Trey Gowdy Demands Answers [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

View Full Version : Trey Gowdy Demands Answers

Hazel

11th May 2014, 09:11

To my understanding this is impressive... if you havn't already seen it... see what you think!

http://mash.network.coull.com/activatevideo?video_provider_id=2&pid=8165&website_id=23863&width=549&height=339&embed_type=IFRAME&video_provider_url=http://www.youtube.com/embed/A1jeJmeeMjs?version%3D3%26rel%3D1%26fs%3D1%26shows earch%3D0%26showinfo%3D1%26iv_load_policy%3D1%26wm ode%3Dtransparent&mobile=true&referrer=http://allenwestrepublic.com/2013/11/10/allen-west-here-is-truly-one-of-the-exceptional-good-guys-on-capitol-h

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1jeJmeeMjs

Lifebringer

11th May 2014, 10:22

:jaw:See the guy standing behind him on his right side/right hand? He voted to "not provide security funds to bengazi, as a way of cutting federal spending." Had a press conference on it after the vote on spending. The one w/chubby cheeks and curly hair. I remember because it was after the 2010 election and in September of 2011 was the attack. The vote was in March or May spring, but I remember because, I watch the spending hearings and votes as a therapy for them stealing my vote in 2000.:yell::nod:

I know C-span has the archival footage on the vote.
So answer this. "why is this smurky guy, who voted against funding more security by cutting 300 million for the fiscal year, standing there like egg is on the left's face?
"Dems put in the request for the security funding and it was flat out rejected as massive waste, and what has Bengazi got to do with America's interest." Boy, oh boy. This is so amazingly blatant for people who don't pay attention, to go along with what this group of blowhards and liars say.:confused: Are they really that easily duped. WE never trusted anyone coming from our neighborhood in politics, until they were thoroughly checked out as truth tellers or family men. Somebody's dropping the ball on the voter side of the right. WE are in this together, so why do we kick out our foul player players, and the right gets a pass after sinking the world. Sheesh. Can you at least help to clean it up and throw the kochbums out?:frusty::nod:

Strange people/like demons, like/enjoy watching the crap be thrown, knowing they provided the crap, and point at the other side. They do it so well, they don't even notice themselves doing it. They do as KOCH tells them to, so they can distract and Bengazi funding was their vote, but they denied security funding as one of their first Anti-government Libertarian TP acts, and voted party line of NO. I really don't think the guy behind him even read about the security shortage, after the French and Europeans left. He just voted NO, without any consequencial reasoning to go with the party of NO's agenda. In that wreckless vote, 4 people died. I wish the press would report on the actual truth, because the Republicans had the House, and the vote went ahead, and the all voted NO.

So hypocritical to point at the other side, when the HOUSE calls the shots on what bills are brought to table for vote.

Just like the other guy, who voted against what he first voted for, in the health care bill. It wasn't until they were assured the 165 republican corporate insurance amendments, that the healthcare bill was even bought to the table. Nancy Pelosi and the need to get something done, should have read all those amendments, because Republicans made sure there was no bargaining for drugs or health insurance cap on coverage per decade with reviews in light of epidemic like flu so a vaccine would be fresh and not need mercury to store it.

Efficiency, is not the republican brand. They like to fight all the time, more than get something done "for" flesh and blood people, living off the dregs of "their" recession(s) did I mention they caused all 3 in the last 100 years?

Hypocrits.

ghostrider

11th May 2014, 16:13

it all depends on who's butt is out in the wind , if it were Hillary in Benghazi , plenty of guns would have been there, if John Kerry were there , or any other white house person , but secret off the books Cia gun runners , your on your own ... they left them there to die ...period , cover up complete ... the most powerful nation on earth , with the most tech toys , the biggest spy net , global reach , drones , and you tell me they could not have saved those who died ??? they allowed it to happen ...the blood is on their hands ... we should not even be in the middle east or Africa or Korea , we should only protect home ... we put troops everywhere except on our own borders ...

Koyaanisqatsi

11th May 2014, 21:36

Millions died in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lies, lies, lies. With that fact in our scope of relativity, how big of a deal is this really?? How do we prioritize this? These psychos are melting down nuclear reactors and poisoning our food and air, lying to the world every day to start WWIII............ forget Benghazi. When a patient comes into the ER, we'll deal with internal bleeding and shock before we clean out the infected hang nail on their toe. Thats a little opinion from Koy, do with it what you will. I appreciate all of you

T Smith

12th May 2014, 01:56

Nine

14th May 2014, 03:51

If I might....

Some one is lying about Benghazi....as it were...

We have the blogosphere saying it was all from the Obama White house and folks over at Veterens today with a far different perspective....as it were....

Don't shoot me for posting this rather shoot VT and Dean and Duff....on a personal note....I am with Dean and Duff....However one could be wrong....

"THE REPUBLICAN PLOY

Ambassador Stevens

The Benghazi murders were to be Netanyahu’s gift to his friend Romney, a pre-election humiliation of a seated president, an intellect even inferior to Netanyahu’s own, a man without convictions, without beliefs, without honor.

Israel would have another perfect American president, another “Bush.”

The Republicans doubled down on their Benghazi bet…and lost again. The October surprise that was planned to shave a few points off the battleground state votes did not work.

When people are in power and do not learn from their mistakes, they are very dangerous, because guess who pays for them?

Veterans Today tied Republican ‘ Tea Party affiliates’ into the network that produced and aired the Rev. Terry Jones’ hugely expensive webcast.

We also were early in reporting that it was a fully professional military attack, with one Gulf State Special Ops team having come into Benghazi just a few days before. Benghazi was a slaughter, 120 men and heavy weapons, an attack long in planning, there would be no room for mistakes."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/25/benghazi-turns-into-republican-folly/

Benghazi and the Bundy ranch deal are psyops.

I am not in the mood to discuss this further....

It is what it is....traitors all.....

Nine

risveglio

14th May 2014, 23:07

Shocker! VT is blaming the Jews.

Rocky_Shorz

16th May 2014, 00:56

OK Trey you pencil necked Geek, let's get down to truths...

On July 1, 2012, a 14-minute-trailer of the film was uploaded to YouTube by "sambacile", thought to be one of Nakoula's aliases. Weeks later, right-wing Washington DC-based Coptic activist Morris Sadek sent the link to Gamel Girgis, an Egyptian reporter who writes about emigrant Copts for al-Youm al-Sabaa, a newspaper in Cairo.

Interest in the film then spread throughout the Egyptian media, with al-Nas channel presenter Khaled Abdullah, an ultraconservative Salafi, showing the clip dubbed into Arabic on September 8. Days later, violent protests broke out in two Muslim nations, as a firestorm was unleashed against US diplomatic posts.

Here are some of the most significant developments since the demonstrations began on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks: ... link (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/09/201291720158465768.html)

who the Hell handed the head of an extremist group the tape to set up the attacks on US embassies for the anniversary of 9/11

so let's look a little closer...

the group that attacked were from Egypt, for local intelligence, a CIA base does have that capability...

Muslims attack embassies they can reach...

now that we watched Flight 370 turned into a remote drone, we find out how all those planes were flown perfectly into building stress points by pilots that had never driven one before...

so yes, the flare up was from the film, the criminal is the one who handed the gasoline to an online Islamic Flamer, who lit everyone up to start the protests...

who owns and controls the media to plan distribution and release so perfectly, almost like it was scripted for a movie...

find that, and you might start to know who the enemy really is...

when you learn the truth, you will never share it...

so let's twist it into semantics, and pick on a pre intelligence report

come on, Republicans are just mad Obama cared more for Muslims hurt by a film, than an embassy that was buying back guns to ship to Syria off the grid, while water boarding terrorist to Baptize them into the Tea Party... There was no military, they were agents, on risk pay...

looks over at Saudi Intelligence who works closely with Mossad...

the plan worked, Muslim Brotherhood was given control, they tried to make SaudiII was tossed out by modern women in Egypt, sparked another protest getting them marching, they attacked Christians, and 1212 were sentenced to death, a wing of Alqueda erased in a moment...

and you are still filling empty airwaves with a Benghazi witch hunt that means nothing to anyone...

Schwarzenegger was right, California Reps are just a bunch of "girly men" used as puppets of the rich...

risveglio

16th May 2014, 02:50

Removed. Was drowning in too much bull****.

Rocky_Shorz

16th May 2014, 04:35

: "why is this smurky guy, who voted against funding more security by cutting 300 million for the fiscal year, standing there like egg is on the left's face?
"Dems put in the request for the security funding and it was flat out rejected as massive waste, and what has Bengazi got to do with America's interest."

Hypocrits.

What happened in Bengazi has nothing to do with security funding. Even if the budget were quadrupled, voted for, and a security detail twice the present capacity were provided, those people would have died. I can't defend the politicians or the politics you are criticizing, nor do I want to, but in reality what we are talking about has nothing to do with what the Dems attempted and the other side rejected as waste. Chris Stevens and the others who lost their lives on 9/11 didn't die because of any bureaucratic or political snafu. They died because they were murdered. This is a deliberate crime.

actually, they had a small army of locals guarding the embassy, until word came down of America's insult to Muhammad and the crowd gathering to attack. They walked and everyone knew they were unguarded for the attack...

CIA was notified, they had an army of 150 agents set for combat only 1.5 miles away... they didn't respond for 4 of their own agents...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ScreenHunter_688-Sep.-22-14.01.jpg
"HOW DID THIS PHOTO TAKEN BY THE KILLERS GET DIRECTLY TO THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN? (Source: Romney Fundraising Email)"

Romney knew of the attack before Obama and the white house because it was the CIA...

this was meant as an embarrassment to Obama to help Mitt in, but those involved were exposed,

and suddenly the tea party was sent off spinning over non-sense to get them out of the way... :pound:

Intelligence officers and commanders launched, Bush's soldiers were cut out like a cancer...

so please, o 1% puppet stooges, tell us the truth of who caused this tragedy...

Rocky_Shorz

18th May 2014, 18:14

here it is...

Investigative Findings: Benghazi video linked to the CIA?

Executive Summary
Based on my extensive 18-month investigation, it is my professional conclusion that the Internet video known as Innocence of Muslims, the video allegedly responsible for Middle East violence and more importantly, the September 11, 2012 attack in Benghazi that resulted in the death of four Americans can be directly tied to a covert intelligence operation and operational assets of the U.S. Department of Justice.

Additionally, the individuals and entities responsible for the Internet promotion of the video of that name can be traced not just to an intelligence operation contemporaneous to the attacks, but to previous events of historical significance and current relevance.

Investigation found that the video cited as the cause for the attack in Benghazi and riots in the Middle East underwent at least four name changes, includingDesert Warrior, The innocence of bn Laden, The Real Life of Muhammad, and finally, Innocence of Muslims. Investigation also found evidence that the primary individual behind the film worked as an operational asst for the FBI in exchange for leniency due to his criminal past. Indications of a possible association by one or more of the individuals responsible for the film to U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA, are also suggested.

This investigator also found evidence that suggests that the Internet promotion of the video is linked to at least one entity with ties to government subcontractors. That is, an analysis of electronic footprints of the video trailer under the title Innocence of Muslims, which existed in virtual obscurity for a significant period from its production until September 11, 2012, has been traced to a now defunct Internet YouTube news channel that appears connected to the company formerly known as Stanley, Inc., a subcontractor to various agencies of the U.S. Federal Government that provided products and services to the U.S. military, the U.S. State Department and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, among others. Stanley, Inc. was acquired by the CGI Group in 2010.

It is relevant to note that Stanley, Inc., based in Arlington, Virginia, was awarded a $164 million contract to print new U.S. passports in 2006. It is even more important to point out that two employees of Stanley, Inc., along with a third individual employed by another defense contractor identified as The Analysis Corporation, were identified as the perpetrators who breached the records of the U.S. passport office on three occasions in 2008 and “improperly accessed” the passport records of Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain. The breaches occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14, 2008.

Investigation verified that the CEO of the Analysis Corporation at the time of the passport office break-in was John O. Brennan, who served as a close advisor to Obama in 2008 on matters of intelligence and foreign policy. Brennan also contributed to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign and had a 25-year career in the CIA. John O. Brennan is now the head of the CIA under Obama.

It is here that we must recall that at the time of the passport office break-in, Barack Hussein Obama was on the campaign trail as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. The news of the breach was made public within a week of the last intrusion, and a week later, on March 21, 2008, Obama was asked for his reaction by ABC News Jake Tapper while campaigning. Obviously, Obama now officially knows that the public has been informed about the level of the breach, and that Obama’s personal and confidential biographical information, in addition to his international travels was apparently “accessed.”

It is important to note that that the files accessed included Obama’s personal passport and not limited to his diplomatic passport.

On April 8, 2008, Obama continued to comment on the fact that the confidentiality of his passport records were apparently compromised. It was on this occasion when Obama admitted, for the first time in any public venue as a presidential candidate, that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981. It is reasonable to wonder whether Obama would have disclosed his Pakistan trip at this time had it not been for the uncertainty that the information was already “in play.”

Even ABC News appeared surprised at this sudden and unexpected revelation, considering all of the talk about Pakistan and U.S. foreign policy during the previous several months. Research shows that Obama did not disclose this trip at any time during any policy discussions or debates prior to the passport office breach.

It is also important to point out that during the investigation of the breach of the passport office records, the Washington Times reported that “officials do not know whether information was improperly copied, altered or removed from the database during the intrusions” [Emphasis added]. As time progressed, however, so did the leaks. It was reported that at least one employee within the U.S. State Department shared passport information with a man identified as Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr.

My investigation suggests that Harris was the intended recipient of stolen credit card information from the State Department employee, but received more than what he bargained for. When he realized the scope of the crime and the explosive nature of the information he possessed, he turned to investigators for protection. He also began to talk with investigators and ultimately, made a deal with federal prosecutors.

Before he could make good on his deal, Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. was found shot to death in his car on April 17, 2008, just over a month after the last breach. He was found in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in the northeast section of Washington. He had been shot in the head.

The murder of Harris remains unsolved, and the official narrative of that murder is that Harris was either a victim of random violence, or his murder was a result of a “street deal gone bad.”

Clearly, investigation into the video and those individuals and entities behind the video known as Innocence of Muslims has found tentacles that reach far beyond the Benghazi attacks. There seems to be a connection, borne out of electronic footprints, to our own intelligence agencies in the creation and promotion of this video as outlined above.
Introduction

Following the announcement to establish a Congressional Select Committee on Benghazi and in response to recently released documents to Judicial Watch, numerous government officials and media pundits have “doubled down” on the narrative that an anti-Muslim movie ultimately titled Innocence of Muslims was the proximate cause for the attacks in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, that killed four Americans, including a U.S. Ambassador. To stipulate that the video played a primary role in the attack and murder in Benghazi, therefore, is to require it to be properly characterized as critical evidence in a criminal act of international terror. Accordingly, the video, and anyone involved in its funding, production and dissemination must be subjected to extensive investigation as it must be classified as evidence in a multiple homicide stemming from an attack on U.S. property located on foreign soil. To date, no meaningful investigation has been conducted.

Since the Benghazi attacks, officials at the highest levels of our government, supported and even in some instances, facilitated by many in the media and political pundits, have identified the film as the primary and sole motive behind the attack and the murders. As referenced above, evidence of such facilitation was further confirmed in a series of 41 documents secured by Judicial Watch pertaining to Benghazi on April 18, 2014.

Among those documents include a recently declassified e-mail originating from then-White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials “attempting to orchestrate a campaign to ‘reinforce’ President Obama and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being ‘rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.”[1][emphasis by this author]

It is relevant to point out that Ben Rhodes, now Obama’s deputy national security advisor, is the brother of CBS News president David Rhodes. As the e-mail ‘thread’ details, Ben Rhodes was instrumental in changing the talking points used by administration spokesmen immediately following the attack in Benghazi. It would appear that a prima facie case now exists that places the origins of emphasis and blame on an Internet video originated at the White House level, pursuant to the instructions or with the imprimatur of Obama or one of his stand-ins. The message was merely conveyed by Rhodes, who would likely lack operational authority to make such a decision, according to multiple sources interviewed for this investigation.

In criminal cases and in modern popular culture that includes television, movies and detective novels, motive is one of three aspects of a broader summation of a crime that is used to establish, in part, the determination of guilt of a suspect or suspects. We often hear of “motive, means and opportunity” as a “three-legged stool” on which the guilt or innocence of suspects might rest. With respect to Benghazi, the motive for the attacks has been persistently identified as the creation and distribution of the film Innocence of Muslims.

For the specific benefit of anyone who maintains the belief that the film was the motive behind the attack and murders, the following represents the findings from my research and investigation. For the benefit of anyone who believes otherwise, the following should serve as confirmation that the film was a convenient, albeit planned cover story that had its origins deep within the mechanics of covert intelligence operations.
Summary of Findings
Overview

Based on extensive investigation and research in my capacity as an investigator and investigative journalist, it is my professional opinion that blaming the Internet video for the attack at Benghazi is plagued by at least three major irreconcilable inconsistencies that appear to lack any credible explanations in the context of motive:

The suppositious relationship between the alleged creator of the video, including others reportedly involved in its funding, creation, distribution and promotion, to U.S. federal intelligence agencies and related government subcontractors. The intelligence agencies include the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI);
The extemporaneous timing and method of the film’s distribution;
The post-event use of the film by government officials and their spokespersons as a ready-made, readily accessible asset of otherwise limited prominence to divert attention away from the actual nature of the attack in its immediate aftermath.

Several investigations have already been performed by various oversight committees, including the often cited Accountability Review Board (ARB), yet none of the issues listed above have been addressed or investigated in any meaningful depth or fashion.
Supplemental note regarding video-spurred violence: Deceptive characterization of attack site

It is important to note that while the primary issue of focus has been that of inadequate security at diplomatic facilities (i.e. embassies and consulates) particularly in the Middle East, the attack occurred at an unmarked, nondescript location that effectively served as a CIA operations center and logistics facility for the covert transfer of arms and personnel throughout North Africa.

There were no American flags flying outside of the compound, and nothing iconic was overtly displayed that would readily identify this location as official U.S. property conducting normal embassy or consulate business. Therefore, to suggest that this site would be a logical target for a demonstration by Muslims upset over an insulting video is disingenuous at best, and represents an intentional deception that could only be purveyed by individuals who fully understood the precise reason for the existence of this compound.

The initial descriptions of the attack occurring at an embassy, then a consulate, and finally a “mission” were deliberately misleading. The compound was none of those, and this fact was known from the beginning. The false descriptions were used to (1) hide the true nature and use of the CIA compound in Benghazi, and (2) to reinforce the government’s position that the video caused sufficient and spontaneous violence beyond what could be reasonably anticipated or controlled.

While the issue of security failures and lapses might indeed have merit in the broader context of U.S. diplomatic facilities in the Middle East, to apply those talking points to this compound is an intentional redirection and sleight-of-hand deception designed to focus attention away from the real issues.
The Filmmaker

Addressing the first of the three major irreconcilable inconsistencies listed above, investigation found strong evidence of a direct and lengthy working relationship between the creator of the video, the FBI and possibly the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies. The man who federal authorities claim created the video was identified as California resident Mark Basseley Youssef, 57, a/k/a Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Sam Bacile and a dozen other aliases.[2] Youssef was born in Egypt and emigrated to the United States, where he ultimately settled in Cerritos, Los Angeles County, California. He was the owner/operator of at least two gas stations until running into severe financial problems in the mid 1990’s that ultimately led him to file for bankruptcy in 2000.

In 1997, meanwhile, Youseff was arrested by the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department after he was found to be in possession of ephedrine, hydroiodic acid (a DEA List I Chemical linked to the production of Meth), and $45,000 in cash following a routine traffic stop. He was charged with intent to manufacture methamphetamine. He pleaded guilty in 1997 and was sentenced to one year in the Los Angeles County Jail and three years probation. According to court records, he violated probation in 2002 and was re-sentenced to an additional 12 months in county jail.

In 2010, Youseff again found himself in legal trouble, pleading no contest to federal charges of bank fraud in Southern California. He opened numerous bank accounts under fictitious names and stolen Social Security numbers, using the different identities to “kite checks.” It is at this point that Youseff worked with the FBI and testified against the alleged ring leader of a much larger fraud operation in exchange for a lighter sentence of 1 year and 9 months in a federal prison, followed by five years of probation. He was ordered to pay $794,701 in restitution and fines, and was released from supervised custody in June of 2011 under conditions that included that he not use any aliases or false identities, and was prohibited from using the Internet without prior permission of his probation officer.

Immediately after the September 11, 2012 attack in Benghazi, Youseff reportedly called the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal, stating that his name was Sam Bacile and that he had produced the movie causing the riots in Egypt. According to both sources, the cell phone used by Youseff was traced back to his home in Cerritos, California.

Accounts pertaining to the funding of the movie differ. Youseff initially claimed that the video was funded by $5 million in donations from 100 Jewish donors, although he told authorities that he invested $50-60,000 that he obtained from his wife’s family in Egypt. Additionally, Youseff claimed to have written the movie script while incarcerated.

On September 27, 2012, two weeks after the Benghazi attack, Youseff was arrested by U.S. federal authorities in Los Angeles and charged violating terms of his probation for using an alias and allegedly making false statements to investigators. On November 7, 2012, he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to one year in prison and four years of supervised release. He is presently out of jail, on probation, and reportedly “in hiding.”
The Facilitator

Following the arrest of Mark Basseley Youssef, a/k/a Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a/k/a Sam Bacile, etc., a California licensed insurance salesman and self-described “unsophisticated James Bond operative” identified as Steven Klein, 64, came forward and proclaimed himself to be the spokesman for the movie maker, who he referred to as Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, an admitted false name. This author interviewed Mr. Klein on a special segment of The Hagmann & Hagmann report on September 23, 2013 for 90 minutes.

Steven Klein is a Vietnam Veteran and an outspoken critic of Muslim violence. It was allegedly Klein’s public anti-Islamic position that caused Nakoula (Youssef) to seek him months before the production of the film, ostensibly for advice on First Amendment issues. During my off-air interview with Mr. Klein, he was reluctant to explain exactly how Youssef was drawn to him, or how they knew met each other. He also declined to identify others who might be involved in the video, or anything beyond a very narrow set of talking points that appeared polished and rehearsed. He referred to Youssef and others he dealt with as Coptic Christian refugees who were, at that time, concerned for their safety.

Steven Klein claims that he first heard from Youssef once before the actual production of the movie, then again when the movie was completed and ready for a theater showing. He claims that at the point that the video was ready for a theater showing, it was the idea of the “filmmaker” to change the name of the video to The Innocence of Muslims to entice militant Muslims into seeing the video, thereby “brainwashing” them into converting away from Islam.

It was in June 2012 that Klein and Youssef set up two showings at the Vine Theater in Los Angeles. It is important to note that the statements of Klein and Youssef are inconsistent with the actual dissemination of the video, and further investigation pertaining to the promotion of the YouTube video does not comport with the statements of either Youssef or Klein. Investigation suggests yet another party (or multiple parties) involved in the electronic dissemination of the video.
The video chronology

14 July 2011: A “casting call” was posted to Craig’s List, soliciting actors and actresses to appear in a movie under the working title Desert Warrior. Research published by various websites such as gawker notes that key in the video’s production was 65-year-old Alan Roberts, a/k/a Robert Brownell, a film director and editor of films such as Young Lady Chatterly, The Happy Hooker goes to Hollywood, and Karate Cop.

http://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/HAGMANN051814-1.jpg

Roberts directing role was the result of a request by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. However, the actual identity of Roberts, a/k/a Robert Brownell, a/k/a Robert Alan Brown, remain in question. He is described as a Caucasian male in his mid 50s, and reportedly worked directly under Nakoula as the director. The problem, however, according to at least two of the primary actors of the film, was that Roberts did not anything about film directing. Accordingly, this investigator questions whether the man identified as Roberts is, in fact, Roberts or has any association to the film industry.

According to several cast members who appeared in the video, they were told that they were appearing in a historical drama set in the Middle East under the working title Desert Warrior, however the end product was a dubbed, spliced and edited version of their performance. It should also be noted that some of the scenes were shot in the Cerritos home of Mark Basseley Youssef, a/k/a Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

June 2012: The video, now titled The Innocence of Bn Laden[sic], was scheduled to be shown at the Vine Theater in Los Angeles, California on 30 June, 2012 under that new title. It is important to note, however, that this street title is different than the title that appeared on the Internet before, during and after this date. Two-(2) The Innocence of Bin Laden screenings were scheduled to play at the Vine Theater, and thousands of flyers written in Arabic were created and passed out in advance of that date.

29 June 2012 (Friday): A regular to the Los Angeles City Council meetings, a man identified as John Walsh, Hollywood resident and operator of a local blog site, participated in the general public comments. His appearance begins at the 2:30:15 mark in the archived footage of the Los Angeles meeting at City Hall. Rather cryptically, he simply asks rhetorically whether the “neo-Nazis are coming to Hollywood and directs the council members to his blog that references the Vince Theater showing.

30 June 2012 (Saturday): Accounts of the scheduled showings vary somewhat by publication, but based on the assertions of Steve Klein during the September 23rd edition of The Hagmann & Hagmann Report, the second showing was cancelled when no one showed up to watch the video. The theater reportedly “closed” the screening without incident.

1 July 2012 (Sunday): ONLINE: Interestingly, the title of the video that was published online was changed from The Innocence of Bn Laden to The Real Life of Muhammad on the YouTube channel hosted under the name Sam Bacile, now known to be Mark Basseley Youssef.

8 September 2012: On or about September 8, 2012, the video trailer was forwarded to television Sheikh Khalid Abdullah, an Islamic Cairo who aired just over two minutes of the trailer during his broadcast. Although it has not been established who forwarded the trailer to Abdullah, it is reasonable to believe that he would publicly televise the footage. This is ostensibly the cause for the violence in Cairo, which was forcibly associated with the attack in Benghazi by the Obama administration.

Otherwise, traffic to the video (and shorter trailer) remained relatively dormant.
Online/Digital forensic investigation

Until September 11, 2012, the video and trailer existed online on YouTube channels as The Innocence of bin Laden. Based on forensic examination, however, the name of the video was inexplicable changed from The Innocence of bin Laden to an expanded trailer known as Innocence of Muslims on a YouTube channel operated by an entity known as NewsPoliticsNow—most significantly, of all dates, on September 11, 2012. Channels affiliated with NewsPoliticsNow include numerical channels 1 through 3, as well as NewsPoliticsLeaks and FirstLeaks.

As I noted in my initial investigative report of this matter on September 24, 2012, I found an Internet video titled Proof Positive—In My Opinion posted by an individual on the YouTube channel under the user name “Montagraph.” Interestingly, I found that many of his findings mirrored mine (or mine his), as we both traced the Avatar image metadata used by the NewsPoliticsNow channel that changed the name of the video during the early morning hours of September 11, 2012, and hosted the video to then government contractor Stanley, Inc., since acquisitioned by CGI.

As an aside, it should be noted that CGI played a significant and very controversial role in the rollout of the Affordable Health Care Act (ObamaCare) website. They were awarded a $678 million no-bid contract to build the ObamaCare exchange web portal, which failed miserably. Also notable is the incestuous relationships between CGI Federal executives to both Barack and Michelle Obama, and that CGI enjoyed routine White House access.

In summary, process of changing the name of the video and disseminating it during the very early hours of September 11, 2012, corresponding with nearly the exact local time in Libya when the attack on the CIA compound was beginning, appears to be legitimately traced to an Internet entity tied to government contractor Stanley, Inc., based on detailed forensic examination.
False fallout

Based on the above, it should be reasonable to conclude that the official assertions made by then Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, UN Ambassador Susan Rice, and Barack Hussein Obama that the controversial video was the proximal cause of the attack in Benghazi is a deliberate fabrication.

It is interesting to note that following the attacks in Benghazi, the White House and the U.S. State Department curiously stated that the U.S. Government “has absolutely nothing to do with this video.” A person of reasonable sensibilities might ask why such a statement would be made without any charge that the video was created by the government. Why deny an act that lacks any current accusation?

The week of the attack, the U.S. then bought $70,000 worth of air time on seven Pakistani television channels to air an ad showing Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also denouncing the anti-Islamic video any denying any U.S. involvement in its production.[3]

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” - Albert Camus, 1957 Nobel Peace Prize winner for Literature

[1]http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/weekly-update-jw-finds-benghazi-smoking-gun/

[2] Other aliases, according to court documents, include: Matthew Nekola; Ahmed Hamdy; Amal Nada; Daniel K. Caresman; Kritbag Difrat; Sobhi Bushra; Robert Bacily; Nicola Bacily; Thomas J. Tanas; Erwin Salameh; Mark Basseley Youssef; Yousseff M. Basseley; Malid Ahlawi; P.J. Tobacco.

[3]http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/20/13992235-us-spends-70000-on-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite

2 Comments--Comment here

Scroll down this page for Disqus Comments

Copyright © Douglas J. Hagmann and Canada Free Press

Douglas J. Hagmann and his son, Joe Hagmann host The Hagmann & Hagmann Report, a live Internet radio program broadcast each weeknight from 8:00-10:00 p.m. ET.

Douglas Hagmann, founder & director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, and a multi-state licensed private investigative agency. Doug began using his investigative skills and training to fight terrorism and increase public awareness through his website. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/63152#.U3jjcn1974Q.twitter

Doug can be reached at: director@homelandsecurityus.com

what this says, is what I've been saying all along, video creation and release linked to the CIA used to cover their secret ops that will never be revealed...

I know many of you are wondering why I shared this being an obvious "Cheney" CIA planted story slanted against the white house...

when they said no US involvement, they all looked around not seeing any connection...

until they put a bullet in Director of CIA Petraeus career several weeks later... 300 military officers removed from duty... The white house wasn't controlling the country on Sept 11th when the Benghazi attack happened, but they are now that Bush/Cheney's soldiers have been eliminated.

Hillary and Obama, taking blame for not sharing the right intelligence will make them heroes, just like Oliver north, what harm comes from misreading intelligence, well what happened to Bush after attacking Iraq on an oops intelligence report? Daddy Bush put Saddam into power just for a war to control oil by having him removed? They knew he had WMDs because they gave him whatever he wanted which included WMDs, he used them on the Kurds...

Benghazi is now a war zone, a General from the area has moved in to erase Islamic extremist, they are taking no survivors, once extreme always extreme and need erasing.

Egypt convicted 1212 extremists to death, the 12th is what the extremist are waiting for...

as I said, a made for Hollywood scripted movie, but Ben had it right in 2012...

"The murder of CIA “ambassador” Stevens in Libya, was a part of the ongoing battle. According to the gnostic illuminati, Stevens was murdered because of his role in smuggling the nuclear weapon into Japan that was used in the 311 tsunami and nuclear terror attack.

It is true that there is a resemblance between the Stevens who was implicated in the nuclear attack on Japan and the one killed in Libya. However, the Stevens in Asia was supposed to be a British SAS trained former senior Hong Kong police official while the Stevens in Libya was CIA.

There is a deliberate fog of disinformation surrounding this death but what is clear from public statements is that the Obama faction failed to protect him and the Bush faction are furious about this fact. It is also well known that there was no US embassy in Benghazi and that Stevens was involved in some sort of violence related clandestine work.

This is also linked to the upcoming US “presidential election” farce. Plenty of insiders have forwarded information showing links between Romney’s Bain capital and CIA drug money laundering"

why does no one trust a Republican any longer?

nothing crosses their lips but lies...

where are the true Republican leaders that believe a bought man should not be a leader...

to remove 1% controls, politicians need to be real...

is it possible when positions need to be bought?

Koch is spending Billions this election to buy the Senate for Republican oil control...

the Zionist wing is taking back control, our voices will be silence and WW III will begin...

Rocky_Shorz

19th May 2014, 02:28

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn8oNl2CQAA0ypG.jpg

Nine

19th May 2014, 04:52

Rocky,

Thank you for your fabulous information!!

A bit on said "journalist" Mr Hagmann....

"I. Premier Disinformation Source on the Web
Northeast Intelligence Network is the premier government disinformation source on the web. The site claims over 30 million visitors this year alone, and its amazing production levels indicate a substantial budget drawn from deep pockets. It is always current on any news topic that can be used to spread fear. In fact, if you want to know what the monolithic U.S. propaganda machine will be doing next week on CNN, Fox, New York Times, et al, Hagmann is so close to the source he will be telling you about it today.

The main purpose of the website is to spread fear. It attempts to disguise its actual sponsor by including a running criticism of the Bush administration for not doing enough to root out that crazed radical who lives on your very own street. Being critical, which the Bushies don't mind at all, lets you assume they are independent while in fact the actual message simply reinforces the party line.

Intelligence agents in the field of psychological operations share a common trait with many other shady businesses. They all believe their customers are fools. Conversely they are so impressed with their own cleverness that they can't resist leaving little clues which they believe the public is too dumb to decipher, but will be quickly recognized by other professionals - somewhat like showing off to others in the trade. The site makes no bones about who it belongs to. Despite a small denial it is, after all, www homeland security us, and in an incarnation that includes audio, "homeland security's blog".

NEIN (German for "No") sports an unusual logo. Supposedly made of 9-11 airplane wings that look a lot more like boomerangs returning to their source, it is actually a tilted cross. It has four elements, and the fourth element is red. It is a symbolic representation of the swastika and hints at the newly emerging Fourth Reich, the behind the scenes objective that has guided U.S. national affairs for several decades. Branching into very professional web audio (podcasts), the group has created the "Enigma Network", named for the advanced Nazi code machine that was the focus of such intense intelligence operations in World War II that it has been featured in countless films."

http://ken-welch.com/Reports/Hagmann.html

You get the picture Rocky...

Is this blogger accurate? Who knows....since I lack a high level security clearance....

Hagmann likes Garrow that worm of a scamer in the Christian community...

Much of the alternative media now is simply a limited hang out and as Gordon Duff says "pay attention" and I am paying attention now to who supports and promotes such information upon the net and now I take note....as it were....

And I know subjects like this inflame many readers on Avalon but you sir are doing a service to this forum with your posts.....

Nine

Nine

19th May 2014, 05:08

Shocker! VT is blaming the Jews.

This post of yours seems to be a trolling post however, since I don't know you I simply can not say....but to call what I and Rocky have posted as bullshyt with out any evidence to the contrary leaves me to consider your internet character and I will keep said under advisement.....as it were....

You should have left your very informative post up for us to discuss....

Nine

Nine

19th May 2014, 05:36

Gordon Duff just lays it out in his informal writing style about Benghazi.....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/22/vts-30-day-old-story-on-benghazi-had-it-right/

This was a well planned and very professional military special forces operation that was very well funded from somebody's deep pockets....

And I will say this from the Ukraine to the Bundy ranch this is all connected to the same source of funding.....as it were...

Nine

Nine

19th May 2014, 06:02

Dearest Rocky,

About the Republicans...

I have a very long and dear friend who is a former local republican and powerful bank president who says that the Tea Party is the end of the Republican party as we know it....

We talked about income distribution to the endless wars and my pal turned 88 and is sharp as a whip....as it were....

I am a political atheist but with that said how could anyone vote for a republican with all of this scum and dirt...some would say that they are all the same but not me not now with all this going down....

Well it is what it is thanks Rocky....

Nine

Rocky_Shorz

19th May 2014, 15:43

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn7VXwxIcAAh8G0.jpg:large

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

The Republican inquisition over the attacks against Americans in Benghazi has never really gone away, but it appears as though in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing and the House Oversight Committee's Benghazi hearings this week there are renewed psycho-histrionics over Benghazi.

Lindsey Graham and Fox News Channel in particular are each crapping their cages over new allegations from an alleged whistleblower, while they continue to deal in previously debunked falsehoods about the sequence of events during and following the attacks. Fox News is predictably helming the biggest raft of hooey on the situation -- turning its attention to Hillary Clinton in an abundantly obvious early move to stymie her presidential run before it even begins.

So I thought I'd revisit some territory I covered back in October as a bit of a refresher -- especially since it appears as if no one, including and especially the traditional press, intends to ask any of these obnoxious, opportunistic liars about why they're so obsessed by this one attack yet they entirely ignored the dozen-plus consulate/embassy attacks that occurred when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were allegedly "keeping us safe."

The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

A few observations about this timeline. My initial list was quoted from an article on the Daily Kos which actually contained several errors and only 11 attacks (the above timeline contains all 13 attacks). Also, my list above doesn't include the numerous and fatal attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad during the Iraq war -- a war that was vocally supported by Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Fox News Channel.

Speaking of Graham, I ran a search on each attack along with the name "Lindsey Graham" in the hopes of discovering that Graham had perhaps commented about the attacks or raised some questions about why the administration didn't prevent the attacks or respond accordingly to prevent additional embassy attacks. No results. Of course. Now, this could mean the search wasn't exhaustive enough. But one thing's for sure: neither Graham nor any of his cohorts launched a crusade against the Bush administration and the State Department in any of those cases -- no one did, including the congressional Democrats, by the way.

This leads us to the ultimate point here. Not only have numerous sources previously debunked the Benghazi information being peddled by the Republicans and Fox News (for example, contrary to what the Republicans are saying, yes, reinforcements did in fact arrive before the attack on the CIA compound), but none of these people raised a single word of protest when, for example, American embassies in Yemen and Pakistan were attacked numerous times. Why didn't the Bush administration do something to secure the compounds after the first attacks? Why didn't he provide additional security?

Where was your inquest after the Karachi attacks, Mr. Graham? Where were you after the Sana'a attacks, Mr. Hannity? What about all of the embassy attacks in Iraq that I didn't even list here, Mr. McCain? Do you realize how many people died in attacks on U.S. embassies and consulates when Bush was supposedly keeping us safe, Mr. Ailes? Just once I'd like to hear David Gregory or George Stephanopoulos or Wolf Blitzer ask a Republican member of Congress about the above timeline and why they said nothing at the time of each attack. Just once.

Nearly every accusation being issued about Benghazi could've been raised about the Bush-era attacks, and yet these self-proclaimed truth-seekers refused to, in their words, undermine the commander-in-chief while troops were in harm's way (a line they repeated over and over again during those years).

So we're only left to conclude the obvious. The investigations and accusations and conspiracy theories are entirely motivated by politics and a strategy to escalate this to an impeachment trial. In doing so, the Republicans have the opportunity not only to crush the president's second term, but also to sabotage the potential for a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Even if they never arrive at that goal, they have in their possession a cudgel formed of horse**** -- a means of flogging the current administration with the singularly effective Republican marketing/noise machine, including the conservative entertainment complex. Very seldom does this machine fail to revise history and distort the truth. Ultimately, they don't even need a full-blown impeachment proceeding when they have a population of way too many truthers and automatons who take all of these lies at face value -- not to mention dubiously sourced chunks of "truth" proffered by radio and cable news conspiracy theorists who, if nothing else, are masters at telling angry conservatives precisely what they want to hear: that the probably-Muslim president is weak on terrorism. And so they'll keep repeating "Benghazi-Gate, Benghazi-Gate, Benghazi-Gate!" without any regard for history or reality. Like always. link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/13-benghazis-that-occurre_b_3246847.html?utm_hp_ref=tw)

quite the rant, but I thought it was pretty funny so posted it all, of course this was debunked saying - "So of all the Americans killed, only one was a diplomat, and he was killed almost instantly. Nine others were defense contractors."

yes that is worse than the Benghazi attack, but it was OK because Cheney didn't have a chance to defend like they did in Benghazi... always another spin...

Rocky_Shorz

20th May 2014, 06:40

Rocky_Shorz

22nd May 2014, 03:57

The Benghazi Panel...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoMRuJnIIAAQ6ih.jpg

Rocky_Shorz

22nd May 2014, 20:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Gm-JFmjQQ

The Life & Crimes of Dick Cheney

" Published on May 14, 2014

"Five Deferments" Dick Cheney is back, and this time he's defending torture! Jesse Ventura may be #OffTheGrid, but he isn't going to let Darth Cheney get away with it. The Governor runs down the Life and Crimes of the Ultimate Chickenhaw from his tenure at Halliburton to his time as Vice President right up to his recent justification of waterboarding. What do you think was Cheney's greatest offense? Tell Jesse at ora.tv/offthegrid/askjesse."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8
http://www.lifeintheknow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/911.jpg

4 Reasons Why Some People Believe 911 Was an Inside Job
by lifeintheknow on May 12, 2014 in News

"Since the tragic events of September 11, 2001 there have been hundreds of thousands of people which includes hundreds of Architects and Engineers who believe that we have been fooled by what the authorities say really happened on that tragic day.

Sadly, most people refuse to even look at the evidence, which is understandable because none of us would like to know that we have been fooled, especially by the people we trust, such as our leaders.

This is a very serious subject especially since the attack on 9/11 triggered the start of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan where almost 1 million people have lost their lives. Thousands of US and NATO soldiers have died in those wars and many thousands more were injured both physically and mentally. The war on terror also added trillions to the American national debt and brought us
The Patriot Act and The National Defense Authorization Act .

With all of that being said, let’s look at some of the reasons why so many people believe that the official 9/11 story could not be true. We will also examine some of the evidence which supports the official story. You will probably find yourself believing certain parts of the official story while not believing others.

Here is a video where RT flat outs calls 911 an inside job. Have a look at the evidence they provide in the video. Lots of compelling evidence in the video including the fact that the government had many meetings with Al Queda before 2001."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugCIjzHptA&feature=player_embedded

"Here is an interview with Dr Niels Harrit who is a Danish Professor of chemistry and nano-science, and a famous 9/11 truth researcher who has been giving lectures in many different countries.

If you do not have time to watch the video I will summarize his main points as to why he believes the official 9/11 story cannot be true."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ovc8MgZyU&feature=player_embedded

"Here are the main reasons why Dr Harrit and thousands of other Architects and Engineers do not believe the official 9/11 story.

1. Two Planes Caused 3 Skyscrapers To Fall

Most people do not know this as it has not been reported much on the main stream media but there was a third building that fell on Sept. 11 called building 7. The official reason given for the collapse of building 7 is that it was due to fire. The problem as Dr Niels pointed out is that if you look at the video of building 7 falling you will see that it collapsed perfectly into it’s own footprint which is impossible to do without explosives.

Fire, even from jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel and cause such a perfect collapse of a steel building such as building 7.

The offices in building 7 were occupied by the CIA who had their secret New York undercover headquarters, The IRS, The Pentagon where all the files were held from the investigation of the $2.3 trillion Donald Rumsfeld said went missing 2 days before 9/11, The SEC who had files in their offices of over 4000 cases of fraud being investigated by them and the Secret Service.

All of the secret files in those offices were destroyed during the collapse of building 7.

Here is the video where you will see how building 7 collapsed and how it looks like explosives were used."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=player_embedded

"With regards to the Twin Towers, there were no official reason given in the 14000 page report as to why the towers collapsed.

2. The Tiny Hole in The Pentagon

9/11 Truthers claim that the hole in the Pentagon was only 16ft wide and that the nose of the plane is made of soft materials and that there is no way it could penetrate so far into a strong reinforced building such as the Pentagon.

The Pentagon is fitted with super expensive security and surveillance systems but yet there is no video footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon.

The wreckage of the plane was also gone and believed to be shipped overseas which conveniently got rid of all the evidence.

Here is an excerpt from an article on Popular Mechanics where they attempt to debunk the Pentagon Conspiracy theory.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-pentagon

Claim: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building’s exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon’s middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. “How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?” asks reopen911.org, a Web site “dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001.”

The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile—part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. “This attack,” he writes, “could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel.”
Hole Truth: Flight 77′s landing gear punched a 12-ft. hole into the Pentagon’s Ring C. (Photograph by Department of Defense)FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon’s exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn’t the hole as wide as a 757′s 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn’t punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon’s load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. “If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building,” Sozen tells PM, “it didn’t happen.”

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet’s landing gear, not by the fuselage."

"3. Who was Osama Bin Laden?

The following is from the 911 truth website.

a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department”s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the “base” (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?

Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the “Bin Ladin Airlift” during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.

4. Mysterious Deaths of Potential Whistle Blowers

The following came from Beforeitsnews.com

Let’s now cover Deborah Palfrey, who had information exposing government officials through her escort service, Pamela Martin and Associates, she also claimed to have information about 9/11 being a government staged attack. She was in deep with the feds and planned to expose them in court. She feared she was going to be “suicided” by the government like many other 9/11 victims that had information were.

Suicided basically means that the victim is killed and the crime scene is staged to look like a suicide. In an interview on the Alex Jones show in July 2007, Palfrey explicitly stated, “I’m not planning to commit suicide” and made clear her intentions to present her case at trial, saying, “I plan on exposing the government in ways that I do not think they want me to expose them”. On May 1, 2008, Palfrey was found hanging in a storage shed outside her mother’s mobile home in Tarpon Springs, Florida." link (http://www.lifeintheknow.com/4-reasons-why-some-people-believe-911-was-and-inside-job/)

Rocky_Shorz

22nd May 2014, 20:41

Rush Limbaugh is going off how the White House Apology came out before the video, so let's go over this again...

"8 September 2012: On or about September 8, 2012, the video trailer was forwarded to television Sheikh Khalid Abdullah, an Islamic Cairo who aired just over two minutes of the trailer during his broadcast. Although it has not been established who forwarded the trailer to Abdullah, it is reasonable to believe that he would publicly televise the footage. This is ostensibly the cause for the violence in Cairo, which was forcibly associated with the attack in Benghazi by the Obama administration..."

9 September 2012: 30 Christians Coptics were killed and 300 injured...

Very disturbing video... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hySFb4WiMrU&feature=player_detailpage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au6tbb9Zgkw

Pakistan IoM Riots 13 killed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLUTBoxQR4&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZUDFzfZos

riots going on in 8 nations over the film when Benghazi happened...

I can't really tell the difference between their peaceful riots and attacking an embassy, but if I was asked moments after seeing riots going on across the middle east, I would have suspected the same for Benghazi.

Did Darrell Issa Just Sabotage the New Benghazi Committee?
By Brian Beutler @brianbeutler

Either Darrell Issa is so miffed at Republican leaders for yanking the Benghazi investigation out from under him that he's intentionally undermining the new House Select Committee, or he just vindicated those who believe he wasn't up to the task. Either way he just blew a hole in one big piece of the conspiracy theory.

A still-classified State Department e-mail says that one of the first responses from the White House to the Benghazi attack was to contact YouTube to warn of the “ramifications” of allowing the posting of an anti-Islamic video, according to Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The memo suggests that even as the attack was still underway—and before the CIA began the process of compiling talking points on its analysis of what happened—the White House believed it was in retaliation for a controversial video.

The White House is thrilled with this revelation because it supports the view that their early citations of the YouTube video were sincere—not intended to whitewash the truth, that American public servants had been victims of a terrorist attack. The claim that this YouTube business was all a big lie is central to the entire convoluted Benghazi conspiracy, and something Select Committee chairman Trey Gowdy has harped upon in the past. Just two weeks ago, Gowdy told Charlie Rose, " I think that Ben Rhodes memo was probably the straw that broke the camel's back because that memo made it really clear that we're going to blame an internet video and not a broader policy failure in Libya.... If you really think it was the video, then site me all the evidence." Issa's leak is the evidence." link (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117866/issa-benghazi-leak-undermines-conspiracy-theory)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBWt3jIIAAkSHi.jpg

InTheBackground

23rd May 2014, 02:00

So, when did this become a Democrat vs Republican/Liberal vs Conservative issue? More divisiveness, that's all it is, can't you see?. Ditch the politics! Please. :-)

Rocky_Shorz

23rd May 2014, 03:24

it was created for political reasons, so impossible not to have it included, the Benghazi cover-up was created only to have Obama impeached and Clinton knocked out of the 2016 election

all of the spins that have gone on for years has finally come to a head and in 1 day, it's finished, this should have been started years ago.

I'm just sharing the truths to shut down discussions because I am sick of it.

only 2 died at the embassy attack, Chris and a computer dude from San Diego.

several hours later the 2nd attack at the CIA compound, where 2 CIA agents were killed and 10 were injured...

Hefter, is the General that now has 70,000 troops and 2 air bases under his command in Libya

He is gathering the suspects who were on the compound that evening.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/seeking-information-on-attacks-in-benghazi/image/photo-array-of-unknown-subjects-05-13-14

I have been using twitter to contact the voices of the #Teaparty and #GOP so they aren't only looking at the info being fed to them by @FoxNews

they've almost gone silent, I am trying to get their attention on the 1.9 million disabled vets that our country has failed to take care of from the Gulf wars.

this photo shows Chris was still alive being helped by someone that isn't trying to hurt him, he was hauled out of a burning building.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ScreenHunter_688-Sep.-22-14.01.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB0QPfpCAAAFwJK.jpg

Chris was actually loved by Libyans, a massive protest followed against those involved in his death.

This is Sean, Webmaster, Gamer, all around computer Dude from San Diego...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Sean_Smith_Diplomat.jpg/300px-Sean_Smith_Diplomat.jpg

link to attack details (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack)

Rocky_Shorz

23rd May 2014, 05:45

Libyans Fight Back Against Ansar Al-Sharia

Benghazi — Some 100 people have reportedly been killed since Friday (May 16th), when retired Libyan General Khalifa Haftar launched his unsanctioned offensive against armed extremist groups in Benghazi.

The move is dividing political and military figures. Libyan authorities accuse the retired general of attempting a coup against the GNC.

But some endorse his action because it targets armed extremists.

Supporters of Haftar's operation include a former Ansar al-Sharia member.

"I and more than 50 other young men joined Ansar al-Sharia," said A.N from Benghazi, who asked to be identified by just his initials, for fear of reprisal.

"We started working with them in charitable activities and began attending religious lessons, but we didn't know that they were the ones carrying out the bombings and assassinations. When we knew that, we withdrew and left the group," he told Magharebia.

He continued: "We're now threatened and wanted by Ansar al-Sharia because in their views, we're apostates," he added. "They're now hunting us down, one after the other."

"They just kill those who quit, because they accuse them of kufr," he added. "There are young men who are stuck with them."

Many blame Ansar al-Sharia for the Benghazi violence and welcome any action taken against the group.

According to attorney Mohamed al-Ramli, 35, Ansar al-Sharia is "behind the killings, bombings and massacres targeting Libyans".

"The foreign elements in Ansar al-Sharia are training the group in bombings and suicide operations under the pretext of jihad," he added.

Other Libyans just want life in Benghazi to return to normal.

"We hope that the alliance of military personnel under the command of General Haftar will bring good and help us get rid of the terrorist operations that take place every day in Benghazi," 29-year-old teacher Fatima al-Hasi said.
link (http://allafrica.com/stories/201405230077.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Rocky_Shorz

23rd May 2014, 22:10

Rallies going on today in Benghazi against militant violence

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVkjJkCIAAuVT_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVOefjIYAAViWD.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVUksoCMAEVxLx.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoWb5L5CAAAoRBJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoXZgA8IAAA1pcn.jpg

the 9/11 truths you never thought you would hear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQR2z4YCzDw

Rocky_Shorz

28th May 2014, 19:17

today the General who took over Military forces in Libya, is bombing the 17th Brigade. They are the same group that was guarding Chris Stevens, but left their posts with the gates open for the attack that followed.

so the CIA agents disappeared that were injured, and now the group with answers on what was happening, is getting bombed into dust...

hey McCain, you better get out to Libya and talk quick for Benghazi info... :pound:

Rocky_Shorz

29th May 2014, 10:29

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BowtVQYCMAATaSi.png

just so Avalon knows, we had a massive solar flare hit at that moment, earth directed. I was hit by the same wave grabbing a pole to keep from collapsing on the ground.

we are gifted, and felt it...

so if Hillary felt it like us, we should push her aside?

or should we recognize her as one of us, I'm connected to Bill, should we let Hillary in?

thunder24

29th May 2014, 12:42

hell no...

ain't no way no how... hell no...

do you know how many murders are surrounding her and Bill all the way back to Arkansas? of course you do...

Darth Vader had the ability to use the force just like yoda, but they weren't on the same side....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BowtVQYCMAATaSi.png

just so Avalon knows, we had a massive solar flare hit at that moment, earth directed. I was hit by the same wave grabbing a pole to keep from collapsing on the ground.

we are gifted, and felt it...

so if Hillary felt it like us, we should push her aside?

or should we recognize her as one of us, I'm connected to Bill, should we let Hillary in?

Rocky_Shorz

6th June 2014, 06:52

I still want to see Bill as First Lady

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpEP6llIYAEM_Xi.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpYXYi4IgAAMKxj.png

Nine

7th June 2014, 03:14

Are they going to crucify another vet?

http://youtu.be/iBqyM_WwmjI

Love them chicken hawks....

Nine

Rocky_Shorz

7th June 2014, 03:37

3 of the Taliban released were on their way to switch sides to Afghan when arrested... Tribal leaders who could have ended the war 10+ years ago

any idea why Bush didn't release them with the other 500 from Guantánamo?

Rocky_Shorz

18th June 2014, 02:08

Benghazi Suspect Said He Was Moved To Take Revenge For American-Made Video

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/06/18/world/18BENGHAZI-2/18BENGHAZI-2-master180.jpg

"Benghazi attack suspect Ahmed Abu Khattala, who was captured by U.S. forces on Sunday, told people the move against the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya was intended as revenge for an American-made online video that was seen as an attack to Islam, according to the New York Times.

The New York Times reported Tuesday:
"What he did in the period just before the attack has remained unclear. But Mr. Abu Khattala told other Libyans in private conversations during the night of the attack that he was moved to attack the diplomatic mission to take revenge for an insult to Islam in an American-made online video.

An earlier demonstration venting anger over the video outside the American Embassy in Cairo had culminated in a breach of its walls, and it dominated Arab news coverage. Mr. Abu Khattala told both fellow Islamist fighters and others that the attack in Benghazi was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him.

In an interview days after the attack, he pointedly declined to say whether he believed an offense such as the anti-Islamic video might indeed warrant the destruction of the diplomatic mission or the killing of the ambassador. “From a religious point of view, it is hard to say whether it is good or bad,” he said." link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/benghazi-suspect-video_n_5505181.html)

I looked back to several days after the attack when he spoke with the AFP

"

Libyan Islamist leader Ahmed Abu Khattala denied any role in the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans last month in an interview with AFP on Thursday.

A series of US media reports had implicated Abu Khattala. One published on Wednesday, citing anonymous Libyan officials and witnesses, identified him as a commander involved in the deadly September 11 assault on the US consulate in Libya's second city Benghazi.

Abu Khattala, who led the Obeida Ibn Jarrah Brigade during the bloody uprising that toppled and killed dictator Moamer Kadhafi last year, vehemently denied the allegations in an interview with AFP.

"The report is a lie and all its contents are fabricated, baseless and lacking any credibility," he said.

"Some claim I have left Benghazi and fled the country but, as you can see, talking to me in my house, this is not true.

"There are no new developments on the subject of the US consulate," he said, adding that the reports reflected interests.

"What we can say is that a group of people came out to demonstrate and the guards tasked with protecting the consulate opened fire. I don't know whether this came from the American or the Libyan section (of the guards)," he said... link (http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/libya-islamist-denies-role-us-consulate-killings-194824944.html)