Jesus Christ Not Crucified?

[Little Ishta]

Came across an interesting article. Really made me wonder if it was true. Could it be really possible that Jesus Christ was not crucified? They had found a 1500 yr old bible that has the 'Gospel of Barnabas' that shows that Jesus was not crucified. Here is the link to the article... http://www.trippapparel.com/2014/28676

[bogeyman]

The Bible's are put together by those that decide what needs to go in them to form the book, and usually it is according to their own understanding or interest. Remember it is according to their understanding at that time, not now. take into consideration the political, and historical situation at the time.

[Akasha]

Here (http://www.answering-christianity.com/barnabas.htm)'s an online version of "The Gospel of Barnabas"

[ghostrider]

not to ruffle any feathers as people are free to believe whatever they choose to , it is said that Jesus is a name they made up , Nowhere in the old testament is the name Jesus mentioned ... his real name was Immanuel , he survived the crucifixion , taken out of the tomb through a secret passage and healed by three shaman from India ... the traveling Hebrew then lived in India , got married and had two children ... He died at the age of 134 years old ...The religious order of that day hid the truth of his name and deceived the whole world ...Religion today still operates at odds with Immanuel's teachings of spirit , love , peace , kindness , oneness and balance ...they still cling to death , blood , sacrifice , war , just as the old Lyrian god Jehav commanded ...

[giovonni]

Today it is hardly disputed whereas Pontius Pilate did ordered that (particular historical) crucifixion ...

But whether it was (the then) Jesus of Nazareth ...

Now that is quite debatable ... :argue:

[Kalamos]

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[Milneman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas

Why do I get the feeling that the OP article is bogus?

No kidding?

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[dianna]

Forget crucified, what if Jesus, his life and his teachings was actually Myth? (and keep in mind the true idea of what Myth is … Myth is always more truthful than written history ...)

http://www.strangenotions.com/wp-content/uploads/Jesus-a-Myth.jpg

See the works of (and this is a short list):

A.B. Kuhn
Mircea Eliade
Tom Harpur
John Lash
James Fraser
G.R.S. Mead
Gerald Massey
James Fraser
Joseph Campbell
Merlin Stone
G.J.P.J. Bolland
J.M. Allegro
Alvar Ellegård
G.A. Wells
Dorothy M. Murdock / Acharya S
Kersey Graves
Joseph Atwill
Bart D. Ehrman

[bruno dante]

not to ruffle any feathers as people are free to believe whatever they choose to , it is said that Jesus is a name they made up , Nowhere in the old testament is the name Jesus mentioned ... his real name was Immanuel , he survived the crucifixion , taken out of the tomb through a secret passage and healed by three shaman from India ... the traveling Hebrew then lived in India , got married and had two children ... He died at the age of 134 years old ...The religious order of that day hid the truth of his name and deceived the whole world ...Religion today still operates at odds with Immanuel's teachings of spirit , love , peace , kindness , oneness and balance ...they still cling to death , blood , sacrifice , war , just as the old Lyrian god Jehav commanded ...


That's an interesting angle. Where can I read more about this?

[8Adamas8]

Here (http://www.answering-christianity.com/barnabas.htm)'s an online version of "The Gospel of Barnabas"

This is laughable to being authored by barnabas himself.

Reason #1 the "name" lucifer doesn't appear until the Latin translation vulgate in the 5th century so obviously barnabas would have to have lived 400+ years and went senile for him to write about lucifer so much.
Reason #2 there are no surviving copies of it from before the 18th century and thought to have been from the 16th century and the earliest copy was in Spanish and is now lost.
Reason #3 to further the point of #2 Spain had a pretty good size Muslim population during this time frame and this "gospel" is pretty much a PR piece for Mohammed.
Reason #4 this "gospel" is completely at odds with both the epistle and acts of barnabas which are attributed to the 2nd century.

Need I go on, this is Muslim propaganda bunk.

[giovonni]

whether Jesus was or not ... i take a third position ...

in that those Roman's were very clever ... :rolleyes:

"Deos fortioribus adesse" ...

'the gods are on the side of the stronger' ...

Jesus + Rome = Christian Empire

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ConstantineI.jpg

'Did Jesus Exist ?' A Historian Makes His Case (http://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/149462376/did-jesus-exist-a-historian-makes-his-case)

[Ellisa]

Read the parallels between the god of the Roman army-Mithras- and Jesus! It is astonishing.

Also there are many similarities between the myths of Horus and Osiris (Egyptian) and the stories of Jesus and Mary. Osiris was, for instance, resurrected.

The date now celebrated as Jesus Birth (Dec 25th) was the same as many of the ancient beliefs also.

[linksplatinum]

not to ruffle any feathers as people are free to believe whatever they choose to , it is said that Jesus is a name they made up , Nowhere in the old testament is the name Jesus mentioned ... his real name was Immanuel , he survived the crucifixion , taken out of the tomb through a secret passage and healed by three shaman from India ... the traveling Hebrew then lived in India , got married and had two children ... He died at the age of 134 years old ...The religious order of that day hid the truth of his name and deceived the whole world ...Religion today still operates at odds with Immanuel's teachings of spirit , love , peace , kindness , oneness and balance ...they still cling to death , blood , sacrifice , war , just as the old Lyrian god Jehav commanded ...


That's an interesting angle. Where can I read more about this?

Talmud Jmmanuel - Story of a great man falsely named Jesus: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA365E7A060DC53E6

[sirdipswitch]

For more than six years after getting my first computer, I did nothing but read, (old books, 100 or more years) in a fabulous site full of old books, called Sacred-Texts dot com. In reading those old books, something became quite clear, (to me) that "Many" of those old guys of antiquity, believed that the entire Hebrew story was a fabrication, invented in the 7th cenutury, and expanded on through the 11th century. For none of them could find in contemporary writings of "any" time period past, "anything" about the "Hebrew" people and their plight. The Greeks and Romans were meticulous record keepers, that believed in writting about their enemies, to expose them, and yet fail to even mention, the Hebrew. And then when the Hebrew did pop up suddenly in the 7th centruy, we have all these books about them, but... they are "ALL", unauthored books and nobody knows when they were written. The King James... 66 books and we don't know who wrote them or when. And yet we are just supposed to believe it all without question. HMMMM.... somethin wrong with that picture, me thinks.

Oh yes and I almost forgot, everything we do have, in support of Christianity, has been written since the 7th century... by Christian authors. (of those that were authored and dated.)

Nuther thing I found was a study done by modern Forensics, that determined the Shroud of Turrin, had been used to cover a... "LIVE" body. It has also been written that no-one, hung for less than 12 hours on a cross, and some for days, and yet Jesus was taken down in "6" hours. He was then covered and sent his tomb with a hundred pounds of, "Healing Herbs", not Embalming Herbs.

Seems that after his crusifiction, he did something that he had done previously. He dissapeared. Yep, and the next we find him in Kashmir, where they also have his tomb. Yep, and you can even find it on GoogleEarth. chuckle chuckle. In Srinagar, Jammu, Kashmir.

After all of that study, I stumbled across an author, who said that we are all, Immortal, and this body is not who we really are, and I took off in an entirely different direction, and "returned" to my Immortal Spirit Self. Yep, did. And you can find the rest of that story on my thread, about me and William Buhlman, and that which he has been doing and teaching for more than 40 years now.

; (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51152-The-Secret-Of-The-Soul-and-OBE)

:wizard:

[sigma6]

I don't recall John Lamb Lash ever saying Jesus never existed... but then again that was never his main focus... but certainly not in any of his interviews, nor does Bart Ehrman consider Jesus never existed, and Joseph Campbell has an interesting argument which I do think is compelling, but that is not evidence that Jesus never existed but, that the text is manipulated. And Campbell openly admits biblical scholarship isn't his forte, but he it a literary critic? I like his argument, but I don't think it goes far enough. I always wonder how these guys can operate and never entertain each others critiques into their own interpretations?

Richard Ellis and the general secret freemason interpretation is that Jesus is an Egyptian prince and bloodline of the Cleopatra and Jules or Marc Antony (I think more Caesar) who later became a King in Syria? Did try to make a play for the Roman 'Throne'. Was overcome, crucified but let down in the last minute to avoid another Jewish uprising, upon a pleading from Josephus Flavius, the famous Jewish traitor and Roman confidant and historian (I guess is conscience must have been bothering him?) and then exiled to a fortress in Britain.

As an aside it is interesting that today the US is attacking all the countries that contradict the G7 Roman Catholic Vatican NWO Biblical interpretation, right at a time when the Vatican is under fire and losing credibility.

But I would search Richard Ellis interviews... some very compelling research there...

[william6565william]

"According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. "

That's all I need to read right there. When there is a credible party that can vouch for its authenticity, then I'd take the news with a grain of salt.