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Heartsong
4th May 2014, 17:11
Forty Four years ago today the National Guard opened fire on protesters, students on the Kent State campus after the invasion of Cambodia by US troops. I remember the day well. I was 19 and a student on a campus some 1500 miles away. A strange feeling of grief and outrage pervaded the whole campus. I have never forgotten. It's as clear as any memory I have.

This is the wikipedia entry:

"The Kent State shootings (also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre)[2][3][4] occurred at Kent State University in the US city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.[5][6]

Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the Cambodian Campaign, which President Richard Nixon announced during a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.[7][8]

There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of four million students,[9] and the event further affected public opinion—at an already socially contentious time—over the role of the United States in the Vietnam War.[10]

Frederick Jackson
4th May 2014, 23:25
Heartlsong, it was not an invasion of Cambodia but an "incursion" to use the phrase of the day. We were trying to inderdict the NVA troops moving south along the Ho Chi MInh trail across the border in Cambodia. My opinion is that this was a correct action to take. If Cambodia could not or would not put a stop to NVA troops moving through its territory then we had to and had a right to. I was not and and still am not anti Vietnam war person although I have a new perspective on it with recent revelations on how our involvement began (eg the Gulf of Tonkin resolution). I remember how the Left got its bowels in an uproar in righteous indignation of this. They went effing nuts. This was enough to make a political conservative out of me. (This was not easy living in Greenwich Village in the mid to late sixties.) So I have mixed feelings about the Kent State shootings.

But thanks for sharing. It is good to be reminded of history like this.

PS Within a day or so after the election of George Bush Jr. I ceased to identify myself as a conservative. Things have changed radically since the fall of the Soviet Union. Whereas before I regarded the Left as the danger to our democracy I now so regard the Right. As most of us believe here on PA the left and right are both being "played" by TPTB. But it seems to me now that the political right is the bigger sucker.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
5th May 2014, 02:37
The commies and the capitalists are a big permutation of the male and female natures playing out... on the societal level... and economic level... lol

"MOTHER" Russia, right?
And UNCLE Sam? :)

I feel the same way as FJ.
I registered independent at age 18 against my grandmother's wishes.
And am so proud of that, you can't imagine, lol :P

But was fooled by 9/11, which happened my first semester of college.
I didn't even know why the kids were protesting. Guess they were afraid of the Draft returning or something.
fat lot of good it did! :(

Heartsong
5th May 2014, 02:43
Militarily it may have been the right thing for the U.S. to do, but the shooting of protesters by our own national guard was horrifying regardless of where you stood on the war. It seemed that from 1968 with the shootings of MLK and Bobby Kennedy thru 1972 with Watergate and the Pentagon Papers the world was in chaos. From my then youthful perspective even more so than now.