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GuyFox
15th May 2014, 03:04
More Than One Billion People 'Hold Anti-Semitic Views', Says ADL

/ Consider this carefully:
"Anti-Semitic" has become a weaponised word,
that Zios use to silence their critics.
And the "threat" of being overwhelmed by "Anti-semitic" people
has been a great fund-raising ploy used by the ADL.
In fact, Jews have been caught painting Swasticas on their own buildings,
in order to Hype the threats they are said to be fighting. /

New research from the Anti-Defamation League reveals that one in four people worldwide, or about 1 billion people, hold anti-Semitic views.

The Jewish rights organization surveyed more than 50,000 adults from 100 countries. Respondents were asked to rate how much they agreed or disagreed with 11 Jewish stereotypes such as "Jews have too much control over the global media" and "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." Agreeing with six or more of the statements slotted a person in the anti-Semitic category.

Guardian Poll : http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/14/one-in-four-people-worldwide-holds-antisemitic-views-study-finds?CMP=twt_gu

> Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/14/anti-semitism_n_5323142.html

"What's a Semite?"

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Meantime, the facts show...

"To know him is to love him??"
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Look at the countries which are not very anti-semitic:

"The top 10 of the most anti-Semitic countries are all in the Middle East, with Iraq and Yemen placing second and third respectively.
Laos, Philippines, and Sweden were the countries holding the least anti-Semitic views..."

(please note; I haven't posted a single comment of my own, only collected some comments from others.)

Chip
15th May 2014, 04:13
Hmm, well these studies are great.
I've spent personally many years in Israel and have worked for many very super Rich Israelis.
I still to this day hesitate on my experience because of being labeled for my views.
To be honest if I were to express them I would be labelled.
So I keep my mouth shut, but I'm 'pissed'. To be honest.
It's too dangerous.
All I can say is that from a non religious view point is that they are not friendly.
Take that for what it's worth.
Will not ever!!!!! Work for them again!!!

Rocky_Shorz
15th May 2014, 04:18
I am anti anyone who cries like they've been beaten, and turn around and treat everyone with different beliefs as a being of lower existence that they abuse and humiliate...

when they grow up, and say don't cry for me, just those who I have hurt...

I will judge differently...

GuyFox
15th May 2014, 04:30
Hmm, well these studies are great.
I've spent personally many years in Israel and have worked for many very super Rich Israelis.
I still to this day hesitate on my experience because of being labeled for my views.
To be honest if I were to express them I would be labelled.
So I keep my mouth shut, but I'm 'pissed'. To be honest.
It's too dangerous.
All I can say is that from a non religious view point is that they are not friendly.
Take that for what it's worth.
Will not ever!!!!! Work for them again!!!

Yeah. I understand completely.
I suppose this thread will tiptoe around some issues which might be "too dangerous" to discuss more openly.
(I must point out that I know too many fine Jewish people to want to start a Hate campaign, but there are some matters which I think should be more open to discussion than is easy to talk about in a highly "political correct" society that the US and other Western countries has become.)

The POLL was interesting - since it seemed to be examining what they called 11 "stereotypes", which were:

THE ADL FOUND SOMEONE TO BE ANTI-SEMITIC
IF THEY ANSWERED 'PROBABLY' OR 'DEFINITELY' TO SIX OF THESE 11 STATEMENTS
1. Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]: 41%
2. Jews have too much power in the business world: 35%
3. Jews have too much power in international financial markets: 34%
4. Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust: 30%
5. Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind: 33%
6. Jews have too much control over global affairs: 29%
7. Jews have too much control over the United States government: 25%
8. Jews think they are better than other people: 34%
9. Jews have too much control over the global media: 25%
10. Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars: 23%
11. People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave: 32%
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Opinions or Facts ??

If you think the Federal Reserve is too powerful, and you see how many members of the Fed's board are Jewish (especially compared to their share of US population), is it opinion or fact to agree with a Poll Question like this:

"2. Jews have too much power in the business world: (35%)
"3. Jews have too much power in international financial markets: (34%)

Let's face it, many Americans are not well informed, and so they may not think about the questions deeply enough, so they can back up their so-called "opinions" with enough evidence, that they can say they are facts.

Could it be that the real purpose of the ADL is to misinform people, so they cannot recognise facts, and support them with evidence?

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I am anti anyone who cries like they've been beaten, and turn around and treat everyone with different beliefs as a being of lower existence that they abuse and humiliate...
when they grow up, and say don't cry for me, just those who I have hurt...
I will judge differently...

Good point, Rocky.
There's an old saying: You become what you hate.
It seems ironic that Jews, who were treated especially badly in the WW2 period, seem to be so willing and able to pass on that bad treatment to Palestinians.

Rocky_Shorz
15th May 2014, 04:45
Jews believe in a book...

Christians and Muslims believe in the same book...

so if beliefs are the same, 6 Billion people are Jewish

now the 1 billion left still would say yes to at least 6 of the 11

in fact, even Jews would say yes to at least 6

so that makes it a clean sweep, every human capable of making a decision on their own in this world are antisemitic...

welcome to my world... ;)

seriously so what?

Iran ranked lowest in the Middle east, did they ADL praise them for loving Jews?

let's add another few

do you believe Jews were behind 9/11? WWII? Hitler? 3/11/11?

how many Jews need to know and make a decision for all of them to be included in a statement?

do we blame Bush, Koch and Cheney's actions on all Christians?

what if a leader has a boot on their throat for persuasion?

people who can discuss truths, know them...

those who are intimidated into silence are the ones creating the stereotypes...

ADL is exposed as a complete joke after emailing the fliers to scare Jews about deportation by NAZIs, they themselves have created the stereotypes just by formulating questions in a way that includes all the Jews in a single line stereotype.

ask the 11 questions again as, do you think a few Jews were involved... and you would get 100% antisemitic responses from everyone polled.

truth be told, all Israelis are anti Semites, because Semites are the gentiles that have lived in the middle east since before the Jews arrived to claim it for themselves. they even took the title Semites from the Palestinians... 97% of semites polled are anti-semitic for good reason.

Rocky_Shorz
15th May 2014, 04:56
I think God sorted everyone before they were born with a very simple question...

will you give 10% of your earnings to helping the less fortunate?

those who said yes, became Christians, Muslims, Buddhist and Hindu

those who bargained and said how about 5% became Jewish

those who offered 1% became Jewish Bankers at the Federal Reserve... :pound:

phillipbbg
15th May 2014, 05:30
Mmmm wonder if anyone has done a pole of the Jewish people on how they view and define Non-gentiles what sort of % would be shall we say inflammatory, bigoted, prejudice etc

After all they do have very specific slang terms for non-gentiles and some extra labels when they feel the need such as :Shiksa refers to any non-Jewish (gentile) woman or girl who might be a temptation to Jewish men or boys

Or of course The equivalent term for a non-Jewish male, used less frequently, is shegetz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiksa

Then of course there is Goyim ...............

Now lets look at the motive behind these sorts of threads and posts....... DIVISION, SEPARATISM ETC .... is that really what this is all about.... just another form of bank derivatives gambling to make more shackles....lol

Rocky_Shorz
15th May 2014, 05:45
Now lets look at the motive behind these sorts of threads and posts....... DIVISION, SEPARATISM ETC .... is that really what this is all about.... just another form of bank derivatives gambling to make more shackles....lol

I try to teach compartmentalizing to remove stereo types instead of creating them.

was a Jew involved in everything bad that happened in this world since they arrived? most likely...

was a Jew involved in everything good that happened in this world since they arrived? again, I would say most likely...

so how do you hate a group of people for a few persons actions when they have done so much good combined?

we're human, nobody said we were perfect...


you do know shutting down a sensitive conversation on truths of anti-Antisemitism is very Jewish of you... :pound:


The Jewish Lobby Spends Billions on propaganda to teach their truths...

to repeat their words...

to fill every corner of the internet with their stories

We are a voice that isn't silenced, we speak truths that would mean death in some countries...

how can kicking back and talking about anything you believe cost you your life...

they are Words

I gave Words to Israel...

a day of the great flood followed...

so why should I listen to their words if they won't listen to mine?

here, I share without being called names, ridiculed or threatened...

you didn't have to read anything I shared, so why did you? :eyebrows:


now here is a good 12th question: when you look at a Gold and Blood Moon, does it remind you of Recent Jewish history...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnpxUtWIcAAVFE5.jpg

Matt P
15th May 2014, 11:55
This is a loaded topic, maybe even too loaded for around here. But this survey fits in perfectly with what Jews require to exist. Without the rest of the world hating them or feeling sorry for them, they have no identity. They want it as an "us against them" thing. That way they can justify all manner of crimes against others as defense of themselves. And, of course, the whole debate is silly because most Jews aren't Jews at all. And the Holocaust is a false flag just like 9/11, Sandy Hook, Pearl Harbor and all the rest. Oops, now I've done it. Can't peel the lid off too much...

Matt

GuyFox
15th May 2014, 12:14
Why this Poll?

I think it has something to do with the ADL wanting to maintain its funding, and its power.
In case you have not noticed, the current Head of the ADL will retire next year:

http://theneworder.org/media/82891/foxman-abe-happy.jpg
Abe Foxman, thinking about his handsome salary perhaps?

Feb 11, 2014 - Jewish Scene: National Director of Anti-defamation League announces intention to resign in 2015...

> see: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4486919,00.html

In the past, the ADL has been accused of "creating its own opposition", ie funding websites and protests against Jews, so that the need for an organisation like ADL will become "more clear." Does this tactic sound familiar?

Hervé
15th May 2014, 12:56
Something to consider regarding these polls and twisting of meanings:

One would have to really work hard to turn the following into an anti-semitic gesture:



What is 'La Quenelle'?


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/163398/pod/images2.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/163398/full/images2.jpg)
© Unknown This scale helps measure the intensity of the 'quenelle' to be dished out. Here Dieudonné is demonstrating the 'shoulder quenelle', a 3-foot long special.

'Quenelle' is in fact a traditional meat pie dish served up in the region around Lyon. Playing on its rolled-up sausage shape, Dieudonné punctuates his comedic sketches by pointing to a certain length of his outstretched arm to denote the size of the quenelle he thinks whichever public figure he is mocking deserves to have shoved 'where the sun don't shine'. And because he invariably makes this gesture at the tail-end of a lengthy monologue in which he has skilfully (and hilariously) exposed the public figure's lies, inconsistencies, or just plain ignorance, Dieudonné generally gives full marks to his subject by pointing all the way to the top of his arm - the message being that said public figure has spouted so much nonsense that he deserves having a generous portion of quenelle 'shoved up his backside'!

Yet, that was managed by associating "Quenelle = Nazi gesture = antisemitism" being plastered, repeatedly all over Europe's Main Stream Media...

Beware the day a defiant middle-finger is labelled similarly...

STR
15th May 2014, 13:27
More Than One Billion People 'Hold Anti-Semitic Views', Says ADL

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Probably way conservative. All humans are in such denial really about racism and bias. No one considers that we all have it and were born with it. If you look at life for what it is and read the ancient tales for what they teach its plain to see the Originator did this on purpose. For the same reasons the skin colors were made different, cultures made different, language confounded, both sacred geometry and that language and vocalizing, blood type differences and more all to cause these very 'obstacles' or clashes of view, chemistry, opinion, culture, look, mannerisms and so on and just to stir that conflict and animosity within us so we are forced by it to deal with it. Its these obstacles that teach us the fastest and soon we as a humanity will rise to the point we can look at ourselves in the mirror, see exactly what we are, what we have become, what we have done and when we collectively look at our reflection and don't like what we see we will change it for the better and advance all together finally holding hands because the obstacles from the learning and growing of those clashes have taken us now to that point in our learning.

No one wants to see it for the truth that it is. The earth is a serial killer the same way, setting us up for obstacles, awe, shock, conflict, animosity, and she is relentless, just as the rest of this system plays out and we question are we racist!? Of course we are and to deny it means we have not grown. We deny ourselves the chance to work through it the longer we choose not to just say, okay fine its there I accept it. We are different. I've had anatomy and physiology and I've seen the body and how it works and I have compared the tendon placements of one race vs another and nose, lung, and various other differences between us. Recognize it, accept it and grow from it don't deny it by pretending its not there. Humanity will not grow beyond it in denial. Denial that you are prejudice is a lie to self and I really believe that. WE all were born with a bias period. God did it on purpose just like he made blood types clash.

In Japan certain blood types are not even allowed to work together or be in the same room. In some cases they are refused a marriage license because of the known clash these chemistry mixes cause. Documented by their culture and its just one study of many others in similar differences noted among people even of the same race! Denial gets us no where and the first step to recovery is simply recognizing yourself in the mirror.

Hervé
15th May 2014, 14:13
[...]

It seems ironic that Jews, who were treated especially badly in the WW2 period, seem to be so willing and able to pass on that bad treatment to Palestinians.

That's how quickly the line, if any, gets blurred:

It ain't the one who suffered in WW II that passed on that bad treatment but the ones who financed WW II and its horrors... to create a NEW state out of somewhere. It wasn't a piece of land in the middle of the Gobi or Sahara desert, nope!

yelik
15th May 2014, 15:28
Religion and politics are typically subject to a wide range of opinions based around an individual’s life and values which are unique. No matter whom you are or where you are from we all know that any action that purposely benefits mankind or society is good and any action that purposely harms mankind or society is bad.

In my opinion there is no reason why any subject area should not be discussed, sensibly, openly and honestly, providing we remermber the above universal values.

Operator
15th May 2014, 17:23
The confusion of the word 'Jew' starts IMHO with the difference in meaning referring to genetics and religion.
- If one decides to become a Jew you might be able to enter the religion but you can never become part of the genetic line.
- If one renounces Judaism it doesn't automatically remove ones lineage.
Very confusing to determine what is meant while using that word ...

Antisemitism is however used to include all possible meanings:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as a national, ethnic, religious or racial group.


On top of that there is further confusion by the word 'Israeli' (confirmed by the word national in Wikipedia ?).

Perhaps I will add more material later (when I have time) about why victimization of Jews is possibly supported
by an unexpected, non Jewish, faction.

aheb
15th May 2014, 19:42
I think there are lots of reasons for that, and it is not out and out hatred. I have questions about the holocaust, I don't entirely believe the historical version ( much like I don't believe 9/11 or 7/7).but many people would call me anti semitic for even saying that and in certain countries I could be imprisoned. Why are the Jews given such preferential treatment?? I can talk about the genocide in Rwanda and not be called a racist. and assuming that all those jews were killed that certainly doesn't give the Israeli military the right to shoot unarmed stone throwing teenagers. Imagine if they did that anywhere else. Why does the US give $6 billion every year to arm the Israelis , why are people in my country, the UK like Cameron and Osborn listed as " Friends of Israel".surely that shouldn't be allowed, what if they were "Friends of Russia".
Now having said that I think the term Jew covers a lot of ground there are Iranian Jews and many others who have no interest in Israel and though there are evil jewish bankers who would rob you blind, the ony peole who seem ready to fight them at their own game are Jews. Unfortunatly we tend to hear about the bad ones.

Rocky_Shorz
15th May 2014, 19:45
Photo of 2 teenagers Israel killed today in front of #Ofer prison. Left, Nadeem Nowara, on right Mohammad Abu Thaher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnseL7OCIAAihGn.jpg

I can't believe Palestine was only 97% sick of Israel's apartheid... :rant:

GuyFox
18th May 2014, 00:15
Why did the ADL launch this story... now?
They are reacting to the "we don't care" attitude, which is growing, as this article from VT shows:

Holocaust Card Wearing Thin In Face of Zionist War Crimes

A new poll taken by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reports that about 50% of people under the age of 35 are unaware of the Nazi crimes committed against their fellow Europeans commonly known as the Holocaust. (Read Full Report: ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Anti-Semitism)

Like so many other unspeakable crimes against humanity before and after, the European Holocaust committed by the Nazis was pure evil; plain and simple. Whether it was 6 million, 4 million or 1 million people who were murdered, it was horrific period! There is no debate about it! And it should be recognized as such, period!

However, it was not the only genocide committed against humanity in history. In fact, there have been many sick crimes committed by mentally ill humans with massive power in history both in antiquity and in modern history e.g.. Holdomar in Ukraine, Rwanda in Africa, the Armenian Genocide, the Native Americans in North America, the Circassian Genocide and much more……

Zionism Plays Cards Better Than Steve McQueen in Cincinnati Kid

The big difference is the way the Holocaust has been utilized by leading propagandists in the Zionist political movement. In fact, by far, the Holocaust is the most exploited genocide in history making the others seem relatively benign and inconsequential.

And so, for Zionists who’s ambition is Eretz Israel, playing the Holocaust Card has become predictable on American media to make sure “we never forget”...

> more: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/16/holocaust-card/

Rocky_Shorz
18th May 2014, 17:19
well they pushed too far on the Holocaust, so we fact checked to find why they were shoving it down our throats and found them to be filled with lies...

there is no stepping back once truths are uncovered...

GuyFox
28th May 2014, 22:15
Multi-culturalism is supported by people all over the world, especially Jewish people, right?

Not in Israel :

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Why is a practice that is "Good for Europe", and "Good for America"
not "Good for Israel" ??

Think about it

GuyFox
31st May 2014, 23:33
(An outspoken Jew writes about Jewish politics):

(Opponents) “are not driven primarily by anti-Jewish sentiment … (It is) A time for reflection"

Did the Jews Lose Europe?

By Gilad Atzmon

Following the surge of right wing parties in Europe’s Parliamentary election, Forward, the once-progressive Jewish outlet asks, “Have the Jews Lost Europe?” The tone of this question implies that until just a few days ago, at least some Jews believed that Europe was, in part, a ‘Jewish property.’ Such views were not baseless; Jewish Lobbies have dominated British and French policies by means of aggressive lobbying (CFI, LFI, CRIF etc’).

Following the European poll, Dave Rich, deputy director of the ultra Right Wing Jewish para-military Community Security Trust, is concerned. He detects a growing resentment of Jewish politics in Europe. His article in the Forward’s openly examines whether Jews have lost their grip on the European continent...

. . .

Rich quotes British commentator Paul Mason who contends that, “The Euro project was supposed to make sure the continent could never again go fascist. If European legislatures are now crawling with fascists, what was the point of that?”...

. .
Rich concludes by arguing that European Right Wing politics “are not driven primarily by anti-Jewish sentiment … And Europe’s Jews do not need our American friends to remind us where that can lead.” Rich is correct here, the surge in political awareness of the European underclass and impoverished middle class is not driven ‘primarily’ by anti Jewish feelings, however, increasingly, political commentators identify European malaise with Jewish and Zionist politics. The European new Left was badly beaten in last week polls due, in large part, to its Jerusalemite nature and affiliation. The new left in Europe is driven by kosher ideology, it is dominated by Jewish lobbies such as LFI (Britain) and CRIF (France) and if this is not enough, the entire progressive dissent discourse is closely identified with Jewish interests and is largely funded, directly and indirectly, by liberal Zionists such as George Soros and his Open Society Institutes.

Bearing all that in mind, the political shift in Europe carries a clear message to Jewish institutions. Now’s the time for immediate and deep reflection

==

> more: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/31/did-the-jews-lose-europe/

gnostic9
1st June 2014, 00:08
Hi Guyfox, isn't it about time we focused on those who are doing wrong, without using labels, such as fascists v jews, left v right. white v black or red or yellow or green or blue, i could go on and on, i am sick of the discourse of opposites. Is it not time to focus on who and how wrongs are created and the irresponsible individuals/organisations? Thank you for your post. Love peace and joy to all avalonians!

GuyFox
1st June 2014, 00:52
I don't "get" that comment.

My last post wasn't about labels.
Indeed, it was a prominent Jewish writer talking about the failed strategies of some Jewish groups.

Information and clarity needs spreading, at a time when Jews use labels like "anti-semitic" to silence their critics.

It is time to DISEMPOWER this weaponised word, don't you think? ... and examine realities with clarity.

THAT is what this thread is about