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jerry
2nd June 2014, 00:36
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Fear mongering at its best here, with the irony being, its what I believe to be very true. I have my outlandish theories for why nuclear war may break out. It has nothing to do with destruction of nations as they have already accomplished that in the looting of the financial institutions enslaving them to the global powers that be. The likes of the Rothschild’s and Rockefellers have a victory . As the Mayan calendar came to the end, the world as we know it did as well, just as predicted.
Milneman
2nd June 2014, 00:58
Problem #1. This is a Russian media outlet. How are they any more credible than an American media outlet? Refer to a comment you made about propaganda, and the response I gave about truth being included in propaganda.
Problem #2. The warning ahead of the video gives me the impression that whomever posted this is wanting to psyche up the viewer that this is worse, or more frightening, or disturbing than it actually is.
Problem #3. The Mayan calendar reference has been correctly interpreted by Mayan authorities as the end of an era and the beginning of a new level of "higher consciousness".
Problem #4. I could probably come up with a series of experts who will give you their opinion on the opposite opinion stated. These are academicians discussing possible hypotheses that are, in no way, definite or probably but merely possibilities. The video has a very hard pro-russian stance. Jerry, if you wanted a good example of propaganda, you've found it.
I'd be more likely to take a 3rd party view, even that of Aljazeera, over an American or Russian source. Good try. ;)
jerry
2nd June 2014, 01:06
This is the conspiracy thread I see 4 problems you listed all have merit so ask the moderator to delete as it is a duplicate post from the news
GuyFox
2nd June 2014, 05:24
It would be a dumb move.
Is the US really that stupid? I think not.
Rocky_Shorz
2nd June 2014, 06:26
the US is not the Federal Reserve who decides who America is going to attack, we don't have a government, or a people's voice...
we have warmonger Neocons, right wing Zionist, bankers and oilmen running this country, no brains required...
which means it is very possible if they are going down to do something this incredibly stupid...
andrewgreen
2nd June 2014, 07:42
the US is not the Federal Reserve who decides who America is going to attack, we don't have a government, or a people's voice...
we have warmonger Neocons, right wing Zionist, bankers and oilmen running this country, no brains required...
which means it is very possible if they are going down to do something this incredibly stupid...
Maybe they do plan the first strike but it will more than likely be after some kind of false flag in America. I'm not sure Russia is at the top of the US agenda though, I think de-stabalising China is more important to the US as they become ever more resource hungry in the South China Sea.
Rocky_Shorz
2nd June 2014, 07:48
it's all saber rattling at this point, too many of us are watching too close...
Mixteca
2nd June 2014, 10:06
* * * "As the Mayan calendar came to the end, the world as we know it did as well, just as predicted."
I am a Mayan Caminante. I was with the Mayan elders in Guatemala for the celebrations on 12/21/12. There are three Mayan elders I can call friends.
All of which is to say this: NO MAYAN EVER SAID THE WORLD WAS ENDING ON 12/21/12. EVER. It was NOT the end of their calendar. They have 20 calendars. And this particular calendar, like ALL calendars, (including ours every Dec. 31wt), doesn't end, it begins again.
It was also not as simple as the herald of a new era of higher consciousness. The previous 4 cycles of this 5,200 year long calendar were each associated with a single element and either masculine or feminine energy. This new cycle, for the first time, will embody the new element of ether and be equally balanced between masculine and feminine.
And it will not be an easy transition, as major change is rarely, if ever, easy or simple.
Here is what the Mayans are actually concerned about:
1) climate change: they have been trying to get people to pay attention to this since the 1920s.
2) a major Solar Flare: they believe that a major solar flare will take down our entire grid, which will mean the end of all the global systems as we know them.
3) These two things in combination will result in large scale destruction and famine
4) We should all be prepared to have enough food on hand to survive for a period of 7 years, beginning in approximately 2024 (please note that the Mayan concept of time is extraordinarily far sighted, so this can mean a plus/minus factor of a couple of years.
Anyone interested in what the Mayans actually believe should read "The Book of Destiny" by Carlos Barrios. It is the ONLY book that has the full support and authorization of the Mayan Council of Elders. It is available in numerous languages and you can get it on Amazon.
Disregard anything written by Jose Arguilles. His work is based on the writings of a Spanish priest responsible for the death and enslavement of thousands of Mayans and he was fully dedicated to the destruction of Mayan knowledge and writings. Arguilles combined the writings of this psychotic priest with Chinese astrology and claimed it was Mayan. The Council of Elders has asked him to stop calling what he does Mayan and he has refused.
yelik
2nd June 2014, 11:56
I think it will be very unlikely, but not impossible, for any western power to carryout a first strike attack. Any nuclear launch will be done through the backdoor with a rogue nation or group funded and organised by the elites. I suspose the US could lauch a rogue missle at themselves, retaliate, then destroy the inbound missle or land it in a relatively unpopulated area. I do not discount anything when thinking how the elites operate, the more bizzare, the more likely.
syrwong
2nd June 2014, 14:20
Most people take comfort in thinking that it is impossible for the US to challenge Russia or China because this may lead to a nuclear conflict and the destruction of the human race. So this theme of a first strike against the countries is just disinformation or fear mongering. True, no sane leader or rational strategist would contemplate such a move. But now we know the controllers much better. They are both insane and irrational. We simply cannot substitute our thinking into theirs, because we are unable to think like them. As Putin put it mildly:
“They sit there across the Pond, and sometimes I think they feel like they’re in a lab and they’re running experiments on rats and not understanding the consequences of what they are doing,” the Russian president said at a press conference.”
-Russian President Vladimir Putin, March 4, 2014
If the Japanese nuclear disaster and the subsequent inaction were indeed orchestrated by them, then this insanity is proven. There is no proof of their starting the disaster, but plenty of evidence they are suppressing the rescue operation, which is nonetheless very mad.
Maia Gabrial
2nd June 2014, 15:58
Russia is making the US look so bad that it's only natural that the US wants to get back at them. But that will only backfire on them. Afterall, stupid is as stupid does. Obama is the leader of the United Stupidity corporation....
Sidney
2nd June 2014, 16:31
This must be tied in with the snowden interview the other night. Which IMO, Snowden hold a LOT of power right now. I have a feeling Snowden arranged that interview in exchange for holding back documentation of whatever else he may have up his sleeve. US need to keep our nose out of other ppls business.
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