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Cidersomerset
19th May 2014, 22:49
RT will be criticised for publishing this and the mainstream will say its all conspiracy,
but its all what we talk about here.....



RT Says ALL U.S. Wars Start With False Flag Attacks Including What's Happening In Ukraine

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Published on 17 May 2014

May 17, 2014 Russia Today News http://MOXNews.com



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This is the conventional view how WW11 began, some disagree , but the 'false flag event' has caused most wars in the past.



Operation Himmler: Nazi's false flag to legitimize the invasion of Poland

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Published on 28 Feb 2013


Operation Himmler (less often known as Operation Konserve or Operation Canned
Goods) was a false flag project planned by Nazi Germany to create the appearance
of Polish aggression against Germany, which was subsequently used by Nazi
propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland. Operation Himmler was arguably the
first act of the Second World War in Europe.

The operations were mostly carried out on 31 August 1939. The operation - as well
as the main German offensive - was originally scheduled for 26 August; the shifting
diplomatic situation resulted in delay until 31 August/1 September - but one of the
German undercover units was not informed and carried out its attack on a German
customs post; several Germans were killed before the incident ended. The
operations were carried by agents of the SS and the SD. The German troops,
dressed in Polish uniforms, would storm various border buildings, scare the locals
with inaccurate shots, carry out acts of vandalism, and retreat, leaving behind dead
bodies in Polish uniforms. The bodies were in fact prisoners from concentration
camps; they were dressed in Polish uniforms, killed (often by a lethal injection of a
poison, then shot for appearance) and left behind. They were described
as "Konserve" i.e., canned goods, in planning documents (which also led to the
more informal name of the operation, Operation Konserve).

GuyFox
19th May 2014, 23:38
A powerful compilation of stories we may have seen elsewhere

RT is the only network that would have the courage to produce something like this.

The truth is pouring out, and the MSM is now in a purely "reactive mode:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71587-Finding-the-Truth-on-the-Missng-plane-Is-the-MSM-awake-now

Frank V
20th May 2014, 00:31
The war in Ukraine certainly did start with a false flag. The Russian troops at Crimea have arrested a Navy SEAL, and the Maidan snipers were witnessed to have been shooting at both sides.

Virtually every war of the past twenty years has been started by some false flag event, and it's always the same players behind them as well: the US American CIA, the British MI5/MI6 and the Israeli Mossad. Can you say "Anglo-Saxon Mission"? ;-)

GuyFox
20th May 2014, 01:54
WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT

- Is a part of this talk by Russ Baker, who wrote Family of Secrets (about the Bush family)

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Published on 26 Apr 2014
Talk by Russ Baker author of "Family of Secrets" and Founder and Editor-in-Chief of :
http://www.WhoWhatWhy.com
...given April 24, 2014 at the Common Good Cafe at University Temple United Methodist Church in Seattle, WA.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
20th May 2014, 02:32
Re: Aragorn:

when I read about the USS Liberty Incident, I realized,

God Damn I am Proud to be Registered Independent... :( lol
(no political affiliation)

snakes in the grass, and sea serpents too, heh!

I think one of the reasons some US people hate Russia is, some US people wanted Hitler to win... and Russia fought

GuyFox
20th May 2014, 02:52
Kevin Barrett's "take" on that video:

Excerpt:
Last September, the TruthSeeker episode 9/11 and Operation Gladio was going viral and heading for the tens or even hundreds of millions of views – when suddenly the NSA, or someone with similar capabilities, “disappeared” the show from search engines including the Youtube search engine that generates most views. When people tried to email the url of 9/11 and Operation Gladio to their friends, they found that their emails simply disappeared into the cyberspace equivalent of a black hole.

The result: 9/11 and Operation Gladio‘s progress towards going mega-viral was stopped in its tracks. This Orwellian cyber-takedown of the best big media show ever done on false flags is the topic of Library Sciences specialist Elizabeth Woodworth’s article “Search Engine Manipulation. Google and YouTube Suppress Controversial 9/11 Truth?”

Now Daniel Bushell and the Truthseeker team have just broadcast an even more hard-hitting, in-your-face false flag exposé!

YouTube - Veterans Today -
Is the Russian leadership getting fed up with NATO’s lies? Are they considering whether to expose evidence, such as satellite photos, proving 9/11 was an inside job? Might they demand a real investigation of 9/11 by the United Nations? Could they explain that far from being an anti-American move, this would be an attempt to help the American people get their country back?
If I were in Putin’s shoes I’d do it in a heartbeat.
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> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/19/truthseeker/

bogeyman
20th May 2014, 07:05
One thing I will say about RT, it is a one sided affair all governments are virtually doing the same dirty tricks, they all have economical, political agendas, and use the same techniques when it comes to intelligence work. All dominant powers have been disliked by those they dominant or are rivals throughout our known history.

Frank V
20th May 2014, 08:26
One thing I will say about RT, it is a one sided affair all governments are virtually doing the same dirty tricks, they all have economical, political agendas, and use the same techniques when it comes to intelligence work. All dominant powers have been disliked by those they dominant or are rivals throughout our known history.

Yes, but RT are the only ones exposing the West to the West, in the West. All other western mainstream media are just propaganda machines for the corporations, the US Democratic Party, the US Republican Party, or any combination thereof. And yes, that extends far beyond the borders of the USA. Our own Belgian journalists are essentially just parroting CNN and Fox News when it comes to international news.

In addition to that, a while ago, RT's Abby Martin (*) uttered her personal objections to Russia's military intervention in Crimea on her own show, and she was not reprimanded by RT for doing so. That says something about both Abby's journalistic integrity and RT's journalistic freedom.

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* That same Abby Martin who had her personal information page deleted from Wikipedia twice because "she wasn't interesting or popular enough". Read: she's wiping the floor with the corporations and the mainstream media in the West, and they don't like that.

GuyFox
20th May 2014, 09:26
"All other western mainstream media are just propaganda machines for the corporations, the US Democratic Party, the US Republican Party, or any combination thereof"

Yeah - and that includes the puppet-masters who pull the strings of the media and the politicians

RT is VERY refreshing, and on its Western reportage, provides an essential counterpoint to what you read in the "sinking spin rag" newspapers (like the NY Times and the WSJ) or what on the parrot television networks.

VIDEO : ALL THE SAME News everywhere
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bogeyman
20th May 2014, 10:40
One thing I will say about RT, it is a one sided affair all governments are virtually doing the same dirty tricks, they all have economical, political agendas, and use the same techniques when it comes to intelligence work. All dominant powers have been disliked by those they dominant or are rivals throughout our known history.

Yes, but RT are the only ones exposing the West to the West, in the West. All other western mainstream media are just propaganda machines for the corporations, the US Democratic Party, the US Republican Party, or any combination thereof. And yes, that extends far beyond the borders of the USA. Our own Belgian journalists are essentially just parroting CNN and Fox News when it comes to international news.

In addition to that, a while ago, RT's Abby Martin (*) uttered her personal objections to Russia's military intervention in Crimea on her own show, and she was not reprimanded by RT for doing so. That says something about both Abby's journalistic integrity and RT's journalistic freedom.

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* That same Abby Martin who had her personal information page deleted from Wikipedia twice because "she wasn't interesting or popular enough". Read: she's wiping the floor with the corporations and the mainstream media in the West, and they don't like that.

Then provide a western equivalent, exposing the East to the East to balance the view. Also selective reporting is also another tool on all sides. Everybody as a angle it seems or a motive balance view of what is really happening is very hard to come by.

Cidersomerset
20th May 2014, 11:00
As we know none of this is new and Monty Python satired it ......


Mindless Media 2 - News reporters caught reading the SAME SCRIPTS again

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Just now it is more dangerous with 'parrot' reporters just
reading the screen and even the editors seem to using
the same scripts........

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Cidersomerset
20th May 2014, 11:06
Anchorman - Teleprompter


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Network - Mad as Hell Scene ...1976

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ThePythonicCow
20th May 2014, 11:50
Then provide a western equivalent, exposing the East to the East to balance the view. Also selective reporting is also another tool on all sides. Everybody as a angle it seems or a motive balance view of what is really happening is very hard to come by.
The absence of a more honest Eastern alternative (that we happen to know about) does not negate the value of a Western alternative that provides some sorely missing honesty.

Eram
20th May 2014, 12:22
One thing I will say about RT, it is a one sided affair all governments are virtually doing the same dirty tricks, they all have economical, political agendas, and use the same techniques when it comes to intelligence work. All dominant powers have been disliked by those they dominant or are rivals throughout our known history.

I agree with you bogeyman,

As much as I'm glad with a channel like RT, I don't think for a minute that they are objective.
And as for false flag operations,.... this is a false flag operation done by the Russians and very likely with the consent of Putin that you will never see aired on RT:

An attempted bombing of a building, done by the Russian secret agents in order to blame it on the Chechens separatists exposed.
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Carmody
20th May 2014, 12:52
just yesterday, I made this comment in the 'Godzilla film' thread in the general forum area:




I used to see the liberal bias in Hollywood movies and it got me sick. Now that the Cold War is over, I wonder if there has there been a shift to furthering the interests of TPTB? Seems like it. Hollywood going from Soviet sympathizers to bedfellows with the NWO Eastern Establishment is a nice two step. Like the Nazis who became Stasi in East Germany after the war. Hmm. And I wonder if Dan Brown had any special inducements to write this particular piece of propaganda.


I thanked you for that post but really, there is no such thing is 'liberal bias'. There is an overall bias, period, as you seem to be moving to understanding. Systems of manipulation and division.

More than anything, there is a fascist bent to things, forms of creating division, so that consensus ...and thus action ...cannot erupt in a given group.

This methodology is as old as the hills.

But it really came 'on line' so to speak, during and after WWII, as the various governments instituted it in the middle of Europe (and the rest of the world), via professional level enterprise involving spook organizations or departments.

A good lesson in this is some of the various WWII espionage documentary shows and series, 'secret war' being one of them. (http://www.amazon.com/Secret-War/dp/B006Z4LOKK)

The beginning of the cold war was the beginning of the elevated erosion of any democratic systems that may have existed anywhere (even in the host countries), all due to the wartime collusion of governments and corporations. ie, fascist insanity and insider systems erupted in the extreme, at the same time the methods of hiding any of these connections went into overdrive.

These outfits, were so effective, so good at controlling and affecting populations, that the governments involved kept them and deployed them during peacetime and the 'cold war' against their 'enemies' and against the various countries they wanted to take over.

This system remained in place and as the corporate collusion of government continued, they begin to deploy them against their own populations, in order to maintain the systems that they had created. to expand said corporate and government collusion.

Ie fascism was enabled and aided, running under cover of such semi-hidden beasts of manipulation and power, such systems of overt parasitism.

Now these systems are so evolved, so interconnected, so proliferate, so ubiquitous, that most don't see the connections and methods anymore, they see them as part of society, as normal things.

Those of sociopathic and psychopathic nature are enabled, and then find themselves surrounded by like critters-- they forget themselves and think they can walk openly and act openly.

Thus, we find them exposing themselves more and more, as their methods and ways become more and more severe. More and more of this behavior is finding itself being the open normal state of society, yet it is most emphatically not 'normal'.

When that turn around comes, when that system is attacked by the overall population (for all the right reasons, mind you), the shift will very likely be brutal and sharp.

It will be the global near equivalent of the growing teenage boy nearly (or actually) beating his father to death in the kitchen, one day, for having hit his mother one time too many. The son breaks from the seemingly enforced norm of psychopathic behavior evidenced in the environment...they can take no more, and end the situation. Quickly, and sharply.

That is what we are driving toward. anyone can see it. Getting the public to understand the psychology that is going to be engaged in, that is the problem - in the same way it is near impossible to help the given family change their behavior. The minutiae of human dysfunction, but carried out at the global level.

These fascist and spook originated situations will get their comeuppance, and they are aware of it's impending inflection into the world stage, and what you see around you is an attempt to prevent it from happening. They know it so very well, as this is the pattern of individual and group human psychology they based their entire operations upon.


To be in the corporate club, or 'ownership and control club', it seems that ownership of a sports team, a major sports team ---is part of the requirements. Rich insider, check. Own sports team, check. Ok, you can get involved. Or that ownership is part of the act of showing fealty, so that one is showing how they obey the group rules and keep the proles distracted and turned away.

This is the most frightening map I've seen in a long time. It tells the sad tale of how illiterate and turned off the USA population has become, through these control/'inner directive' mechanisms that have been inserted into the US social and cultural systems. "Lets make perfect foot-soldiers and followers, an entire society of zipperheads with the lights turned off".... they said.

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To keep the proles distracted. This point was made clear in the film Gladiator, about how Commodus opened up the coliseum again, and brought back the bloodsport, so the people would be entertained, and thus ..controlled. Their energies spent in useless ways, controllable ways, no rebellion when their lives are full of the fakery and violence, the vicariously lived war and violence... of the coliseum.

At the same time they are kept at the ready, in a predominantly animal state of mind, with no potential for higher growth. Hooked on a habit of blood and violence porn, dumbing themselves down, day by day, into ...idiots hooked on violent interactive. That is sports, in a nutshell. You've been taken for a ride. Literally turned down/off intellectually--- into monkeys.



Gracchus: Fear and wonder, a powerful combination.

Falco: You really think people are going to be seduced by that?

Gracchus: I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it.


Back in the real world, the way it went down.. is democracy was stripped away with the false flag twist inserted into the Spartacus situation, and Rome went from being a representative republic to being a dictatorial bloodbath ---- for 400 years. Caligula, Nero, and so on.

In essence, This mess of the USA... could never have been pulled off, without the help of GMO foods and big pharma. Good solid supporting roles, there.

ThePythonicCow
20th May 2014, 12:58
The absence of a more honest Eastern alternative (that we happen to know about) does not negate the value of a Western alternative that provides some sorely missing honesty.



I agree with you bogeyman,

As much as I'm glad with a channel like RT, I don't think for a minute that they are objective.

Indeed :).

I have to keep reminding myself, that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

The truth is devious, and the most powerful are frequently the most brutal, and deceptive.

For that matter, I cannot verify the above "banned by Putin" video regarding "Operation Anti-terror Whirlwind" either :).

... on the other hand, RT is the closest thing to "main stream media" or high budget media that I routinely listen to ... for now anyway.

GuyFox
21st May 2014, 14:45
Gracchus: Fear and wonder, a powerful combination.

Falco: You really think people are going to be seduced by that?

Gracchus: I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it.
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Our Drone-loving President is more frightening than any of those Roman Senators

Nasu
21st May 2014, 16:54
Gracchus: Fear and wonder, a powerful combination.

Falco: You really think people are going to be seduced by that?

Gracchus: I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it.
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Our Drone-loving President is more frightening than any of those Roman Senators

A roman phrase, which sums up the title aptly, goes like this, when there's trouble in the senate, rattle the swords abroad... N

tnkayaker
21st May 2014, 17:17
this doesnt surprise me at all, think about the implications though, in pondering this information it occurs to me that every major incident may be/has been spear headed with some type of false flag event, school shootings, terurist attacks, bombings, etc, all for an agenda for someone to implement a new law or co-urse public sentiment in regards to present laws etc, think about how many events over the last 10 years may be tied to false flag or an insider spun/generated event, with the knowledge that the media is bought and paid for the only real truths i can depend on is here on Project Avalon and a few other sites dedicated to truth as opposed to what some consider as proper, proper being nothing more than popular opinion...or what is told to us to be the popular opinion, then when one peels back a layer of onion skin , one might find that popular opinion to be nothing more than one person(s) or small group of persons self deluded mind set, when pondering all this i simply go into prayer and meditation to get my balance back, then arrive at the truth with in as it presents itself to me from my higher source, life can be so confusing sometimes.....lol