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apokalypse
7th May 2014, 01:06
seen kids these days just so damn frustrated. Some of the parents i knew at most they like us in Non-Mainstream stuff and at least they have some awareness what's going on or awareness in physicality but with their kids is opposite being a sheep.
when i'm on the stress doing alot of observation, always see happy or proud parent with their kids but one thing on my mind is the upbringing which will fall to the system and think within the box. this is one of my most concern with our children these days are so into physicality especially with gadgets.
one of the person i can see already are my cousin, my cousin is smart get a good grade everything and even she get PHD will be a sheeple...i tried to tell her about these kind of stuff in non-mainstream but don't listen, one thing popup in my head she she have kids is Blind leading the Blind.
picture describe thousand words:
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Tyy1907
7th May 2014, 02:18
My two kids are in the public school system as well. I do what I can to curtail the linear their way or the highway approach. Like grade 2 Math for example. They're supposed to use a method of subtraction that is so overly complicated its ridi ulous. I showedy daughter the easy method I was taught and she actually enjoys doing math now. I'm waiting for a letter or meeting request from her teacher. I can't wait. I'm gonna pick apart that curriculum big time!
gripreaper
7th May 2014, 02:40
How I educated my kids was, every time they would ask a question, I would answer it with a question, in order for them to think critically ON THEIR OWN and come up with the answer. I also read to them incessantly when they were young so they developed a love for books. Once they could critically think for themselves and they knew how to read and find information, the job was done.
8Adamas8
7th May 2014, 03:00
My two kids are in the public school system as well. I do what I can to curtail the linear their way or the highway approach. Like grade 2 Math for example. They're supposed to use a method of subtraction that is so overly complicated its ridi ulous. I showedy daughter the easy method I was taught and she actually enjoys doing math now. I'm waiting for a letter or meeting request from her teacher. I can't wait. I'm gonna pick apart that curriculum big time!
Ah the base 10 subtraction method. I saw a video of a teacher propagating this garbage. lol Instead of trying to confuse kids by merging two concepts why not teach them the simpler method of subtraction then base 10's becomes intuitive. Just another method of teaching kids what to think instead of how to think. The programming is working so well on the so called "educators" they think they are thinking outside the proverbial box when in fact they are adding more layers of :bs:
Tyy1907
7th May 2014, 03:27
My two kids are in the public school system as well. I do what I can to curtail the linear their way or the highway approach. Like grade 2 Math for example. They're supposed to use a method of subtraction that is so overly complicated its ridi ulous. I showedy daughter the easy method I was taught and she actually enjoys doing math now. I'm waiting for a letter or meeting request from her teacher. I can't wait. I'm gonna pick apart that curriculum big time!
Ah the base 10 subtraction method. I saw a video of a teacher propagating this garbage. lol Instead of trying to confuse kids by merging two concepts why not teach them the simpler method of subtraction then base 10's becomes intuitive. Just another method of teaching kids what to think instead of how to think. The programming is working so well on the so called "educators" they think they are thinking outside the proverbial box when in fact they are adding more layers of :bs:
I knew I wasn't the only one!
RunningDeer
7th May 2014, 04:10
The programming is working so well on the so called "educators" they think they are thinking outside the proverbial box when in fact they are adding more layers of :bs:
The educators teach that way because the Board of Education say that is the way. The Board of Education say it is the way because the towns people vote down the educational budgets because their tax dollars are too high. The school system’s hands are tied because they have to accept financial assistance from state and federal governments. And you know the rest.
There are a lot of excellent educators that have walked away from their profession because they could not in good conscience stay and play that game.
She speaks for the parents AND educators.
Arkansas Mother Obliterates Common Core in 4 Minutes!
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8Adamas8
7th May 2014, 05:05
The programming is working so well on the so called "educators" they think they are thinking outside the proverbial box when in fact they are adding more layers of :bs:
The educators teach that way because the Board of Education say that is the way. The Board of Education say it is the way because the towns people vote down the educational budgets because their tax dollars are too high. The school system’s hands are tied because they have to accept financial assistance from state and federal governments. And you know the rest.
There are a lot of excellent educators that have walked away from their profession because they could not in good conscience stay and play that game.
She speaks for the parents AND educators.
Completely agree this is the main mechanism. However, as shown in the video with the board director, there are those educators not only buying it but opening up franchises and creating grass root mechanisms for education retardation. My previous post was because the base 10 method was one of the latter.
Believe me I know of the real educators. My mom was one and cries blasphemy at current education. I was a student of educators seeking refuge from the federal education system at a private school my last 3 years of high school. Some of the most interesting and stimulating classes I've been in, enough for me to still keep in contact with some of my teachers. Ha, our chemistry teacher even taught us how to distill moonshine from mouthwash. I guess he didn't think we had the resources as we were at an all male military boarding school but I think he underestimated the resourcefulness of those at an all male military boarding school. :p
Well, I probably shouldn't comment. Although I do have kids....
http://www.acuteaday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/baby-goat-kids.jpg. I don't, however, have any
children....
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Were I to have children, I would educate them in the truest sense of the word education.... leisure. I would provide them with multitudes of experiences, information and disciplines to cultivate learning in that which they have interest and would then seek resources to nurture that which inspires them. I would not "train" them to be worker bees, that's for certain. No traditional school setting, not in a million years.
Atlantean Avatar
8th May 2014, 00:20
I have 5 children. I was going to homeschool from day 1 but was talked out of it by family who knew better. My eldest daughter is 26 and about to become a mum any day now. Last week she told me that she had always hated her time in school and her 3 brothers all in their 20's felt the same way. I also have a 10 year old daughter who has never been to school. I have never followed the Australian curriculum. She is my life apprentice. She goes where I go and "experiences" life with my guidance. I take advantage of as many educational recourses as I deem necessary at the time. My daughter's favorite place is the museum. She could spend every day their and still find something new to discover. She has the time and freedom and time to explore what interests at the time. Schools take kids to the museum once or twice in 13 years. They are told what to look at and what to write about it.
I am not saying that home education is all smooth sailing but most the bumps come from family, friends and total strangers who think that it is almost child abuse to deny my child a "normal" main steam educational experience.
A 21 year old hotel manager last week mathematically pitted himself against my 10 year old daughter. He could not even come close to her speed and accuracy.
QED - unlimited online IXL maths practice going well.
My daughter plays with mainstream kids. At the end of each day we discuss the days events and she feels free to tell me anything and everything without judgement. I am the authority figure in my child's life not the teachers or school bullies. Her friends confide in her when they are being bullied and she asks my advice on how she can help her friends.
QED - My daughter infuriates the local bullies by not giving in to them or peer group pressure.
I am now quite sure that it is a mistake to heard children into large numbers in a high fenced facility without the backup of their parent's to guide them through most of the hours of their childhoods.
AjaJane
8th May 2014, 23:04
I was in a private Montessori school for Kindergarten to grade 4, which was really good for me. I was a "gifted" kid, and the Montessori system enable me to go at my own pace and be challenged.
For grades 6-8 (I skipped grade 5) I went to a school for home-schoolers. Doesn't make sense, right? Haha. I would go to the school 2 days a week and get to take awesome electives like Robotics and Video Making. I had a fantastic teacher that taught me the most out of my entire education. For the rest of my subjects my mom hired a tutor to come to the house three times a week and teach me the curriculum. It was great because I had the freedom of homeschooling while still having the social connection of school. However, all of the kids at that school were either super smart (me) or Christian Fundamentalists (not me) so it wasn't exactly a typical social setting!
I went into public high school in grade 9. Biggest culture shock of my life and I didn't even move from the suburb I grew up in. I remember my first day of science class and while we were supposed to be working on an assignment, the guy next to me was just doing nothing. I was so shocked that he wasn't doing anything, that he wasn't working hard.
By grade 12 in public school I had become an expert at b-s-ing my way through essays, because I learned that that's really the only way to do them. I graduated (2 years ago) with full honours and all that stuff but I knew that I hadn't really gotten an education.
Funny story - in grade 12 here we have a course called Graduation Transitions. You never actually go to a class for it and just have to complete a series of 3 booklets. One is a fitness log and essay, one is a financial plan and essay, and one is a university plan. Anyway, I was late handing in the last booklet to the office because we all knew the due dates didn't really matter. The next week there was an announcement saying if you handed it in late, you had to do an extra package. I was furious, and I went to the office to pick it up. It required a one paragraph essay on the importance of Graduation Transitions, the importance of deadlines and what you learned from it.
I immediately went to the library - I had a free block and I wanted to write it while I was still mad. All the students knew that the teachers didn't read our assignments, and I wanted to test that.
I wrote an essay (following all the requirements, mind you, and using excellent English) that basically outlined the flaws of the course, and included a few choice swearwords. I handed it in, and was expecting to either get it back, checked right and unread, or get called into the office.
I got the essay back the next week, marked by the vice-principal (who wouldn't have found it funny had he actually read it) with a check mark.
Sorry if this post was too long, I know not everything I said is related to this.
The education system is really just a way to brainwash the next generation. If I ever have children I will either try and find a good public school, or homeschool them.
ThePythonicCow
25th May 2014, 17:24
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