PDA

View Full Version : Crystals



Roisin
4th June 2014, 01:32
Recently I had a mind's eye vision during a meditation session of female hands holding a primitive knotted rope-like necklace of rough smokey quartz pieces in her hand. She was picking each one of those stones up with her other hand and showing me each piece so I could get a good look at them.

The message I got from that vision was for me to purchase some quartz like that and wear them as a necklace; like the one shown in that vision.

Well, today I did a look-up on smoky quartz and, much to my surprise, they heal in those area's that I've been going through over the past couple of weeks... in my case, mainly having bad dreams which is something that I rarely experience but for some reason, this is a problem I've been having lately on a nightly basis. They are not so much nightmares but just negative. That's the only way I can describe them.

I've ordered a batch of rough smoky quartz via the internet. Once I get them I will tie them up into a necklace to wear everyday and at night too.

I got that vision out of the blue. I've never put any thought to what some say about the power of crystals and so on... but apparently someone from the spirit world has sent me the message to put together that necklace. So that's what I'm going to do.

At any rate, I'm just wondering but does anyone here have any positive experiences wrt crystals? If so, could you share them here in this thread? I would be much appreciative if you could do that. thanks!

Maknocktomb
4th June 2014, 03:38
Make sure you get natural smokey quartz and not the irradiated smokey quartz.

onawah
4th June 2014, 04:32
I've had many positive experiences with crystal, which have been life- changing.
I have lots of them in my home and they help a lot with keeping my energy uplifted.
It's a good idea to cleanse them periodically in salt water for a couple of hours, rinse, and let them set out in the sun, moon, rain, etc. to recharge, particularly when there are powerful astrological aspects.
Just make sure you don't expose them to quickly changing extremes in temperature, as that can crack them.
You can program them to heal, protect, send energy and many other tasks by meditating with them and sharing the desired intention, though different crystals have different capabilities.
There are lots of books, websites with information about crystals--it shouldn't be hard to find some that resonate with you.
That was a great dream that you had, and it's great that you are acting on it.
It can be very life-changing for you.

Tyy1907
4th June 2014, 04:32
I've heard that crystals can amplify thought energy. Truly something that needs to be studied and researched more in depth.

spiritguide
4th June 2014, 06:34
The following link will connect you with a site full of crystal information. Safe travels and enjoyment.

http://www.crystalinks.com/gemstones.html

Crystals utilize frequencies in communication.

Peace!

Becky
4th June 2014, 07:24
I have a great affinity for crystals and have worked with them for my own benefit and healing and enjoyment for about 15 years consciously, and before that as I collected natural crystals ever since I was tiny. It's something I'd like to do more of.
I can feel the energies of some of them clearly, and am a firm believer that they can affect and influence our energetic fields.
Enjoy your necklace - natural smokey quartz is a wonderful crystal - very powerful.

Wind
4th June 2014, 12:07
I too was guided a couple of years ago to buy some crystals and now I have a small collection of them, actually crystals have fascinated me since I was a child. I have lots of quartz crystals, including one which has crystals in it for all the chakras, though I wear it only occasionally. Some of the quartz crystals are wands and some of them are Vogel (https://www.google.fi/search?q=vogel+crystals&client=firefox-a&hs=BYB&rls=org.mozilla:fi:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hAmPU7GnD4ijyQOow4DIDg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1416&bih=891) and pyramid shaped, though only relatively cheap copies. I have smokey quartz too.

I do believe that crystals can heal and help us, but the current society has forgotten their true power as ignorance tends to be prevalent these days. Now they are seen only as beautiful "rocks", which is shame. A long, long time ago they were used as very powerful tools.

Actually during the past week I've been sleeping poorly and seen negative dreams. Sometimes I have put crystals under my pillow, but I haven't done it now, maybe I should.

This is a good movie and also some information about some crystals in the PDF.

x6pYAiRqhio

earthadvocate
4th June 2014, 12:12
I have a crystal who is a friend to me, I use crystals on my reiki grid to do long distance healing.

Zaya
4th June 2014, 14:15
Thanks, Roisin, for bringing this topic up. I have had it in the back of my mind that I would like to learn more about crystals and try to utilize them. I have also wanted to get a himalayan rock salt lamp as well. Thank you especially for bringing up the smokey quartz/bad dreams correlation as I have been suffering from extremely negative dreams as well. I also know what you mean by "not nightmares" but "really negative". I have been plagued with this for years and years. I used to jokingly call them "anxiety dreams". Perhaps I will look into some crystals for it as well. Please let us know if they help!

Roisin
4th June 2014, 15:47
Wow! It looks like I'm in for a new adventure wrt to learning more about crystals and trying different kinds of them out for any given thing. Thanks all for commenting here on the power of crystals and hoping that this thread will receive more comments and personal experiences with them too.

One member here (PurpleLama) sent me a PM saying calcite is good for nightmares so will buy one of those too. Looking forward to that small shipment of smoky quartz I ordered and will be checking out the Nature Shop at the zoo I live next to because they have a whole selection of all kinds of crystals, minerals and stones to choose from too. Monday's are free (no entrance fee) at that zoo so will be checking out their current selection at that nature shop there this coming Monday morning. :)

Also, it's interesting that others too have received messages from beyond to use crystals. That gives me goosebumps when I think about that because it definitely gives more veracity as to the efficacy of crystals and how we can benefit from them.

Thanks for those links on crystals for me to check out also!

Earth Angel
4th June 2014, 15:48
I had a past life regression done about 4 years ago, during the session I was asked what I could do to help myself with some of my present life goals and I said 'learn more about crystals'.....took me over 3 years but for my birthday I got a load of various small crystals and the material to make my own orgone pyramids......I have made 3 so far and several pucks to place around the house. They are beautiful just to look at but also there is an energy that can be felt off of the pyramid. I sleep with one by my bed.....try to bring it around the house with me especially when I am spending a lot of time on my computer. Having the pyramids made me notice that I actually have been collecting crystals over the years, I have a wand filled with crystal ( Amega zero point energy wand) a large rose quartz sphere, an amethyst pendulum and several large pieces of amethyst jewellery. I have the Crystal Bible and need to spend more time studying the uses for various crystals.

LivioRazlo
4th June 2014, 20:57
I think I might just have to buy some crystals now, especially the natural smokey quartz that was referenced above. Had a terrible dream last night which I woke up screaming too - dreamt about some fiery-red all seeing eye that told me "I am the one who never sleeps" and a legion of children's toys that marched out of a door to which I was desperately trying to hold closed.

Sidney
5th June 2014, 02:16
I have always wanted to go to Arkansas and dig crystals. I just may do that this summer. I do have some crystals that I purchased to use with orgone making, but they are still packed in a box somewhere, since my last move. Hmmm. Time to find that box. Good thread Roisin.

shadowstalker
5th June 2014, 03:05
Can you wire wrap? I made these, I have a couple I haven't posted yet that are much better

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10268520_762312750498151_6501366387615768851_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10314639_762269977169095_7720432123935334828_n.jpg?oh=fedc77a36a30f4ae88529d8f771724ca&oe=53F68EAC

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10346639_760587300670696_7679469380985022744_n.jpg

Zaya
5th June 2014, 13:29
Shadowstalker, those are beautiful! You should start an Etsy store and sell some :)

shadowstalker
6th June 2014, 03:57
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/s600x600/10417646_776739222388837_794064919581677169_n.jpg

DeDukshyn
6th June 2014, 22:28
Nice wraps Shadowstalker, My Gf has all the jewelry tools, so one day I sat down in front of youtube with my ridiculous $100 bag of stones (the price was ridiculous, the crystals I got were pretty good), and learned how to do it - it's not hard, but requires patience and a lot of wire to start out ;). I thoroughly enjoyed it. If I can recall were my samples went I'll take some pics and post it here. My son wears one of my creations as a pendant. Once you start making these people will start asking for them ;)


Smokey quartz is said to be very grounding, I have a (still) planned wizard staff project that will have a smokey quartz in the bottom tip underneath a metal sheath (for durability as a walking stick) for the purpose of drawing out negative energies to be grounded. I'll still get to making that one day ...

And I have an un-lose-able amethyst that I sometimes carry in my pocket -- it does get lost a lot, but I always find it. I even found it once in the grocery store parking lot after not seeing it for about a year. I don't even worry about losing it anymore!

DeDukshyn
6th June 2014, 22:32
I've heard that crystals can amplify thought energy. Truly something that needs to be studied and researched more in depth.

Check with IBM. :) They have a whole crystal research division. Supposedly the man who invented the Vogel cut for quartz, supposedly making it more useful or "powerful", was an ex engineer from IBM's crystal research department. The problem is that crystal research directly turns into technology, something that needs to be "protected" for the sake of profitability or keeping it out of the hands of the competitor / enemy.

Roisin
6th June 2014, 23:36
Can you wire wrap? I made these, I have a couple I haven't posted yet that are much better

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10268520_762312750498151_6501366387615768851_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10314639_762269977169095_7720432123935334828_n.jpg?oh=fedc77a36a30f4ae88529d8f771724ca&oe=53F68EAC

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10346639_760587300670696_7679469380985022744_n.jpg

Wow! Those are beautiful! I'm very impressed! You are quite the artisan! Thanks for sharing!

Roisin
6th June 2014, 23:44
This thread is definitely turning out to be a real storehouse of information on Crystals... including Crystal jewelry design too!
Once I get my stuff in the mail including purchasing different Crystals on monday at that Nature shop, I'm going to start experimenting with them. Will keep a journal on each one too. I'm very excited about all of this and can't wait to start. In the meantime I've been reading up on this topic for a few days now. I'm thinking of it as a new adventure! Thanks everybody for your continuing contributions to this thread. :)

Roisin
6th June 2014, 23:54
I've heard that crystals can amplify thought energy. Truly something that needs to be studied and researched more in depth.

Check with IBM. :) They have a whole crystal research division. Supposedly the man who invented the Vogel cut for quartz, supposedly making it more useful or "powerful", was an ex engineer from IBM's crystal research department. The problem is that crystal research directly turns into technology, something that needs to be "protected" for the sake of profitability or keeping it out of the hands of the competitor / enemy.

Thanks for bringing this up and will check that out. Very interesting! :)

Ahnung-quay
7th June 2014, 02:33
I've been doing some research lately on crystals. It's part of the astrotheology research I've been doing where I'm looking at the stones used in Aaron's breastplate and the layers of stone used in the Millennial City and how they correspond to the zodiac contellations or to certain stars. Anyway, I've found out quite a bit of information on stones and crystals in general.

Turns out that quite a few gemstones are quartz. There are hydrous stones such as opal but, even stones that are not so hydrous carry minute amounts of water. Who would have thought it? I think that some stones and crystals can pick up information and emotion due to the minute water molecules that are in them. That, along with their other elements is what gives each of them their unique healing properties.

Roisin
7th June 2014, 03:57
Much food for thought and will make note of it. It's the parts that make up the whole We may not understand the physics of it yet that makes things work... but I'm sure someday we will.

leavesoftrees
7th June 2014, 12:06
Les Brown Physics Of Crystals Full Documentary

This rare documentary takes a look at the true nature of magnetism, electricity and gravity. Crystals, Physics of a fractal universe and Spin on orbiting bodies. Also speaks of pyramids and how to make one to grow large crops.
This was taken from a DVD called "The Physics of Crystals."

APvlD4-_uWw

Roisin
7th June 2014, 12:26
Leavesoftrees, looks good and can't wait to watch it sometime later today! Thanks for posting it here! :)
---------------------------------------------------------------
¤=[Post Update]=¤


I too was guided a couple of years ago to buy some crystals and now I have a small collection of them, actually crystals have fascinated me since I was a child. I have lots of quartz crystals, including one which has crystals in it for all the chakras, though I wear it only occasionally. Some of the quartz crystals are wands and some of them are Vogel (https://www.google.fi/search?q=vogel+crystals&client=firefox-a&hs=BYB&rls=org.mozilla:fi:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hAmPU7GnD4ijyQOow4DIDg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1416&bih=891) and pyramid shaped, though only relatively cheap copies. I have smokey quartz too.

I do believe that crystals can heal and help us, but the current society has forgotten their true power as ignorance tends to be prevalent these days. Now they are seen only as beautiful "rocks", which is shame. A long, long time ago they were used as very powerful tools.

Actually during the past week I've been sleeping poorly and seen negative dreams. Sometimes I have put crystals under my pillow, but I haven't done it now, maybe I should.

This is a good movie and also some information about some crystals in the PDF.

x6pYAiRqhio

Watched the video and found it very informative. Thanks for posting it Wind and thanks also for that attachment which was very informative too (Spirit Science Guide to Crystals)!

Abhaya
7th June 2014, 13:34
Get a piece of black tourmaline to keep in your pocket with your cell phone to cancel out all cancerous effects. :)

Roisin
7th June 2014, 13:55
Thanks! I'll jot that down to have it handy when I look at the selection of crystals and stones at that Nature Shop I'm going to on Monday morning. If they have black tourmaline, I'll buy one!

DeDukshyn
7th June 2014, 16:26
...

Turns out that quite a few gemstones are quartz. There are hydrous stones such as opal but, even stones that are not so hydrous carry minute amounts of water. Who would have thought it? I think that some stones and crystals can pick up information and emotion due to the minute water molecules that are in them. That, along with their other elements is what gives each of them their unique healing properties.

Correct,
Quartz is actually a mineral - The list below is from Wikipedia -- varieties of the quartz mineral. When we think "quartz crystal" we always think of clear quartz, but it comes in many forms and styles!

A
Agate
Akik
Amethyst
Ametrine
Aventurine

C
Cape May diamonds
Carnelian
Chalcedony
Chert
Chrome chalcedony
Chrysoprase
Citrine
Coesite
Condor agate
Cristobalite

D
Dynamic quartz recrystallization

E
Enhydro agate

F
Fiorite
Fire agate
Flint
Fused quartz

G
Geyserite

H
Heliotrope (mineral)
Herkimer diamond
Hyalite

J
Jasper

K
Keatite

L
Lake Superior agate

M
Melanophlogite
Menilite
Moganite
Moss agate
Mozarkite

O
Onyx
Opal
Orbicular jasper

P
Petrified wood
Phantom quartz
Pietersite
Prasiolite

Q
Quartz
Quartzite

R
Rose de france
Rose quartz

S
Seifertite
Shocked quartz
Smoky quartz
Stishovite
Striped flint

T
Tiger's eye
Tridymite

DeDukshyn
7th June 2014, 17:02
I've heard that crystals can amplify thought energy. Truly something that needs to be studied and researched more in depth.

Check with IBM. :) They have a whole crystal research division. Supposedly the man who invented the Vogel cut for quartz, supposedly making it more useful or "powerful", was an ex engineer from IBM's crystal research department. The problem is that crystal research directly turns into technology, something that needs to be "protected" for the sake of profitability or keeping it out of the hands of the competitor / enemy.

Thanks for bringing this up and will check that out. Very interesting! :)

Here's a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Vogel

Wind
8th June 2014, 09:10
Here's a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Vogel

Interesting fact:


He also designed the Vogel Crystal Cut, which allegedly focuses "universal life force" by concentrating it and transforming it to a higher level or vibration. Vogel crystals are said to be cut to the extremely precise angle of 51 degrees 51 minutes and 51 seconds, which is also claimed as the precise angle of the sides of the Great Pyramid of Giza. The crystal is further designed along the geometry of the Tree of Life symbol. Its design is said to have come to him in a dream.

Youtube is full of his lectures (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marcel+vogel&page=1), blessed be his soul.

J7e6n03Rkgo
bq0vAqAIReI

Roisin
8th June 2014, 17:04
That's fascinating and will watch those video's later today. Thanks for posting them Wind!

One of the things I would like to research and experiment on has to do with protecting oneself from having the energy sucked out of you when one is around toxic personalities. For example, I stumbled on a list on toxic people today from an anonymous source and here's that list:


1) If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.

2) If you find yourself apologizing on a regular basis over every conversation, while they apologize for nothing and show no mercy or forgiveness, then they’re toxic.

3) If almost every conversation goes in circles with nothing but drama over the most petty things, then they’re toxic.

4) If “the silent treatment” is a regular occurrence and your communication efforts are ignored, and then you’re blamed for the misunderstandings and communication issues, then they’re toxic.

5) If they consider it your responsibility to anticipate their reaction to whatever you say, and they expect you to anticipate whatever it is they’re in the mood to hear, and then blame you for not complying, they are toxic.

6) If they use “the silent treatment,” anger, criticism and being the “rational adult” for the purposes of controlling, manipulating and “changing” you into compliance, then they are toxic.

7) Emotional abuse that undermines your confidence and steals your mojo is always, always, always toxic. No exceptions and no excuses.

Such people are energy vampires but then there are those people out there who do not seem to possess those behavior patterns cited on that list but they nevertheless, for some non-identifiable inexplicable reason, end up sucking all of the energy out of you when one is around them too.

Of course, it goes without saying that one needs to separate themselves from either type but as we well know, when it comes to family members who are like that, avoiding them is easier said than done.

But based on the results of a recent study, females are more apt to end up suffering from serious chronic illness due to being around toxic personalities all the time. This said though, we all end up with health issues when around people like that except that men end up with other kinds of health issues instead, like heart attacks and shorter life spans, for example.

At any rate, based on the information I'm getting about crystals, I look forward to being able to protect myself from those energy drains I experience when around those personality types.

I will try out different ones and see which of them work best -- and it should be easy enough to find out which ones they are too because the results will speak for itself!

DeDukshyn
10th June 2014, 02:08
That's fascinating and will watch those video's later today. Thanks for posting them Wind!

One of the things I would like to research and experiment on has to do with protecting oneself from having the energy sucked out of you when one is around toxic personalities. For example, I stumbled on a list on toxic people today from an anonymous source and here's that list:


1) If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.

2) If you find yourself apologizing on a regular basis over every conversation, while they apologize for nothing and show no mercy or forgiveness, then they’re toxic.

3) If almost every conversation goes in circles with nothing but drama over the most petty things, then they’re toxic.

4) If “the silent treatment” is a regular occurrence and your communication efforts are ignored, and then you’re blamed for the misunderstandings and communication issues, then they’re toxic.

5) If they consider it your responsibility to anticipate their reaction to whatever you say, and they expect you to anticipate whatever it is they’re in the mood to hear, and then blame you for not complying, they are toxic.

6) If they use “the silent treatment,” anger, criticism and being the “rational adult” for the purposes of controlling, manipulating and “changing” you into compliance, then they are toxic.

7) Emotional abuse that undermines your confidence and steals your mojo is always, always, always toxic. No exceptions and no excuses.

Such people are energy vampires but then there are those people out there who do not seem to possess those behavior patterns cited on that list but they nevertheless, for some non-identifiable inexplicable reason, end up sucking all of the energy out of you when one is around them too.

Of course, it goes without saying that one needs to separate themselves from either type but as we well know, when it comes to family members who are like that, avoiding them is easier said than done.

But based on the results of a recent study, females are more apt to end up suffering from serious chronic illness due to being around toxic personalities all the time. This said though, we all end up with health issues when around people like that except that men end up with other kinds of health issues instead, like heart attacks and shorter life spans, for example.

At any rate, based on the information I'm getting about crystals, I look forward to being able to protect myself from those energy drains I experience when around those personality types.

I will try out different ones and see which of them work best -- and it should be easy enough to find out which ones they are too because the results will speak for itself!



I 100% disagree with most of that list. ;) <ducks>

For example #1)
If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.


I'll be 100% honest and say that in case of item 1) if this happens, that means YOU (me, or whomever the subject) are toxic, and have a huge overabundance of fear and self doubt that is your toxicity that needs to be addressed (in part I agree -- crystals can help with this).

My 2 cents, without emotional response, consider what I am saying here. and ... I'm not sure the source is "anonymous" - that came from (or was at least posted at) another thread here on Avalon. Possibly something in regard to ex-member 9eagle9? My memory isn't that great. ;)

Shezbeth
10th June 2014, 04:03
Don't feel bad Dedukshyn, I agree. The items listed are at the very least, far from being specific enough to draw a conclusion, and in many cases are contrary to the idea; most are behaviors of toxic individuals (I prefer 'psychic vampires'), not evidence of others being so. This reads more like an attempt to flip the script and avoid recognition of one's own behavior than being an actionable set of guidelines.

In particular, items #'s 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 are common responses of psychic vampires to sovereign individuals who assertively refuse them; victim-think from my perspective. I largely agree with #5 but still, only in a limited context.

Besides that, while crystals, stones, minerals, etc. can be useful for particular purposes, one should be wary of relying on them in general/consistent practice. Hallucinogenic/psychedelic compounds (for example) can be helpful for healing, astral, and metaphysical work, but one could do worse than aspire to perform/operate without them.

Ahnung-quay
11th June 2014, 01:41
I've been on the giving side of the above listed energy sucking behaviors (in my past hopefully) and on the receiving end. Trust me, it's best to just walk away in either case! Not that crystals won't help with protection but, walking away does nicely too.

tnkayaker
11th June 2014, 03:55
Wow! It looks like I'm in for a new adventure wrt to learning more about crystals and trying different kinds of them out for any given thing. Thanks all for commenting here on the power of crystals and hoping that this thread will receive more comments and personal experiences with them too.

One member here (PurpleLama) sent me a PM saying calcite is good for nightmares so will buy one of those too. Looking forward to that small shipment of smoky quartz I ordered and will be checking out the Nature Shop at the zoo I live next to because they have a whole selection of all kinds of crystals, minerals and stones to choose from too. Monday's are free (no entrance fee) at that zoo so will be checking out their current selection at that nature shop there this coming Monday morning. :)

Also, it's interesting that others too have received messages from beyond to use crystals. That gives me goosebumps when I think about that because it definitely gives more veracity as to the efficacy of crystals and how we can benefit from them.

Thanks for those links on crystals for me to check out also!

personally, as a life long crystal collector and user, basically for balancing and healing, i feel it is imperative to shop for crystals in person, not buying them online or having them sent, it is just like picking out a guitar, if one is true to wanting to be a musician and/or learning with a loving open heart, one will find , ONE guitar will call you, its that simple, just as in crystal buying, be patient, and have your intent in your heart and mind while looking, handle all of them , that is all that appeal to you, dont make quick decisions unless one calls you directly,and you will find one or many depending on what your needs are at the time, if you are "in tune" what you need will present itself to you, once i was with a friend while going crystal hunting at the local shops when i was living in Michigan, and when she gazed upon this one quartz piece, it literally turned towards her,almost 180 degrees, i about pee-d my pants, i couldnt believe it, but then again, she was quite " in tune" so i just looked at her and we just laughed and she purchased the piece and we went about our day, hunting crystals and going shop to shop, i think it was sagatuck ,Mi in the summer time, or somewhere near Chicago i forget now, that was alot of years but i have had many wonderful experiences while crystals were being used, so keep an open mind and be patient and you will be surprised! peace,dennis

Roisin
12th June 2014, 14:19
That's fascinating and will watch those video's later today. Thanks for posting them Wind!

One of the things I would like to research and experiment on has to do with protecting oneself from having the energy sucked out of you when one is around toxic personalities. For example, I stumbled on a list on toxic people today from an anonymous source and here's that list:


1) If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.

2) If you find yourself apologizing on a regular basis over every conversation, while they apologize for nothing and show no mercy or forgiveness, then they’re toxic.

3) If almost every conversation goes in circles with nothing but drama over the most petty things, then they’re toxic.

4) If “the silent treatment” is a regular occurrence and your communication efforts are ignored, and then you’re blamed for the misunderstandings and communication issues, then they’re toxic.

5) If they consider it your responsibility to anticipate their reaction to whatever you say, and they expect you to anticipate whatever it is they’re in the mood to hear, and then blame you for not complying, they are toxic.

6) If they use “the silent treatment,” anger, criticism and being the “rational adult” for the purposes of controlling, manipulating and “changing” you into compliance, then they are toxic.

7) Emotional abuse that undermines your confidence and steals your mojo is always, always, always toxic. No exceptions and no excuses.

Such people are energy vampires but then there are those people out there who do not seem to possess those behavior patterns cited on that list but they nevertheless, for some non-identifiable inexplicable reason, end up sucking all of the energy out of you when one is around them too.

Of course, it goes without saying that one needs to separate themselves from either type but as we well know, when it comes to family members who are like that, avoiding them is easier said than done.

But based on the results of a recent study, females are more apt to end up suffering from serious chronic illness due to being around toxic personalities all the time. This said though, we all end up with health issues when around people like that except that men end up with other kinds of health issues instead, like heart attacks and shorter life spans, for example.

At any rate, based on the information I'm getting about crystals, I look forward to being able to protect myself from those energy drains I experience when around those personality types.

I will try out different ones and see which of them work best -- and it should be easy enough to find out which ones they are too because the results will speak for itself!



I 100% disagree with most of that list. ;) <ducks>

For example #1)
If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.


I'll be 100% honest and say that in case of item 1) if this happens, that means YOU (me, or whomever the subject) are toxic, and have a huge overabundance of fear and self doubt that is your toxicity that needs to be addressed (in part I agree -- crystals can help with this).

My 2 cents, without emotional response, consider what I am saying here. and ... I'm not sure the source is "anonymous" - that came from (or was at least posted at) another thread here on Avalon. Possibly something in regard to ex-member 9eagle9? My memory isn't that great. ;)

Thanks for your input on this.
As for crystals helping... good to hear that!

As for the source of that list, I found it in the comment section on an article written by someone on the topic of toxic people on the internet.

Here's that comment from that page on the internet that I got that list from. The name of the article that this person was commenting on was "7 Smart Ways to Deal with Toxic People". The comments by readers of that article are below it including the comment by a woman who posted that list that I posted here. Now that I'm reading it over again, apparently this is a list that she came up with herself wrt to toxic personalities:
http://www.marcandangel.com/2013/12/08/7-smart-ways-to-deal-with-toxic-people/




Melissa W.

I had to distance myself from my family for years to really find myself and get strong enough to be around them without taking their toxic behavior personally and to make it clear there were boundaries they couldn’t cross, because I couldn’t just let them go and move on. But I did purge a lot of friends out of my life who dragged me back down and prevented me from growing or being myself.

I had to get in the mindset that I was only going to surround myself with people who lifted me up and encouraged and supported me. It hurt and it was hard and my circle of friends is really, really small now, but it’s made me a much stronger, happier person, and I’m a lot more selective about who I interact with.

Though some toxic people still manage to get past my guard. It took two different friends telling me I was being bullied and the other person was the negative one for me to actually see the last toxic relationship, and it took me months to realize there wasn’t something wrong with me.

So a good rule of thumb I actually wrote out and pinned to my eraser board to recognize toxic people whenever I find myself in this situation again is this:

1) If you feel like you’re walking on eggshells in every conversation, because you’re constantly worried about how this person is going to react to whatever you say, then they’re toxic.

2) If you find yourself apologizing on a regular basis over every conversation, while they apologize for nothing and show no mercy or forgiveness, then they’re toxic.

3) If almost every conversation goes in circles with nothing but drama over the most petty things, then they’re toxic.

4) If “the silent treatment” is a regular occurrence and your communication efforts are ignored, and then you’re blamed for the misunderstandings and communication issues, then they’re toxic.

5) If they consider it your responsibility to anticipate their reaction to whatever you say, and they expect you to anticipate whatever it is they’re in the mood to hear, and then blame you for not complying, they are toxic.

6) If they use “the silent treatment,” anger, criticism and being the “rational adult” for the purposes of controlling, manipulating and “changing” you into compliance, then they are toxic.

7) Emotional abuse that undermines your confidence and steals your mojo is always, always, always toxic. No exceptions and no excuses.

It’s definitely taught me to lose all tolerance for toxic people, and I’m better at walking away and moving on, but I’m still struggling with getting my confidence back and not blaming myself. And I’ve found it’s better to just distance yourself or walk away completely from these people. The last time I called someone out on their behavior, they proved me right by threatening me, and still blamed me for their behavior. People like this have control and power issues, and it’s not worth it.

Roisin
12th June 2014, 14:36
I've been on the giving side of the above listed energy sucking behaviors (in my past hopefully) and on the receiving end. Trust me, it's best to just walk away in either case! Not that crystals won't help with protection but, walking away does nicely too.

Yes, avoidance is the best policy when it comes to toxic personalities but good that crystals may help in the protection dept. if one should one end up in the same room with them which is something that's unavoidable sometimes during family gatherings... like the dinner table!

In situations like that, the number one rule is to be polite and to remind oneself that others are there who also avoid that person for the same reasons you do. That too offers some protection and support on a group level.

Roisin
12th June 2014, 14:43
Wow! It looks like I'm in for a new adventure wrt to learning more about crystals and trying different kinds of them out for any given thing. Thanks all for commenting here on the power of crystals and hoping that this thread will receive more comments and personal experiences with them too.

One member here (PurpleLama) sent me a PM saying calcite is good for nightmares so will buy one of those too. Looking forward to that small shipment of smoky quartz I ordered and will be checking out the Nature Shop at the zoo I live next to because they have a whole selection of all kinds of crystals, minerals and stones to choose from too. Monday's are free (no entrance fee) at that zoo so will be checking out their current selection at that nature shop there this coming Monday morning. :)

Also, it's interesting that others too have received messages from beyond to use crystals. That gives me goosebumps when I think about that because it definitely gives more veracity as to the efficacy of crystals and how we can benefit from them.

Thanks for those links on crystals for me to check out also!

personally, as a life long crystal collector and user, basically for balancing and healing, i feel it is imperative to shop for crystals in person, not buying them online or having them sent, it is just like picking out a guitar, if one is true to wanting to be a musician and/or learning with a loving open heart, one will find , ONE guitar will call you, its that simple, just as in crystal buying, be patient, and have your intent in your heart and mind while looking, handle all of them , that is all that appeal to you, dont make quick decisions unless one calls you directly,and you will find one or many depending on what your needs are at the time, if you are "in tune" what you need will present itself to you, once i was with a friend while going crystal hunting at the local shops when i was living in Michigan, and when she gazed upon this one quartz piece, it literally turned towards her,almost 180 degrees, i about pee-d my pants, i couldnt believe it, but then again, she was quite " in tune" so i just looked at her and we just laughed and she purchased the piece and we went about our day, hunting crystals and going shop to shop, i think it was sagatuck ,Mi in the summer time, or somewhere near Chicago i forget now, that was alot of years but i have had many wonderful experiences while crystals were being used, so keep an open mind and be patient and you will be surprised! peace,dennis

Thanks for your suggestion on this. In fact, I wondered about that... purchasing over the internet v.s. purchasing crystals at local stores instead and which is better. What you are saying here makes a lot of sense to me.

gardunk
12th June 2014, 16:47
I am a Herkimer Diamond miner and believe that these very unique forms of Quartz are magical in many ways/ This is not self promotion and I have numerous personal stories that are amazing but of all thw forms of Quartz for one interested in them please check out this site:

http://herkimerhistory.com/

Roisin
12th June 2014, 18:30
Thanks for sharing! I'm looking over that link now, very interesting!