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halffull
28th April 2014, 20:27
I need help to identify which country this was filmed in

What I like about this clip is, it will be hard for the people who argue that chemtrails are contrails to look at this and explain.

Contrails only happen at a certain height and this plane is coming into land

Has anyone got more information on where this was filmed?

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Hervé
28th April 2014, 20:49
I guess these people have never seen a jet plane land in heavy fog... ahhh, Gootube... yucks!

Chip
28th April 2014, 20:53
Yes, this is an easy one?
Not chemtrails!
Note the high moisture content of the air. I have seen this many times. Many many many times!
These are simply vortices of pressurized air containing high moisture content coming from areas of the aircraft that produce the highest drag at low airspeed.
This aircraft is not spraying chemicals.

Bob
28th April 2014, 21:36
Fog foggy and more fog..

" essentially fog is a cloud on the ground which reduces visibility to less than 1km. The basic requirements for fog to form are moisture in the air – the closer to 100% humidity the better, and the air near the ground must be cooling to within 5 F (3 C) of dew point – this is the temperature to which air must be cooled in order for water vapor in the air to condense to liquid water. When the air near the ground cools to dew point, the water vapor in the air will become visible as fog in the air or dew on the ground.

Fogs during summer will only happen with clear skies and near 100% humidity. There must also be condensation nuclei – or something onto which the water can condense. Condensation nuclei can be dust particles, aerosols, pollutants etc. When the air is saturated, additional moisture will condense onto this nuclei. Fog so often forms after sunset because that is when the air begins to cool and condensation replaces evaporation. Air cools best with clear skies as there are no clouds to trap the heat.

Fog can form at lower humidity levels if there are a really large amount of nuclei, especially if it is something such as salt.

During the summer, if there is a storm which includes hail, a phenomenon called hail fog can form. It is usually a shallow layer of fog above the ground. It forms because of increased moisture and cold air coming in contact with the warm ground.

During fall and early winter the most common form of fog is radiation fog. This type of fog forms when the land cools after sunset by radiating the heat up into the atmosphere. The air must be calm and the skies clear, again because cloud cover will trap heat in. When the ground is cool, it will cause condensation in the air above it. The more calm the air, the lower the fog is, under ideal conditions, the fog may only be a meter deep. Air movement will produce a thicker fog. Radiation fog can occur throughout the night but rarely lasts long after sunrise."

ref: http://starryskies.com/articles/2007/10/fog.html

ref: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=314427

"Exhaust gases contain water but are not pure steam. If you cool undiluted exhaust enough, the water will condense and be visible as mist. Hot exhaust gas can mix with air and be diluted faster than it cools so that the dew point of the exhaust is never reached. That is, the dew point of the exhaust falls faster than the temperature when mixing with air, if the temperature starts high enough. Dew point is a function of water concentration and temperature."

ref: http://userpages.umbc.edu/~tokay/chapter5new.html - Contrail: are formed by mixing hot and humid exhaust and dry and cold ambient air.

Adding humidity to a saturated system (fog at dewpoint), plus evaporative expansion cooling, and you get clouds, more fog.. vortexes form from spinning turbine exhaust, or from wing-tip vortexes a property of moving air over a wing..


http://www.flytime.ca/files/2013/05/wingtip_vortices_flyingindiancom.jpg

Cloud in a bottle demonstration -


http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/earth-atmospheric-and-planetary-sciences/12-003-atmosphere-ocean-and-climate-dynamics-fall-2008/labs/cloud_in_bottle.jpg

DeDukshyn
28th April 2014, 22:39
Even F1 race cars create vapour trails in high humidity ... The exacts same effect, just a smaller scale.

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/modules/ew_filemanager/06images/irl/06/honda/watkinsglen/hornish-contrails.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51997000/jpg/_51997610_spain1991_640.jpg

Gerald Paris
28th April 2014, 22:48
Decent! Thanks for sharing

naste.de.lumina
28th April 2014, 23:05
Even F1 race cars create vapour trails in high humidity ... The exacts same effect, just a smaller scale.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51997000/jpg/_51997610_spain1991_640.jpg

This red and white car is the McLaren piloted by the late Ayrton Senna died in Imola, Italy on May 1, 1994.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QO2k6yJilSk/T6ACML5fjqI/AAAAAAAAAho/lwpJQ0l9xFA/s640/AyrtonSenna+rezando+no+carro+f1.jpg

I was his fan.

DeDukshyn
28th April 2014, 23:36
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This red and white car is the McLaren piloted by the late Ayrton Senna died in Imola, Italy on May 1, 1994.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QO2k6yJilSk/T6ACML5fjqI/AAAAAAAAAho/lwpJQ0l9xFA/s640/AyrtonSenna+rezando+no+carro+f1.jpg

I was his fan.

Woah! You know your F1. Small world ... I was just looking for the "contrails" ...

Hervé
29th April 2014, 00:13
Even F1 race cars create vapour trails in high humidity ... The exacts same effect, just a smaller scale.


I was gona add to my post that next these Gootube folks are gona blame F1 racing cars for chemtrailing but, then, I thought no one would get it... glad you did though :)

Sidney
29th April 2014, 00:24
I can see how one might think it was cheming.(I know, not really a word.lol) But with all that fog, it makes sense that is it moisture.

gittarpikk
29th April 2014, 00:25
I am so glad an proud to see so many people on Avalon that know and recognize normal clues like heavy humidity/moisture and what it does in things like tip vortices instead of thinking everything is a chemtrail.

With out a doubt there are weather modification planes...and they do use them... but my pilot buddy (retired military and civilian states that a passenger plane could not carry enough chemical to spray a chem trail from horizon to horizon... and they certainly dont have the time to go land and load up a new load all dau long so they can 'get up there with all the rest of em spraying'

waaay too much hoopla and disinformation out there about chemtrails...Its just that everytime we get a day where moisture is heavy at altitude....we get lots of thick contrails,,, and even more posts about how bad the chemtrails were that day..

now the only train of thought i seen that was really valid is the UN lady/member that brought it out that the trails turn into clouds...and THAT was actually creating a greenhouse effect and therefore affecting global warming.....imho

Carmody
29th April 2014, 02:23
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This red and white car is the McLaren piloted by the late Ayrton Senna died in Imola, Italy on May 1, 1994.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QO2k6yJilSk/T6ACML5fjqI/AAAAAAAAAho/lwpJQ0l9xFA/s640/AyrtonSenna+rezando+no+carro+f1.jpg

I was his fan.

Woah! You know your F1. Small world ... I was just looking for the "contrails" ...

It is interesting to note that both the people who where at the scene of Ayrton's accident are largely dead. The best report came from Schumacher. First Ayrton nearly lost it with Schumacher behind him. Second time he tries it faster (which was typical Aryrton foolishness, which cost him his life), with Schumacher behind him again. This time he loses it.... and dies.

Now Schumacher is probably not going to ever be conscious again. (One dead, the other in a Coma)

naste.de.lumina
29th April 2014, 21:39
It is interesting to note that both the people who where at the scene of Ayrton's accident are largely dead. The best report came from Schumacher. First Ayrton nearly lost it with Schumacher behind him. Second time he tries it faster (which was typical Aryrton foolishness, which cost him his life), with Schumacher behind him again. This time he loses it.... and dies.

Now Schumacher is probably not going to ever be conscious again. (One dead, the other in a Coma)

Ayrton Senna
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