Monatomic silver, and properly -'charged'- one of the true philospoher's stone(s)

[Carmody]

Stolen from another thread, a post by me that I think needs it's own thread, so it is seen and can benefit more people.

colloidal silver. Or..Monatomic silver? The actual point behind colloidal silver is the smaller the particle, the more effective it is. Same for herbals, for the very same reason, in some cases.

The overall mentioned thrust is also effective in the design and implementation of dyes, inks, and pigments for the coatings industry. Not the 'charging' part, but divide, divide, divide part. Which is also part of the whole philosopher's stone thing. In the world of pigments, the smaller the particle, the more closely it reaches the true single structure state, the more it interferes with and shifts the light interactive frequency..and the stronger the given color. I am associated with a factory that makes the best pigments in the world better than they are... so I know this from the laboratory side, it is not just incidental musing here.


What one is doing when they make the philosopher's stone, is they are using different elements, in different chemical stewing methods..with different pH issues and TRUE momatomic or single molecule pure fluids, in order to have the true single atoms of the given fluids either boding to an atom to strip or add electrons and to them, when the atoms are in the true singleton state..to deform them through charge levels, electrical charge, or ph as it is known in chemistry.

In the world of spirits, the best time to see or encounter spirits is when WATER is condensing or dew is forming, as that is charged, deformed water molecules and so the dimensional egress is strong at those times. Thus the fall and spring are the times when the spirit dimension veil is considered thin. As well, the BEST way to make monatomics or the philosopher's stone is morning dew, as collected on the morning of a full moon, so it has the dimensional energies peaked at the right frequency and energy levels. Also, collecting these full moon morning dews works best in a place where the energies are powerful, ie on a grid line where many spirits are encountered. The growth and health factor of food grown in such areas is VERY high. Check out this link and note that this area is along a very powerful ley line or 'becker-hagens' grid line.

http://hamiltonparanormal.com/tunnel.html

As is holy water made in the correct cathedrals which are on ley lines and charged by the shape and design of the structures, ie the given cathedral is a giant focusing antenna. Same for 'hot spots' for spirit activity, native graveyards, etc.

In the case of making the philosopher's stone, the stewing is done for months at a time, in order to shift these metals into their true monatomic state and then add two of these atomic superdeformities and mono-atomic fluids and such together so they interact and between them create a REALLY superdeformed and strongly charged atom that.. when consumed, bonds to the DNA and nervous structure and allows for true dimensional energy egress and the joining of the two worlds into ONE.

Thus the deformation of the atomic structure gates dimensional energies through..and the given metal atoms bond to the already superconducting DNA (Yes, your DNA is superconductive, as directly stated by the US Naval Academy of Research, the official US naval offices, yes, indeed!)

Meaning, monatomic silver, not just colloidal silver...made at very low voltages, so the trace levels are minuscule and the silver can't ever be really tasted or barely so, in the finished mix. done every day, taken after making, immediately.

What I mean, is you put the electrodes in the water, distilled water, super clean, no minerals, no bits, no micro particles, etc. This allows the pH to be neutral at the start..and then the particles of silver made under very weak levels of voltage will be truly nano and monatomic, so the mix is exactly as effective as it has to be. The reason the water must be free of any contaminants is so the montomics form freely, in the proper shape and bond only with the water molecules.

The charge or strength of the mix decays rapidly, like oxygenated water..it must be consumed right way. You can't store it, you have to make it and consume. About 4 ounces of water, low voltage overnight- and the morning...consume. Same next day. Within a few weeks, you'll literally be flying in your dreams at the start. Then it starts to really get 'out there'.....

The trick to the philosopher's stone is to consume properly charged monatomics of the given platinum metals group...in order to become one with the gods, on all levels. each metal has a different effect. Gold is considered to be the dimensional crossing 'king of the metals' (sol invictus, etc), with regard to immortality and the crown chakra, IIRC.. This technique does the exact same, but with the platinum metal known as silver (silver is part of what is known as 'the platinum metals group)

I'm about to get back to the same, myself. However, be prepared to skip off the atmosphere into space, you'll be coming in so dang hard and fast on that regimen.

IIRC, the silver monatomics are associated with the Kundalini process, which means astral realms, the world immediately adjacent to this one, where spirits roam. You'd be setting your Kundalini on fire. Strap in and hang on, kinda thing!

I hesitate to lay anything at anyone's feet, even those who hope to help us and make a buck at the same time, but buying monatomic powders means that their strength decays quickly, so it's best to make your own, and as you take it immediately after making it.

It is a 'charging' issue...a electrical charge polarity thing for the given monatomic atoms and molecules, which is part of their forced deformation of their atomic structure so they properly 'gate' dimensional energies due to interaction with your DNA and nervous structure and spirit body.

MMS works on a polarity charge type action, so you can see the equivalence thing going on here, in that facet of bodily interactions, as well.

The big secret to all philosopher's stone issues has ALWAYS been knowing that they have to be charged like that to obtain the or reach the 'superdeformed' state, which decays over time.

There are massive amounts of the monatomics all the soils of the world in an oxidized form that is not recognized by western science, due to their 30 second arc burn spectroscopic testing,and it only shows up in a 300 second neutral gas type carbon arc burn.

when you make the colloidal silver like that, you are taking true silver based 'philosopher's stone' in weakened levels, on a daily basis... so a form of doorway opening of dimensional energy is only a matter of time.

Colloidal silver will cure the body of certain ills, but this method will also do the philosopher's stone thing at the same time, which is the real reason for doing it this way.

[bashi]

carm: there is a fundamental difference between collodial silver, MMS and their working principle on one side and ORMEs on the other.

[Anchor]

Colloidal silver's potency is not derived in the same manner as Homoeopathic potency. Certainly the smaller the colloids the better (as it can penetrate better etc) but that is not the same thing as dilution. The potency of CS is not based on the mass of silver per volume, it is the number of parts (colloids) per million as one measure, and smallness of the colloid as the other.

Homoeopathic potencies are actually higher when dilution is greater - which is freaking counter-intuitive - but who here understands all the mysteries of life :)


@bashi: what is an ORME?

[Carmody]

Orbitally Re-arranged Monatomic Elements. Basically... superdeformed 'oxidized' states of Platinum metals. One way of saying it.

David Hudson's name for his versions of the philosopher's stone, regarding the different potential elements that it could be made of. The platinum Metals group, plus copper, essentially.

[Anchor]

So, metals from some of each of Group 10 (Nickel, Palladium, Platinum and Darmstadtium) and Group 11 (Copper, Silver, Gold, Roentgenium) of the periodic table.

What is the process that causes the orbital rearrangement?

Is there a link you can send me to, or is it easy to summarize?

[Carmody]

He just patented the main platinum group. 8 of them, IIRC. He never ended up finalizing the patents, in the end. Read, or listen on ...for the full story.

Platinum, Osmium, Copper, Silver, Gold, Rhodium, Palladium, and Iridium. He used a chemical force method to initiate the change to the oxidized form, IIRC.

Here's the lectures, in there somewhere. If you like this sort of stuff, you'll find this utterly fascinating. The lectures are about 3 pages down, in mp3 form. I'm amazed that they can still be found.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/hudson/index.html

For example, in fluorescing dyes, the atomic structures are very small, right at the light wavelength frequencies, and they actually can, the right ones, emit more light than they 'take in'. ie, 101-103% reflectivity. For a while. then they 'weaken' and become neutral. This is why fluorescing colors go bland, over time. It is literally a case of atomic decay. As the superdeformed, or charged elements do. They weaken and cease gating dimensions.

According to Hudson,the soils are full of these deactivated "philosopher's stones"..and they just need to be 'charged' or reactivated. And that they, as they are, are the actual source of all life on the planet, with regard to DNA, DNA activation, etc. A diet high in monatomics brings health and longevity, strong immune systems, extreme growth factors in plants (400%) and direct human consumption of such does great things. The lectures indicate and explain how we mis identify these different oxidized forms of the PMG (platinum Metals Group) as things like 'iron, silicon, and aluminum'. Those three elements on their own are quite interesting. Aluminum-Kozyrev's works, Silicon - semiconductors and crystals, and Iron.....the new wunderkid in the world of superconductors.

It indicates, by entire thrust, for example, why The dead sea must be an occupied region. And the reason behind the rebuilding of Solomon' temple, with the plethora of horses. I'll explain why...it's called the waters of life.

Here's some interesting bits from Nicolas (alchemy illuminated):http://www.ehow.com/how_5734659_make-true-_elixir-life_.html

[Anchor]

Thanks - I think I will have fun reading some of this.

[Carmody]

Just so some balance is offered, Here, Nicolas slams David Hudson. scroll down to near the last of the text. Nicolas speaks on the superdeformation issue, but... to be fair, superdeformation of elements is a known thing, when in their mono-atomic state...so...who's slamming who here....

http://www.lost-academy.com/

[dAkapacity]

Thanks for starting this wonderful thread Carmody!

Here's the same mp3 interview with David Hudson in 15 parts. There's some extra written information about ORMUS. This looks very interesting digging into!

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xxdA.

[bashi]

carm:
"What I mean, is you put the electrodes in the water, distilled water, super clean, no minerals, no bits, no micro particles, etc. This allows the pH to be neutral at the start..and then the particles of silver made under very weak levels of voltage will be truly nano and monatomic, so the mix is exactly as effective as it has to be. The reason the water must be free of any contaminants is so the montomics form freely, in the proper shape and bond only with the water molecules."

any ideas about the voltage, current or electrode distances?

[observer]

any ideas about the voltage, current or electrode distances?

I would also be very interested in your comments on these issues, Carmody. This is what I've done so far:


I started with a 4" diameter glass beaker of distilled water.
I purchased about 24" of 8 gauge sterling silver wire from a jewelry supply house to use as two separate 12" long electrodes.
I started with five 9 volt batteries hooked in series, i.e. + to -, - to +, + to -, etc.
I allowed the five 9 volt batteries to discharge.

This produced a cloudy (light gray) residue suspended in the water. I didn't drink it.

I began to purchase colloidal silver from the local health food store. It's very expensive, and there is no real justification for the cost - based on how simple it is to make. If one just knew the 'tricks' to making it.

My next experiment will be using a 9 volt (ac to dc) transformer. The type that comes with your average throw-away-type electronic consumer product.

What I don't know is:

How do you know if you have enough ppm in your colloidal solution?
How long do you let the process go before it's ready to drink?
How long will it store?

[heyokah]

A ‘silver bullet’ against the common cold and other illnesses is being developed by scientists.
Tests show that arming bacteria with minute studs of silver endows them with the ability to combat viruses.
Norovirus, the winter vomiting bug, is unable to cause infections after coming into contact with the silver-impregnated bacteria.

Belgian professor Willy Verstraete discovered a way of ‘studding’ harmless bacteria often found in probiotic yoghurts with nanoparticles of silver, each thinner than a human hair.
Sprayed up the nose or rubbed into the hands, the silver-studded bacteria stop any viruses that cross their path from infecting cells.
As viruses need to hijack a cell’s internal machinery to live and breed, barring them entry leads to their death.

see also http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/silver-bullet-could-kill-the-cold-20101017-16p4b.html

Wonder if or when Big Pharma is going to step in and in what way.....

[Carmody]

It is best for the forum and all involved who may read this, that all in this thread that I have written up so far, anything I write up in the future on this subject, and any subject tied to it...is stated for informational purposes only.


The gray cloud is what happens when the voltage is too high and the solution has too many big particles in it. The smaller the particle the more monatomic or more of the single atoms of silver are in there....the more effective. Which is why you end up needing a low voltage supply, that allows you to control the process.

The problems are that..as the particles begin the permeate the fluid, the conductivity of the water/silver mixture goes up, thus more current can pass through it....more current means larger particles bring 'forced' off the silver electrodes. Larger particles is not so good, as those are the unwanted components. The grey cloud is what ends up coloring people's flesh bluish.

The voltages are very low, around 10 volts. This is not critical, as each set-up will be different. I've done it with a miniature aquarium pond pump (that I modified to really control the bubble size and flow rate to a minimum) to agitate the water and maintain even conductivity. This helps create a more uniform particle size, to some extent.

The best you will end up with is a mixture that straddles the needed particle size to some degree, as they go through a range and size of overall 'deformation and charge', due to 'water/silver mix' conductivity changes and voltage/current changes.

Making the stuff with very weak concentrations keeps the particle sizes effectively small, and the dilution is also good.

Another important point, is that you are drinking distilled water. Not much of it, but..distilled, or de-ionized water does have the minerals and particles removed from it and thus it may steal minerals from the body. So it is suggested that one be taking muti-vitamins and eating well at the same time, specifically with regard to the trace element mixes. Just normal dosages as are suggested by the given makes of the trace mineral and element mixes.

What would be best, is a power supply that decreases voltage, over time, as the conductivity of the water increases due to the level of silver in the water increasing the conductivity. As the current increases, the deformation of the silver atoms that are stripped from the silver electrode changes. Overall, with a single voltage being employed, the process goes through a 'range' of particle sizes. The 'initial to middle of process' particles being the culprits for the best level of deformation and charge the most beneficial. Which is why you start off with a low voltage and then tune the voltage, and electrode separation distance, and the time period the process take place in... for your particular set-up. Stability of the power supply on the micro current and micro voltage also count. These are variables I have yet to explore.

One has to experiment to get the voltages correct, as things will change according to how disturbed the water is, and how far apart the electrodes are in your particular set-up.. You see, as you have the conductivity of the water increase due to having silver in the water, the conductivity between the electrodes is increasing as that is where the silver is situated. Like a lighting strike forming, the current goes up over time.... and you end up with large silver particles, not true nano-silver. The large silver particles are unhealthy.

Alchemical works also suggest that one be healthy and with an attuned mind at the same time, and this applies here as well. The nano-silver that is 'charged' (polarized and/or charged) is an aid to an attuned mind.

The trick is a combination of time, voltage, electrode surface area, and distance between the electrodes. Each personally designed set-up will be different. Results will also vary according to attitude, health, sleep patterns, etc. Like any material, including all foods, the results will vary from person to person and and the parameters surrounding the given individual situation.

I JUST ran across a bit where Nicolas mentions/indicated that the white powder made from silver (as opposed to that made from gold) is better for astral realms, psychic activity, ghosts, etc..which is also my direct experience. This is indicative of Kundalini being involved, in some respects.

One also has to understand that I personally started off with a quite high genetic pre-disposition to psychic activity (I have 9 different genetic/ethnic backgrounds, going back no more than 4 generations). In many cases, it is more of a mental willingness to understand these 'worlds' in the first place. Most people on this forum are already in that mental space, to some degree, so that helps.

Think of the whole thing as a mini-course on individual and scientific discipline. You'll have to zero in on your particular situation to get to the most effective point. This will take time and trials.

[bashi]

Have you measured the flowing current during "good" production conditions?

[heyokah]

In theory, if you could nebulize the silver ions, people with lung disease could inhale this and kill bugs in lungs.

Also, historially, wealthy people used to eat off silver and because of this ingested tiny ammonts of silver into their bodies.

When the occasional epidemic would sweep through the area, the "blue bloods" who used the silver ware would be protected.

Natural therapy/complimentary practitioners and those who understand human physiology PROPERLY have been using silver for years.

By the way, it would be incredibly difficult to ingest enough to turn you blue/grey -

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On December 20, 2007 the world press published stories about Paul Karason, a California man whose entire skin gradually turned blue after consuming colloidal silver made by himself with distilled water, salt and silver, and using a silver salve on his face in an attempt to treat problems with his sinus, dermatitis, acid reflux, and other issues.
This happened because he drank gallons of colloidal silver per week for years

Argyria
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[Carmody]

Have you measured the flowing current during "good" production conditions?

I've never bothered to measure the current. I simply made it so the mixture was made over about 6.5-7.5 hours at around those voltage levels, and some variations thereof..and that's it. the current levels are minuscule. Low Milliamp(s) range.

Another was done for 24 hours, at low voltage. That was the most effective. Ie, I'd consume the nano-infused mix, and immediately set up to make more ...and then consume 22--23.5 hours later. Repeat. It was also situated in a dark cupboard, as light exposure is not good for it.

Recall that silver is used in the color photo-chemical process. Recall that in the Nazi bell experiments, that the mixtures were and are currently made (plutonium production, etc) via a photochemical process. Recall that Hudson said he dried the powders in the sun and they went 'poof' (huge flash and disappeared) from the exposure. In alchemical processes, the pharaohs would expose themselves to sunlight after consuming massive amounts of monatomics...and then shift dimensions. Recall that plants work via a light exposure method. Recall that man needs exposure to sunlight in order to have the body work at its optimum level of quality and function. Recall that light (exposure) can and does kill the bacteria in the body. Some of if not all of the superdeformation tricks of atoms that are being performed today involve coherent lasers firing at different angles.

Always store beer in a cool, dark place. Etc.

Thus, control the light exposure during it's making, Ie, no light exposure.

[observer]

In another Thread on this Forum, and sometime ago, I posed a similar question regarding colloidal silver production.

A response by the member HORIZONS led me to this website:

http://www.wishgranted.com/

As you can see, the suggested equipment is very expensive, and there is no reliable proof this is no more than what one can create by raiding the box filled with all your model railroad transformers from your storage. (relics from your youth in the 'fifties')

Without purchasing the suggested equipment, this particular source is not 'giving-up' any trade secrets - as I find your comments, Carmody, (although to some extent enlightening) to be 'general' in nature. I was hoping you could give more specific details regarding, measuring ppm of the solution, volume capacities of the 'generator', distance of electrode separation, etc.

Are you aware of any link to free comprehensive information on the subject?

[Carmody]

How do you know if you have enough ppm in your colloidal solution?
How long do you let the process go before it's ready to drink?
How long will it store?


1: You'll never know. Basically, it is a weak mixture, as that is the only method that creates a mono-atomic mixture. Anything else, creates atomic aggregate clumping- which is normal colloidal silver. Which we are not looking for here. We want mono-atomic structures which can bond to DNA and other bodily components at the base level.

2:I just addressed this. In this system here, the maker needs to grow into experimentation for their set-up and finds the balance of components/considerations that works for them.

3:It does not store, or last. At all. it must be made and consumed. Each day. That is the point. The charge and deformation decays over time... within hours... and exposure to sunlight during making or storage kills the effect.

I am the only source for this information, that I am aware of.

As for specific linear minded, written down, hard facts and specifics... there are none. I don't work that way. I tried that as a kid... as I explored whether to be linear minded or artistically minded. I found that linear minded has no real purpose as single mental state, other than the debasement of humanity. So I tried to balance the two. Think of it as being a touch alchemical, which is one of the heights of human endeavor. In the limits of human endeavor, every thing counts. What you had for breakfast three days before-counts. So it takes a mind and body that is balanced and then attempting the limits of expression. Which inherently means all the myriad ways.

The reson there is no specific set up is that that variations will cause issues. As well, the more important bit, is that you can think of it as a desires vs intelligence test. In alchemy, you can't simply write it down in plain words as an itemized thing. In that case, you end up with undeveloped souls running around in astral reams, dimensionally projecting, manifesting, out of control, all while being run buy the ego-monkey on their shoulder. Imagine Joe the Plumer, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ted Nugent, and the entire horde of Freepers..or any of such minded manifesting dimensional energies, bio-locating etc. Except, they not knowing the difficulties they will have, as when such things take place for the given person, well, imagine the fear of a body without an occupying spirit,and how the fear of the body would shape the sights and responses. The manifestation of fear, hate, ego, etc. Fred Flintstone and Ming the merciless in outer space, across dimensions. Not a pretty sight, and we have enough damaged spirits running around in the realms already.

All this would so, this technique, is give a taste, so that the given investigator might see what truly lies beyond the 3-d world. Just a taste. But it also involves effort, will, and discernment, as a barrier. A wisely erected barrier.

[Swami]

carm:
"What I mean, is you put the electrodes in the water, distilled water, super clean, no minerals, no bits, no micro particles, etc. This allows the pH to be neutral at the start..and then the particles of silver made under very weak levels of voltage will be truly nano and monatomic, so the mix is exactly as effective as it has to be. The reason the water must be free of any contaminants is so the montomics form freely, in the proper shape and bond only with the water molecules."



any ideas about the voltage, current or electrode distances?

In here is info, plain and simple...
You have to translate it, its in Dutch...
There's a link to Excell page which you can use for calculations with different currents and times...
I always get my electrodes here, pure and good stuff...!!

http://www.zilverwater.nl/

[observer]

So then Carmody, if I understand you correctly, you are saying there is a difference between colloidal silver (that which is used for beneficial immune system support) and mono-atomic silver (that which is used for access to other dimensional experiences).

[edit]

Thank you Swami for the link. I will look it over at my earliest convenience.

[bashi]

obs:
generally: the bigger the electrodes, the smaller the current per surface unit, the smaller the particle size. try pure silver coins (i use the maple $) suspended on silver-wire. put a 10000 Ohms resistor in series to it. it will limit the current even while "run away" conditions are prevailing in the solution. 1-2 inches electrode distance.
do not add salt. use good destilled water with a low TDS. keep the sunlight away.
you dont need an expensive set-up. total cost will not exceed 70 bucks (silver included)
the rest is practice and trial

[Swami]

obs:
generally: the bigger the electrodes, the smaller the current per surface unit, the smaller the particle size. try pure silver coins (i use the maple $) suspended on silver-wire. put a 10000 Ohms resistor in series to it. it will limit the current even while "run away" conditions are prevailing in the solution. 1-2 inches electrode distance.
do not add salt. use good destilled water with a low TDS. keep the sunlight away.
you dont need an expensive set-up. total cost will not exceed 70 bucks (silver included)
the rest is practice and trial

How to adjust the current flowing when ths silverparticles increase during the proces..?
I understood that when the silverparticles increase the current will flow easier and change accordingly to the amount of sliverparticles in the "brew"...

[Carmody]

So then Carmody, if I understand you correctly, you are saying there is a difference between colloidal silver (that which is used for beneficial immune system support) and mono-atomic silver (that which is used for access to other dimensional experiences).

[edit]

Thank you Swami for the link. I will look it over at my earliest convenience.

Yes I am. This does something a bit different, in my experience. It improved my health but the dimensional aspect just blew my mental lid right off. I could not stay in my body or sleep more than 1.5 hours a night for over 18 months. My mind never slept and some of it stayed with me. I now can have my body sleep, an my consciousness remain awake, fully aware that my body is asleep and feel the effects of a sleeping body, with no immediate control over the body.

As for the Joe the plumber thing, I've seen people on this forum and others mistake this incredible awakening effect as some daemon controlling their body so they could not move. This is not correct. They are awakening and are having their ego function confuse the moment.

[lightblue]

As for the Joe the plumber thing, I've seen people on this forum and others mistake this incredible awakening effect as some daemon controlling their body so they could not move. BULL****. They are awakening and are having their ego function confuse the moment.

are you equating "the awakening" and sleep paralysis?

what do you mean by "ego function confuse the moment"?

thanks l



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[bashi]

How to adjust the current flowing when ths silverparticles increase during the proces..?
I understood that when the silverparticles increase the current will flow easier and change accordingly to the amount of sliverparticles in the "brew"...

The brew will develop zones/streams in which the ions will flow more easily. that means a reduced electrical resistance, say from 50000 Ohms down to 1000 Ohms. normally you would just burn the silver away in bigger lumps. but the resistor prevents that. no adjustment needed.
so in the beginning you have maybe 50000 Ohms(solution) + 10000(resistor) = 60000 Ohms. the resistor makes less than 20% of the total resistance.
when the solutions resistance drops, then you might have say 1000 Ohms(solution) + 10000 Ohms(resistor) = 11000 Ohms. that translates to 1 Milli-Ampere of current if 11 Volts are applied.
the resistor acts as a throttle.
stirring the solution will improve the results.

[Carmody]

are you equating "the awakening" and sleep paralysis?

what do you mean by "ego function confuse the moment"?

thanks l


Just when I changed it to get the unnecessary emphasis out..oh well.

The point is one where awakening of the individual, ie the so-called ascension process involving the mind never being connected to the body's sleep cycle anymore. ie, consciousness remains while the body gets it's rest. A form of meditation, if you will. The initial times it happens feels like you 'can't move'. It is generally mis-identified as some sort of demonic possession or whatnot.

[bashi]

so then the fear-barrier can not be passed and the starting process of OOB is stalled....

[lightblue]

carmody:
Just when I changed it to get the unnecessary emphasis out..oh well.


changed what?



The point is one where awakening of the individual, ie the so-called ascension process involving the mind never being connected to the body's sleep cycle anymore. ie, consciousness remains while the body get's it's rest. A form of meditation, if you will. The initial times it happens feels like you 'can't move'. It is generally mis-identified as some sort of demonic possession or whatnot.




in your mind then, what is the correlation between "not being able to move" and the "ascension" as you understand it? thanks l



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[lightblue]

has anyone taken monatomic gold? seen some videos, it makes a pretty purple liquid...is it complex to make at home?



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[bashi]

Imagine Joe the Plumer, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ted Nugent, and the entire horde of Freepers..or any of such minded manifesting dimensional energies, bio-locating etc. Except, they not knowing the difficulties they will have, as when such things take place for the given person, well, imagine the fear of a body without an occupying spirit,and how the fear of the body would shape the sights and responses. The manifestation of fear, hate, ego, etc. Fred Flintstone and Ming the merciless in outer space, across dimensions. Not a pretty sight, and we have enough damaged spirits running around in the realms already.

All this would so, this technique, is give a taste, so that the given investigator might see what truly lies beyond the 3-d world. Just a taste. But it also involves effort, will, and discernment, as a barrier. A wisely erected barrier.

Yes, thats neccessary to avoid havoc. Everybody is different. Not everybody chooses to work on him/her-self. Not everybody is Neo in the Matrix, who can digest the rude awakening.
If you would be Neo, would you choose the blue pill or THE RED LION?

[lightblue]

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i wouldn' think monatomic gold is one and the same as the red lion.

don't know what you mean by the "neo" ...



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[bashi]

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i wouldn' think monatomic gold is one and the same as the red lion.

don't know what you mean by the "neo" ...



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[lightblue]

i've only ever seen 2 sci-fi films..not this one...

[rosie]

Interesting article that may go with this discussion. Almost sounds like the fountain of youth. ;)

Sacred Ayurvedic Waters

The sandstone chambers of La Maná, Ecuador gush with a sacred springwater subsequently discovered at the ancient subterranean habitation site. The La Maná springs still resonate an intense energy that has been the focus of thorough international investigation. This spring water is of such selective purity that it has been considered a technological feature of the inhabited cave. This situation is not unique, however, but part of a global system of subterranean sites with sacred rivers encircling the Orion pyramids of Giza, Egypt including Tlacote in Mexico, Iyacyecuj Cave in Peru and China's Huashan Caves.

The precisely selective content of the La Maná water has been documented in several laboratories around the world; its most astounding feature being spherical nanoparticles of gold and silver less than 10nm in size that are potent antibacterial and even antiviral agents. The curative potential of this water has yet to be confirmed by clinical trials, although it has been in use in Ecuador for over a decade, with surprisingly little international awareness or demand.

Electrum is the ancient alloy comprised of gold and silver that incorporates the ductile properties of the two precious metals while being inert, without any chemical reaction to water. Electrical conductivity in the human body is usually highest in the bloodstream, as its greater salinity allows greater conductivity than the less saline cellular water. However, a body fueled exclusively by colloidal gold and silver water of optimal nanoparticle size induces an extremely enhanced electrical conductivity, replacing one of the usual roles of salt in the body. As salinity reduces the ability of a colloid to suspend the nanoparticles, the virtual elimination of salt from La Maná electrum water allows for maximum suspension. The suspended gold and silver nanoparticles are highly reflective of light and sound alike, vastly increasing the resonant characteristics of the human body. Polarized light photography of frozen La Maná electrum water crystals, shown below, reveals the refractive qualities of a prism.
more at link:
http://www.humanresonance.org/water.html

[bashi]

I could not stay in my body or sleep more than 1.5 hours a night for over 18 months. My mind never slept and some of it stayed with me.

how does it timewise correlate with the silver-intake? did you start the intake and then the sleepless period started? After what time period?




I now can have my body sleep, an my consciousness remain awake, fully aware that my body is asleep and feel the effects of a sleeping body, with no immediate control over the body.


so you are in OOB? how long does your body rest?

[Carmody]

Yes, that's necessary to avoid havoc. Everybody is different. Not everybody chooses to work on him/her-self. Not everybody is Neo in the Matrix, who can digest the rude awakening.
If you would be Neo, would you choose the blue pill or THE RED LION?

Not much choice here. ;)

He and I were born about 3 hours apart, same day, same year.

[Carmody]

How to adjust the current flowing when ths silverparticles increase during the proces..?
I understood that when the silverparticles increase the current will flow easier and change accordingly to the amount of sliverparticles in the "brew"...

Not only does the silver particle flow rate increase, but the particle size does as well. You want the smallest particle size you can get, and that tends to occur near the start of the process of the whole thing. So I run it slow, or at low voltage and never get past the 'beginning' part. Thus, a very weak mixture, with optimum sized particles, for more of a monatomic effect, ie, nano particle sized, not atomic clumping, which is what happens as the current increases. The current (current is electrical flow) increases as the process proceeds,and it does reach a near 'runaway' point. Which is why you see some procedures use a light bulb as a resistor to slow the current flow. I would usually drink it on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning.

You cannot trade off high voltage to make it happen faster, either. A high voltage (think of voltage as pressure differences between two points) is going to create larger particles. So it's overnight, low voltage, and the result is a very weak but nano sized particle mix, and drank in the morning.

[Carmody]

how does it timewise correlate with the silver-intake? did you start the intake and then the sleepless period started? After what time period?

so you are in OOB? how long does your body rest?

Combined with a pure vegan diet,and 6 day a week workouts, and meditation, no television, no media. It started in about 1.5 months, or less. Then it was near impossible to stop. I had halos around lights at night, with starring, like people who take 'E' (Ecstasy) say they get. Except as a near permanent state, no end to it.

It took me quite awhile to figure out what the culprit was. Like in the film 'Meaning of Life' when Death points at the Salmon Mousse ;) as being the culprit , I pointed at the nano-silver mix/experiment I had decided to pursue, as being a key to the process.

In my experience, the astrological chart of the individual will point to the strengths and the flavor of the given result for the given individual.

[lightblue]

carmody:
I had halos around lights at night, with starring, like people who take 'E'


doesn't everyone see halos around lights at night? don't think you need silver particles for that, vegan diet, work-outs, taking E or anything...what do you mean by: "starring"? thanks l



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[Swami]

The brew will develop zones/streams in which the ions will flow more easily. that means a reduced electrical resistance, say from 50000 Ohms down to 1000 Ohms. normally you would just burn the silver away in bigger lumps. but the resistor prevents that. no adjustment needed.
so in the beginning you have maybe 50000 Ohms(solution) + 10000(resistor) = 60000 Ohms. the resistor makes less than 20% of the total resistance.
when the solutions resistance drops, then you might have say 1000 Ohms(solution) + 10000 Ohms(resistor) = 11000 Ohms. that translates to 1 Milli-Ampere of current if 11 Volts are applied.
the resistor acts as a throttle.
stirring the solution will improve the results.

I tried to measure the currunt with a multimeter, in serie, but I didn't get a results. Any idea why...?

[marsiantourist]

Hi Bashi. I have been making my own colloidal silver for some years now. I NEVER get a cold or stuff like that. There are instructions how to make your own CS under: http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm. Click the tag Colloidal Silver Info at the top or bottom. You will find all the info you need. Just be sure to use pure silver, not some metal of uncertain composition.
If I started bragging about the results achieved they'd haul me off to prison for infringing on Big Pharma's monopoly to poison everybody, therefore let's just say results were far better than I'd ever expected. Obviously, MDs are kept in the dark about this.

[observer]

Just in case you missed it, marsiantourist, thank you for posting this most valuable link. It was just what I was looking for....

[bashi]

I tried to measure the currunt with a multimeter, in serie, but I didn't get a results. Any idea why...?

why dont you post a pic of your set up? otherwise its hard to figure the mistake out

[bashi]

Hi Bashi. I have been making my own colloidal silver for some years now. I NEVER get a cold or stuff like that. There are instructions how to make your own CS under: http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm. Click the tag Colloidal Silver Info at the top or bottom. You will find all the info you need. Just be sure to use pure silver, not some metal of uncertain composition.
If I started bragging about the results achieved they'd haul me off to prison for infringing on Big Pharma's monopoly to poison everybody, therefore let's just say results were far better than I'd ever expected. Obviously, MDs are kept in the dark about this.

yes, good link. well known facts. a good set-up for creating a healing silver solution.
but we are talking about the relation of monoatomic silver to psychic phenomena here.
the set-up in the link you posted does not produce that.
see here:

"You will notice that quite a lot of the silver was not able to stay in solution and has ended up plating some of the glass and as a sort of sludge beneath the electrodes.
After we decant and filter our overcooked colloidal silver using an unbleached coffee maker filter and a funnel we will now need to get rid of the silver deposits on the glass."

The "carmody-procedure" does not produce any sludge, at least it should not. because monoatomic silver will not settle down, i think.
any sludge in the solution indicates BIG lumps of silver.

[bashi]

So I run it slow, or at low voltage and never get past the 'beginning' part. Thus, a very weak mixture, with optimum sized particles, for more of a monatomic effect, ie, nano particle sized, not atomic clumping, which is what happens as the current increases. The current (current is electrical flow) increases as the process proceeds,and it does reach a near 'runaway' point.

How do you prevent the forming of conducting zones in the solution? Just by low voltage?

[bashi]

Combined with a pure vegan diet,and 6 day a week workouts, and meditation, no television, no media. It started in about 1.5 months, or less. Then it was near impossible to stop.

Got the point: There is no Enlightenment Pill.

Have you started the intake at the same time as the other program?

[Carmody]

You need a millamp meter. Ridiculously low levels of current in the system is the case. Also, fundamentally and importantly... in the case of higher current levels...the polarization and agreeance in plasma function cause grief and is the root source/cause of the creation of larger particles.

This is part of why alchemists need to reduce materials to true monatomic levels and then..... over a period of several months, manipulate the monatomic mix cyclically through a dimensionally gating system of condensation repetition within the one sealed vessel so the complex gasses and the elements involved, interact repeatedly, over and over and over..and as one molecule switches to the desired state..then the next and finally it is a cascade of dimensional shifting..and this becomes the root mix, all resonating and stable as a shifted and energized mix of 'interesting' atoms.

As well, when some of the stone is made, this can be used to make more, and make more much more rapidly. It takes months and months and possibly years for the apprentice to get to their first batch. Following up with more is many times done in a matter of weeks, using the original finished stone as a 'seed' stock, exactly as the mono-crystal extraction is done in the CZ method of kiln based crystal rod extraction - in many fundamental ways.

The physicist David Bohm illustrated this effect in his analysis of plasma systems and how they react to impurities.

When condensation and temperature shift changes are highest in the atmosphere, in the fall and spring mornings.....and on the becker-hagens grid lines, that is the point of the greatest inter-dimensional spiritual manifestation. As the link to the 'blue ghost tunnel' so eloquently shows.

This is why the morning dew is the real consideration for making the 'stone' of philosopher's fame..., why underground bases and old megalithic structures, etc, and 'reptilian' dimensional rituals are on grid lines and where grid lines meet.

This also explains about:

human 'vibration' and 'resonance' and how the consuming of large amounts of the 'stone' by the pharohs would allow them to, in their whole being and spirit, to actually shift dimensions. (the David Bohm bit about plasma's acting in stable and perfected agreeance, and forming exclusion bubbles around impurities)

Then other things like Buddhist monks resonating together in Washington DC, stating ahead of time their calculated change in the crime rate that would occur from their meditation and this being the found reality in the final calculations after the meditation took place...so massed resonant (thought) systems in effect here....

This then becomes the Nikolai Kosyrev bit on aluminum showing the underlying scalar wave function that is beyond time, and then the spooky action at a distance, and then the US Naval Academy of Research Showing that DNA is superconductive and reacts throughout the body as a whole single system, well outside of nerve energy travel speeds, and that gold and platinum metals will adhere to the DNA strands....and if they are superdeformed and charged atoms that are dimensionally situated across 2 dimensions or gating dimensions...those Platinum metals...bonding to the DNA.....well...............................

I mean, we could go on and on here.


Have you started the intake at the same time as the other program?

Yes, essentially. I did start the two together.

Thankfully there is no enlightenment pill. Sort of. But, there is. And that is ....if someone who knows how to make the proper 'stone' gives it to someone else.

[bashi]

Have you started the intake at the same time as the other program?

[Carmody]

Have you started the intake at the same time as the other program?

see above! :p

[bashi]

Have you read "The Red Lion" from Maria S. ?

[Carmody]

Have you read "The Red Lion" from Maria S. ?

No I have not, but checking quickly on the amazon review of the 'novel',I'd say that: most who explore these subjects end up at a similar spot, but with their particular personal viewpoint on the overall subject coloring their thoughts and interactions with others.

[bashi]

Have you taken some alch.. stuff also while taking silver?

[Carmody]

Have you taken some alch.. stuff also while taking silver?

No, I have not. The monatomic derived silver, alone.

[bashi]

No, I have not. The monatomic derived silver, alone.

so how can you narrow the effects down to the silver? couldnt it also be the exercises?

you got a PM

[lightblue]

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not to be dismissed that hyperventilation while excercising, besides lightheadedness, can induce hallucinations and deja-vu like states... l



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[observer]

I have a personal skepticism regarding the 'expert' opinion of anyone associated with the highest levels of secrecy. For instance any member of the Order of Knights Templar of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. Or, a 'Knighted' servant of the Queen. With that particular caveat, I offer the following video on monatomic gold:

Gardner, Laurence - The Real Power of GOLD -


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2129165010048711403#

Sir Laurence Gardner is an expert (in the service of the Queen) on the subject and he makes quite a few interesting observations regarding the use and manufacture of what the Egyptians called 'mfkzt'. In all of the evidence from antiquity that I have reviewed regarding the manufacture of monatomic gold, I see nothing linking the electrolysis process to the manufacture of the substance. Everywhere the process has been identified from the archaeological record, there is evidence of large hewed quartz vats and evidence of burning.


What makes you think, Carmody, that you have stumbled-upon the process for making monatomic silver?
Have you ever reduced the solution to a powder-like state?
Have you ever had the results of your experiment analyzed?
Is everything you have offered in this Thread just your conjecture?

[bashi]

Hi observer,
how is your testing going on?

[Carmody]

Interesting article that may go with this discussion. Almost sounds like the fountain of youth. ;)

Sacred Ayurvedic Waters

The sandstone chambers of La Maná, Ecuador gush with a sacred springwater subsequently discovered at the ancient subterranean habitation site. The La Maná springs still resonate an intense energy that has been the focus of thorough international investigation. This spring water is of such selective purity that it has been considered a technological feature of the inhabited cave. This situation is not unique, however, but part of a global system of subterranean sites with sacred rivers encircling the Orion pyramids of Giza, Egypt including Tlacote in Mexico, Iyacyecuj Cave in Peru and China's Huashan Caves.

The precisely selective content of the La Maná water has been documented in several laboratories around the world; its most astounding feature being spherical nanoparticles of gold and silver less than 10nm in size that are potent antibacterial and even antiviral agents. The curative potential of this water has yet to be confirmed by clinical trials, although it has been in use in Ecuador for over a decade, with surprisingly little international awareness or demand.

Electrum is the ancient alloy comprised of gold and silver that incorporates the ductile properties of the two precious metals while being inert, without any chemical reaction to water. Electrical conductivity in the human body is usually highest in the bloodstream, as its greater salinity allows greater conductivity than the less saline cellular water. However, a body fueled exclusively by colloidal gold and silver water of optimal nanoparticle size induces an extremely enhanced electrical conductivity, replacing one of the usual roles of salt in the body. As salinity reduces the ability of a colloid to suspend the nanoparticles, the virtual elimination of salt from La Maná electrum water allows for maximum suspension. The suspended gold and silver nanoparticles are highly reflective of light and sound alike, vastly increasing the resonant characteristics of the human body. Polarized light photography of frozen La Maná electrum water crystals, shown below, reveals the refractive qualities of a prism.
more at link:
http://www.humanresonance.org/water.html

Observer:

As for analyzing my results 'scientifically'..show me anyone in this world that so far has brought forth such data.... and survived it.

As for truth on the level of the alchemists, show me something they have done over the millennia that required rigorous scientific proofing for it to 'be real'. Then, see the above sentence.

As for proofing this, Note I stated in the first part of the thread, that this thread was and is for informational purposes only. Etc. The logic is in place. The data and results are of a self proofing nature.

if you make colloidal silver on your own, then making it this way should be as simple as can be. My advantage is that I have about 3, no 4 variable power supplies around the house. (electrical sciences). So I can dial in what I want.

The logic has been laid out.

High voltage, big particles.

Correct (lower) voltages for colloidal silver begets---correctly sized particles.

Thus..logic dictates that of you go to even lower voltages..then..the particles are even smaller. but..there are fewer of them. If they are monatomic..truly monatomic..then they may be more useful than simple colloidals.

Try the experiment out by making the stuff overnight (16 hours) at extremely low voltages. Ie, under 4 volts. Longer time periods, go to even lower voltages. Since silver micro particles are used in film, then it is only basic sense to consider protecting the mix from light, and consuming it ---without allowing much light exposure. reports on activated monatomics and how they are made..seems to support such thinking. Do whatever you want. However, what you first reported in this whole thing, about using some 9 volt batteries, that is normal colloidal making and the entire point of the thread stated quite clearly that such a method was Not the point or the direction to be going in. It also states quite clearly to use your head', ie, think on your own - this, as a natural barrier.. What was done then, is that you illustrated that the main point of the thread seems to be lost on you. It is not a specific recipe, it is a direction in thought and experimentation.

I wish you no harm, and have nothing against you, and I hope the best for you...but please do not come at me that way. It is not right.

If what I'm saying is wrong ...then explain the waters in Ecuador.

PS. Laurence Gardner died in 2008, IIRC

[heyokah]

As the human body will probably have a very extremely low voltage, we might just as well go asleep with a silver spoon in our mouths,
or wear as many gold jewelry day and night as the Ancient Egyptians did to get into 'altered states'....
Jewelry such as anklets, collars, bracelets, fillets and earrings embodied everyday Egyptian dress, so much so, that even in death the poorest of individuals would still be found wearing a string of beads or a simple bracelet

A secret revealed ???

[Carmody]

Proximity to electrical fields has always affected people's health and their spiritual health.

The body works on very subtle electrical levels.

pH differentials in fluids is another way of saying electrical differentials in fluids. this also encompasses some aspects of molecular polarity, ie affinity, etc.

In the body, in the blood, where all chemical and electro-chemical exchange goes on in the 'primary' sense..the blood's pH is constantly and continually held to a perfectly neutral 7.0. If it drifted at all, you'd be dead in nearly seconds.

The indication is that very minute levels of these ph differentiated and modified atomically separated Platinum metals is all that is required to shift the the supercopnductive aspects of DNA in the body to allow the neural considerations to access dimensions.

Ergo, the thrust of this thread.

Which is to run this colloidal suspension system of colloidal creation... via very low levels of voltage and current, in order to create monatomic level particles or (single digit nano sizing) nano sized silver, and hopefully 'superdeformed'. In a way that mother earth does it in the case of the making of the monatomic elements.

Alchemy is of a similar nature and it is important to understand that: in order for this to take place, in alchemy, the gold or member of the 'platinum metals group' is ground as fine as possible, and ph differentials are introduced to the mix..and at least ONE or even two of the alchemcial process components are a PURE MOLECULAR LEVEL INDIVIDUALLY FREE FLOATING component. As in water. Another used is Mercury. Then antimony is also used at temperatures that keep it fluid. The individual atomic situation reactive components are required in order to get the individual molecules to shift or deform. This means something that is of the correct material and it must be a molecular level true fluid.

Then, the mix is thermally cycled through the fluid/gas state over and over, in a sealed flask, for months, at very specific temperatures and with no external electrical influence (gas flame, etc) and the mix finally slips..molecule by molecule..into an altered state of charge and molecular orbitals (electron orbitals and associated states). And thus the charge and deformation of the materials is different. Like a bunch of tiny balloons that have been physically deformed (one by one) in a certain pattern (one by one) that are locked together in a pattern that is different than their normal locking together.

To this, is added a secondary material that is made in the same way as the first. (a differently deformed and constructed balloon) The third operation takes the two deformed and modified molecular mixes...and this third 'heat-cool', 'fluid-gas-solid' repeat distillation in a tightly sealed vessel creates a VERY powerful super-deformed monatomic mixture which WILL send the person consuming (at very minute levels, I might add! single dose, 1/1000thof a gram!) it----straight into the spiritual stratosphere.


However, these methods (the origins of chemistry, and alchemy is high level chemistry) are not shared with the general public as alchemy is all about getting your internal 'crap' straight first or co-currently with the preparation of the philosopher's stone. The reason is that consumption of the material for the unprepared mind is very dangerous to the stability of the individual on so many levels that it cannot be cognated (understood) until the person is actually there. It is also dangerous to have undeveloped persons banging around in the spirit world as then we can get more disturbed souls out there, not less. The idea is to prepare the self, first. We don't need psychopaths with dimensional energies at their command, we need more saints with that at their command. And the fear of the body when doing this for the first time, and the level of development of the mind -can and will wreak total havoc in one's life, if they are not prepared. this has been the case..every single time. You think you are ready, but you are not. ie, you have not one clue to what you are up against. Imagine being stuck on extreme levels of acid (LSD) with no way to ever come down. That situation would be largely a joke in comparison to the doorway we are talking about here. If you have a job, a life, a family, etc..you know..general 'life in the western world'...and you were to take the true philosopher's stone in a powerful way..you can pretty well, in what would likely be 99 cases out of 100, - consider that life to be over. You would not emerge from it as the same person. You would very likely spend months like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nWYNFwRRCU

You would alternate between that and 'ultimate euphoria and mental expansion' more times a day than one month old babies cry. For months on end, with no breaks. Not one. Your world and understanding would be shifting as hard as your mind can process it, at your limit and well beyond.


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In this case, we are playing with the silver and the water (the fluid single atom or single molecule side of the equation), via electrical charge differentials that create VERY minute levels of monatomic silver..and the moantomic silver is temporarily charged in a minor offset manner.

thus the situation outlined in this thread. A potential for a minor difference in the given individual so they maybe or maybe not will be able to crack the veil open, to take a peek. In that case, taking care of one's health is also important as this method and attempt... is not the virtual 'sledgehammer' of the true philosopher's stone..which opens the door regardless.

This is a way of wearing something akin to 'rubber baby buggy bumpers' for those who might like a simpler way to take a peek. If it indeed works for them. which is an individual situation.

[heyokah]

Amen.

After reading this whole heap of words I now know for sure
that I will stick to my silver spoon and jewelry.

Carmody, by all means, stick to your ideas if they suit you.

[bashi]

Amen.
Carmody, by all means, stick to your ideas if they suit you.

Sorry hey,
but i think you should not belittle someone who tries to communicate some results of his research/experience. If these things are too weird, then let me tell you that i know that Carmody has not yet opened up completly, because he tried to avoid responses like yours.

[heyokah]

Sorry Bashi. (btw I have a name as well)
I don't think there was any communication here. That's the problem. It's more a monologue.
So I quit and Carmody should stick to his ideas/ research/ experience, as it is his thread.

[Carmody]

If one wishes to experiment some more, then they can look in areas of thought like this, which is or can be similar to the manufacture of nanotubes and nano materials. It is interesting that there can eventually be a line drawn through many of these attempts and emergent sciences. Just trying to help speed these things along. As I did in the mentioned fields in the appropriate forums under a different pseudonym in the past 5 years:

http://pesn.com/2010/10/28/9501715_Square1_Energy_Hydro-Maxx_interview_on_TheSmartScarecrow_show/

"Square 1 has often seen cells produce 70 times their normal gas output by optimizing the pulse trains and wave shapes."

[Carmody]

The contention by Hudson was that the earth soil contained a massive amount of monatomics. We know that the contended monatomics are created via thermal cycling of materials under various pressure gradations in a cyclic manner. We know that they are created via the pressuring states of molecular electocharge and electro polarity differentials, and that pure water, and mercury as well can play a role in it's creation.

It was recently announced that the moon has considerable amounts of water. It was also noted that the moon has massive amounts of mercury, and overall, a s much mercury as it does water. We also know that the moon rotates it's face to the sun, and undergoes large temperature changes on it's surface. For a very long time. The potential is there for photo chemical effects. That's a lot of mercury for the surface of the moon. It's anomalous and unexpected. There has to be a reason.

Interestingly, for me, it is a case of finding out that the moon is seemingly made out of actual Quicksilver - On Halloween night.

[Carmody]

Someone asked me for this and this thread is more appropriate for the response, I think. But that's just me.

Chicken and fish, no red meats. limited chicken and fish.

Glass bottled water only, no plastic. green or brown bottles.

No alcohol.

No narcotics.

No addictions. No sugars, no 'habits'. CLEAN. (A Natural, ancient diet-what your body is designed for)

And then the rest. That's how I got there. (charles' diet is this bit below)

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Originally Posted by Bill Ryan View Post
I asked him a short while ago. It's pretty simple:

* Organic if possible
* He does eat meat
* No processed or irradiated fruit or vegetables
* No MSG (monosodium glutamate)
* No bottled water
* Fruit juice to drink
* Water boiled and filtered (from the tap) - when at home
* Black tea
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Combined with self hypnosis. Hypnosis centered around the idea of going back, back, back, back to all the years of my life back to my childhood, back to before the age of 5, then 4, then 3, then 2 then one, then a newborn..then birth, the womb and then...boom. Right through into 'between lives'. Right there. Like Newton does it, except self-induced.

That's when the whole thing breaks loose. (ie, in the 'before the womb' state) This was about a three month process. Slow and steady with great care and accuracy on my origins and understandings of them, as one needs to be clear. If not, the ghosts of one's past color the results, like unwanted shapers and filters. Where at least some of the satanic childish stuff comes from, the whole sex thing, etc. That's sometimes unclear people messing with their ego's animal functions, while channeling energies like that, and having their understandings (And resultant expression of energies) be screwy like that, due to not being 'clear'. The mind/ego creates phantasms, images, etc, as it's fears are Being excited, as you are digging into the reasons for it's polarizations and it's idiosyncrasies.

This at the same time I was doing kundalini exercises in mediation. up the spine, learn to control. Then the memory and all the blocks came off at the same time..and I felt like I was going completely mad for about 2 months or more. I mean in a very serious way as the door is fully open, everything comes in.

Then you are in the sleepless state, and in the chute- in the zone. Good luck keeping one's sanity. It's a tough ride.

~~~

I combined that with the monatomic (charged/polarized) silver (outlined in this thread), which may not be necessary for some of you. I do not know, for in my case.... I cannot separate the item, it was part of the mix for me.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Is there a way to measure the change of effectiveness of colloidal silver as it may vary over time and exposure to sunlight? There is so much conflicting information concerning the effects of time and sunlight. I have available a Hanna PWT (http://www.silvergen.com/ppm_meter.htm) and a digital multimeter to work with.

[Carmody]

Silver is used in photography. The color red. The dragon. The lion. etc. Good ole' alchemical colors.

I've no idea, specifically. My personal preference is no light exposure at all. This could be completely wrong... but working from the idea of photochemical analysis, there might be enough validity to it, so that's how I did it.

If you've read the thread, this is about very weak mixtures. When using low electrical flow rates...you get the smallest particles. Mono-atomic, in fact. As well as holding a 'charge'/polarity differential. This is why I specifically say, make it at low voltage, overnight, in a dark place ...and consume immediately.

[astrid]

Hey Carmody , thanks for posting this here.

The whole Monotomic silver thing is new to me, sort of...
I have been using silver cutlery for, well along time now,
so maybe not too new.

The whole Alchemical area has always fascinated me, so its now given me a whole new area of study...
I would like to try this, so i will look into this further.

On the diet side, i need a bit of a clean up, im pretty healthy but
I still eat some sugar, (raw) drink coffee and sometimes red wine, so that will have to be addressed.
And i would like to dump the dairy also, as i drink milk .

I think i will quit milk first and only drink black tea and coffee.
then cut my coffee right back after that.


I also sleep way too much, always have-
maybe my tiredness is related to not being totally "clean"

I don't do drugs, although i used to be on ADD meds, but not anymore.

Alrightly, first thing is to remove all milk from the house, step one!!
I might take some notes as i go to see if i notice any differences.

[Carmody]

milk is ok, IMO, as cows are happy when they are milked. Orgasmic, in fact. Milk, fresh milk, not pasteurized, has a very happy vibe.

Allow me to illustrate.

The other day, I had the bad idea of eating two quick food (large outfit like McDonald's, but actual hamburger). I'm very sensitive to the vibrations and what I take on.

I ate the two burgers and went into a deep downward spiral, starting about 10-20 minutes later. I was full of anger, full of fear, worried that the world was going to die, that I was powerless. That I was marching to my death and all friends, family, all I knew was going to be and was being slaughtered. This is how the world is going but this just threw me into a nightmare spiral. I was going to die in this machine and there is nothing I could do about it.

I was basically swearing, cursing and crying, all at once. Rage, pain, loss. It lasted about two hours. Then it went away, it abated. As fast as it came, it was gone.

It was the DNA in the beef.

That's how the cow meat I consumed, that is how that particular cow lived it's last moments, how it died.

And there's all your farming of animals in absolute cruelty, what it is doing to us humans -to consume that product. Kill the animals as violently as possible--feed it to the people. True? yes and no. But true enough to be effective, which is what counts in the end.

~~~~~
Thus the proper making, polarization and the proper charging of monatomics is key to their consumption. Alchemists must make their product at the right time, the right place, the right way, and in the right frame of mind.

Same for all foods we consume.

[bashi]

High folks,
good to see this thread going.
Apart from theory, let’s be practical and materialize things.
Based on Carmody’s description, I have designed a cheap and simple silver-genny, which is given VERY good results.
Once you have understood the principle, then it is easy to build your own.

Important is: To generate as small silver particles as possible.

The size rules for the electrolytic generation of silver are:

1. The higher the voltage, the bigger the particles
2. The higher the current per area-unit of the electrodes, the bigger the particles

From there it is clear what to do:

1. Use low voltages on big electrodes
2. Make sure that there will not occur a situation where high currents are flowing

That is easier to accomplish than you might think.

Here the basics:

Many people have an old mobile phone charger tucked away for some future use. This is how you can use it now. I used one of these chargers to built the most (likely), cheap, effective and long lasting colloidal silver generator, ever made public on the net (well, maybe..). Through its design a lot of mono atomic silver atoms can be produced which will positively effect your health and will do much more. If you drink the solution generated by this type of genny, then you will now what I am taking about.

What you need:
- a small glass container with lid
- an old battery charger which gives you a voltage between 3 to 9 Volts DC
- a TDS meter (which displays Total Dissolved Solids in ppm)
- a multimeter
- a lustre terminal
- 2 resistors
- pure silver wire, 1.5 to 3 mm diameter
- 2 Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins
- destilled water
- glue which remains a bit flexibel after hardening
- a drilling machine
- some skills

It is not essential that you have a TDS- and a Multi-meter, but they will make sure you get the optimal out of your small genny.

Pictures are worth a thousand words, so here is one of my gennies:


Top:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/641/gennytopcrop.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/gennytopcrop.jpg/)



Side:

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/908/gennysidecrop.jpg (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/gennysidecrop.jpg/)




Open:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/87/genny1.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/genny1.jpg/)


Here what to do:

Lid
Fix a four slot lustre terminal on top of the lid, after you have drilled holes into the lid at the same distance as the outer terminals have to each other.
Use a block of plastic (in my case wood) to mechanically stabilise the terminal’s position on the lid. Excessively glue everything, but make sure that from inside the lid you can insert the silver wire into the outer slots of the terminal:


http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3561/bottomcrop.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/bottomcrop.jpg/)


If the lid is metal, then cover all scratches on the inside of the lid with glue. That will prevent corrosion.

After the glue has hardened (1 day), then comes the


Wiring
Use the inner two slots for the power coming from the charger. Then connect from each slot a small resistor towards the outer slots. The outer slots will take from the inside the silver-wires.
Make sure the wires are not touching the metal of the lid.Drill the coins and hook them onto the silver wire:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4214/topcrop.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/topcrop.jpg/)




Schematic:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6633/diagramm.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/diagramm.jpg/)



Resistors
Use 2 cheap, standard resistors which are available at any good electronic store
Use different resistors for different voltages of the charger:

3V DC: Use two 33.000 Ohm resistors; called 33K
6V DC: Use two 56.000 Ohm resistors; called 56K
9V DC: Use two100.000 Ohm resistors; called 100K



here some small resistors below the TDS meter:


http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2150/tdsandresistors.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/tdsandresistors.jpg/)


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[bashi]

It is a MUST that you use a DC power source.
This genny here uses 9.6V DC with two 100K resistors

Why the resistors:
- They will make sure that a very low voltage is applied onto the water. In the beginning it will be approx 1.5 to 2.5 Volts only. After the solution has become more conductive, this voltage will drop automatically below 1 Volt.
- They prevent a run away situation inside the water: Otherwise there will be areas in the water which will generate more ions which then allow for more current to flow, which will further increase the ion content, etc…
- They prevent an over-saturation of the solution, because as more ions are in solution, the lesser the resistance becomes, which will lower the voltage drop and decreases the ion-size and numbers. If I let my genny run for 24 hours, then the solution will have 5 ppm Silver; if I let it run for 48 hours, then it will have only 6 ppm.
- They prevent a damage to your power supply in case the electrodes will shortcut.


Tip:
Make sure that the length of the silver wires places the coin’s lower rim at the bottom of the cup. That will reduce the water consumption. For convenience: Mark the level required to cover the coins:



http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1504/filling.jpg (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/filling.jpg/)




Purity:
Make sure the silver wire is meant for silver generators as an electrode. It has to be at least 99.95 % pure. Do not use any “silver-wire” before being sure that it is at least that pure; otherwise you are playing with your health. The coins are the electrodes. Use ONLY
Canadian Silver Maple, nothing else. It is the purest silver coin in the market and easily available. It`s purity is 99.9999% Ag.
Use only good distilled water with a TDS of 0 (Total Dissolved Solids). Not every distilled water is that pure; some have 1-2 ppm TDS and these are NOT suitable for your mono atomic solution.


Coins:
The coins are electrodes which have a very large surface.
It is essential that you clean the coins after drilling to make sure no other piece of metal from the drill is sticking on them. Use tab water to clean at the first stage. Then flush the coins and the glass 2-3 times with distilled water.
You have to work clean otherwise it will not work.
We are talking about silver-solutions of 5-10 ppm.
Normal tap water has TDS of 300-500 ppm! A single drop of it will contaminate your solution.

After using the genny for some time, you will see that the negative electrode will turn whitish dull. Don’t worry, that’s only silver which has migrated from the other electrode: The positive Silver-Ions will deposit themselves onto the negative electrode.


Here you can see the Electrodes. The negative is at the bottom. It is whitish-dull, while the other is still reflective:


http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7100/coinsmilkycrop.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/coinsmilkycrop.jpg/)

Just leave that deposit there, it is not influencing the proper function of the genny. No need to clean, because you might just contaminate it instead of cleaning it.

I use my silver genny like this: Early morning, first thing is to drink my solution and refill it. That is before tooth brushing etc. At that moment the empty stomach will take everything what it gets. After refilling it: I wrap a dark cloth around it and let it run for another 24 hours. It is that simple, a 1 minute hassle!

Any questions?
Otherwise i wish a good flight !

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[astrid]

milk is ok, IMO, as cows are happy when they are milked. Orgasmic, in fact. Milk, fresh milk, not pasteurized, has a very happy vibe.

Allow me to illustrate.

The other day, I had the bad idea of eating two quick food (large outfit like McDonald's, but actual hamburger). I'm very sensitive to the vibrations and what I take on.

I ate the two burgers and went into a deep downward spiral, starting about 10-20 minutes later. I was full of anger, full of fear, worried that the world was going to die, that I was powerless. That I was marching to my death and all friends, family, all I knew was going to be and was being slaughtered. This is how the world is going but this just threw me into a nightmare spiral. I was going to die in this machine and there is nothing I could do about it.

I was basically swearing, cursing and crying, all at once. Rage, pain, loss. It lasted about two hours. Then it went away, it abated. As fast as it came, it was gone.

It was the DNA in the beef.

That's how the cow meat I consumed, that is how that particular cow lived it's last moments, how it died.

And there's all your farming of animals in absolute cruelty, what it is doing to us humans -to consume that product. Kill the animals as violently as possible--feed it to the people. True? yes and no. But true enough to be effective, which is what counts in the end. .

Wow...Carmody, what a trip. Now i know why i stay clear of fast food, i can't even stand the smell of it, and it never looks like real food to me either.

The only thing "take-way" "fast" food i eat is usually a fish sovalaki, (like a kebab) made fresh grilled fish, and with loving hands from local fish and chip shop.

Lucky where i live we have a community of great producers i can access, and when i move and resettle i'm hoping to join their list of growers too.

I'm yet to find a fresh milk source, im still using supermarket milk which is probably full of flouride, etc also.
But i recently met someone local who does go direct to a dairy and gets milk BEFORE they process it, so i just have to find out where that is...
Until then im going to not drink milk.

I also fully subscribe to the idea of blessing our food, and having a high vibration myself when im cooking.

Now on to the Monatomics .
As this is totally new to me, can you please explains to me the benefits, and are their any risks, can u do this wrong and get sick??
Of course if i was to try this i would follow instructions- but just getting my head around it at this point.

It seems to be a daily practice, what differences have people found before and after taking it??

[Trail]

carm: there is a fundamental difference between collodial silver, MMS and their working principle on one side and ORMEs on the other.

Affirmative!

Monoatomic gold/orme could even be dangerous, a warning by Ashayana Deane:

White Powder Gold. By Ashayana Deane (formerly known as Anna Hayes)Copyright 2000There are numerous new concoctions of this stuff now surfacing . . .all basically the same substance called "White Powder Gold", at various levels of strength. The Mono-atomic Gold is a milder version than some, but I would consider the following carefully before using it.White Powder Gold has ancient roots to Egypt and beyond. In 1998 I was given a body of data on that substance from the Guardian Alliance, which I never had time to typeset or publish.The Guardian Alliance says White Powder Gold and related substances create a temporary improvement in body conditions, and in spiritual expansion experiences, and at the same time they erode the first 3 Strands of the DNA Template, by creating "Molecular Compaction". The substances temporarily "fire" the dormant codes in the higher dimensional DNA strand Templates, releasing bursts of higher frequency into the DNA template, creating temporary "windows" to the higher dimensions and giving the physical body a temporary boost. But the firing of the higher strand codes, before the lower strand templates are activated enough to process those frequencies, creates "frequency overkill" in the lower strand template (LSD type drugs do this too). The higher frequencies begin to crush the natural crystalline arrangement of the scalar-wave grids in the lower strand templates, like a hammer on a quartz crystal cluster. The lower strand templates progressively erode, creating mutation in the physical DNA, and deterioration in related body systems. (The Internal Bio-Regenesis Techniques from the Guardian Alliance fire the higher strand codes, but they simultaneously work to activate the lower strand codes to receive the higher frequencies, following the organic sequence of the DNA template in bring in the frequencies of the higher dimensions of consciousness . . . this is the natural way, and does not harm the DNA template or body).I am told that White Powder Gold substances create a pattern of addiction in the body over time, they are progressively needed to maintain the general health once the lower strand DNA templates begin to unravel; this creates a viscous cycle of more gold = more template decay = need for more gold. Eventually the strand templates mutate the physical DNA and accelerate one's unnatural passage to the otherworlds. Modern science knows nothing of the DNA templates or what substances affect them, so they can't really tell anything about the substance except that it appears to create beneficial results "on the outside".No offense intended to the people involved with manufacturing or taking Mono-atomic, but I have come to trust the Guardian Alliance opinion on such things due to the extensive information they provide on the DNA template functions, so personally, I wouldn't touch the stuff.Natural forms of Silica supplements assist in the general well-being and DNA activation process, and the Guardian Alliance supports the light to moderate use of such supplements (they also say aloe vera juice helps the body clear the more rapid release of toxins associated with DNA Template activation. There is a whole book waiting to be translated on the Vibrational Compatibility of Foods and Supplements with the human body and DNA template, but there are a few books first to write before we get to this one).Regarding White Powder Gold-type substances, I do know, from clear reincarnational memory, that a strong version of the stuff was used in the Pharaoh days, and a Pharaoh I once knew did himself in and finally went insane from using the ancient White Powder Gold to achieve "enlightenment".I am also told that the ancient Sirian Nibiruian Anunnaki and Nephilim harvested earth for the element of gold because they had found a way to make a version of White Powder Gold that could be ionized into the air of their planet to create longevity of their biology. What they didn't count on was that it created genetic dependence on the artificially manufactured substance, and if progressively higher concentrations were not imbued into the air, their bodies sickened and died rapidly. After depleting their gold elemental supply, they turned to earth to harvest the element for production of the White Powder Gold-type substance, to sustain Nibiru's atmosphere. Somewhere along the line they received some kind of genetic repair assistance from some other stellar race (Hathors, I think), that weaned them of the White Powder Gold dependence so they no longer needed to have the stuff in their planetary atmosphere, but their race still bears the genetic damage caused by use of the stuff.The Guardian Alliance warned me about White Powder Gold in 1998 (before I ever heard of Mono-atomic), saying that the Drakonian Kurendara race of Nibiru (Nephilim-Dracos hybrids) were reintroducing the recipes for White Powder Gold on earth to help digression of human culture and malfunction of human DNA. According to Guardian Alliance, they introduced it as a "quick fix" for spiritual enlightenment, knowing that it would wipe out the integrity of the first 3 DNA strand templates, so humans would no longer be able to hold the natural activation of the higher DNA strands and the levels of consciousness that correspond to them. Now, the substance is making it into the mainstream, with some sci-tech versions being contrived, and nobody really knows (except perhaps the star races and the Kurendara Nibiruan) where the great inspiration to make the stuff really came from. Food for thought when considering White Powder Gold products.
Light, Love and Spirit's Blessings, Ashayana Deane (formerly known as Anna Hayes)


Collodial silver is another thing already properly described in this thread, and it is not monoatomic.

The philospoher's stone.. well here's a really good starting point with more info:
http://montalk.net/gnosis/174/the-philosopher-s-stone

[Chuck]

Carmody and Bashi

I can't thank you two enough! I have researched this phenomenon 15 years ago for about 5 years. I tried all sorts of experiments, apparatus equipment etc with mixed results.I spent countless hours researching, asking questions, etc which was part of the journey to know self to begin with heheheh....

Anyway, what you two have shared is so valuable! It will literally save years of research and countless dead ends for anyone wanting to follow this path. Thank you

This has re-ignited a dream that I have given up on. I hope the coming days/weeks will allow me an opportunity to pursue the great work...

[modwiz]

You need a millamp meter. Ridiculously low levels of current in the system is the case. Also, fundamentally and importantly... in the case of higher current levels...the polarization and agreeance in plasma function cause grief and is the root source/cause of the creation of larger particles.

This is part of why alchemists need to reduce materials to true monatomic levels and then..... over a period of several months, manipulate the monatomic mix cyclically through a dimensionally gating system of condensation repetition within the one sealed vessel so the complex gasses and the elements involved, interact repeatedly, over and over and over..and as one molecule switches to the desired state..then the next and finally it is a cascade of dimensional shifting..and this becomes the root mix, all resonating and stable as a shifted and energized mix of 'interesting' atoms.

As well, when some of the stone is made, this can be used to make more, and make more much more rapidly. It takes months and months and possibly years for the apprentice to get to their first batch. Following up with more is many times done in a matter of weeks, using the original finished stone as a 'seed' stock, exactly as the mono-crystal extraction is done in the CZ method of kiln based crystal rod extraction - in many fundamental ways.

The physicist David Bohm illustrated this effect in his analysis of plasma systems and how they react to impurities.

When condensation and temperature shift changes are highest in the atmosphere, in the fall and spring mornings.....and on the becker-hagens grid lines, that is the point of the greatest inter-dimensional spiritual manifestation. As the link to the 'blue ghost tunnel' so eloquently shows.

This is why the morning dew is the real consideration for making the 'stone' of philosopher's fame..., why underground bases and old megalithic structures, etc, and 'reptilian' dimensional rituals are on grid lines and where grid lines meet.

This also explains about:

human 'vibration' and 'resonance' and how the consuming of large amounts of the 'stone' by the pharohs would allow them to, in their whole being and spirit, to actually shift dimensions. (the David Bohm bit about plasma's acting in stable and perfected agreeance, and forming exclusion bubbles around impurities)

Then other things like Buddhist monks resonating together in Washington DC, stating ahead of time their calculated change in the crime rate that would occur from their meditation and this being the found reality in the final calculations after the meditation took place...so massed resonant (thought) systems in effect here....

This then becomes the Nikolai Kosyrev bit on aluminum showing the underlying scalar wave function that is beyond time, and then the spooky action at a distance, and then the US Naval Academy of Research Showing that DNA is superconductive and reacts throughout the body as a whole single system, well outside of nerve energy travel speeds, and that gold and platinum metals will adhere to the DNA strands....and if they are superdeformed and charged atoms that are dimensionally situated across 2 dimensions or gating dimensions...those Platinum metals...bonding to the DNA.....well...............................

I mean, we could go on and on here.



Yes, essentially. I did start the two together.

Thankfully there is no enlightenment pill. Sort of. But, there is. And that is ....if someone who knows how to make the proper 'stone' gives it to someone else.

I really enjoyed reading your post and am in awe of your understanding of subtle science. I have been using vibrational preparations since 1988 (gem elixirs and flower essences) and they changed me into another being. I became a vegetarian (no critters) within a year and remain one to this day. I am vegan in the Summer and use small amounts of organic dairy in the cooler NE seasons.

[modwiz]

Bashi,
You are an enormous resource of useful and enlightening information also. Your well focused photos are excellent and prove the adage, a picture is worth..............
you know.

Modwiz

[Carmody]

Well, thanks for the compliments, folks and especially thank you Bashi, for that excellent post which shows clearly the whole thing. And that it can do some interesting things to one's 'dreams'.

My situation was that the whole sum affair is what blew the top of my head off..and that I had to go back and sift through the evidence trail to figure out exactly what it was, in the mix, that was the culprit. In effect, it was the sum total, but that some of the components could be useful to someone else. The thing that could be useful to someone else, is obviously..this technique for making very weak colloidals that are actually skipping into mono-atomic and 'charged'. Hence the thread.

[bashi]

Carmody and Bashi

I can't thank you two enough! I have researched this phenomenon 15 years ago for about 5 years. I tried all sorts of experiments, apparatus equipment etc with mixed results.I spent countless hours researching, asking questions, etc which was part of the journey to know self to begin with heheheh....

Anyway, what you two have shared is so valuable! It will literally save years of research and countless dead ends for anyone wanting to follow this path. Thank you

This has re-ignited a dream that I have given up on. I hope the coming days/weeks will allow me an opportunity to pursue the great work...

Thanks, this stuff works. If you change your livestyle and include becoming a veggie and start to practise real meditation, then the results are even better.
But please: No A. Deane stuff...;)

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[bashi]

Well, thanks for the compliments, folks and especially thank you Bashi, for that excellent post which shows clearly the whole thing. And that it can do some interesting things to one's 'dreams'.

My situation was that the whole sum affair is what blew the top of my head off..and that I had to go back and sift through the evidence trail to figure out exactly what it was, in the mix, that was the culprit. In effect, it was the sum total, but that some of the components could be useful to someone else. The thing that could be useful to someone else, is obviously..this technique for making very weak colloidals that are actually skipping into mono-atomic and 'charged'. Hence the thread.

Thank you for the Thank you. ;)
But i have to thank you also for the thread, otherwise i would have never built it...:clap2:

You see folks: Do your homework, it pays off !

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[Chuck]

If you change your livestyle and include becoming a veggie ... then the results are even better.


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My ex-wife called me that several times! I'm half way there.

[bashi]

Bashi,
You are an enormous resource of useful and enlightening information also. Your well focused photos are excellent and prove the adage, a picture is worth..............
you know.

Modwiz

Thanks,
the currents are very small, in the range of 20-40 µAmps.
You do not need a very good multimeter to measure these small currents. You can calculate them by measuring the voltage drop over one of the resistors. You know the resistance and measure the voltage, that gives you the current.
For example you measure 1.5 Volts at a 56K resistor, that is 1.5/56000 = 27 µA
Any cheap multimeter can measure milli volts.
From there you can go further:
By knowing that the current is 27 µA, you can now measure the voltage-drop between the coins. Then you can calculate the resistance of the solution and see it drop over the time.


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[lightblue]

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does anyone know about the monatomic copper? and how do you make that solution? i've heard it's very good as skincare... :flirt: l

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[The Truth Is In There]

a side note for those who use silver coins. actually that is not recommended because the purity of silver is tested not by measuring the silver content but by measuring how many impurities are in the silver, so there are differences depending on its intended use. the silver to be used for monoatomic silver is tested for 40 or more elements and is rated 99.99% while silver coins and other silver is tested for less elements. hence, certain impurities may be there but not even show because the test didn't include them. that's why the silver to be used for making monoatomic silver is usually more expensive, because it's purer, and it's also the reason why 99.999% is not necessarily better than 99.99% if the first was tested for only 25 elements and the second for 40 elements.

[1159]

I would also be very interested in your comments on these issues, Carmody. This is what I've done so far:


I started with a 4" diameter glass beaker of distilled water.
I purchased about 24" of 8 gauge sterling silver wire from a jewelry supply house to use as two separate 12" long electrodes.
I started with five 9 volt batteries hooked in series, i.e. + to -, - to +, + to -, etc.
I allowed the five 9 volt batteries to discharge.

This produced a cloudy (light gray) residue suspended in the water. I didn't drink it.

I began to purchase colloidal silver from the local health food store. It's very expensive, and there is no real justification for the cost - based on how simple it is to make. If one just knew the 'tricks' to making it.

My next experiment will be using a 9 volt (ac to dc) transformer. The type that comes with your average throw-away-type electronic consumer product.

What I don't know is:

How do you know if you have enough ppm in your colloidal solution?
How long do you let the process go before it's ready to drink?
How long will it store?


Sorry, to say, this is not good CS. Every item in the first list above is completely the wrong way to do it. TBH there is a lot of rubbish about colloidal silver on the net and aslo a lot of pseudo esoteric wooliness. I have made and used CS for over 10 years on a regular basis, so I think I'm fairly experienced to make a little comment here. To make good silver colloid, is pretty straight forward and I am going to cut all the waffle and lead you to this page here http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm Atlasnova also sell .9999 silver wire and I use it myself.

Please check that page out, don't be distracted by all the fancy talk about particle size etc etc. Just make the stuff properly and the chemestry takes care of itself. More complexity does not always make a better product. Also please see here http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-silver-medical.html

To put all this in context, colloidal silver is actually a naturally occuring process in many foods. But that's a whole different thread.

edit due to wrong link added

[Carmody]

That's all fine and dandy. I thank you for bringing the colloidal information here. :)

But this bit, this thread is about particle size...and everything discussed about it is vitally important. Again... for the purposes of this thread.

And please... do not distract from that. Thank you. :)

If one wants colloidal silver for their health, the general particle sizing -- is just fine.

If one wants to head toward mono-atomic sized particles (philosopher's stone sized particles), not micro and nano clumping (colloidal silver)....and one desires to get that something extra that the philosopher's wanted and received in their works...then this thread is about that specific aspect.

[Samurai]

amazing thread, thank you carmody and bashi
i make and take general colloidal, now i will be making me a new generator to go monatomic.
amazing!

[bashi]

....and one desires to get that something extra that the philosopher's wanted and received in their works...then this thread is about that specific aspect.


Here is a something extra for the sceptics:

It is whiter than white and lighter than light…



http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7403/ormescrop.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/ormescrop.jpg/)

[Carmody]

Someone asked me for this and this thread is more appropriate for the response, I think. But that's just me.

Chicken and fish, no red meats. limited chicken and fish.

Glass bottled water only, no plastic. green or brown bottles.

No alcohol.

No narcotics.

No addictions. No sugars, no 'habits'. CLEAN. (A Natural, ancient diet-what your body is designed for)

And then the rest. That's how I got there. (charles' diet is this bit below)

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Originally Posted by Bill Ryan View Post
I asked him a short while ago. It's pretty simple:

* Organic if possible
* He does eat meat
* No processed or irradiated fruit or vegetables
* No MSG (monosodium glutamate)
* No bottled water
* Fruit juice to drink
* Water boiled and filtered (from the tap) - when at home
* Black tea
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Combined with self hypnosis. Hypnosis centered around the idea of going back, back, back, back to all the years of my life back to my childhood, back to before the age of 5, then 4, then 3, then 2 then one, then a newborn..then birth, the womb and then...boom. Right through into 'between lives'. Right there. Like Newton does it, except self-induced.

That's when the whole thing breaks loose. (ie, in the 'before the womb' state) This was about a three month process. Slow and steady with great care and accuracy on my origins and understandings of them, as one needs to be clear. If not, the ghosts of one's past color the results, like unwanted shapers and filters. Where at least some of the satanic childish stuff comes from, the whole sex thing, etc. That's sometimes unclear people messing with their ego's animal functions, while channeling energies like that, and having their understandings (And resultant expression of energies) be screwy like that, due to not being 'clear'. The mind/ego creates phantasms, images, etc, as it's fears are Being excited, as you are digging into the reasons for it's polarizations and it's idiosyncrasies.

This at the same time I was doing kundalini exercises in mediation. up the spine, learn to control. Then the memory and all the blocks came off at the same time..and I felt like I was going completely mad for about 2 months or more. I mean in a very serious way as the door is fully open, everything comes in.

Then you are in the sleepless state, and in the chute- in the zone. Good luck keeping one's sanity. It's a tough ride.

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I combined that with the monatomic (charged/polarized) silver (outlined in this thread), which may not be necessary for some of you. I do not know, for in my case.... I cannot separate the item, it was part of the mix for me.



In order to properly protect the forum, I must say that these statements below are mine only and are for informational purposes only. They are not intended for anyone to play with, they do not constitute advice to be acted upon.

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Somebody asked me about the self hypnosis I did as I was trying to enter a state of recall. this is my reply.

All I did is immerse myself in the memories that surround the given sharp and changing events in my life. In that way, one can find the damaged or broken neurons/paths. to re-shape them, to bring them back to life.

In my mind, re-live the moments, flesh them out. Continually. (in meditation/recall) Follow any fragments, let them take me where they may. Be objective and feeling at the same time. Recall the visions and then objectify for analysis. Some combination of that can, when one keeps at it...in my experience, it does work.

This is similar to what newton seemingly does. He prepares the mind for a jump into unknowns by stabilizing the current state, to enlarge the group of thoughts and strengthen the position of the now, so the leap can be properly made, without stumbling.

He has a book on hypnotism alone, and no subject's recall works are in it. It's a guide for hypnotists to practice his method. I have it but I've barely glanced at it. it probably has more methods than my simple trick.

IMO, I needed to return and become those experiences again. I needed the framework of the experiences in order to push such out of me. I could not, in my mind and thinking.. just chase the experience alone. That is the broken neural pathways, so they aren't there. Just my opinion and experience.

Meaning.. I could not just walk out of my car (leaving it in the middle of the street with the door open, engine running) when I passed a pool/swimming complex and jump off the high diving board. I felt I needed to do all the ground work and preparation. It needs to be framed so it can execute itself to as perfect a point as is possible. To actually 'work', as it were.

I created the frameworks so the dots could emerge. Then they could be connected.

[lightblue]

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b, what's that whiter than white and lighter than light substance? what is it? :blink: what's it good for?

if it's good for something, can it be home made? :unsure: l


http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7403/ormescrop.jpg

[bashi]

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b, what that whiter than white and lighter than light substance? what is it? :blink: what's it good for?

if it's good for something, can it be home made? :unsure: l


It is ORMEs : Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements

In this case a mix of Gold + Rhodium + Iridium

This is the stuff the big boys play around with...

It can, but it is more a matter of knowledge than of equipment - alchemical knowledge...

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[Chuck]

. what is it?


hahahaha lightblue! I had to laugh. I remember listening to a lecture many years ago by David Hudson where he described "manna" literally means "what is it?"

;)

[HeatherJJAnderson]

How fascinating I do love exotic matter, I have a friend that worked at ARS Biotronics in Bills part of the world. Yes Monatomic Copper is good also for every part of your body, but do not ingest any if you suffer from Wilson’s disease.

[Trail]

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b, what that whiter than white and lighter than light substance? what is it? :blink: what's it good for?

if it's good for something, can it be home made? :unsure: l


It is ORMEs : Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements

In this case a mix of Gold + Rhodium + Iridium

This is the stuff the big boys play around with...

It can, but it is more a matter of knowledge than of equipment - alchemical knowledge...

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I feel the urge to re-post this small part by Ashayana Deane, in case unwitting people are lured by the fascinating properties of MonoAtomicGold / ORME's:

Ashayana Deane:

[ORME's] temporarily "fire" the dormant codes in the higher dimensional DNA strand Templates, releasing bursts of higher frequency into the DNA template, creating temporary "windows" to the higher dimensions and giving the physical body a temporary boost. But the firing of the higher strand codes, before the lower strand templates are activated enough to process those frequencies, creates "frequency overkill" in the lower strand template (LSD type drugs do this too). The higher frequencies begin to crush the natural crystalline arrangement of the scalar-wave grids in the lower strand templates, like a hammer on a quartz crystal cluster. The lower strand templates progressively erode, creating mutation in the physical DNA, and deterioration in related body systems.

Read the full warning by Ashayana Deane in my post on the previous page.

Also, please read this article called 'Monoatomic gold - THINK TWICE' before ordering ORME's: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml

I have been extremely fascinated by monoatomic gold for about 10 years and i couldn't understand why my higherself kept telling me NOT to take it.. This frustrated me to say the least and i have been on the virge of ignoring my higherself and ordering it anyway many times .. much later when the word had spread around and the negative experiences started comming out i was happy i never took it.. :( :(

From what i understand in laymens terms is that the monoatomic gold makes your dna a superconductor, thus enabling much higher frequencies to flow through.. so far sounds extremely good if your mind is on ascension.. however.. since this not done naturally.. the overload will burn out your dna and the repair will take many many lifetimes to repair.. the foundation needs to be there and the dna activation need to go in a certain order to build up the frequencies on top of eachother sortof like a musical scale..

THINK TWICE.

~Trail.

[bashi]

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b, what that whiter than white and lighter than light substance? what is it? :blink: what's it good for?

if it's good for something, can it be home made? :unsure: l


It is ORMEs : Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements

In this case a mix of Gold + Rhodium + Iridium

This is the stuff the big boys play around with...

It can, but it is more a matter of knowledge than of equipment - alchemical knowledge...

.

I feel the urge to re-post this small part by Ashayana Deane, in case unwitting people are lured by the fascinating properties of MonoAtomicGold / ORME's:

Ashayana Deane:

[ORME's] temporarily "fire" the dormant codes in the higher dimensional DNA strand Templates, releasing bursts of higher frequency into the DNA template, creating temporary "windows" to the higher dimensions and giving the physical body a temporary boost. But the firing of the higher strand codes, before the lower strand templates are activated enough to process those frequencies, creates "frequency overkill" in the lower strand template (LSD type drugs do this too). The higher frequencies begin to crush the natural crystalline arrangement of the scalar-wave grids in the lower strand templates, like a hammer on a quartz crystal cluster. The lower strand templates progressively erode, creating mutation in the physical DNA, and deterioration in related body systems.

Read the full warning by Ashayana Deane in my post on the previous page.

Also, please read this article called 'Monoatomic gold - THINK TWICE' before ordering ORME's: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml

I have been extremely fascinated by monoatomic gold for about 10 years and i couldn't understand why my higherself kept telling me NOT to take it.. This frustrated me to say the least and i have been on the virge of ignoring my higherself and ordering it anyway many times .. much later when the word had spread around and the negative experiences started comming out i was happy i never took it.. :( :(

From what i understand in laymens terms is that the monoatomic gold makes your dna a superconductor, thus enabling much higher frequencies to flow through.. so far sounds extremely good if your mind is on ascension.. however.. since this not done naturally.. the overload will burn out your dna and the repair will take many many lifetimes to repair.. the foundation needs to be there and the dna activation need to go in a certain order to build up the frequencies on top of eachother sortof like a musical scale..

THINK TWICE.

~Trail.

Thanks for your well-meaning advice.
I am not a fan of AD, for good reasons, but she is at least in this subject partially right.

If you take pure mono-Gold, then that’s like eating pure chilli. It will burn you, no question.
But what about a mix, like Curry?
You will have to build the intake gradually up; like going from one octave to the next.
The rule of: “The more , the better” will get you definitely into trouble. A matured handling is required, no question.

The picture shows ORMEs of the 3rd octave.

It is correct that only temporary windows are created, but this can also be very handy. You will have the opportunity to experience, for example ESP and at the same time have the ability to reduce your sensitivity, if the experience is shattering your mind. Of course this effect does not built up or reduce itself within a day, but at least you will not end up like Hans Burgner in "The Red Lion"...

There will be always a residue effect of using them, which is – in my opinion – beneficial: As you will have gone through more intense experiences before, that residue effect will be easy to handle.

The DNA picture is only partially right. It is more related to the already existing huge amount of ORMEs in the brain.

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[Gwen]

That's an interesting read, I've been taking C/silver for years and I have to say it does keep you well, but I didn't know about the dimensional energy part. I have vivid dreams but always have had, and odd experiences but again, always have had so I couldn't confirm or deny this. I don't make it and take it straight away though, I make a bottle every week, so maybe I'm taking a weaker dose each day till the next batch. Thanks for that, I'll try doing it that way instead.

[lightblue]

bashi:
It is correct that only temporary windows are created, but this can also be very handy. You will have the opportunity to experience, for example ESP and at the same time have the ability to reduce your sensitivity, if the experience is shattering your mind. Of course this effect does not built up or reduce itself within a day, but at least you will not end up like Hans Burgner in "The Red Lion"...

There will be always a residue effect of using them, which is – in my opinion – beneficial: As you will have gone through more intense experiences before, that residue effect will be easy to handle.

The DNA picture is only partially right. It is more related to the already existing huge amount of ORMEs in the brain.


what do you understand by ESP...rather, what kind of ESP does ormes induce?

hans burgner's powder was gold in appearance and alchemical mix of life, death and decay.. do you think it's the same thing - formulated to produce the same effect?

when you said "alrready existing huge amount of ormes in the brain" - do you mean as a result of an intake or is ormes combo naturally already exusting in our brains?


do you think charles's master and/or dad (st germain) are taking a booster combo of the 'red lion'...

maybe they are on ormes too... :unsure: l

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[bashi]

bashi:
It is correct that only temporary windows are created, but this can also be very handy. You will have the opportunity to experience, for example ESP and at the same time have the ability to reduce your sensitivity, if the experience is shattering your mind. Of course this effect does not built up or reduce itself within a day, but at least you will not end up like Hans Burgner in "The Red Lion"...

There will be always a residue effect of using them, which is – in my opinion – beneficial: As you will have gone through more intense experiences before, that residue effect will be easy to handle.

The DNA picture is only partially right. It is more related to the already existing huge amount of ORMEs in the brain.


what do you understand by ESP...rather, what kind of ESP does ormes induce?

hans burgner's powder was gold in appearance and alchemical mix of life, death and decay.. do you think it's the same thing - formulated to produce the same effect?

when you said "alrready existing huge amount of ormes in the brain" - do you mean as a result of an intake or is ormes combo naturally already exusting in our brains?


do you think charles's master and/or dad (st germain) are taking a booster combo of the 'red lion'...

maybe they are on ormes too... :unsure: l

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ESP=Extra Sensory Perception; it is individually different

what do you mean by: is the same thing?

ormes are naturally already in our brains. intake though food, well not through Hamburger..;)

ask them; or re-read the book; tip:study the life and "death" of Nicolas Flamel,
not through wikipedia :confused:,
but maybe you start here: http://www.flamelcollege.org/flamel.htm

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[lightblue]

bashi:
ESP=Extra Sensory Perception; it is individually different
there are so many kinds/levels of ESP..if, for instance, my ESP encompass one range, will the ESPs induced by ormes, be that very same range augmented or are they likely to branch off? in other words: i want to carry on keeping clear off the ESPs touching on the lower astrals..i want my ESPs to deepen and not broaden...but you can't answer that unless you've taken ormes yourself...



what do you mean by: is the same thing?
in your estimation: does ormes have the same effect as the 'red lion' ?


ormes are naturally already in our brains. intake though food, well not through Hamburger..
i go through heaps of fresh acacia flowers for lunch since i was little.. only then i never told anyone..


ask them; or re-read the book; tip:study the life and "death" of Nicolas Flamel,
not through wikipedia ,
but maybe you start here: http://www.flamelcollege.org/flamel.htm

i could re-read the book alright..though for me it's only happening from page 243..i don't feel i need to ask them (and why would anyone think they'd confirm it)..
i think they must be.. :yes4: l

p.s. .thanks for the link..

[bashi]

bashi:
ESP=Extra Sensory Perception; it is individually different
there are so many kinds/levels of ESP..if, for instance, my ESP encompass one range, will the ESPs induced by ormes, be that very same range augmented or are they likely to branch off? in other words: i want to carry on keeping clear off the ESPs touching on the lower astrals..i want my ESPs to deepen and not broaden...but you can't answer that unless you've taken ormes yourself...



what do you mean by: is the same thing?
in your estimation: does ormes have the same effect as the 'red lion' ?

[/SIZE]

The ESP enhancement differs individually. This is all i can say.

The Red Lion is the top in a pyramid of different ORMEs.

[lightblue]

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might get some... i know a supplier of subatomic/monatomic particles remedies etc... :yu: l

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[bashi]

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might get some... i know a supplier of subatomic/monatomic particles remedies etc... :yu: l

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well, personally i yet do not feel to be ready for it. it might be just too heavy.

are you a veggie? have you stopped smoking?

[Chuck]

bashi,
At the risk of turning this into a 100 page Q&A to you and Carmody ... :)

Were you taking ORMES while downloading the inspiration for your prophetic post "Full Disclosure!"?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11701-Full-Disclosure-!&highlight=general+P

Or is this the result of your 'conventional' research and reasoning process?

Are you taking ORMES now?

[bashi]

bashi,
At the risk of turning this into a 100 page Q&A to you and Carmody ... :)

Were you taking ORMES while downloading the inspiration for your prophetic post "Full Disclosure!"?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11701-Full-Disclosure-!&highlight=general+P

Or is this the result of your 'conventional' research and reasoning process?

Are you taking ORMES now?

No.................
No, well, i eat carrots ;)

[Chuck]

....
According to Hudson,the soils are full of these deactivated "philosopher's stones"..and they just need to be 'charged' or reactivated. And that they, as they are, are the actual source of all life on the planet, with regard to DNA, DNA activation, etc. A diet high in monatomics brings health and longevity, strong immune systems, extreme growth factors in plants (400%) and direct human consumption of such does great things.
....



Hello Carmody and bashi,

Thanks again for great information. I was at that lecture of Hudson’s btw, many years ago. Thanks for re-igniting a dream…

Other than the manufacturing of ormes as outlined here, I got to thinking of the naturally occurring ormes in vegetables and fruits and how they get absorbed from the soil.

Have you had any thoughts in this regard? That is, is there a certain manner in which to plant vegetables to enhance the plants ability to draw ormes from the environment more efficiently? Is there any supporting equipment/additives to the garden that will accentuate the ormes absorption into the vegetables or to get them reactivated? Is this what obelisks do?

I don't live too far from the eighth point grid on the Becker-Hagens Grid... maybe I should go and plant a quartz crystal there and another one in my garden?

Also, the manner in which we prepare the vegetables seems to be of great concern in preserving the high spin state of these magical elements. Does ANY kind of heating destroy the high spin state? In other words, should we be consuming raw fruits and vegetables more than cooked ones? Microwave heating would probably destroy these elements but perhaps electric heating to a lesser degree (although still susceptible to electromagnetic radiation) and natural gas heating the lease invasive?

It also makes me think that the genetically modified foods may have inhibitors to the ormes uptake. A good advice for everyone is to buy heirloom seeds whenever you get the chance!

Thank you for your consideration.

[Lancelot]

Thanks for sharing this fascinating post.
Ormus holds so many possibilities for mankind.

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/cone.htm

[Arrowwind]

I have done some looking into structured water as produced by Photonic Water. this link provides much of the information.
I think that Ormus is nothing more than structured gold....

Although the Photonic water people are not reporting it I know for a fact because I have talked with users who have amazing stories to tell, that many users of this water are having significant healing happening to their body and they (the Photonic water folks) are not reporting all of what they know. But they are providing amble evidence of its amazing properties in plant growth and other applications.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13158-Photonic-Water-to-Inhance-Plant-Growth-and-Human-Health&highlight=photonic+water

[Chuck]

I have done some looking into structured water as produced by Photonic Water. this link provides much of the information.
I think that Ormus is nothing more than structured gold....

Although the Photonic water people are not reporting it I know for a fact because I have talked with users who have amazing stories to tell, that many users of this water are having significant healing happening to their body and they (the Photonic water folks) are not reporting all of what they know. But they are providing amble evidence of its amazing properties in plant growth and other applications.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13158-Photonic-Water-to-Inhance-Plant-Growth-and-Human-Health&highlight=photonic+water

hello Arrowwind,

I'm not sure what you mean be structured gold. All metals are "structured". Ormes is nothing like it. It stands for, as stated above, orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements. They can be derived from palladium, platinum, gold, osmium, ruthenium, iridium and rhodium. (Silver derived ormes is new to me as described by Carmody and bashi and I'm researching it now, thanks to them) these metals are very heavy... meaning the nucleii have many protons. When a single atom gets stripped away from the metal the nucleus deforms, turns dumbbell shape and switches to a high spin state. This is when all the magic happens. It is everything but structured (other than it's resonant frequency).

What you describe as "structured water" seems to be related to what I know as "clustered water". That is the water molecule organizing themselves so that the hydrogen and oxygen bond together in a tetrahedral shape like it's cold crystal equivalent. I suspect that this is the form and shape of the water molecules within our DNA (within the helix) and every DNA on the planet including plants. I suppose there is some benefit to drinking and watering plants with this type of water as it is easier assimilated to hydrate the cells and remove toxins.

But make no mistake... it is VERY different than ormes.

[Chuck]

here is another good information summary and better explains the different elements

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus.htm

[bashi]

....
According to Hudson,the soils are full of these deactivated "philosopher's stones"..and they just need to be 'charged' or reactivated. And that they, as they are, are the actual source of all life on the planet, with regard to DNA, DNA activation, etc. A diet high in monatomics brings health and longevity, strong immune systems, extreme growth factors in plants (400%) and direct human consumption of such does great things.
....



Hello Carmody and bashi,

Thanks again for great information. I was at that lecture of Hudson’s btw, many years ago. Thanks for re-igniting a dream…

Other than the manufacturing of ormes as outlined here, I got to thinking of the naturally occurring ormes in vegetables and fruits and how they get absorbed from the soil.

Have you had any thoughts in this regard? That is, is there a certain manner in which to plant vegetables to enhance the plants ability to draw ormes from the environment more efficiently? Is there any supporting equipment/additives to the garden that will accentuate the ormes absorption into the vegetables or to get them reactivated? Is this what obelisks do?

I don't live too far from the eighth point grid on the Becker-Hagens Grid... maybe I should go and plant a quartz crystal there and another one in my garden?

Also, the manner in which we prepare the vegetables seems to be of great concern in preserving the high spin state of these magical elements. Does ANY kind of heating destroy the high spin state? In other words, should we be consuming raw fruits and vegetables more than cooked ones? Microwave heating would probably destroy these elements but perhaps electric heating to a lesser degree (although still susceptible to electromagnetic radiation) and natural gas heating the lease invasive?

It also makes me think that the genetically modified foods may have inhibitors to the ormes uptake. A good advice for everyone is to buy heirloom seeds whenever you get the chance!

Thank you for your consideration.

Hi Chuck,
there are certain vegetables which contain more ORMES than others.
First of all it depends on the soil in which they grow.
I had a list of them, which I lost when my hard drive got swept. I remember that one of the top ones was Aloe Vera. Also carrots contain much more than other vegetables.
I think the info is on the net, you just have to dig it out.
Best is to eat them raw.
Ordinary heating of ORMEs in vegetables should not have any effect on the spin state.
But, as they are susceptible to magnetic fields, any cooking on electrical plates etc will drive them away.
If you want to cook and keep as much as possible, then use a propane/butane gas cooker. A copper-pot is better than stainless steel one.
That should do it. Open fire is not for everybody…:flame:

[Chuck]

Thanks bashi,

I've been aware of that list of concentrations of ormes in various vegetables and other products from Hudson as well. I suspect however that the sampling population was very limited in number, variety as well as in geographical and environmental growing conditions. I would be interested to hear of any experimentation done on the gardening techniques.

The more I think of it, the more I suspect that the best results would come from the gardener treating the garden like the alchemist treating the refined metal. That is with care, attention, patience, love, commitment etc. The more love put into the growing of vegetables, no matter how impoverished in technical knowledge, the more the natural environment will rush to supply the plants and vegetables with all the magical qualities it can muster. I guess that goes true for any type of relationship...

[Carmody]

....
According to Hudson,the soils are full of these deactivated "philosopher's stones"..and they just need to be 'charged' or reactivated. And that they, as they are, are the actual source of all life on the planet, with regard to DNA, DNA activation, etc. A diet high in monatomics brings health and longevity, strong immune systems, extreme growth factors in plants (400%) and direct human consumption of such does great things.
....



Hello Carmody and bashi,

Thanks again for great information. I was at that lecture of Hudson’s btw, many years ago. Thanks for re-igniting a dream…

Other than the manufacturing of ormes as outlined here, I got to thinking of the naturally occurring ormes in vegetables and fruits and how they get absorbed from the soil.

Have you had any thoughts in this regard? That is, is there a certain manner in which to plant vegetables to enhance the plants ability to draw ormes from the environment more efficiently? Is there any supporting equipment/additives to the garden that will accentuate the ormes absorption into the vegetables or to get them reactivated? Is this what obelisks do?

I don't live too far from the eighth point grid on the Becker-Hagens Grid... maybe I should go and plant a quartz crystal there and another one in my garden?

Also, the manner in which we prepare the vegetables seems to be of great concern in preserving the high spin state of these magical elements. Does ANY kind of heating destroy the high spin state? In other words, should we be consuming raw fruits and vegetables more than cooked ones? Microwave heating would probably destroy these elements but perhaps electric heating to a lesser degree (although still susceptible to electromagnetic radiation) and natural gas heating the lease invasive?

It also makes me think that the genetically modified foods may have inhibitors to the ormes uptake. A good advice for everyone is to buy heirloom seeds whenever you get the chance!

Thank you for your consideration.

One way to do it...is to use a "bain marie" for vegetable steaming. It was developed by "Maria, the Jewess", one of the great alchemists. This design of hers was so that monatomics would not be damaged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain-marie

[Heyoka_11]

As this is my first official thread, I thought a rather quiet, semi-dormant thread would be a safe place to start; that and the subject matter of course!

I first learned of monatomics in Nexus magazine, where a local (Australian East coast) manufacturer advertises regularly. The enhanced growth of plant was impressive, and so I decided to investigate further, ending up, as I'm sure most would, at the Sublte Energies site. There is not a lot which "blows me away" anymore, but what I found on this site came very close. For the benefit of anyone not familiar with ORMES / ORMUS, when ingested, they (are claimed by some to) enhace the communication between the physical and etheric bodies. When the physical body is in a diseased state, this allows easier access to the "blueprint"; that being the etheric body. This equates to a more rapid and complete healing, as the physical body can more easily "get the information" it requires to return itself to a healthy state. Energy medicine appears to sing a similiar song, as I have read that when ill or diseased, it may simply be information which is needed to heal. I ordered a few bottles of the local brew, as nothing ventured.......

I can certainly attest to the ringing in the ears on the morning after the first ingestion. This subsided by midday, and was not to return. I continued with the recommended dosage for some months, but as I was in a healthy state to begin with, can claim no miracle cure. My usage was purely preventative, not curative. I ceased consumption when my work required frequent trips via air, and not wanting to expose the ORMES to ionising radiation (baggage scanning), I left it at home, and simply fell out of the habit.

A word of caution. I have read of an individual, who, after foolishly overdosing on home made ORMES, spent about two years off work, while the deafening roars in his ears slowly subsided. If you ever ingest ORMES, please use only as recommended by the manufacturer.

Here's a link to the Subtle Emergies articles page:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/articles.htm#THEORY

and another containing Kirlian photography of a double helix emanating from a pyramids cap:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pyramids.htm

If you have the inclination and time, a thorough search of this site should prove most enlightening, as the implications are staggering.

[Heyoka_11]

I should have pointed out in my last post, that the ORMES which I consumed were obtained from sea water. This then is a blend of all known monatomic elements.

This should not be confused with either colloidal silver, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, or with monatomic silver alone, as suggested in the threads title.

[Eram]

See the colloidal silver thread I started in the medicine section. it illustrates how real colloidal silver is made. Real to me, at least.
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I found it :nerd:

:bump:

[Mad Hatter]

dot->dot->scalar....dot->spin...dot...dot...dot...dot->orme......dot->dot->silver......dot.............

-> I can see a circuit comprising an amperage flow feedback loop adjusting voltage input on the horizon....:p

Question: Sunlight no good...what about a quick burst of red light? (just for checking the meter)

[ThePythonicCow]

-> I can see a circuit comprising an amperage flow feedback loop adjusting voltage input on the horizon....:p

That's what I use (or so it claims): the Silvonic Automatic CS Generator (http://silvonic.com/).

I also got my MegaHome water distiller (http://silvonic.com/counter-top-water-distiller.aspx) from them.

My house water, which has already gone through a large activated carbon filter to remove chlorine compounds, and a reverse osmosis unit with more carbon blocks to remove most other stuff, is down to 6 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (tds). After distilling, it is 0 ppm tds.

After making a batch of silver water, it is back up to about 5 ppm.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

-> I can see a circuit comprising an amperage flow feedback loop adjusting voltage input on the horizon....:p

That's what I use (or so it claims): the Silvonic Automatic CS Generator (http://silvonic.com/).

I also got my MegaHome water distiller (http://silvonic.com/counter-top-water-distiller.aspx) from them.

My house water, which has already gone through a large activated carbon filter to remove chlorine compounds, and a reverse osmosis unit with more carbon blocks to remove most other stuff, is down to 6 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (tds). After distilling, it is 0 ppm tds.

After making a batch of silver water, it is back up to about 5 ppm.


How much did that set up cost you if i may ask?

Thank you

Ed

[ThePythonicCow]

How much did that set up cost you if i may ask?
The whole house carbon filter for chlorine plus the under-the-sink reverse osmosis probably cost me about $2000. I forget the details - installed it when I setup my current "mobile home" a few years back.

The prices of the Silvonic units, including the distiller, are available on their website. See the above links.

I also use the distiller for my drinking water, after adding back in Willard water (http://yhst-34846767927333.stores.yahoo.net/one-gallon-clear-concentrate.html) (plenty of sulfates), Himalayan pink salt, potassium bicarbonate (http://nuts.com/cookingbaking/leavenerthickener/potassium-bicarbonate.html) (1 Tbsp/gal), and fulvic ionic minerals (http://amzn.com/B005474RBM), sufficient to bring it back up to a few hundred ppm tds.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

How much did that set up cost you if i may ask?
The whole house carbon filter for chlorine plus the under-the-sink reverse osmosis probably cost me about $2000. I forget the details - installed it when I setup my current "mobile home" a few years back.

The prices of the Silvonic units, including the distiller, are available on their website. See the above links.

I also use the distiller for my drinking water, after adding back in Willard water (http://yhst-34846767927333.stores.yahoo.net/one-gallon-clear-concentrate.html) (plenty of sulfates), Himalayan pink salt, potassium bicarbonate (http://nuts.com/cookingbaking/leavenerthickener/potassium-bicarbonate.html) (1 Tbsp/gal), and fulvic ionic minerals (http://amzn.com/B005474RBM), sufficient to bring it back up to a few hundred ppm tds.



Thanks i have checked them out, all and all it might as well be made out of unobtanium for the regular guy, meaning at least 2500 bucks for your set up incluiding set up and random periferals and shipping, i think i will take my chances with buying colloidal silver for the time being, more realistic for me and most other people i think.

Thank you for the information though.

regards

Ed

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks i have checked them out, all and all it might as well be made out of unobtanium for the regular guy, meaning at least 2500 bucks for your set up
The whole house carbon filter and reverse osmosis are not required just to make silver water. The distiller and silvonics generator are sufficient.

(But getting the crap out of municipal water is also valuable, if one can swing it.)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Thanks i have checked them out, all and all it might as well be made out of unobtanium for the regular guy, meaning at least 2500 bucks for your set up
The whole house carbon filter and reverse osmosis are not required just to make silver water. The distiller and silvonics generator are sufficient.

(But getting the crap out of municipal water is also valuable, if one can swing it.)

Well, thats more acceptable and reasonable, that would only set me back about 400 alltogether and thats something to definetly consider.

Muchas gracias for the slick feedback Paul.

[genevieve]

665 plumber of the beast--

"unobtanium" Love it!!!


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve


P.S. Thank you, Carmody and all, for a VERY interesting read. Wow.

[jerry]

did you happen to save the lectures as I was interested in checking the link out in the mp3 form, the linked page came up as an error , page not found ...appreciate any help in finding or obtaining the info

[ThePythonicCow]

did you happen to save the lectures as I was interested in checking the link out in the mp3 form, the linked page came up as an error , page not found ...appreciate any help in finding or obtaining the info

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[noprophet]

Probably the David Hudson Lectures; seems all the links on the first couple pages are dead now.

[Atomico]

So far what I see are nanoparticle silver process's described.
Those processes do not make monatomic silver.

David Hudson was a pioneer in the marketing Ormus, aka monatomic gold.

Monatomic gold or silver have a few characteristics that make it different from normal colloidal silver or gold.

1. The Protons and Electrons spin in the opposite direction
2. The White powdered gold or silver respond to magnets.

There exists a new form of Monatomic Gold / Silver; it is being promoted as "Atomic Particle" Colloidal Silver and Gold. The people at gold2live have a remarkable proof showing how they were able to convert Clear NONVisible Colloidal Gold back into regular metallic gold.

How did they do this? The let the colloidal gold solution run with a magnetic stirrer for about a week; then the invisible gold particles attached themselves to the magnetic stirrer pill.

That experiment proves that monatomic particles (http://www.gold2live.com/Monatomic-Atoms.html)can be created.

[Carmody]

The thread's intent, and instructions, were about making low levels of colloidal silver mixed with monatomic silver.

It comes down to the chemist's description for water, when they want to go back to clear basics: 'water is ash'. Water is an oxide. It is a true monoatomic level oxide.

The fluid, called water, has nearly free unassociated molecules of h20, ones that are known to be able to combine into multiple loosely associated forms. IIRC, at least four are known. (water has four forms of structure)

This unassociated or monatomic molecular form..when pressed to interact or react, with solidus form silver, can cause the silver lattice to break down, to have some silver atoms 'peel away' from the bulk lattice silver mass.

The lower the level of electricity, or DC potential (in value), the more true monatomic levels of silver and a water molecule associated with said individual silver molecule...the more will occur.

The higher the level of voltage differential in the water vs the silver solid, the larger the break away chunks of silver, and the more it will be simple colloidal silver.

This was and is about getting a chance to 'play' with low dosage mostly colloidal silver and some monatomic silver mixed in. It is about a gentle, safer introduction to monatomics, in a way that is easy to achieve.

[Valerie Villars]

I have just read through this post. After having gone through this process accidently, and now understanding how all of it fits together in a very intuitive way, I would have to say to please use caution. It is indeed like tripping on LSD and you do access other dimensions and the veil parts and all of those things. However, my life blew up and if not for divine providence, I would be living under a bridge. This process is nothing to play around with.