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spiritguide
2nd June 2014, 16:45
This article lead in is a third in a series on Nuclear Education it is lengthly and informative and will lead to the demise for those responsible... IMHO

Monday, June 2nd, 2014 | Posted by Gordon Duff

VT Nuclear Education: Undeniable Proof of 9/11 as a Nuclear Event

Unburied Truth Buries Lies
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Cars from 9/11 destroyed by Nuclear EMP


By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor and the NNP (Nuclear Non-Proliferation community)


“We may well be looking at the signature of a very “advanced” nuclear device carefully set up to produce maximum radiation.”

The documentary evidence below was available to all years ago. Some used it, what they could find of it. The entire NNP community always knew 9/11 was a nuclear event. They always knew nuclear weapons have been used continually as a handy solution that avoids the potential embarrassment of not having enough casualties or destruction during a state sponsored terror attack. Getting nuclear weapons is so easy we could be selling them here.

One Suggestion
We are beginning to enter new ground. We are now finding evidence that stolen Cold War era nuclear weapons slated for destruction were stripped down, remachined and built into enhanced radiation weapons of advanced design so they could be used with impunity, New York, Bali, intended for London, Iraq and Afghanistan, Damascus and more. Among the released information, the “leaks,” is key information regarding weapon design, more efficient fusion reactions and the ability to cover up nuclear terrorism through systematic disinformation campaigns through Hollywood that utterly misrepresent the endless capabilities and flexibility of nuclear demolitions.

There are also reports of weather manipulation, two hurricanes, which helped dispel radiation that would have wiped out half of New York instead of simply killing the thousands who have died “mysteriously” of “toxic pixie dust” so far and the 70,000 reported by the New York Daily News as having cancers any idiot knows are radiation sickness.

Again, with weather manipulation, we enter a new ground. VT has published on weather manipulation on several occasions, successfully predicting impossible storm behavior. We have seen typhoons blocked and hurricanes created and in one instance, the use of an energy weapon to stop a storm blasting a hole 30km into the earth’s surface causing a quake and nearly a tsunami. We will begin publishing these documents too if we have to.

This is no accident. Nuclear weapons are now the “go to” choice for terrorism and, as we had discovered long ago, there is no such thing as a multi-national terror organization that isn’t controlled by multiple national players using it to advance a globalist agenda. Anyone who conceives of something else is dangerously deluded and teaching military, political and intelligence leaders how to deal with this threat is my corporate “day job.”

THE LIE FACTORY

All of this is lied about, how weapons work, the effects, how they are considered and how many of them, virtually hundreds, have fallen into real terrorist hands, governments including the rogue elements of dozens of governments loosely or “not so loosely” controlled under the successors the SSG (Secret Shadow Government) has chosen to carry the mantle of its Gladio operations.

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Inexorable proof of nuclear demolition was always there and never questioned simply ignored.

Nuclear terror attacks are being planned today. We will see them in the United States. We have seen them before. No doctor will every diagnose nuclear weapons radiation poisoning. When Dr. Chris Busby did so in Iraq, his reports simply vanished from every place but Veterans Today.

If necessary, we will bombard the public with evidence until something happens. We have anything and everything. Funny how you can do something that should matter so much and watch it touch no one. What we will do, at least, is end the blithering in the counter-terrorist communities and the various activist and truth movements. My text ends here. An apology to those whose work is included who shun publicity or are included through quotations in reports that have footnotes omitted. This is unintentional and unavoidable.

Link to rest of the article...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/02/vt-nuclear-education-undeniable-proof-of-911-as-a-nuclear-event/

This article and the previous two are lengthly but very educational and worth reviewing.

Peace!

Cidersomerset
2nd June 2014, 19:06
I'm not sure whether it was a nuke, scaler weaponry, thermite, a combination
or something more exotic. What is pretty sure it was not Aeroplanes that brought
down the three main towers. I like Judy woods work which she began on 9/11 itself.

Tucker Carlson Reacts to Building 7 Implosion

BqrrSRps59s

Published on 7 Mar 2014


Alex Jones sits down with the founder of The Daily Caller,
Tucker Carlson and provides him with a hard hitting crash
course in the lies surrounding the September 11 attacks,
covering everything from eye witness accounts, the stand
down of NORAD and a bevy of alarming evidence surrounding
the collapse of building 7.

Cardillac
2nd June 2014, 19:20
I'll state it one last time and it will be my last posting on this subject: thoroughly read Dr. Judy Wood's "Where Did the Towers Go?" THEN comment on "nukes" or nano-thermite; "nano thermite" may have been involved in the collapse of Tower 7 but it does not explain the "dustification" of the twin towers nor does it explain the "toasted cars" scenario explained by Dr. Wood; please objectively read the book then make up your own mind-

Larry

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd June 2014, 19:32
That is a fantastic article. Can someone better explain this to me:



In other words, the nuclear “event” began by the violent upward thrust of the nuclear blast 150 feet per second. Its white-hot heat shot upward vaporizing the Towers’ interiors of concrete, steel, glass, combustibles—and people—into dust. Blowing to the top and out into the atmosphere, the tremendous energy flung its steaming load of vaporized materials skyward to become multi-colored pyroclastic clouds of dust and radioactive fuel. But the eruption’s energy, like volcanic lava and pyroclastic flows, sped downward vaporizing the buildings’ exteriors. Only mountains of flying paper and corroded aluminum cladding escaped.

The videos show the towers collapsing from the top. I still am not fully clear on how an explosion from the bottom can cause a top down collapse.

Kryztian
2nd June 2014, 20:42
Can someone better explain this to me:



In other words, the nuclear “event” began by the violent upward thrust of the nuclear blast 150 feet per second. Its white-hot heat shot upward vaporizing the Towers’ interiors of concrete, steel, glass, combustibles—and people—into dust. Blowing to the top and out into the atmosphere, the tremendous energy flung its steaming load of vaporized materials skyward to become multi-colored pyroclastic clouds of dust and radioactive fuel. But the eruption’s energy, like volcanic lava and pyroclastic flows, sped downward vaporizing the buildings’ exteriors. Only mountains of flying paper and corroded aluminum cladding escaped.

The videos show the towers collapsing from the top. I still am not fully clear on how an explosion from the bottom can cause a top down collapse.

When the building fell, it did so almost at the rate of freefall which means there was no resistance, in under 10 seconds. In the destruction of the metal frame which supports the building (even if the temperature was near the melting point of steel it was way far from it), the resistance of the disintegrating metal should have greatly slowed the rate at which the building fell - so the steel structure was destroyed just before the building fell, or as it was falling. What I think they are saying is that a nuclear "event" the shot upward was used to vaporize the steel, if I understand this correctly.

Matt P
2nd June 2014, 21:12
I'll state it one last time and it will be my last posting on this subject: thoroughly read Dr. Judy Wood's "Where Did the Towers Go?" THEN comment on "nukes" or nano-thermite; "nano thermite" may have been involved in the collapse of Tower 7 but it does not explain the "dustification" of the twin towers nor does it explain the "toasted cars" scenario explained by Dr. Wood; please objectively read the book then make up your own mind-

Larry

Yes, Larry, a nuclear event explains the dustification of the towers. Just read the article. It explains the toasted cars, too, and everything else. I was fascinated by all Judy's work, too, but you have to follow the evidence. READ Gordon's articles.

To Eyes Wide Open: Again, read Gordon's article again and look at the included diagrams. He perfectly explains how nukes below created a top down effect. Perfectly.

Matt

ThePythonicCow
2nd June 2014, 22:52
This article lead in is a third in a series on Nuclear Education it is lengthly and informative and will lead to the demise for those responsible... IMHO

Monday, June 2nd, 2014 | Posted by Gordon Duff

VT Nuclear Education: Undeniable Proof of 9/11 as a Nuclear Event

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Link to rest of the article...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/02/vt-nuclear-education-undeniable-proof-of-911-as-a-nuclear-event/

This article and the previous two are lengthly but very educational and worth reviewing.

Peace!

The first two Veterans Today articles by Gordon Duff in this series are discussed in this thread here: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71634-Russia-and-VT-point-the-Finger-for-9-11-Did-the-Israelies-plant-nukes-in-the-towers-Nuke-cancer-in-victims.)

This series is indeed very educational and worth viewing.

Bob
2nd June 2014, 23:18
I'm not sure whether it was a nuke, scaler weaponry, thermite, a combination
or something more exotic. What is pretty sure it was not Aeroplanes that brought
down the three main towers. I like Judy woods work which she began on 9/11 itself.

Tucker Carlson Reacts to Building 7 Implosion

BqrrSRps59s

Published on 7 Mar 2014


Alex Jones sits down with the founder of The Daily Caller,
Tucker Carlson and provides him with a hard hitting crash
course in the lies surrounding the September 11 attacks,
covering everything from eye witness accounts, the stand
down of NORAD and a bevy of alarming evidence surrounding
the collapse of building 7.

If a nuclear reaction was involved, there would be a specific measurable modification of the steel, and that steel still remains. In plain sight..

Here is a very nice 163 page article that explains how steel for instance can be analyzed and what happens. The article explains stainless steel welds in one example and how they can be analyzed in very simple ways to verify if what types of changes happen from nuclear bombardment. The technique is applicable to any other steel or material irradiated by a nuclear reaction.

The nuclear reaction's massive neutron burst from a nuclear bomb of any size changes the steel (and many other things irradiated).

If it is a real nuclear device detonation, the smoking gun is sitting there as irradiated modified metal and other substances.

Analyze it.

http://lnm.web.psi.ch/daten/Stoenescu.pdf


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2011/3/10/1299755860909/World-Trade-Center-007.jpg

ThePythonicCow
2nd June 2014, 23:36
If it is a real nuclear device detonation, the smoking gun is sitting there as irradiated modified metal and other substances.

Analyze it.
Just as soon as we can find an honest analyst, with authority to sample the material, who is allowed to publish their results.

Bob
2nd June 2014, 23:46
If it is a real nuclear device detonation, the smoking gun is sitting there as irradiated modified metal and other substances.

Analyze it.
Just as soon as we can find an honest analyst, with authority to sample the material, who is allowed to publish their results.

I believe this type of analysis is relatively simple that such could be done in any college metallurgy labs with a good electron microscope and other optical microscopes.

Surely there are students out there who would want to do a class project for their doctorate thesis - WAS the World Trade Center taken down by a Nuclear Device - surely their prof's would be excited to expose such things :) College free thinkers and all that

Rocky_Shorz
3rd June 2014, 00:10
Just like a free energy project, a move like this would cause the university funding to be cut, that's how they keep them in line out of fear...

Bob
3rd June 2014, 00:24
Just like a free energy project, a move like this would cause the university funding to be cut, that's how they keep them in line out of fear...

Metallurgy Testing Labs - (listing)
http://www.manta.com/mb_35_A62DE7N7_000/metallurgical_testing_laboratory

do the study, they will come.. do you think no student would want to be the shining star out there?

or some interested philanthropist wouldn't fund a study with two or three independent metallurgy labs ?

biggest current conspiracy question on the planet can be solved "was it a nuke or not", or leave it as conspiracy.. and pontificate ad_nauseam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_nauseam)

ref: Goebbels’ technique (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324305/bio) - to "pontificate ad-nauseam" - https://www.wordnik.com/words/nauseam

King Arthur
3rd June 2014, 00:26
That is a fantastic article. Can someone better explain this to me:

The videos show the towers collapsing from the top. I still am not fully clear on how an explosion from the bottom can cause a top down collapse.


If you wish to understand this, watch Dimitri Khalezov's 2010 video from #7 onwards
You'll find the videos at:
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri-khalezov-wtc-nuclear-demolition-full-playlist-t21675.html

Rocky_Shorz
3rd June 2014, 02:13
"A neutron bomb is an otherwise-ordinary fission-triggered hydrogen bomb with no neutron-absorbing/explosion-boosting U-238 jacket. Today's "clean" hydrogen bombs use lead jackets to absorb the fusion-produced neutrons, but they still have the problem of spreading fission-products produced by their fission triggers (the primary stage of the bomb).

What is currently proposed for future use in civil engineering is a hydrogen bomb with no fission primary stage. For example, laser inertial confinement might possibly suffice as a substitute for the fission primary."

anti-gravity delivery craft, that moves fast enough to chase down a Russian Proton Rocket like it was standing still.

Hitssquad talks like a radiation free Hydrogen bomb is old news...

does anyone think the US secret weapons program hasn't come up with an alternate fission trigger?

this post was 3 years after 9/11

this was posted by hitssquad: http://www.physicsforums.com (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=56356)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqLndV5pSI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSzHmHnR78

he debunked the ball, but spells out what really happened

if you want to jump to the meat of the message start at 29:30 then 51:30 energy weapon & Saucer hanging over an apartment building

you will miss, you can't walk on the end of the wings, they are way too fragile, and they sliced through steel beams...

ThePythonicCow
3rd June 2014, 07:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSzHmHnR78

he debunked the ball, but spells out what really happened

if you want to jump to the meat of the message start at 29:30 then 51:30 energy weapon & Saucer hanging over an apartment building

you will miss, you can't walk on the end of the wings, they are way too fragile, and they sliced through steel beams...

Agreed - perhaps the single best analysis ever done as to what the "planes" were that hit the WTC twin towers on 9/11 of 2001.

This same RichPlanet analysis was mentioned in September 2012 posts Post #42 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559250&viewfull=1#post559250) and Post #43 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559289&viewfull=1#post559289) on the 9/11 TV Fakery No Planes!(3:10 is of particular importance) thread:

For a detailed analysis of this footage, which pretty much clears it up once and for all, you need to watch this:
http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=108&part=1&gen=2

Awesome - thanks!

This provides a much more persuasive analysis of what we know about the "plane" that hit the second tower.

Matt P
3rd June 2014, 13:43
No, Bob, the steel is not there. Most of it was gone, turned to dust. There was virtually no debris pile. What little steel that WAS left was, according to reports, immediately shipped away (breaking crime scene rules, btw). In the picture you included, that is some of the steel from the outer shell of the building, the last to be impacted by the detonation device. Nobody is claiming a nuclear device would have dustified every single scrap of metal. I have seen the aftermath of many nuclear bombs and there is always something left over.
As for the comments about expecting colleges and their students to investigate this, I can only laugh. I suppose you think universities are out of reach of the fake reality control matrix?? I hope that smiley face means you were joking.

Matt

Rocky_Shorz
3rd June 2014, 15:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSzHmHnR78

he debunked the ball, but spells out what really happened

if you want to jump to the meat of the message start at 29:30 then 51:30 energy weapon & Saucer hanging over an apartment building

you will miss, you can't walk on the end of the wings, they are way too fragile, and they sliced through steel beams...

Agreed - perhaps the single best analysis ever done as to what the "planes" were that hit the WTC twin towers on 9/11 of 2001.

This same RichPlanet analysis was mentioned in September 2012 posts Post #42 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559250&viewfull=1#post559250) and Post #43 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559289&viewfull=1#post559289) on the 9/11 TV Fakery No Planes!(3:10 is of particular importance) thread:

For a detailed analysis of this footage, which pretty much clears it up once and for all, you need to watch this:
http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=108&part=1&gen=2

Awesome - thanks!

This provides a much more persuasive analysis of what we know about the "plane" that hit the second tower.

thanks Paul,

I'm sure a lot of the things I'm seeing for the first time on 9/11 yall have been discussing for years.

Avalon watched when I first stepped in to the discussions and saw the evidence pointing back to Bush and Cheney, I was pissed, a CAT 5 Hurricane rolling towards Louisiana, dead stopped in it's path, turned and took off towards Maine like a runaway train, where Daddy Bush had his home...

I was living in Boston and was out fishing the day Daddy Bush got hooked in the ear, the secret service drove over in a boat to ask us to leave, the captain pulled a gun and threatened them if they didn't get out of our Chum line...

they were just a few hundred yards away when he got his new ear ring...

the evidence that American leaders attacked America to bring us to war is unquestionable...


Careful investigation leads one to notice that a number of intriguing groups of people and organizations converged on the events of September 11th, 2001. An example is the group of men who were members of Cornell University’s Quill & Dagger society. This included Paul Wolfowitz, National Security Advisors Sandy Berger and Stephen Hadley, Marsh & McLennan executive Stephen Friedman, and the founder of Kroll Associates, Jules Kroll. Another interconnected group of organizations is linked to these Cornell comrades, and is even more interesting in terms of its members being integral to the events of 9/11, and having benefited from those events.

After the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC), a company called Stratesec (or Securacom) was responsible for the overall integration of the new security system designed by Kroll Associates. Stratesec had a small board of directors that included retired Air Force General James Abrahamson, Marvin Bush (the brother of George W. Bush) and Wirt Walker III, a cousin of the Bush brothers. Other directors included Charles Archer, former Assistant Director in charge of the FBI's Criminal Justice Information Services Division, and Yousef Saud Al Sabah, a member of the Kuwaiti royal family.[1]

Yousef Saud Al Sabah was also chairman of the Kuwait-American Corporation (KuwAm), which between 1993 and 1999 held a controlling share of Stratesec. The other owners of Stratesec were Walker and an entity controlled by Walker and Al Sabah, called Special Situation Investment Holdings (SSIH).[2] SSIH was said to form a group with KuwAm, and the group owned several other companies, including Commander Aircraft and Aviation General. In any case, the Kuwaiti royal family can be said to have benefited from 9/11 due to “The War on Terror” that removed Saddam Hussein from power. Of course, that was the second consecutive US war that Kuwait benefited from, the first being the 1991 Gulf War led by President George H.W. Bush.

Stratesec director James Abrahamson was President of Hughes Aircraft from 1989 to 1992, when Prescott Bush Jr. was helping Hughes lobby Bush’s brother, the US President, to lift sanctions on the Chinese government. Abrahamson became a director of Stratesec in December 1997.[3] He also co-founded a company called Crescent Investment Management (Crescent) with the Pakistani-American, Mansoor Ijaz. Crescent’s board of advisors included James Woolsey, the CIA Director for President Clinton who became a PNAC signatory and Booz Allen Hamilton executive.[4]

Mansoor Ijaz is the CEO of Crescent, and is a rare individual in that he claimed to have the ability to persuade several governments to extradite Osama bin Laden. After meetings with Clinton and his National Security Advisor Sandy Berger (who first introduced Woolsey to Clinton), Ijaz said that he could not convince them to work toward the extradition.[5] Additionally, Ijaz introduced the journalist Daniel Pearl, by way of a personal letter, to those in Pakistan who are believed to have been involved in his death.[6] Ijaz went on to become a Fox News correspondent, and he was a strong promoter of false claims leading up to the Iraq War, including WMDs and ties between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.[7]

Stratesec had contracts to provide security services for United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, where American Airlines Flight 77 took off on 9/11. Another client was Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), where scientists were working on the development of nanothermite, a type of explosive material that has since been discovered in the WTC dust.[8,9]

The Carlyle Group

In 1998, Barry McDaniel came to Stratesec to become its Chief Operating Officer. McDaniel was therefore in charge of the security operation at the WTC in terms of what he called a “completion contract,” to provide services “up to the day the buildings fell down.”[10] McDaniel had previously worked for the United States Army Materiel Command (AMC), located at Fort Belvoir, Virginia. But McDaniel came to Stratesec directly from BDM International, where he had been Vice President for nine years. BDM was a major subsidiary of The Carlyle Group for most of that time. When Barry McDaniel started at BDM, the company began getting a large amount of government business “in an area the Navy called Black Projects,” or budgets that were kept secret.[11]

BDM has had an interesting history. In 1990 it was a subsidiary of Loral Corporation, a company owned by Bernard Schwartz that was related to WTC security company Ensec, and Ensec director Terry McAuliffe.[12] Loral sold BDM to The Carlyle Group in 1992, at which time Frank Carlucci became chairman of BDM. Carlucci was a covert operative in his early career, and got his start in national politics through his old college roommate, Donald Rumsfeld, becoming Rumsfeld’s assistant at the Office of Economic Opportunity in 1969. Carlucci went on to be named Deputy Director of the CIA and Ronald Reagan’s Secretary of Defense.

During his first few years at Carlyle, Carlucci asked his friend Norman Augustine, later CEO of Lockheed Martin, if Carlyle could be included in a deal to buy the defense contractor LTV Corp.[13] That deal did not happen, but LTV was among the companies whose stocks were flagged for insider trading related to 9/11.[14,15] The FBI also briefly considered investigating Stratesec for insider trading related to 9/11, due to an SEC referral of suspicious accounts. But since the people involved were considered to not have any “ties to terrorism or other negative information,” an investigation into Stratesec was not pursued.[16] Putnam Investments, a subsidiary of WTC impact zone tenant Marsh & McLennan, was one of Stratesec’s investors.

During the time that Stratesec executive McDaniel worked for them, the Caryle Group began to add some very powerful people to their leadership group. One such figure was James Baker, who went to Princeton with Rumsfeld and Carlucci, and who was White House Chief of Staff, and Secretary of the Treasury, for Reagan. Baker was also George H.W. Bush’s campaign manager and Secretary of State, and Bush’s White House Chief of Staff again in his last government position. Baker became a partner at Carlyle just two weeks after the February 1993 bombing of the WTC.

Earlier in his career, Baker had worked in President Ford’s department of Commerce, along with WTC impact zone tenant Joseph Kasputys. And Baker was a longtime, close friend of Raymond Hill, an elite Texan who owned the mafia and CIA-connected Mainland Savings. American taxpayers shelled out approximately $500 million when Mainland failed in 1986. Investigators have since discovered that Mainland, like a number of other savings and loans that failed in the late 1980s, was a vehicle for CIA and mafia activities.[17]

Baker is also remembered as the one person most responsible for changing the outcome of the 2000 presidential election, in favor of George W. Bush. As Congressman John Conyers wrote: “Mr. Baker will be forever remembered for his ultimately successful efforts to shut down the counting of votes in the 2000 Florida election.”[18]

On September 11, 2001, Baker was at the Ritz-Carlton in Washington DC, for the annual investor conference of the Carlyle Group. Also present with Baker was Carlucci, "representatives of the bin Laden family,” and George H. W. Bush.[19] Carlyle had been doing business with the bin Laden family since the early 1990s.

Baker’s grandfather started the law firm Baker Botts, which had offices in Saudi Arabia and which, after 9/11, represented the Saudi Arabian government in a lawsuit filed by families of those killed and injured in the attacks. The Saudi connection is interesting considering that Carlyle owned, through BDM International, the Vinnell Corporation, a mercenary operation that had extensive contracts in the Middle East since 1975, training the Saudi Arabian National Guard and also training Turkish security forces.

Vinnell was considered “by some experts to be a CIA front.”[20] Of course Frank Carlucci was Deputy Director of the CIA, and George H.W. Bush, who was Baker’s boss for many years, was in the CIA for a majority of his career.[21] Perhaps as a result, in 1995 Vinnell was reported to be one of the first targets of al Qaeda, in Saudi Arabia.

BDM, Vinnell’s parent company, was sold to TRW in 1997. Directors at BDM at the time included Carlyle Group executives and a former assistant to Henry Kissinger, Philip Odeen, who went on to become the CEO of TRW. Directors at TRW at the same time included Robert M. Gates, former Director of Central Intelligence and current Secretary of Defense. Arden Bement, who was appointed by George W. Bush to lead the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) one month after the 9/11 attacks, had left his position as TRW Vice President in 1992, moving to Purdue University in the interim.

In 1998, at the time that Barry McDaniel moved to Stratesec, TRW was working closely with Lockheed Martin, the company that sub-contracted the WTC security job to Ensec.[22] Stratesec and Ensec, along with E.J. Electric and Electronic Systems Associates, worked to build the security system that was in place at the WTC when the buildings were destroyed. All four of these companies had done significant work in Saudi Arabia before working at the WTC.[23]

Marvin Bush was a director of Stratesec from 1993 to 2000. It was during that time that Kroll and Stratesec planned and executed the extensive rebuilding of the security systems at the WTC complex. As his stint with Stratesec ended, Marvin Bush became a principal in the company HCC Insurance, one of the insurance carriers for the World Trade Center.

SAIC

Marvin Bush was the cofounder of Winston Partners in 1993, a company that benefited greatly from the War on Terror. In 2000, Winston Partners invested heavily in a defense contractor called AMSEC that was 55% owned by Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC). It has been noted that SAIC was not only a major contributor to the NIST WTC report, it was also a company that had expertise in nanothermites, explosive materials which were found in the WTC dust as mentioned earlier.[24]

Founded by a scientist from Los Alamos National Laboratory, SAIC had a long history at the WTC, having evaluated the basement levels of the buildings as a potential terrorist target in 1986.[25] Interestingly, the company was hired to investigate the 1993 bombing of the WTC, an event that was “remarkably like the one which” they had foreseen in 1986.[26] In fact, SAIC later boasted that -- “After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible.”[27]

After 9/11, SAIC supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the WTC investigation conducted NIST. At the same time, “SAIC personnel were instrumental in pressing the case that weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, and that war was the only way to get rid of them.”[28]

SAIC was also a pioneer in the intelligence contracting business, as a founding member of the Security Affairs Support Association in 1979, along with companies like TRW, Booz Allen Hamilton, Lockheed and Hughes Aircraft. A special taskforce of the Defense Science Board, which was led in 1993 by BDM’s Philip Odeen, recommended a vast increase in the outsourcing of intelligence, which all these companies ended up benefiting from greatly.

Today a majority of government intelligence work is outsourced, and SAIC is known first and foremost as an intelligence contractor. SAIC sells expertise about weapons, about homeland security, about surveillance, about computer systems, about “information dominance” and “information warfare,” and has been awarded more individual government contracts than any other private company in America. In fact, the company was paid huge sums to rebuild the NSA and FBI systems that supposedly failed before 9/11.[29]

SAIC is integral to the operations of all the major intelligence collection agencies, particularly the National Security Agency (NSA), the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the CIA. In fact, the CIA relies on SAIC to spy in its own workforce.[30] But SAIC has also played an integral role in the “War on Terror”, and was even responsible for capturing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It was SAIC staff and technology that “tease[ed] out crucial clues about Mohammed's activities from intercepted text messages that he sent to his al Qaeda operatives using as many as 20 different cell phones.”[31]

In an interesting coincidence, while the Carlyle/BDM subsidiary Vinnell Corp was training the Saudi Arabian National Guard, SAIC was training the Saudi Navy and bringing Saudi military personnel to company headquarters in San Diego for further study. Simultaneously, Booz Allen Hamilton was managing the Saudi Marine Corps and running the Saudi Armed Forces Staff College.[32] Vinnell now works with SAIC to train the Iraqi military.[33]

SAIC employees or board members have included Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, former Deputy Director of CIA Bobby Ray Inman, former NYC OEM director Jerome Hauer, anthrax attack suspect Stephen Hatfill, former CIA Director John Deutch, and Lawrence B. Prior, a military intelligence officer and former TRW executive. Also formerly with SAIC, during the time of the planning and implementation of the 9/11 attacks, was Dick Cheney’s undersecretary of defense, Duane Andrews.

Duane Andrews considered Dick Cheney to be his personal, lifelong hero.[34] While he worked for Cheney, Andrews supervised Stephen Cambone, who went on to become Donald Rumsfeld’s “special assistant.” When Andrews left the Pentagon in 1993, he became chief operating officer for SAIC, where he supervised “much of the company's work on secret projects with defense and national security agencies.”[35] Andrews and Cambone both later hired on to the British intelligence firm Qinetiq, along with George Tenet. Coincidentally, The Carlyle Group was a major shareholder in Qinetiq as of February 2003.

Halliburton and BCCI

When we examine who had the greatest motive for the attacks of 9/11, we need to look at who most benefited from those events. Certainly SAIC and other companies like Maurice Greenberg’s American International Group (AIG) are among those who profited the most after 9/11. But The Carlyle Group and oil companies like Halliburton led the field in terms of profiting from 9/11.

Dick Cheney was hired as CEO of Halliburton in 1995, despite having no practical business leadership experience. He quickly went on to add new directors that shared his political convictions, including Lawrence Eagleburger, the former Secretary of State under the first President George Bush. Eagleburger also served as a director of Kissinger Associates, and on the board of Dresser Industries, where George H.W. Bush got his start. Others Cheney added to his team included Ray Hunt, of Dallas-based Hunt Oil, a longtime supporter of the Bush clan.

Cheney named Charles DiBona as one of his first appointees to the board of Halliburton. DiBona had been the Deputy Director of the White House Policy Office and Special Assistant to President Nixon in the early 1970s. DiBona was also an associate of WTC south tower impact zone tenant Joseph Kasputys, at the Logistics Management Institute, and DiBona and Kasputys had previously worked together during the Arab Oil Embargo as representatives of the emerging US Department of Energy (DOE). In fact, DiBona was one of the first US “Energy Czars.”

Like DiBona, Joseph Kasputys was in the US Navy for 20 years, and both of them retired as Commanders. They then both worked for the predecessor agencies of the DOE, and Kasputys worked for the Department of Defense as well. In 1975, Kasputys was appointed by President Ford to be Assistant Secretary of Commerce. As stated in the review of tenants in the towers, Kasptuys went on to run a large corporation called Primark that had offices in both towers on 9/11. One of the subsidiaries of Primark, The Analytical Sciences Corporation (TASC), worked with “so-called 'black' or top secret programs.” TASC also worked closely with the National Institute of Standards and Technology.[36]

After his government service, DiBona went on to lead the American Petroleum Institute, the petroleum industry's national trade association, in a position he held for nineteen years. During that time, DiBona was also a director of First American Bancshares, the American bank secretly owned by the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI).

BCCI is significant relative to 9/11 because it was involved in funding terrorists in the late 1980s and was linked to the Pakistani intelligence network, from which several alleged 9/11 conspirators came, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In fact, Time magazine reported, relative to BCCI, that -- "You can't draw a line separating the bank's black operatives and Pakistan's intelligence services."[37]

BCCI was also clearly connected to the mafia. Munther Bilbeisi, a notorious BCCI representative who was finally indicted for tax fraud in 1991, was associated with several mafia families in New Jersey, including the DeCavalcante and Luchese crime families.[38]

More importantly, there were indications that the CIA was involved in the founding of BCCI.[39] There were also connections between George H. W. Bush, who was CIA director during BCCI’s heyday, and George W. Bush, through Harken Energy. But other US government representatives helped BCCI too, simply by not doing anything or allowing BCCI to make acquisitions in the US when they should have closed the operation down. For example, at the time that BCCI was first publicly suspected of wrongdoing, in 1988, both the US Department of Justice and the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) were hesitant to investigate or prosecute, despite the fact that there were signs that both of these organizations already knew of BCCI’s fraud. When the Fed finally did take its first disciplinary action, it appeared that BCCI had a friend at the top, in that one member abstained from a critical vote. That member was the chairman, Alan Greenspan. Greenspan later explained that he had socialized with BCCI attorney and First American Bancshares President, Robert Altman.[40]

Kissinger and his associates

Henry Kissinger and his associates were also connected to BCCI in several ways, although he refused to share documents with the related Senate investigation. For example, Sergio Correa da Costa, who served as Brazil’s Ambassador to the US in the mid-1980s (note that Ensec was a Brazilian company), worked for Kissinger’s consulting company, Kissinger Associates, and was also a nominee shareholder for BCCI. And as early as 1971, Kissinger was linked to BCCI through the Pakistanis that arranged for his first visit to China.[41] At the time, Pakistrani agents who later became BCCI representatives were involved in fooling journalists into thinking Kissinger was in Pakistan instead of China. Kissinger returned to China many times and on occasion took very close friends and business associates along with him, most notably Maurice Greenberg of AIG, who traveled extensively with Kissinger.[42]

From 1985 to 1990, a client of Kissinger Associates, Banca Nazionale del Lavoro (BNL) provided $4 billion in unreported loans to Saddam Hussein and his government in Iraq. Henry Kissinger was on the International Advisory Board of BNL during that same time period. Kissinger and his leading assistants Brent Scowcroft and Lawrence Eagleburger were investigated in this matter by the House Banking Committee just as the first Gulf War was ending.[43]

But the numerous connections between assistants and associates of Kissinger, and the most significant events of 9/11, are astounding. To begin with, Kissinger, who is considered by some to be an international terrorist due to his bombing of Cambodia, his role in the 1973 coup in Chile, and other atrocities, was the Bush Administration’s first choice to lead the 9/11 Commission. Although he later resigned from the Commission to avoid exposing his client list, Kissinger’s closest friends and aides played significant roles with regard to 9/11.
L. Paul Bremer, the managing director at Kissinger Associates from 1989 to 2000, left there to take a job with WTC impact zone tenant Marsh & McLennan, and then played a leading role in establishing the official myth of 9/11.
Peter Rodman, PNAC member and Assistant Secretary of Defense on 9/11, hosted meetings with Pakistani ISI General Ahmed the week before 9/11, and had previously been a Special Assistant to Kissinger for eight years.[44]
Joseph Kasputys, south tower impact zone tenant, worked with Kissinger in the Ford Administration (along with Cheney, Greenspan, DiBona, and Rumsfeld).[45]
Kissinger is also closely associated with several 9/11 Commissioners, including his long-time National Security Council assistant John Lehman, and his fellow Hollinger board member James R. Thompson.
And Phillip Odeen of BDM, who was Barry McDaniel’s boss until McDaniel left to lead WTC security company Stratesec, was a Kissinger assistant for several years.

There was also Renato Ruggiero of Kissinger Associates. Mr. Ruggiero was present on 9/11 in the sense that he was on the International Advisory Board for Salomon Smith Barney (SSB), the company that occupied all but ten of the 47 floors in WTC building 7.[46] SSB even shared the all-important 23rd floor with the New York City OEM. More striking is the fact that Donald Rumsfeld was the chairman of that SSB board, and Dick Cheney was a board member as well. Rumsfeld served as chairman of the SSB International Advisory Board since its inception in 1999, but had to resign in 2001 when he was confirmed as George W. Bush’s Secretary of Defense, and Cheney resigned at the same time when he became Vice President.

Another interesting coincidence is that Global Crossing was brought public in 1998 by SSB. Global Crossing was the company that Ensec director McAuliffe made a fortune on, when he purchased $100,000 in stock before the company went public and cashed out several years later for $18 million. Richard Perle was a lobbyist for Global Crossing.

On 9/11/01, Salomon Smith Barney’s parent company was Citigroup. Citicorp was the nation’s largest bank in 1990, but dropped half of its value from the summer to the winter of that year due to the S&L scandal. The company was saved by Prince Alwaleed of Saudi Arabia, who pumped an initial $590 MM into the company in a deal brokered by The Carlyle Group. It is believed that the money, and more, came from BCCI as it was dissolving.[47]

Therefore, when Salomon Smith Barney was taken over by Citigroup in 1998, it was taken over in part by Saudi owners who were apparently redistributing the funding and networks of BCCI. Rumsfeld and Cheney entered the picture less than a year later, in May 1999. Jules Kroll, the founder of the WTC security design firm, and Rudy Giuliani, who was a former Department of Justice official, were responsible for investigating organized crime and BCCI, and were well aware of the extent of those networks ten years prior to that. Others like them, who brought the late indictments against BCCI, were leaders of the US Department of Justice.

Stratesec was at the WTC, and therefore, through Barry McDaniel and the Bush family, the influence of The Carlyle Group was present as well. In a sense, Rumsfeld and Cheney were also present at the WTC, because both of them were on the advisory board of Salomon Smith Barney. And SAIC was at the WTC on 9/11 too, as it was one of the first companies to show up at Ground Zero on that day. That fact will be discussed in the third installment of the essay series entitled Demolition Access to the WTC.

As for Kissinger, within hours of the events of 9/11 he was writing an opinion piece for the Washington Post. In it, he claimed to have thorough knowledge of what would be required to pull off such a coordinated set of attacks. Kissinger went on to inform the American public of what must happen next: “the destruction of the system that is responsible.”[48] No one can argue with that sentiment. But to this day, no one can accurately describe the terrorist system that was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, let alone destroy it.

What we can say today, with certainty, is that if we are to believe that al Qaeda orchestrated the events of 9/11 then we do not know much about al Qaeda. Alternatively, there was a far more powerful and highly connected system of intelligence and financial networks, represented by organizations like Carlyle, Kissinger, SAIC and Halliburton, that converged upon the events of 9/11. That other system continues to profit from the 9/11 attacks, and uses the fear and rage generated by al Qaeda-attributed terrorism to its own advantage. Understanding and destroying terrorism might simply be a matter of understanding and destroying the organizations that continue to profit from 9/11.

Endnotes
1. Stratesec Incorporated, Notice of Annual Meeting of Shareholders, December 23, 2002
2. Securities and Exchange Commission document, Kuwam Corp · SC 13G · Stratesec Inc · On 2/19/98 http://www.secinfo.com/dS7kv.7v.htm
3. Stratesec Incorporated, Notice of Annual Meeting of Shareholders, December 23, 2002
4. Sourcewatch webpage for Crescent Investments, http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Crescent_Technology_Ventures_PLC
5. Sourcewatch webpage for Mansoor Ijaz/Sudan, http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mansoor_Ijaz/Sudan
6. Chaim Kupferberg, There’s Something About Omar: Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11, Centre for Research on Globalization, October 21, 2003, http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/KUP310A.pdf
7. Mansoor Ijaz, Hand in Glove: Iraq and al Qaeda, National Review Online, February 18, 2003, http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzlhNDE4YTkyODA2NGE1ZjJlY2UwMjBmNWQ2YTk0NDQ=
8. Danen, W.C., Jorgensen, B.S., Busse, J.R., Ferris, M.J. and Smith, B.L. "Los Alamos Nanoenergetic Metastable Intermolecular Composite (Super Thermite) Program," 221st ACS National Meeting, San Diego, CA, 1-5 April 2001.
9. Niels H. Harrit, et al, Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, The Open Chemical Physics Journal, Vol 2, 2009, doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007, http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/000000...
10. History Commons page for Stratesec, http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=stratesec
11. Dan Briody, The Iron Triangle: Inside the Secret World of The Carlyle Group, Wiley publishers, 2003, p35
12. Kevin R. Ryan, Demolition Access To The WTC Towers: Part Two – Security, Scoop Independent News, August 13, 2009, found at 911Truth.org, http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20090813150853871
13. Dan Briody, The Iron Traingle
14. FBI Memorandum released by 9/11 Commission, "FBI Briefing on Trading", Prepared by: Doug Greenburg, 8/18/03, http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00269.pdf
15. Jim Hoffman, Insider Trading: Pre-9/11 Put Options on Companies Hurt by Attack Indicates Foreknowledge, 911Research.wtc7.net, http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html
16. FBI Memorandum released by 9/11 Commission, “FBI Briefing on Trading”, Prepared by: Doug Greenburg, 8/18/03, http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00269.pdf
17. Pete Brewton, The Mafia, CIA & George Bush: Corruption, Greed and abuse of power in the nation’s highest office, S.P.I. Books, 1992
18. Letter from John Conyer to former President Jimmy Carter, April 11, 2005, http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/ltrtopotuscarter.pdf
19. Sourcewatch page for James A. Baker III, http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=James_Addison_Baker_III
20 Ian Cobain, Firm was 'cover for CIA', Times Online, May 14, 2003 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1132056.ece
21. George H.W. Bush’s exploits in the CIA, and his many connections to the most troubling events of American history, are described in Russ Baker's book Family of Secrets, Bloomsbury Press
22. Kevin R. Ryan, Demolition access to the World Trade Center towers: Part one – Tenants, 7-09-09, Distributed via the Unanswered Questions Wire and found at 911Truth.org, http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20090713033854249
23. Kevin R. Ryan, Demolition Access To The WTC Towers: Part Two – Security
24. Kevin R. Ryan, The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nanothermites, Journal of 9/11 Studies, July 2008, http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf
25. History Commons, Context of '(Mid-1986): Report Rates Vulnerability of Public Areas of WTC to Terrorist Attack as ‘Very High’', http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a86saicreport
26. New York State Law Reporting Bureau, In The Matter of World Trade Center Bombing Litigation, 2004 NY Slip Op 24030 [3 Misc 3d 440], January 20, 2004, http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/3dseries/2004/2004_24030.htm
27. Science Applications International Corporation, Annual Report 2004 http://www.saic.com/news/pdf/Annual-Report2004.pdf
28. Charlie Cray, "Science Applications International Corporation," CorpWatch, http://www.corpwatch.org/section.php?id=17 ; cf. Barlett and Steele, "Washington's $8 Billion Shadow."
29. Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele, Washington's $8 Billion Shadow, Vanity Fair, March 2007, http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/spyagency200703
30. Tim Shorrock, Spies for Hire, Simon and Schuster, 2008
31. Paul Kaihla, US: In The Company Of Spies, CorpWatch, May 1st, 2003, http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=7892
32. Tim Shorrock, Spies for Hire, Simon and Schuster, 2008
33. The Center for Public Integrity, Winning Contractors: U.S. Contractors Reap the Windfalls of Post-war Reconstruction, October 30, 2003, http://projects.publicintegrity.org/wow/report.aspx?aid=65
34. Laura Rozen, The First Contract, The American Prospect, March 30, 2007, http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=12612
35. Bruce V. Bigelow, No. 2 executive at SAIC resigns after 13 years, The San Diego Union-Tribune, February 2, 2006, http://ww.uniontrib.com/uniontrib/20060202/news_1b2saic.html
36. The Funding Universe web page for Analytic Sciences Corporation, http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Analytic-Sciences-Corporation-Company-History.html
37 Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne, Scandals: Not Just a Bank, September 2, 1991, http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,973732-4,00.html
38. Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin, False Profits: The Inside Story of BCCI, The World’s Most Corrupt Financial Empire, Houghton Mifflin, 1992, pp 181, 286, 359, 365, 432
39. Ibid
40. Ibid
41. Ibid, p 141
42. Walter Isaacson, Kissinger: A Biography, Simon & Schuster, 1992, p 739
43. Kissinger Associates, BNL and Iraq, Pinknoiz, http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/iraqgate04.html
44. Kevin R. Ryan, Mahmud Ahmed's itinerary from his Washington DC visit the week of 9/11, 911blogger.com, 11/27/2009, http://www.911blogger.com/node/21978
45. See the following daily diary of President Ford for typical meetings that all these people shared, http://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/diary/pdd750718.pdf
46. List of tenants in Seven World Trade Center, Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tenants_in_Seven_World_Trade_Center
47. Dan Briody, The Iron Triangle
48. Henry Kissinger, Destroy the Network, The Washington Post, September 12, 2001, http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A14275-2001Sep11 link (http://911blogger.com/news/2009-12-12/carlyle-kissinger-saic-and-halliburton-911-convergence)

ThePythonicCow
3rd June 2014, 17:38
Agreed - perhaps the single best analysis ever done as to what the "planes" were that hit the WTC twin towers on 9/11 of 2001.

This same RichPlanet analysis was mentioned in September 2012 posts Post #42 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559250&viewfull=1#post559250) and Post #43 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47533-9-11-TV-Fakery-No-Planes--3-10-is-of-particular-importance-&p=559289&viewfull=1#post559289) on the 9/11 TV Fakery No Planes!(3:10 is of particular importance) thread

This provides a much more persuasive analysis of what we know about the "plane" that hit the second tower.

thanks Paul,

I'm sure a lot of the things I'm seeing for the first time on 9/11 yall have been discussing for years.

Thanks very much for posting it above. I had almost forgotten it, and it's a superb analysis.

ThePythonicCow
5th June 2014, 05:30
Gordon Duff has another 9/11 Nukes article: The Real “Manhattan” Nuclear Testing District (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/04/the-real-manhattan-nuclear-testing-district/).

Duff makes some rather sarcastic comments about Snowden still working various angles of Bin Laden did it and what did we know and when did we know it.

Duff then presents some evidence we've seen before of the atomic bomb crater, beneath where the towers once stood, such as for example these images:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pit5.jpg

http://http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pit6.jpg

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pit7.jpg

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pit8-426x640.jpg
Duff concludes with these words, beneath the last image just above:
Place nuke here, light fuse. Someone in a cave in Afghanistan didn’t do this. It was planned in an office in the Pentagon.

gripreaper
5th June 2014, 05:55
Someone in a cave in Afghanistan didn’t do this

What? You mean a small primitive tribe of desert nomads on the other side of the planet in a cave in Afghanistan, with nothing but a cell phone and a couple box cutters, didn't take down two steel and concrete towers at free-fall speed, turning them to dust, and one of their passports surviving the inferno did not land on the sidewalk in New York? But what about the tactical G-force maneuver of the plane that hit the Pentagon without even scratching the front lawn? Wasn't that hijacker taught how to fly a piper cub?

Come on man, you sure ya'll aren't just conspiracy theorists? :)

Cidersomerset
5th June 2014, 06:52
I saw Richard Hall in Weston Super Mare a few years
ago when he was on tour and he said that he was
going to review his ball theory. I went with Ecnal 61
and Winston1964 two other members and it was
an interesting evening. He talked generally about
various subject if I remember, nice man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSzHmHnR78


I did a thread on Judy Wood with several presentations
and I like her tenacity on this subject....
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Andrew is a member of the forum, but not very active,
probably busy researching and doing presentations.....


Dr. Judy Wood, Andrew Johnson & Deanna Spingola - 9/11, Energy and Cover Up - February 25, 2014

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Cidersomerset
5th June 2014, 14:33
Just finished listening to above interview , its a dissection of the events at
ground zero on 9/11 and Judy assisted by Andrew explains what happened
to all the buildings including 7,and how they turn to dust. There were some pointed
questions in the chat that try to goad them, by calling them dis info agents but
Judy & Andrew answers them and keeps to the facts as they see them.

Its a good discussion relatively recent feb 2014 and all Judys point
are logical and scientific, whether you agree with them is up to you.....


It all started coming back, its amazing the amount of info we take in
each day, good and dubious, you forget what you all ready have watched
and learn't. I watch 99 % of the vids I post , which is a lot so I cannot
remember every fact , but looking at the ones on the link below reminds
how much 'info mation ' is floating around and being processed in my
brain.....LOL

http://www.yvarbelotte.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/information-overload.jpg


This is fun and interesting and we are all learning new things and information,
but it sometimes feels we are going in circles.....'Crop circles'..LOL

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Crop_circles_Swirl.jpg/300px-Crop_circles_Swirl.jpg
A 780 ft (240 m) crop circle in the form of a double (six-sided) triskelion composed
of 409 circles. Milk Hill, England, United Kingdom, 2001.
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Dr Judy Wood - Several good interviews in early 2013

Richard D Hall/Dr Judy Wood - Richplanet TV - 08 Feb 2013

In this discussion with Rich Hall Judy speculates about the
overall ramifications of 9/11 more than in her presentations.
very good interview and Judy seems more relaxed talking
about the whole scenario than usual.


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Published on 9 Feb 2013


Richard D Hall interviews Dr Judy Wood. New evidence that a form of cold fusion,
non-kinetic energy weapon was used to turn the World Trade Centre Towers into
dust on 11th September 2001. This interview took place during Dr Wood's UK
speaking tour in late 2012.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57234-Dr-Judy-Wood-Several-good-interviews-in-early-2013&p=652289#post652289

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Judy discusses this towards the end of above interview



Wake Up, This Is Your Alarm!

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Published on 3 Oct 2012


"No problem is to big to run away from."
Music, Lyrics, Vocals: Charlie Pound © 2012.
This song was inspired by Dr Judy Wood, after reading her investigation: WHERE
DID THE TOWERS GO?.


related thread..........

"Where Did The Towers Go?" - Dr Judy Wood in the UK....Sky 200 TV with Theo Chalmers


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41614-Where-Did-The-Towers-Go-Dr-Judy-Wood-in-the-UK....Sky-200-TV-with-Theo-Chalmers

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Default "Where Did The Towers Go?" - Dr Judy Wood in the UK....Sky 200 TV with Theo Chalmers.

One Step Beyond TV show with Theo Chalmers on SKY 200 in the U.K..25 /10/2011

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I have just found this interview Judy Wood gave to Theo Chalmers I have not seen
it before should be interresting....Cheers Steve

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41614-Where-Did-The-Towers-Go-Dr-Judy-Wood-in-the-UK....Sky-200-TV-with-Theo-Chalmers.&p=438224#post438224

Cidersomerset
5th June 2014, 15:25
In a good mood just finished work, and saw this vid on
the u'tube link which I'm listening to now, relatively new.....

John Lear & Andrew Johnson on the 9/11 Plane Stories - Reynolds Reveal # 44 - March 5, 2014

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Published on 15 Mar 2014


Follow up interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLaP-6...
Andrew Johnson's website - http://www.checktheevidence.com/
Morgan Reynolds' website - http://nomoregames.net/
Reynolds Reveal Archives - http://guerillamedianetwork.com/show-...
Dr. Judy Wood's website - http://www.drjudywood.com
Website for her book - http://wheredidthetowersgo.com

This is episode # 44 of the Reynolds Reveal from March 5, 2014.
mp3 - http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio...

See also Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The
Twin Towers - US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept Statement As
Truth - http://neonnettle.com/news/211-ex-cia...

Pilots for 9/11 Truth - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

Cidersomerset
5th June 2014, 20:56
This is the follow up interview to the above........They start off commenting about
flight MH370 , as they saw a it couple months ago.....John says both Boeing & Rolls
Royce know where it is. They then go into 9/11...

Richplanet TV - April 2014 Show - 9/11 Plane Fakery

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Published on 30 Mar 2014


Please visit Richard D Hall's website RICHPLANET.NET
http://www.richplanet.net/starship.php to see all his past shows, and so much
more, covering all types of alternate issues that the mainstream refuses to
acknowledge.

In this show, Richard joins Andrew Johnson, and John Lear on the Morgan Reynolds
show, to discuss the No Planes theory.

In the show, Richard's 2012 analysis of the 9/11 radar and video evidence of flight
175 which allegedly impacted the world trade centre South Tower is discussed. The
video and radar data shows that the object was travelling at around 580 miles per
hour. Most pilots agree that 580 miles per hour is an impossible speed for a 767
travelling near sea level. Not only that, close up videos showing the alleged plane
impacting on the side of the tower show completely impossible impact dynamics.
So with two major impossibilities the question arises, what was actually used? By
studying the video evidence closely it suggests that some kind of illusion was being
generated to trick observers of the existence of a 767 aircraft. It is possible that a
solid object was cloaked inside the illusion. John Lear explains just how impossible
the speed was, which is a piece of glaring evidence that is not going to go away.

DaveToo
30th December 2022, 01:32
Yes indeed, 9/11 was a nuclear event.
Not traditional nuclear bombs, but nuclear devices nonetheless.

Heinz Pommer, a nuclear physicist took the nuclear ball and ran with it.

Anyone who is open-minded about this, but still hasn't aligned themselves
with the nuclear camp, I urge you to catch up on all of Heinz Pommer's work.

He is able to explain all of the evidence, yes event the 'toasted cars' and the
survivors at the base of the towers.

If you take the 'Pommer course', be prepared for it to last last several days.