Russia warns that it will dump US Treasuries (Open financial war seems imminent)

[ThePythonicCow]

From Furious Russia, Downgraded To Just Above Junk By S&P, Proposes "Scorched Earth" Retaliation Against NATO Countries (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-25/furious-russia-downgraded-just-above-junk-sp-proposes-scorched-earth-retaliation-aga):

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But far more importantly, and ahead of yet another round of western sanctions which appears imminent unless Obama is to look even more powerless than he currently is (granted, a difficult achievement), Russian presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev proposed plan of 15 measures to protect country’s economy if sanctions applied, Vedomosti newspaper reports, citing Glazyev’s letter to Finance Ministry. According to Vedomosti as Bloomberg reported, Glazyev proposed:

Russia should withdraw all assets, accounts in dollars, euros from NATO countries to neutral ones
Russia should start selling NATO member sovereign bonds before Russia’s foreign-currency accounts are frozen
Central bank should reduce dollar assets, sell sovereign bonds of countries that support sanctions
Russia should limit commercial banks’ FX assets to prevent speculation on ruble, capital outflows
Central bank should increase money supply so that state cos., banks may refinance foreign loans
Russia should use national currencies in trade with customs Union members, other non-dollar, non-euro partners

In other words, a full-blown scorched earth campaign by Russia.

Granted, Russian holdings of US Treasurys are not that substantial (and could be monetized entirely in three months of POMO by the Fed), and western financial linkages to Russia, aside from trade routes, are not life-threatening, but if Russia were to take the baton, and other BRIC countries, already furious by the recent US decision to not boost their IMF status, follow suit, then Obama's life is about to become a living nightmare. Especially, if that most important BRIC member - China - does any of the many things it can do to indicate if, in this brand new Cold War, it is with or against the US...
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There's more at the above ZeroHedge link.

We are engaged in a global economic/monetary/financial war, and all signs indicate this war is about to get hot.

If ethnic Russians continue to be killed in the Ukraine, prompting Russia's promised response (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russias-foreign-minister-vows-response-if-citizens-attacked-in-ukraine/) (which US Sec of State will no doubt label an invasion of the most dastardly sort), then the sanctions that would prompt a Russian response such as those above would seem all but certain.

Moreover, just such continued provocation of Russia, the killing of ethnic Russians in the Ukraine (with the US blaming the violence on Russia!) seems almost certain as well.

The writing is on the wall. The US Petro Dollar's reign is coming to an end.

[ThePythonicCow]

Meanwhile Russia is gathering troops on its border with the Ukraine, perhaps in anticipation of the above events.

From That’s a lot of Russian Armor Moving around the Ukraine Border (JohnGaltFla.com) (http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2014/04/24/04-24-14-thats-a-lot-of-russian-armor-moving-around-the-ukraine-border/):

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/RUSSIAN_TROOP_MOVEMENTS_042414.jpg
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From Full Mobilization: Either Russia Is Positioning Troops for a Massive Offensive… Or This Is The Most Expensive Military Exercise in World History (SHTFplan.com) (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/full-mobilization-either-russia-is-positioning-troops-for-a-massive-offensive-or-this-is-the-most-expensive-military-exercise-in-world-history_04252014):




If you’re paying attention to geo-political and economic affairs at the moment, then you cant’ ignore the gathering storm clouds in Europe.

No one at the White House will officially admit it, but we may well be sitting on the cusp of a widespread conflagration. To suggest otherwise is simply naive. The chess game is, without a doubt, in full swing.

[Maia Gabrial]

The harder Obama tries to hurt Russia or get back at Putin for being a better man than him,the worse he looks. But all his nonsense is going to hurt all of us in the long run.
Obama is a walking joke and not even a funny one anymore.... That's why he has so many hecklers booing him offstage...

[Craig]

I won't say woohoo, but struth it is going to exciting. I wonder if this will wake up some more sleeping minds?

[Maia Gabrial]

We, Americans are the ones who will suffer in this. :tsk: Obama and his cronies need to be the ones to suffer the consequences of their own actions.

[Heartsong]

Paul,
Thank you for the post. Can you/ would you give us a idea of the impact of this on the day-to-day lives of ordinary people?

[T Smith]

Especially, if that most important BRIC member - China - does any of the many things it can do to indicate if, in this brand new Cold War, it is with or against the US...

I think this all depends on China whether or not Russia's actions can be contained or not.

It's a huge question mark for me. If Russia follows through, I have no idea how China will judge its immediate interests, which will obviously determine how it will respond. In my estimation, they certainly will be in a position to decide whether to deliver the final blow to a staggering U.S. dollar or not. One would think China could easily provide the KO punch if Russia follows through with this. But will they? That is the million dollar question.

My hunch is the Chinese are very measured and deliberate and have a specific game plan already laid out, so the real question is whether now is the right time from them to bring down the dollar, or whether it serves their interests better to allow the the dollar to languish on for just a little bit longer... Questions such as the following occur to me as possible variables: does China have enough tones of gold in its national coffers to deliver the KO punch now? Have they already reached their gold target they undoubtedly have established for the express purpose to achieve this end? Can their economy survive (or combat and contain) the effects of the soaring price of oil? This is certainly a tactic the U.S. will likely wage in retaliation. Interesting on that front is the spike up in the price of oil in just the last couple weeks. This may be a warning shot across the bow to China signaling they would be ill-advised to try something "imprudent" as Russia plays its own cards. Of course if conditions are such that the price of oil untethers itself from the dollar altogether, that trump card the U.S is holding would be mute.

[spiritguide]

The government does not represent the will of my country any longer and the need for true justice is at hand lest we loose all the safeguards of the U.S. Constitution. Transition to a better Republic is upon the Valor of the people to stand up against tyrrany and corruption. The time to protect your rights is now, and to deny this means certain evil will enter the room. IMHO

Peace!

[T Smith]

Paul,
Thank you for the post. Can you/ would you give us a idea of the impact of this on the day-to-day lives of ordinary people?

Well, for one, gas prices will likely spike way up. $5 - $6 a gallon even? This will hurt China the most (which is likely the goal) plus be a public relations gem for those pushing the WWIII narrative they've thus far had trouble selling. Specifically, the propaganda ministers in the U.S. would likely pin the drastic upswing in the price of oil on Russia and Iran (and Syria by proxy), and when the people can no longer afford to eat and take to the streets they will practically demand for a war to stop these evil oil producing countries waging economic war against the U.S. (Of course this is all engineered by the U.S., for reasons above)

This is all dependent on whether the U.S.-backed power structure remains in control of manipulating the price of assets pegged to the dollar, e.g. oil and gold. If they lose control of this, as some have speculated, a whole host things would effect your every day life, such as a stock market crash, bursting housing bubble (if you have a mortgage you had better hope you can still make the payment), and soaring prices on everyday necessities.

Gee, I wish it wasn't such a bleak assessment. But I'm just an everyday bloke. The good news is I could be very wrong.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul,
Thank you for the post. Can you/ would you give us a idea of the impact of this on the day-to-day lives of ordinary people?

My guess is that the most immediate and obvious effects will be increased prices of imports, including much of our food, energy and stuff, and all that depends on that energy, such as farming, manufacturing (what little we have left) and transportation.

The price increases will not be a single event, but spread over time, though not always gently.

At some point in the process, savings, retirement funds, pension checks, social benefits (Medicare, Social Security, ...) and any other dependency on wealth or income that is held by or dispensed by institutions or via banks and denominated in US Dollars, will lose value, in some cases totally. This too will be spread over time, though not always gently.

Americans are going to have to learn to live within their means; though IMF calls for austerity are never calls to put the debtors house in order, but rather calls to steal what remains in that house.

Americans are going to have to face up to some difficult truths, and get rid of a government and corporate over lord that has gone bad.

Some have already chosen to leave ... though I'm not sure that any place will have it easy. Some such as myself have chosen to stay.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I won't say woohoo, but struth it is going to exciting. I wonder if this will wake up some more sleeping minds?

Bring it on, I say :).

Though it seems, at least for now, that we're still frogs sitting in water that's only slowly getting warmer ... and warmer ... and ...

[ThePythonicCow]

We, Americans are the ones who will suffer in this. :tsk: Obama and his cronies need to be the ones to suffer the consequences of their own actions.

Many, around the world, have already suffered, for many decades, even centuries, at the hands of this empire in crisis.

A few (quite a few) Americans, such as on the ground in the military, have already joined in that suffering. A few more Americans died on 9/11. Many more Americans have already suffered at the hands of justice, food, water, and healthcare turned toxic.

Many more will join, in one way or another.

Our greatest focus must be on how to live our own lives and organize our affairs in a more aware, honest and caring manner and how to share that with others. This very much includes being more aware of the evils about us, but the better to avoid or resist them and to heal the damage, rather than for vengeance.

The evils probably go far deeper than Obama and his immediate cronies know.

[ThePythonicCow]

I think this all depends on China whether or not Russia's actions can be contained or not.
The pace of events in the near future may well depend substantially on China, yes.

Unless, that is, both China and Russia are (as I sometimes suspect) controlled by the same bastards that control the Anglo-American empire. In which case, those bastards will be doing the best they can to see that they remain in control of events, near and distant.

[ThePythonicCow]

The other possible way that an immediate crisis is avoided is if Putin continues to show the remarkable constraint he has shown so far.

This is spelled out in some detail in Mike Whitney's article Is Putin Being Lured Into a Trap? (http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/).

Imagine a major sports contest such as (for Americans) the Super Bowl of (odd-shaped) Football, or the World Series of Baseball. Imagine that there are no direct fans observing from the statium, rather only viewers on television. Imagine that the major "American" media broadcasting the event are totally one-sided in their bias for one of the teams over the other. Imagine that the "bad" team is to be painted as thugs, bullies, and worse. Imagine that the "good" team on the field is resorting to every underhanded trick in the book, and some that aren't (too highly classified perhaps) in order to get the "bad" team to react. Sooner or later, some camera will catch one of the "bad" guys reacting in some way that, in the right camera angle (with perhaps a little video editing and plain old lying) can be presented as evidence of how thuggish the "bad" guys are.

The bastards in Washington are spoiling for a fight. Putin is one tough nut if ever there was one. Jack Bauer of the old TV show "24" would be impressed. But the provocations would seem to continue without end until escalations are forced.

[Davidallany]

Unless, that is, both China and Russia are (as I sometimes suspect) controlled by the same bastards that control the Anglo-American empireI am afraid that I too suspect the same thing as you do Paul. I highly doubt that the ruling blood line families, if they exist, could have neglected to buy China and Russia a long time ago. If that is true then this whole thing is just another game of distraction and control, which wouldn't surprise me, and I think, you, at all.
The amounts of lies,withholding truth and faking events are just staggering. And they are meant to be that way, to give people an extra dose of ignorance and sleep.

[ThePythonicCow]

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From Russia's RT.com Sophie Shevardnadze (SS) interview of Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov (SL) (http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/154364-lavrov-ukraine-standoff-sophieco/):

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Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov
SS: You’ve also said many times that Russia has no intention of moving its troops inside Ukraine, and just recently, Dmitry Peskov, the Russian president’s press-secretary confirmed that there is a military contingent that is reinforced on the Russian-Ukrainian border; There must be a worst-case scenario in which this contingent will be used?

SL: If we are attacked, we would certainly respond. If our interests, our legitimate interests, the interests of Russians have been attacked directly, like they were in South Ossetia for example, I do not see any other way but to respond in full accordance with international law. Russian citizens being attacked is an attack against the Russian Federation.
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Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov is a powerful and competent official of the Russian government. When he draws a line in the sand (unlike when Obama or Kerry do so for the US), I have to figure there's a good chance he means it, and that he speaks for Putin as well.

I've been surprised before on such matters (more often than not, actually), but I'll be danged if I can see how this doesn't avoid escalating substantially and soon.

[Hervé]

Left-field info from that other Texas guy:


[...]

As I stated in the first posting of this Thread and since then I have had several people that I knew personally go missing from the Banking/Finance and Military Intelligence and Private Sector "Corporate Security" fields.

[...]

WW III Is in full swing... BRICS vs CABAL
- Computer Viruses that will crash the IMF/FRB System at a given point planted by BRICS Allies using the same "Method" the CVirus was delivered to IRAN's Nuclear Systems are in place ready to be activated once the BRICS Central Bank, Currency are in place. CHECK MATE TO PETRO $

[...]

[skippy]

Following an interesting documentary with the title: "The day the dollar falls", Roel van Broekhoven, VPRO Tegenlicht, 2005.

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[Camilo]

This is easier said than done. I think Russia is bluffing and doesn't have what it takes to carry on its threats. Putin is way over his head on this one.

[ThePythonicCow]

Unless, that is, both China and Russia are (as I sometimes suspect) controlled by the same bastards that control the Anglo-American empireI am afraid that I too suspect the same thing as you do Paul. I highly doubt that the ruling blood line families, if they exist, could have neglected to buy China and Russia a long time ago.
As a long standing goldbug, one bit of evidence that I personally find quite compelling for the case that Russia and China are pwned (owned by the bastards) is the transfer of large amounts of gold to China.

No one imports 10,000 tons of gold on this planet without the consent of the bastards currently in power. The Western powers are not only not resisting this transfer to China; they have been facilitating it with substantial and sustained effort for several years now.

I remain convinced (unlike most goldbugs) that it will be a cold day in hell before anything like a gold based monetary system becomes dominant again. Debt based monetary systems, lending to and thereby controlling, all individuals, corporations and governments of any consequence, are much preferred by said bastards.

The gold to China means no more than the gold previously "sent" to Saudi Arabia ... roughly like bribing a child with candy ... before kidnapping them for nefarious purposes.

China will be under great stress, once the world economy collapses and their customer base can no longer afford Chinese exports. Their massive malinvestment in empty cities, empty condos and soon to be empty factories, combined with a massive population of young adult males (greatly outnumbering females of similar age) will make political control of China very challenging.

I know only one, small, group of "humans" on this planet who will take pleasure in such challenges.

(Similarly, Russia's economy, depending on exports of energy to Europe and China, will find their otherwise sparse economic base, and even more sparse and quite aging population base, insufficient to support their current power once their energy exports diminish.)

... but I digress.

[Atlas]

Open financial war seems imminent

Something quite similar was said just before the Wall Street Crash of 1929 which began in late October 1929:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/worldfwar1929.jpg
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylvania/altoona/altoona-mirror/1929/06-20/page-17

[Eram]

Following an interesting documentary with the title: "The day the dollar falls", Roel van Broekhoven, VPRO Tegenlicht, 2005.


Cool that you somehow spotted "tegenlicht" skippy.
My nephew is one of it's makers and I think it's one of the best tv shows in the Netherlands. :thumb:

[ghostrider]

If the dollar is no longer the world reserve currency , overnight the price of things will double and your dollar will be worth half ... paying more with less , hell I'm doing that now ... and there is a new currency law going into effect in July this year ...

[skippy]

Following an interesting documentary with the title: "The day the dollar falls", Roel van Broekhoven, VPRO Tegenlicht, 2005.


Cool that you somehow spotted "tegenlicht" skippy.
My nephew is one of it's makers and I think it's one of the best tv shows in the Netherlands. :thumb:

Yeah, I watched the documentary again today after its first broadcast in 2005 (before the subprime crisis) and indeed it is very good. While watching the documentary, I came to the conclusion that Russia alone is not enough to create an open international financial war/crisis. When China joins in ok, but China has no interest in a collapsing American economy. It's my guess that Putin will mellow down quickly to restore business as usual. At this moment, nobody is in for a 3rd world war.

[Octavusprime]

It's my belief that China will play both sides for awhile. The writing is on the wall that the end of the petro dollar is near but China does not want to implode the system because it's economy is so closely linked to the US economy. More likely China will slowly start trading more and more in other currencies while it weens itself off the dollar. If Russia drops the dollar, it will rely on China and other BRICS nations to continue trades. Essentially Russia will create a "black market" that will slowly become more enticing to other nations that are tired of the unjust US controlled market.

The jig is up and it will likely be a bumpy ride.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Blue Dude popped in out of the blue today, we have visiters that haven't been to this planet in thousands of years...

very tense time, but leaders will be held back from extreme war, they don't consider bullets extreme...

just a bunch of kids playing in the sand box...

they are very upset about Fukushima and how those in power have done nothing to contain it, they know the technologies that are available to man, and there is no excuse...

I read a fear from him when he mentioned these visitors, not sure if they are his bosses, but if they stepped in, things are getting serious...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

America, You are the dump that I take every morning.

~putin

[Rocky_Shorz]

Blue Dude popped in out of the blue today, we have visiters that haven't been to this planet in thousands of years...

very tense time, but leaders will be held back from extreme war, they don't consider bullets extreme...

just a bunch of kids playing in the sand box...

they are very upset about Fukushima and how those in power have done nothing to contain it, they know the technologies that are available to man, and there is no excuse...

I read a fear from him when he mentioned these visitors, not sure if they are his bosses, but if they stepped in, things are getting serious...

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this came up in a totally unrelated search, but makes me wonder if these are the ones "Blue Dude's "visitors" are furious at?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbsjeVoJe6s&feature=player_detailpage

[ThePythonicCow]

It's my belief that China will play both sides for awhile. The writing is on the wall that the end of the petro dollar is near but China does not want to implode the system because it's economy is so closely linked to the US economy. More likely China will slowly start trading more and more in other currencies while it weens itself off the dollar. If Russia drops the dollar, it will rely on China and other BRICS nations to continue trades. Essentially Russia will create a "black market" that will slowly become more enticing to other nations that are tired of the unjust US controlled market.

The jig is up and it will likely be a bumpy ride.

Yes - that is key for China and the other BRICS nations: whether they get another economic, monetary and financial system at least minimally functioning, before the US Dollar collapses back down from being the currency of world trade, contract and lending, to being once again just another national currency.

This collapse of the US Dollar will be a triple whammy on China - decimating its hoard of US Treasuries, impoverishing its best customer, and throwing a monkey wrench into the current Dollar based world financial system.

If China cannot get alternatives up and running first, then its current leadership risks being on the wrong end of another bloody revolution from its nearly 1 billion working age people, with some 30 million more young men than young women (using figures from here (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/14/opinion/china-challenges-one-child-brooks/) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China)).

National leaderships typically do their best to avoid being on the wrong end of bloody revolutions.

[aheb]

Well the US is pushing Russia to dump the dollar by excluding her from international trade. So it seems a bit strange the big guys in US are not aware of the consequences of such an action, but maybe they are aware
Jim Rickard the author of currency wars was asked by the CIA to show how the US could be attacked financially by China.......so they must know this is on the cards. also the US uses people who make predictive models based on Chaos mathamatics

check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_eFjLZqXt8

I think this is all planned in some way, it's just how that I don't know

[Snoweagle]

So where are the Israeli diplomats now? Have they returned to duties yet?

Basing post conflict predictions on pre-conflict speculations is absurd regardless of the markets. Whatever financial models exist this side of the conflict may not resemble those afterwards. None of them give a golden ****e about cost as they have promises and presses.
However this is going to play out, one thing is certain, the EU and US will change; regardless of whether the same could be said for Russia and China and so will the markets with those trade agreements.

Here's an Avalon "put" option:
The EU, US and Russia each have oligarchy's of Semite ancestry. (idle thought here: black salve can draw a cancer from the body).
China teams Russia to take the Allies, the EU stage kicks off, then in Asia. Regular warfare first. China has to over commit.
Russia secretly peace deals the Allies, now these turn on China.

This is more like the model those wheeling dealing sons o bitches would do. There would be extermination, slaughter and genocide throughout by all parties and there will NOT be a war crimes tribunal afterwards. Only the official story.

Furthermore, whatever the markets are going to do, after decades of planning - HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. The post war model already exists: no, I don't know what it is nor gonna be.

The weaponry exists to depopulate already. Would be over in weeks. Wait six months, back to normal again.

Our influence exists now.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Russian Intelligence Ship Operating off U.S. East Coast: Pentagon


A Russian intelligence-gathering ship has been operating off the U.S. East Coast and near the Gulf of Mexico for the past month, the Pentagon said Thursday.

“We are aware that the Russian ships Viktor Leonov and Nikolay Chiker are currently operating in waters that are beyond U.S. territorial seas but near Cuba,” said Lt. Col. Tom Crosson, a Pentagon spokesman. “We respect the freedom of all nations, as reflected in international law, to operate military vessels beyond the territorial seas of other nations.” link (http://lincaustin.com/2014/04/26/russian-intelligence-ship-operating-off-u-s-east-coast-pentagon/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LincAustin+%28Linc+Austin%29#)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90HzRj4yUw

This ship we call earth is in for a rough ride, but like these boats, we won't sink easy...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8A5IMkW-Kg

[ThePythonicCow]

Yes - that is key for China and the other BRICS nations: whether they get another economic, monetary and financial system at least minimally functioning, before the US Dollar collapses back down from being the currency of world trade, contract and lending, to being once again just another national currency.


Well the US is pushing Russia to dump the dollar by excluding her from international trade. So it seems a bit strange the big guys in US are not aware of the consequences of such an action, but maybe they are aware

Hmm .. perhaps the US Gangsters figure that the Chinese aren't ready to go live with their alternative systems, so the US is pushing to take down Russia and China with them.

If the US went sufficiently slowly, then the BRICS nations could "pick up the slack", putting alternative financial arrangements in place and maintaining some semblance of national stability. But if the demolition specialists can blow things up faster than the alternatives can be put in place, then all hell breaks loose, and the Satanic have the upper hand.

[ThePythonicCow]

China will be under great stress, once the world economy collapses and their customer base can no longer afford Chinese exports. Their massive malinvestment in empty cities, empty condos and soon to be empty factories, combined with a massive population of young adult males (greatly outnumbering females of similar age) will make political control of China very challenging.
It is not just China that has a surplus of males.

From WorldlifeExpectancy.com (http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/news/boys-without-girls):

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INDIA HAS LOST 50,000,000 BRIDES:

...
One survey of Indian abortion clinics found that as many as 7,999 out of 8,000 aborted babies were little girls.

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The above 50 million figure for India exceeds the 30 million figure I read earlier today for China.

[TrumanCash]

The other possible way that an immediate crisis is avoided is if Putin continues to show the remarkable constraint he has shown so far.

This is spelled out in some detail in Mike Whitney's article Is Putin Being Lured Into a Trap? (http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/).

Imagine a major sports contest such as (for Americans) the Super Bowl of (odd-shaped) Football, or the World Series of Baseball. Imagine that there are no direct fans observing from the statium, rather only viewers on television. Imagine that the major "American" media broadcasting the event are totally one-sided in their bias for one of the teams over the other. Imagine that the "bad" team is to be painted as thugs, bullies, and worse. Imagine that the "good" team on the field is resorting to every underhanded trick in the book, and some that aren't (too highly classified perhaps) in order to get the "bad" team to react. Sooner or later, some camera will catch one of the "bad" guys reacting in some way that, in the right camera angle (with perhaps a little video editing and plain old lying) can be presented as evidence of how thuggish the "bad" guys are.

The bastards in Washington are spoiling for a fight. Putin is one tough nut if ever there was one. Jack Bauer of the old TV show "24" would be impressed. But the provocations would seem to continue without end until escalations are forced.

In the article you linked to it states: "The US State Department engineered the fascist-backed coup...."

Personally, I don't believe for one minute that Kerry, Obama, et al, engineered much of anything. It is no mystery to me who is really engineering this mess and as far as Earth humans goes it would be the international banksters/Bilderbergers and their henchmen. Obama, Kerry are just stage players acting out their scripts, IMO.

What I am wondering--Is Putin also just one of the actors following the script?

Why isn't Putin exposing the international banksters who are the source of this madness? (not counting the guys upstairs :cantina: )

How could Putin not know who is really writing the script and pulling the strings?

Why doesn't Putin, the Chinese, et al just go capture, arrest or otherwise terminate the international bankers and end this insanity?

Where the hell are Fulford's 10,000 ninjas?!!!!!! :shout:

Instead, Putin keeps playing out the banksters' plans.

Anyway, that's just what I'm a-wonderin'.....

Truman

[ThePythonicCow]

The other possible way that an immediate crisis is avoided is if Putin continues to show the remarkable constraint he has shown so far.

This is spelled out in some detail in Mike Whitney's article Is Putin Being Lured Into a Trap? (http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/).

In the article you linked to it states: "The US State Department engineered the fascist-backed coup...."

Personally, I don't believe for one minute that Kerry, Obama, et al, engineered much of anything. It is no mystery to me who is really engineering this mess and as far as Earth humans goes it would be the international banksters/Bilderbergers and their henchmen. Obama, Kerry are just stage players acting out their scripts, IMO.

What I am wondering--Is Putin also just one of the actors following the script?
Good point about the State Department engineering this ... not much chance :).

As for Putin, sometimes the distinction between an actor, and the role they play, gets blurred.

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So my question of whether Putin continues to play it cool or not might better have been phrased:

Does the script call for open financial war to erupt now?

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I'm figuring the script calls for that now.

However my batting average on such calls is abysmal :).

[gripreaper]

The slow burn scenario, as Catherine Austin Fits, Joseph Farrell, Jim Marrs and certainly others have postulated, makes more sense to me when looking at the scripted demolition of the current paradigm, although I do not to rule out an "event" type overnight collapse scenario should it become necessary to keep the script on its path.

Collapse by stealth, one frog at a time in the warmth of the boiling water, gives the producers of the play more control over the actors, and thus the outcomes, as they steer both sides of the dialectic towards a new synthesis.

They shout imminent collapse, catastrophic events, extraterrestrial threats, bio-engineered viruses, state and national conflicts, and all manner of divisiveness to steer consciousness and keep us in a perpetual state of fear and scarcity, which placates our reactions to a certain degree, until you get a Bundy Ranch reaction. Even these types of reactions are engineered and designed to "blow off" tension so that the slaves fall back into their stupor which gives them the bread and circuses they need to stay entertained and asleep.

The bankster fiat system of commerce is fully entrenched and imbedded globally, and this alleged alliance of BRIC's who are allegedly going against this system, when they surrendered all their gold to this system in exchange for worthless bonds and petrodollars, while the bankster elite took the actual wealth of the planet and developed stellar technology which is purported to be thousands of years ahead of the current mainstream science and technology, are they going to bring their cap guns to a stellar lazer fight?

I don't think so. They are just actors on the opposite side of the dialectic.

[Eram]

The other possible way that an immediate crisis is avoided is if Putin continues to show the remarkable constraint he has shown so far.

This is spelled out in some detail in Mike Whitney's article Is Putin Being Lured Into a Trap? (http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/).

In the article you linked to it states: "The US State Department engineered the fascist-backed coup...."

Personally, I don't believe for one minute that Kerry, Obama, et al, engineered much of anything. It is no mystery to me who is really engineering this mess and as far as Earth humans goes it would be the international banksters/Bilderbergers and their henchmen. Obama, Kerry are just stage players acting out their scripts, IMO.

What I am wondering--Is Putin also just one of the actors following the script?
Good point about the State Department engineering this ... not much chance :).

As for Putin, sometimes the distinction between an actor, and the role they play, gets blurred.

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So my question of whether Putin continues to play it cool or not might better have been phrased:

Does the script call for open financial war to erupt now?

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I'm figuring the script calls for that now.

However my batting average on such calls is abysmal :).

Since RT stance for Russian Television and doesn't hold back in exposing the Western banking schemes, I would argue that the international bankers do not own both parties of a future WWIII yet.

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Maybe (as mentioned in post # 19 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70850-Russia-warns-that-it-will-dump-US-Treasuries--Open-financial-war-seems-imminent-&p=827378&viewfull=1#post827378)), The cabal has shares in major corporations in China and Russia, but when a war brakes out, what is more easy then to just take those shares back with a simple stroke of a pen?

My guess is that the shadow government (Rothshild, Rockefellers, Morgans etc) only own the western nations and their plan for NWO will have to include the braking of China, Russia, Iran and such.
That's the only thing that would make sense to me.

[T Smith]

Why doesn't Putin, the Chinese, et al just go capture, arrest or otherwise terminate the international bankers and end this insanity?

Where the hell are Fulford's 10,000 ninjas?!!!!!! :shout:

Instead, Putin keeps playing out the banksters' plans.

Anyway, that's just what I'm a-wonderin'.....

Truman

Purely speculative answer:

They only sensible explanation to your question would be if Putin (and the Chinese) were also beholden to (or powerless to combat) the very power structure that has hijacked the U.S government. They may not be powerless to engage the U.S. government itself, but rather impotent against the powers backing the U.S. government. These may well be the same powers pulling the strings of its own government. The U.S., Russian, and Chinese governments are largely servants to these powers.

If we consider the possibility that the international banking infestation isn't limited to the U.S. government and has tentacles cast throughout the world, it wouldn't be a stretch to envisage its power structure pitting its top lap dogs against each other (perhaps even unbeknownst to themselves), in a survival-of-the-fittest kind of way, with the promise of granting one world rule to the victor. Consolidating pockets of power on the planet only behoves its interests, lest one or another rogue government (one perhaps truly representative of the human people) become too powerful and eventually challenge the ruling order of things. In such case, may the strongest and most cunning band of human rulers seize and rule the world. May the power structure then reinforce its strings.

[ThePythonicCow]

Since RT stance for Russian Television and doesn't hold back in exposing the Western banking schemes, I would argue that the international bankers do not own both parties of a future WWIII yet.
At that level, there is clearly a great divide, yes.

But ...

are there over riding or higher dominant levels,
and if so are there divides in those higher levels as well,
and if so are the divides along the same lines?

I would answer (1) Yes, (2) Yes and (3) No.

[ThePythonicCow]

The slow burn scenario, as Catherine Austin Fits, Joseph Farrell, Jim Marrs and certainly others have postulated, makes more sense to me when looking at the scripted demolition of the current paradigm, although I do not to rule out an "event" type overnight collapse scenario should it become necessary to keep the script on its path.
Now that you present these alternatives so clearly, it seems likely to me that neither the pure slow boil nor the pure total and sudden collapse scenarios are most likely.

Rather I would expect an ebb and flow, back and forth, sometimes sudden, sometimes gradual, sometimes obvious and sometimes obscured, with the usual mix of black swans and bizarre plot twists.

[Eram]

Since RT stance for Russian Television and doesn't hold back in exposing the Western banking schemes, I would argue that the international bankers do not own both parties of a future WWIII yet.
At that level, there is clearly a great divide, yes.

But ...

are there over riding or higher dominant levels,
and if so are there divides in those higher levels as well,
and if so are the divides along the same lines?

I would answer (1) Yes, (2) Yes and (3) No.

Hi Paul,

Good questions of course, but in order to answer such questions we should have facts to base those answers on.

Have you ever come across substantial facts that point in that direction?
I haven't.

There are tons of research and assembled facts that point toward a banking elite who control the western civilisation and maybe even with ties to the Vatican.
No arguing there.

Can you point me toward valid research based on solid facts that points toward an over riding or higher dominant level?
If not, everything beyond that is pure speculation and not even according the signs that we can witness ourselves.

[ThePythonicCow]

Can you point me toward valid research based on solid facts that points toward an over riding or higher dominant level?
No, I can't :).

Leave open the possibility that "valid research based on solid facts" might not be the best tool for understanding such higher levels.

[Eram]

Can you point me toward valid research based on solid facts that points toward an over riding or higher dominant level?
No, I can't :).

Leave open the possibility that "valid research based on solid facts" might not be the best tool for understanding such higher levels.

Well, since facts, placed in their right context are the only way to get a valid understanding about the world that we live in, it would be the best tool for understanding such higher levels imo.
It's just that there aren't any present, since no one ever penetrated deep enough to assemble any facts and present them to the public.

We are left to channellers, self proclaimed witnesses, self proclaimed contactees, clairvoyants or our own imagination if we want to create a wider view about the world and history shows that this leads to fantasy and fiction.

If all the facts, research and signs that we can witness ourselves point toward an elite that controls the western civilisation who want to implement a NWO that they control, why should we go a step further and base our world view on suspicion and speculation?

Just to be clear, I do this all the time too (speculation) , but I am training myself every day to learn the difference between the two and restrict myself to that which can be proven, internally or externally, to base my understanding of what is true on.

You might argue that it is weird that China and India are allowed to buy up so much gold and I agree, but an answer as to why might be different then just an over riding or higher dominant level.

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture, but I am just like you and every one else here trying my very best to get a clear picture of what is happening in the world and how we can cope or bring change. :o

[Eram]

Can you point me toward valid research based on solid facts that points toward an over riding or higher dominant level?
No, I can't :).

Leave open the possibility that "valid research based on solid facts" might not be the best tool for understanding such higher levels.

Or are you referring to higher levels of a non physical nature? :suspicious:

There's plenty that points that way of course, but still, not to an overall control of all sides of the current divisions on control of today's society.

[ThePythonicCow]

Or are you referring to higher levels of a non physical nature? :suspicious:
I don't know :).

Both "facts" and "physical" are potentially artificially limiting words.

[jake gittes]

Great post (36) gripreaper. While Wilcock et al would have us believe the Russkies are the good guys in this, I'm becoming more convinced this is just more of the same old "good cop, bad cop" game with Russia now playing the good cop for a change, the United States of Israel the bad cop, where the peeps are the perps. Instead of trying to bleed a confession, they're just trying to bleed the peeps of even more of our $ and gain even more power over us all.

Hell of a world we're living in right now.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

The above 50 million figure for India exceeds the 30 million figure I read earlier today for China.

80 million frustrated, expendable men with no future who will not get laid any time soon, in conservative societies, recipe for disaster, I can already see the billboards, "the army needs YOU".

[aheb]

I think that what people need to do is consider what will portend a collapse, I have no illusion that if it benefited China or Russia they would collapse the US. but in China's case she holds $4 trillion of US treasuries/debt so I can't really see that it is in their interest to sell them although it is not in their interest to see the value of this debt shrink due to inflation either. This is the reason that they are buying so much gold, so that if their money in dollars shrinks due to inflation then the corresponding rise in Gold should cover that i.e act as insurance. It is also worth considering that all countries act in their own best interests in 2008 the Russians approached the Chinese about selling treasuries to compound the already bad situation, but China refused.it was not in her best interest.
We can see all sorts of trade and energy agreements being made now between different countries. Germany relies on Russia's gas so I can't see Germany being to keen to enact any sanctions agianst the Russians. In all it is a very tangled and interconnected web...............so we have to look to see what signs there are that are likely to show a collapse is immenent. Some people have said that if interest rates rise this will be a sign, or that it will affect other countries first especially Japan or that one of the big European banks may fail such as Deutche bank or Barclays.
One thing that I do believe is that the authorities will be fully aware or what is going on and you will have to interpret their actions.which may seem strange at the time.to determine that something is upon us..........then you will have to act accordingly. What you do I don't know, precious metal and food supplies seem to be the answer most people favour, but even there I am not so sure, but I guess it doesn't hurt to have a bit put by.

[gripreaper]

Well, if you consider that the petrodollar, as the worlds reserve currency, has been in distribution and circulation for over 80 years now, with more dollars in circulation globally than in the United States, almost all commerce done in dollars, almost all saving in dollars, the strength of the dollar begins to appear very strong still. ALL countries, whether they have their own currencies or not, trade in dollars.

Now, these dollars are issued as debt, and they carry usury and a maturity date, at which time they become worthless. In exchange for these worthless dollars, almost the entire world, save three or four small rogue nations, have forfeited all their gold in exchange for worthless petrodollars, bonds, and consumables. The tangible assets have been long ago pledged and hypoticated and used to build an infrastructure, both economically and technologically, which far surpasses anything we have in the public sector.

Now, these BRIC countries can say "Damn, we've been hoodwinked, so lets buy up as much gold as we can (at retail I might add), make trade agreements outside the petrodollar, and let's re-establish an asset based currency to go up against the petrodollar. Lets force it off it's prominent perch and overtake it with new trading agreements.

So, what the globalist owners of all the tangible assets, all the means of production, all the valuable land, all governments, media, all education, and all of the most advanced stellar technology thousands of years ahead of the public sector, with the most advanced surveillance grid, digital commerce grid, and indentured world populace sending all of their energy and efforts to them by playing the fiat debt slavery game, they are just going to roll over and say?

Sure, you guys can destroy this grid which took us thousands of years to implement. No problem. Go for it.

Or, they could steer the dialectic, collapse the dollar, blame it on the BRIC nations, eliminate all national currencies, force a centrally controlled "special drawing rights" system, which is 100% digital, control all the usury and taxes, and digitally track every single transaction all around the world, and every single behavior.

Then, this control grid could be used to force public sentiment, global agendas, allocation of capital, population control and reduction, elimination of insurgents and miscreants, and provide for a lean and docile slave workforce.

Na, they would never do that, would they?

[ThePythonicCow]

Well, if you consider that the petrodollar, as the worlds reserve currency, has been in distribution and circulation for over 80 years now, with more dollars in circulation globally than in the United States, almost all commerce done in dollars, almost all saving in dollars, the strength of the dollar begins to appear very strong still. ALL countries, whether they have their own currencies or not, trade in dollars.

Now, these dollars are issued as debt, and they carry usury and a maturity date, at which time they become worthless.
No, the dollars are not issued as debt, but as the other side of the debt.

The debt carries usury and maturity dates.

The dollars, on the other side, are a claim against the productivity of the capital created by those loans.

If the loans mostly went toward useful factories, farms and infrastructure, then that productivity will provide some value in return for the cash.

If the loans mostly went toward fraud, drug trafficing, McMansions, empty cities, highways to nowhere, aircraft carriers, drones, interest rate swaps, high frequency trading profits, and such, then that cash won't buy as much, for there will be less of value to buy.

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If one has two children, one of whom spends their time partying, and the other learning skills and knowledge, then one can expect the second child will be more likely do better financially (well, unless one is in the declining phase of an empire, when it seems that partying is valued more than productive labor.)

This is an example of the difference between malinvestment and good investment.

Anytime that one has spare time or energy, above and beyond the immediate task of staying alive, then one can invest that in ways that will benefit one's future, one's family or one's community ... or one can waste it on fun, drugs or other "malinvestments".

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Cultures and civilizations large enough to support cities, industry, trade with others, and specialization of skills require a monetary system that provides generic value in trade, a unit of accounting for managing businesses and taxes, and generic wealth preservation.

The key question is how that new money is created. The power to create money is an immense power, in its most generic and interchangeable form.

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The essential problem of a debt based monetary system is that it encourages malinvestments. Whatever corporation or government or organization or persons gain the power to lend then gain the essential control over what to lend for, and end up lending to further their own wealth and power, not what's best for society or the planet. Eventually the future prospects of a nation or civilization using such a system are destroyed or seriously diminished by the chronic malinvestments.

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The essential challenge of a civilization is maintaining a monetary system that perpetually encourages good investments of "new money", without the control freaks gaining control of the monetary system in order to use the power to issue money not for what's good for civilization, its people and our planet, but rather for what feeds their insatiable hunger for more control.

[ThePythonicCow]

From the UK Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/27/ukraine-crisis-us-new-sanctions-russia-putin):

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Ukraine crisis: US will expand sanctions on Russian power brokers

White House says new sanctions will target companies and people close to Vladimir Putin as Obama tries to rally the EU
...
Washington and Brussels are expected, possibly as early as Monday, to name new people and firms to be hit by punitive measures. In Malaysia, Obama said any decision on wider sanctions would depend on whether the US and its allies could find a unified position.

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From Reuters (on CNBC.com) (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101616482):

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Swift, new sanctions to be imposed on Russia

SLAVIANSK, Ukraine/SEOUL, April 26 (Reuters) - The leaders of the Group of Seven major economies agreed on Saturday to swiftly impose further sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine crisis, and the United States could unveil its new punitive measures as early as Monday, officials said.

"We believe that these sanctions will have a significant impact," U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communication Ben Rhodes said.

The new sanctions will likely target individuals or companies with influence in specific sectors of the Russian economy such as energy and banking, said Rhodes, with Washington expected to announce its sanctions list as early as Monday.

The European Union will announce sanctions separately.

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[ThePythonicCow]

From Adam Molon, CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101614522):

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Some Western firms could face Russian retaliation

Tougher Western sanctions against Russia would likely have dire consequences for that country's monolithic, energy-reliant economy, but experts say the punishment also could trigger retaliation from Moscow against American and European multinationals.

"There no doubt would be Russian retaliation," said Justin Logan, director of foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. "Companies with money tied up in Russia would have a tough time getting it back out."

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The lion's share of foreign money in Russia is from major energy sector players like Shell, Exxon, and BP, said Fadel Gheit, senior energy analyst at Oppenheimer.
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[naste.de.lumina]

Then, this control grid could be used to force public sentiment, global agendas, allocation of capital, population control and reduction, elimination of insurgents and miscreants, and provide for a lean and docile slave workforce.

Na, they would never do that, would they?

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[gripreaper]

No, the dollars are not issued as debt, but as the other side of the debt. The debt carries usury and maturity dates. The dollars, on the other side, are a claim against the productivity of the capital created by those loans.

Well, lets take a look at that in it's most basic terms. I will use the United States as an example, although the same analogy could be applied to the 75 trillion annual global GDP against 7 billion people, but to make it simple let's just use the 14 trillion annual GDP of the United States against the 300 million people.

So, divide 14 trillion by 300 million, and you get 46,000 a year in productivity per person. Multiply that by 40 years, and the "assumed value" of a person's productive life is 1,866,000. So, your birth certificate bond is hypoticated and a line of credit is issued to the US Treasury by the Federal Reserve for this amount, which the government can draw upon, pay interest for, and repay over the maturity of the loan.

So, how much debt is in circulation against these bonds, and how much productivity occurs to service this debt? At some point, there are too many dollars chasing too little production, and the debt can no longer be serviced. THIS is the problem, not just the allocation of capital towards productivity. This would require indexing the currency to tangibles, which we have not done for decades.

So, with leverage, such as derivatives, bets against them, insurance against those bets, and not enough productivity to service the debt, the setup for perpetual slavery is fully intact, and the expansion of the debt money supply is the only way to perpetuate this ponzi. As long as more debt enters commerce, at a faster rate than it is retired, then there is enough "promises to pay" in circulation to keep commerce moving. Once debt slows down, the ponzi begins to cannibalize itself, bankruptcies occur, debt is discharged, those negotiable instruments disappear, and all existing capital is pressured to fill the gap. Under this pressure, all capital sitting on the sidelines in forced to service debt and therefore is not available for capital improvements or the expansion of tangible assets.

The system is utterly flawed. There is no way to fix it. The Keynesian model based on debt is fallacious, and the Austrian model of "allocation of capital and resources" is also flawed. The actual value of tangibles inevitably flows into the hands of the few and is mis-allocated in BOTH systems. Both systems are based on scarcity and control.

The only system which will work is one based on abundance and free energy. With free energy, the very mechanisms of scarcity and control cease to exist.

[ThePythonicCow]

The system is utterly flawed. There is no way to fix it. The Keynesian model based on debt is fallacious, and the Austrian model of "allocation of capital and resources" is also flawed. The actual value of tangibles inevitably flows into the hands of the few and is mis-allocated in BOTH systems. Both systems are based on scarcity and control.

The only system which will work is one based on abundance and free energy. With free energy, the very mechanisms of scarcity and control cease to exist.
We agree that the current system is utterly flawed. I doubt that my post to which you were responding was sufficiently well written to adequately communicate my thoughts.

Be that as it may:



Whatever improvements humanity finds, be it a fire, wheels, steel, bits and stirrups for horses, coal, petroleum or nuclear energy, ships, trains, cars, planes, rockets, gold backed monetary systems, debt backed monetary systems, electricity, radios, televisions, computers, the Internet, cryptocurrencies, or free energy, so long as the control mad bastards can "weaponize" that to further improve their control over the rest of humanity, the system will remain utterly flawed, and the more powerful the weapons at their disposal, the greater the flaws.

Seriously - look at that list - every damn one of them has been or is being weaponized, the better to dominate humanity. No new advancement is allowed to see the light of day until such time as it can be controlled by some powerful bastards.

There is no magic bullet. We resist and rebel and persist and carry on, supporting each other and sharing what we can spare, knowing not how it will play out, or even if it ever will, for that is our duty.

[skippy]

Whatever improvements humanity finds, be it a fire, wheels, steel, bits and stirrups for horses, coal, petroleum or nuclear energy, ships, trains, cars, planes, rockets, gold backed monetary systems, debt backed monetary systems, electricity, radios, televisions, computers, the Internet, cryptocurrencies, or free energy, so long as the control mad bastards can "weaponize" that to further improve their control over the rest of humanity, the system will remain utterly flawed, and the more powerful the weapons at their disposal, the greater the flaws.

Seriously - look at that list - every damn one of them has been or is being weaponized, the better to dominate humanity. No new advancement is allowed to see the light of day until such time as it can be controlled by some powerful bastards.


Nothing new under the sun. Human behaviour and the natural evolution of species. Animal survival instinct. Eat or be eaten. Don't expect a free lunch from the ruling elite.

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[ThePythonicCow]

Nothing new under the sun. Human behaviour and the natural evolution of species. Animal survival instinct. Eat or be eaten. Don't expect a free lunch from the ruling elite.
Not always.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01497/cat-and-mouse_1497404a.jpg

Perhaps it is uncommon for a cat and a mouse to be friends, but in my experience, most ordinary people are decent people.

[ThePythonicCow]

Yes - that is key for China and the other BRICS nations: whether they get another economic, monetary and financial system at least minimally functioning, before the US Dollar collapses back down from being the currency of world trade, contract and lending, to being once again just another national currency.
Jim Willie predicts in his subscription Hat Trick Letter (http://www.goldenjackass.com) that the Chinese will have one key element of an alternative monetary system up and running sooner than most analysists anticipate:
The Chinese Yuan (often called Renminbi, meaning people's money) will be allowed to be a freely tradeable currency, first in June 2014 inside the Shanghai Free Trade Zone (FTZ), and then later across all of China by September to December 2014 timeframe.
So, if the script is to cause a obvious crisis to the US Dollar before the BRICS can get alternatives on-line, then by this forecast of Jim Willie, time is running short (a few months at most.)

[eaglespirit]

Or are you referring to higher levels of a non physical nature? :suspicious:
I don't know :).

Both "facts" and "physical" are potentially artificially limiting words.

...and that is that!

Realization of such and potent personal experiences of such lead to an unlimited world of non-limiting personal thoughts and action!

[Eram]

Or are you referring to higher levels of a non physical nature? :suspicious:
I don't know :).

Both "facts" and "physical" are potentially artificially limiting words.

...and that is that!

Realization of such and potent personal experiences of such lead to an unlimited world of non-limiting personal thoughts and action!

Inspiring words for when you address short-sightedness, denial or ignorance eaglespirit, but when we are trying to establish how far the tentacles of the banking elite reach, it is of nu use to say that there are no limits and that anything goes.
Same thing for when you are building a garage. I'm sure that you take all necessary laws of physics as well as the facts about your construction material and equipment into account when you're building. hmmm? ;)

[skippy]

Why would Putin cause millions of losses to his friends? Or the other way around, why would Putin's friends let Putin .. The Russian oligarchs are currently having some good times, owning football clubs, and some very nice villas at the European rivieras...

U.S. Plans to Hit Putin Inner Circle With New Sanctions
Bloomberg News, Apr 28, 2014

The U.S. and European Union will impose new sanctions as early as today on Russian companies and individuals close to President Vladimir Putin over the escalating crisis in Ukraine, officials said. “We will be looking to designate people who are in his inner circle, who have a significant impact on the Russian economy,” Deputy White House National Security Adviser Tony Blinken said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” program yesterday. “We’ll be looking to designate companies that they and other inner-circle people control. We’ll be looking at taking steps as well with regard to high-technology exports to their defense industry. All of this together is going to have an impact.”

[aheb]

The global elites are not all powerfull I mean we had the tech crash bubble , the housing bubble and the financial bubble of 2008..........did they engineer them? I doubt it. I think that it was just out of control greed, which is what we are still seeing today.

[Calz]

MSM story a real yawner (ties into a fascinating financial twist if you stick with it) ...

... but wait ... Joseph Farrell story (if true and I wager it is) makes things a *whole* lot more interesting ...



Russia fighter jet buzzed US destroyer: Pentagon.

April 14, 2014 2:01 PM

Washington (AFP) - A Russian fighter jet made several passes at low altitude near a US destroyer cruising in international waters in the Black Sea at the weekend, the Pentagon said Monday, branding it "provocative and unprofessional."


http://news.yahoo.com/russia-fighter...lkA1ZJUDQyM18x




RUSSIAN SU-24 BOMBER SQUARES OFF AGAINST USS DONALD COOK

Posted on April 27, 2014 by Joseph P. Farrell

This one has to have them scratching their heads, and “reconsidering their options” in Washington, District of Corruption.

But first, a little history lesson. At 3:15 AM, on June 22, 1941, the largest military campaign in human history began, as two enormously powerful military machines squared off against each other: the Russian Red Army, and the German Wehrmacht; Adolf Hitler had begun his invasion of the Soviet Union. We won’t, of course, recount that whole grizzly campaign – responsible for over half of the all casualties of World War Two in all theaters. What I want to draw your attention to is something the invading German soldiers encountered: the Russian T-34, KV-1, and KV-2, tanks. Now, I’m not a subscriber to the great “T-34″ mythology that populates military history books and sound bites on television shows. But that isn’t my point here. My point is that these three types of tank were totally unknown to the Germans, and indeed, to the rest of the world’s military. They had never appeared in any pre-war Soviet May day parade, yet, when the Germans invaded, they encountered these Russian monsters in their hundreds.

Three totally unknown weapons systems.

And the Russians had more or less successfully kept thousands of them hidden from any observation prior to the outbreak of the war.

Now, in the light of that context, and in the light of Washington’s huffing and puffing about Russian behavior in looking out for its own geopolitical interests, and in the light of the US Navy sending warships into the Black Sea as a result of the whole Ukrainian mess, consider this interesting story:

Russian Su-24 Scores Off Against the American USS DOnald Cook

( http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21/Russian-Su-24-scores-off-against-the-American-USS-Donald-Cook-5786/ )

There are so many things to ponder here that one does not really know where to begin. But first off, the idea that the Russian Su-24 performed this mission as a will-o-the-wisp or on a lark from the local Russian commander is out of the question. This was a carefully staged demonstration that would have had to come from the highest levels of authorization, for the simple reason that it is revealing of sophisticated Russian jamming and electronics interference technology; it was a bit similar to the withholding from public scrutiny of the Russian tanks prior to the outbreak of the Russo-German theater of World War Two. In this case, the message is clear: Russia has the technological capability to interfere with the USA’s most sophisticated missile defense technology, a message that cannot be lost on the American military establishment. The Russians have demonstrated a capability that, if guessed at by Washington, is now confirmed.

The real problem here is that there is another implicit message: “if we have this capability, and are willing to demonstrate it, what other capabilities might we have that we have not revealed?”

But there is another revelation in this article, and I hope the reader caught what it might be(assuming, of course, that it is not mere propaganda on the Russians’ part). That revelation is contained in this passage:



“In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, “Aegis” spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. “Aegis” was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.

“Apparently, all efforts to revive the “Aegis” and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia’s reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:

“The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with “Aegis”, the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the “Aegis” system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.”


What is being suggested here is something profound, and, for the western oligarchs, profoundly disturbing, for what is being suggested is that this was not a typical radar jamming scenario, but rather, than a remote means of shutting down the Aegis’ system’s software was in play: the “algorithm…did not load.” This recalls episodes from UFO cases from both America and the Soviet Union during the 1960s and 1970s, where UFOs apparently remotely interfered with the on-board computer and targeting systems of ICBMs, programming and re-targeting the missiles, or in one famous case from the Soviet Union, actually beginning the launch sequence of Russian ICBMs remotely. As Robert Hastings noted in his masterful study of UFO-nuclear weapons cases, the American Boeing company was called in to study this phenomenon, and had some success in duplicating some of the UFO effects on American missiles by remote electromagnetic means.

One can only assume that the Russians would have undertaken similar studies in response to similar incidents in Russia, and if the Aegis incident in the Black Sea, as reported in the above article, is any indicator, the Russians have had some success as well. And this means in turn the potential exists to interfere by such means in all types of electronic systems, including the systems of electronic international financial clearing. One can imagine an episode of an Su-24 flying over, say, the SWIFT headquarters in Brussels, or Russian satellites equipped with similar capabilities in space, producing similar results in Western satellites, where the “algorithm fails to load.” Similarly, Russia’s anti-aircraft carrier cruise missiles, coupled with the use of such capabilities, have also got to be causing nightmare migraines, for it means that the nucleus of Western naval power is potentially dangerously exposed.

If we can consider such potentialities, rest assured, they are considering them in London and Washington, for the potentialities are profoundly disturbing.

See you on the flip side.

This was a message whose significance and implications are difficult, if not impossible, to avoid.


http://gizadeathstar.com/farrell/1-announcements-events/

[rgray222]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnCRZd9x_3Q

[spiritguide]

Calz,

Now I know why the Spy vs Spy feature in MAD magazine was so interesting. It displayed the truth of mindless adversaries.

Peace!

hzqT94-K6tY

Think about it!

[ThePythonicCow]

Same thing for when you are building a garage. I'm sure that you take all necessary laws of physics as well as the facts about your construction material and equipment into account when you're building. hmmm? ;)
The actual laws of physics will be obeyed, whether one likes the result (say a crushed BMW in the collapsed rubble) or not.

The laws taught to you in school may or may not apply, as those working in the free energy area are learning. This is even a bigger problem in such areas as economics or the true nature of power and its disposition on this planet, where what's taught is even further from the reality.

[ThePythonicCow]

Back a bit closer to this thread's purported topic ...

US Unveils New Sanctions Against 7 Russians, 17 Companies (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/us-unveils-new-sanctions-against-7-russians-17-companies):




U.S. sanctions, to be announced today, will target Russian individuals and companies involved in financial, energy, infrastructure sectors, congressional official familiar with White House plan tells Bloomberg’s Jonathan Allen. U.S. SAID TO SANCTION 7 RUSSIANS, 17 COMPANIES IN NEW ACTIONS
PERSON ON CAPITOL HILL DISCUSSES NEW U.S. SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAAs we already noted it appears Rosneft and Gazprom (and Gazprombank) will be among the companies (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-26/tit-tat-ukraine-blocks-crimea-water-supply-russia-set-halt-ukraine-gas) but the one to watch is for a direct sanction against Vladimir Putin himself (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-27/quest-find-putins-billions). Full list to follow... and then the blowback.

President Barack Obama said earlier today in Manila that the U.S. is “moving forward with an expanded list of individuals and companies that will be affected by sanctions. They will remain targeted. It will also focus on some areas of high-tech defense exports to Russia.”

Statement by the Press Secretary on Ukraine

The United States has taken further action today in response to Russia’s continued illegal intervention in Ukraine and provocative acts that undermine Ukraine’s democracy and threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity. At the contact group meeting in Geneva on April 17, 2014, Russia, Ukraine, the United States, and the European Union decided on a number of steps to deescalate the situation in eastern Ukraine, including refraining from further violence or provocative acts. Since April 17, Russia has done nothing to meet its Geneva commitments and in fact has further escalated the crisis. Russia’s involvement in the recent violence in eastern Ukraine is indisputable.

The United States made clear it would impose additional costs on Russia if it failed live up to its Geneva commitments and take concrete steps to deescalate the situation in Ukraine. Consequently, today the United States is imposing targeted sanctions on a number of Russian individuals and entities and restricting licenses for certain U.S. exports to Russia. The Department of the Treasury is imposing sanctions on seven Russian government officials, including two members of President Putin’s inner circle, who will be subject to an asset freeze and a U.S. visa ban, and 17 companies linked to Putin’s inner circle, which will be subject to an asset freeze. In addition, the Department of Commerce has imposed additional restrictions on 13 of those companies by imposing a license requirement with a presumption of denial for the export, re-export or other foreign transfer of U.S.-origin items to the companies. Further, today the Departments of Commerce and State have announced a tightened policy to deny export license applications for any high-technology items that could contribute to Russia’s military capabilities. Those Departments also will revoke any existing export licenses that meet these conditions.

The international community has been unified in its position that Russia must cease its illegal intervention and provocative actions in Ukraine. The United States, working closely with its partners, remains prepared to impose still greater costs on Russia if the Russian leadership continues these provocations instead of de-escalating the situation, consistent with its Geneva commitments. The executive order signed by the President on March 20, 2014, authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to impose sanctions on individuals and entities operating in key sectors of the Russian economy, such as financial services, energy, metals and mining, engineering, and defense. If there is further Russian military intervention in Ukraine, we are prepared to sanction entities under this authority.

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Dang it, Feds ... it wasn't Russia causing the violence and disruptions in the Ukraine ... it was US Intelligence and associated "Gladio" style operations, trying to frame Russia !

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The full US Treasury list of new sanction targets is at Zerohedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/ceo-russias-largest-oil-company-rosneft-us-sanctions-list), and originally posted by the U.S. Dept. of Treasury (http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140428.aspx).

It includes Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft, Russia's largest oil extractor and refiner.

[ThePythonicCow]

From ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/russian-relief-rally-us-sanctions-list-better-expected), the Russian stock market jumped sharply, and the US Dollar fell sharply against the Russian Ruple, when these latest sanctions were announced.

[ThePythonicCow]

From Russia Voices "Disgust" At New US Sanctions, Warns "Won't Go Unanswered" (Zerohedge) (Russia Voices "Disgust" At New US Sanctions, Warns Won't Go Unanswered):




Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as come out swinging after US issued a new round of sanctions against citizens and companies of the nation:
RUSSIA WON'T LET SANCTIONS GO UNANSWERED: INTERFAX
RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER RYABKOV VOICES "DISGUST" AT WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT ON NEW U.S. SANCTIONS -INTERFAXAs we await the European Union's reaction (which the US has said is imminent... hopefully)...
U.S. OFFICIAL CONFIDENT EUROPE WOULD JOIN SECTORAL SANCTIONS
it is the blowback from Russia that is most importance - despite constant protestation by talking-heads on mainstream media channels that any sanctions on Russia will have no impact on US business...

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Meanwhile the thugs on the ground continue to stir the pot. From Donetsk Riots Break Out In "Scenes Of Absolute Brutality" (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/donetsk-clashes-break-out-scenes-absolute-brutality):



It seems the US and EU sanctions escalation has done nothing to calm the tensions between Ukrainians and pro-Russian forces in Donetsk, where according to report ultranationalists from Kiev are involved in a skirmish with local riot police. As the following clip suggests... "rocks and missiles are being thrown from both sides - there are injuries and scenes of absolute brutality as both sides clash."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmUg1kaCYAENAq4.jpg:large

[naste.de.lumina]

Again we have to endure this insidious manipulation by the cabal.

They want a lot of anger and hate.

Peb_tiIp95A

[ThePythonicCow]

Again we have to endure this insidious manipulation by the cabal.

They want a lot of anger and hate.
Zerohedge has more video of this clash at Donetsk Riots Break Out In "Scenes Of Absolute Brutality" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/donetsk-clashes-break-out-scenes-absolute-brutality).

[naste.de.lumina]

When we look at these videos with these scenes of violence, seem so distant from our everyday common.

The world these people falling over all. It seems a sad movie.

That feeling of seeing a movie was over when I made the mistake of watching a video of the murder the police chief of the Donetsk city. Beheaded. The sadness is replaced by anger and not looks more like a movie.

Looks like a madhouse of bloodthirsty vampires psychopaths.

Then I start to notice the feelings that build up inside me.

Where does this feeling of revenge?

Is it correct to feel them or my mission is to fight them?

And I find once again that I know nothing.

[ThePythonicCow]

Again we have to endure this insidious manipulation by the cabal.

They want a lot of anger and hate.
Gerald Celente agrees - the propaganda in the US, repeatedly over and over blaming the violence in the Ukraine on "pro-Russian militants" is trying to take us to war:rmXpZyJ1AXw

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When we look at these videos with these scenes of violence, seem so distant from our everyday common.
I don't know about Brazil, but I'm pretty sure that this violence will be increasingly seen in the US over the next few years, as anger against our out of control government rises.

[ThePythonicCow]

Gerald Celente agrees - the propaganda in the US, repeatedly over and over blaming the violence in the Ukraine on "pro-Russian militants" is trying to take us to war
Martin Armstrong on the other hand (whom I usually find to be one of the best) strongly disagrees. He presents evidence that the Russians are occupying parts of eastern Ukraine already, with whatever brutality and news suppression they deem necessary. You can read the gory details, and view the gory images, at Russia using Chechnya Troops to Occupy Eastern Ukraine – This is Checkmate (http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/russia-using-chechnya-troops-to-occupy-eastern-ukraine-this-is-checkmate/).

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't know about Brazil, but I'm pretty sure that this violence will be increasingly seen in the US over the next few years, as anger against our out of control government rises.
Well, the good Martin Armstrong does agree with me on this point (or, more likely, I acquired my view partly from reading him): Is A Crash Inevitable? The Spiral Vortex Of Debt And Corruption (http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/is-a-crash-inevitable-the-spiral-vortex-of-debt-and-corruption/).

[naste.de.lumina]

I don't know about Brazil, but I'm pretty sure that this violence will be increasingly seen in the US over the next few years, as anger against our out of control government rises.

Here in Brazil violence will already start in June 2014 with the start of the World Cup Soccer.

Many will be protests against the thievery that were the building of the stadium for the big event. Many of them made ​​for conflicts occur.

As occurred last year during the Confederations Cup (pre World Cup).

Guess who is training Brazilian police to prevent 'terrorists' attacks (protest will be considered a terrorist act)?

MERCENARIES OF ANTIQUE BLACKWATER TRAINING BRAZILIAN POLICE FOR THE WORLD CUP (http://tribunadaimprensa.com.br/?p=84252)

P.S.: If there's time and the third world war will not begin before course.

[eaglespirit]

Or are you referring to higher levels of a non physical nature? :suspicious:
I don't know :).

Both "facts" and "physical" are potentially artificially limiting words.

...and that is that!

Realization of such and potent personal experiences of such lead to an unlimited world of non-limiting personal thoughts and action!

Inspiring words for when you address short-sightedness, denial or ignorance eaglespirit, but when we are trying to establish how far the tentacles of the banking elite reach, it is of nu use to say that there are no limits and that anything goes.
Same thing for when you are building a garage. I'm sure that you take all necessary laws of physics as well as the facts about your construction material and equipment into account when you're building. hmmm? ;)

...been busy building in this, ummm, 'tentacle disrupted' reality!

Good Morning Eram : )

I see it as Higher-Sightedness...living in 3d and Spirit simultaneously, in this world(actively) but not of it!

Not saying that 'anything goes' at all...it is a well planned and earnestly worked at personal energy output of sending out the Higher Thoughts of a Culmination of Good to Overcome ALL the nonsense that has been going on for oh so long and the very thing We came here to 're-align' to a Higher Way, One by One Together.
This may be seen as 'poppycock' to many...but I believe with my heart and have experienced that it truly does adjust matters... in the personal present now and world-wide affairs if the intent and consistence of the Higher Practice is there...........all done while planning and coordinating design and paper work and material and people and action to build a garage in this lower and Higher 'Fluid' Reality!

I am actually going through something very personal that may just show how We can alter things by using the system and changing the system, at the same time, affecting and effecting the whole of this conundrum being discussed here. I shall share here at PA as things unfold.

In the meantime..."May there BE a new and Loving way to energize Good to come of all of this harmful nonsense!"

[ThePythonicCow]

Though it seems, at least for now, that we're still frogs sitting in water that's only slowly getting warmer ... and warmer ... and ...
Ah - I missed the obvious point here - whether or not anyone of us sees this as gradual or sudden will depend on how alert we are.

What seems sudden to the uninitiated seems inevitable to the master.

[TargeT]

Though it seems, at least for now, that we're still frogs sitting in water that's only slowly getting warmer ... and warmer ... and ...
Ah - I missed the obvious point here - whether or not anyone of us sees this as gradual or sudden will depend on how alert we are.

What seems sudden to the uninitiated seems inevitable to the master.

or what seems sudden to the TV watcher seems inevitable to the self informed.


From ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/russian-relief-rally-us-sanctions-list-better-expected), the Russian stock market jumped sharply, and the US Dollar fell sharply against the Russian Ruple, when these latest sanctions were announced.

so... we shot our selves in the foot?

that seems like the oppisite of what was intended... shows how much of a powershift has occured with the US that we have to wait for the EU to "back" us.

[animovado]

Seriously - look at that list - every damn one of them has been or is being weaponized, the better to dominate humanity. No new advancement is allowed to see the light of day until such time as it can be controlled by some powerful bastards.

First and foremost our thoughts are most weaponized. If there is no shift in the way we perceive the things around us, we will blame everything bad what happens to us onto the things in the mirror. But we just see there our own reflections.

There are a lot of good ideas about a new financial system that are not based on greed, self interest and scarcity, but rather on lending and donating.
Benefit can be in accordance with the greater good.
Even today there are financial institutions which deliver such services.

[Atlas]

There are a lot of good ideas about a new financial system that are not based on greed, self interest and scarcity, but rather on lending and donating. [...] Even today there are financial institutions which deliver such services.

Can you give an example of a 'financial institution which delivers such services'? I'm asking because none comes to mind.

[TargeT]

Can you give an example of a 'financial institution which delivers such services'? I'm asking because none comes to mind.

well you wouldn't call it a financial institution, as that inherantly infers greed and scarcity...

it's more of a "social movement"

look here:
qIo2etWlnDM

Michael Tellinger presents the philosophy of UBUNTU Contributionism in Durban South Africa on the 3rd Nov 2012. A Blueprint For a New Social Stucture – What do we do when the global economy collapses? What do we do when the banks close down? We have to consider a brand new social structure – something that we have never tried as the human race. The UBUNTU Liberation Movement and Political party are active in South Africa and are supported by thousands of people around the world. Michael Tellinger is involved in several legal cases against the unlawful activity of the banks in South Africa – the UBUNTU Party is the platform to take this information to the people of the world. Join the UBUNTU Movement and support us with small donations if you can to keep us alive and effective – http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za

http://www.michaeltellinger.com/ubuntu-cont.php

[gnostic9]

From Furious Russia, Downgraded To Just Above Junk By S&P, Proposes "Scorched Earth" Retaliation Against NATO Countries (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-25/furious-russia-downgraded-just-above-junk-sp-proposes-scorched-earth-retaliation-aga):

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But far more importantly, and ahead of yet another round of western sanctions which appears imminent unless Obama is to look even more powerless than he currently is (granted, a difficult achievement), Russian presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev proposed plan of 15 measures to protect country’s economy if sanctions applied, Vedomosti newspaper reports, citing Glazyev’s letter to Finance Ministry. According to Vedomosti as Bloomberg reported, Glazyev proposed:

Russia should withdraw all assets, accounts in dollars, euros from NATO countries to neutral ones
Russia should start selling NATO member sovereign bonds before Russia’s foreign-currency accounts are frozen
Central bank should reduce dollar assets, sell sovereign bonds of countries that support sanctions
Russia should limit commercial banks’ FX assets to prevent speculation on ruble, capital outflows
Central bank should increase money supply so that state cos., banks may refinance foreign loans
Russia should use national currencies in trade with customs Union members, other non-dollar, non-euro partners

In other words, a full-blown scorched earth campaign by Russia.

Granted, Russian holdings of US Treasurys are not that substantial (and could be monetized entirely in three months of POMO by the Fed), and western financial linkages to Russia, aside from trade routes, are not life-threatening, but if Russia were to take the baton, and other BRIC countries, already furious by the recent US decision to not boost their IMF status, follow suit, then Obama's life is about to become a living nightmare. Especially, if that most important BRIC member - China - does any of the many things it can do to indicate if, in this brand new Cold War, it is with or against the US...
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There's more at the above ZeroHedge link.

We are engaged in a global economic/monetary/financial war, and all signs indicate this war is about to get hot.

If ethnic Russians continue to be killed in the Ukraine, prompting Russia's promised response (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russias-foreign-minister-vows-response-if-citizens-attacked-in-ukraine/) (which US Sec of State will no doubt label an invasion of the most dastardly sort), then the sanctions that would prompt a Russian response such as those above would seem all but certain.

Moreover, just such continued provocation of Russia, the killing of ethnic Russians in the Ukraine (with the US blaming the violence on Russia!) seems almost certain as well.

The writing is on the wall. The US Petro Dollar's reign is coming to an end.

Scorched Earth, very Bushesque! It's simply a counter move in the global game! all leaders are pyschopaths! Have a jolly life

[ThePythonicCow]

Scorched Earth, very Bushesque! It's simply a counter move in the global game! all leaders are pyschopaths! Have a jolly life
As best as I can tell, it was ZeroHedge, in the name of Tyler Durden, who used the phrase "scorched earth".

I suspect that the Russians would say what they would of this in the Russian language :).

[animovado]

There are a lot of good ideas about a new financial system that are not based on greed, self interest and scarcity, but rather on lending and donating. [...] Even today there are financial institutions which deliver such services.

Can you give an example of a 'financial institution which delivers such services'? I'm asking because none comes to mind.

Hopefully these these links will help to find some:

http://www.gabv.org

http://www.inaise.org

https://www.gls.de/privatkunden/english-portrait/

[Calz]

Perhaps "Open financial war" is only the cover story??? Long but stick with it as he builds an interesting case.

_________________


Who is the new secret buyer of U.S. debt?

Brandon Smith
Alt-Market.com
Wed, 21 May 2014 02:41 CDT

On the surface, the economic atmosphere of the U.S. has appeared rather calm and uneventful. Stocks are up, employment isn't great but jobs aren't collapsing into the void (at least not openly), and the U.S. dollar seems to be going strong. Peel away the thin veneer, however, and a different financial horror show is revealed.

U.S. stocks have enjoyed unprecedented crash protection due to a steady infusion of fiat money from the Federal Reserve known as quantitative easing. With the advent of the "taper", QE is now swiftly coming to a close (as is evident in the overall reduction in treasury market purchases), and is slated to end by this fall, if not sooner.

Employment has been boosted only in statistical presentation, and not in reality. The Labor Department's creative accounting of job numbers omits numerous factors, the most important being the issue of long term unemployed. Millions of people who have been jobless for so long they no longer qualify for benefits are being removed from the rolls. This quiet catastrophe has the side bonus of making it appear as though unemployment is going down.

U.S. Treasury bonds, and by extension the dollar, have also stayed afloat due to the river of stimulus being introduced by the Federal Reserve. That same river, through QE, is now drying up.

In my article The Final Swindle Of Private American Wealth Has Begun,I outline the data which leads me to believe that the Fed taper is a deliberate action in preparation for an impending market collapse. The effectiveness of QE stimulus has a shelf-life, and that shelf life has come to an end. With debt monetization no longer a useful tool in propping up the ailing U.S. economy, central bankers are publicly stepping back. Why? If a collapse occurs while stimulus is in full swing, the Fed immediately takes full blame for the calamity, while being forced to admit that central banking as a concept serves absolutely no meaningful purpose.

My research over many years has led me to conclude that a collapse of the American system is not only expected by international financiers, but is in fact being engineered by them. The Fed is an entity created by globalists for globalists. These people have no loyalties to any one country or culture. Their only loyalties are to themselves and their private organizations.

While many people assume that the stimulus measures of the Fed are driven by a desire to save our economy and currency, I see instead a concerted program of destabilization which is meant to bring about the eventual demise of our nation's fiscal infrastructure. What some might call "kicking the can down the road," I call deliberately stretching the country thin over time, so that any indirect crisis can be used as a trigger event to bring the ceiling crashing down.

In the past several months, the Fed taper of QE and subsequently U.S. bond buying has coincided with steep declines in purchases by China, a dump of one-fifth of holdings by Russia, and an overall decline in new purchases of U.S. dollars for FOREX reserves.

With the Ukraine crisis now escalating to fever pitch, BRIC nations are openly discussing the probability of "de-dollarization" in international summits, and the ultimate dumping of the dollar as the world reserve currency.

The U.S. is in desperate need of a benefactor to purchase its ever rising debt and keep the system running. Strangely, a buyer with apparently bottomless pockets has arrived to pick up the slack that the Fed and the BRICS are leaving behind. But, who is this buyer?

At first glance, it appears to be the tiny nation of Belgium.

While foreign investment in the U.S. has sharply declined since March, Belgium has quickly become the third largest buyer of Treasury bonds, just behind China and Japan, purchasing more than $200 billion in securities in the past five months, adding to a total stash of around $340 billion. This development is rather bewildering, primarily because Belgium's GDP as of 2012 was a miniscule $483 billion, meaning, Belgium has spent nearly the entirety of its yearly GDP on our debt.

Clearly, this is impossible, and someone, somewhere, is using Belgium as a proxy in order to prop up the U.S. But who?

Recently, a company based in Belgium called Euroclear has come forward claiming to be the culprit behind the massive purchases of American debt. Euroclear, though, is not a direct buyer. Instead, the bank is a facilitator, using what it calls a "collateral highway" to allow central banks and international banks to move vast amounts of securities around the world faster than ever before.

Euroclear claims to be an administrator for more than $24 trillion in worldwide assets and transactions, but these transactions are not initiated by the company itself. Euroclear is a middleman used by our secret buyer to quickly move U.S. Treasuries into various accounts without ever being identified. So the question remains, who is the true buyer?

My investigation into Euroclear found some interesting facts. Euroclear has financial relationships with more than 90 percent of the world's central banks and was once partly owned and run by 120 of the largest financial institutions back when it was called the "Euroclear System". The organization was consolidated and operated by none other than JP Morgan Bank in 1972. In 2000, Euroclear was officially incorporated and became its own entity. However, one must remember, once a JP Morgan bank, always a JP Morgan bank.

Another interesting fact - Euroclear also has a strong relationship with the Russian government and is a primary broker for Russian debt to foreign investors. This once again proves my ongoing point that Russia is tied to the global banking cabal as much as the United States. The East vs. West paradigm is a sham of the highest order.

Euroclear's ties to the banking elite are obvious; however, we are still no closer to discovering the specific groups or institution responsible for buying up U.S. debt. I think that the use of Euroclear and Belgium may be a key in understanding this mystery.

Belgium is the political center of the EU, with more politicians, diplomats and lobbyists than Washington D.C. It is also, despite its size and economic weakness, a member of an exclusive economic club called the "Group Of Ten" (G10).

The G10 nations have all agreed to participate in a "General Arrangement to Borrow" (GAB) launched in 1962 by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The GAB is designed as an ever cycling fund which members pay into. In times of emergency, members can ask the IMF's permission for a release of funds. If the IMF agrees, it then injects capital through Treasury purchases and SDR allocations. Essentially, the IMF takes our money, then gives it back to us in times of desperation (with strings attached). A similar program called 'New Arrangements To Borrow' (NAB) involves 38 member countries. This fund was boosted to approximately 370 billion SDR (or $575 billion dollars U.S.) as the derivatives crisis struck markets in 2008-2009. Without a full and independent audit of the IMF, however, it is impossible to know the exact funds it has at its disposal, or how many SDR's it has created.

It should be noted the Bank of International Settlements is also an overseer of the G10. If you want to learn more about the darker nature of globalist groups like the IMF and the BIS, read my articles, Russia Is Dominated By Global Banks, Too, and False East/West Paradigm Hides The Rise Of Global Currency.

The following article from Harpers titled "Ruling The World Of Money," was published in 1983 and boasts about the secrecy and "ingenuity" of the Bank Of International Settlements, an unaccountable body of financiers that dominates the very course of economic life around the world.

It is my belief that Belgium, as a member of the G10 and the GAB/NAB agreements, is being used as a proxy by the BIS and the IMF to purchase U.S. debt, but at a high price. I believe that the banking elite are hiding behind their middleman, Euroclear, because they do not want their purchases of Treasuries revealed too soon. I believe that the IMF in particular is accumulating U.S. debt to be used later as leverage to absorb the dollar and finalize the rise of their SDR currency basket as the world reserve standard.

Imagine what would happen if all foreign creditors abandoned U.S. debt purchases because the dollar was no longer seen as viable as a world reserve currency. Imagine that the Fed's efforts to stimulate through fiat printing became useless in propping up Treasuries, serving only to devalue the domestic buying power of our currency. Imagine that the IMF swoops in as the lender of last resort; the only entity willing to service our debt and keep the system running. Imagine what kind of concessions America would have to make to a global loan shark like the IMF.

Keep in mind, the plan to replace the dollar is not mere "theory". In fact, IMF head Christine Lagarde has openly called for a "global financial system" to take over in the place of the current dollar based system.

The Bretton Woods System, established in 1944, was used by the United Nations and participating governments to form international rules of economic conduct, including fixed rates for currencies and establishing the dollar as the monetary backbone. The IMF was created during this shift towards globalization as the BIS slithered into the background after its business dealings with the Nazis were exposed. It was the G10, backed by the IMF, that then signed the Smithsonian Agreement in 1971 which ended the Bretton Woods system of fixed currencies, as well as any remnants of the gold standard. This led to the floated currency system we have today, as well as the slow poison of monetary inflation which has now destroyed more than 98 percent of the dollar's purchasing power.

I believe the next and final step in the banker program is to reestablish a new Bretton Woods style system in the wake of an engineered catastrophe. That is to say, we are about to go full circle. Perhaps Ukraine will be the cover event, or tensions in the South China Sea. Just as Bretton Woods was unveiled during World War II, Bretton Woods redux may be unveiled during World War III. In either case, the false East/West paradigm is the most useful ploy the elites have to bring about a controlled decline of the dollar.

The new system will reintroduce the concept of fixed currencies, but this time, all currencies will be fixed or "pegged" to the value of the SDR global basket. The IMF holds a global SDR summit every five years, and the next meeting is set for the beginning of 2015.

If the Chinese yuan is brought into the SDR basket next year, if the BRICS enter into a conjured economic war with the West, and if the dollar is toppled as the world reserve, there will be nothing left in terms of fiscal structure in the way of a global currency system. If the public does not remove the globalist edifice by force, the IMF and the BIS will then achieve their dream - the complete dissolution of economic sovereignty, and the acceptance by the masses of global financial governance. The elites don't want to hide behind the curtain anymore. They want recognition. They want to be worshiped. And, it all begins with the secret buyout of America, the implosion of our debt markets, and the annihilation of our way of life.

http://www.sott.net/article/279489-Who-is-the-new-secret-buyer-of-US-debt

[ThePythonicCow]

Perhaps "Open financial war" is only the cover story??? Long but stick with it as he builds an interesting case.

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Who is the new secret buyer of U.S. debt?

Brandon Smith
Alt-Market.com


Brandon Smith, on Alt-Market.com, is one of the best analysts active right now.

Here's a link to his original posting of the above article, where you can find more of his work:
Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt? (Alt-Market.com; 21 May 2014; Brandon Smith) (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2145-who-is-the-new-secret-buyer-of-us-debt)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The G10 nations have all agreed to participate in a "General Arrangement to Borrow" (GAB) launched in 1962 by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The GAB is designed as an ever cycling fund which members pay into. In times of emergency, members can ask the IMF's permission for a release of funds. If the IMF agrees, it then injects capital through Treasury purchases and SDR allocations. Essentially, the IMF takes our money, then gives it back to us in times of desperation (with strings attached).

Feels accurate to me.

I'll bet "strings attached" include (in the following order):


Confiscation of all firearms.
Destruction of whatever remains of the Bill Of Rights.
Implementation of Agenda 21, or something similar, with many families removed from privately owned rural properties, then herded into cities where control is more efficient.
Depopulation as needed for those who Kissinger described as "useless eaters".


The most important issue is, what can we do (or best not do) to create what we want instead of what the control freaks want? If we *only* focus on what the control freaks want, our creative imaginations may be supporting that reality.

Wish I had the right answers.

[TargeT]

Perhaps "Open financial war" is only the cover story??? Long but stick with it as he builds an interesting case.

_________________


Who is the new secret buyer of U.S. debt?

Brandon Smith
Alt-Market.com


Brandon Smith, on Alt-Market.com, is one of the best analysts active right now.

Here's a link to his original posting of the above article, where you can find more of his work:
Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt? (Alt-Market.com; 21 May 2014; Brandon Smith) (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2145-who-is-the-new-secret-buyer-of-us-debt)


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