Native peoples of the earth

[bogeyman]

All native peoples throughout the earth should unite and make your voices heard.

Many if not all of you know our native environment is being destroyed and our way of life is not sustainable.

Raise your voices together, unite, create the opportunity to meet all together to represent all tribes and clans and let the world hear your voices and share your experience from the elders to the very young. Tell people of what we are doing to the earth.

[Davidallany]

All native peoples throughout the earth should unite and make your voices heard.
Hi there. There are no infinite native people on Earth. Everybody comes from somewhere else. The so called natives of the Americas for example have migrated from Siberia and before that who knows from where. Apparently everyone comes from Africa though.

[Sidney]

I have tried. Nobody cares. :(

[Sunny-side-up]

No matter from where you originalaly come,feel for the Earth, raise your Vib's and take her with you, be a Native Person and leave the Scum behind!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Cherokee Pride, Shawnee Pride, Navajo Pride, etc etc etc!

:) never say die!

Oooh p.s. and my boy has Blackfoot I think?
or Dakota not sure -- the Dakota region --
grandma was pretty hooked in the native genome i think....

[Tyy1907]

No matter from where you originalaly come,feel for the Earth, raise your Vib's and take her with you, be a Native Person and leave the Scum behind!

I agree the point is we were born here. Heck what if as souls we agreed to be here. Maybe some of us felt obligated to come due to our strengths and skills.
Know it or not, like it or not- we're in this together. It always brings me back to the native americans. A seemingly primitive people, yet they understood their connection to the planet they were born on. I believe they knew a happiness that only comes from being in their hearts and knowing their connection to our sacred earth. Then what happened? The europeans came and basically took advantage of them, brought over some bling and kicked their asses. Done Conquered. Now they only have remnants of their old ways. Its their own fault as well. Anyway its like what we've let happen to us. Another reason why I think a certain ET disclosure would be pivotal- common knowledge to know that there are other ET humans on distant planets that are spiritually AND technologically advanced. That they are good stewards of their planets cause they get it. That a true heaven on earth can be.

[lunaflare]

Then what happened? The europeans came and basically took advantage of them, brought over some bling and kicked their asses. Done Conquered. Now they only have remnants of their old ways. Its their own fault as well. Anyway its like what we've let happen to us. Another reason why I think a certain ET disclosure would be pivotal- common knowledge to know that there are other ET humans on distant planets that are spiritually AND technologically advanced. That they are good stewards of their planets cause they get it. That a true heaven on earth can be.[/QUOTE]

Have to disagree with this deeply entrenched view-point. Not all Europeans are conquerors- evil deed doers- most white (Caucasian) folk are of Celtic lineage- wise folk who knew the wisdom and cycles expressed in the Earth\; Nature...folk who got wiped out with the advance of monotheistic religons.
Also, technological advancement does not necessarily guarantee the getting of wisdom and living sustain-ably on this planet either...
Agree with you heartily on the need for ET disclosure. we are all hybrids of varying degrees....looking for our true home

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hmmm oh I don't think Abel was to blame for Cain's crime... :(

How can it be the natives' fault that the whites wiped them out?

I seriously don't get that logic... and I'm mostly white... they way I see it?
They came over the strait to flee a civilization collapse, ice age, plague, or famine --
and they were rewarded for their exodus.

Our worst mistake as a country was how we treated these people.
They would have been a better resource alive.


The Rhode Island founder made sure he traded for land, never stealing from the natives...
It was a personal character flaw/failure of many whites that they fell on their knees to thank God when they got here,
and as soon as they got up, fell again onto the neck of the Native man...

Whites are invasive species in my hemisphere.
They started abusing each other in Europe, spread like a disease, and abused everyone else.

It's just a bigger version of the familial cycle of self hatred and abuse.

The japanese did it to china, we did it to the natives..

etc

jews n nazis etc

yah pretty sure blaming the victim is a ****ty thing to do.

just my 2c that no one wants. :P

[ulli]

Many of the Europeans who emigrated were either very religious Protestants, running away from persecution by the Catholic Church or they were violent criminals and got on a boat to avoid being caught by the police and get hanged.
So those two extremely opposite types expanded with the opportunities the New World offered them.
Now you have Mega Churches and organized crime.
And when you look at descendants of slavery culture it becomes much more complicated.
And whoever was there first has little chance to get internally organized, or get self esteem going, which is needed before they can function well in international communities.

[Tyy1907]

Hmmm oh I don't think Abel was to blame for Cain's crime... :(

How can it be the natives' fault that the whites wiped them out?

I seriously don't get that logic... and I'm mostly white... they way I see it?
They came over the strait to flee a civilization collapse, ice age, plague, or famine --
and they were rewarded for their exodus.

Our worst mistake as a country was how we treated these people.
They would have been a better resource alive.


The Rhode Island founder made sure he traded for land, never stealing from the natives...
It was a personal character flaw/failure of many whites that they fell on their knees to thank God when they got here,
and as soon as they got up, fell again onto the neck of the Native man...

Whites are invasive species in my hemisphere.
They started abusing each other in Europe, spread like a disease, and abused everyone else.

It's just a bigger version of the familial cycle of self hatred and abuse.

The japanese did it to china, we did it to the natives..

etc

jews n nazis etc

yah pretty sure blaming the victim is a ****ty thing to do.

just my 2c that no one wants. :P

I agree it wasn't their fault they got their asses kicked, etc. however there were prophecies that warned their people of the europeans. That if they gave into any of a certain number of things they would lose their land, their culture, etc. it was like if they signed treaties, if they took money, fire water, etc. I know, I have a hard time with this as well, as I mostly have the viewpoint of the nTives being taken advantage of. RegSrdless if you agree or not, we r kind of in this same boat I feel. I've had a few bad omens lately that are beyond synchronicity, they're related to full out war happening.

[donk]

There’s a lot of stories we tell ourselves, mostly involving generalized groups of people. In these stories, somehow groups make decisions and are assigned responsibility for actions and events involving individuals. Maybe they are helpful. But maybe we should start telling stories in different ways.

I imagine it like this. There were millions of people here, mostly living in harmony with their environment, making life based decisions, where the only fear that existed were real life survival ones, like any mammal has to deal with. As humans, the natives were equipped to not only survive, they were the top of food chain. Somehow the knowledge was passed down thousands of years that with this great power came great responsibility. For centuries, the inclusive, communal, efficient, seemingly simpler way of life proved to be best ways for their microcosm

Unfortunately, whether you want to label it “fault” or not, they were ignorant of the broader reality outside of their immediate reach. Never could these folks imagine a creature from farther away than they can go, having such a horrible disease. The disease is the toxic mindset that is “civilization”. Religion and ownership and money and desire for power and all the components—beyond the realm of their comprehension.

Prophecy or not, no one could ever anticipated this horrid, self destructive viral manifestation of reality—and that it came in a human package, well that made the possibility of adjustment and adaptation damn near impossible, to my mind anyway. And those that did adapt mentally still didn’t have a chance on the physical plane, thanks to the “alien” technology (again—who could imagine beings using knowledge to make armies and biological weapons and prisons and such). I like to believe it didn’t occur to them to live in a reality of lies, that they valued “truth” about their existence and so couldn’t make heads of tails of the whole concepts of “ownership” and “conquering”. Who could imagine that a human being could be programmed to believe that white people “discovered” this completely inhabited land, let alone imagine they’d be desire to murder every tribe and individual that got in the way.

From the posts I am reading, we still mostly live within the boundaries of the lies created for us. We have a hard time truly seeing outside of the box. We believe that it is the nature of human beings to sometimes hurt each other, to act in suicidal ways. We accept this as defect, and act powerless to change, it’s “human nature”, after all—right?

Not in my mind. I call bullsh!t. I know in my heart this is the big lie. The cracks in the lies are really starting to show. Now we need to come up with a transitional way of living. I don’t believe it has to be collapse of civilization, and back to the stone age. If we can somehow infect the common consciousness in the way the viral psycopathy-based civilization parasite did…which makes me want to digress:

Psychopathy is the problem. Civilization is the manifestation of psychopathy on a grand scale. It requires all the cr@p we rail against, politics/money/celebrity/etc, those are the tools, all just bad ideas that are the parts the make up the sum that is civilization. The most insidious part of it, the self-perpetuation of it, is that we are programmed to believe that these SYMPTOMS are the problem.

So back to my thought: if we can set into the human consciousness a better idea, a loving mindset—in the place where psychopathy has infected, then the pus, these symptoms will proabaly take care of themselves, while whatever it is (maybe a “heaven on earth” type scenario) will manifest in place of the civilization. Life won’t be a problem to solve, a ladder to climb, a goal to achieve by competing for it…it would be an experience to share.

I’ll keep trying to refine the story I see, that I want to create. I definitely won’t stop pointing out the lies, the flaws in arguments, the self destructive programming. And I will continue to look for more creative ways of implementing my vision. You may say, that I’m dreamer…hope I’m not the only one…

[donk]

So in my story, I demonstrate basically ulli said brilliantly elsewhere:


Lasting security can only be found gradually, in the process of inner transformation,
and in the discovery that I AM (always) and WE ARE (always).

And even if this is grasped intellectually it is not enough. There has to be a real knowing,
one that stems from a deeper understanding than just what we have read in a forum post, or what others have told us.

Maybe that’s what the organism that was the North American native tribe entity (and the biosphere it occupied) had, what they were living on?

Which begs the question to the “new agers” or those who believe they manifest their own reality, we are responsible for everything—so aren’t those injun’s responsible for the genocide they experienced? Or is that another toxic idea implanted by the mind-virus psychopathy?

If we are to suppose that founding thought of many people’s (and Western interpretation of Eastern beliefs, from what I can tell) beliefs is true, then on a subconscious level they imagined COMLETLELY ALIEN conquerers disguised as beings that looked like them. Is that the “prophecies” others have mentioned? Are the prophecies the cause of the events, according to the “you are responsible for everything in your reality” mentality?

Are the prophecies based on some phenomenon that the natives were experiencing locally, BEFORE whitey got here? Is that telling of what’s to come of us?

Prophecy, given by a shaman, back in the days when tribes could be indigenous—how was that received? Like a clown with a Ouija board channeling some entity now? Did everyone in the tribes taking it seriously—is that what “caused” the manifestation of the reality of the prophecy?

[Krist]

If you are Human here are you not native to earth?
So many things to separate us.Starting with various levels of speech and communication.
Some of the words that come out of my finger tips probably make little sense to most and resonate well with others.With other varying degrees make a struggle for natives / humans to convey info back and forth to one another.Natives of different lands are in some kind competition set up to continue the separation.Maybe this earth can't be changed,us natives could be here on our vision quest to figure it out.Not to discredit the individual history of any and all natives.Native I am ,of earth.I have had my ass kicked most of this lifetime.

[ghostrider]

live it first , it will speak louder than any words ... then let awake minds inquire , why do you do that ??? because Earth is in trouble , trouble caused by our way of life ...

[Milneman]

Hmmm oh I don't think Abel was to blame for Cain's crime... :(

How can it be the natives' fault that the whites wiped them out?

I seriously don't get that logic... and I'm mostly white... they way I see it?
They came over the strait to flee a civilization collapse, ice age, plague, or famine --
and they were rewarded for their exodus.

Our worst mistake as a country was how we treated these people.
They would have been a better resource alive.


The Rhode Island founder made sure he traded for land, never stealing from the natives...
It was a personal character flaw/failure of many whites that they fell on their knees to thank God when they got here,
and as soon as they got up, fell again onto the neck of the Native man...

Whites are invasive species in my hemisphere.
They started abusing each other in Europe, spread like a disease, and abused everyone else.

It's just a bigger version of the familial cycle of self hatred and abuse.

The japanese did it to china, we did it to the natives..

etc

jews n nazis etc

yah pretty sure blaming the victim is a ****ty thing to do.

just my 2c that no one wants. :P

I agree it wasn't their fault they got their asses kicked, etc. however there were prophecies that warned their people of the europeans. That if they gave into any of a certain number of things they would lose their land, their culture, etc. it was like if they signed treaties, if they took money, fire water, etc. I know, I have a hard time with this as well, as I mostly have the viewpoint of the nTives being taken advantage of. RegSrdless if you agree or not, we r kind of in this same boat I feel. I've had a few bad omens lately that are beyond synchronicity, they're related to full out war happening.

And, you're forgetting the Treaty 4 Prophesy.

When Treaty Four was signed out at Fort Qu'Appelle, there was a large fast conducted. Many elders went into the hills, and this was the vision they came back with (as taught to me by my Metis/Lakota teacher).

Seven generations will see unbridled pain, suffering, and agony.

The Seventh Generation will be the generation which returns with the memory and culture they once lost.

(and this is the bit most people don't get to hear, or just ignore)

Those who were the oppressors will become in part the teachers that help the Seventh Generation return to the fullness of what they were before all of this happened.

AKA: It takes the residents of this planet, who are ALL indigenous to this planet, to make things right for this planet.

I think we're about 6.5 billion behind though. I could be mistaken, it could be more. ;)