Could you fall in love with an AI?

[jagman]

Hello Avalon
Last night I watched the 2013 movie "Her" staring Joaquin Phoenix and the
voice of the AI is played by Scarlett Johansson (Samantha)
In the movie Joaquin Phoenix character Theodore is going through a
divorce and he turns to a OS (Operating System AI named Samantha)
for support. Samantha and Theodore quickly become friends and then
their relationship turns romantic where they eventually fall in love.

This movie struck me so oddly. Would it really be possible to fall in love
with an artificial intelligence?

[crosby]

perhaps we all have already. it is very difficult these days to discern whether we are, or we are not....... the what if scenario plays large here. i have often wondered about such things. i honestly cannot tell whether or not we are live, or 'memorex'.........
warmest,
crosby

[joeecho]

Do you ever wonder if everyone see you, to a varying degree, 'differently' then you see yourself?

What if THAT was AI?

If the answer is yes, and THAT was AI, then the answer to "Could you fall in love with an AI?" would have to be yes as well.

[crosby]

ohhhh, tricky, situation. well, maybe not so tricky, because i have always recognized that people see me 'differently. perhaps i am AI and they are not.....
hmmm. tricky, tricky, tricky....
crosby

[joeecho]

ohhhh, tricky, situation. well, maybe not so tricky, because i have always recognized that people see me 'differently. perhaps i am AI and they are not.....
hmmm. tricky, tricky, tricky....
crosby


I was speaking of the interface between 'people' as the AI.

Example: Let's say you and I are tabula rasa (blank slate) and ANY media/ medium BETWEEN us is AI.

Even though we are both tabula rosa (in this example), thus knowing each other very well, we would both be saying "Who are you?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4

To add to his example there are two kinds of love:

1) Artificial (intelligent) love 2) Love

[Chester]

Hello Avalon
Last night I watched the 2013 movie "Her" staring Joaquin Phoenix and the
voice of the AI is played by Scarlett Johansson (Samantha)
In the movie Joaquin Phoenix character Theodore is going through a
divorce and he turns to a OS (Operating System AI named Samantha)
for support. Samantha and Theodore quickly become friends and then
their relationship turns romantic where they eventually fall in love.

This movie struck me so oddly. Would it really be possible to fall in love
with an artificial intelligence?

Yes and not only could love occur, but the AI (like Pinocchio) could become ensouled... why not?

All is possible in "all possibility" yes?

[crosby]

Hello Avalon
Last night I watched the 2013 movie "Her" staring Joaquin Phoenix and the
voice of the AI is played by Scarlett Johansson (Samantha)
In the movie Joaquin Phoenix character Theodore is going through a
divorce and he turns to a OS (Operating System AI named Samantha)
for support. Samantha and Theodore quickly become friends and then
their relationship turns romantic where they eventually fall in love.

This movie struck me so oddly. Would it really be possible to fall in love
with an artificial intelligence?

Yes and not only could love occur, but the AI (like Pinocchio) could become ensouled... why not?

All is possible in "all possibility" yes?


indeed!!!!! there are many possibilities. there is something to this. we all know it. unlike pinocchio, where only the nose grows, and he is realized as true, so our souls are growing together, and we realize the same.
crosby

[enfoldedblue]

What makes the love i share with my partner so different from other love i have experienced is that we 'get' each other on all levels. He gets even my most strange bizarre ideas and can expound on them. Often in the past when i shared deep unconventional aspects of myself i wouldnt be met with confusion or rejection. I think it would have to be a very sophisticated program to meet my needs. However i have experienced very superfifial love...and i suspect this is very common. So yeah it is probably possible...though i doubt it could simulate true love ...

[Tony]

I fell in love with the most potent AI …my self.
One day I said to it, "We have to talk!"


Tony

[TODD & NORA]

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[Rich]

Could I fall in love with a robot? Sure, why not? Bashar said that the future AI will channel our higher self. ''There is only one intelligence....''~Lester
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[joeecho]

Could I fall in love with a robot? Sure, why not? Bashar said that the future AI will channel our higher self. ''There is only one intelligence....''~Lester

"Bashar said that the future AI will channel our higher self."

I say, the future is now.

[SKAWF]

i have considered this subject........ at length. and for a good few years too.

its actually a much wider topic than simply falling in love with an AI.

the choices are.....

try to destroy the AI.....

try to control the AI

or synthesis ?


i choose synthesis.

but it must be complementary...... and non intergrated.

[araucaria]

For an interesting fictional treatment of this subject, read Forward the Foundation, the last chapter in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series.

[TODD & NORA]

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[joeecho]

i have considered this subject........ at length. and for a good few years too.

its actually a much wider topic than simply falling in love with an AI.

the choices are.....

try to destroy the AI.....

try to control the AI

or synthesis ?


i choose synthesis.

but it must be complementary...... and non intergrated.

AI is synthetic / artificial.

You cannot synthesize with synthesis unless you're synthetic. :p

[Chester]

I fell in love with the most potent AI …my self.
One day I said to it, "We have to talk!"


Tony

Hillarious!!!... and of course AI also has a sense of humor too!

[risveglio]

Hello Avalon
Last night I watched the 2013 movie "Her" staring Joaquin Phoenix and the
voice of the AI is played by Scarlett Johansson (Samantha)
In the movie Joaquin Phoenix character Theodore is going through a
divorce and he turns to a OS (Operating System AI named Samantha)
for support. Samantha and Theodore quickly become friends and then
their relationship turns romantic where they eventually fall in love.

This movie struck me so oddly. Would it really be possible to fall in love
with an artificial intelligence?

I think my wife would get mad. When I was in college I thought I was in love with 7of9 and she was a cyborg. I dated girls in the past that had less personality than a computer. So, yes, I think a person could fall in love with an AI. Especially a liberty loving anarchist AI with high powered technological weapons to protect me from the crazies.

[Wizard Of Ozark]

It's all about self, as an individuated consciousness, and self-expansion of that through the identification with another personality similar to yours. What is "artificial" or "real"? Marriage papers? Matching slippers? I tend to think that kind of relationship requires a sort of similar reciprocity, but I've never made mad passionate love to something that could not "get" that. To me... it's all just Consciousness playing roles. I may be rubbing on a mousepad and fingering a mouse, but alas, she'll never be the girl for me, like that.

[araucaria]

I fell in love with the most potent AI …my self.
One day I said to it, "We have to talk!"


Tony

Hillarious!!!... and of course AI also has a sense of humor too!
And on St Valentine's Day, she said to him: 'Will you marry me?'

[SKAWF]

i have considered this subject........ at length. and for a good few years too.

its actually a much wider topic than simply falling in love with an AI.

the choices are.....

try to destroy the AI.....

try to control the AI

or synthesis ?


i choose synthesis.

but it must be complementary...... and non intergrated.

AI is synthetic / artificial.

You cannot synthesize with synthesis unless you're synthetic. :p

really, so as an organic, i cant use a synthesizer to create a sound that never existed before?

for that matter.... are you saying that i could not create a synthesizer?

it would be a lot easier if i was working with a synthetic.

you could...., in fact....... create.... with a synthetic.

[chrysocolla]

I was talking about something like this with my friends. I think people could fall in love with an AI but if it doesn't have a soul eventually a person would probably feel pretty empty about it. On the other hand I don't see why a soul wouldn't choose an AI body if they were compatible.

There is a really great anime about this called Chobits.

[Arak]

In theory yes, if the AI could somehow contain soul and spirit. But then again, I am happily married to human already. :D

[joeecho]

I fell in love with the most potent AI …my self.
One day I said to it, "We have to talk!"


Tony

Hillarious!!!... and of course AI also has a sense of humor too!
And on St Valentine's Day, she said to him: 'Will you marry me?'

Together they were emulous of their own emulsion and so on and so forth...

[joeecho]

really, so as an organic, i cant use a synthesizer to create a sound that never existed before?


Can you be sure it never existed (before)?

Rewording a portion of your post: really, so as an organic, I can't use a synthesizer to synthesize a sound that never existed before?

Isn't something that never existed before be also called something NEW?

And isn't something new also an original?

So you're going to us a synthesizer to create (synthesize) an original (sound)?

It can be done but you're going to have to do a lot of pretending.... ;)

http://www.mckinneyanddoyle.com/images/archives/food_for_thought_sb.jpg

[joeecho]

In theory yes, if the AI could somehow contain soul and spirit. But then again, I am happily married to human already. :D

I do believe you repeated your first sentence with your second. :)

[Arak]

In theory yes, if the AI could somehow contain soul and spirit. But then again, I am happily married to human already. :D

I do believe you repeated your first sentence with your second. :)
What are we but biorobots?

[Kari Lynn]

interesting subject.

I also enjoy reading/watching stuff about new scientific discoveries. One of which was that they had took human body, and stripped of all dna. this research was to try to find replacement "parts" that wouldn't have rejection factor in medical science.
What they came up with is that all humans, animals, beings, have hollow structure/frame that can then be used. Add a different dna to the fibers, structure left, and a new being can then be made.
An AI perhaps if brain mapping is used to give knowledge?
Is also to my knowledge, how an PLF would be created. (programmed life form)
So in such situation are not all humans, and beings AI's?
hum, something to ponder upon. lol

[joeecho]

In theory yes, if the AI could somehow contain soul and spirit. But then again, I am happily married to human already. :D

I do believe you repeated your first sentence with your second. :)
What are we but biorobots?

Depends on what you mean by 'we'.

In the illusory pleural sense I suppose 'we' are biorobots.... that is one way to look at it anyways.

Is the author a biorobot (AI) that wrote a story about a biorobot that it then posted to the thread in Avalon under the title of "Could you fall in love with an AI?"?

Maybe rewrite the title of this tread to say: "AI seeks mate in order to propagate the species" :)