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yelik
10th May 2014, 09:58
Sign Petition to Ban Illegal Chemtrails
Hi Everyone
Here's a good UK website where you can sign a petition and automatically send a message to your MP. The site also contains detailed scientific evidence which is very informative and is automatically sent with your email.
http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/
Another really good feature of the website is that all MP's replies are tracked and shown which you can read.
You'll notice that most of the replies are just standard wording provided to them by The Department of the Environment. A few offer to make further enquiries, some admit Government research is ongoing and some claim they are just vapour trails, of course they are, we've all seen the planes playing noughts and crosses in the sky’s. Normally when you get different answers it means someone is lying, although that’s unusual for politicians, I always thought they had our best interest at heart.
I am new member and thought this website was a good example of how people can try to make a difference. Perhaps if Avalon members also felt strongly about specific injustices, of which there are many, but say, the illegal suppression of zero point energy or free energy, then a similar model could be used? There are other vehicles we could use without creating a new website. What do members think about that idea.
Free energy was essentially developed by Nicola Tesla in the early 1900's and is highly likely to have been perfected from at least the 1940's but has been suppressed because it is not in the interest of the banks and oil cartels. Also Governments are extremely fearful of losing the associated tax revenues to carry on their deeds. Money still makes the world go round and it's release would greatly reduce the power and influence of the elites.
Regards
Ian
Sunny-side-up
10th May 2014, 10:06
Sign Petition to Ban Illegal Chemtrails
Hi Everyone
Here's a good UK website where you can sign a petition and automatically send a message to your MP. The site also contains detailed scientific evidence which is very informative and is automatically sent with your email.
http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/
Another really good feature of the website is that all MP's replies are tracked and shown which you can read.
You'll notice that most of the replies are just standard wording provided to them by The Department of the Environment. A few offer to make further enquiries, some admit Government research is ongoing and some claim they are just vapour trails, of course they are, we've all seen the planes playing noughts and crosses in the sky’s. Normally when you get different answers it means someone is lying, although that’s unusual for politicians, I always thought they had our best interest at heart.
I am new member and thought this website was a good example of how people can try to make a difference. Perhaps if Avalon members also felt strongly about specific injustices, of which there are many, but say, the illegal suppression of zero point energy or free energy, then a similar model could be used? There are other vehicles we could use without creating a new website. What do members think about that idea.
Free energy was essentially developed by Nicola Tesla in the early 1900's and is highly likely to have been perfected from at least the 1940's but has been suppressed because it is not in the interest of the banks and oil cartels. Also Governments are extremely fearful of losing the associated tax revenues to carry on their deeds. Money still makes the world go round and it's release would greatly reduce the power and influence of the elites.
Regards
Ian
Hi yelik
Bumping this post already:
Those photos of Chem-trailed sky's are just diabolical!
How can anyone think sky's like that are normal and or healthy?
Mind boggling ha!
Lancelot
10th May 2014, 10:46
Done. Email sent to my MP via the chemtrailsprojectuk website.
Over half of the MPs in the uk have been e-mailed now through this campaign (338 out of 650)
I look forward to seeing the response.
Hopefully this will make a difference, it will certainly increase awareness among MPs as to whats going on up there
Lettherebelight
10th May 2014, 11:08
thanks for sharing, Yelik. I have sent this to my local MP, Alan Whitehead.
Lifebringer
10th May 2014, 12:53
Sign Petition to Ban Illegal Chemtrails
Hi Everyone
Here's a good UK website where you can sign a petition and automatically send a message to your MP. The site also contains detailed scientific evidence which is very informative and is automatically sent with your email.
http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/
Another really good feature of the website is that all MP's replies are tracked and shown which you can read.
You'll notice that most of the replies are just standard wording provided to them by The Department of the Environment. A few offer to make further enquiries, some admit Government research is ongoing and some claim they are just vapour trails, of course they are, we've all seen the planes playing noughts and crosses in the sky’s. Normally when you get different answers it means someone is lying, although that’s unusual for politicians, I always thought they had our best interest at heart.
I am new member and thought this website was a good example of how people can try to make a difference. Perhaps if Avalon members also felt strongly about specific injustices, of which there are many, but say, the illegal suppression of zero point energy or free energy, then a similar model could be used? There are other vehicles we could use without creating a new website. What do members think about that idea.
Free energy was essentially developed by Nicola Tesla in the early 1900's and is highly likely to have been perfected from at least the 1940's but has been suppressed because it is not in the interest of the banks and oil cartels. Also Governments are extremely fearful of losing the associated tax revenues to carry on their deeds. Money still makes the world go round and it's release would greatly reduce the power and influence of the elites.
Regards
Ian
I say: "IT'S OUR FUTURE AND OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AND WE AS LIVING BREATHING FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BREATH CLEAN AIR AND USE OTHER RESOURCES." That's the best way of expressing my compassion on this subject as a LEED USGB Associate, that's made the changes in life style until I'm barely using 3 sockets in the home, until they release the people from lifelong oppression of high energy prices in their family budgets. Anyone that doesn't make the changes in real estate or homes and buildings, I don't rent, from. If they are afraid to save their tenants or home owners money, so they can pay that mortgage, then their intent is "they don't care how much more it cost to live in the slum shell of old dirty energy loss."
I've built homes for first time buyers, and we put the shibangbang on energy efficiency when building. Most of the utility bills come in around 100-150 per month for a 4 or 5 bedroom home with 2 1/2 bths, attic, basement. Water proofed, insulated top and under floors can save home renter or owner thousands in the life time of the home, freeing money to pay or stop a foreclosure. Solar panels pay for themselves w/in 3-5 years. I don't understand why we aren't just taking our income tax, alerting the landlord or bank of the added clean energy to the home, increase the value if there's a sale later, as well as save the new owner. I'm serious, it's a "dirty lifestyle of lazy" that keeps the oil pollution gang going. Time for them to retire, and since it's the sabaath and this is my spiritual site where all people/humans and others meet to join minds in progress and envision a better future for our children. I refuse to call them "kids." They are of the Ram, my children of the Lamb/Christ.
Congratulations Ian in the UK, it will be a little tougher for us to find the trail leading to the ones dropping in our skies w/out our permission, but tracking we must. One of these monopolized chem corporations, have lost their minds to do this. Time to put/pull the dogs down. Remove them from the positions of power, so their demented minds can't harm any other nations with behavioral heavy metals that increase aggressive and mental instability when temperatures rise. Those particles scattered throughout, are there for some weaponry against civilians by mic elites of the old guard, setting up legacy wealth to continue the same stuff every century from here on out, i'll just bet you that.
If they are jailed with longest periods of time away from families in regular jails using their monopolized communication fee for service prison for profit system, they would be broke in a year. LOL
It's really hard to find two quarters for the grand children, so you know those in jail, have it really hard from poor backrounds and a non-violent record/charge.
heather6thsense
10th May 2014, 12:55
I have posted the info on my face book page. Many thanks and welcome to Project Avalon.
Sérénité
10th May 2014, 13:46
Signed!
Thanks for sharing and informing Yelik and welcome to Avalon. Have a blessed weekend :)
sheme
10th May 2014, 15:10
Better to ask our MP how the government can justify spending over 100 billion pounds on HAARP aerosols annually? if that is the wrong figure can they please tell us how much the bill really is, and are they going to pay for the flood damage as they the government are directly responsible, have they been lobbied by the insurance industry yet, because they will have to pay the bill ultimately.
I am waiting for the rain to send my sample to Bristol.
When they can prove what is a contrail verses an alleged "chemtrail" that will be the day.
When they can show that ALL internal combustion engine exhausts produce the NANO-PARTICLES, that are the killers, that will be the day.
When they show the nano-carbon-soot produced from burning hydrocarbons is creating the acid rains, the toxin induced cancers (nano-particle disruption of DNA and cell metabolism) that will be the day.
Until then a petition I don't believe will generate any traction. Good luck with that.
https://www.facebook.com/ChemtrailsProjectUK
Delivered a petition to David Cameron - keep up the great works!!!
Robin
10th May 2014, 19:54
As much as people who continue to protest and sign petitions have their hearts in the right place, this is not going to really do anything. I don't mean to sound rude...but the PTB laugh at citizens when they protest because they are still ASKING the governments to do things. The only way the people of the world are going to take back their power is when they stop ASKING the government for things, and instead, FORCE the government to things. And then DISMANTLE the governments because these people have no moral right to keep us as slaves.
Instead of protesting, we need to start taking heads. American/French Revolutions 2.0. Bring out the guillotine!
When they can prove what is a contrail verses an alleged "chemtrail" that will be the day.
When they can show that ALL internal combustion engine exhausts produce the NANO-PARTICLES, that are the killers, that will be the day.
When they show the nano-carbon-soot produced from burning hydrocarbons is creating the acid rains, the toxin induced cancers (nano-particle disruption of DNA and cell metabolism) that will be the day.
Until then a petition I don't believe will generate any traction. Good luck with that.
Bobd - we have enough traction on this subject, including many scientists globally analysing 'chemtrail' detritus, not worrying about the CO2-scam, bottom-line, it's illegal to spray us with anything. ILLEGAL! We have to object - or comply? I do not comply with illegal spraying. I have a right to natural air, natural water and natural food. This is now being denied us via corporate means. Therefore we should object - vociferously, legally and continuously until the major force of the free populace is heard and acknowledged. We can boycott - but apart from the obvious - where could we hurt hardest?
By not voting in an election gives the corporate-funded most opportunity. We must vote - even if we hate voting! This is the system we live amongst in the UK - therefore we should participate to make some change. At least we don't have electronic voting here (yet).
I have recently found that the most corrupt councillors in our local area have suddenly acquired conservatories, luxury foreign holidays for them and their families - all to get a most unpopular and vastly-petitioned-against housing development through. It beggars' belief, and this is not just localised, it's handshakingly nationwide corruption. To national levels. It MUST be stopped.
we have enough traction on this subject, including many scientists globally analysing 'chemtrail' detritus, not worrying about the CO2-scam, bottom-line, it's illegal to spray us with anything. ILLEGAL! We have to object - or comply? I do not comply with illegal spraying. I have a right to natural air, natural water and natural food. This is now being denied us via corporate means. Therefore we should object - vociferously, legally and continuously until the major force of the free populace is heard and acknowledged. We can boycott - but apart from the obvious - where could we hurt hardest?
By not voting in an election gives the corporate-funded most opportunity. We must vote - even if we hate voting! This is the system we live amongst in the UK - therefore we should participate to make some change. At least we don't have electronic voting here (yet).
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Mankind, ya gotta stop burning hydrocarbons, that is where your chemicals are coming from, which nucleate into visible particles that ur calling chemtrails.
I have an excellent thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64534-DNA-Nano-Technology-triggering&p=745726&viewfull=1#post745726) on the nanoparticles which explains in a way a lay person could understand where the toxins come from, and how they become visible, pointing out when they remain INVISIBLE to they eye, having NOT nucleated yet to create a visible exhaust.. they, those "trails" are still there, they come from the exhaust, of EVERY hydrocarbon engine exhaust. Think about that would ya? Anytime the plane flies, the "TRAIL" of nanoparticles IS there.. Only when temps are right and humidity right that it nucleates (attaches to water particles and becomes visible)..
ALL are missing that point, arguing about the visible particle trails..
When people are kept in the dark, told half truths, then they seem like fools when someone points out, er, nanoparticles are doing the deed...
Get the full picture when telling folks petition is being honest. You know we have talked about this before. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64534-DNA-Nano-Technology-triggering&p=745726&viewfull=1#post745726)
Petition all you want, thing is, the data must be accurate to be taken seriously.
Yes - nasty naughty nanoparticles with weird composition - = ILLEGAL. Whatever their composition. Get rid - clean 'our act' up! Our plants and trees really need CO2, in fact - the planet thrives on it. That's my knowledge, and is fundamental to all species. We are being poisoned by ourselves via some stupid black-ops, turn back the clock to early 1900's - no nasty skies, natural produce, raw milk from farms - folk really well. Too much messing with our environment/food/health these days, for profit - that is so sad. It actually benefits big pharma investors for folk to be ill so as to sell their drugs... SICK? Cancer Research is the biggest scam ever - where does all that money go when the simplest of cures are there - but banned - for profit? They should come clean and give cannabis oil and proven historical natural cures to cancer sufferers - it really works, stuff their chemo. I'm sticking with natural remedies as long as possible. Support your folks' naturally, Vitamin D3 in high doses (5,000 iu's per day), 1,000iu's Vitamin C if fresh fruit and veggies not available.
yelik
10th May 2014, 21:36
Hi Bobd
I don't disagree with you, however if enough people make complaints politicians will have to respond. If you look at websites like www.38degrees.org.uk where anyone can start a petition they have actually forced the the governments hand on many occasions. If all members of Avalon were to start a petition to request say, the Government to investigate the existence or otherwise of free energy and we got a few hundred thousand signatures something would happen. Not only that it sends a strong message out that people are not going to sit back. Also it may even start getting into mainstream media. It's better than doing nothing
Regards
Ian
Yes - nasty naughty nanoparticles with weird composition - = ILLEGAL.
Whatever their composition. Get rid - clean 'our act' up!
Our plants and trees really need CO2, in fact - the planet thrives on it.
That's my knowledge, and is fundamental to all species. We are being poisoned by ourselves via some stupid black-ops, turn back the clock to early 1900's - no nasty skies, natural produce, raw milk from farms - folk really well. Too much messing with our environment/food/health these days, for profit - that is so sad. It actually benefits big pharma investors for folk to be ill so as to sell their drugs... SICK? Cancer Research is the biggest scam ever - where does all that money go when the simplest of cures are there - but banned - for profit? They should come clean and give cannabis oil and proven historical natural cures to cancer sufferers - it really works, stuff their chemo. I'm sticking with natural remedies as long as possible. Support your folks' naturally, Vitamin D3 in high doses (5,000 iu's per day), 1,000iu's Vitamin C if fresh fruit and veggies not available.
They don't thrive on hydrocarbon burning nanoparticles, that is a LOT different than CO2. Again, incomplete data only leads to confusion to people trying to understand.
There are some great threads on this forum about switching from hydrocarbon burning, fuel oil, gasoline, diesel, coal, or wood fires even.. Switching to clean energy with zero emission..
People are not going to do that, governments are not going to do that. There will not be a nuclear power tank, or a nuclear power diesel/electric train with zero emission of nanoparticles.
CO2 is being talked about as a green house gas, again, it misses the point of the thing that kills is NANO-PARTICLES.. the thread talks about how nucleation starts, and how visible exhaust emission happens, and it can happen from car exhausts or plane exhaust if conditions are right.
Call attention to hydrocarbon burning, explain that the emission of nanoparticles is what is causing the damage, that will handle anything which people are saying is coming from contrails being called chemtrails as "spraying".. It's logic, use science and explain it fully. That then can be put into a petition, explained in a way which may just point out that all the autos, all the coal fired power plants, all the jet exhausts, all the diesel lorry exhausts are harming everything, not from CO2 not from CO, but nanoparticles, either in NANO-SOOT or nano carbons.
Hi Bobd
I don't disagree with you, however if enough people make complaints politicians will have to respond. If you look at websites like www.38degrees.org.uk where anyone can start a petition they have actually forced the the governments hand on many occasions. If all members of Avalon were to start a petition to request say, the Government to investigate the existence or otherwise of free energy and we got a few hundred thousand signatures something would happen. Not only that it sends a strong message out that people are not going to sit back. Also it may even start getting into mainstream media. It's better than doing nothing
Regards
Ian
Hia Ian (Yelik) - I think it is great that you are suggesting people should do something, petition, call attention saying pollution of our skies must stop. I would take it one step further and point out where the pollution is coming from, and have information that backs up the petition. Petitioning for anything sure is done, it creates a level of useless noise that tends to get those folks out there who are decision makers to ignore, or worse, take offence to being told they are not doing what they should be to hear the people. Accurate websites not just emotionally citing "see! look at all the contrails, they are spraying see !" doesn't explain what is there, doesn't show the exhaust content in the water vapor clouds, nor does it explain the reason folks see water vapor, nor why what is in there, how the clouds formed, what toxins are in there as exhaust emission that such is dangerous "because:.. I point out when the particles are being seen as a vapor trail, they are larger than nanoparticles, and then because of that, are harder to cause damage (they are no longer nanoparticles).
Like acid rain can come from when there are sulfur dioxide nanoparticles in the air, when such has nucleated with water molecules, and form sulfuric acid.. Add the correct science and one can create a proper petition which then is justifiable and one would pay attention to the subject. I've pointed out in other threads as have other folks who have a LOT of science experience behind them, get science right, use that more so than using emotion to try to win over decision makers. It's only fair to them and the lay person, explain what really is happening. Nothing anecdotal.
I am all for people waking up to hydrocarbon engine emissions and what they do, when they are in the air or on the ground. And welcome to the forum :) -- blessings
yelik
11th May 2014, 00:34
Hi Bobd
Yes I agree the facts and science should be right, not sure how expensive it would be to commission the research and present a convincing report to them. They have deep pockets to run the science in circles. Politician are simple minded slippery snakes who are more concerned about public opinion and votes. If 500k people said Chemtrails were dangerous they would agree, and do something about it even if there wasn't a problem.
I think as a concerned group of people it is likely we will have to combine our efforts to fight single issue concerns, politicians cannot handle more than one simple question at a time, even with preparation. Unfortunately the subject areas we are concerned about has virtually no physical evidence whatsoever, so any campaigns we decide to do have to be focused. Asking politicians to investigate anything to do with say the ET agenda is not going to happen unless you had 10's millions of signatures. Incidentally I did write to Phillip Hammond, Defence Minister earlier this year about UFO's and multidimentional concepts. The RAF Strategic Air Command replied by saying That since the end of WWII they found no threat to UK airspace, so, they did not deny it.
Regards
Ian
Something that might be very helpful to anyone really wanting to know what's inside of the exhaust vapors is to use an instrument I have pointed out in about 3 threads so far when folks bring up chemtrails.. There is a very scientific apparatus called Optical Open Path FTIR, which is a type of industry standard spectrometer, that is able to do remote chemical analysis and quantity analysis at a distance.
Every time I mention it, people change the subject - interesting eh? Like actually documenting that there is no worry or there is a worry would point out once and for all, what emotionally is reaching a lot of people. They get stressed, and if there is no reason to get stressed, why should folks be concerned. To me it makes sense to find out what is in the hydrocarbon exhausts.
The solid data exists also on the pollution sources are hydrocarbons from burning said fuels. And the contrails are the result of the particles under the right conditions nucleating (becoming bigger and thereby visible) with water vapor.
A couple paragraphs referencing the science, the ways that have verified the toxicity in exhaust emissions, could be in such a petition, and with all that solid data explaining chemically what is in said exhaust emissions, one could draw solid conclusions. Without that, one is told, "nothing is there to be alarmed about" as you pointed out in the letter you got back from RAF Strategic command.
Here is a brief anecdotal, but related point about pollution toxicity, real pollution toxicity.. from LEAD..
Claire Cameron Patterson, a geochemist born in Mitchellville, Iowa, in the United States was involved in dating the age of the earth using lead isotopes and how they changed (decayed) over time. Of all things he was using one of those apparatus a "spectrometer", but that one measured mass (able to determine the isotopes).. Strangely, he found abnormal concentrations of lead where they shouldn't be, finally tracking such down to the lead was coming from leaded gasoline being burned. Some of the places it shouldn't be was in people.
The industry fought tooth and nail against him challenging the documented results. He started showing the world in 1965 the dangers, the values found, traced it back to hydrocarbon burning which fuels that contained contaminants.. Not until 1973 would the EPA say OK lets start to phase out lead from gasoline.. In 1986 21 YEARS later, the EPA in the USA said OK, no more lead in gasoline (at least for normal automotive use, although some airplanes are still allowed to have leaded fuels).. Lead levels within the blood of Americans are reported to have dropped by up to 80% by the late 1990s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clair_Cameron_Patterson is the reference to that..
My point is showing how a pollutant, a dangerous one, LEAD coming from hydrocarbon exhaust fumes was able to be stopped. It was stopped with unceasing scientific documentation and such was used against all the lobbies, all the politicians, and industry who wanted to keep the poisons affecting people. SO with lead removed, the fuels STILL contribute to damage, that is the point, and all of that can be documented, and put in websites showing the chemical emissions present, the concentrations present, and a caveat, that ALL hydrocarbon engines are doing this, not just jet engines at altitude..
Some folks say they are doing atmospheric modification using metal particles, in another thread i pointed out there has been a world wide directive against any form of atmospheric modification, and that treaty was signed by many nations.. That could be brought up to in any petition.. In other words, documentation can do wonders.
I am sure their are scientists who would jump on the opportunity to do a documentation effort, to cite the legal treaties being violated if metals are being aerosolized into the atmosphere by parties. Folks are using hearsay though, without showing the studies of the atmosphere. An OPTICAL open path FTIR pointed at such will show the chemicals, the quantities. Such is used all the time on factories, on power plants suspected of violating emission standards. Such systems are used "RAPID SCAN", for instance in the US to monitor wirelessly, optically and remotely, vehicle exhausts when they enter major interstate roads..
Hope that helps, I believe you can get the data needed. Dr. Dwight M.M SMITH, Research Professor and Chancellor Emeritus at Denver University, Colorado (http://www.du.edu/nsm/departments/chemistryandbiochemistry/facultyandstaff/), is a leading expert in nano-soots, how such particles damage the body. He has looked at fuel additives too, what they do to fuels. DU is also a pioneer in atmospheric sensing, remote sensing systems that can analyze optically the spectrum of the molecules present in the target being looked at. These systems use an infra-red telescope, so what the telescope is looking at can have it's substances determined in the spectroscope attached to it. Very straight forward. And then you have documentation that is irrefutable.
yelik
12th May 2014, 17:49
Hi Bobd
Who's going to take the bull by the horns? I agree with everything you are saying, I used to work in the family engineering business where we designed and manufactured equipment for the power generating industry, especially coal fired power stations. It took them many years to accept they were one of the major causes of acid rain that was killing vegatation in Scandanavian countries. They used electrostatic precipitators in those days, eventually they installed the lime scrubbing plants. One of the specialities we dealth with was to do with fuel distribution for efficiency purposes. More or less everything we are discussing on this site will at some point come to a natural conclusion and the only way foreward is to take the next step - physical action, if they have the desire to do so. This would need widespread support. Technically I see no reason this couldn't happen but my understanding is it more an exchange of knowledge and information rather than direct action. Obviously Bill's video's are widely respected because of his integrety and honesty, a powerful tool against the deceivers.
Top of the mornin' to you Ian - :)
Dr. Dwight M.M SMITH, Research Professor and Chancellor Emeritus at Denver University, Colorado, is a leading expert in nano-soots, how such particles damage the body. He has looked at fuel additives too, what they do to fuels. DU is also a pioneer in atmospheric sensing, remote sensing systems that can analyze optically the spectrum of the molecules present in the target being looked at. These systems use an infra-red telescope, so what the telescope is looking at can have it's substances determined in the spectroscope attached to it. Very straight forward. And then you have documentation that is irrefutable.
The folks at DU are really great, having done so much pioneering in remote sensing. They understand atmospheric physics, atmospheric chemistry, a LOT of fuel chemistry, all sorts of sensor technology - in fact Colorado allows them to setup vehicle remote sensing monitoring stations along the interstate highway surrounding Denver. Such allows the motorists to take a look at their vehicle's exhaust emissions over different days and different conditions.
Like when conditions are right (or wrong depending on how one looks at it), combustion efficiency changes. It could be changes in fuel components, changes in barometric pressure, moisture present in the air, dew point changes. One of the researchers there provided me some sealed "pollution" exhaust mixture in transparent glass tubes (nasty looking orange stuff), and provided a gas spectral analysis.. What I had been designing at the time was a very unique type of technology that clears the air of pollutants.. on average the technology provided a 48-51 % reduction in pollution, both particular, NO, SO, and CO components. I didn't design it for other molecular species, but it was a great test. We tested in Mexico City back in the 90's, Fort Collins Colorado, Phoenix Arizona, and Gizeh Egypt.
I'm no longer working on that technology (was in the 1995 time span) because folks just were not interested in funding actual projects to solve the issues after we showed it could be done and was cost effective for large 10x10 square mile zones.. Who knows eh, maybe it was a conspiracy :) to keep pollutants present so that TPTB could wack the ^$%^$# out of their citizens. Thing was though, the former Mexican president who invited our group to Mexico to do the demonstration was seriously interested in accomplishing a reduction of pollution. He sadly a few years later, no longer had influence with the sitting political party.
Go figure eh? times change.. maybe they will change for the better. I am point out solutions were present in 1995. And documentation methods using solid spectroscopic chemical analysis, remote sensing, are well established, and would clearly offer the proper case material.
I would suggest contacting DU for assistance in remote sensing and helping to get such documentation. The numbers and emails are in the link (http://www.du.edu/nsm/departments/chemistryandbiochemistry/facultyandstaff/) .
Bob
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