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Fellow Aspirant
2nd May 2014, 23:41
Michael Salla recently brought online attention to this series of captures from Curiosity. I think it's well worth a look, so here it is, for Avalonian consideration:

http://www.examiner.com/article/huge-cylindrical-ufo-captured-by-mars-curiosity-rover?cid=taboola_inbound

Cheers,

Brian

(And yes, I am fully aware of the fact that some members of this forum - you know who you are - will always immediately attack any posting that uses NASA as a source. I would urge these people to look away and move on, leaving those of us who are truly curious to share a feature of our anomalous universe in peace.

Either that, or consider the possibility that there is some merit to examining all phenomena, in order to subject them to discernible scrutiny and thereby leave ourselves open to the possibility of an enriching experience. Then, consider yourselves invited to join with those of us who are not convinced that we already know everything.)

ghostrider
3rd May 2014, 02:29
classic EMV , usually seen near the sun ...

ghostrider
3rd May 2014, 02:33
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLrBSOWbxiM/UKw3_aMjCSI/AAAAAAAAAUA/xkAsJ_CCVUQ/s640/2012.09.24+Sun-EMV:ET+193.jpg

ghostrider
3rd May 2014, 02:49
EMV = electro magnetic vehicle , energy crafts that farm the energy of the sun , to allow sentient life to thrive near a fusion star , and for making metal , gathering particles from planets placing them around large bodies where they are exposed to cosmic bombardment by CME's and then returned to a planet for the building blocks of microbes and other things needed for the growth of flora and fauna ... they are task driven , and can change shape and size ... ET's cannot approach them ... ET's called them the hand of god ...18 of them can absorb all the energy of the sun ... there are 333 of them in our galaxy ... you can search the soho website and see an EMV wrapping around mercury to protect it from a CME , and one wrapping around Venus to protect it from a CME ... they have an operation they visit daily in Nevada just north of the la sal mountains ...

Cidersomerset
3rd May 2014, 07:07
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Published on 1 May 2014


Very interesting object caught near Mount Sharp by Curiosity Rover. Object appears
cylindrical in shape and appears in five images over a 10 minute period.

The object looks very similar to the recent cigar shaped UFO recorded entering the
Popocatepeti Volcano in Mexico. See Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eBHd...

Could there be an Alien base in Mount Sharp and are these unknown objects
connected, as always you decide.

Raw Image Data Here: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimed...

Fellow Aspirant
3rd May 2014, 07:18
Thanks ghostrider. I had no idea that these things had such a history! Can you please recommend a site for further study?

Cheers,

B.

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Thanks for the additional info, Cidersomerset. :cool:

Can anyone explain the jagged shape of these things? Is it a feature of the pixilation of uniformly shaped cylinder, for example?

Cheers,

B.

Matt P
3rd May 2014, 11:36
(And yes, I am fully aware of the fact that some members of this forum - you know who you are - will always immediately attack any posting that uses NASA as a source. I would urge these people to look away and move on, leaving those of us who are truly curious to share a feature of our anomalous universe in peace.

Either that, or consider the possibility that there is some merit to examining all phenomena, in order to subject them to discernible scrutiny and thereby leave ourselves open to the possibility of an enriching experience. Then, consider yourselves invited to join with those of us who are not convinced that we already know everything.)

No disrespect at all but this is disturbing and more than a little passive aggressive and, because of your accusations, deserves a response. This is not "examining all phenomena" as you say. NASA is not a space and science agency. This is not open to debate. They are a military agency that deals in space and science topics. Big difference. NASA does not release anything without specific purpose. Every image is analyzed extensively before release. You may think this was released and then these "anomalies" were discovered but that is not the case. NASA most definitely knew they were in there before they released them and, most likely, created these anomalies. The reason is simple. They release images purported to be from this rover. Then when people find "anomalies" and debate them, this gives credibility to the images because people think the anomalies are there unexpectedly or by accident. I lack the perfect words to describe this. By debating the "anomalies" instead of the source, the source is legitimized. Make sense?
Let me ask you some questions.
If this was the NSA or the CIA releasing these images, would you trust them? If not, then why do you trust NASA? There is no difference.
Do you understand that in a court of law, once a witness has been proven a liar NONE of his testimony is believed? Do you have any clue how many thousands of times NASA has been caught lying? This is not a rhetorical question. Do you understand this? If yes, Why do you continue to take them seriously? If no, then please study their history before helping them spread any more of their propaganda. For your own benefit.
Can you please prove for me that there is a rover on Mars sending unadultered images to earth? You cannot. You are simply taking the word of a known lying military agency. You trust them implicitly and I can't understand why. There might be a rover on Mars but that does not change anything about NASA's purpose and history (see above). If there is a rover on Mars I can promise you it isn't showing the real Mars. We KNOW they filter the images so you can't see what the atmosphere really looks like. We KNOW there is much more on Mars than you are allowed to see.

I would love to just move on. Unfortunately, I see this as pollution that must be addressed. I would love to just move on when people try to say 9/11 happened like the government said, too, but I don't for the same reason. You may think that's an unfair analogy but I see it as perfect. (To you personally) If you know the government is lying about 9/11, think of how you feel every time they bring it up in public as justification for some policy or action or debate. Frustrating isn't it?

I am fascinated by and love reading about all kinds of amazing phenomenon and am very far from convinced I know everything and I take great offense at your insinuations. It is very rude actually. In fact, the more I learn the more I realize how little I know. But what I DO know is that it is pure folly to study and debate ANY images released from NASA. NOTHING from them can be trusted. So you may continue to pretend these are real images if you like but please don't treat those of us who know better as if we're being disrespectful, uninspired, un-curious or elitist. I mean, seriously? Calling us not truly curious??!! How offensive. Trusting known liars that have no merit does not further anyone's search for truth. It takes the effort backwards. I understand you WANT so badly to believe NASA always tells the truth and works for the peoples' interests and education (I do too actually) but I am simply trying to help you to not be so badly abused and deceived and, ultimately, embarrassed by trusting known liars and parroting their disinformation as truth.

Look, I would LOVE to trust NASA because I am certain that they do release lots of very interesting information. But because I know who they are and what their history is, unfortunately I cannot. It pains me to have to leave them behind but I see that as my responsibility as an adult in search of truth. I have been married almost 20 years but if my wife cheated on me thousands of times, eventually I have to accept that the deception trumps the love I once had for her.

I am sorry to take it to this level but your name calling deserved a stronger response.

Matt

sirdipswitch
3rd May 2014, 14:27
mpennery, Spot on bud!!! couldn't have said it better. I agree wholeheartedly. yep, do.:wizard:

Atlas
3rd May 2014, 17:06
The 'UFO' sequence starts at 04:48:22 UTC.

Just 27s before, the 'UFO' is seen at precisely 04:47:55 UTC (image below):

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00613/opgs/edr/ncam/NRB_451931834EDR_F0311330NCAM00554M_.JPG

You can see that it's a sphere, but in the video you see a streak/cigar because:




We use long and multiple exposures to make stars stand out. [...] Star exposures can go up to 5.5 minutes (compare to 0.1-0.5 sec for a normal day image). We cannot track stars, so they trail after 10 seconds or so. In longer exposures, hot pixels and cosmic rays show up as points or cluster of light.

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Spirit-night-observations.jpg
(Spirit's night observations from sol 1943)




That streak (above image) in the 1943 images is the bright star Canopus. We’re monitoring stars to search for evidence of night-time clouds, fog, and hazes. We’re also occasionally trying to image Earth and Venus as they set in the west after sunset. We’ve had some success, but the twilight sky is so bright we’re still working on tweaking the exposure times.

bogeyman
3rd May 2014, 17:40
I bet more photographs exist in NASA files, and more importantly better evidence.

Atlas
3rd May 2014, 18:09
Indeed. Below the Mast Camera at 04:46:47 and 04:47:12 UTC:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/curiosityrover.gif

Fellow Aspirant
4th May 2014, 02:30
Wow. That's a pretty huge over-reaction. There was no name calling involved. That's a product of your defensive mindset. Save your time and your invective for people who are attacking you. I'm not. I'd just like to post something from NASA without anyone insinuating I'm a fool.

I was not insinuating that members like you are wrong headed. I was stating it directly. You are, simply, wrong.

And don't take my word for it. Consider one of your "trusted" sources, Mr. Richard C. Hoagland. He's made a long and illustrious career from analysing NASA images. So have many other people. He has made many important contributions to understanding what NASA's been covering up - at the same time as he has used their images to elucidate the truth.

Learn to discern. And leave the rest of us alone.

Cheers,

Brian