There's No News on "The News" : What are the Real Issues?

[GuyFox]

There's No News on "The News" : Time to switch off?

/ HERE we can:
Talk about the Real Issues, the big ones ignored by the MSM
... and Let's AIM to weave these into an ongoing discussion /

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Look how one of the Biggest stories of the year was reported
- er, ah, was NOT reported in the US media

NEWS picked up: 24 May 2014 -

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-needs-the-united-states-not-russia-and-china

= QUOTE =
Who Needs The United States? Not Russia And China

Russia and China have just signed what is being called "the gas deal of the century", and the two countries are discussing moving away from the U.S. dollar and using their own currencies to trade with one another. This has huge implications for the future of the U.S. economy, but the mainstream media in the United States is being strangely quiet about all of this. For example, I searched CNN's website to see if I could find something about this gas deal between Russia and China and I did not find anything. But I did find links to "top stories" entitled "Celebs who went faux red" and "Adorable kid tugs on Obama's ear". Is it any wonder why the mainstream media is dying? If a particular story does not fit their agenda, they will simply ignore it....

= UNQUOTE =

"top stories" entitled "Celebs who went faux red" and "Adorable kid tugs on Obama's ear".

I find it disgusting !
It is so patronizing of the Fourth Estate to come forward with this crap instead of actual news.
They think All Americans are dumbed down children.
No this one - I am cancelling US newspapers in my clubhouse here,
and replacing them with real news : No WSJ > Now FT !

So I just repeat again and again:
IF IT TURNS YOU OFF, TURN IT OFF !

And hope that the profits and revenues of these useless media companies will keep falling.

They have a REAL job to do... and are not doing it !

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STEPS TO TAKE:
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+ Don't buy magazines or newspapers full of Spin, or reporting the activities of Celebrities

+ Don't watch MSM news shows on TV, shopping porn, or Hollywood news
(and if you do, make note of products advertised, so you can know what NOT to buy)

+ Avoid websites with too many links to Celebrity porn

+ Tell your friends you are tired of "idle gossip", and organise gatherings to discuss the REAL NEWS,
and the issues of the day

+ Join a Salon - preferably one that meets face-to-face, but otherwise online

[Bob]

It may be no surprise to many of the group's members, but I have been seeing more and more lead MSM reporters turning to Avalon to get the "real news", the voice of the People. :)

Keeping our quality of good signal, less noise really helps - Very Well Done Avalon !

Bob

[GuyFox]

Yes. I agree, Bob.

That is one of the main reasons that I am here !

Please note:
I haven't finished with the OP yet.
I will soon add some STEPS that people can take - (DONE!!)
And I would be very happy to hear any suggestions for additional steps you might want to add

[Carmody]

It may be no surprise to many of the group's members, but I have been seeing more and more lead MSM reporters turning to Avalon to get the "real news", the voice of the People. :)

Keeping our quality of good signal, less noise really helps - Very Well Done Avalon !

Bob

Since I do not watch television or deal with MSM at all, I would never know this. All the more reason to be very careful in perfection of step and walk.

[Bob]

It may be no surprise to many of the group's members, but I have been seeing more and more lead MSM reporters turning to Avalon to get the "real news", the voice of the People. :)

Keeping our quality of good signal, less noise really helps - Very Well Done Avalon !

Bob

Since I do not watch television or deal with MSM at all, I would never know this. All the more reason to be very careful in perfection of step and walk.

There are a lot of satellite networks that I review (special Ku band point-able satellite system that reaches various international satellites) for accessing feeds and networks across the planet, everything that I can see with my current view. These select folks who are reaching, turn to people reporting the best data, for the inside scoop; problem is, they have to get it past their "minders" (read censors) or in otherwise called "editing staff", to keep such politically correct with the network. On occasion, a breath of fresh air happens, and they report from the heart.. :) bless you MSM who care. It seems to me, keeping the best, most accurate important data for them to see, provides the opportunity to share with all why it is good to change for the better..

[ghostrider]

One of the reasons I'm here as well , news you just can't get anywhere else , and the learning process , the sharing process , and the freedom to think differently without being hauled off to the mental hospital ... Avalon , a global library of alternative news ... a beautiful starship traveling in space going where no mind has gone before , our on going mission , to seek out , and always be on a voyage of exploring possibilities ... can I get a booyah ...

[GuyFox]

Actually, I live in Asia. Mostly in Hong Kong.

The MSM here is less "toxic" than in the US from what I have seen.
But there are some ways I can switch off.
The Clubhouse of my property, where I read newspapers and magazines,
carries The Wall Street Journal, as well as the local papers.

I have suggested that they cancel the subscription.
So when the billing cycle runs out in a few weeks, they will switch to the FT / The Financial Times.

I am also looking for an alternative to TIME Magazine. The Economist maybe?

All over the world, I think people are switching off US influence.
The country has been arrogant, and over-stepped in its aim to project its power.
The whole Neocon agenda ("An American Century") was wrong headed from the time it was conceived.
(And also heavily influenced by Zionists. "Real" Americans need to start taking back power from these cockroaches.)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I acknowledge the news can be depressing but we are here to fight the good fight as well as grow (at least I am) ^_^

[Matt P]

The "mainstream" media is NOT strangely quiet about the gas deal between Russia and China. They are naturally and normally quiet about it, exactly as planned.
I long ago left my interest and expectation of the "mainstream" "news" behind. I don't flip through it looking for something real. Why? Why look for needles in haystacks when one can just go to where needles are sold ("alternative" news)?
Occasionally when I am in a client's house and they have the "news" on the tv, I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous it sounds. All of "mainstream" media, whether there is some truth in there or not, is meant to support and expand the fake reality control matrix. Even "good" stories are framed in this context so there is no value to it whatsoever.

Matt

[jake gittes]

I ended my subscription with Directv 6 weeks ago or so and don't miss it a beat. It's a huge waste of time, money and energy. I traveled this weekend and turned on the TV in the hotel room and found myself endlessly flipping around. The programming was all GARBAGE and FAKE. Of course the "news" is fake -- probably the phoniest garbage aired. I ended up settling on live sports, which has fewer commercials and is the most "real" although with performance enhancing drugs, even that authenticity has been called into question. Sports is also becoming more and more of a platform for the "gay agenda" and free speech-killing agenda, with the manufactured "stories" of racism and discrimination, which is the JWO's slippery slope to political correctness. I highly recommend ending your satellite/cable subscription and returning to Life. It is working for me.

[GuyFox]

Hurrah !
These small acts, of Turning Off the MSM Media, and denying them their revenues are important.

It is happening across America, and around the globe. And the media is beginning to notice, and seems to be headed towards "panic mode." It is possible, that at some point a brave-and-desperate MSM media outlet will break ranks, leave the Spin mode. That will be the stage when they realise there is more money to be earned by TELLING THE TRUTH, and being different.

Think back, we were warned that we were headed towards this situation years ago.

Remember these scenes?:

(1) : "I'm mad as Hell. I'm not going to take it anymore!"

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(2) : "There is only One holistic system of systems ... " (the NWO)

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The time has come to opt out, switch them off, and deny these monsters access to you wallet !

[gripreaper]

Look how one of the Biggest stories of the year was reported- er, ah, was NOT reported in the US media


Russia and China have just signed what is being called "the gas deal of the century", and the two countries are discussing moving away from the U.S. dollar and using their own currencies to trade with one another.

Well, I think the more appropriate variable is discernment, the ability to think critically. Even if you shut off the mainstream media, this does not give you critical thinking skills, and remember, the internet is FULL of disinfo, almost worse than mainstream media. Let me illustrate:

The notion that Russia and China are moving away from the petrodollar and are going to trade amongst themselves, thus shunning the United States and the dollar, as being the biggest unreported story which has immense implications....

First off, as a critical thinker, I would tear this totally apart. It's NOT the United States petrodollar. It's the globalists oligarchs, who are psychopaths, who control the petrodollar with the global exchange system, which includes the IMF and Bureau of International settlements. All currencies are indexed to the dollar and run through the global clearing system. Some would say, this system is backed by bonds for lines of credit, backed by gold and other commodities beside oil.

So, although Russia and China have fairly decent size economies, the United States is the largest world economy, and is larger than the next six countries combined, which includes Russia and China. The US also has the largest and most well funded global military force on the planet, complete with all of the latest stealth technology used for weaponry. This force can annihilate anything, anywhere, and vaporize it in an instant. The globalists who control the dollar also control this imperialistic bully force. The oligarchs also control all of the means of production worldwide, held by global corporations tied together by their directors. They also control all governments.

The dollar is also a fiat debt system, one you don't just "walk away" from, considering you still OWE massive amounts of interest and principal to this system. All countries, governments, peoples, and corporations are indentured to this fiat system. All energy, all wealth on the planet, is pledged to this system, in perpetuity, as collateral.

So, although it is a nice idea to move away from this system, to create alliances such as the BRIC's, to go rogue and trade outside this system, until we see a major default, a major coup of this alliance to refuse to pay into this system, and we see Bush Sr, Brzezinski, and their ilk, being arrested on national TV for crimes against humanity and charged with fraud, then I would say this story is not the biggest unreported story with huge implications.

It could just be a story which creates more divisiveness amongst nations, to foment and agitate, to justify more imperialism and war, more draconian measures of control, and the entrainment of globalist memes in the consciousness of the overall populations of the world, as a ruse to keep them under control.

So, while mainstream media has no news worth reporting, so does the alt media a lot of the time. Discernment is key.

[ThePythonicCow]

The notion that:


Russia and China are moving away from the petrodollar and are going to trade amongst themselves, thus shunning the United States and the dollar, as being the biggest unreported story which has immense implications....

First off, as a critical thinker, I would tear this totally apart. ...
My critical thinking is critical of your critical thinking :).

The so called United States dollar is issued by the United States. Just because in some very real sense, the United States is controlled by some oligarchs doesn't make it totally bogus to label that currency "United States". Heck, it even says "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" (our ALL-CAPS corporate name that we acquired after our Civil War) right on it, so that is a reasonable way to refer to it.

The single most critical internationally traded commodity for the last half century has been petroleum products, and the single most essential "sink" (need to acquire US Dollars) has been the need to pay for petroleum products in US Dollars (a need enforced, of course, by the dominant US military.)

There are other reasons for the dominance of the US Dollar since the 1944 agreement in Bretton Woods, such as the US holding the dominant proportion of world central bank gold for a while following 1944, and
such as the US Military bombing the crap out of any nation that starts to thumb its nose at the US Dollar (well, up until now, with China and Russia starting to do so),but the trade of US Dollars for oil has been the largest commodity trade pillar of the Dollar.

Yes there are other aspects to this, such as US Dollars being issued in turn for debt, rather than one of the other forms of monetary issuance, but calling it a petro-dollar is a reasonable and familiar term.

The US is not larger economically than the next six nations. From IMF 2013 data (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29), the largest three nations outside of the US are China, Japan and Germany, with a combined annual GDP in 2013 of $17.7, exceeding the $17.3 GDP of the US.

Some nations, such as China and Japan, do not owe massive amounts of money to this system. Rather the system owes them massive amounts.

I don't see anyone claiming that any major party just "walks away" from this monetary system. Rather I see much work has been ongoing, for quite a while now, and continuing, to develop alternatives. It's not easy and it's not simple.

Whether or not Bush Sr, Brzezinski, and their ilk get arrested is (unfortunately) a trivial detail in this transition, rather than a necessary and major step. Of course, if they aren't brought to justice, then that will be a good clue that the follow on system is just as corrupt, and likely just as controlled by some oligarchical bastards in power, but that doesn't rule out going from using the US petro-dollar as the reserve currency of the world monetary system, to structuring the dominant world monetary system on some other (equally or even more corrupt) basis.

Whether or not the change in the world monetary system which we are currently undergoing is or is not the biggest unreported story is of course subject to debate. But in my view, it is certainly one of the biggest stories, and claiming otherwise requires a far more sound and thorough argument than I've seen so far.

I suspect, gripreaper, that you are conflating your insight into certain essential aspects of this situation with a mandate to deny the equally essential and valid aspects that others observe. What you observe is not the only truth, to the exclusion of all else holding similar claims to importance.

[gripreaper]

The notion that:


Russia and China are moving away from the petrodollar and are going to trade amongst themselves, thus shunning the United States and the dollar, as being the biggest unreported story which has immense implications....

First off, as a critical thinker, I would tear this totally apart. ...
My critical thinking is critical of your critical thinking :).

The so called United States dollar is issued by the United States. Just because in some very real sense, the United States is controlled by some oligarchs doesn't make it totally bogus to label that currency "United States". Heck, it even says "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" (our ALL-CAPS corporate name that we acquired after our Civil War) right on it, so that is a reasonable way to refer to it.

The dollar is issued by the Federal Reserve, a privately held cartel of globalists. The United States has not issued its own currency since the printing of money was abrogated by congress in 1913, which at the time was already a corporation in bankruptcy since 1871.


The single most critical internationally traded commodity for the last half century has been petroleum products, and the single most essential "sink" (need to acquire US Dollars) has been the need to pay for petroleum products in US Dollars (a need enforced, of course, by the dominant US military.)

This is not in dispute. I said almost the same thing in my post.


There are other reasons for the dominance of the US Dollar since the 1944 agreement in Bretton Woods, such as the US holding the dominant proportion of world central bank gold for a while following 1944, and
such as the US Military bombing the crap out of any nation that starts to thumb its nose at the US Dollar (well, up until now, with China and Russia starting to do so),but the trade of US Dollars for oil has been the largest commodity trade pillar of the Dollar.

Not in disagreement here either and made no such reference against this point.


Yes there are other aspects to this, such as US Dollars being issued in turn for debt, rather than one of the other forms of monetary issuance, but calling it a petro-dollar is a reasonable and familiar term.

ALL dollars are issued as debt, and a consumable commodity, such as oil, being used to index it's value, is fallacious at best and downright criminal at worst. Just because all nations are required to use the petrodollar to trade for oil does not give the dollar its global status. The FACT that it is a fiat based currency and deteriorates as it moves through commerce, and can never be repaid, while it consumes all of the wealth of the planet, is the larger context


The US is not larger economically than the next six nations. From IMF 2013 data (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29), the largest three nations outside of the US are China, Japan and Germany, with a combined annual GDP in 2013 of $17.7, exceeding the $17.3 GDP of the US.

Well I''ll be darned, I stand corrected. The economic power is shifting and the US is no longer larger than the next six economies combined, although it used to be. Maybe there is some truth to the BRIC's gaining power against the US, yet this does not negate the larger context in regards to the globalists and the global control through global corporations and global mercenary imperialism.

Some nations, such as China and Japan, do not owe massive amounts of money to this system. Rather the system owes them massive amounts.

Uh, the UNITED STATES corporation issues Treasury bonds and sells them on the global market, and yes, China and Japan buy these bonds and receive payments against those bonds from the UNITED STATES Treasury, yet this is not the same thing as a global clearing of dollars against other currencies by the IMF or Bureau of International Settlements. On the world economic stage, China and Japan are in massive debt to the globalists, and Japan is so "on the ropes" they are the most likely economy to implode in the near future. China is extremely over-leveraged and have overbuilt their infrastructure and are headed the same way. So, lets not confuse nationalism with globalism.


I don't see anyone claiming that any major party just "walks away" from this monetary system. Rather I see much work has been ongoing, for quite a while now, and continuing, to develop alternatives. It's not easy and it's not simple.

Well, all this talk about the BRIC's alliance and China and Russia making trade agreements outside the current globalist structure, as if they are somehow not intricately tied to the current system through debt, as if these moves are going to unseat the current structure, which is imbedded in every single institution on the planet and tied to the globalist, has been discussed "ad nauseam" and, as far as I can tell, shows no sign of unseating the current structure or putting a single dent in it, in my opinion.


Whether or not Bush Sr, Brzezinski, and their ilk get arrested is (unfortunately) a trivial detail in this transition, rather than a necessary and major step. Of course, if they aren't brought to justice, then that will be a good clue that the follow on system is just as corrupt, and likely just as controlled by some oligarchical bastards in power, but that doesn't rule out going from using the US petro-dollar as the reserve currency of the world monetary system, to structuring the dominant world monetary system on some other (equally or even more corrupt) basis.

What transition? How is China and Russia attempting to trade outside the dollar petrosystem considered a "transition"? The jury is still out on this and I see no signs of any major shift from the present system having the legs to unseat the current system. As you said, China holds so much US debt based currency, is it really in their interest to see the dollar collapse? On the contrary, would it not make more sense to defend the dollar, at least until they no longer hold so much of it?


Whether or not the change in the world monetary system which we are currently undergoing is or is not the biggest unreported story is of course subject to debate. But in my view, it is certainly one of the biggest stories, and claiming otherwise requires a far more sound and thorough argument than I've seen so far.

Change in the monetary system? What change? Going from a paper based currency to a completely centrally controlled digital system, then yes, there is a transition, yet the globalist controllers are still in control of this system and Russia and China are most likely pawns, or playing along, and the divisiveness memes which claim these countries are moving away from this system have the potential to foment more imperialism and control, not the other way around.


I suspect, gripreaper, that you are conflating your insight into certain essential aspects of this situation with a mandate to deny the equally essential and valid aspects that others observe. What you observe is not the only truth, to the exclusion of all else holding similar claims to importance.

Your suspicions are unfounded and there is NO mandate to see things my way, or to place more validity on my point of view over others, or to look at certain aspects more than others in the canvas of ideas, or to conflate ideas to create obfuscations which would lead others to adopt certain contexts or points of view. You are free to think whatever you wish Paul, and if you feel the need to defend other posters by marginalizing me, than that is fine too. I can take it. I am not gorilla marketing anything here.

I'm not disagreeing with Guy Fox, who can speak for himself, in regards to the opening post of this thread and the irrelevance of the mainstream media. I'm just cautioning the use of "The biggest story" tag lines and the movement to alt media as a clean source of information, which purports to claim that there is this huge "transition", as you call it, away from the dollar. Yes, it is an aspect of the news, and you may feel it is one of the biggest stories, but some gold moving to the eastern block, and some trade agreements outside the petrodollar exchange system, do not make it so.

That is conjecture, and until we see more evidence of the criminal cabal, who runs the dollar fiat debt based ponzi scheme, losing control and being run off the planet back to where they came from, I would say, via my own conjecture, that they are just fine and not in the least bit worried about their system falling apart or overtaken by others. Why should they be? If you owned all the means of production, the largest mercenary force on the planet, had your own underground economy not tied to the current dollar system, your own technology 1000 years ahead of the mainstream, off planet bases, underground bases, and can pulverize anything or anyone at will, would you be worried? I think not.

Unless of course the benevolent aliens come and take them out. Maybe you fall into this camp? Discernment Paul, discernment.

[ThePythonicCow]

What transition? How is China and Russia attempting to trade outside the dollar petrosystem considered a "transition"? The jury is still out on this and I see no signs of any major shift from the present system having the legs to unseat the current system. As you said, China holds so much US debt based currency, is it really in their interest to see the dollar collapse? On the contrary, would it not make more sense to defend the dollar, at least until they no longer hold so much of it?
It seems that we agree on what we agree, and know on what we disagree. I doubt that others will be interested in a detailed rebuttal from me, so I'll skip that.

Just a few points.

Yes, we totally agree that the US Dollar is debt-issued money. New money is created in exchange for debt paper that places liens on future income streams and on real property and resources. However, at the same time, the plumbing of the monetary system requires sources and sinks, which create demand for money, and uses for money. Such sources and sinks, if sufficiently essential, compel everyone to seek a currency, and enable everyone to make use of it. Debt and taxes are one such essential use; people, corporations and governments require money to pay debt and taxes. Energy purchases, which are predominantly petro-based, are another such major "money pump".

I remain convinced that a major transition in the world monetary system is occurring, similar to the transition from the British Pound Sterling to the US Dollar as the dominant currency, a century or so ago. I am confident that this will become obvious to all, in the course of time.

My use of the word mandate was ambiguous. I did not mean that I thought you were imposing a mandate on others; you're right to object to that implication. I meant that I thought you were imposing such a mandate on your own thinking. For example, it seemed that you were thinking that if a currency is debt issued by a private corporation, then it cannot also reasonably be labeled US petro-dollars.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Things you won't hear on headline news, after years of squawking all of their talking heads have gone suspiciously quiet....

GOP is attempting several methods of electroshock on tea party members to bring them back into the party before the next election...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bob4tw-CUAAR4wn.jpg

between Benghazi and Birther spins, many of their minds have been lost in space...

Koch programming is tough to break...

[gripreaper]

For example, it seemed that you were thinking that if a currency is debt issued by a private corporation, then it cannot also reasonably be labeled US petro-dollars.

The distinction I'm making, is that there are actually two sets of books. One set is based on tangible assets and the other is not indexed to anything at all which can be purported to be tangible, but is only based on usury and the extraction of resources, including the energy of all sentient beings on the planet.

The Nation/ states, after WW11, exchanged their tangible assets, such as gold, for bonds, which gave them a line of credit with the Federal Reserve, towards debt based currency, which of course, were used as a means of exchange, as well as for capital improvements and oil purchases. The usury attached to this system is what eventually destroyed the nexus between the two sets of books.

The fact that these nation/states are waking up to the fact that this system is one of extraction, and that the actual wealth and tangibles are being held by the globalist elite, is not in dispute. Why they exchanged their tangibles for bonds which became worthless is beyond me. I suspect it had to do with how the world map shifted after WW11 and war reparations, and the theft of this wealth by certain nations, and the debts incurred as a result of the war. All political moves for control and centralization of power and assets I presume.

How they intend to reverse the ponzi while holding worthless dollars not backed by tangibles is not clear to me, although some nations are attempting to exchange these worthless notes for massive amounts of gold and other natural resources, as well as land etc, it remains to be seen if they can amass enough power to form a system to go up against the dollar. Oil is not really tangible, but is a consumable. That is another major distinction.

So, although economies need a medium of exchange in order to operate in global commerce, and the amount of money in circulation coupled with the speed of it's movements, determines the value in a debt based system, provided there is enough to also pay the usury, then things appear hunky dorey. What the globalists are attempting to do with this system, while maintaining their own set of books holding the tangibles, is to choke down the supply of these debt notes in order to consolidate more energy and tangibles under their control.

They did it to the US during the great depression, shrinking the money supply so massively, that our nation was willing to hypotecate and pledge our very souls, all of our energy in perpetuity, for a line of credit in worthless debt based fiat currency. Some New Deal, eh? Other nations have followed the same path and are also in debt beyond any way to repay. That is not the idea, to be able to repay. The idea is full extraction of human energy and resources and centralization of power.

Do Russia and China have enough tangible assets which they have not pledged, and can build a system outside the dollar to go up against the strength of the dollar, when it is tied to oil so tightly? I'd be very careful with that. If the global economy collapses due to such shenanigans and there is any disruption in global commerce, it's not going to be pretty. The globalists, who now hold title to most of the tangible assets, could care less.

[GuyFox]

Wow !
What excellent posts have come onto this thread while I was sleeping !
I will respond to them later - but in the meantime have ADDED this to the OP:

/ HERE we can: Talk about the Real Issues, the big ones ignored by the MSM /

Paul,
Can you still change the TITLE of this thread, as follows:
"There's No News on "The News" : What are the Real Issues?"

Thanks

[ThePythonicCow]

The fact that these nation/states are waking up to the fact that this system is one of extraction, and that the actual wealth and tangibles are being held by the globalist elite, is not in dispute.


If the global economy collapses due to such shenanigans and there is any disruption in global commerce, it's not going to be pretty.


The globalists, who now hold title to most of the tangible assets, could care less.

Yes, yes, and yes.

[Rocky_Shorz]

after yesterday's shooting in Santa Barbara near "Nixon's Ranch"...

Grief and shock in #Belgium after three people were shot dead at #JewishMuseum


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvpNAdcaHg4


I was going to say a Jewish shooting that isn't headline news? but then I realized they might not be Jewish, just tourist...

I didn't think ADLs lost support of network news...

[GuyFox]

Hey, Rocky - Let's try to relate that (new item) to the very interesting discussion already underway.

Or at least:
Explain WHY you think it is important, and NOT being covered by the MSM.
Else, it should just get a thread of its own.

Thanks

[GuyFox]

The fact that these nation/states are waking up to the fact that this system is one of extraction, and that the actual wealth and tangibles are being held by the globalist elite, is not in dispute.


If the global economy collapses due to such shenanigans and there is any disruption in global commerce, it's not going to be pretty.


The globalists, who now hold title to most of the tangible assets, could care less.

Yes, yes, and yes.

In the US and most of the West, we do not have the concept of a National Patrimony,
perhaps because we have worked so hard to grab the patrimony from other countries.
When that slowed down, the elites have moved to Resource grabbing, and Rent-seeking within
the US and other countries.

In effect, they have CHANGED THE RULES so that they can grab a bigger piece of the pie. And THAT very behavior causes the pie to shrink.

Various academics (Stigletz, Pikkety) are now "onto" the game, and how long will it be before a populist politician arises and begins to discuss this?

The WEALTH Grab, and the Rise of RENT-Seeking is one of the truly big stories of the last few decades:

http://noapparentmotive.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gordon-piketty-saez-389x400.png
(the Joker's wicked smile perhaps?)

Why is it not being discussed more widely in the MSM?
Because a more widespread understanding of This Game would endanger the wealth grab that is underway, and the elites who control the media do not want their game exposed

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey, Rocky - Let's try to relate that (new item) to the very interesting discussion already underway.

Or at least:
Explain WHY you think it is important, and NOT being covered by the MSM.
Else, it should just get a thread of its own.

Thanks

The Tea Party was a huge component of the coming collapse...

bought paid for and directed without thought...

now if you meant the other news item, I'm wondering why it isn't in local news, could the ADL propaganda wing be breaking down?

either way, shh I'll just watch... :pop2:

[GuyFox]

Here it is : "The Joker's Wicked Smile":

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/jimolsen2/joker2_zpsb1cf296c.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/jimolsen2/media/joker2_zpsb1cf296c.jpg.html)

"It's NOT the United States petrodollar. It's the globalists oligarchs, who are psychopaths, who control the petrodollar with the global exchange system, which includes the IMF and Bureau of International settlements. All currencies are indexed to the dollar and run through the global clearing system. Some would say, this system is backed by bonds for lines of credit, backed by gold and other commodities beside oil..."

I think it would be more accurate to say the USD is backed by military machine. This machine provides profits to military contractors, while simultaneously protecting their overseas businesses. And the good thing for them is: it is paid for by someone else: the hapless middle class, through their payroll taxes. Look how the tax share borne by corporations has dropped and stayed down:
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Share_of_Federal_Revenue_from_Different_Tax_Sources_%28Individual,_Payroll,_and_Corporate%29_1950_-_2010.gif

Who do you suppose owns those corporations? And consider further that capital gains taxes are lower than taxes on earned income.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul,
Can you still change the TITLE of this thread, as follows:
"There's No News on "The News" : What are the Real Issues?"

Thanks
Done :).

[swoods_blue]

The "mainstream" media is NOT strangely quiet about the gas deal between Russia and China. They are naturally and normally quiet about it, exactly as planned.

Not to quibble, but a Google News search for the terms "China Russia gas deal" returns 81,000 hits. The first page of results is full of major media stories about it, including some very direct discussions of the deal's implications for US/Russia relations and the future of US power, etc. Sources from all over the world and U.S., easily findable by anyone with a computer.

The TV news may be ignoring this, but that's all "infotainment" anyhow, and has been since O.J. Simpson's Bronco ride. It gets ratings.

The idea that important news is less important or attractive than celebrity gossip is NOT new. Mass media has long been obsessed with scandal, wealth and fluff since Day 1. It sells, and has since the invention of moveable type.