UFOs & Animal Mutilations

[Gita]

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‘Farmers near Shrewsbury claim to have witnessed sheep being “lasered” by unidentified light from UFOs.
They have linked the unexplained incidents, where sheep’s brains and eyes were removed, to the mysterious orange lights in the sky.’

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Full Article Here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/7555431/Unexplained-sheep-attacks-caused-by-aliens-in-UFOs-farmers-claim.html)

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[stardustaquarion]

Thank you for the link Gita, it makes you wonder whatever next when the main stream media is talking about these things. I found an article about spies in the BBC this morning....

Love

[Gita]

Yea, seen the article - thanks. Can't help but feel the animal mutilation in Shrewsbury may be the work of the 'secret' military?!

[stardustaquarion]

Yea, seen the article - thanks. Can't help but feel the animal mutilation in Shrewsbury may be the work of the 'secret' military?!

It is possible, the strange thing is that I don't think is that common here in the UK?

Love

[Gita]

It is possible, they strange thing is that I don't think is that common here in the UK?

Love

That is so sad. No wonder friendly ETs stay away from us!! :rolleyes:

[Majorion]

I've heard identical accounts of the very same thing. The "orange" orb-like ufos, abducting cows, consuming cow matter like a source of energy, and even the part about laser beams. I remember even seeing a video of this exact type thing, a woman photographing from her window, you could spot the lasers and one of the animals in focus just disappears. I'm not sure if were a hoax, after all it was one of these same UK news sites, Daily Mail or something. But no, my impression isn't Military, yet I don't equate this to malevolance even if it were aliens. Don't humans kill and eat cows too? what would that make us? - that's like saying a dinasour is evil just because its carniverous by nature. Some Hindus consider cows sacred and even worship them, what do you think their reaction would be?

You'd think the laser would point to human origin, but lets not forget the story from Corso, that lasers (among other technologies) were developed by seeding parts (and subsequently back engineering) of the Roswell craft through private industry.

[Gita]

I've heard identical accounts of the very same thing. The "orange" orb-like ufos, abducting cows, consuming cow matter like a source of energy, and even the part about laser beams. I remember even seeing a video of this exact type thing, a woman photographing from her window, you could spot the lasers and one of the animals in focus just disappears. I'm not sure if were a hoax, after all it was one of these same UK news sites, Daily Mail or something. But no, my impression isn't Military, yet I don't equate this to malevolance even if it were aliens. Don't humans kill and eat cows too? what would that make us? - that's like saying a dinasour is evil just because its carniverous by nature. Some Hindus consider cows sacred and even worship them, what do you think their reaction would be?

You'd think the laser would point to human origin, but lets not forget the story from Corso, that lasers (among other technologies) were developed by seeding parts (and subsequently back engineering) of the Roswell craft through private industry.

Ok Maj – I’m intrigued to know what impression you get from this? I also hear what you say about ETs needing energy and how people eat animals here on Earth. Yet in my view, the difference is that people don’t hide this fact and don’t abduct animals in secret to get their energy but yet these ETs have a need to resort to theft! :laugh:

Also, I’m a vegan and from a vegan’s point of view (based on cherishing all life), benevolent beings would not have the need for living energy as they would have to resort to taking another being’s life in order to sustain themselves. This action alone does not place them as coming from a place of ‘goodness’.

[Majorion]

Well I can't argue with a vegan, you guys have an inherent bias! :p

[Gita]

Well I can't argue with a vegan, you guys have an inherent bias! :p

Yep.:p

Still interested in what your impression is?

[Majorion]

Seriously, the fact is we just don't know what they would be using animals for, for all you know; maybe this species' very survival may be dependent on extracting organs from this particular animal, for all you know this alien species could have created the animal for themselves to serve whatever purpose, maybe its the way our planet controls life population and balance, maybe these aliens are as much native to this planet as we are. All I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily mean they are hostile or malevolent, simply because we don't understand them.

I don't know what this represents, but I said my impression isn't military, because when you really think about it, it doesn't make much sense for military units to be going out in people's farms and covertly abducting or mutilating animals. If the argument is genetic experiments, then you'd think with all that black budget funding they'd be supplied for huge facilities would also cover the farm expense, I'd imagine they'd have their own stock of animals. Besides, there doesn't seem anything indicative of military, other than the rare report of a black helicopter at the scene chasing a ufo or something.

My impression is of an alien explanation behind these cases.

[stardustaquarion]

Also, I’m a vegan and from a vegan’s point of view (based on cherishing all life), benevolent beings would not have the need for living energy as they would have to resort to taking another being’s life in order to sustain themselves. This action alone does not place them as coming from a place of ‘goodness’.

Gita, from the point of view of the freedom teachings that is correct, I have been told that advanced beings have a healthy DNA and therefore the live from light, no need for food.

I have been told that humans at the begining were bretharians too but that makes sense to me because our body does not seem to be the most efficient eater and fruits seems to be the food that can digest the best

:popcorn: with coconut oil is ok ;)

Love

[Swami]

More mutilations here (http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/04/unexplained-sheep-attacks-caused-by.html)......:(

[Majorion]

I can only imagine Richard Hoagland reporting on this one, probably titled:

"Hyperdimensional Cattle Mutilation Test??? at 19.5??!!...or...NAZI Secret Space Program Torsion Physics Occult Sacrifice Experiment??!!"

lol, it really wouldn't be surprise me.

[Gita]

Maj - I’ve read of many accounts that they use them for different things such as genetic manipulations, reproduction and the most reported one is for the cerebral fluid. We also cannot rule out the ‘secret’ military as they may be doing genetic experimentations of their own and/or doing the dirty work for the ETs. Not to mention that they operate in this way to throw in confusion and misinformation. Nothing can be ruled out really and it’s quite possible that we may never know but it’s always fun to speculate. My instincts tell me is both military and malevolent ETs - course I can never prove it nor do I have a need to but I always go with my feelings as they have served me well. Questioning it just throws in doubt so I just go with it. It’s all fun and games hey?:wink:

[Lucrum]

Gita, from the point of view of the freedom teachings that is correct, I have been told that advanced beings have a healthy DNA and therefore the live from light, no need for food.

I have been told that humans at the begining were bretharians too but that makes sense to me because our body does not seem to be the most efficient eater and fruits seems to be the food that can digest the best

:popcorn: with coconut oil is ok ;)

Love

Regardless of where humans might have been sometime in the past, I can't but disagree that fruit IS the food we humans digest best.
To elaborate, I take myself as an example. I rarely eat fruit anymore, because it makes me feel ill. I get strong acidbursts from it and heavy stomache ache.
It also seems I have a hard time digesting at least certain types of grain and I react a little negatively to lactose.

My conclusion from this isn't one that says humans can't live as vegans or maybe without food alltogether, but that we are very different every single one of us.

So to come back to the original question about possible alien life behind these abductions and mutilations, I'm not all that into the notion that advanced alien life absolutely has to be of divine nature.
Some races may very well be, but if you think about it...if you can accept or play with the idea that at least some of the human technology advances come from extraterrestrial beings, well who's to say other lifeforms haven't gotten this helping hand...accidental or not?

We can't say all humans that would take a life (not human) is a malevolent being, it would be highly unfair.
So why not alien races as well?

[bashi]

We can't say all humans that would take a life (not human) is a malevolent being, it would be highly unfair.


Why would it be highly unfair. Because of acidburst or stomach ache?

[Dougall]

remote surgery practice aircraft to ground via laser.
It could be a science class for a Military Team, or an Old School Off World Teacher.
I think any livestock abductions are rendered for sustenance.

[lisa]

Phoenix Journal 9 said that the animal mutilations were done by satanic humans who need the organs for satanic rituals and spells. I do not recommend Journal 9 because it is extremely disturbing. It said:


In satanic religion, the sex organs are supposed to contain power. Satanism is a religion based on the hedonism and the belief that the release of sexual energy is one way for you to reach a higher consciousness.


The occultists will stun the animal on his back with a high powered electric probe which incapacitates the animal. Then they will spray freon on the animal's throat. The animal is living, but unable to respond. The heart continues to function. They then use an embalming tool (pump) to get the blood out. It is fast and most efficient. Often a farmer can make it to the scene within a few minutes for there is often noise and cries from the animals. Within a matter of some three minutes a body can be evacuated of blood.

The Journal quoted a 1979 police report from a female higher echelon member of a satanic worshiping cult (headquartered in Tulsa, Oklahoma):


They also removed the cow's eyes, tongue, sex organs and sometimes the udder.


She related the cult she belonged to was quite wealthy and had a helicopter and several van type trucks which were used in obtaining the organs and blood needed from the cows to be used in their rituals. She also stated that doctors, lawyers, veterinarians and other prominent persons belonged to this cult and were all taught by doctors and vets how to precisely cut the parts needed and exactly where to stick the needle to draw out the blood.

The blood was put into gallon jugs and kept cool for baptizing new cult members. They were baptized in the same manner in which most churches do except the baptismal vat would be filled with blood which had been extracted from the animals. The eyes taken were boiled and eaten by the cult members at rituals. The sex organs were used in the rituals, also, because the cult believes in free sex to everyone.

When using the helicopter they sometimes picked up the cow by using a home made belt type sling and one man could go down and fasten it around the cow and they could move it and drop it further down from where the mutilations occurred. This would account for there being no footprints or tracks.

When using the van trucks they could also have a telescoping lift which was about 200 feet in length mounted outside the truck and would use that to extend a man out to the cow, and he would mutilate it from a board platform on the end of the boom and would never touch the ground. The apparatus would telescope back into the vehicle much as a wheelchair lift and not be noticed.

She stated that they love the publicity that surrounds the mutilations, and as long as the publicity is in one area they will keep returning because they like to baffle law enforcement.

I would expect the mutilation procedures to be more high tech nowadays (from 30 years ago).

[bashi]

The cult or secret government organisation explanation is always not adding up. The resources needed to maintain a cattle breeding station are far less than all the action.
And still they will get the publicity. :no:

I think most likely its a deliberate attempt by gov to blackmail ET.

[lisa]

The cult or secret government organisation explanation is always not adding up. The resources needed to maintain a cattle breeding station are far less than all the action.
This is assuming that the satanists function like normal people. :eek:

[HORIZONS]

I think most likely its a deliberate attempt by gov to blackmail ET.

Makes sense! -- A way to control popular opinion.

[lisa]

The government is pretty sick then...

"The cow's genitals and udder are missing, the flesh part of its head is stripped to the bone and the tongue is gone."
Source: http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2009/08/mutilated-cow-investigated-coyotes.html

[Lucrum]

Why would it be highly unfair. Because of acidburst or stomach ache?

You would think, wouldn't you? :P

No, but seriously...taking a life would have to cover any life, and that down to even the plants around us or bacteria for that matter.
Gaia gives and Gaia takes, and as long as we try to adhere to the rules of nature there is no wrong in accepting what we are given.

I'm not saying I would take an animal life (mammal) and I try to honor most living beings around me whenever I can. However I would not concider myself malevolent if the day should come that I would have to take said life to ensure my own survival.
It wouldn't feel good, that's just who I am...but I would do it either way.

It's one hard topic to explain without going all wall of text, as it really is a little more colorful than just: to do or not to do. :)

By all means Bashi, I fully respect the life and choices everyone make...as they are just that: Our own choice

Somewhat sliding off course here though, so might be best to kick it back on topic! :D

[Gita]

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UFO Expert Investigating Colorado Cow Mutilations

'Authorities in Colorado's San Luis Valley are trying to solve a series of bizarre, gruesome slaying: cows, mutilated, carved up, left to die in the fields. Police are stumped. But rancher Mike Duran, who lost two of his cows to mutilation last December, has a theory that is literally out of this world. He says it was aliens.

"It's almost like the animal was taken away, killed, surgically manipulated and brought back," Duran told us. Some of the wounds on one cow were "like laser cuts," he said. "There was no blood. No tracks. No witnesses at all".'

Some of the wounds on one cow were "like laser cuts," he said. "There was no blood. No tracks. No witnesses at all."

"Some people say it was a cult. But even if it was a cult, we would find tracks or something like that."

In Duran's mind, that leaves only one other option.

"I believe there are aliens. People may laugh at me for thinking that," Duran said. "(The aliens) do what they have to, and then they bring (the cows) back and they drop them back in the field. And that's why there are no tracks."

Duran is not alone.

"The (female cow's) sexual organs were removed, the eyes were removed, a tongue was removed," said Chuck Zukowski, a self-described UFO investigator and reserve El Paso County Sheriff's deputy, who is trying to solve Duran's case.

"The pattern is that of surgical cuts. There are no bite marks. There are no scratch marks. There's no carnage on the ground...It's as if it was under surgery."

Duran says he found a powerful electromagnetic field coming from one of the cow's carved-out head, only adding to his suspicions that aliens are to blame.

"In my opinion, this is probably one of the best cold cases we have," Duran says.

The Colorado Department of Agriculture, however, doesn't buy the extraterrestrial theory.

"Postmortem changes on an animal happen very fast," said Nick Striegel, a veterinarian with the department. "Predators are coming in...they can lick up that blood. Insects and other parts of the decomposing process can digest body fluids."

If not predators, Striegel says it is also possible that people could be involved.

You be the judge.


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Article and Vid here. (http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-alien-cows-txt%2C0%2C5016258.story?track=rss)

[Craig]

My first ever reply, so please forgive any mistakes

There could be the possibility that it is a miltary backed op, but the absolute lack of collateral damage to the cow and surroundings would negate that thought. If a mosque was blown up as well then yes, American Military.

But I am now thinking it is for some upcoming MasterChef episodes, I can't wait to see them cry for this one.

[Gita]

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Animal mutilations linked to UFOs says Walsall man

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Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

A Walsall man has told BBC WM that aliens and UFOs are responsible for a string of animal attacks in the UK.

Mike Freebury, a member of the Animal Pathology Field Unit, has investigated the mystery of 'cattle mutilations' for a number of years.

The phenomenon, first reported in America in the 1970s, involves the unexplained deaths of rural animals.

The bodies are often discovered with missing limbs and organs, removed with surgical precision.

Mike says that the illegal attacks are also happening in Britain - and UFOs are responsible.

"Certainly, in my opinion, the UFOs are something that relates directly to the animal mutilations," he told BBC WM presenter Brett Birks.

"They're often seen around the areas where mutilations are taking place. I think that the animal mutilations are possibly some sort of sampling programme being carried out by the entities that are propelling these crafts."

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Continued here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/blackcountry/hi/tv_and_radio/newsid_8718000/8718028.stm)

[RedeZra]

maybe someone are making abominators

[Gita]

maybe someone are making abominators

:blink::blink:

[RedeZra]

frankenstein

perhaps there is a purpose for the organs

that are missing from the animals

or maybe not