Why gold is being bought up / Sumerian device?

[Chakra]

Any one heard about this one?

Former CIA NSA Expert Discusses Upcoming Alien UFO Disclosure by US Government


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HVabCRdLnQ&NR=1

[Ki's]

This sounds interesting...any other details or web site? (or am I missing something somewhere?)

[Lita]

Interesting, want to hear more..

[sjkted]

I'll be the first to call BS on this.

First of all, TPTB are not trying to save the world or humanity, otherwise they would not be destroying it. This reminds me of the mainstream movie 2012, where the elite all board up the arks in order to save civilization. In watching the movie, one comes to the conclusion that they are very self-serving people, but that they are trying to do the right thing. When looking at what's really happening, that is simply not the truth.

Second, gold prices are jumping because people are scared of inflation and being able to keep a stable value on their savings. The people who are buying gold jewelry in bulk are aware of the increasing demand, and just fulfilling a market purpose (although sometimes not completely above board) to buy gold at a lower price and "flip" it -- no different from the recent housing boom.

Keeping this in mind, if they wanted to buy up all the gold and they have all the money and power in the world, it would only make sense that they would buy it all up at $300/oz. instead of waiting until today when it's almost $1400/oz, considering that any sane person with the right information available could conclude that the price of gold relative to dollars would jump.

--sjkted

[Swami]

Anybody ever had this thought...?

Like Human Beings, Mother Earth is a living entity.
What will happen to Human Beings when they get an enormous shortage of minerals and spores in their bodies...???

[Lost Soul]

Z. Stetchin or someone else mentioned that gold was needed to clean their atmosphere. Now, as to Swami's issue of the raping of earth, she's going to get rid of the pestilence before the pestilence kills her.

[Kra]

I'll be the first to call BS on this.

And i'll be the second.

[Fredkc]

Ok, 4:30 into it, and what I am hearing so far amounts to a straight line drawn through several stories, mixing in known technologies;
Anunaki human breeding program,
The Sumerian scrolls,
ELF control of weather, earthquakes, moving objects, etc... see: HAARP,
.....
Then comes Nibiru (Jury is still waaaaaaaay out there for me, on this one)
and the notion the machine described had been built. 4:47 in
....
Now the notion that TPTB are scared over a deadline of 12/2012.

At this point, his history and technology gets sketchy.
I am also 8:40 into it, and I still do not know what this "terrible thing" is that has TPTB all scared.

Ok, finished. I still don't know what this "terrible thing" coming is.
Still no clue how hording gold, by TPTB, is going to prevent this.

The idea of not telling the public, yet scooping up all their gold is not logical, in fact self-defeating. WWII demonstrated that people will supply anything needed to fend off a genuine, or believed threat. Making everyone 'poor' will do exactly the opposite. Anyone smart enough to "rule the world" for 1000's of years without being discovered is going to understand that...

Is there a part 2 yet? Part 1 has too many loose ends.
Fred

[bashi]

BS

Here another vid from the Jack of all trades, master of none:

This time as a "russian scientist"


dm146T4gH1g

[ngogly]

If the next whistle blower starts that he is special this or that, he had above top secret clearance or is just connected to many three letter organizations ... It turns my brain traffic lights from green to yellow. It is possible of course but by statistical probability we should have 1 special op top secret consultant man to 100+ "I'm ex dishwasher from secret base and ... ".

Special consultant? Consultant is consultant, why to emphasize that he is special? Because he must become authority and superior to you before he can sell mental crap.

Doctor of interstellar anthropology? OK, some new profession we are not aware of but why is this man used by CIA and NSA as expert on ancient Sumer and expert on archeological artifacts?

His basic task was to tell to government how the excavated device works. As you mention he is even smarter than we thought. When he studied interstellar anthropology, he become the most wanted expert on ancient Sumer as hobby and by night he was sleeping books about physics under cushion.

My light was already orange but after hearing magical trigger word "crystal" without any connection to overall story, my light switched to red.

Now, bad Saddam was killed not because elite wanted to conquer his land but because Saddam was close to use wunder weapon. Finally they found weapons of mass destruction but can reveal it only on YouTube. Spread the word.

Lecturer starts to forget what he told minute ago. Now he was providing information to government where to find the device and how to remove it. Before he claimed that he was introduced to project because archeologists find a device and government wanted to know how it works.

Follows standard part about Annunaki and 2012. Then the bomb, if international criminals (supported by images on video) can't fire up this device, we are doomed. At that point I laugh and wonder how stupid mus the listener be and was the film maker exceeded his capacity? Criminal = victim, where I saw it before?

At moment he is wanted around the world and elite wants to kill him but again, they have no quality assassins. They destroyed his lab, work and records. Elite wants it dead but only messes with his stuff. I tell you, if I want to kill, I kill and then clean the stuff. Someone who uses internet, credit card, transport and so on, can be found by hours in every corner of western world.

Buy gold, buy gold. Was it used before big depression? Yes but people who remember it are all dead. It's stupidity to state that government wants to buy gold if they manipulate prices up? They have all chances to manipulate prices down and buy it.

He didn't tell to government the important part of Sumer legend which helps to decode working principles of device. Is Sitchin dead or maybe they can't find him? :D

Oehh, day after day stories go more and more stupid and primitive. Is it possible that listeners are stupid enough to swallow low quality lies and no one produces quality lies anymore?

[Chakra]

If the next whistle blower starts that he is special this or that, he had above top secret clearance or is just connected to many three letter organizations ... It turns my brain traffic lights from green to yellow. It is possible of course but by statistical probability we should have 1 special op top secret consultant man to 100+ "I'm ex dishwasher from secret base and ... ".

Oehh, day after day stories go more and more stupid and primitive. Is it possible that listeners are stupid enough to swallow low quality lies and no one produces quality lies anymore?

Certainly got you riled up enough apparently, you gave so much time and effort to meticulously discounting the entire video.

You made though one rather large error in your last assessment - that someone posting a video, questioning it's source in the process of researching disclosure amounts to the same thing as actually believing it.

I will definitely give much consideration to the 'listeners are stupid enough' observation.
Though again probably not... considering the overall tone of your 'expert' assessment.

[Chakra]

Ok, 4:30 into it, and what I am hearing so far amounts to a straight line drawn through several stories, mixing in known technologies;
Anunaki human breeding program,
The Sumerian scrolls,
ELF control of weather, earthquakes, moving objects, etc... see: HAARP,
.....
Then comes Nibiru (Jury is still waaaaaaaay out there for me, on this one)
and the notion the machine described had been built. 4:47 in
....
Now the notion that TPTB are scared over a deadline of 12/2012.

At this point, his history and technology gets sketchy.
I am also 8:40 into it, and I still do not know what this "terrible thing" is that has TPTB all scared.

Ok, finished. I still don't know what this "terrible thing" coming is.
Still no clue how hording gold, by TPTB, is going to prevent this.

The idea of not telling the public, yet scooping up all their gold is not logical, in fact self-defeating. WWII demonstrated that people will supply anything needed to fend off a genuine, or believed threat. Making everyone 'poor' will do exactly the opposite. Anyone smart enough to "rule the world" for 1000's of years without being discovered is going to understand that...Is there a part 2 yet? Part 1 has too many loose ends.
Fred

Hi Fred
Thank you for your input - I was interested in particularly from a stand point of the device that was mentioned - I believe it was John Urwins story I had listened to just recently regard black boxes they had been secretly trained to recover.
These boxes sounded like they might have been made from Obsidian - black glassy like if I recall correctly. Obsidian glass is used in the occult. Black crystal balls etc. One other use is as mirrors. Nostradamus I believe used such a mirror to read/see the future.

A possible extraordinary need for gold could be in the creation of the clones. That is apparently used for their wiring. It would be interesting to know if the gold that disappeared from the World Trade Centre vaults was a sort of down payment. And if the FED's gold supply is actually gone.

In relationship to Sitchen's claim for the Annunaki need for gold is interesting angle as well - gold as an element is incredibly unique in it purity.

IF - let's for arguments sake suggest that they had to activate this device by 2012 my feelings are that it would soully be for saving their own necks.

I personally don't feel 2012 will have negative effect for those that are in alignment with the 'will of the cosmos' and that the return pulse of light that we are moving into will clean up / burn up a lot of the negative energy or karma that now exists. Sooo if one IS at the soul level - of darkness?
What are you going to do to shield yourself in 'purity'?

Just one possible theory anyways....:cool:

For the sake of clarity - my posting something for discussion is just that - for discussion.
I have no attachment to any of it - either way all is an illusion. :p

[cloud9]

It's a nice story but I don't believe any of it and in the second video he has a nice "russian" accent.

[cloud9]

It's a nice story but I don't believe any of it and in the second video he says he's Russian", well, what a nice "russian" accent.

[Vangelo]

Hi All,

I'm new to the forum and do not yet have the authorization to create a new thread so I decided to post it here with the hope a moderator will organize it as appropriate.

I was wondering if there has been any discussion about Andrew Maguire and the manipulation of the precious metals market by JP Morgan Chase? The potential impact of this manipulation has been described by some as the largest financial fraud in human history and has the potential of collapsing the economy of the US.

This website gives a great overview of the issue:

http://www.chroniclewatch.com/2010/04/16/who-is-andrew-maguire-hint-jp-morgan/

Regards,
Vangelo

[Vangelo]

Hi All,

Here is a very good series of youtube videos that describe what is going on with this silver fraud and the impact on China. It seems the authors of the videos wanted to appeal to the lowest common denominator so they include bathroom humor, please ignore that - the content is worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl47z2g2EvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPg4qTNTP-E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AId_UiPtPpQ&feature=related

Regards,
Vangelo

[Vangelo]

Hi All,

I'm new to the forum and do not yet have the authorization to create a new thread so I decided to post it here with the hope a moderator will organize it as appropriate.

I was wondering if there has been any discussion about Andrew Maguire and the manipulation of the precious metals market by JP Morgan Chase? The potential impact of this manipulation has been described by some as the largest financial fraud in human history and has the potential of collapsing the economy of the US.

This website gives a great overview of the issue:

http://www.chroniclewatch.com/2010/04/16/who-is-andrew-maguire-hint-jp-morgan/

Regards,
Vangelo

OOOOooops - I just saw that I should have submitted this in the General Discussion thread. Please forgive me.

[str8thinker]

This is exactly the same video that was the subject of this earlier thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9275).

I remember this because I replied to the earlier one pointing out the ridiculousness of his degree in "interstellar anthropology". Even Bill Ryan regards this as a hoax.

May I suggest the mods merge the two threads, then delete this post to save space.

[the_flyingboy]

i found this video in youtube a while ago and downloaded it to my pc since then it has disappeared from youtube and today thanks to a couple of friends here (isoslot,witchy1)who really wanted to see and which i couldn't email it to them due to its size so here it is for every one to see here and youtube.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWENEvroNM

[the_flyingboy]

i want to apologise to a friend (Isostool) for getting her name wrong..sorry

[johnf]

Really high quality acoustics compared to most videos on the internet.

[Ahkenaten]

oops sounds kinda like Aaron McCollum........

[TWINNICK]

No I don't think it sounds like Aron.

But it does sound like the device or key which Charles has spoken about, not to mention the 33 who wish to control it.

if this bloke is right i certainly hope he has got the most important part hidden very well.

Maybe Charles got it from him, and I do believe the attack on Iraq was because of this prior knowlage not because of the reasons they have told the world.

I hope this guy is still alive and well, maybe he can get more info out to us somehow.

..Nick..

[daledo]

oops sounds kinda like Aaron McCollum........

This is Yajweh that has uoloaded alot of videos on Vincent Delgato's youtube channel. HERE (http://www.youtube.com/user/vincedelgato#p/u) There was some talk about him on an earlier post. I have no idea where he gets his info from but I read on one of the youtube comments (don't think it was Vincent's channel) that it was his cousin. He has a great radio voice and sounds knowledgeable but I have no idea.

[Isostool]

BS

Here another vid from the Jack of all trades, master of none:

This time as a "russian scientist"


dm146T4gH1g

NO where in this video does the person speaking claim to be a Russian scientist. The person who uploaded it, called it that. NOT the person speaking.

[Anchor]

i want to apologise to a friend (Isostool) for getting her name wrong..sorry

The edit button will allow you to fix that :)

[witchy1]

This certainly resonates with me- the bit about the box being found anyway....The return of the Annunaki next year - let me think on that. I have a sneaky suspicion about something..... hahahaha that got you guessing :-)

Addit: Does anyone know where part 2 is and what date this was produced. Also does anyone know of a science lab exploding at a university in the last few years...

[str8thinker]

This BS has now appeared in 4 places on the Avalon forum:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9275
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12220-Charles-his-Master-and-the-Machine&p=135786&viewfull=1#post135786
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1399
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7098

Just search for "interstellar anthropology".

[witchy1]

LOL - he does state that he is Russian tho at 3.50min :peep:

W

[ghostrider]

yes mother earth is a living entity, as living beings we are all connected...

[Isostool]

LOL - he does state that he is Russian tho at 3.50min :peep:

W

Yeah, Russian like as in like how Charles is Scottish. Just like I'm Welsh. Doesn't mean I'm gonna walk around speaking with a ****ing Welsh accent.

I don't know. Wierder things have happened than this guy being real, and sometimes people who are not 'real' as such have better information than the so called genuine ones, anyway. If you could call David Wilcock genuine. I'd rather listen to videos of sensible conjecture than websites of suspect metaphysical basis, anyway.