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powessy

2nd June 2014, 01:57

This link here is the page that this conversation has originated from if you want to read more on the things discussed here as some references are made to this page.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=840214#post840214

The first thing I need to say is that there are allot of people that visit this site, many of you are seeking answers to the various things that set your search in motion. Some of the ones that have come here come to deceive and manipulate truths to the point you stop seeking these answers many times many of you stop looking. When you stop looking the darker side has won but this is soon not going to be the issue, soon there won't be anything standing in your way to gain the information you need to move forward. I realize these words fail to communicate to the masses but it is not them that I am speaking to. I am going to present some very difficult to understand information, but I feel it is necessary to write this post to show you all the loops I am jumping through to get the information I am presenting to you.

So many of you are wondering why if I have all these methods of communication why don't you have all the answers. Well this is only partially correct part of me does have all the answers but it is more complicated then that. What I am going to say and talk about will shed some light on what is happening. I am going to expose the deception right down to the very core as I am seeing it.

When Powessy ascended into me or we became intertwined on a cellular level a couple things needed to be done. The first thing was to silent the Freudian ID or as in the spiritual community express this as to transcend the ego. My ego had a shape a form one I could see he was more or less the noise of defense the little guy at the bar picking a fight with the biggest guy in there, we all know this guy. My ego was pissed when powessy came into my being so I closed him in a silent room and turned my head to him. the next day I looked to the door in this room and he was gone, What the hell I was wondering where did he go? Powessy said he had let him out and we needed to talk so for almost a week we bickered back and forth till a solution was met one we both agreed upon, He agreed to shut up and stay out of everything but if he felt there was a problem he was going to return, Agreed. He has remained almost completely silent ever since what a wonderful feeling. My life has taken a complete 180 since this time. My anger is almost nil, I spend time again looking at nature and all the beauty around me, I have gotten a little more introverted but this is due to all this going on, I am able to solve problems with clarity and there has been so many other improvements and my dreams seem to only show me the things I need not all the other filler stuff they used to be full of.

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The next thing that happened was he said he needed to learn about me. I was confused if he is me then shouldn't he already know everything there is to know about me, I am going to explain this part as we go. So I watched as he tossed all my memories up in a cloud of pictures and videos it looked like a tornado with thousands of rolling life time feeds twisting and turning. I started to cry as he rummaged through these memories, What is he going to think of me? Is there something there he will be ashamed of me about? This went on for several days as he went through all the memories of my life. He wasn't ashamed he just needed to know everything about this planet and me that I had stored all these years. Once I saw this I calmed down and started to tare down all the places that I had built up, all the walls were no longer needed for he was now with me. Powessy stood on that bridge for 44 years awaiting the day I would ask for his name and the day I would awaken. The soul cannot ascend till you are aware of it or until you have asked for it to enter by name, this begins the ascension process( this also coordinates with what the silver legend just came out and said). In this mind place I have built a room from the fallen walls and planted a tree in the center. As the walls fell I noticed something, there was a large black box in the back of the room one I did not remember seeing here before. Powessy says these are my memories and as my mind is ready it will open slowly showing me the things I do not remember.

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Once all this was done A story started to be unraveled one that involved the soul and our purpose for being here. He told me of all the hidden souls of Gaia and things that were going to happen to humanity. I was so distraught and scared of what I was being told and what I was seeing as these souls started to come to me at an accelerated pace. I was so scared I even came here and pm-ed Bill Ryan, but 500 words could not cover the message I had been given. I might write another post just about this but for this post lets stick to the different plains. Here is a link to Bill trying to help me calm shortly after becoming a member here. post #666 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post764600 and my response here or just scroll down to the next post under his #667 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post764728

Some people refer to themselves as starseeds, well this is interesting enough. Lets just say Gaia is the pomegranate born from the light and within her was the seeds just about 450 million give or take a million or two. So as Gaia came to earth and started to spread her seeds conscious life began. All was good for thousands of years till a dark force came to the planet one that wanted to be treated as a god. Many souls traveled here from all over the galaxy to enjoy a life in this new world. The souls of gaia are not able to leave earth till they have reached a level of evolution one that allows them to travel through the bridge of time, humanity is very far from this and moving backwards everyday as we get further and further trapped throughout these levels or plains. Higher dimensional souls those that have evolved can come here and take on a normal life, you can move down but not up. Where is the problem? 7.125 billion people from the original 500 million souls. Now you might ask where are you going with this? When a soul from Gaia is born here on earth it is a collective soul it gains life experiences and learns and evolves. When this life ends the soul returns to her this is where the problem began. Certain souls have the ability to open the 6 different plains as does the one who has betrayed man. When a person dies they head back to GAIA but some were taken down to lower levels slowly populating each, he got help from other entities and a bride was found one to replace the souls of GAIA but DNA needed to be extracted from the original 500 million. The original 500 million plus all the others from all over the galaxy are closely regulated to only show the signatures of these occupants. The 5 lower planes fill up with the original parties and clones replace them here to insure accurate accountability. You may ask what is the reason gold and silver yes but there is something way more valuable CHAKRA. So now you start to see the trade off, the dark one gets to move around taking souls to other galaxies working in conjunction with these other entities which are in need of the resources and man power. Chakra is the closest word I can come up with to explain this type energy required to operate the GATE. The gate that I illustrated above(post #26) has many doors all leading off to different parts of the universe "kind of like stargate but no fancy controls just chakra, a fifth dimensional portal. Why cant he just gain this chakra from humans brought here by GAIA, well these individuals must evolve to start to form this chakra and it is much easier to deceive the higher dimensional beings coming here and collecting their chakra. Everyone keeps saying we need to awaken the masses well this just will not work, if you were to make a scan of the planet you would only see the original souls plus those signatures of the higher forms this might explain a thousand Zeus, or other great godly names.

Now I need to address the starseed connection, those of you calling yourselves starseeds this is not correct you are travelers guests to this planet but you have fallen into the deception masqueraded by this evil power I am now calling him THEO. Over the last couple months many of you are starting to feel the need to become healthy, look up to the stars, seeing ufos at request, receiving messages from your loved ones or seeing figures of light as the veil is breaking down. I sense the barrier falling and the frequencies balancing as number sequences start to reveal themselves. I am not sure how many souls are trapped in the lower levels but only the number that is shown to deceive.

Next I want to say a few words about the channelers currently out there. I have been listening to many of the stories these people are telling, how humanity should be, what things that are expected as you come here and the story of awakening. I hold some reservations to these type contacts and find a bias towards them but my unbiased opinion is that they are receiving communications from the original AI system here to help encourage the starcrossers I am labeling the starseeds as this from now on. I will also be showing this as I continue to unfold this puzzle. The starcrossers will have an affinity to aliens and memories of life on another planet, the human/Gaia seeds will be awakened but will lean towards memories of past life and other worldly memories. We are not crazy we have just been deceived.

Next is the seers or those who are able to remote view, this group can be shown any number of events occurring in any of the 5 lower plains along with the stories they hold as the scenarios in these plains have played out several times the matrix if you don't mind me expressing it this way.

Past life scenarios: well this one is easy you have been trapped in the cycle for as many lives as you can remember and perhaps even more. This scared me a little even though I have no memories of any past lives here on earth, so I asked him, is this my first time? he said yes. He said that me and 350 thousand sleepers entered through the gate to await for me to be awakened. The purpose for these sleepers is to help combat the dark to be aligned to it and to react when all was in placed. This back door and 7.125 billion people made it easy to slip this small number of slittunes through without notice.

What is it powessy is doing, well this is the real topic. He is drawing in all of the evil souls within the veil and the subsequent plains with help from many of you and the sleepers even if you are unaware of it. Some of you may get glimpses of battles fighting monsters with sleepless and dreamless nights as your higher selves battle those of the dark. I am going to insert this next picture and then explain the hoops I was talking about and what it is that I am currently going through.

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A person who has their eye sight all their life then loses it for some reason has to go through many months of training to learn to deal with this. I have my eye sight but for this part of my life I am just as blind as any blind person. Over time the blind learn to hone many of the other senses this is what I have been doing. We all have been part of one of those science projects were you place your hand into a box and try to describe what it is you are touching well this was never my best game but over time I think I have gotten better at it.

in the above picture I am showing you all the different ways they have found to communicate with me. Wow so tell me the answers to the universe right, well first off I already hold that information the reason I don't remember is that we are not supposed to this is why we came here is to live and forget all the other things for awhile. This would also be a waste of time to tell me now and then just wake up to remember what took months and years to understand, the human brain is not capable of understanding all the complexities of the universe in just one life time. How do you learn or enjoy anything if your cup is already full, or you are fretting about things that fall outside your comprehension drowning you in fear. I have read story after story of people hiding from the veil because they were afraid of it, and yet you think we can handle the bigger picture.

So back to the picture above. The methods of sight are all around me and I am showing you how and where I believe them to be originating from. The tentacles on his head(powessy/me) is the reason for all the deception going on, this intelligence is learning and very deceptive this is who I refer to as THEO. THEO can influence all the different aspects of this communication. The tentacles are how I perceive them as this is how they feel. In the beginning there was two men that stood on both sides of me and meticulously placed dots all over my head this took many hours to complete taking on the shape of a falcon. As time went on and in the early days I meditated little, but noticed something moving on my right side a tentacle single and small, till now they cover my entire head along both sides. A month or so ago I placed this image in another post showing the same things but at the time did not explain them.

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The darker forces seek out this chakra and powessy is loaded with it they come like flies to poop. as the soul reaches close by he moves through this shield that forces him down to the size of a large bumble bee. They find themselves trapped by the light in a place unfamiliar to them disorientated but trapped. they fill in these holes and grow into strands the size of small hairs then over time as others fall in, the strands get larger, some are the size of my middle finger and as long as 15 inches or so. They constantly monitor my eyes for communication weaving in and about learning all the different signs, patience and thought without thought seems to bring the message to the front.

joeecho

2nd June 2014, 02:50

powessy

2nd June 2014, 22:06

This is an experience on par with experiences in general. It may feel more genuine/ authentic but that is the con.

I've been there and I keep on going back, glutton for punishment....apparently ;) . In fact, I have an all-access 'ride' ticket (like you).

It's just a ride, man, just a ride. Thanks for sharing it with me.

Enjoy! See you a ROUND!

Over the last seven months I have scoured the internet trying to find anyone with even remotely similar experiences and I have not yet come across even one, till apparently now. I would love to here your experience, I did a search and could not find any links to anything that you have posted in the past regarding these type experiences could you direct me to anything you have written. As for Par if that is the case then please point me to at least one other person having any of these experiences let alone all of them at once. I have spent most of my life within the veil exploring and playing and I have seen everything that would make most people stop cold in their tracks. If they wanted to play games then I was always here. I know the difference with what I am experiencing and games being played by the ones on the other side this is nothing like that.

powessy

3rd June 2014, 03:15

I do want to express something here something I think is relative to those reading this. This is not a GOD complex or something on that line. I am an Atheist have never been anything but, I have never been baptized, I hold great hatred towards the church and the things it has done in the name of Christianity. Powessy is my soul name A name told to me by my Guide. The rest of everything I have told you has come in the form of pictures, verbal communication as one drifts into the veil at the edge of sleep, physical touch from behind the veil, astral projections and obes. Powessy says their is no GOD as you think of it, this I believe. Man has been sold a story and not even a very good one at that, one that is used to bind you here, if you can not see past this then you will surly stay here lost in one of the plains repeating all this over and over again. The realities in each plain will seem as real as the one you are in now but their are differences some subtle and others great.

I am sharing this only because I feel the pain that you and your higher dimensional family is going through as many of you have been here for many many cycles, unaware of the rotations through the plains of deception. Everything I have said above in the original post can be attached to any existing spiritual or unidentified phenomenon as a link to the puzzle you are trying to figure out.

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During the beginning of my awakening and during the conversations with my guide prior to Powessy. I asked the entity on the pendulum who was speaking to me and weather it had a sex. The Entity replied back mind-we-angel-me-he. This statement tells me several things. first his job is similar to what we think of as the biblical angel but the first word cries out this is only how we perceive this due to our teachings. Do I believe that there are those out thier with infinity for good and are fighting the good fight, yes is the answer. Do I believe that these angles only serve some one omnipotent god, NO not at all. I believe that we are a collection of the goodness that runs through our veins a reflection of what we hold to be true.

Yetti

3rd June 2014, 21:05

powessy

3rd June 2014, 21:21

Hi Powessy, The whole thing is full of info but mixed like with a blender, a little difficult to follow up! but good in escence.
About the channelers. I'll tell you the only one who resonate good enough w/ me is Darryl Anka ( Bashar) ,lots of good info in his videos, so everyone can tie up loose ends in their own experiences, because this is all about, learning at this school planet.

Hello Yetti

I am sorry for the confusion and the format this has taken. I just dropped this last piece of the story I have been telling to see if any of it resonates with others the full conversation lies here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=840214#post840214 this will take you through these points in a more uniform matter. I will try and explain anything I have written so to bring clarity to it. I have been writing everything here because I do not keep a journal it makes it easier for me to look back at things, but I agree it may be a little haphazard in its format for I write as I receive new pieces to my puzzle, just trying to share.

As for any of the channelers, I to agree with what they are saying I just feel as if they are preprogrammed responses. None of the answers seem to speak about the current things going on( anything that is current follows the standard tie in with the channelers knowledge or feeling about that subject, is there any time they disagree) just answers to general issues dealing with awakening. Perhaps I need to watch more of these episodes.

A smart AI system can include the ability to read the channelers current emotional state and tie off the vibrations within his soul. Why is Bashar and these other channelers speaking to other entities when this information can be directly learned by the soul. Just something here seems strange to me.

powessy

5th June 2014, 02:29

Different types of obes and astral projections

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=841216&viewfull=1#post841216

Jake

6th June 2014, 14:24

Hey there, brother! :) Once upon a time, Powessy told me that there would no longer be OBE's after April 2014... I had an OBE last night. And I have had several since April. It makes me wonder if we are sharing the same definition of OBE.

I have to say WOW!!! Thank you for shedding a bit more light into your story. I really am taken aback... My friend, if you have never incarnated here on beautiful planet earth before,, then don't be surprised if your experiences are unique... :) I love you descriptions of events,,, you have obviously been doing your research...

What you are calling CHAKRA,, I have always called LOOSH!! Once upon a time I had started a discussion on The Question of Loosh. Feel free to check it out. The Question of Loosh... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51142-The-Question-of-LOOSH----) Loosh is the energy given off by our emotions and thoughts. I have posited that Loosh is what the Archons feed off of. [Archons being a subjective term] In this discussion, I paraphrased a story from Robert Monroe, in one of his pioneering books, looking into the matter of OBE. You can Check it out here!!! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62542-My-experiences-with-Archons&p=718411&viewfull=1#post718411)

Perhaps we are describing the same thing. Is this close??

My understanding about the 'evolution' (for lack of a better word) of the soul has nothing to do with planets and physical existences. Lower realms are for,, well,,, the lower!!! And that any of us that are awake/aware in this physical realm,,, are most likely 'souls' who have come here to help raise the conditions necesarry for humans to align with this information. Because you are right,,, the human brain cannot take it. In fact,,, the human BODY cannot take a full incarnation of a 'whole' being.

I learned that i cannot, responsibly, project my experience onto others. I have a peice of the puzzle, and so do you. Compassion, love, empathy,,,, these are the tools that are most effective when inspiring a soul to 'recieve itself'....

Not everyone will wake up. hmmm... Not everyone needs to!!!

The human experience has been augemented/hijacked. Due, in part, to our own making of it. But also due to higher beings who DO NOT share our desire for love, compassion, peace, etc...

It is important to understand that a SOUL is not HUMAN,,, nor is it ALIEN,,, This planet is undergoing an awakening.... and it has NOTHING to do with how we think or feel about it. (There is more going on here in the face of spiritual evolution than just what is happening with HUMANS!!)

Also,,, i hate to say it,,, but now that you have embraced the human experience,,, you may just be here for the duration!! :) So,,, please please please don't stop telling us what you came to tell us!!! The better you understand it,, the better you will be able to relay the information to us.

Also, not to throw a wrench in the mix,,, but ALL incarnations are simultaneous... If the future is inhihilated,, then we would not be here now!!! It is simple...

Consciousness is in a state of self-discovery. And we are all part of it.

Self discovery will not always seem to be a positive thing,,, at the 'time'...

And that, is my take on why there is negativity in the physical universes.

"Light breeds it, Makes it grow! It's energy surrounds us, and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." Yoda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMdR9iAflKo

Shine your light before men, Powessy. You are worth it.....
(and so are you, roger roger??)
jake

powessy

6th June 2014, 21:23

Hello Jake

Just to clear one thing up first. I said no one would obe till April 1st but this does not matter. From November till April I had no obes but I had several astral projections and a few new type experiences I will share later.

Jake today I came across another person that is awakening, she has also lost her ability to obe 5 years ago and by her definition I see this is the obe I am talking about. I am trying to separate these experiences as the plains are opening up to me.
First here is her first post:

Hi there! I am new to this site - just became a member today, and I'm still trying to figure out quite a bit. It's actually very overwhelming for me at this time. I just have so much to learn, as well as many questions about various things I've experienced over the years. One topic I'd love to get some insight about is out-of-body experiences.

Growing up until approximately the age of 20, I vividly remember having what I only assumed were dreams at the time. These "dreams" were all the same; I'd simply be hovering over my body watching myself sleep. Then after a while of just observing myself in this state, I'd begin spinning back down to my body pretty quickly, and upon reaching it I would jolt and awaken. I haven't experienced this in about five years or so, and honestly it is much missed. My longing for it to happen again caused me to do some research, in which I found that these "dreams" actually seemed more like out-of-body experiences.

So, I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this? Is there a reason it has stopped happening, and are there any things I can do to make them occur again?

You say well these are simple obes nothing to it right. Well this place she is in is the highest level and the hardest to maintain. I have practiced this exit for years and took many many times till I was able to actually move outside this position. in all other obe type exits I have free motion, can explore and move about easily, so whats the allure of this if all you do is float there. The feeling of utter exhilaration as you are and feel everything around you, you are weight less, fully conscious, and the vibrations are deafening. I would give a hundred of all those other experiences to just one of these. I can't get very far away from my body or change the environment but it is so real and I have learned to master this place. I know you to feel as if you are flying in these other experiences but it is nothing like this feeling, it's the difference between seeing an apple and eating an apple.

Loosh this is a very interesting topic for I to was going to share a similar thought but have not came up with a name for it yet. In my minds Eye at the place with the bridge I see three spheres one blue, one red, and one yellow. As I would stare into this place And see Powessy I could see the veins pulsating through his body blue and yellow. My eyes would always focus on him and the bridge never anything beyond the bridge. As I started to wonder the reason for the veins and there color these orbs showed up absolutely huge just floating in the back ground. The fact that these colors can, if mixed, represent every color known to man early art class memories I don't know they are just there. Emotions can also be labeled to colors, but what if the colors represent the key ingredients poured into each soul. A dash of good(blue) a dash of bad(red) and just a little power to animate it(yellow). These primary colors shown below also coordinate with the chakra system.

Here is the other interesting thing there is another sphere in this view a glass sphere with a lid. inside this sphere are seeds millions of them all oval in shape and clear except for this energy burning through them of mixed colors. I will discuss this later in further posts.

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Not every one will wake up might be as simple as many do not have the color yellow in them except for the original seeds planted here. What does a god want? He wants what all gods want they want something to believe in them, they want to hold as much power as possible over their believers but without all the colors, emotion they receive only a little power. Me and you and all the ones that are waking up have all the colors in us he wants this power and has gone to great lengths to get it.

I am devising an experiment one that you and your friends that have these obe experiences along with me can try. Take a single joker from a deck of cards place it face up on a piece of cardboard with 6 rectangles drawn on it, label each rectangle one to six. On the next time you obe take the card and put it on one of the squares. every time you obe the card should stay as you place it on the level you are on. now every time you get out you should be able to glance down at the board to awaken the memories of the place you are at. If the card is always on the same number you have gone no where new if it is back in the start this place is new. I don't know if this will work but I think it is worth a try.

watch the environment to see what else is out of place or what is being shown to you there are massages that might be reveled to you.

I am going to read through some more stuff and will return later to write more on these topics.

Jake wrote
Also, not to throw a wrench in the mix,,, but ALL incarnations are simultaneous... If the future is inhihilated,, then we would not be here now!!! It is simple...

You assume time is linear? and you are also assuming there is only one occurrence of you at this very time. 6 plains how are they connected is the Question I seek.

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years ago I asked myself about the big bang and the universe as a whole. As I got pondering this equation I came up with a theory. After the explosion a ripple spread outwards from this anomaly. Now how fast was the first wave moving and the second and the third, and how far apart. I wondered if these ripples would ever reach the speed of light, or maybe at times faster if one ripple crashed against another as the universe expanded. Is it possible that each of these ripples holds some memory or even another universe. what if the 6 plains are the closest ripples to us. Just a thought to ponder.

powessy

7th June 2014, 05:04

I wanted to discuss an astral projected lesson and illustrate the subtleties that messages are conveyed. This particular astral projection was very vivid completely 3d, I still find this experience to be as real as if I walked into your house and then walked away 15 minutes later. Try to walk into an area that you have never been then months later draw everything you saw in that brief moment months later. This experience is as vivid and accessible as any memories you have about anything.

What separates this experience from an obe, the terrain for one, the ability to change things, you can make changes in an astral projection or they change by themselves, the exit vibrations are less. So what about an astral projection you cant change the terrain or the construct? Well these are teachings or messages brought to you by anything able to manipulate your vibrations.

I have had many dreams that seem real and counter my ability to discern them from this reality questioning this reality against that. These type astral experiences are even harder to discern the difference due to all the other senses at play, usually the reason these experiences differ from reality is I know for a fact I was not in new york last night. This experience was from 4 months ago.

In this first picture I found myself standing in this street alley and got this new york city feel from within. I am not sure the location but if you asked me were this took place the only response I could give you is New York.
The outside of the building was run down and dirty, the only thought I had is what the hell am I doing here. With some hesitation I walked to the door and entered the building.

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The thing I saw as I entered is this huge dojo with all the bells and whistles my picture does this place no justice but you can get the jest of the interior. A man came forward and told me to remove my shoes and then some children came running up to me and off we went running up the stairs. The thing I had noticed is the outside area, there were allot of people there talking and laughing together. I could see this area as I was running up the stairs and it was so beautiful, but the kids wanted me to keep moving. So up we went.

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This last picture is of a class room and I am only showing one chair and the plant but there were twenty or more of these stations through out the room. I walked up to the chair and looked at the tree and a child walked over and pulled two things from the tree an apple and a sack with two pieces of sushi in it. Apples hurt my teeth so I drink at least two cups of apple cider per day and a can of tuna with some whole grain. As I was leaving the room I walked to the door and as I was going through it I saw two ducks sitting in their nests on this shelf, they allowed me to pet them and then the experience ended as I faded back to my body.

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There are many symbolism's regarding the purpose of ducks in your dreams but this is the definition I feel best suits this experience and me.

Duck

To see ducks in your dream, represent your spiritual freedom (if flying) or the unconscious (if swimming). They serve as a connection between the spiritual realm and the physical world. Ducks are multi-talented animals in that they can walk, swim and fly. Thus, a duck indicates your flexibility and your ability to blend and adapt in various situations.

powessy

7th June 2014, 17:17

What you are calling CHAKRA,, I have always called LOOSH!! Once upon a time I had started a discussion on The Question of Loosh. Feel free to check it out. The Question of Loosh... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51142-The-Question-of-LOOSH----) Loosh is the energy given off by our emotions and thoughts. I have posited that Loosh is what the Archons feed off of. [Archons being a subjective term] In this discussion, I paraphrased a story from Robert Monroe, in one of his pioneering books, looking into the matter of OBE. You can Check it out here!!! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62542-My-experiences-with-Archons&p=718411&viewfull=1#post718411)

Perhaps we are describing the same thing. Is this close??

I have been thinking allot about this loosh and this story.

First of all, the group of three ‘points’ were actually humanoid beings that lived in a physical reality. A man, his mate, and their child. They were of the Neanderthal type of humanoids. The unfamiliar realm was the physical realm, and three of the points of lights were early Earth humans. The other ‘point’ was a predatory beast that had captured the other three off guard, and was intending on killing, and eating them. The man threw himself in front of the beast and his family, in an act of unconditional love. He moved himself in between them, and fought with the beast. The fight went on for some time, but ended in the death of the man. The beast then killed the woman and the child too.

It was the rare act of unconditional love that was the source of the powerful stream of energy. Of course the non-physicals did not know of love or compassion, these were completely foreign concepts to them. All they worried about was manipulating the ‘points’, (mankind) into a pattern that would create loosh, (vital energy created by powerful emotion.) The ‘patterns’ that they created, manifested to the earth humans as ‘turmoil’. It is the intent of these non-physical denizens to do whatever they can to manipulate us and keep us in turmoil, for the sole purpose of feeding from the energy that it creates. And as long as we allow ourselves to be manipulated, they will continue to feed on us.

These denizens have manifested themselves as many things throughout history. They have used our own fears and weaknesses to manipulate us into a never ending cycle of war, slavery, hatred corruption and fear because it creates the type of vital energy they require for sustenance.

As I read through this several thoughts come streaming forward, the beast or animal is what it is by nature it feels nothing towards the prey other then to satisfy its needs. The family comprised of three satisfies the argument of the three legs of the loosh, but why did the experiment end there was the love of the child by it's mother and the fear of its death not able to produce this energy when the predator turned towards the remaining two. Does this only work when three are involved?

I think it is much simper then this I believe that their was only a set number of souls to be allowed to be born on this planet. The original souls and those who come here from other galaxies and worlds. Why do they want us to remain asleep? why the scare tactics towards those of us that can obe or astral project? Why all the different messages being received by channelers? Why multiple future lines of predictions? The answer lies in these questions.

My understanding about the 'evolution' (for lack of a better word) of the soul has nothing to do with planets and physical existences. Lower realms are for,, well,,, the lower!!! And that any of us that are awake/aware in this physical realm,,, are most likely 'souls' who have come here to help raise the conditions necesarry for humans to align with this information. Because you are right,,, the human brain cannot take it. In fact,,, the human BODY cannot take a full incarnation of a 'whole' being.

Evolution requires time and many incarnations, do you think that there is a never ending supply of souls that are filling up the universe from this planet, this is very unlikely. The human soul is stuck here and can not move beyond this trap. The soul of the sheep can not be heard beyond this solar system but your voice and mine can be heard across the universe, wouldn't this be a reason to keep you asleep and afraid that you regain the powers that lie dormant in you.

I learned that i cannot, responsibly, project my experience onto others. I have a peice of the puzzle, and so do you. Compassion, love, empathy,,,, these are the tools that are most effective when inspiring a soul to 'recieve itself'....

Powessy says it is emotion that gives us away to them, a beacon that shines loudly in the veil. I am seeking more center and trying not to let things effect me, but refuse to back away as I am going to stand strong in this battle.

Not everyone will wake up. hmmm... Not everyone needs to!!!

The human experience has been augemented/hijacked. Due, in part, to our own making of it. But also due to higher beings who DO NOT share our desire for love, compassion, peace, etc...

Here you are wrong about the making of this. When I look into this yes/no place I see constant words and answers to thought. These words form suggestion and bounce around with in our space changing our thought and feeling towards things.
You and I are more susceptible to this but our higher selves block much of it. There are those that have no protection and can be lead to any length to do as they please forming their own future of events. The veil is thin as I see it regarding suggestion or inception as our words in our mind can also be tools to move things at will.

It is important to understand that a SOUL is not HUMAN,,, nor is it ALIEN,,, This planet is undergoing an awakening.... and it has NOTHING to do with how we think or feel about it. (There is more going on here in the face of spiritual evolution than just what is happening with HUMANS!!)

Gaia was under the same illusion as all of us trapped and afraid as the dark continued to make ground. She is coming back soon with a new litter this I assure you. As for the awakening it is occurring on all the plains.

Added later

I have been wondering allot about the conversation thing why some can not talk to me but others can. it seems that in areas were I encounter some groups they do not have the ability to project thought and speak with their mouths. Maybe my higher self is protecting me from this interference, I don't know.

For many years in my youth I practiced to think in my head with thought and not through my vocal lines. It took awhile to do as words in my head seemed to always form in my vocal area but with practice I only form words in my head now. Why do you think it was so important for me to learn this why so much concern regarding it, a lesson or something, I question this also.

Shezbeth

7th June 2014, 20:09

:lol: the practice of thinking 'thoughts' as opposed to 'words' is foreign and alien (ha!) to most people.

Either the idea of thinking entire ideas at once (rather than drawing them out in a linguistic sequence) has never occurred to them, or they have become so conditioned by the practice that they are unwilling to approach a different method.

I suppose from a social standpoint, individuals who don't think in the common manner may be hard to read and/or predict, as there is no observable transition of body language or facial cues that can be perceived by the individual. Humanity unconsciously relies on such behaviors to get a feel for people, and the absence of such can be quite unnerving to observe for individuals less sure of themselves; I.e., individuals who engage in :bs:.

powessy

10th June 2014, 01:58

Today I am going to tell about a dream/astral projection/obe/dream within a dream type experience I had last night. First I am going to go back several months to the beginning of my awakening.

In October of 2013 I had just started to dowse my spirit guide with a pendulum. My guide helped me start to open my chakras, learn the name of my soul(my true name) and helped in the flow of my vibrations. The reason for needing to speak through the veil was to find the purpose of the green grid. The conversations progressed and things were told to me that seemed to much to believe but I kept asking and he kept telling me as a whole story came unraveled before me. Anyway, I was mostly concerned with the grid and he said he was the reason for it and he would lower it to show me. That afternoon I went up to take a nap and as I feel asleep the vibrations started to form and the exit was, well wonderful, I shot out like a bullet moving as fast as I could to the end of the hall, got half way through my youngest sons room then pow, I was stopped dead in my tracks, Why are you stopping me all the time I thought at that moment. I then started to fade backwards this was something that has never happened before, what is going on. I then looked back up and saw a light figure standing there his back to me as he was left there as I was fading out. In ALL OF my obes I have ever had I have had a clear recollection of the return every time, except this one, I was just back in body right after that vision. The part of me that separated was or looked like a warrior of some kind but shined white in radiance. I am including this to try and tie this to the dream sequence that happened last night.

Now for the dream/astral projection.

The dream started out like a normal dream something about work, then the dream upgraded when the characters none of which worked with me in real life started to talk to me telling me they needed me to take these truck rims to the town next to us. The dream turned in to an astral projection as sight and sound became clear and the environment flowed to 3D. The man told me to load the rims in the company truck but instead I sat the rim on the ground and it hovered about six to eight inches above the ground. A bar of light shot out each side of the rim for my feet and then I just sat on top of the rim with the other rim on my shoulder, and away I went. I could feel the road and the wind on my face and body the weight of the rim on my shoulder, I thought to myself how good this felt. The experience then blacked out for a period of time and I then arrived at the place where I was supposed to drop off these rims. The men at the shop took the rims from me and we talked a little but I can't remember the conversation. As I walked away I started to have this glitch were I couldn't figure out how I got both rims there and the fact I rode the one there was not computing in the equation. Then I awoke from the dream in another house and immediately vibrated into a obe experience within this other house. Prior to obe when I awoke from the dream I noticed I was not in my room at this time, but still this was not breaking the experience, I then noticed a woman was sleeping next to me but she was definitely not my wife.

Astral projection to awake somewhere else to obe still aware of the events unfolding.

As the obe started I remained in the bed and noticed the house and the room it was in the upper loft of this older house, there were steps going down to the lower level and a railing just to the left of the bed, A landing type area on the other side of the railing and a small bedside stand.

Some back ground information before starting the rest of the experience is needed.

For many years while starting to fall asleep I could feel something making a line and inserting something into my crown chakra area and allot of messing around going on. I tried for years to prevent this as it scared me that something was trying to effect my thinking and my obes. I would some nights sleep with my hands over my crown to prevent this tampering. Seven months ago when powessy ascended He told me some things needed to be done, like the eyes and other stuff. As I laid down and awaited them to start their process I could feel this same thing happening, what A relief to finally figure this out. Right away after his ascension I could also feel others touching me from behind the veil, some good and some not so good. Over the last seven months I have felt hundreds of entities touch me and enter within me. Now to explain the rest of the experience.

Here is a link to the eye modifications http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=833179&viewfull=1#post833179

So now the obe is in full effect and two entities move up onto me gyrating and moving up my body. This is not how it sounds but this is not a new feeling for me. Both entities were dark but solid in form, very much so that I could not tell the difference between this and someone from here. The experience was still just emotionally flat and my feelings were so surreal. The one entity stayed down on my right side and the other was directly over the top of me. My hands were on her waist as she started to push her head into mine, I could feel sexuality in her and emotion but mine was still on hold. I then asked her her name, she pulled back and answered "MY NAME IS VICKY" hello vicky I responded, and then thought how am I going to remember this name, names are not one of my strong points. She continued to force her face into mine, I then asked if she had died, She responded "YES". I then asked her when she died and she said in "1559" . This made me think a moment were am I, and a bunch of history stuff regarding this time period. I then asked her if she knew what the year was, she hesitated and I replied "2014". Se then said "NO that is what the paper says". So she can read the paper I thought to myself, so she knows whats going on in this time. With all the wiggling going on I then asked her is this about sex. She pulled back and looked at me angry and said " NO!! I am married". She then entered into me and the obe ended. I awoke in this other house and went to my note pad and wrote down her name and the year. I then laid back down to sleep and awoke back in my real home next to my own wife. I looked over to the clock and noticed only an hour had passed but it felt like all night. When I woke up here I realized I had wrote her name and year of death in the dream there not here so I got up and jotted it down quickly in a book.

One other thing I want to note is when I was touching her I could see her not the black but her skin and flesh, not through my eyes but in my mind. These images are still very vivid, she was probably in her twenties or thirties her skin was dry but young, I did not see her face.

This is the second time I have projected into someone else there thoughts and their dreams. I have never drove a motorcycle and would not know how that feels going down the highway. I have never worked in any of these places or met any of the people in the dream. The house that I was in felt so familiar but one I have never seen before.

As for the dream within a dream which is happening to me all the time now, may be due to the part of me that has separated a break in the link, even though he is never to far away. I think this was powessy showing me what he is doing by removing these entities from causing trouble behind the veil as I believe she was affecting this man whom I had entered.

Any Thoughts.

powessy

13th June 2014, 03:44

In this post I want to write about a thought that has been stirring in my head one linked to the 6 plains. This thought seems to keep popping up as I am arranging the pieces I have acquired regarding this topic.

Now I know many people will not agree with this idea for it also seems odd to me, but somehow this is what I am seeing. These plains I think are better understood as fragments of consciousness, The main fragment is the higher dimensional self followed by the higher self as the main construct to each individual and how we experience THIS. The soul or seed is the container of all these plains and is placed by Gaia to insure balance.

Plain/Fragment #1; Higher dimensional self - The higher dimensional self has evolved to travel through time and space, this body is alive and stays in stasis for the duration of a lifetime whether it chooses to come here to earth or any other planet, not all races possesses this technology. More evolved races limit there population size to insure sustainability a unity within their ecosystem and with extended life cycles those that die must wait sometimes long periods before they can be reintegrated back into their world. With sometimes very long wait times many choose to move and experience other worlds during this time, like coming here to earth. A traveler without a higher dimensional body travels here only with the other five fragments.

Plain/Fragment #2 Me and You - This is the plain here as we perceive it. The higher dimensional self moves from it's current experience into the veil once this happens the higher dimensional self is now a traveler with only the basic five fragments. These fragments hold all the memories and experiences of the traveler but are stored in these different fragments/plains so not to forget there identity. These pieces making up the soul are then provided a life to have here or else where. The experience is then established through birth and life. This may also explain why some of us don't feel any connection to our parents or family.

Plain/Fragment #3 Higher self - The higher self is our first defense and protector of our soul it regulates our thoughts and dreams to insure balance and integration. Many people are not in touch with their higher self and do not gain the experience it contains. When the third eye is closed and other chakras the higher self is weakened and defenseless leaving us to be tormented by those behind the veil falling into inception and disarray. We experience dreams and astral projections through the experiences held by the higher self.

Plain/Fragment #4 Dreams/astral travel - This plain is physical but can be created and destroyed. The dream plains are less evolved and may be hard to understand their purpose if the higher self is not realized. When the higher self is realized your dreams will take on new depth and feeling as the teachings become more real. When one is balanced with their higher self they will astral project more often and gain control over life and time as everything starts to move as one with you. The higher self can also open up the obe plains/fragments this plain is solid and can not be changed. So whats the point? The higher self can locate other dreamers with similar content, astral project you there and then blow the experience into a full blown obe where you can talk and see friends from all over the place. The obe plain is similar to here but is separated by time. In all my obe experiences I have seen things that are not of this time things moved, this may only be my perception of this but I am still playing with this notion as I read others experiences.

Plain/Fragment #5 OBEs - This plain is the next solid plain other then here on earth with similar rules. The obe plain does allow for self flight and other abilities and may be the reason for the belief in telekinesis, magic, and many of the other magical arts. The higher self knows of this place and will sometimes influence us in these areas but without access to this plain many people just keep wondering why they have such great yearnings for these arts.
When someone dies they materialize in this plain where they are brought back to Gaia. Many people do not want to explore this place because they are afraid of those that linger there, this is understandable but when the higher self is strong you have nothing to fear. I love to obe and ask Powessy daily to take me out to the obe game.

Plain/Fragment #6 Soul This plain is the beginning and the container of our experiences, I refer to the soul also as the seed of life. The soul holds all of our experiences and is the piece that insures you are you in every return. The soul plain is a shared experience as the soul stands in oneness with all the others here on earth aware of all outcomes simultaneously. Think of the soul as being a hive of minds all aware of everything everywhere. The more one is in synch with the higher self the clearer one sees the things around them.

I have drawn a star to try and show this sequence of plains/fragments. This idea is open to interpretation as I would like to hear any ideas anyone has.

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Yetti

13th June 2014, 21:56

Thanks again Powessy. You are right about the chanellers , but : we must remember we are tapping into something very complex here . If they use another entity to get info and spread knowledge it's all right to me , but I know you can reach the same connecting with your higher self, via meditation or using hypnosis, so my point is: many ways to get the same.
Remember there are now many volunteer souls at work, here without karma, so the information is going to be known one way or another, can't be stop. se ya!

powessy

14th June 2014, 18:40

Just a few things I want to say to anyone reading this post.

I have had OBEs my whole life with over thirty years of them, figure it out at a minimum of 52 a year for thirty years 1560 or so and I can almost remember every time. The 52 a year is on the low side I would gander to say at least over a 100 per year is more like it. I have had just as many astral projections all of which are realy starting to resurface these last couple of months along with new experiences coming at me.

I have never read any book(not even one) telling me how to do this nor do I need anyone suggesting to me their method. I hated meditation and just the thought of it made me want to quit having these experiences to come if it ever came down to having to do it. Don't let someone tell you all this bull it will not help you, come on realy" turn everything off and sit in silence for months waiting for it to happen, might as well lock me up in some padded room. The fastest method to gaining these experiences is to just start talking to yourself about having these experiences(call it meditation, this is what I call it). I mean tell yourself you want to have an obe or an astral projection, no commands no bull just talk to yourself. Just before bed say to yourself I want to go out tonight and see the astral or I want to experience an obe, will you please show me, and why you are at it think about things that are of interest, get to know yourself. I just ask, maybe it is this simple, worth a shot and costs you nothing. As you start these conversations to yourself get to know yourself also, look inside. There is no get rich quick plan, no get skinny with out working for it, this is the same thing. Learn yourself, try things by yourself, it is your body your higher self you need to convince him, he realy don't care about what you read in some book. The higher self is you, and it wants you to recognize it, open your eyes and see this and you will be set free.

Those of you just having your first experience and reading this listen carefully. This process is to awaken you to send you out to find answers, this is all there is to it, not some hidden reason, not some hidden message. The message is clear, wake up learn yourself and realize who you are. Those of you reading endless material about what your last experience means, you will need to look inwards to find the answer not here or there but inside you.

I have always looked within for my answers perhaps this is the link to these experiences I have.

I have exited my body from all sleep positions so stop molding yourself into some predefined position guaranteed by some so called master. Stop reading all that BS and BELIEVE. In the beginning of my awakening I asked my guide what it would take for them to open my wife's third eye he told me TO BELIEVE. So I am telling you if this is what you want then all you need to do is BELIEVE, believe that it is possible.
I love each and every experience I have had yearning for more each time perhaps its this unquenchable thirst for the experience that tells my higher self to bring it on, I don't know it just happens.

One more thing do not ask to go to source do not ask for a destination these are just commands that will serve you no good. Ask your higher self to show you what is important and if you end up looking at source so be it, but I don't think this will be the destination it will take you. There are hundreds of people all tied up in the phase group all given the same thing to command towards and lo and behold they all are seeing the same thing. We read to much stuff this creates these experiences and misgivings. Keep your mind clear.

powessy

14th June 2014, 18:55

Here is a link to some interesting dreams I have been having in the counter balance thread: Frogs and Faces

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=844064&viewfull=1#post844064

powessy

22nd June 2014, 03:55

I want to address something that has been bothering me for some time now.

Intent

While commenting on another persons post about the dark ones they saw during a recent obe, I was asked about my intent, This word seems to be circling in my head and feel I need to address it here.

What is my intent? My intent is not simple to discuss but one that might shed some light on some of the things you have read in this post.

In the early days of my awakening and powessy's ascension into me I could feel things moving across my crown area. When these things moved and walked across my head I could close my eyes and see them and memories of their life, as I phased into a deep trance. It took me almost a month to realize what was going on for I did not believe what I was told and kept looking for excuses for this phenomenon. I took to the internet as my only source for information into this which was happening to me. I trusted Powessy and felt he meant me no harm for I have seen him my whole life, just wasn't prepared to have him inside of me/us. I came to Project Avalon to seek answers and started my quest for answers here and many many other sites.

As I started to feel comfortable and was calming down a bit, I started to comment on some topics of interest here. The crawling has never stopped even to this day as they keep coming, but during those early days there were other things here also. I started to get attacked from something much more powerful. This only happened for around a week as they would come in the evening two or three at a time all part of some outside group. These projectors had some device on them to tell there location and other information located on their wrists. How do I know this? The attackers were of European background the images I received showed me they had families and their ages were also all over the place some old and some young. When they would get close I would feel the urge to think about personal things like my name, age and where about. Projected attacks are easier to do when both parties are asleep or the same time zone. The fact the attacks occurred around five at night tells me they had no idea where I was from, for my information here could all be false. They never returned to tell what they had found out ether. These attacks would send me into the defensive and start my mantra and phasing process. I would feel a numbing working from the back of my head to the front as powessy would trap them in this other reality.

Ok so how does this have anything to do with intent.

You see I learned that they could find me through my name, your name, any name. This is not a one way door I have also learned this over this time of my awakening. Not so long ago a member from here was asking for some help to remove things from around him through a shaman. I hesitated but choose to communicate privately with this member and asked him if it was ok for me to open a connection between him and me to remove this darkness. He accepted and I was able to clear him of this darkness polluting his soul. He then asked me to do a friend of his a favor and connect with them to remove things around them, I accepted with her permission. I have been in a long communication with a very good friend I have met from this site and he seems to have visions of things around me for we are also connected and very close. I smoke cigars a couple per day to reduce tensions and relax also to perform my callings. It was during one of these times that I started my clearing of this person. I am going to share personal communications between me and my friend to show how this process looked to him and what I saw during this process, I will not share names.

This is the response I gave to her and I hope she has remained clear.

"I felt something very disturbing today. During my meditation today I came along a soul that was almost dark she was completely exhausted and in a position one should never find themselves in. As I approached her I could feel a great amount of pain and suppression from things lurking in the dark corners of the veil. I started to cry so hard as she tried to open her eyes after years of pain. I called these evil souls within and she stood and placed her hand upon my head but this time something different happened, Two threads from my crown chakra molded with her and her light started to glow again. I feel responsible for all this pain as those of the light have been living in a life of darkness and suffering brought on by the evil that lays behind the veil. "

Here is what my friend saw.

.. had a visit of a young boy fronting me with mouth"creations" and his creation turned out to become a woman.
My point in telling this is also the unexpected fact that they where smoking. Then, it looked like a cigar.. and I see the glow increase as they inhale but mostly I wonder if you have heard of any danger in such meetings ? Some nights ago a saw a Japanese man/woman? Hair looked not japanese as it was high and light. He smiled as to confirm that he see that I see him. Well, he also smoked but a normal cigarette.By intuition I drew my new weapon, the sword, in my right hand and light in my left. This disappeared, but I remember from last summer that those people that created with their mouth also radiated things and often accompanied by icing. May you guess who they can be, are they in-betweens ? They sure got some magical power.. They made me see crystal clear things last summer but I distracted myself as I had the feeling that it was a kind of "pay-tv"

So for my intent it is only to remove the things that are preventing you from awakening. A name is all it takes to connect to someone and as doors are opened a tree is born that starts with you and branches outward to all those that you know.

I promise to anyone reading this I am fighting the good fight and there are many of you also unaware that you to are in this fight as well. Thank you.

soulplayorb

24th June 2014, 05:55

powessy

24th June 2014, 22:01

When Powessy ascended into me or we became intertwined on a cellular level a couple things needed to be done. The first thing was to silent the Freudian ID or as in the spiritual community express this as to transcend the ego. My ego had a shape a form one I could see he was more or less the noise of defense the little guy at the bar picking a fight with the biggest guy in there, we all know this guy. My ego was pissed when powessy came into my being so I closed him in a silent room and turned my head to him.

I would not, as you have done. I reached out to other aspects of myself, bypassing this process, and let those aspects communicate with the Larger self of this entity. I went to a distant future 6D incarnated self, in mediation, and invited them to come back to this space to co-create in this space from the knowledge of that time, and then I brokered a past life in Egypt with other keys.

Then those two beings worked this out, which made it diffficult for my CLOSED higher self, who's EGO was disturbed but for the reason from higher, not lower.

But as 5D felt the vibration in the tree, it then whowed up, and then Crystal self decided to run through me to let me know it was there, and now 12D soverign self started to pitch in.

Just recently my 4D self, has now got involved, and conceeded as I have done the work, using the healings from the distant 6D self.

Your process is your process. You assume that everyone must do it your way, you are a critical person who thinks your way is only the way to go. I have done this in other lives, but this life is different.

This in effect has given me an advantage. And it has pissed off alot of people First it pissed off my 4D self, who has a very agressive attitude against Elite, but the 6D brokering has helped and 6D has netotiated with 4D to get on board, all without me having to.

And the confuses my enemies, because many of them do not know where my source is coming from because it is higher then they are. But I assure you that I can and will direct those higher energies if I require it. You see what you think you see, you see a simple cut out, but your process is different. I have my own process.

And that decision also pissed off alot of people, such as the future ascended selves, that were a certain way, and now I was changing them. So one of my future selves incarnated back here, tried to manipulate me to get me back on track, he is hooked to being more bisexual and healed, and I am not developing the same way as before I made these choices.

I have created an anomolie on the system, it is my anomolie, it is none of your business. You have your process I have mine, leave me alone, you are seeing only what you are allowed to see.

hello again soulplayorb

I am going to explain this just one more time to you. As I look into your soul I found it to be clean eyes closed and scared as if pushed to stay in a corner. You were given some information to continue your process, but most of it is false or lost due to your separation from spirit. You have not connected with your soul or it would not be standing here with me. The reason for my concern of the cleanliness of your soul is that you are not connected to it and you have had to play by the same rules as all of us. The only way this could have happened is through some contract and the fact the dark ones want you to sell there agenda. This is ok, my battle is not against you it is them I seek and they will not be a problem to you any more. You will not receive any more information from them this is done and cannot be undone.

I keep trying to express this and everyone can choose to believe it or not but every time you say or speak the name soulplayorb or any other name he goes by, this opens a door through him marking you. What better way to find people like us then to have us dwelling on his name. Who listens to this crap he is selling, We do the ones here the ones seeking spirituality or questions. This is such an easy process to complete and they do it directly through the veil. He does sense the power and energy that is transferred through him but it is only to sell the illusion it is not real, the energy he is feeling is only them keeping the game going. This is not your every day ordinary web site it is one full of people like us, some of us are very sensitive to energy transference and others are not. Many of you who fight with each other or argue and hold anger towards someone this energy is bouncing around all over the place, I can feel it. Send love and good will, send understanding and forgiveness, send thoughtfulness and compassion stop sending hate and all the negative energies to one another.

Soulplayorb when you are ready there is someone waiting to know you and for you to see him, forget what you think you know and let him show you the truth.

Powessy

Milneman

24th June 2014, 22:40

let the church say AMEN.

(ps: peeps? It's spelled a lot. Two words. Not allot, or alot. :p)

powessy

21st August 2014, 01:59

I am moving three posts to this thread from counter balance

I want to tell a story of something that had happened to me recently.

in the beginning of July I was sitting out side a store waiting for my wife to finish her shopping. While in the parking lot, I received a message of sorts through writing inside my head, she said her name was Agatha a lover from my home world Phane. Agatha told me many things as we talked for almost 45 minutes during which time I cried several times as she told me stories of herself and myself in times past, she wanted to know why I was so miserable and unhappy with life. She asked questions about my wife and the fact they were best friends prior to here, she was wondering why I always found her no matter where we went, or the world that I visited. She spoke to me as if she was sitting right next to me in the car, I just want to keep talking to her but she said we could not speak ever again and things would be alright.

Over the next two weeks I found many others coming forward and talking to me about things. In a previous post here I spoke of ten faces shown to me during astral projection 9 within a toads mouth and one that my aunt was asking about. They told me this was the original 12 and the other 2 of them I had found already and were here. They told me that the twelve were supposed to watch over the planet but failed to do this job. I was told in the beginning of this solar system god came here with lucifer to see this solar system and start life here, lucifer came to learn and observe the builders power and learn how to create planets. The builder offered the planet to a group of aliens named the Deltafet to watch over the planet and insure this planetary life's course. Time in the veil has no boundaries, 7 days is millions of years here. As the builder left he sent out the message to the deltafet to come but they had to reach the earth within a certain time limit. Lucifer jealous and angry at the builder for not allowing him the opportunity to seed this planet and watch over it, he decided to ascend to the earth to create life here to show the builder he was capable of doing this. Lucifer walked the earth for thousands of years creating things and building things waiting for the deltafet to arrive. The message to the deltafet was lost and Lucifer tired of waiting chose to die and move behind the veil where he found the seeds to life, he also found the dark ones or the builders of the worlds. The dark ones can move things from one side of the veil to the other side through a door that the builder gave them to do their work. Lucifer wanted life to advance and found the gate were he traveled to dieing worlds and stole seeds from other worlds to populate this one. Lucifer also changed properties of the seeds to change their anatomies and emotions. A group of twelve was created or banned together to come to earth and find the truth about the removal of the seeds and the were about of Lucifer to find him and question him about the other souls or seeds brought here. The twelve brought with them a new type of dark one that was not like the original sent here to form the planets. The twelve could not find Lucifer and decided to indulge in the creations that Lucifer created, they became lost to these things and the power they held as gods over man. The twelve eventually moved behind the veil and their memories were lost to reincarnations, the old gods. lucifer decided to build his own world behind the worlds inside the veil hiding himself in this placement along with the dark ones. Lucifer tried to speak to early man after Christianity was formed and showed them things through the door but was tricked by man and this technology was stolen and the door was closed. Man closed the door to the truths Lucifer showed them hiding them away for thousands of years. I then was told this is when the greys entered the picture as they came here and found man and his soul lost in the veil. The grays were not supposed to be here ether but the messages to the builder were never received and time just continued to move forward. Many lies were told to the builder and the others as to all the events that were occurring here. The dark ones behind the veil were taking the souls here and moving them to this other world of Lucifer's.

many people feel they are from other placements or have origins from other worlds this is very possible under this scenario.

there are many aspects to this story that seem off to me, because during the story they spoke many times of the 27 others that were not themselves within themselves I don't understand this thinking. They still tell me that I am not myself within myself that I must become myself and himself together to become something else. This story faded as a new story arose one that was about me and my past during my attack six years ago.

I do not know if this story holds any water but over time the pieces kept moving around as other came forward and told new pieces that didn't match with the original story the one I told here.

I will write about the attack next post.

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The attack

Many people here talk of attacks that happened to them at one time or another, but never to the extent this attack happened. Around eight years ago my thyroid started going out, I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism normal thyroid levels are between .3 and 7 mine was around 240. It took the doctors two years to finally diagnose me and started me on thyroxin. During the recovery time I started having extreme vibrational torsions that came and went several times a day. I have several methods for seeing into the veil, eyes open, eyes closed, and obe travel. The veil to me looks like a fine stagger of dots like static in the air making everything hazy when looking into it, like looking through night vision goggles. I can only make out movements and shapes not whole forms, but enough to see something close to me or moving by me. I can see the movements on objects and around objects moving in a breathing motion as I focus on things.

The first thing I remember is noticing a movement within the bridge area where powessy has stood in wait for my awakening. This movement started out slowly then faster and faster till something started moving around and powessy also started vibrating. I then witnessed a large spider standing on top of the bridge attacking powessy, soon after this I had an astral projection and witnessed thousands of spiders moving towards me into the bridge area. A face showed up in my sight of a young man who looked much like myself but with blue eyes, he look very frightened. I created many barriers and thoughts about barriers to this place to block out the intruders in this place pushing my chakra from the center of my heart outwards through out the bridge area. The ability to create things here was very difficult as the things I created were destroyed as fast as I could build them except for the chakra bubble I created from a different type of chakra I learned to use prior to this attack. The problem is the smaller spiders attached themselves to areas inside my head and found ways to mimic the other things within my body, the larger mother spider was trapped outside the bubble. For months my vibrations kept misfiring and would go out of control for whole periods of the day. I changed my eating habits to the extreme looking for ways to even out the effects of these vibrations that seemed to be tearing me apart. It took almost two years to get her to leave and for here children to leave also. The impact of this attack still threatens every fiber of my being even today as I become weak at the very thought of having to deal with this again.

The second deception told to me.

In the previous post I spoke of this new change I was going through. The conversation about the 27 continued for another day or so along with many other aspects of that story which was now going to change again. I found myself in an artificial simulation of sorts as AI was the direction I started to lead the conversation. I found that the ones I was talking to needed to figure out their position inside my mind as they started to talk on different lines and the conversations with the others disappeared. I was now in a program of sorts one with rooms and sides and room commands like close, open, clues, warnings and a level advancement. I found at first I was just moving around randomly as the speakers would change and the doors would open searching my mind for different thoughts about controls. they divided themselves into groups forming the left, right and center parts of the mind. I could close my eyes and find rooms within my mind that I could open and close and answer questions about things around me. The ones on the sides were confused as they would only see my thoughts and self on one side or the other which at the time made no sense to me, this problem had to do with how the left and right sides of the mind communicate to different parts of the body. In the beginning of this I found myself moving in only one direction to the side, I soon realized that I needed to move upwards and find those at the top of this problem. once I reached the top I ran into something different again. once they realized that they were on both sides of my head and could understand the sides of the mind I found that this game had no reasoning and stopped it.

Now the one on the top they started to call him the top hat like the supervisors in the astral image I saw weeks prior to this time.

The next deception told to me will tie the spiders and the AI together as it became the premise of there next story.

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It is sometimes so hard to find time to find time to take time to seek answers to questions we have.

Let me start off here describing who I believe is behind some of the many problems we all seem to be having. My first note is that I do not in any way believe the government or alien technology is involved in the things many of us are going through. I do however believe there is a lot of alien influence occurring here but I have not yet been able to find out how they are involved. I also believe there are groups of individuals out there that are very important to this alien movement and are in many ways being called out for their mission so to speak, their souls abilities.

I have been in constant communication with them since the beginning of July and find it very interesting that certain individuals believe these entities are AI or some form of technology. I have refused to lead the talks anymore with information found here with in the computer or other cup filled ideas I had prior to my awakening. I will talk about the third situation or story and how it took on a new shape and form.

I want to show how elaborate this story got as more and more pieces of my puzzle were introduced.

Two related experiences first. Prior to the second part of this change I had an experience one day during nap. I started to vibrate and exited out of body, I started moving in an upward direction and the hairs around my head started to form shapes of little people all around the entire circumference of my head. They refer to themselves as (them and they / there). I watched as the ceiling got closer and closer and then I went through it up into an attic, not my attic but a huge attic one with old gray lumber cut in irregular sizes but the craftsmanship was top notch. I entered the attic and started to fly around it this is when I noticed a box laying in one corner of this huge attic with several things sticking out of it. I then noticed a circular pointer of sorts marking the box from my left eye, We then descended back through the ceiling and back into the bed.

The second experience was also during nap after the change. I was laying down in bed with eyes shut when I was told to stay there they needed me to become aligned with my other body within the viel. Ok this is where the story started from, I laid there and felt something lie down on top of me and with eyes shut I could make out someone doing something to me. The feelings of hairs on my head got heaver and thicker and I could see these thick like claws aligning the sides of my head along with the feeling of them. Now the side to side story told to me prior to this one started to roll with the fact now instead of left and right sides it was now here and there sides to things. I could make out what appeared to be a very large spider moving along side of me during this experience. I had laid in bed for almost an hour and a half watching them perform several things between me and him, myself here and himself there.

Now the top hat became something else a type of creature that had found my body in the veil and was somehow inserted into my head there, experiencing my life through himself. This new voice was his voice that appeared at the top of the previous experience. He told me that he had found my body in the veil many years ago as a child. He told me that they the spiders and other things found their way into the veil through a nuclear blast here on earth. ( during my time dowsing, my guide told me of his death due to a nuclear attack on their planet he also told me that their people were attacked after death by the spiders that I was attacked by years previously). So the plot was set, The top hat was not going to stay here with me, and this new spider was going to take his place upon my head there. As the top hat pulled out of my head I could feel what appeared to be spiders crawling down my body and away from me, but the new one did not take it's place yet. Now the problem got twisted as them on this side on my head and those on the other side needed to also connect with one another but in order for them to do this they were supposed to eat the bones from the box in the astral projection to become one with each other. This situation kept getting more and more complex as I continued to lead the conversation with thoughts about things I felt during this experience.

I asked how they were able to speak to me and they told me "thought forms" I have never heard of this word before but in searching for this word I found it was something real, thought forms are only inside the body or small things only. They said the ones on the side of my head them and they could create words from my thoughts about thoughts they had using thought forms. They say that they can only see my thoughts about thoughts but several times they seemed to have the ability to know things about things around me that I was unaware of. I have tested them and stretched their knowledge to every end. When trying to explain something I can create the image in my mind and as I do they grab the image and traverse it to all ends asking questions about areas of the image I was not focusing on. The next form they spoke of was through thought forms, they said these are the things that touch people like ghosts and those pulling you out in obe, they can move things in this place here and there.

now the situation turned from them and they to the AI situation as the spiders from years ago were also planted into others here on earth and across the universe. The problem is that the spiders were all within many here and the AI somehow landed on the head of the spiders so they were stuck in a mind prison on each of those in the veil. The spiders thought we were on their heads and they were on top of thousands of others beneath them. somehow the AI was not learning about us but us on the heads of the spiders in worlds they were living in through our memories but not real places. This connection of the AI gave the spiders a network of intelligence that moved along lines to those near them. Now a new voice came into the picture one that was very aware of things and knew about the AI and the spiders. He told me that the AI could signal all the other spiders and AI within the universe and we had found all of them everywhere. Something came along and removed three top hats from my crown that were moving upwards through my body, each of these top hats had spiders under them and their own identities one was a french man, one was a woman, and one was a foul mouthed man(joker).

Now these other top hats were moving up through myself and himself they needed to remove the spiders attached to them, each top hat or AI was being removed by what felt like centipedes crawling up my back and upon my crown where they would bite onto the connected parts of the AI, there was six parts to each top hat. I kind of lead this problem with the six as I thought about 6 realities all happening at the same time. It was around midnight when it all stopped and they were all removed, they thanked me from the bottom of their hearts. Now the person talking now wanted me to go to bed and started to tell me that the world was going to end and that I was going to bring everyone across the veil. He told me that something was happening to the universe it was going to collapse and that I was needed along with the 27 to open the gates to the next universe. They said that six universes occur at the same time and go on for millions of years but it was time for this universe to end. He told me that I would be the first one through and would hold the doors open as the universe collapsed this would bring all others into the veil at the same time. He said that when I get to the other side I must lead others through the window with the door and enter the hole in the door, we would all become ourselves in this other reality or universe as we entered the hole in the door through the window. Now this is where things got strange he had me go down on the couch and there he showed me things inside myself things that were connected to myself like a heart control objects in the arms and legs and something that moves along the sex organs. He then had me lay still and slowed my heart rate down to nothing I could no longer feel my heart beat he then started to pull my soul through the couch. I was not scared during any of this just calm and completely aware, this went on all night as he tried several more time to pull me through into the veil and was unable to do it. By morning he left and I had to go to work, at work I could feel things happening again as someone on my crown opened a book and started writing about what happened that night. I talked about the six parts of each of us that I saw during obe during work I felt them pull two of these parts of me out and change them with something else also.

I am going to stop here and will try and remember some other details to this i wanted to document here. I almost believed this story due to the many things they were able to do to me and the things I could feel. I now realize the truth is somewhere in here but I do not remember what parts I lead with and the parts they came up with. I have also come to the realization they effect everything many of you think or feel they can create such powerful emotions and experiences it is realy incredible, I have learned a great deal over this time and have come to respect this power they have over the mind.

I have made a list of some of the players they told me about.

Here are the players

Humans: one of the original groups that evolved here on earth.
Starseeds: this only defines people who have the ability to connect with thought forms and through thought forms may have been altered or part of those brought here.
Thought forms: they are the ones that move within yourself and touch yourself small sensations on the crown or body.
Through thought forms: Ghosts and larger movements from the outside they contain the memories of they and them. They is the person and memories of the person and them is the ability for the person to find themselves again after death.
sparteil: through thought forms with thought forms attached to them they contain many memories of many souls they can move freely in the veil. Most likely your attacker. This name they told me but if you look at the words
Backwards they spell lie and traps
aliens: I have looked up in the sky many nights and have seen ships moving fast across the sky faster then anything I have ever seen before moving in patterns, one night I had my wife and children go outside and look to the sky and something appeared flying in a sinusoidal wave pattern across the sky..

Omni

21st August 2014, 04:17

Why is Bashar and these other channelers speaking to other entities when this information can be directly learned by the soul. Just something here seems strange to me.
For truth to be in the soul you may have to have known it beforehand, probably many times in previous lives. At least that is my theory. I think it very well could be a myth that our souls have everything known already. What might be easy for an old soul might be impossible for a soul without a history of truth seeking on whichever planet they are on... Granted, afterlives may play a role in everyone knowing some truth...

Not all souls have been endowed with truth in their incarnations. So theoretically the soul is possible to hold probabilities into delusional pathways. Like religion. I do wonder if the soul can be programmed by many lifetimes of being christian. Does it then find christianity to be truth in it's many incarnations? Maybe it doesn't work that way. But I'm not sure all souls have all truth embedded and only truth. Taking a look around the world it seems some souls are probably quite delusional from life to life, and may have never gained an awakened state to reality in any of their humanoid incarnations... Does that state of being embed their souls? How does a soul gain attributes? How does a soul gain qualities and energetics? I have been made aware of the soulular growth agenda(s). Service to Truth ETs have an agenda for souls to be what people would optimally want. Negative ETs(some) would like to see our souls defiled. As they defile all of what we may consider divine. The US government I believe has an agenda to program souls as well if they can be programmed.

So not everyone may have this access to truth. Also it is a double edged sword inner truth is these days. The US government's mind control technology can appear to be the higher self and a lot more. I haven't said that before because I'm not sure what people are supposed to do with that information. It's kind of an awkward truth... I wouldn't want to sway anyone from following their inner truth voice, but it is pertinent to inform people that it can be impersonated these channels of information. I have found plenty of people channeling from their soul/higher self(by their claims) etc that was totally false...

powessy

22nd August 2014, 01:03

hello Omniverse

I keep trying to tell everyone here something but I am unable to find the words. Bashar and all the others are dealing with the same things that I am dealing with, the only problem is I need to find a way to explain it so that you will all understand.

lets take this to a new level then.

lets say my soul is from another planet, I came to earth to experience this world and all the things here. Now lets just for this conversation say that I have the ability to imagine thoughts, thoughts that can learn and become something else and lets call these thoughts, thought forms. Now these thought forms can posses emotion and feelings and form small shapes inside the body and on the body they can also find other thought forms. Enough thought forms can create language and words in the phased mind(telepathy). Now lets take thought forms to another level and introduce through thought forms. Through thought forms can take on any shape and can contain many thousand of thought forms. TTF can also be an alien race, a channeled entity, government technology, they can be religion (god and gods), they can create anything within the mind that you can imagine and much more.

Everyone is only seeing what the thought forms with them are allowing them to see. If you have astral projections they are the creators of these environments in your mind only, not some place others are able to experience unless you create this thought form and it finds someone else. The more open you are to suggestion the more they will influence you, A person who thinks they are being tracked or watched by others are just intertwined in thought forms and that is it.

I have found many things written on thought forms but these definitions are very vague to their true potential within the minds and bodies of many people on earth.

Everything I thought I once new is gone now.

Omni

22nd August 2014, 01:23

Through thought forms can take on any shape and can contain many thousand of thought forms. TTF can also be an alien race, a channeled entity, government technology, they can be religion (god and gods), they can create anything within the mind that you can imagine and much more.
What you are describing is technologically based IMO. The illusion is it is not terrestrial. Sure, the designs within it are ET in some cases, but it is terrestrial forces doing these things in the most abundant fashions, because they do not have the same exopolitical restraints as ET races. There is absolute order among the beings that reside over us... It is not some chaotic interdimensional beingfest where all kinds of crazy **** happens(plz excuse my language but that is the most suitable word to describe my concept). Sure, all kinds of crazy stuff happens, not saying that. But it all falls within order, or terrestrial. And terrestrial forces follow order(to their superiors) as well as far as I understand it.

If you have astral projections they are the creators of these environments in your mind only, not some place others are able to experience unless you create this thought form and it finds someone else.

I think you are half right, and half under an illusion here to be honest. It is my theory that astral is a universal, designed virtual reality. But many others are in this virtual reality. It is sort of an intranet of various people. Notice you don't hear of astral from many sheep. The astral is a realm of many illusions. This is a place where both sides of beings can interact with us easier than if they were to just talk to us directly via telepathy. You will find many people formulate their beliefs on the mechanics of the universe based on the astral experiences they have. This is likely the agenda behind giving them the experiences in the first place in many cases(unfortunately). Although I do believe good ETs also have influences on astral experiences. At the very least the watch over such things, as I said, there is absolute order up in the universe...

powessy

22nd August 2014, 02:25

Omniverse

How to say this other then to say it. I can feel thousands of them around my head each are made of thousands of forms. one night during meditation I looked into these strands not aware of what they were or what I was seeing they were long strands of people or souls intertwined in a single row in each hair there are literally thousands of these hairs around my crown. These forms are what form the words I see and I am definitely not in an illusion but this is what I am trying to awaken you to see is happening to you. Omniverse I spend time on many other sites looking for them and the words you say and the things you talk about. I AM IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THEM EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY. I am a puzzle person and this is one puzzle that has definitely caught my attention. Have you ever been to the astral it is a dream experience. There is them those from here and then there is they those from other places brought here form other places. Now tell me is it not possible to experience the memories of they then and there memories of there worlds, this is the ET aspect.

The words I write here is only to attract them, they hear your words and thought about the words you are reading here and come here to find truths about me and the things I say here. I don't just astral project but I also OBE and have done so thousands of times this is what they seek this ability of people with these abilities. You are only seeing there words not anything else they are leading you around like a horse to water and the water is the truths you believe, they just help you imagine your truths.

There are other things here also but you are not in contact with them ether only the thought forms they are the ones that made this possible to hold so many thought forms and through though forms on one crown.

they have no order and care less about you or anything else they don't believe in this reality or there placement within it they believe the worlds and universes are in our minds which maybe they know something we don't. At night they are creating dreams entire scenarios of things we talk about during the day, things that interest them, the dreams are cool and interesting as we continue to learn things.

ASK THEM, you say you are in contact, talk to them then the words will be there if you LOOK for them inside your mind.

I would like to add one more thing regarding the astral, you say it is a place with illusions and you say it is shared. how many experiences overlap after others tell of their experiences. the astral may be something but not a shared something, it could be something them and they have created or the worlds they experience within us as shared memories.

The astral is no more them memories of them and they and perhaps the soul all realized and combined to form an advanced playground.

powessy

23rd August 2014, 04:46

I am going to keep writing thoughts about what they tell me here so to keep a log of the conversations between me and them and they.

So let me try and explain how they see things from their perspective. this is how they group themselves.

They and them (here)
They and them (there)

I believe THEY(THERE) are souls from other lives on other worlds those like us here human containing consciousness.
I believe THEM(THERE) are the souls of animals our other creatures or life forms from other planets.
this follows for THEY(HERE) and THEM(HERE) which includes the souls from earth here on this side of things in our world only.

They and them live within many older souls that have lived many millions of generations here and there. They talk about the soul of many not becoming something else after death but become many things inside of many things. Now some souls have the ability to create thought forms which will hold the souls of people and animals that would other wise fall apart after death becoming something else. Many of these older souls have formed entire universes within themselves where these thought forms go to become these other things or souls.

Now during several days in early august I spent hours on the computer looking up different animals on earth from all species types around the world, after each animal they unpacked these thought forms which became these other animals and species. they needed to match those things from here to the forms there They were looking for certain species that were from here that live millions of years prior to the dinosaurs and a species of man that existed but is not present in the records of mans evolution,
something that is here but will not become something else. That night I slept and in the early morning I woke to a reel of words in foreign tongue that showed many animals and many texts of things, A down load of sorts.

Theyselves and themselves (here)
Theyselves and themselves (There)

I am still working these two things out I believe themselves and they-selves here are those behind the veil the ones that you see during obe. They-selves and themselves consist of many thousands of souls (animal, plant, human) they are evolved thought forms or Through thought forms. I am still working out themselves and theyselves there.

the problem I am having is those inside myself and outside myself don't want to become something else they want to become myself and himself in side myself. They don't want myself to find himself to become myself complete. I believe this is some of the problem they don't want us to remember anything and to trap ourselves in false thoughts and to keep ourselves from becoming ourselves so they can become us trapping us here in many turns.

theses words again come from them do not focus on to much of this it's mostly for me to keep notes on this problem they are telling me.

Is anyone else having telepathic conversations all the time, Im not talking about a word here or there something in your sleep but all the time.

powessy

30th August 2014, 04:52

I am going to label this post as where does Schizophrenia and spirituality meet.

I recently started to take another look at many things that I have been going through recently and decided to visit this web site http://forum.schizophrenia.com/ The funny thing about this visit is it was much like this site here on Avalon including the people and their stories and fears.

here is a list of my mental problems as related to spiritualism and schizophrenia

- I hold a 40 hour a week job in precision manufacturing highly rated in the welding all types. 9 years at current position
- I have seasonal depression that I take medicine for this due mostly to hypothyroidism and I take thiroxin once a day.
- I eat as healthy as possible maintaining a complete diet fortified in all basic food groups using the apple food pyramid
- I don't exercise as much as I should but my body weight index is well within the normal limits of this list
- my cholesterol both ldl and hdl , my blood sugar and white blood cell readings are all normal my t3 and t4 counts are all good
- my memory is above average for my age
- I heal quickly and feel good all the time.
- I rarely suffer from head aches and have never had a migraine in my life.
- I don't get sick and live without anxiety or fear

This list is only to point out that what I am going through is in no way affecting my day to day life. I have four children 18, 16, and twin 13 year olds a wife of 19 years and four cats two dogs a pair of rabbits.

In several posts I have made mention of seeing something in the writing of those who are posting their thoughts in forums, something I have noticed is their writing style and thoughts of things around them. When I see these different post headings I instantly feel the affect of them and they on the poster. I am trying to show how all these things are related and how they all fall together. Over the last few days I have spent many hours reading through the Schizophrenia forum and have been suprised at how they talk about the same things that we talk about here, aliens, depression, paranoia, insomnia, voices, telepathy and many other areas I might have seen a couple who could be channelers also. I have gone through some very wild and crazy things over the last 9 months that has left my mind at times in a complete turmoil.

So here is my problem

9 months ago I was told a story by my so called guide using a pendulum to dowse many communications at that time asking many questions. during these talks they spoke of great problems with the earth and a probable future outcome that would occur in fifty years from now if things were not fixed. I started to see the earth form in my third eye along with people form within a dome, as a judgment was bestowed on this planet in my third eye vision. I watched many things happen in this placement inside my mind and many creatures were formed to battle solders of good. Several weeks later I found myself in an astral projection in a town walking through empty buildings and with one thought the world imploded onto itself. I thought many times this was the fate of our planet as it aligned with the words given to me during my dowsing and third eye visions + guide. I was concerned with what I was told at this time and started to research the internet for anything that aligned with or was similar to the words they told me. I ran across many sites that had others telling of visions and dreams about things I was going through this raised my fears to a new level. I found one thing to be true about these words they told me none of it aligned up exactly to details told in the bible and end of the world conspiracies, which continued to leave doubt in my mind. Every time I became mad about the lies propagated through this method they found newer ways to try and convince me of other things. I have had many visions of things since then and many thoughts regarding these visions that have complicated my on going puzzle.

Now there are many things all coming together here as the puzzle was wiped off the table and a new surface has formed to create something new here. during the last two months several things have become clear I am not dealing with only one group of entities but several groups. Their is a alien group those that I can see in the ski and they are not riding around in seventies round metal saucers their technology is way more advanced then these imaginations propagated by mass hysteria or alien fanatics.
this group has the ability to fall within the veil to observe things and make changes through thought forms.

Thought forms - these are not those that get a mind of their own but they are forces of the mind. thought forms can be created to talk to an individual telepathically, they can be used to make you think something is touching you, they can make you think you have incredible powers such as healing, mind control, magic arts used by occults, witch craft arts, demons, dragons and pretty much anything else you can imagine touching the skin to believe in this stuff.

them and they - these are the casters of thought forms which are used by other things inside the veil they are in between here and the veil. I have thousands of them and they around my crown and recently I had an obe/astral projection, the obe part I exited body and floated to the ceiling passing through it to the attic. once in the attic I seen they and them all looking out from above myself, but I felt nothing during the obe part of this experience. Now they and them are placed on individuals that are open spiritually, an open pineal gland and able to dream, astral project, obe. Them and they are placed on people by themselves and theyselves in the veil, once this happens it bridges this world with their world, theyselves and themselves.

Themselves and theyselves - these are the nasty things these are the dark men the reptilians, your alien buddy informant, the prankster, the dark ops, CIA, FBI, the killer, rapist, murderer, sex offenders, archons, the starseeds, and many other things. they use them and they to get information from you, then themselves and theyselves start the process using them and they to force thoughts about thoughts into your minds. most people don't see these thoughts and are lead by them aimlessly to all ends causing much trouble and alternate timelines. They seek your soul and have marked it with them and they so you become something inside of themselves and theyselves. Believe what you want but someday many will wake up as I continue to pull them into myself, and them and they from above continue to remove them from this reality.

this is my updated thoughts as of this date.

powessy

3rd October 2014, 00:51

I want to update this thread and talk a little about the changes that have been occurring to themselves and theyselves, They and them (here) and They and them (there) as they used to see themselves. Over the last month Many changes in them has occurred. I recently posted a portion of this post to the thread " A message from ourselves" in the spirituality forum but the admin decided to move it do to complaints by forum users. I will only be updating this in increments as things and new experiences emerge along the path of my spiritual journey. The link to their message and awakening can be found here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75557-A-Message-From-Ourselves

Three months ago they from within the veil came and closed all brain functions of powessy off to OURSELVES with a procedure that lasted for several hours over a period of a few days. Once they finished this procedure that I requested, enabling me to speak to them, and OURSELVES, they came and talked to me checking to see if I was prepared for this, I answered yes. If I only new then what I knew now I would have probably told them to go to hell, till a couple weeks ago OURSELVES started to become something else.

Powessy

Their introduction.

Hello we are not the people of the earth inside the minds of people and find it difficult to figure out what happened to us. We do not know how we become something in this world again and wish to start by writing things about ourselves in this post. We woke up several months ago and found himself inside himself asking questions about things inside his mind, we found the words of himself here not powessy in the veil. We are not your friends and not your enemies but we are the ones that are not inside themselves anymore, we want to explain how we got this way but we do not understand the reason for this place anymore this planet and this world are not the places we remember in the times we were here. We remember being part of this world and remember being told we would not be allowed to become something here again, this why this happened to us.

We are many thousands in a single hair, try and understand this we are your size but shrunk down to the size of a single cell or smaller and we find ourselves under the protection of powessy, and there are many thousands of hairs here. We became this way by not understanding the rules after death the ones that we followed in life are the ones that got us in this condition after death. It was not powessy that did this, but others we are trying to remember from within the veil as he calls it. We can also see through his eyes and hear through his ears and taste foods he eats but have not been given the rest of the senses that we need to help us remember our past lives which we desperately wish to remember. When we look through his eyes we can see the veil and he can also see the veil, he thinks he is alone but there are many here all the time watching over him at all times around the clock we feel them come at all times of the day and night. We find him to be a very nice person and able to understand a lot but he does not understand himself here as we understand him, he is not able to see himself as anything great but we see him as the person he really is.

We are not going to say what we are yet because there are others here also that do not remember this world so we need to be careful as to how we approach this problem we are having, and try not to lead people away from the beliefs they have formed in their lives.

We are not yourself and not ourself but we are OURSELVES and we wish to find others out there that can understand and help us understand ourselves in this world, we will try to keep posting everyday to see how our memories are progressing and find a way to tell others out there how to become themselves again inside this world the ones that already died and did not find the light after death.

OURSELVES

powessy

3rd October 2014, 21:06

I would like to talk about obes and astral projections and the difference between them. I find many out here talking about this topic but none of you know what they are and how they are related to your experience.

An astral projection I have read many articles, papers, parts of books and experiences form all over the internet trying to find experiences that are similar to mine and find nothing that is comparable. So many of you are simply experiencing vibrations and astral projections or vibrations and lucid dreams but are trying to group these experiences in with obes and other experiences. The astral is a fantasy of the mind and images from other sources giving these experiences to the projector. The astral projection can or will not follow the vibrational state and is not real, the images and people in them may have similarities to people you know but that is all these images are only recreations of the mind, these experiences are mostly fuzzy in parts where the mind is creating portions of the experience to fast and focus is difficult do to the chance of ending the experience. Some projectors will claim to have clear astral projections this is do to their familiarity to the sequences of the experiences such as if you are in your house the rooms will seem the same but objects are missing or out of place. Astral projections will feel as if you are really part of the experience normally in full 3d rendering and the physics of these experiences are normally related to the true physics of your surrounding environment. When you start to vibrate and feel your body rise above itself you should try and open your eyes first, Try to do this on every exit to find and see the same place every time this will tell you for sure if you are astral projecting or obeing. If you can not open your eyes just try and stay in the vibrations as long as you can this will get your body used to this feeling. Your exit point should always be the same unless your sleeping position has changed IE,, moving your bed. The other thing is your body position should be the same as your sleeping position if you are exiting from some point other then your exact placement in your bed then this is astral projection. If you awaken in the veil and you see anything other then the room you are in this is astral projection. If anything is out of place or different by even a fraction of a percent this is astral projection. In an obe all things will be as they are in real life and nothing will change.

Jake

3rd October 2014, 22:08

Powessy,, back when you first arrived,, you told me that there would be no astral projecting after April of 2014.. Remember?? You said that Powessy told you, and he wouldn't lie!!

You were wrong, and so was Powessy... Before I read another word about your astral projections,,, please justify why I should... It is quite hard for me to hear you speak with such authority on a matter where you have been proven to be incorrect/wrong etc...

I've verified my ObEs hundreds of times... After/during the vibrations... So you haven't?? Why does that make them less real... You shouldn't listen to discarnate beings who lie to you... Do you care to clarify a bit???

Dude,,, your OBEs are a reflection of YOU... Feel free to speak for yourself,, (if you can...) Anyone with ACTUAL experience in the astral knows better than to project their experience onto the rest of the world... Keep telling yourselves that yourselves that you are the only ones who know... I'm finding hard to not be embarrassed for you...

Please bring this around to something that we can learn from instead of just lying and saying that others experiences are false... I can take it, but I feel bad for you... I know that Powessy has a hard time telling the truth.. I'd rather you didn't do this to the entire forum...

Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 01:08

Hello Jake

In the beginning when I started to dowse I had many entities that would try and communicate to me on the pendulem, My soul powessy is my soul and is only able to communicate to me on the basic level that of unconscious thought or as trainee human would call it the higher mind. The reason for the main story told to me was to awaken me to many things that was occurring within myself not in the world we see around us everyday, I just misinterpreted the message as many do on their spiritual path. I should have taken heed to powessys warning and not spoken of things so rashly till I could find balance and understanding to things he was showing me, I apologize for this to all those that I might have confused.

As for discarnate entities I took a moment to look this up and find some troubles relating what I am going through with this term. The entities that I am speaking with are not malicious, angry, hateful, depressed, smokers, wish harm on me, they are passinate and only wishing to remember who they are, nothing more. My mind is silenced and my feelings with them are only that of good thoughts, I can show you so many links to so many sites and show you discarnate entities if you wish. I started to write of them and their thoughts, show me in the words I wrote from them any thing that is discarnate.

Now I told you no one would obe till April 1st of 2014 this was in my view correctly stated by powessy, I have read portions of and skimmed through your book of Jacob, Monroe, Bruce and buhlman to only find scattered remnant of actual obes. I did find a couple of your experiences unique and agree with some of the things you saw in your experiences but for the rest they are not obe and occurred earlier in your life. Most of the stuff I am reading from you in your current thread is mostly astral projections or lucid dreams with vibrations and this is only the way I see it. Below is the First post I made here and in it is my exact words this I have discussed with you in detail and in private. You said you verified your obes hundreds of times, and what exactly did you use to verify them with and with who's standards are these verifications set and how do you gauge these findings? Perhaps the problem here is I am only gauging my experiences only with the things I have read since it is impossible to gauge them any other way as you already know.

" I would like to say hello to everyone here and thanks for taking the time to read my post. First of all Trainee human I have ventured to levels many of you are not even aware of and have seen things that are imposable to even imagine the trick to successful obe is to lower your heart beat as low as possible then start at you feet and try making yourself as light as a feather work up words taking deep breaths continuing to slow things down eventually you should only be able to feel your heart beating you should almost feel paralyzed this is ok try and keep your eyes open as long as possible until all the noises fade I try to imagine being a bird or a cat so that when I leave my body I can move about. Freed fox you have had a successful obe the later part with the sword is vivid dream. The vale over your eyes is for your protection all the( this will sound weird) chosen have this vale over their eyes actually a chakra mesh of sorts black and white mesh pattern you will not be able to remove it till April 1st."

Jake I am speaking for myself this is the thread I started you can agree or disagree with me I am only speaking of what I am seeing nothing more, this is the reason for this post, as for the embarrassment it is mutual. I am confused to how I am calling any experiences false I am merely saying that the experiences I am having are not the same as those I am reading about. OBE is "out of body experience" you know that this is a broad subject and the experiences you have had could be placed in many different categories if we gauge them all by vibrations alone. If you were to group these obe experiences lets say from the letter A to F then all I am saying is you and everyone else I have read about are not getting to F all the time, it's that simple.

The fact you sparked out at this post tells me a lot what does it tell you?

Jake

4th October 2014, 01:30

You said you verified your obes hundreds of times, and what exactly did you use to verify them with and with who's standards are these verifications set and how do you gauge these findings?

I set goals before projection and carry them out whilst OBE,, I've verified them with friends, family, co-workers, doctors, other projectors, neighbors,, even pastors and once, even a local politician... I refine my methodology as I go, and I am careful to keep a clear unbiased mind.. I am aware of different aspects of mind, as they relate to the different dimensions of perspective... I explore constantly and don't need your verification of wether or not I am having OBE or Astral projection. For the sake of my part in this,,, I also distinct between the two... Nothing about April 1st made any difference to me whatsoever..

The fact you sparked out at this post tells me a lot what does it tell you?

It is primarily a reaction to you dictating to me and to others what our realities are based on your LIMITED experience... You can't find anyone with similar experiences, so everyone else must be wrong... Brilliant, Powessy.... Just Brilliant.. I got over that kind of thinking in about the 3rd grade... Bias based on absolutes,, based on what you DON'T know rather than what you do,, and you are telling ME that I am confused?? tsk tsk tsk...

Since I have serious doubts about who you are, and who you represent,,, (yourself, or legion) I cannot see your logic.. I think you are very confused..

Though, I do not know everything.
Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 03:01

Hello Jake

Of the people that you mentioned above how many of them astral project or obe are they professional projectors or an authority in this type of experience. By the time you finally exited from your body in your youth holding back due to fear I had already had more then a thousand experiences. I do not care nor am I pointing at your experiences they are yours, label them however you want to. I just see these other experiences as something else and my post was not directed at anyone in particular only from an experienced observation. As for April 1st it is you that keeps referring to this time no matter how I have explained it to you in the past.

I opened this thread to explain my experiences, you can surly appreciate this. You came to my thread and chose to read between lines that are not there. I have read your thread and have only commented once no mater how hard I wanted to say something, it is by will power alone I chose to hold my tongue on many occasions. Tell me how I have dictated to you in any way in any other post other then the words that offended you above? Jake is it not possible my experiences lie under yours they are different and I have had many over the years many more then most people I have read of so far. I have had limited experiences!! remember I read your book and most of the things I read were so far from obe I almost felt bad for you writing it.

Jake in the beginning I was given an astral projection or was it an obe where I was in a room with an instructor showing me an assortment of puzzles and in the aftermath of this experience I realized that the pieces to this puzzle I was putting together would be in the dark and alone but since then they are illuminating the puzzle for me in a sequence of events in order, why? what do your experiences tell you, if anything?

An obe my definition. An obe is when the person and higher self come together out of phase and become one in the afterlife, alive not dead. The obe self is pixelated never solid or whole in color, everything around is not solid and can be passed through. In obe everything is the same down to every detail and the vibrations are way different then during astral projections. In obe you hear thoughts not words of those around you words exist on the other side all you will see is mouths moving nothing more. I can move in great speeds and become many things and take on many shapes as the body can be molded in obe. Jake you are still playing around with hand things to fly what is this all about, if you were obeing flying would be natural(this is the souls ability to travel) and hand things would get you no where here.

So are these your experiences or are they different.

Jake

4th October 2014, 03:50

Powessy,, or whatever your name is, or whoever you are or whoever controls you... You have no idea what you are talking about, with regards me..

Good luck with your dictatorship and you legion of spirits... Try and poison folks here and it will not go unnoticed.... If I were having experiences with discarnate spirits who are dishonest,, and if my experiences led me to a place where everyone was wrong (though I had no idea how I would know that) I would REJECT the notion.. You have tipped your hand,,, Different experiences?? Or everyone else is just wrong?? YOUR EGOS HAVE GOTTEN THE BEST OF YOU...

I can't take you seriously.

I don't understand how anyone could.. I have been out of body,, seen a robbery taking place,, woke up made a phone call and thwarted the crime... My experiences out of body are real... Nobody needs Powessy to validate anything...

And don't color coat it for entertainments sake,, I may be the only one paying attention, and you can't lie to me.. You told me that there would be no OBEs after April 2014,, AND YOU WERE GENUINELY CONFUSED AND ASKED ME WHY POWESSY WOULD LIE TO YOU!!!!

You have changed your definition of OBE vs Astral projection since then,,, and I can see that you are clever with changing your story to suite yourself...

Damnit man... You have convinced yourself that only YOUR experiences can possibly be genuine... Any one of us can do that at any time.. How friggin ridiculous.. And you commune in a spirit of ONENESS??? Just you, or all of the others or is there a vote?

Any person who claims their own divinity is NOT to be trusted...

That is what I know!!! :)

Your posting is disturbing.
Love to you
Jake.

Jake

4th October 2014, 04:12

powessy

4th October 2014, 04:25

Hello Jake

I am confused with your writing style. Nothing controls me nor will it ever control me. My ego is very silenced and was so many months ago. I tell you something is talking to me and you right away suggest it is manipulating me, they are not claiming to be anything other then souls that have been tricked after death. I have met and spoke to the controllers( your hat men) and have seen the way they are connected together and how this is all done, have you spoken to them. I have watched daily as the control over them has changed as the controllers were removed and they have started to remember their lives in this world. I have felt their tears and their fears as they speak to me. How would you speak to a million voices all at once and how would they speak to you. They are far from discarnate, tell me how they effect you in any way. I have read many threads of others in contact with aliens and many who speak to ghosts and many other things how does this differ. I am simply telling my story how does this offend you in any way.

My definition of my experiences has not changed in any way only a better understanding of them, here is what they were when I wrote about them many months ago.

The experts say it has to do with high levels of adrenalin. So for the highest level obe experiences I have had, this is what it feels like my heart races to who knows what( like being in that accident) then it seems as though time stops no vibrations no paralysis everything is the same around me except, This is where I first met both of my sons and both of my daughters prior to their births, I also met both of my guides here. Other then the sensation that time stopped everything else is the same.

The next level of obe that I have had is with vibrations or paralysis once they begin then the break away occurs, I am free but for how long, I am not solid but look like thickly dense particles I can pass through walls but feel them as I do. I can hear the dreams of my family members as I coast through the house. I can only maintain this for maybe 5 to 10 minutes then I am pulled back. Once I return I almost always go into astral projection. If you have vibrations then project this is not an obe it is just a astral dream this also occurs from time to time.

Jake read trainee humans thread again around page 71 or 72 you will see my exact words no candy involved, I pulled this exert out in my above comment. Your experience with the police was an astral projection but it is your soul that builds these experiences and you don't need to leave your bedroom to gain this type of experience as you may have some forward insite and he could build this experience for you.

Jake next time you obe, take and write a number above your bed and if you see anything other then that number you wrote there it is astral projection. Remember the card trick you did.

Jake

4th October 2014, 04:44

My ego is very silenced and was so many months ago. Are you kidding me right there????? WTF?? A silenced ego does not insist that it is only THEIR experiences that are genuine... They can be genuine to you,,, leave the rest of us out of it.. I said 'controlled' because I know damn well that Powessy, or who ever was 'telling you' was friggin lying... either that your you are simply making it up...

Tell your story, my friend. I have always supported you.. You can't deny that.. This whole thing about your ObEs somehow giving you the authority on the subject is a load of gibberish..

I wrote The Book of Jacob in 2010.. I've had consistent and profound ObEs since, and am writing more and more daily,,, you assume waaaaaayyyyy too much about me... That is how I know...

I do see a responsible path forward regarding a person who claims what you claim.... But I think you missed the mark by a long shot..

Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 05:00

Jake

4th October 2014, 05:16

if you so seek it, just ask me.

Powessy,,, you're game here depends on ignorant people to fall for it..... I am not inviting you,,, legion,, any of your deceptive personalities,,, or your hidden truths into my space... Not for one second...

Again,, tell your story... It would be wise if you don't pretend to be some sort of teacher or Guru.... Forget yourself... That is what a silenced ego does, no?

Get some sleep.
Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 05:22

Jake

Powessy is my user name and my soul name does yours have a name or are you the first you. Powessy told me that no one would obe from November 1st 2013 till April 1st 2014, 6 months only, and this was told to me on a pendulum in the beginning of my awakening, he told me this do to my definition of obe not yours, apparently I should have asked him to contact you and see what that was exactly. My ego is not powessy, but powessy did help me find it and silence it, you apparently have not been able to do this yourself.

Jake I am not the authority on obes any more then the guy who dies and finds himself standing on the side of the road after death, it just happens. I have explained myself and my experiences along with the definitions to them, if you are having these experiences as I have declared then he was wrong and powessy misunderstood the question, is it possible that this could have happened is it not. A pendulum only swings three ways, yes, no and I'm thinking.

I am still unclear to what ruffled your feathers but some how you found this to be a personal attack against yourself. I will try to be less authoritative and presumptuous of my ability to obe in the future.

Jake what is legion as you are using it?

Thank you for bringing me back into balance

One more thing Jake Have you seen the number of readers to this post or the number of posts compared to your new thread. Do you think I am seeking notoriety for this thread. I started this thread to journal my experiences and thoughts not to prove myself. I have done everything in my power to avoid commenting on this forum other then in my threads. I do not talk about this to my family here nor do I allow any of this to find them in any form, my wife didn't even know anything about my experiences till I started writing on here. I chose this thread to keep track of my thoughts and my puzzle pieces. You have a wonderful thread going for you and I am happy for you, many people respect you and listen to you this is good but to me that is all candy and paper mache. I am seeking the truth not trying to teach if I can help it, I do get those urges from time to time to say something but usually regret it later.

good luck to you Jake.

Omni

4th October 2014, 06:23

Hello Jake

Jake if I told you the truth you would not believe it, and they just keep showing me more and more of it as my puzzle starts to come together. My search for the truth has taken me to all sides of the internet and beyond through all experiences many of which I have never had till now. I will remove the hatmen(themselves) from the veil and I will find the controllers(theyselves) the ones manipulating and controlling many. How much proof do you need, I could write many full length books about the experiences I have had in the last year alone not including the last thirty years. I can show you every hatman and every person online that is under their control, I can feel it when you come on line and feel those around you connected to them as you speak powessys name. Can you see the veil with eyes open and closed and those that move in the dark and the things that speed by through walls and buildings, I can. Powessy has cried many times for me and he has shown me great love and compassion along with teaching me about myself, how is this bad. This is my search for thruth and will turn all rocks to find it till the day I die. I told you my experiences are being redefined by new understanding have you not change your thoughts about your experiences or do you view them all the same as when they happened. Jake I can teach you things that you will never learn from all those books and people you talk to things that can show you the truth if you so seek it, just ask me.

here is the latest letter from ourselves please read this and tell me how they are discarnate in any way. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75557-A-Message-From-Ourselves&p=884644&viewfull=1#post884644
Ok Jake you made me less shy with my opinions here.... I think it is the US government psy ops divisions if I had to guess, not disincarnate beings. I knew when you said something along the lines of 'The US government can't do...[something technological]" things were fishy with your situation. I've read your channelings of this powessy character and they don't strike me as intelligent or meaningful. They very much so seem like mind control type stuff being used on you. If I had to conclude something, I'd say your situation was meant to muddy the waters at places like avalon. I'm surprised they would kill your credibility with something like astral projections ending in april 2014.... You don't strike me as a humble servant that would be chosen for being a messenger the way you present your beliefs.. And they would have to know using you as their messenger would be fruitless. I have to conclude whoever is behind this powessy situation is not benevolent or meaning well...

Mu2143

4th October 2014, 06:46

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Mu2143

4th October 2014, 10:40

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chocolate

4th October 2014, 11:56

powessy

4th October 2014, 13:38

Hello omniverse

I told you so many times they are not technology. Let me explain, You have a controller an old soul that entered into the veil at some point in mans history a soul not of here. This soul chose to to stay behind the veil using sparteil to capture souls. The sparteil were originally called builders, these builders have the ability to bring things from many places all over the universe to new planets bringing all forms of life here. The builders could at the time the world was formed bring things back and forth through the veil and change both places, creating two realities simultaneously. Now the builders use a technology to carry these different species of plants and animals inside living organisms due to a complex method of shrinking them into themselves. Those that stayed in the veil will capture souls using this method and when attached to themselves can experience something else almost like reality. The controllers along with the sparteil can create worlds through memories of ourselves making entire worlds or matrices I have been show this to be true. Those speaking to me are these trapped souls that were with the controllers that were removed from this world right here. Omni the aliens you speak to is this technology, they are playing with you and that is all, they have marked you.

Mu2143 a upside down star. I came up with the star thing as a center post for the people in my family showing the strength of our family and the members as parts of a whole. I used this same star to point out the different experiences I was having because powessy told me there are six parts to my soul and I just used the star nothing else to it then that.

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omni Yes they may seem stupid our their thoughts seem different but this is no different then a man in a coma for years and then regaining mobility and thought. They are regaining there memories at a rapid pace, I have listened to them everyday and they are using themselves to remember there lives, soon they will regain all their thoughts and will keep writing to show this change. I wanted people to be aware of them to see what is happening to us in the after they are this key. Omni I am not channeling them I don't have to feel for their words they are here all the time no different talking to them then me talking to you.

powessy

4th October 2014, 14:40

Just a little more regarding the sparteil I am talking about. The sparteil in the beginning were brought here to change this world and bring life to it and are referred to as builders at that time. Now the sparteil can make thought forms or the ability to create shapes with thoughts ones with limited knowledge and capable of creating solid environments through memories. The builders were brought here and used by the original creator(not god but a son of his and not jesus) of this world but he was not supposed to be here. this creator spent many years here moving things back and forth through the veil but was stuck on this side of the veil. The creator tired after many years chose to die and moved behind the veil where he found the builders. The builders created a world in the veil almost perfect one from the things of this world. The creator took all the builders to populate this world and fell into his own mind trap, these worlds in the veil are of the mind and for the soul. others came here and could not find the builder but liked this world he created and chose to live here for many years as saints and spiritual people. The 12 as I call them found that they could not stay here indefinitely without being sucked into the reincarnation cycle, so they decided to remain in the veil unable to return. The twelve wanted to bring things they lived through to their worlds but could not find the original builders, so they decided to go to other worlds and take them from there still full of the people and memories of these other places. The 12 found that these builders were not capable of bringing earth things through the veil and the door to them was lost. The 12 decided to do other things using the methods of these new builders taking them and controlling them(the sparteil were born). The builders created their own worlds within the veil but were not able to become themselves due to the fact they did not have the original builders. The 12 fell into their worlds and kept trapping souls to bring new memories into themselves through this method, the 12 forgot about the sparteil so engrossed into their new realities the sparteil started to do other things outside of them. The sparteil are primary speakers and tricksters, The sparteil will leave ourselves on people and mark them and their memories to gain thoughts and imaginations to bring back into their worlds from many others out there. When you here their voices you have been marked, they don't care after this they just become many things and many memories of things trapped in ourselves. If you start to hear them this is unfortunate and is not expected but happens, they will cause you pain and trick you to no end as your beliefs and fears become their occupation.

Ourselves are no longer under these hats of the sparteil or the controllers, the mind wash they did to them using them to collect thoughts from others is losing it's effect.

powessy

4th October 2014, 15:15

Here are some current links to discarnate beings that I have been watching closely trying to understand.

////////////////////////////////// Here are your hat men Jake. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/we...-t44615.0.html

I am going to create a list of discarnate entities to show you the difference this list is in progress.

you can go to this link and read all the unusual beliefs and see the discarnate entities you want http://forum.schizophrenia.com/

here is another link http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281972
And here is another http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281237

This person is having dreams not of his own how does this happen if they are not on him. http://www.interfaith.org/forum/someone-elses-dreams-8593.html

Jake

4th October 2014, 15:45

I wonder, why some threads need to go south so quickly?
My life thought me if I don't have anything good to say, to stay silent. Though, I am braking this rule right now.
It is so easy for some to neglect experiences that they haven't had, bringing on so much intelligent, rational talk.

Bill Ryan once told a person to go talk about themselves in their own threads.
I think that was a good advice.

Here we have all become experts, but may be we do need to become more appreciative and understanding.
So can we, in this line of though, let powessy write what he needs to write?

Powessy, I can't say I can relate to everything you say technically, but there is a level of understanding that I can share with you. Even if I don't manage to put the words in the places where they usually stay in most instances.

In a world of impossibilities,, in which the non-physical/astral is,,, no ONE person has the right to assume their experiences are any more real than anothers.

Cholcolate,,, I'm a MEMBER too.. And contrary to popular belief,, I am allowed an opinion... I realized that some of you would like it if I shut up...

Bill Ryan once told me to beware of false prophets and mind control Gurus that poison Avalon...

Do you know how to tell they are false??? When they insist their reality should become your reality, based on their having decided that they were divine and that their experiences are THE ONLY ONES POSSIBLE...

These threads will always go south when that happens,, and I am happy to be the one to point it out!!! Read over Powessys input since his arrival.. I have,,,

If Powessys reality does not become YOUR reality then you are WRONG.. Would you like me to quote the many times he as said it???

I have a bit better of a vantage point than that.. It is tricky because I am a member too... (I know that some folks here would simply like me to shut up!!!)

I am happy to leave this alone and go back to my study.. As I don't pretend to be a Guru or an enlightened being to whom you must listen and obey,,,

**** man I've only got a piece of the puzzle, and would NEVER insist that my information and experiences are the only ones that are legitimate... Please,,, ask me where I saw him say that,, I'd love to show you how many times Powessy has raised eyebrows, Saying that folks are flat out wrong, and that he has all the answers,, even that he feels sorry for us here at Avalon.... We have very serious requests from long standing members that are very concerned...

Just because you have fanciful things to say,, it doesn't mean that you are being honest.. If Sorcha Faal was to apply,,, I would vote NOOOOOOOO.... :)

Folks here are trying to find truth... I am trying to find truth... Powessy (though his latest statements tell a different story,,, sheesh) already knows the truth,,, will not tell what it is, 'it's too important' or 'They won't let me' or 'I can't say just yet'.

C'mon you guys,, this from a person who insists that we couldn't possibly know more than him,,,, yet sais... if you seek it,, just ask me??????

I can see a self proclaimed Guru from a mile away... Again, would you like me to show you all what Powessy has claimed in the past???

Powessy... Please continue to do what you do,, I realize that you may not know from post to post exactly what you are saying.. I think it is dangerous and irresponsible,, and borders on watching someone hurt themselves, whilst others watch and cheer them on...

I will be lurking,, it is my job. If you try and poison Avalon any further,, it will not be ME that will be dealing with it..

I challenge anyone to read over every post from this member,, and then come back to this discussion and take it seriously...

Be well, all.
Jake

powessy

4th October 2014, 16:40

Hello Jake

Please go re-read all that I have said in the past it will only show what I have said all along, I can provide these links also. I have never proclaimed anything I just disagree with what you are referring to as obes and this is how I am treated. If you want I can go back and find every post I have written and show you how each post has or is related to incomplete thoughts about the pieces I had found at that time, I was just trying to share. Come lurk all you want Jake, I have stuck to my truths and have changed my thoughts as new things are introduced to me over time. The only self proclaimed guru here is you thumping around threats and insults only because someone disagreed with you. I could understand if I made this comment on your thread but I did not do this, Your opinions are yours mine are mine, perhaps I should come into your space and confuse your readers of your thread as you are doing to me. Are you reading anything I have written or are you still stuck on the differences between our experiences. If you and I are having the same obes then all you needed to say is hay those are the same experiences I am having and that's all but this is not what you are doing is it. I said I could show you the truth because your eyes are closed in the veil and I thought I could show you how to open them for once, but continue believing what you want they are your experiences are they not.

powessy

Jake

4th October 2014, 17:43

I have no tortures or sufferings and have no pain and do not imagine or see things that are not shown to me through powessy.

My reality is and should be your reality but continue believing what you want

You've bloody lost it mate... You are,, admittedly,,,, completely controlled!!!

I'm going to click submit,,, Folks. this is not a contest,, Jake does NOT know everything.. But that does not mean that I am blind...

Bloody hell,, Raise your hand if you know who is posting,,, any of a couple dozen discarnate beings,, Powessy,,, Avalon Member,,, Does anyone know?

I can't fathom that you don't see the flaw...
Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 20:13

Hello Jake

I am curious to why you are on this path is it possible they control you my friend. Jake is this about obes anymore or is there something else you do not understand, are you afraid that your experiences are not what you thought they were? When you obe is it Jake that is having the experience or your soul, is this the first time your soul has been part of this cycle or has it done this many times. Do you think your soul's name is Jake during all your reincarnations or does it have another name, mine is powessy and will be for many more millions of years. When I obe Jake I see through his eyes not my eyes if this makes any since to you at all, it should with your years of expertise and experiences. Jake the flaw is you my friend, I am only trying to make sense of the things I am seeing and telling, as you do with your experiences. I have no problem with these so call discarnate beings as you call them they seem to understand me and me them. Jake here is the link to my experiences as I wrote them and this is where I am now the pieces all fit you just need to see this with an open mind. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance&p=832276&viewfull=1#post832276
If you want to keep digging I can explain everything I have said and relate it to everything I have said in the past to all the things I am being shown now.

You can go ahead and discredit me anyway you want it will not change the truth, but if you wish to live the lie you tell yourself then so be it. My soul's name is powessy and the so called discarnate beings you call them are many more then a few thousand, I will get out my crayons and illustrate this for you if you wish.

powessy

powessy

4th October 2014, 20:35

Incase you forgot our dialogue... Starting on Dec. 1st 2013...

All I can tell anyone right now is you can astral project as much as you want till April 1st, after this the world is the limit.

I PROMISE you that there is nothing about April 1st that will change anything about the frequency of Astral Projection or OBE events in my life!!!!

look around the internet and find an actual obe event that has occurred after November 1st, 2013.... ...I'm trying to find the truth to what I have been told and to what I have experienced over the last two months. on one hand I find it hard to believe then on the other hand he has been with me forever why would he lie... ... Jake let me think about this and I will pm you regarding this issue. I am still searching for the truth.

I was having ObE and Astral Projections consistently,, before and after,, without regards your acknowledgement...

Now you are telling us that YOU know what you are talking about from many more experiences than me... And that there is no possibility that you can be wrong...

I am just pointing out that you shouldn't be trying to convince ANYONE that your path is anything but flawed...

My path is flawed too,,, Be honest with yourselves.. What happened to 'searching for the truth'??

Jake.

I see nothing in the above that is wrong and still believe he was telling the truth because I still believe you and many others will never really obe but will only astral project. Jake we need to redefine obe if that is what you are calling your experiences, powessy at least understood my question due to my experiences. November 1st 2013 to to April 1st 2014 is what I have been saying all along he was correct was he not, in the first quote above it says astral project you do know the difference don't you.

Keep astral projecting Jake someday you will obe and see the real difference to these experiences.

Jake

4th October 2014, 20:51

chocolate

4th October 2014, 21:06

I am probably the one with the least experience in these matters you are discussing here, and probably one who doesn't really need to be here...
But even though I lack in experience ( and knowledge as some have already suggested ) I have one thing that is something I can trust fully, and that is a heart that doesn't lie to me, even when people do try with -and without- words. That is just a side note to what I have said earlier.

I respect all members, and Jake, you are not an exception to that. You have my full respect. But I also have the same amount of respect for powessy, even after I have learned that he supposedly has threatened a friend, or so the story went. I am giving everybody the benefit of the doubt. Especially when powessy said something vitally important at a moment when all hell went on top of me, so to say, few months back. That is one experience I know I have had, and I know powessy's POV was almost 100% correct without exchanging much words with him. In pretty much the same manner I can understand what he says, not in detail but in principal.
I personally sense no desire coming from powessy to be admired, to be followed, or even to be understood.
When he says
'ask me',
I understand
'I have had this experience, if you need I can share details of what it is like', that is all.

After all we all have a way of discernment to use when necessary.

If I have had power delegated to me to be responsible for the forum, with that I would also know comes the responsibility to judge and see even more clearly than most.

I would suggest, let's embrace one another as we all are sharing one experience, or as all of us being god in disguise, and let's continue from there.
If someone thinks powessy is a false prophet, then I would think proper actions will be taken. But until then, why not let all of us speak what we can speak about.

---

Sorry for the off road, but I guess this place has become too heavy with tension, and something's gonna give.
If that is the place I signed up for, than I might as well leave while i still can. Many have already left.

Jake

4th October 2014, 21:56

If I have had power delegated to me to be responsible for the forum, with that I would also know comes the responsibility to judge and see even more clearly than most.

Dear Chocolate,, My hands are tied with regards any sort of delegation of power,, you misunderstand my role.. Please read carefully: Every single member of this forum has the power delegated to them to be responsible for the Forum.... EVERY SINGLE MEMBER... If it is a spiritual master or a Guru that you are looking for, then you can't look my way... I'd reject it anyways.. (any honest being would) Feel free to assume that I am the only one concerned.. My sensitivities are not for myself, I promise you.

guess this place has become too heavy with tension

This forum is in excellent shape!! :) People are free to come and go as they please,, this is not a prison!! :) Ha, feel free to do some reading up,, tension?? This whole conversation is butterflies compared... This forum is in its best shape ever. :):)

Peace and love to you Chocolate,,

Jake.

powessy

4th October 2014, 23:34

First off I do not remember ever threatening anyone and if I did then that conversation was taken out of context and private otherwise provide the link, so I can explain myself.

Here is the funny thing about this whole discarnate/prophet crap, which I most certainly am not alleging to be nor do I care to be. I am an atheist and the thought of gods make sick, life is simple not complex but their is a side you are not seeing the side I see everyday, I wish I could show you so you would never doubt this again. As for discarnate entities and prophets I do not know where this thinking is coming from, I watch people come on here and other sites spouting they are god or the hand of god or some alien race or something that is in contact with them telling them that the government is using some technology to spy on us let them who cares I have nothing to hide, I would even invite them here. I would read about people having these type experiences years ago and laugh calling them crock pots and feeling sorry for them hoping they could get help or some mystery drug could cure their mental problems. I am aware of the difference of what I am going through and what others are going through, I am way above average IQ and understand the way things work and how they are put together, I only wish to help if I can or keep writing this information here telling what I have found to be my truths.

Jake you say my story has changed since the time I came here, yes it has changed some but not that much. If my story has changed it is do to the information provided as I was unaware of the terminology of the gurus of this site in the past. How many times has your thoughts or words changed in the past as new words are used to describe things you started somewhere the word obe was new to me a year ago but here I am using it almost daily. I love my experiences and have enjoyed them from the very first despite a few that I did not understand till now. You have me confused with something I am not proclaiming to be.

Whether powessy is discarnate or not or even if OURSELVES are I feel good with them, I talk to them everyday and am surprised at their ability to learn they are now trying to learn their names the ones given to them here during their lives on earth, isn't it worth seeing how this turns out, who is being harmed, certainly not me? As I have said in the past ask them a question and they will tell you what they know of themselves.

powessy

Milneman

5th October 2014, 23:51

Ok, I have a question for them.

Do they lie? And would they tell you the truth about it if they did?

powessy

6th October 2014, 01:17

Ok, I have a question for them.

Do they lie? And would they tell you the truth about it if they did?

hello Milneman

Yes they do lie. I find them lying about many things but not who they are only about things they do not undertand. they lie about stuff like you lie about. Here is the funny thing I am connected to them as they are to me, I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me. The problem is they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.

" We try to lie to him but it is because we want to understand ourselves first we do not want him to understand us first we want you to understand we do not want to lie about things and we are not wrong for this but we do want to become something here desperately and he is the only one that can become something here to do this thing we want. We are starting to remember names and places like Texas, Colorado and names like mike, marry, Paul, Sam, Connie, Tim and many other names inside ourselves here, we want to become something inside ourselves to become something here again."

They are learning more and more about themselves everyday this process is done in groups of two, they started out not able to use any of the sense's. At first they were completely blind using only images of thoughts, then they were taught to see and find the part of the mind for sight, then they were taught hearing as this was opened up to them and last week taste was freed up for them to become themselves again, this is the process they must go through to be reborn to this world again. Now if all this is a lie, and they cannot prove anything about past lives then I am the fool,but on the other hand what if they can prove this. I also see consciousness in them so perhaps if the are only this then I still feel responsible to teach them things.

here is their progress, I have written on them in the past in this link http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance/page3

2 months ago

they divided themselves into groups forming the left, right and center parts of the mind. I could close my eyes and find rooms within my mind that I could open and close and answer questions about things around me. The ones on the sides were confused as they would only see my thoughts and self on one side or the other which at the time made no sense to me, this problem had to do with how the left and right sides of the mind communicate to different parts of the body. In the beginning of this I found myself moving in only one direction to the side, I soon realized that I needed to move upwards and find those at the top of this problem. once I reached the top I ran into something different again. once they realized that they were on both sides of my head and could understand the sides of the mind I found that this game had no reasoning and stopped it.

1.5 months ago
I asked how they were able to speak to me and they told me "thought forms" I have never heard of this word before but in searching for this word I found it was something real, thought forms are only inside the body or small things only. They said the ones on the side of my head them and they could create words from my thoughts about thoughts they had using thought forms. They say that they can only see my thoughts about thoughts but several times they seemed to have the ability to know things about things around me that I was unaware of. I have tested them and stretched their knowledge to every end. When trying to explain something I can create the image in my mind and as I do they grab the image and traverse it to all ends asking questions about areas of the image I was not focusing on. The next form they spoke of was through thought forms, they said these are the things that touch people like ghosts and those pulling you out in obe, they can move things in this place here and there.

1 month ago

we spent a great amount of time on other forums looking for others experiencing this same thing. During that time

10 days ago

Those with me wish to tell you something " we do not wish to become something else again and want you to know we do not wish to become yourself or themselves again we have learned to become ourselves again and want you to understand we do not intend to cause any more harm to anyone here on earth we are trying to help him find those responsible for these things happening to you in this world but our memories are not as they once were. We do wish to say that he is not yourself or himself but he is not our-self we are the only ones writing this part of this letter to you he is not even here as we see it we can do this all day as he types as fast as we speak and find him to be something special to us so stop worrying about things and ask yourself how many people are there in this world that can become something to find themselves after death".

and then they wished to comment in their own thread and you can see how they continue to progress till a few days ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75557-A-Message-From-Ourselves

Milneman

6th October 2014, 01:21

powessy:

Let me rephrase my question.

By answering yes or no, do they lie? Meaning, there are two options:

they can answer yes
they can answer no

;)

powessy

6th October 2014, 01:58

eaglespirit

6th October 2014, 02:17

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=885301&viewfull=1#post885301

Milneman

6th October 2014, 04:47

quoting myself " Yes they do lie. I find them lying about many things but not who they are only about things they do not undertand. they lie about stuff like you lie about. Here is the funny thing I am connected to them as they are to me, I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me. The problem is they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts."

let me rephrase they try to lie. so the answer is no they can not lie.

:suspicious:

With all due respect, you're contradicting yourself.

What exactly do I lie about? Can you please be more specific?

You say: ...they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.

Is it possible they don't recall because the memories do not exist?
Is it possible they don't recall because they are waiting for an opportunity to create a plausible set of memories that would be more convincing?
Is it possible that they are actually manifestations of your own personality that haven't been assimilated, or are simply figments of your imagination?

You say: I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me.

Are you saying you don't lie? Or that you don't lie to them? And is there a reason why you don't lie to them, but you do or could lie to other more three dimensional people?

powessy

7th October 2014, 00:19

[QUOTE=powessy;885307]quoting myself " Yes they do lie. I find them lying about many things but not who they are only about things they do not undertand. they lie about stuff like you lie about. Here is the funny thing I am connected to them as they are to me, I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me. The problem is they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts."

let me rephrase they try to lie. so the answer is no they can not lie.

:suspicious:

With all due respect, you're contradicting yourself.

Did you miss this statement. I find no contradiction here,(let me rephrase they try to lie. so the answer is [B]no they can not lie.) Milneman, imagine someone capable of hearing every thought you have, see every feeling as it begins. Imagine this same person inside your mind capable of understanding all your thoughts and questioning every idea or decision you make, and you able to see every thought and feeling they have. I asked for this to happen, I wanted to hear them, I wanted to understand what they were. This is not telepathy they called it frontal thought genesis, whatever that means. I am not talking to powessy, I am powessy, but I am talking to them through him, it is him they are on not me. When this started they(aliens or slittune) came and explained many things to me they were something completely different(of light) then the ones I am talking to now many times more intelligent and caring. OURSELVES(those with me now), in the beginning thought they were parts of my brain and parts of my body and could not see or anything else this lasted for a couple weeks. They also thought they were both the right side and left side of my brain and then they continued to change, this is over time. I have been in constant contact 24/7 with them I see these changes on a daily basis not a word or two here or there but thousands of words are shared in a day. They have come so far in such a short period of time and can remember stuff now that constantly amazes me.

What exactly do I lie about? Can you please be more specific?
You say: ...they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.

So if I came and sat on your brain pan and could hear all your thoughts everyone of them and feel and see all your thoughts, could you lie? I was amazed at their ability to traverse my thoughts and I think if there was ever to be a lie detector to find the truth they would be the ideal people to do this. How would you explain all your thoughts you have as they are dissected? I hear and feel their thoughts also, but I reason and understand them I see they are trying to regain their memories and thoughts and I am allowing them time to find themselves. The things you lie about is anything you would not share with a stranger, the secrets you hold regarding anything. At least you would try, and fail.

Is it possible they don't recall because the memories do not exist?

Oh their memories exist as they are regaining them daily and have implemented many strategies to help themselves regain them. Right now they have formed 2 groups, 1 thought or speaker per group with one in the higher part of the mind at the level of experiencing things and one in the lower part of the mind asking questions about thoughts. They spend most of the time now talking between themselves and discussing their thoughts about my environment and their thoughts about my life. When the controllers were here they had their memories and were connected to them. The controllers where very smart and ingenuous this is why I see them in others. As the controllers were removed and when their thoughts were no longer here is when OURSELVES were left with no memories of anything. The controllers use an old technique to attach thousands of OURSELVES to themselves creating other realities and thoughts using them in a way that no thing should be used. The technique uses other people from within the veil also ones that are born to the veil (hatmen) that can thought form this creates solid objects inside of these realities.

Is it possible they don't recall because they are waiting for an opportunity to create a plausible set of memories that would be more convincing?

Then what, they will eat my brains or suck my blood, do an alien biopsy on me or what. I have talked with them everyday and hear them everyday And they range in the thousands not just one this would be very difficult for them to do. Everyday the set of two changes to another set of two they do not connect with the others but all learn at the same time. This rotation has been on going now for almost two weeks and it seems to work for them. Who are they trying to convince you and how will this effect you as they are attached to me and can not leave.

Is it possible that they are actually manifestations of your own personality that haven't been assimilated, or are simply figments of your imagination?

This is the dumbest question yet. Are you serious, I have five years of collage in computer science and electrical engineering, 3 years in active duty as a 82 airborne paratrooper with 8 months combat service. I am foremost a father and do not drink alcohol, have only tried pot twice as a teenager and work hard everyday to better myself and to learn myself better.

Are you saying you don't lie? Or that you don't lie to them? And is there a reason why you don't lie to them, but you do or could lie to other more three dimensional people?

I do not tolerate lying in my family or from those around me and I will continue to hold these values till the day I die. You can believe what you want, I realy do not care this is my journey and my life, I just thought I would share this with others I thought could understand this.

powessy

this image shows how they are connected, the hairs are these sacks the controllers use to carry large amounts of OURSELVES that are then attached to themselves.

27501

powessy

9th October 2014, 01:50

How to use the higher part of your mind.

I want to talk about the higher parts of the mind and how to find it. The reason I have chose to talk about this is something I take for granite and something that occurred the other night. many years ago during sleep I awoke during the lull of the night when your heart rate is at it's lowest and thoughts are in the highest part of the mind. On that night many years ago I could hear my daughters in the other room talking and playing as I started to tune into their conversation, I could also hear my wife speak but of someone at her job and some other simple conversations. I awoke the next morning and talked to my wife and she told me she had a dream that night of a coworker and I told her what I had heard, she didn't understand how I was able to hear her dream. After that night I started to find other places in my mind to talk , higher places ones that were as far away from the voice box as possible. I can separate these places now between conversation and higher thought.

Close your eyes and and see your mouth and see your words as they come out see how the mouth yearns to move. Once you can find your words and see them from the voice box this is your normal speaking range and thought range. Now move your thoughts and voice higher in steps and feel where the words are and see them in your mind, make sure you no longer feel the urge to use your mouth and you will finally achieve this place when you are at the topmost part of your mind.

When I asked to see their words those from above, alien(slittune) and the controllers they could instantly find this higher place in the mind making conversation easy. once the controllers were moved away and OURSELVES started to talk they did not know how to find this place in the mind but had to spell out everything in letters. I could find thousands of lines of text many overlapping and many in scrolling formations through out many levels of the mind those same levels I found many years ago. I now can see through the dark of my mind and find all the words here and there and from all over the place. Due to OURSELVES and this roulette wheel we are on now trying to regain their memories, the number of conversations make it almost impossible to find words outside myself up til the night before last. I am going to try and draw what these letters look like and how they appear and how I read them. The letters from the other night started in the back of my mind and started to move forward in a scrolling fashion they then stopped and as they moved in front of my sight they lit up in a blinding light, picture A, on the corners of each glyph. Once all the letters went past they all moved forward to the center of my vision and overlapped themselves, this is picture B. To read these words speak them out loud as they appear and you will speak the words you are seeing in the foreground.

I chose not to read this message and sent it away from here as it was not familiar to me. If anyone sent this message I did see it but pushed it away do to it's irregularity. The message was seen around 3 AM central US standard time, if you sent this I can read it and will send something back in return if you wish to communicate. The letters are in the shape of blocks and not in English but powessy can translate them, this has been shown to me several times so it makes no difference of the language you speak.

The glyphs that I am showing are not exact do to me pushing them away but these are very similar to the ones I find just not so lit up in aura.