Jupiter Freaks Out and Almost no one notices!

[Maia Gabrial]

Wow! What do you think is going on with Jupiter?

VMsASsuuza8

[Sunny-side-up]

Earth atmospherics maybe?
It looked like some kind of lensing.
Something between Jupiter and Earth, would need images taken from above the Earth atmosphere to work this out!

[sirdipswitch]

I notice. Been noticing strange stuff for more than two years now. Anyone notice how far North the Sun is setting... already, and it ain't even the end of April yet. hmm. Has anyone noticed how high in the night sky the North Star is, or how high in the sky the Sun is???? more, hmm. Can you say Earth tilt??? hmm. ccc.

[sirdipswitch]

Great vid, and good thing sh had her camera pointed at it when it accured. Off hand I would venture a guess that it must be a bit more than atmosphere or lense flare since being observed by two people in different locations.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Cradle of Saturn, by James P. Hogan

"Among the Saturnian moons, farsighted individuals, working without help or permission from any government, have established a colony. They call themselves the Kronians, after the Greek name for Saturn. Operating without the hidebound restrictions of bureaucratic Earth, the colony is a magnet, attracting the best and brightest of the home world, and has been making important new discoveries. But one of their claims -- that they have found proof that the Solar System has undergone repeated cataclysms, and as recently as a few thousand years ago -- flies in the face of the reigning dogma, and is under attack by the scientific establishment.

Then the planet Jupiter emits a white-hot protoplanet as large as the Earth, which is hurtling sunwards like a gigantic comet that will obliterate civilization."


"the watchers of Time" the watchers of Kronos


those who Know


p.s. can the recent solar flares cause trouble w/ ability to see out?

[Ammit]

It looked almost like light bursts from explosions on the planet. I suppose we will never know what effect a nuclear or energy explosion would look like from millions of miles away to compare such an effect.

[AutumnW]

I notice. Been noticing strange stuff for more than two years now. Anyone notice how far North the Sun is setting... already, and it ain't even the end of April yet. hmm. Has anyone noticed how high in the night sky the North Star is, or how high in the sky the Sun is???? more, hmm. Can you say Earth tilt??? hmm. ccc.

How freaking strange! I woke up thinking this. The earth is tilting slowly on its axis. Would that explain why the North Polar regions are heating up while just South we are experiencing colder temps, in many areas? This might be a bizarre thought. Surely to God, if the Earth was tilting more, astronomers would pick up on it.

[spiritguide]

Observing the solar system as one electro magnetic system such as a planet we can observe magnetic shifts transpiring. Looking at it from the point of view of the solar system as an atom, the sun being the nucleus and the planets being the electrons when magnetic shift occurs in the nucleus the valence of the entire atom shifts also. Changes in the sun and planets is being reported constantly, physically and magnetically more so lately with the sun's pole shift. To me this is not a mystery, just repeating cycles. Just universal law unfolding as it should, we are fortunate to be able to observe it. IMHO

Peace!

[sheme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FPcYPXfwE

Well this is interesting.:eek:

[Frank V]

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p.s. can the recent solar flares cause trouble w/ ability to see out?



Yes, in a way they can. Both the kinetic impact of the plasma jets on the atmosphere and their glowing hot temperatures can cause atmospheric lensing effects, not to mention very dramatic climatic effects.

Don't tell the "carbon dioxide emissions cause global warming" posse, though, because they would be very cross with you for showing common sense against their arrogant vantage that the human species has total control of the planet, not to mention that you would be making a valid case against their precious new laws on carbon taxing, carbon capping and carbon trading. In the Church of the Mammon, that would be blasphemy! :p

Namaste. :-)

[Frank V]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FPcYPXfwE

Well this is interesting.:eek:

Interesting, yes, but most likely deliberate misinformation, or a hoax at best. The grammar of that text is often so wrong that the sentences don't make any sense at all. You can tell that it has been edited with copy and paste, and they didn't even do a good job at that.

In addition to the above, I also have a red warning light going off automatically whenever a message like this one is being presented by a computerized voice. ;-)

[Atlas]

Exchange between an amateur astronomer and the guy who shot the video:

Rick Brown:

Hi cdbfort -- I'm an amateur astronomer who has observed Jupiter many times through many telescopes over the past 45 years. What you're seeing is the effect of turbulence in the earth's atmosphere, which causes this kind of "wiggly, wobbly" appearance. It's familiar to all astronomers (amateur and professional alike). The case you're showing is pronounced, but certainly not unprecedented. It's more pronounced when looking at very small objects (like Jupiter) and when the objects are low in the sky (as was the case in Auckland on that evening) and when the weather is warm (which was also the case, according to weather reports). Turbulence causes the atmosphere's density to change quickly on very small scales, which creates an optical effect not unlike looking at something in water when the surface is very wavy and ripply. Hope this clears up the mystery for you.

cdbfort:

Hi RIck, thank you for you great detailed explanation.. Yes it was warm that evening... even at 1010, and yes Jupiter was low to the horizon, well, relatively so, just above the moon to the right at that time of night. And since I have no logical explanation as to what is going on in the video, I am certainly not in a position to argue facts that are being presented.... so again thanks. I do have a Meade 6inch telescope, and have enjoyed viewing Jupiter for many hours... ( as distant as it is), and sighted clearly Saturn's beautiful rings.... the delight of viewing space is always on my mind. Thanks. Cheers and Peace.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

you guys ever notice on a real clear night w/ some disturbance, the stars look smaller but brighter and 'flicker' real fast?

i've wondered if Haarp stuff caused changes in flicker rate etc cause it raises and lowers the threshold of the atmospheric boundary

[Atlas]

Can you say Earth tilt???

The earth is tilting slowly on its axis.

"The axis tilt is measured every day to very high precision, this by default any time someone uses a telescope to track the stars. The motorized mounts of the telescopes, whether they be relatively cheap manually operated scopes to the multi-million dollar behemoths at such places as Cerro Tololo and Mauna Kea, all require precise knowledge of the axial tilt of the Earth and the latitude of the telescope on the planet. If the axis changes by even a small fraction of a degree, these precise instruments would notice this change very quickly by their failure to properly track the objects they are pointed at. Even an amateur astronomer with a modest telescope could detect such a change.

In an endeavor to demonstrate how easy it is to notice this alleged change I have produced a video to show in a graphic fashion why such an axial tilt change cannot go unnoticed: Earth's Axis Tilting at Windmills (http://www.skywise711.com/Skeptic/Axis/axis.html)"

[Frank V]

you guys ever notice on a real clear night w/ some disturbance, the stars look smaller but brighter and 'flicker' real fast?

i've wondered if Haarp stuff caused changes in flicker rate etc cause it raises and lowers the threshold of the atmospheric boundary

Well Tes, the phenomenon you describe would still very likely be the result of normal atmospheric lensing, but you raise a very interesting and intelligent point. There is a lot that HAARP can do and that people aren't even aware of.

You're wording it as "raising and lowering the threshold of the atmospheric boundary", which is exactly one of the things HAARP does, and the idio... um, I mean, the scientists playing with HAARP have already demonstrated this a few years ago, by punching a temporary hole in the ionosphere and pushing the exosphere farther out into space.

I don't exactly remember why they were doing that, but what I do know is that this kind of "games" can have devastating effects on Earth's climate, and especially locally. Now, I'm not going to claim that this was the cause of North America's very harsh winter this year, but this is exactly the kind of result that you could expect from such usage of HAARP.

Again, I'm not trying to get people to put on their tin foil beanies about this matter, but from the scientific point of view, it makes perfect sense that HAARP could have been responsible for the past harsh winter in North America. But then again, by the same token, it could also just as easily have been the result of solar flares. They too can do that sort of thing, and there have indeed been a couple of serious coronal mass ejections over the couple of months from the end of last year and the beginning of spring in the northern hemisphere.

[Fairy Friend]

I had the same phenomena happened to me when I was trying to film the Eclipse. I had things set on the deck and people and pets were running around and I was picking up vibrations. It literally had snowed 2 hours before the lunar eclipse started and we had a sudden shift in weather. The skies cleared for the lunar eclipse but you can clearly see disturbance in the atmosphere. Most of my photography session was a bust that night.

I love the title of this post.

[sirdipswitch]

Can you say Earth tilt???

The earth is tilting slowly on its axis.

"The axis tilt is measured every day to very high precision, this by default any time someone uses a telescope to track the stars. The motorized mounts of the telescopes, whether they be relatively cheap manually operated scopes to the multi-million dollar behemoths at such places as Cerro Tololo and Mauna Kea, all require precise knowledge of the axial tilt of the Earth and the latitude of the telescope on the planet. If the axis changes by even a small fraction of a degree, these precise instruments would notice this change very quickly by their failure to properly track the objects they are pointed at. Even an amateur astronomer with a modest telescope could detect such a change.

In an endeavor to demonstrate how easy it is to notice this alleged change I have produced a video to show in a graphic fashion why such an axial tilt change cannot go unnoticed: Earth's Axis Tilting at Windmills (http://www.skywise711.com/Skeptic/Axis/axis.html)"

I went to the website you provided the link for and thank you. However, this brings us to, "connect the DOTS" time. Yep, surely does. Just as quickly as you can say betchersweetbippy. chuckle chuckle. You see I been out watchin stars ever night takin my dog out to go "do her thing". While out there is a perfct time to watch stars and other bright lights dancin around the skies. I know where to look every night for the North Star. Two years ago... it changed. I now must look much "higher" in the sky than before. MUCH higher. Two years is about how long it takes most to suddenly wake up and say; "Gee, is the Sun higher? Is the Norh Star higher?" Why would an artical such as this even be written??? Unless enough are making suggestions that it is so??? WHY are people starting to mention this. WHY, would it even need a disclaimer?? Is there a vast "GAG" order in place?? Maybe ammetures are noticing and is the reason for the disclaimer? Would they tell us?

I have an idea that I have thought of that would solve this riddle. Does anyone on PA, have anyone they know, or know someone who knows, of an "Old Fisherman", that still nows how to "steer by the stars" and use a "Sextant", instead of GPS???
Any ol Fisherman could tell ya where the North Star is sposed ta be... and if has moved. yep surely could. PLUS, we could trust them, a whole bunch more than the "Official" version. yep, could. ccc.:wizard:

[ghostrider]

okay , here goes , Jupiter is being terra-formed in case Earth is destroyed ... a moon also is being taken there by the EMV's ... there are plenty of NASA photos and photos taken by others available to see , of course some will try and explain away anomalies but , they can never hide what right in your face , all they can do is re-enforce their comfort zone so they sleep easy , folks earth has come to an apex ... the terra-forming of Jupiter began five years ago ... remember the large circular object seen near the sun , then pulling away ??? here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTbksd5-Rdg they were making metal , Armeton , used for terra-forming planets , there is bio-organic energy rods/spheres seen in space and on earth , they follow designed plans for making new systems habitable for sentient life to survive and grow ... a spokesman for the project lives on EARTH , he lives in FT. worth texas ...he has protected earth on many occasion , the strange explosions seen in Ft. Worth , with no sound , seen while the evening news was broadcasting , here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYCHBI66izs at least 8 EBE craft were where they should not have been , our friend pulled over and took care of them quickly , he said they couldn't run away fast enough . a treaty was violated , there was a price ... this is the tip of the iceberg ... I refrain for anymore , as people are not yet ready for paradigm changing reality ...

[Maia Gabrial]

Earth atmospherics maybe?
It looked like some kind of lensing.
Something between Jupiter and Earth, would need images taken from above the Earth atmosphere to work this out!

So, why aren't the other planets doing the same thing? The moon?

[Fairy Friend]

I will try to show a picture of mine if I can. Oops let me try again.it won't seem to save the one where I have the moon and Jupiter together.

[DeDukshyn]

Earth atmospherics maybe?
It looked like some kind of lensing.
Something between Jupiter and Earth, would need images taken from above the Earth atmosphere to work this out!

So, why aren't the other planets doing the same thing? The moon?

The other planets do as well, but the fainter the light the stronger the influence of the effect. The moon is too big and bright to be affected in the same way, unless you zoom in really close with an extremely high powered scope, then you would see the moonscape warp and flow and wobble -- If you check youtube for some such videos you can often see this effect. Stars twinkle due to atmospheric effects, and planets can as well. The strength of the effect is dependant on many factors, some nights, nary a twinkle, others strong effects that we can observe in the video.

I have a telescope and have witnessed this effect first hand and I do believe the "Jupiter incident" is easily explained by strong atmospheric effects. Perhaps abnormally strong?

I thought it looked like Saturn (thought I saw a hint of ring - Jupiter's are too faint to see)

My 2 cents ;)

[ghostrider]

The lady that did a video on Jupiter , does it all the time with the same camera and telescope and has never seen it do what it did ... also at the beginning Jupiter was fine , then out of nowhere it morphs ... I have heard the mountains of Colorado were formed in minutes ... in our universe are many anomalies that science has yet to work out , it's not magic , it is science , we just don't understand YET ... If I may be so bold , someone here on the forum in another life time could have made the blueprints for terra-forming planets millions of years ago ...

[amor]

Team up this post with "The Lie Nasa Told and the demise of the New World Order," on Projectavalon.net, see if the dates on each video match. If both stories are TRUE, then possibly the violence purportedly done in the destruction of Uranus and Neptune caused violent wave action to the body we see as Jupiter which exists as a confluence of wave forms in the zero field, resulting in the jirations this viewer observed happening to Jupiter. I asked a local astronomer to see whether Uranus was still visible to him where it should be at this time. He called back 24 hours later saying he could not find it in the night sky. We need input from some good amateur astronomers to put these anomalies to rest. Amor

[Azt]

Who is next on the line?

Here is the planets order:

The Sun

Mercury

Venus

Earth

Mars

Jupiter

Saturn

Uranus

Neptune


So, probably we need to pay attention on Mars or Saturn (depends of the ascendent descendent orders)

[Ahnung-quay]

I live in a town in Wisconsin that was planned for the main street to be oriented due north-south. My street goes east-west across the main street. This is the house that I grew up in. Also, been tracking the sun rises for the past several years and yes, the sun is rising higher in the sky than it used to. By June 21st, it is more than 1/3 of the way up the arc of the horizon. Later in the summer, it is past the direct overhead east-west point. The sun never shown on the north side of this house when I was a kid, fifty-odd years ago but, it does now. In Wisconsin, the sun should never appear to be that far north in the sky if our tropics were still at 23 degrees either side of the equator.

[Frank V]

Earth atmospherics maybe?
It looked like some kind of lensing.
Something between Jupiter and Earth, would need images taken from above the Earth atmosphere to work this out!

So, why aren't the other planets doing the same thing? The moon?

Because it's a very localized phenomenon. In addition to that, the effect is more noticeable with smaller celestial bodies, and of course, especially if the picture is enlarged to the same degree as in the video from the original post in this thread.

[Frank V]

okay , here goes , Jupiter is being terra-formed in case Earth is destroyed ... [...]

Um, how would you terraform a gas giant? Apart from its metal core, the rest of the planet is made up of gas only. And then we're not even talking of its mass, which is 2.5x the mass of all other planets in this solar system combined. Gravity would instantly crush any human setting foot on that metal core - again: the rest of the planet is made up of gas, so Jupiter itself doesn't have a surface to stand on like the four rocky planets do.

Now, if you were talking of the moons of Jupiter (or Saturn for that matter), then that's a whole other can of worms... ;-)

[sheme]

I can remember looking at the night sky (letting the dogs out for a poop) looking at the sky SE I saw the most amazing transformation that lasted seconds -normal looking star seemed to go huge and greeny blue, never found any reference to it, I looked for explanations, it was just weird. So I know stuff happens.

[Maia Gabrial]

The lady that did a video on Jupiter , does it all the time with the same camera and telescope and has never seen it do what it did ... also at the beginning Jupiter was fine , then out of nowhere it morphs ... I have heard the mountains of Colorado were formed in minutes ... in our universe are many anomalies that science has yet to work out , it's not magic , it is science , we just don't understand YET ... If I may be so bold , someone here on the forum in another life time could have made the blueprints for terra-forming planets millions of years ago ...

That's what I'm saying, too, ghostrider. She has done this for a long time and never saw this happen before.

And I appreciated everyone's honest opinions on this.