Disclosure: What Government will be the first? [Videos]

[TheTruth]

Asia
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The first lady says she was abducted.


USA
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Answers met with laughter and at the same time, answers deflected

[stardustaquarion]

Very interesting, thank you TheTruth


:wave:

[TheTruth]

No problem stardustaquarion :)

I personally don't think it will be the USA, with all these video interviews, Obama does, in political fashion, twist and deflect an answer to his own agenda.

I'm going to research more about the Japanese First Lady. Please feel free to add your own information too!

[Operator]

In fact Obama's answer is not very well thought through is it ... If there is any solution for earth coming from the visitors we are gonna ignore it because we think we
are smarter and after hundreds of years of doing it our own way we still do not 'get the message' the we are messing up big time ...

A pity that a reaction like the one above was not used to silence the laughter from the audience.

[rosie]

I believe it will be Russia and/or Japan. Then of course the U.S.A. and other countries will say they are all crazy and have no idea what they are talking about.

But,
Japan has a head start! ;)

Japan's new first lady says rode UFO to Venus
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5812DV20090902

love & light

[Swanny]

Why do people laugh at people that claim to have seen a UFO??
You would have to be stupid not to believe in the possibility of aliens visiting this planet.

[Swami]

I believe it will be Russia and/or Japan. Then of course the U.S.A. and other countries will say they are all crazy and have no idea what they are talking about.

But,
Japan has a head start! ;)

Japan's new first lady says rode UFO to Venus
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5812DV20090902


love & light


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kgWmoYJGX4
:eek:

[stardustaquarion]

Why do people laugh at people that claim to have seen a UFO??
You would have to be stupid not to believe in the possibility of aliens visiting this planet.

Maybe they are afraid, I have seen crowds brushing down things with laughter when they don't know how to react. It seem to be a crowd thing

:wave:

[Majorion]

It seems likely that other "more open" governments such as that of Brazil, or France, or Russia, have always been waiting for the U.S to make that big call, they've been waiting for the main source of the cover up to come out and admit it first. Relying on the U.S government to some day "disclose" is arguably frivolous, there have been no indications that any political stance has changed on the matter, the U.S media seldom report it, and even when they do its still the ridicule game. Frankly, we don't need an authority to establish any truth, especially when they are the same folks still actively suppressing the truth.

[Swanny]

After lying to us for so long it's going to be hard to explain why they didn't disclose before.

"Um well we wanted to make sure they were nice aliens before we brought them to meet you......." :)

[rosie]

Disclosure must come from the heart. It must be "believed" by who ever is going to disclose it. For them to believe, they must have their own personal experience, or proof. Because of this, it will not be happening soon.

So, the E.T's must gather all the heads of state together and beam them up, to prove themselves real. As in all of earths history, people will only believe that which fits within their heart sense, and only people who have allowed them selves to continue to dream, will allow this new information in.

The ones with a closed mind (most people I know) will never, ever, allow their thinking to expand to the fullness of a living universe, so they cannot help but see just what is in front of them, never mind what could be beyond them. Their memories have not been activated yet, they have nothing to relate to, when it comes to thinking "outside" the box.

What I see happening now, is major money being made by some who insist they are in contact, and this upsets me very much. They say they are fighting for disclosure, but there is nothing to be disclosed, as it is not a secret, the mainstream know of it, it is in the news and all over Youtube, and for me, I believe 100%. I do not need anyone or anybody acknowledging what I already know to be true. I certainly don't need or want my governments approval on what I believe in. That is between me, myself, and I.

Time to stop waiting, and time to start living within our own truths, with complete faith in them, no matter what the government decides to do.

love & light

[mike1414]

i struggle with the fact that there has to be ''official'' disclosure in the first place....i believe everybody deep down, when given the info about the size of the cosmos..it is blindly looking in the other direction to not admit that the possibility of other intelligences somewhere out there is so massive its pretty laughable to think otherwise. cognitive dissonance is a big problem....people know theres something...but rather wouldnt know and carry on with the biggest, fattest elephant in the room smiling at you

http://images.clipartof.com/small/36630-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Peaceful-Elephant-Smiling-And-Gesturing-The-Peace-Sign-With-His-Hand.jpg

realistically speaking what has happened in Japan is a big step on the international front for said ''official disclosure''.....

keep smiling

peace always
mike

[Swanny]

I will believe it when I see something like this in the sky

http://kiwiyogi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/district-9-trailer-grab-1024x550.jpg

Not when some government tells me they are in contact.

[mike1414]

and even then you would prob find the coverage of it would be limited and restricted in some mainstream news....(bbc, cnn, fox..etc..etc..)
what would do it is for everybody to have their own little experience or message or form of confirmation thus eliminating waiting to be told about it by a ''professional'' news reader :)

peace always
mike

[TheTruth]

I don't think anybody is waiting for confirmation of ET existence, but just the Gov to come forward and be straight with us about whats going on and what they have plans for. I have no doubt, that anyone with even a small interest knows that UFOs and Aliens are real. The Gov cannot tell everyone its not real, and to be honest, I don't think they have done. There is just a lot of deflection and 'laughter'.

If Japan comes out fully, the US can't do anything.

[mike1414]

There is just a lot of deflection and 'laughter'.

this is true on a massive scale....to the point of absolute blind madness imo

peace always
mike

[beyondmyctrl]

I don't think anybody is waiting for confirmation of ET existence, but just the Gov to come forward and be straight with us about whats going on and what they have plans for. I have no doubt, that anyone with even a small interest knows that UFOs and Aliens are real.

couldn't have said it better myself. :yo: to you TheTruth

[annemirri]

Disclosure must come from the heart.
It must be "believed" by who ever is going to disclose it.

For them to believe, they must have their own personal experience, or proof. Because of this, it will not be happening soon.

The ones with a closed mind (most people I know) will never, ever, allow their thinking to expand to the fullness of a living universe, so they cannot help but see just what is in front of them, never mind what could be beyond them.

OH ROSIE,
I am like laughing, as I find all that quite funny...amusing,

as yesterday I received a private message from the administrator of this forum
saying that I should write in more GENERAL TERMS,

referring to my " distorted timeline thread",

it would have been like LYING if I had written it in general terms,

all the ufo incidences or investigations just happened to happen on our own farm,
and I have had alien encounters....

-
and that same administrator continued

that by sharing controversial information in last part of evolution
bad karma is incurring !

I guess if that is true, the whole site should be taken down! I got so scared that I deleted my posts...
I will share my own info where no bad karma is occurring.

:confused:

a.

[TheTruth]

I don't understand why you would be told, in effect to be 'quiet' annemirri. I'm confused, this is not the place to be quiet :(

and thanks Mike and Beyond :nod:

[lightblue]

OH ROSIE,
I am like laughing, as I find all that quite funny...amusing,

as yesterday I received a private message from the administrator of this forum
saying that I should write in more GENERAL TERMS,

referring to my " distorted timeline thread",

it would have been like LYING if I had written it in general terms,

all the ufo incidences or investigations just happened to happen on our own farm,
and I have had alien encounters....

-
and that same administrator continued

that by sharing controversial information in last part of evolution
bad karma is incurring !

I guess if that is true, the whole site should be taken down! I got so scared that I deleted my posts...
I will share my own info where no bad karma is occurring.


there was a lady at work, some time ago, who used to come to me and say "guess what i've been told in confidence!!!"...i always begged her not to tell me....
.

best wishes l

[rosie]

annemirri, I too cannot see why you need to "write in general terms"? I will be forthright and say I do not have 100% proof, but I have always been one to think outside the box, and I do believe we are being visited, and abducted.

My father was a police officer, and when I reached the "age" to understand, he began to tell me his stories of the U.F.O.'s in the sky, that most of the policemen saw while on a late night shift, doing their rounds. It became a game to watch the new recruits come back from their shift all google eyed and stammering about what they just saw in the sky's. The "seasoned" cops knew that the report about the U.F.O.'s would disappear, and in doing so, the ones reporting would become quiet, as even most of their families did not believe them.

There was a "silent code" in the police force, do not talk about what you see in the sky's to anyone. They have a reputation to keep for the public, and cannot be heard talking about such things even though they have seen them.

My father was quite happy to forget his sightings after he would tell me about them, he knew if he started going after the rabbit, it would be a very long tunnel to get back out of. His family was more important then trying to prove something that most people would not even talk about.

My mother would not believe my father, that is why he would talk to me, he needed an ear to listen, to get it off his chest.

(sorry for getting off track of the original topic, but wanted annemirri to see this)

love & light

[conk]

The first you hear from the gov'ts about ufos will be that they are attacking us and we need to be fearful. More control over us. Dr. Werner VonBraun predicted this years ago. Just like he predicted oil 'shortages' and Middle Eastern wars.

[Swanny]

Maybe when the truth about 9/11 comes out they will disclose aliens to smoke screen the lie


I'm sure they are saving both for some special occasion :ohwell:

[TheTruth]

I think the aliens will top the 911 truth, but i'm sure no-one will forget

[Fredkc]

My 2 cents worth (and worth every penny):

Government will never, ever, ever reveal any knowledge of UFO's or any kind of cooperation/collusion with them, in a truthful manner.
They can not allow themselves to be seen as that weak.
They can not allow anyone to learn what kind of cooperation they have consented to.
If they did, there would be politicians, and military people hanging from every light post, from Wash. D.C. to San Diego.

What they might do, as pointed out, is to use a staged disclosure to take something else off the TV news. But this is an ace, so deep in the hole, it'd be held back for something REALLY bad, like total worldwide economic collapse. They know they can only pull this trick once, and when they do they will incur the wrath of those they've cooperated with.

That means the only way they can use it again is to say "we lied, bit this time it's real" and they will pay hell for that, too.
____________________________________

Next, "9/11 truth":
Please!
First problem; getting at the truth would require confessions from some 50-100 people, all of whom would rather die than let out even their little part of what really happened. In short, I doubt "the truth" will ever be available.

Second; a personal wild-a$$ed guess, I'd say some 60% of the population knows that what we've been told is a lie. And 80% of those have decided to "settle for it". Meaning they'd rather watch Dancing With The Stars than get all worked up about something like this. Big Lie, and all.

Perhaps its my own pessimism re. my fellow US citizen, but I think they are passed "waking up" (God I hate that term). The best that can be accomplished is getting them enraged, en masse. That will only come about when the TV goes blank, and the grocery stores are empty. And I fear no good will come from that, until it is long over.

But... look on the bright side!! Tomorrow is Wednesday! (Hump day) :)

Fred

[truthseekerdan]

IMHO, don't expect that a big country gov. will disclose first. They are heavily manipulated by the elite...:juggle:
Back in 2003 due to a discovery inside (underground) a mountain, a lesser known country in Europe was ready to disclose to the world however, unfortunately got shut off by you know who. :rolleyes:

If you're interested to find out more click on the image below:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cgTix6hIL._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Transylvanian-Sunrise-Radu-Cinamar/dp/0967816254/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270697000&sr=1-1)

Love & Light,

D.

[Holly Lindin]

Why do people laugh at people that claim to have seen a UFO??
You would have to be stupid not to believe in the possibility of aliens visiting this planet.

And extremely arrogant to think we're the ONLY planet among septillions and septillions of planets, within God knows HOW many galaxies and even UNIVERSES, that have life upon it! It blows my mind that more people aren't open to this or even willing to research/look inside for this information - but it makes me so happy and grateful that there are so many I know who ARE ready and open for it. You among them, of course, Swanny! (And everyone else here on the forum! :))

<3

[Holly Lindin]

Disclosure must come from the heart. It must be "believed" by who ever is going to disclose it. For them to believe, they must have their own personal experience, or proof. Because of this, it will not be happening soon.

So, the E.T's must gather all the heads of state together and beam them up, to prove themselves real. As in all of earths history, people will only believe that which fits within their heart sense, and only people who have allowed them selves to continue to dream, will allow this new information in.

The ones with a closed mind (most people I know) will never, ever, allow their thinking to expand to the fullness of a living universe, so they cannot help but see just what is in front of them, never mind what could be beyond them. Their memories have not been activated yet, they have nothing to relate to, when it comes to thinking "outside" the box.

What I see happening now, is major money being made by some who insist they are in contact, and this upsets me very much. They say they are fighting for disclosure, but there is nothing to be disclosed, as it is not a secret, the mainstream know of it, it is in the news and all over Youtube, and for me, I believe 100%. I do not need anyone or anybody acknowledging what I already know to be true. I certainly don't need or want my governments approval on what I believe in. That is between me, myself, and I.

Time to stop waiting, and time to start living within our own truths, with complete faith in them, no matter what the government decides to do.

love & light

Incredible words, Rosie. Everyone here in this thread really "gets" this, but you've put it into a brilliant description.

As a child, I don't ever remember aliens or extraterrestrials being mentioned (although my parents have always been quite open about the metaphysical and those things we "cannot" see.); I just always KNEW. There it was, in my heart of hearts, somewhere in the back of my mind, that THIS WAS NOT ALL THERE IS. So much so that, when I was around seven or eight years old, I remember staring at the back of my hands in wonder, confused about why they looked the way they did. See, I had little child hands, in a light peachy-pink - but I was expecting old, weathered hands . . . in a bright blue. I wasn't fully "comfortable" in my pink, human skin until I was about twenty-five years old, but my entire life, I just knew there was something else out there and that I had experienced/witnessed it before. I think a lot of people here can probably say this.

<3

[Holly Lindin]

Fred: Your thought is worth two BUCKS - not two cents. ;)

<3

[Majorion]

The best that can be accomplished is getting them enraged, en masse
Hey Fred, great post.

But I think that would be all the excuse they need to starting arresting people, just for exercising free-speech , and undoubtedly the media would "up" the propaganda, and the government would probably look for a way to make the protests/movement seem violent (a plant, false flag), then move in.

[TheTruth]

Hey Fred, I read your post.. The Gov has already released drips about UFO files. They have been doing so for years, its de-classified UFO files. But I have never seen them in a full on interview admitting it.


If they did, there would be politicians, and military people hanging from every light post, from Wash. D.C. to San Diego.

I can't agree with that i'm afraid, its actually the military that is pressuring the Whitehouse to give a disclosure. This type can only come from The President. As i heard, Clinton was not moral enough, Bush was not smart enough. Obama is the candidate to do this. JUST WHEN!?

Everyone, please have a look at this video, you owe it to yourself ;)

http://vimeo.com/8499200
ALIENEVENT 2012 CONFERENCE Stephen Bassett on President OBAMA The ET Disclosure, NOV 15, 2009, LOS ANGELES

(for the rest of the conference videos for reference: http://alienshift.com/alienevent/id23.html )

[Majorion]

Hi TheTruth,

Stephen Bassett has been saying there's - disclosure nearby - for years now, I've heard what he has to say on numerous occasions. Obama is no different either, during his election campaign he and other candidates were asked what they thought of the ufo issue, and needless to say the stance was the atypical ridicule. I don't agree with you about military or anyone else pushing for disclosure, there has been no indication whatsoever, Bassett just does conferences and tries to get people excited. He has given dates before (years ago) and of course nothing happened. May I humbly recommend Jacque Vallee's "Messengers of Deception", it's a must read for anybody who has any real interest in ufos, if you haven't read it then please do.

[TheTruth]

I take that on-board Majorion. Thanks for the info, my opinion isn't fact, just opinion. I can see why Stephen Bassett doesn't have concrete disclosure dates though, it isn't his call to make. But, if enough people get excited about this, it will happen. That video is more of a plea for people to jump up and join up, for the cause. Sitting and waiting for Stephen to bring the news to you is not going to happen.