The Yellowstone Seismic Activity Thread

[Zaya]

As we all know, there is a ton of seismic activity going on in the world right now. Almost a ridiculous amount. Many people on the forums have expressed some fear/interest about the Yellowstone National Park Volcano erupting soon as we are near due for a huge one. Well, folks, things are heating up. There were 20-30 small quakes yesterday and 31 on Saturday.

I figured it is time that we have an official thread tracking this activity as things heat up. First, here is a small article mentioning the activity in the last few days:


http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/swarm-of-earthquakes-in-yellowstone-park/article_03358bb5-5238-5ecc-8b7d-50862b6892e8.html

'Swarm of earthquakes in Yellowstone Park'

June 3, 2014 5:30 pm

Seismographs have picked up a swarm of earthquakes in the northwestern corner of Yellowstone National Park, including dozens early Tuesday.

The University of Utah Seismograph Station reported five small earthquakes including those with magnitudes of 3.4, 2.7 and 3.2 in a 20-minute period starting at 3:33 a.m. in an area 16 to 18 miles south of Gardiner.

Earthquake information specialist Paul Roberson said there were another 20 to 30 small quakes Tuesday morning that hadn't yet been posted on the university's website. He called it a fairly normal swarm for Yellowstone. He didn't expect there to be any damage.

Seismographs recorded 31 quakes in the same area south of Gardiner on Saturday, while another 23 were reported last Wednesday and Thursday in an area between 18 and 19 miles east-southeast of West Yellowstone.

I got the following information off of the official "seismic activity for Yellowstone Park" page: http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.html


3.4 2014/06/04 15:22:31 44.787N 110.765W 9.2 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.7 2014/06/04 09:25:44 44.804N 110.762W 6.6 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.5 2014/06/04 09:20:57 44.800N 110.772W 6.2 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.3 2014/06/04 08:57:50 44.791N 110.775W 6.3 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.6 2014/06/04 06:34:10 44.802N 110.773W 4.6 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.5 2014/06/04 06:16:03 44.788N 110.766W 7.7 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.7 2014/06/04 06:12:47 44.785N 110.760W 4.5 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.9 2014/06/04 05:59:32 44.786N 110.775W 3.5 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.8 2014/06/04 05:51:12 44.798N 110.766W 4.0 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.9 2014/06/04 03:31:04 44.785N 110.768W 4.8 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.3 2014/06/04 03:30:51 44.805N 110.766W 4.8 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.3 2014/06/04 02:52:10 44.819N 110.746W 8.4 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.9 2014/06/04 00:34:51 44.601N 110.710W 7.7 32 km (20 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2014/06/03 21:20:46 44.791N 110.769W 4.8 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/06/03 21:20:25 44.784N 110.772W 2.4 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.4 2014/06/03 20:46:30 44.780N 110.767W 3.9 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/06/03 20:35:36 44.785N 110.774W 3.9 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/06/03 20:23:57 44.804N 110.765W 5.1 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.2 2014/06/03 20:21:16 44.834N 110.745W 6.6 23 km (14 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.4 2014/06/03 19:56:57 44.782N 110.772W 4.4 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.3 2014/06/03 19:56:42 44.811N 110.757W 7.0 25 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.9 2014/06/03 19:53:18 44.786N 110.769W 4.4 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.4 2014/06/03 19:50:15 44.793N 110.766W 4.3 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/06/03 19:32:26 44.816N 110.756W 7.2 25 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/06/03 19:31:08 44.800N 110.769W 5.0 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.9 2014/06/03 19:26:15 44.801N 110.762W 5.6 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.8 2014/06/03 19:21:37 44.782N 110.771W 3.2 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.2 2014/06/03 19:02:19 44.818N 110.746W 7.3 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.4 2014/06/03 18:58:31 44.782N 110.766W 4.8 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.6 2014/06/03 18:32:42 44.803N 110.754W 6.4 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.1 2014/06/03 03:52:52 44.783N 110.759W 7.6 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.4 2014/06/03 03:33:27 44.796N 110.766W 10.3 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.5 2014/05/31 16:25:00 44.791N 110.776W 4.7 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT

That is only in the past 4 days! This seems like something to keep track of, yes?

[Zaya]

I also realize this next one is from March 30, 2014, but it is still worth posting in this thread to keep our information in one place here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/31/us-usa-earthquake-yellowstone-idUSBREA2U01920140331


Yellowstone National Park rattled by largest earthquake in 34 years

(Reuters) - Yellowstone National Park, which sits atop one of the world's largest super-volcanoes, was struck on Sunday by a magnitude 4.8 earthquake, the biggest recorded there since February 1980, but no damage or injuries were immediately reported.

The tremor, a relatively light event by seismic standards, struck the northwest corner of the park and capped a flurry of smaller quakes at Yellowstone since Thursday, geologists at the University of Utah Seismograph Stations said in a statement.

The latest earthquake struck at 6:34 a.m. near the Norris Geyser Basin and was felt about 23 miles away in two small Montana towns adjacent to year-around entrances to the park - Gardiner and West Yellowstone.

The national park spans 3,472 square miles (8,992 square km) of Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, and draws about 3 million visitors each year to its iconic geysers and wildlife attractions, including bison.

A U.S. Geological Survey team planned to tour the Norris Geyser Basin on Sunday to determine if the quake altered any of Yellowstone's geothermal features, such as geysers, mud pots and hot springs.

Several people reported having felt shaking they compared to the rumble of a tractor-trailer truck driving by, and a few items fell off the shelves at a local grocery store, a West Yellowstone police dispatcher said.

About 1,000 to 3,000 earthquakes strike Yellowstone each year, according to the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory, a research partnership of the park, the University of Utah and the U.S. Geological Survey.

The ancient super-volcano, or caldera, that lies beneath the surface of the park was discovered by scientists in recent years to be 2.5 times larger than previously thought, measured at 30 miles wide, according to the park.

Sunday's quake occurred near the center of an area of ground uplift that geologists have been tracking for several months, University of Utah seismologists said. Elevated seismic activity was also found in the area during a previous period of uplift from 1996 to 2003.

The recent spike in earthquake activity at Yellowstone is linked to the uplift, which in turn is caused by the upward movement of molten rock beneath the Earth's crust, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

Fortunately, there was no indication that the recent seismic activity signaled an impending eruption of the Yellowstone Caldera, scientists said.

Researchers with the observatory have said in the past that catastrophic eruptions by the super-volcano are unlikely for tens of thousands of years, though less extreme lava releases could occur within thousands of years.

The super-volcano's most cataclysmic eruption occurred 2 million years ago, covering half of North America with ash and killing prehistoric animals as far as away as modern-day Nebraska, according to the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory.

Heat from a vast chamber of molten rock beneath the caldera fuels the park's famous geothermal features, including Old Faithful Geyser, Yellowstone scientists say.

[Terra]

http://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/maps/webcorders.png

Here are some daily thumbs, if you are interested in Yellowstone. The map above represents the individual park stations.

http://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/daythumbs.php

[Cardillac]

@Zaya

Hi Zaya- I truly hope this finds you well;

the concept of the awaking of Yellowstone has always held my attention probably more than anything else since I first learned about it (like forget the banking system/geopolitics in comparison);

as an 11 yr. old lad I saw a Hollywood cheap B/C movie entitled "Devil at 4 O'clock" which had to do with a volcanic eruption on an island that just completely devastated everybody/anything except for a chosen few (I'm sure you're able to read the lines between otherwise you wouldn't be on this forum); this film scared the "s**t" out of me and I've never forgotten it; why?- I was always a very perceptive kid (sadly, not much has changed in my life in this perspective)-

as so many have stated: 'it's a fallacy to believe that no natural catastrophe could ever occur again'; absolutely right-

I'm certainly anything but a prophet of doom and gloom (anything but) but I tend to think we must watch Yellowstone very carefully and those in the vicinity simply must have 'quick and facile' exit plans in place-

contrary to what Bill Ryan has stated, I'm not yet convinced all the "Indigo" children being born on this planet at this time are here to progress us to the 'next level'-

it could be they're here to simply help us through the next mega natural catastrophe; but I hope I'm totally wrong-

Larry

[Zaya]

@Zaya

Hi Zaya- I truly hope this finds you well;

the concept of the awaking of Yellowstone has always held my attention probably more than anything else since I first learned about it (like forget the banking system/geopolitics in comparison);

as an 11 yr. old lad I saw a Hollywood cheap B/C movie entitled "Devil at 4 O'clock" which had to do with a volcanic eruption on an island that just completely devastated everybody/anything except for a chosen few (I'm sure you're able to read the lines between otherwise you wouldn't be on this forum); this film scared the "s**t" out of me and I've never forgotten it; why?- I was always a very perceptive kid (sadly, not much has changed in my life in this perspective)-

as so many have stated: 'it's a fallacy to believe that no natural catastrophe could ever occur again'; absolutely right-

I'm certainly anything but a prophet of doom and gloom (anything but) but I tend to think we must watch Yellowstone very carefully and those in the vicinity simply must have 'quick and facile' exit plans in place-

contrary to what Bill Ryan has stated, I'm not yet convinced all the "Indigo" children being born on this planet at this time are here to progress us to the 'next level'-

it could be they're here to simply help us through the next mega natural catastrophe; but I hope I'm totally wrong-

Larry

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Larry. Interesting though on the Indigos considering I believe I could be one of them... My interpretation of our job here has been more about energy work and being a major aid in the balancing act of positivity and negativity here on earth, but really it is all open to interpretation!

I agree, though, that we should be monitoring it closely (hence the thread). Especially with the amount of earthquakes occurring not only there but in other parts of the US (obviously including the LA quakes.) I want to see if I can find any numbers out there for total US earthquakes this year compared to other years...

What seems clear to me is that some kind of natural disaster is imminent. The earth seems unstable as do the citizens (in a big way). The energy right now is overwhelmingly a distressful one. I do not think it should be ignored...

[Cardillac]

@Zaya

many thanks for your latest posting- couldn't agree with you more;

if you feel you are an Indigo may God (or whatever) be with you-

as for myself, I hardly think I'm an Indigo (or maybe I missed something somewhere) but ever since my childhood I've questioned everything (continues to this day) but my curiosity/yearning for learning was first beat out of me by parents and subsequently through society but somehow managed to survive;

"The energy right now is overwhelmingly a distressful one. I do not think it should be ignored..."- no s**t-

"What seems clear to me is that some kind of natural disaster is imminent"- I agree; but it is yet unclear as to if it will be on the scope of Yellowstone

Larry

[Zaya]

if you feel you are an Indigo may God (or whatever) be with you-

So true :-/. I do believe that I am. I have been reading a book called "Adult Indigos" and it leads some insight into what it means to be one, and yea... godspeed and all that ha.



"What seems clear to me is that some kind of natural disaster is imminent"- I agree; but it is yet unclear as to if it will be on the scope of Yellowstone

Agree. I do not know if this is it. Unfortunately it could be anything. I am definitely not a clairvoyant. I am extremely empathic and intuitive, but not a seer of any kind, so I do not claim to have any kind of insider info on any sort of future event. I just have this nagging feeling, and I just happened to see that article on the 30 earthquakes that just happened there this morning, and it made me feel compelled to make a thread dedicated to discussion of Yellowstone seismic activity since there was not a specific one. Really we could be in for one hell of a ride and it could be ANY combination of things or events. We must keep vigilant either way.

[Lone Bean]

I've been following pattie brassard (I know, many think she's a nut case) on fb, and she does post some interesting things about an eminent Yellowstone eruption. I know she's really into fearporn, but I am drawn to her page nonetheless. I was hoping someone on Avalon would start a thread about Yellowstone, so thank-you very much Zaya!

[Zaya]

I found an interesting video on another site showing what the Norris Basin Yellowstone Geysers are doing right now. Apparently, the USGS has stopped reporting on geyser temps and activity. This is (allegedly) the most recent footage of the geyser activity.

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[Zaya]

From the USGS website, the "Hazards" section pertaining to Yellowstone. (Note that right now, it is labeled as GREEN in terms of threat level, that is to say "not a threat").


The Yellowstone Plateau in the northern Rocky Mountains in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho is centered on a youthful, active volcanic system with subterranean magma (molten rock), boiling, pressurized waters, and a variety of active faults with significant earthquake hazard. Within the next few decades, large and moderate earthquakes and hydrothermal explosions are certain to occur. Volcanic eruptions are less likely, but are ultimately inevitable in this active volcanic region.
Over the past 2.1 million years Yellowstone volcano has had three immense explosive volcanic eruptions that blanketed parts of the North American continent with ash and debris. Each of these eruptions created sizable calderas: basins formed by collapse of the ground after evacuation of subsurface magma reservoirs. The Yellowstone Caldera, which comprises nearly one-third of the land area in the park, formed 0.64 million years ago and was followed by dozens of less explosive but large lava flows, the last of which erupted 70,000 years ago. Basin and Range extension of the western U.S. has created a series of regional faults that are responsible for large and devastating earthquakes in the Yellowstone region along the Teton and Hebgen Lake Faults; most recently a devastating Ms 7.5 earthquake in 1959 killed 28 people. Yellowstone’s famous geothermal waters create fabulous hot springs and geysers but occasionally explode catastrophically to create hydrothermal explosion craters found throughout the park.

Source: http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_hazard_42.html

[Zaya]

Nothing too serious going on in the past few days... Seems to have been pretty calm since the 4th of June, 2014.


1.4 2014/06/11 00:40:09 44.799N 110.766W 6.2 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.8 2014/06/10 19:09:10 44.867N 110.686W 3.6 19 km (12 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.2 2014/06/09 02:43:46 44.791N 110.768W 4.8 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/06/08 18:48:40 44.793N 110.757W 4.5 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.6 2014/06/08 13:46:43 44.791N 110.764W 4.9 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/06/07 15:25:07 44.828N 110.736W 7.8 23 km (14 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/06/07 14:55:05 44.816N 110.738W 7.3 25 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.2 2014/06/07 11:49:00 44.797N 110.755W 5.8 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.3 2014/06/07 10:30:51 44.759N 111.147W 16.1 11 km ( 7 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.6 2014/06/07 10:30:36 44.760N 111.118W 12.0 11 km ( 7 mi) N of West Yellowstone, MT
2.1 2014/06/07 05:57:17 44.867N 111.256W 11.0 26 km (16 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.1 2014/06/07 01:53:52 44.794N 110.759W 4.7 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.7 2014/06/06 07:54:36 44.434N 111.291W 23.8 8 km ( 5 mi) SSE of Island Park, ID
1.2 2014/06/06 07:12:36 44.799N 110.748W 5.2 27 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.6 2014/06/06 05:43:42 44.800N 110.769W 5.6 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/06/05 21:05:55 44.790N 110.766W 4.5 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/06/05 19:32:37 44.818N 110.753W 8.7 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.5 2014/06/05 19:19:34 44.826N 110.746W 7.4 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.4 2014/06/05 14:25:20 44.814N 110.746W 7.5 25 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.5 2014/06/05 00:05:43 44.788N 110.758W 4.3 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/06/04 20:41:37 44.596N 110.730W 6.7 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.7 2014/06/04 20:32:42 44.607N 110.709W 9.7 32 km (20 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2014/06/04 19:09:04 44.801N 110.782W 4.1 27 km (17 mi) SSW of Gardiner, MT
1.0 2014/06/04 19:04:59 44.792N 110.783W 3.2 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/06/04 17:53:52 44.781N 110.769W 3.1 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.0 2014/06/04 16:17:25 44.735N 110.797W 8.0 26 km (16 mi) ENE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.4 2014/06/04 15:22:31 44.787N 110.765W 9.2 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.8 2014/06/04 15:21:25 44.785N 110.775W 1.9 28 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.3 2014/06/04 15:14:49 44.821N 110.744W 7.7 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.8 2014/06/04 14:12:49 44.792N 110.765W 4.7 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT

[Zaya]

Seems to be picking up activity a tiny bit. Still nothing over a 2.5, but definitely a tad more active this week.


0.9 2014/07/06 18:18:57 44.749N 111.114W 6.7 10 km ( 6 mi) N of West Yellowstone, MT
2.0 2014/07/06 10:04:00 44.579N 110.729W 8.7 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.4 2014/07/06 10:03:18 44.588N 110.728W 8.6 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2014/07/06 09:53:20 44.601N 110.721W 9.1 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.5 2014/07/06 09:50:20 44.580N 110.748W 8.9 30 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.6 2014/07/06 09:49:28 44.587N 110.736W 9.1 30 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.9 2014/07/06 09:48:06 44.551N 110.786W 8.5 28 km (18 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.8 2014/07/06 09:47:46 44.578N 110.739W 7.9 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.5 2014/07/06 09:46:42 44.561N 110.739W 4.7 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.5 2014/07/06 09:46:12 44.584N 110.719W -0.1 32 km (20 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.0 2014/07/06 09:45:31 44.575N 110.742W 8.2 30 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.9 2014/07/06 09:44:10 44.588N 110.728W 8.0 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.1 2014/07/06 09:42:58 44.596N 110.723W 9.1 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.6 2014/07/06 09:41:53 44.575N 110.732W 6.3 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.3 2014/07/06 09:41:33 44.580N 110.730W 5.7 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2014/07/06 09:41:11 44.581N 110.736W 8.7 31 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2014/07/03 04:09:36 44.770N 111.193W 10.8 14 km ( 9 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.2 2014/07/03 04:09:24 44.761N 111.174W 7.7 12 km ( 8 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.2 2014/07/03 04:08:25 44.772N 111.171W 8.3 13 km ( 8 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.1 2014/07/03 04:08:01 44.768N 111.216W 13.3 15 km ( 9 mi) NW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.4 2014/07/02 22:40:50 44.594N 111.115W 9.1 8 km ( 5 mi) S of West Yellowstone, MT
0.9 2014/07/02 12:41:24 44.767N 111.162W 13.2 13 km ( 8 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.7 2014/07/02 10:47:30 44.767N 111.075W 6.5 12 km ( 7 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.7 2014/07/02 09:35:36 44.764N 111.150W 10.4 12 km ( 7 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.3 2014/07/01 14:28:10 44.465N 110.960W 8.0 25 km (15 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.3 2014/07/01 14:22:49 44.462N 110.970W 7.7 25 km (15 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.1 2014/07/01 01:31:51 44.783N 111.162W 13.9 14 km ( 9 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT

(Source: http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.html)

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2a/28/00/00/11.si.jpg

Yellowstone supervolcano 'turned the asphalt into soup' shutting down Natl. Park's roads

"Extreme heat from a massive supervolcano underneath Yellowstone National Park is melting a major roadway at the popular summertime tourist attraction. Park officials have closed the area to visitors.

Firehole Lake Drive, a 3-mile-plus offshoot of the park’s Grand Loop that connects the Old Faithful geyser and the Madison Junction, is currently off limits. Park operators say the danger of stepping on seemingly solid soil into severely hot water is “high.”

“It basically turned the asphalt into soup. It turned the gravel road into oatmeal,” Yellowstone spokesman Dan Hottle said.

The affected roadway offers access to the Great Fountain Geyser, White Dome Geyser, and Firehole Lake.

“There are plenty of other great places to see thermal features in the park,” park public affairs chief Al Nash told The Weather Channel. “I wouldn’t risk personal injury to see these during this temporary closure.”

While thermal activity under the park often gives way to temperature fluctuations that can soften asphalt throughout Yellowstone, Hottle said the latest wave seems worse than usual.

“But it’s hard to tell if a thermal area is hotter than normal, because it’s always fluctuating here,” he said, according to the Los Angeles Times. “Road closures are business as usual for us.” "

" Maintenance workers now must lift the melted asphalt from the roadway, then apply sand and lime to soak up any remains, according to Hottle.

The spokesman said he hopes the road will be reopened by next week, adding that he does not believe the activity will significantly curb visits to the park.

Yellowstone’s supervolcano last erupted about 640,000 years ago, according to US Geological Survey records.

Last December, geologists reported that the magma reservoir under the supervolcano is two-and-a-half times larger than previous estimates.

"That's not to say it's getting any bigger,” said analysis team scientist James Farrell of the University of Utah. “It's just that our ability to see it is getting better."

The supervolcano has the potential to spew more than 240 cubic miles (1,000 cubic kilometers) of magma across Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming.

"We believe it will erupt again someday, but we have no idea when," Farrell told National Geographic.

In March, a viral video of bison stampeding through the park gave rise to rumors of an imminent eruption. "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_csBXWlUA4

[Zaya]

Wow! Thanks for posting this... I can feel it in my bones.. Yellowstone is up to something.

Here's a photo of the melting road (though it doesn't look like soup exactly, but it certainly looks MELTY):
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-DQ968_0711YE_G_20140711160830.jpg

Reminds me... I read this article the other day:


Scientists Report Yellowstone supervolcano bigger than previously thought

YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK -
The world's authority on Yellowstone National Park’s supervolcano says it's more than twice as big as scientists once thought.

Millions of people visit Yellowstone each year to see its geysers, fumaroles, hot springs and mud pots. It's the largest concentration of thermal features in the world.

The park sits on top of the world's largest active volcano -- the supervolcano. Its most recent eruption was more than 600,000 years ago. All that remains is the top, or caldera.

A map of the park with an overlay of the caldera shows it’s huge.

"Anytime you come to Yellowstone you have to drive uphill,” explained supervolcano scientist Dr. Robert Smith. “And the reason is this giant plume of magma is very hot, therefore it's ebullient, it’s low density and it just lifts the surface up."

Smith has been studying Yellowstone's earthquakes and its supervolcanoes for almost 60 years.

"And these giant eruptions in Yellowstone – the supervolcano, if you wish -- probably last many, many months, maybe even years," Smith said.

Not only that, they're huge, thousands of times as large as Mount St. Helens.

Smith and his students use seismographs to map the magma pool underneath Yellowstone's volcano and satellites to determine how much the land swells or bulges.

They found that the magma is, "2.5 times larger than we had originally imaged," Smith said.

The magma movement is signaled by earthquakes.

Smith mentioned the 4.8 magnitude Norris-area earthquake that damaged Lake Hotel last spring. "It's the biggest earthquake in 30 years."

So, how likely is it that the big one will blow soon?

"If we were to have another big eruption, it would affect a large area, on the order of several states,” Smith said. “But, as I said, that probability is very, very, very, very small. In my calculations, it's .0001 percent."

Smith says the magma pool isn't getting bigger. His team added more seismographs, and they're getting a clearer picture of the magma.



Source:

There is also a video on the source page that I cannot embed here.

UPDATE:

Wow. Since you bumped this and I did a little digging I am seeing even more recent evidence that this baby could blow... I just found a strange article where they claim the national guard are going to Yellowstone POSSIBLY for such an event...

Also found this quite interesting video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZR7p5kVzo

This talks about the firehole lake, the melting road, and the the 53 tremors in the past few days...

Here is the real kicker.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWk0En6gfw

This is the video that leaked showing the National Guard preparing for a "Yellowstone Event" Granted, I don't know that it is specific enough to prove anything, but an interesting thing nonetheless... Something to think about.

[Delight]

This is the video that leaked showing the National Guard preparing for a "Yellowstone Event" Granted, I don't know that it is specific enough to prove anything, but an interesting thing nonetheless... Something to think about.

I have been following the Yellowstone activity also. When I first began thinking about this potentialfor a major blow out, it seemed that IF it was a "small" volcanic event (as it has been in the past...small being relative), the immediate area would not support life. So, I wonder why National Gaurd being at Yellowstone is logical for any 'event" preparation. That is because miles from even a small event would be basically a 100% death zone from what I have read.

If one is concerned about Yellowstone, the best is move far east or south away from Yellowstone? It may be that far east US will be livable? Also, to still live nearby AND believe it is about to blow seems bound to create so many stress hormones that IF I did live nearby, I would stop believing myself in its danger. The National Gaurd IF the government is concerned it will blow soon would seem more reasonably to LEAVE the immediate area and not go TO the area.

So, in my mind, the placement of National Gaurd TO the area is actually support IMO that (maybe stupidly) the government has no concern that the super volcano is about to blow.

IMO the only good use of this story of yellowstone is to look at the way we have a civilization built in this kind of area. I look at this all as either learning to be unconcerned as in"so it goes" and forget the threat or actually respond reasonably by leaving the large zone around it. From all that I have read, at the moment there is no technology that can release the building pressure.

Then there is also the way we use these stories, looking at something we cannot control and maybe "transcending" our immediate physical focus. These events have happened and they have reason for the earth (IMO a sentient being with her own needs). Maybe a meta physical approach is gratitude and a relationship created?
Communication capacity of speaking warmly nd lovingly and listening to the earth about what we should do seems REAL IMO (to me). I feel earth loves us. I think it is appropriate to say "I am VERY grateful in the way you are able to act to release pressure of your crust in small ways so life can be accommodated on your surface!!!!! Whre should i live to best leave roomfor you AND me?" IMO, it is realistic to send continuous appreciation for the way earth DOES gently respond to the necessary release of energy and DOES shift in her activity as gently as possible.

[justntime2learn]

I have heard so many times that Yellowstone was about to erupt.

Anyone care to comment on the new "scare".

gHMAU-7qAxg

"Published on Apr 11, 2016
More and more changes are being reported and this time the report comes from one of our subscribers at Bunker Report on Facebook. An article from The Billings Gazette tells the recent story of a Cody photographer who has lived in the area all of his life. He reports changes he has never seen before.
STAY AT THE READY..."

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Panic? Yellowstone Seismographs Taken Down—I Called To Ask Why and Here’s What The Seismologist Said

[Cardillac]

I've always felt the Yellowstone caldera could be the biggest natural event that could pose a threat to the existence of humanity at least in the northern hemisphere;

if my read sources are correct the Yellowstone caldera is much larger than originally assumed and if geologists have correct information Yellowstone blows ca. every 360.000 yrs; according to their sources the next eruption in over-due-

if my read sources are correct Yellowstone began awakening in the 1920's (the slow tipping of the lake from north to south began at that time)-

don't know if my sources are reliable but supposedly the geyser know as 'old faithfull' has become very erratic meaning something is afoot in this area;

Yellowstone has always been one of my pet peeves (a real/major threat); our planet has experienced many catastrophes in the past and for any of us to believe that a major catastrophe could never, ever affect us again is, in my humble opinion, not in touch with reality-

"saving the planet" is our planet's job (once our planet has had enough of us human parasites), not ours-

just my humble/cheap opinion-

please be well all-

Larry

[Bill Ryan]

The article referenced in the YouTube video in post #1 is this one:

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/hydrothermal-feature-roils-shoshone-river-in-cody/article_5030518a-c13f-5a8f-9843-36ca0634ecbb.html

Boiling to life: Hydrothermal feature roils Shoshone River in Cody

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/1c/71ccdf42-7089-5420-a2b7-40514ec50d02/570ad1ee2d700.image.jpg

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/e0/ce057942-7d3a-5425-918b-0c32d6949995/570ad1ee76b45.image.jpg

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/a8/ca87e9d4-3b07-5fbd-b93d-9d70757bfaf8/570ad1eee4a9f.image.jpg

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/28/f287d65f-42ca-5aa6-a2cb-0cf65a1430bd/570ad1eeb303a.image.jpg

Maybe it could be called Colter’s Heck.

A small hydrothermal feature spouted to life March 25 in the Shoshone River where it meanders through Cody — just east of Yellowstone National Park’s more famous geyser features — spewing a brew of heated gases into the water for about four days.

“I was surprised to see it,” said Dewey Vanderhoff, a Cody photographer, who captured shots of the venting. “I’ve lived here all of my life and I’ve never seen it.”

Hot past

The Cody region was once called Colter’s Hell in memory of early explorer and trapper John Colter. He visited the region in the early 1800s after finishing a cross-country trek with two guys named Lewis and Clark. Colter noted the Cody-area geysers, hot springs and sulfurous smelling river and he told others. Back then the Shoshone River was known as the Stinkingwater or Stinking river for its sulfurous smell.

Over the ages, most of those hydrothermal features have subsided, although geyser cones, hot springs, sinkholes, a sulfur-permeated spring and an abandoned sulfur mine and mill still stand testament to the area’s more active past.

“We’re kind of in a lull compared to when John Colter was in this area,” said Jason Burkhardt, a Cody-based fisheries biologist for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. “There was substantially more geothermal activity that was occurring back then.”

Plume

Vanderhoff said he found out about the plume when a friend telephoned on Monday morning and joked that he had “proof positive” that the Yellowstone supervolcano was about to blow. His friend said a fissure had opened up in the river and “we’re all about to die,” Vanderhoff recounted.

So Vanderhoff grabbed his camera and went to snap some photos. The vent was just behind the Best of the West store, down inside the narrow canyon that the Shoshone River has carved through the Chugwater geologic formation’s red stone. He said there was an old rock feature about the size of a bathtub with water gurgling out from four or five holes — “like jets in a Jacuzzi.” He said the plume appeared to have a “substance” like Jell-O since it didn’t break up.

“It was pretty impressive,” he said. “The river right there is a really dark green. With a polarizing filter it really popped out.”

Vanderhoff posted images of the vent and the yellowish plume it sent downstream on his Facebook page. The posting received 2,000 views, which Vanderhoff called “unprecedented” for his page.

By Wednesday, though, the venting had stopped, prompting Vanderhoff to call it a “transient geologic phenomenon.” Then on Friday the venting started again, so Vanderhoff grabbed his video camera this time.

Old story

Burkhardt said such vents are nothing new along the Shoshone River below Buffalo Bill Dam, which is about 4 miles west of Cody.

“There are a number of springs that add hydrogen sulfide water to the river,” he said. “At certain times of the year it is lethal to fish.”

Hydrogen sulfide is a colorless gas that smells like rotten eggs.

In one stretch of the river through town, Burkhardt said surveys by his crew pick up no fish — a river dead zone — because of the high hydrogen sulfide content in the water. That concentration eventually dissipates about 1.5 miles downstream from DeMaris hot spring, he said.

So for most of the year, except during high water flows in the spring, fish just below the dam and fish downstream of the hot springs are largely separate populations because of what Burkhardt called a chemical barrier.

Despite the chemicals in the water, Burkhardt said there’s never been any evidence they accumulate in fish to the point that they are dangerous for humans or animals to consume.

The Department of Environmental Quality took water samples above and below the feature in 2012, but not of what the vent emits, and found a slight increase in the water’s pH from mildly basic to mildly acidic, according to Jason Martineau of the DEQ’s Sheridan office. That swing isn’t enough to affect the river’s plant and animal life, he said. And even if it did, “We’re not going to be able to fix the problem,” he added.

Warm place

Geologic studies have shown the Cody area sits atop a hot spot thanks to a large fold in the earth called the Horse Center anticline. One well (http://ngds.egi.utah.edu/files/GL00994/GL00994.pdf) drilled near DeMaris hot springs produced 208 gallons per minute of 93-degree water. Maximum temperatures of the underground water has been measured at 103 degrees.

The well and hot springs are close to the southeastern edge of the anticline. On the eastern edge is a 2-mile long deposit of travertine, rock created by mineral springs like those found at Mammoth in Yellowstone National Park, further evidence of the area’s more active geologic past.

The hydrothermal system is estimated to extend about 7 miles south of Cody.

Growing up in the northwestern Wyoming town, Vanderhoff said the town’s adjacent hot springs was tied into the “colorful history” of the area. Next to the springs once stood a nightclub, house of prostitution and a pool that he used to sneak into as a high school student. The venting hydrothermal feature is just “one little exclamation point” in that lively history, he said.

Since the venting in the Shoshone River stopped shortly after Vanderhoff posted the Facebook photos on a day so close to April Fool’s, he joked that he “may have to eat a lot of crow.”

“I hope it comes back,” he said. “Otherwise I’ll be made a fool.”

[Carmody]

Real activity will very likely be tied to astrological alignments. They always are, just like that of radio interference patterns, as discovered and documented by RCA.

So, when I hear about the 'supervolcano' going active, I check the astrological alignments, and invariably say 'meh'..as there is nothing happening... and do the equivalent of changing the TV channel to something relevant.

[Hervé]

^^^ What Carmody is referring to about RCA and planetary alignments is summarized in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65043-Carrington-Event-Nov.-13&p=752470&viewfull=1#post752470) <---

[Carmody]

^^^ What Carmody is referring to about RCA and planetary alignments is summarized in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65043-Carrington-Event-Nov.-13&p=752470&viewfull=1#post752470) <---

from the link:


The nice thing about Nelson's findings is that all of these factors are predictable and can be calculated far into the future. This suggests that it may be possible to predict solar storms via computer algorithms. In fact, I discovered one ham radio enthusiast who attempted to use part of Nelson's Theory in his own computer program to calculate a 'Nelson index' for each day. It's a crude attempt, and it doesn't take into account all of the factors the Nelson discovered, but it seems that he did have some preliminary success at accounting for past solar activity. Nelson believed his method brought about a 85% success rate in predicting future solar storms.


those are 'astronomical' geometric alignments, and then there are astrological geometric alignments, which is the same, but as measured from the earth.

Note the found 85% accuracy for predicting solar storms and their nature, which is the same figure found for predicting astrological aspects, which is the same figure for predicting the day of a given human birth from their considered conception date. All connected, fundamentally. All part of the 3d reality matrix as it erupts from the multidimensional 2d field system.

So, when someone screams "yellowstone is having big gaseous stomach troubles! run away, run away!"...and nothing is happening in astrological and astronomical alignments, their given screaming mess..means....nothing. Nothing at all.

When the astronomical alignments and the astrological alignments are both 'on line' and their energies are up, together, then you can begin to worry a bit. Which is thankfully, fairly rare. AND PREDICTABLE. EXCEEDINGLY PREDICTABLE.

This is why the elites do not want you to pay attention to astrology, as it is about the flow of humans, both the group and the individual, in the minutiae, through time. With entirely predictable pressures and types of pressures. And in all of human history, all of earthly existence, it has never been wrong, and never will be.

Which begs some serious questions about the nature of reality.

Which can be answered, once the hurdle of acceptance of these given factual aspects has been reached.

[MorningSong]

It's very interesting to me how certain threads pop up just as I have recently read something about the topic... may not be a coincidence and I think not...

Anyhoe... I just happened uon this a few days ago... what d' ya'll think?




NOTHING IS GOING ON IN YELLOWSTONE PARK AS OF 4/7/16 - SUPERSTATION 95 IS INCORRECT AND I WENT ON RECORD WITH THEM EARLIER TODAY,BEFORE THEIR BROADCAST

I LIVE WITHIN 50 AIR MILES FROM YNP AND INTIMATELY AWARE OF YELLOWSTONE AS I HAVE ON THE SPOT COMMUNICATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THE KNOW AND HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN 1000 MICRO TREMORS HAPPENED AND COULDN’T EVEN FEEL THEM-WEATHER PERMITTING I WILL BE FLYING OVER IT TOMORROW PHOTOGRAPHING CERTAIN AREAS-CHECKING THE MAIN VENT IN THE LAKE FOR ANY ABNORMAL ICE MELT-FWIW YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME ON THIS --SQ-THIS WAS MY REPLY ON 11:08 AM THIS MORNING- HAL,YOUR FRIENDS INFO IS ONLY ANECDOTAL AND IS NOT BASED ON ANY EMPIRICAL DATA NOT TO MENTION HIS HEALTH ISSUES- SQ MY APOLOGIES AS I ORIGINALLY HAD TYPO SAYING 6 AS IN JUNE-I MEANT 4/7/16

Apr 6, 2016

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1740


April 8, 2016
Did You Fall For This 'Tool Of Mass Distraction'? Yellowstone Park - My Perspective By Steve Quayle - 'The Most Serious Super Event Is Not Yellowstone But The Loss Of Our Country To The New World Order Takeover Devils And Their Traitorous Plans'

http://allnewspipeline.com/Yellowstone_Ready_To_Blow_Not_So_Fast.php

I even went over to the USGS YVO to take a peek and found an essence of "nothing to see here, folks, move along":


Five Things Most People Get Wrong About the Yellowstone Volcano (2015)

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/faqs_misconceptions.html

I do understand that Quayle is not a geologist, volcanologist, or even a scientist, but then again, sometimes the truth comes from other sources... I am not one of those sources, since I can't go and see the YNP myself, and I probably wouldn't understand what I was seeing anyway. Anyone's guess outside the firezone is probably as good as mine. I do wish we could trust those who "see and tell", though. If only someone would tell it like it is (or near to it). In the meanwhile, I keep watching and wondering and trying to understand like the rest of us...

[justntime2learn]

Maybe our galactic friends are helping us out with Yellowstone ?

84LsnmwtvWg

"HEADZ UP: THE LIGHTS AROUND VOLCANOES ARE " NOT " UFOs/ORBs OR ALIENS, HEREs THE TRUTH"

"Published on Apr 10, 2016
4-9-16 M2U01802 YELLOWSTONE LIKELY TO ERUPT SOON!! ALSO A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF TRACER LIGHTS, DAYTIME
AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING ORBS/UFOS, IT ENERGY FOLKS"

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[wnlight]

My dowsing tells me that the Yellowstone hot-spot will not cause a major eruption/explosion in the next 400 years. By major, I mean an eruption the size of Mt Saint Helens or greater.

[observer]

My sister and her children all live close to the Yellowstone Caldera, as a result I've had my attention on this debate for many years.

Yellowstone remains a, "wait-and-see" issue, with me. I wasn't aware of the new vent boiling-up in Cody, WY. From my many years vigil on this Yellowstone issue, I can testify that the tectonic hotspot that caused Yellowstone Park has been gradually moving East (https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/volcano.htm), over many millions of years, and has erupted multiple times across a wide band of geography, leaving a trail of caldera as evidence to this tectonic displacement.

I've said for a long time, if Yellowstone were going to erupt, as that eruption has been predicted from the geologic record of frequency, it would have to happen at a location East of the current caldera.

By "record of frequency", I mean the obvious amount of time that has elapsed between each super-eruption of this hot-spot, as recorded in the geologic record, i.e. roughly every 600,000 to 800,000 years
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera)
The Cody data perks my attention....

[Old Snake]

Earth quake lights are indeed an indicator that tention is being building up, years ago we discussed this with Friedeman Freund.
But as far as my knowledge goes, no sure conclusions can be taken from this phenomen.
I would choose "to be out of Dodge''

Old Snake

[Mike Gorman]

Real activity will very likely be tied to astrological alignments. They always are, just like that of radio interference patterns, as discovered and documented by RCA.

So, when I hear about the 'supervolcano' going active, I check the astrological alignments, and invariably say 'meh'..as there is nothing happening... and do the equivalent of changing the TV channel to something relevant.

Interesting you should say that - I agree with you about celestial influences, and a very sound alternative science group called 'Suspicious Observers' headed by a young man on Youtube (well worth checking out) has documented the relationship between solar activity with Seismic events on Earth (volcanoes, earthquakes...all related). In time we will see this relationship and accept it-I'm certain.

[observer]

My sister and her children all live close to the Yellowstone Caldera, as a result I've had my attention on this debate for many years.

Yellowstone remains a, "wait-and-see" issue, with me. I wasn't aware of the new vent boiling-up in Cody, WY. From my many years vigil on this Yellowstone issue, I can testify that the tectonic hotspot that caused Yellowstone Park has been gradually moving East (https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/volcano.htm), over many millions of years, and has erupted multiple times across a wide band of geography, leaving a trail of caldera as evidence to this tectonic displacement.

I've said for a long time, if Yellowstone were going to erupt, as that eruption has been predicted from the geologic record of frequency, it would have to happen at a location East of the current caldera.

By "record of frequency", I mean the obvious amount of time that has elapsed between each super-eruption of this hot-spot, as recorded in the geologic record, i.e. roughly every 600,000 to 800,000 years
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera)
The Cody data perks my attention....

As an addendum to my earlier comment #10, I'd like to add a few links that I bookmarked back in the Fall of '15.

This anomaly is being blamed on underground springs by geologists, [and is being called a "landslide". If this is a landslide, then where is the downhill sump where the mass of earth slid into?]

One must keep in mind this entire area is on a tectonic plate boundary, which is being blamed for the Hotspot that caused the Yellowstone Caldera. Were that Hotspot moving in an Easterly direction, as evidenced by the combination of a few anomalies, could these be pointing to a near-future event?

This crack appeared, in geological terms, just a short distance from Yellowstone Park.

"Giant crack opens up in Wyoming" -
http://earthsky.org/earth/giant-crack-central-wyoming-october-2015

"Massive crack in earth mysteriously opens up in Bighorn Mountains,Wyoming" -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkfGmP-58gU

With so many recent dire warnings around the "Ring Of Fire", should we be paying more attention to Yellowstone?

[Calz]

Lack of astrological aspects aside ... check out the vid.

__________________


Yellowstone Eruption In 2016? Shocking New Video Shows What Is Really Going On At Yellowstone

By Michael Snyder, on April 17th, 2016


Over the past week, our planet has been hit by large earthquake after large earthquake, and according to Volcano Discovery there are 38 volcanoes around the world that are erupting right now. We have seen a dramatic spike in global seismic activity that is unlike anything that we have seen in ages, and that is why what is going on at Yellowstone is so incredibly alarming. Geologists tell us that a full-blown eruption of the Yellowstone supervolcano would have up to 2,000 times the power of the Mount St. Helens volcanic eruption of 1980, and approximately two-thirds of the country would immediately become uninhabitable. As you will see below, there are signs that something big is getting ready to happen at Yellowstone, and if it does erupt all of our lives will be permanently changed forever.

I want to share with you some footage from Yellowstone that was recorded on Thursday night. In this video, it appears to be as bright as day even though it is the middle of the night, you can see a whole host of geysers steaming violently, and Old Faithful just keeps going off over and over…



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL5vG8uRYe8


This stunning footage was posted by a YouTube user known as Kat Martin 2016, and the following is what she had to say about the video that you just saw…



There are places s(t)eaming I have never seen steam before….and also note that the bright ground is back. There are no shadows, so it is not from above! As you know the cameras were froze up last night, so we could not see what was going ….or so we thought LOL…I found a way. Somehow (don’t ask me how), the Geyser Observation Study site was able to capture the ENTIRE night with NO freeze ups and cutting in and out….how is THAT? Anyway, I got it and slowed it down so you can see better. Old Faithful had weird seismos last night, and was going off constantly.

But it wasn’t just that one night. The weird activity at Yellowstone has continued, and you can watch even more recent footage that Kat Martin has posted right here and right here.

So what does this mean?

I don’t know, but watching that footage definitely got my attention.

And it is interesting to note that just a few weeks ago the Shoshone River changed color and started boiling without any warning whatsoever…


http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/yellowstone-eruption-in-2016-shocking-new-video-shows-what-is-really-going-on-at-yellowstone

[Hervé]

Re: the video above, when I was working in Northern Ontario during winter and was seeing smoke out of chimneys going straight up vertical, it's a signal to wrap up up your ears and nose: It's very cold out - in the minus 30 - 40 C range...

... so what does one expect of a geyser field (i.e. boiling water spewing up) of doing during a winter night under moonshine?

As for the "flash" seen at 04:05, to me, it looks like a ray of moonshine passing by for that particular frame of the time lapse video... and lighting up the steam cloud. Just as a ray of sunshine would do on a sunny/cloudy day.

[Calz]

Vid from last week. Not winter (although Colorado did get hit with a snow storm within the last few days).

The witness suggests steam in areas not seen before.

I've been to Yellowstone and never saw anything like that (albeit during the summer and not at night).

Who knows?

[Hervé]

As for the Yellowstone caldera itself, as I wrote here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199732&viewfull=1#post199732) in my conclusion:



http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4193/3437/1600/mapa%2011.jpg


These are the current recognized hot spots/plumes world wide. What's known with certainty is the relative displacement between crust and plume. What's unknown is if the plumes are totally fixed as in the 19 degrees latitude thing or wandering as in the shift of the magnetic poles would indicate. To be resolved.


My opinion on the Yellowstone threat is that it would be less explosive (but still catastrophic) than at the time of the original formation of the caldera, simply because the channels are already in place which wasn't the case at the time of the first intrusion. Now, in the case of a new crustal shift with respect to mantle, that would be another story... because that would require another outlet to be punched through.

Hope this helps clarify the matter better?

[Hervé]

Vid from last week. Not winter (although Colorado did get hit with a snow storm within the last few days).
[...]

Night started with a clear sky indicative of high pressure, cold air atmosphere... and there's snow on the ground... right?

Related:
Winter Storm Warning for Colorado – In mid-April (http://iceagenow.info/winter-storm-warning-colorado-mid-april/)

April 14, 2016 (http://iceagenow.info/winter-storm-warning-colorado-mid-april/) Robert (http://iceagenow.info/author/xilef/) 14 Comments (http://iceagenow.info/winter-storm-warning-colorado-mid-april/#comments)
Snowfall accumulations of 2 to 4 feet (60 to 120 cm) can be expected through early Sunday. Continue reading Winter Storm Warning for Colorado – In mid-April → (http://iceagenow.info/winter-storm-warning-colorado-mid-april/#more-18091)

[observer]

The "suggested video" 'bot on my YouTube account is tuned to my interest in Yellowstone. I see most new videos on activity in the area the day they are posted.

I also saw the video that Calz posted in comment #14 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1061697&viewfull=1#post1061697)the day it appeared on YouTube. I didn't use it because I feel strongly that the Hot Spot which caused Yellowstone is moving Eastward.

If there were any volcanic activity at the old hot-spot location (600,000+ years, now and counting), it would have to be concentrated on the Eastern side of the old Caldera, or completely outside of that zone entirely.




[....snip]

My opinion on the Yellowstone threat is that it would be less explosive (but still catastrophic) than at the time of the original formation of the caldera, simply because the channels are already in place which wasn't the case at the time of the first intrusion. Now, in the case of a new crustal shift with respect to mantle, that would be another story... because that would require another outlet to be punched through.
- emphasis by observer

Hope this helps clarify the matter better?


This is why anomalous geological activity to the east of Yellowstone Park is worth looking at....

See:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1060638&viewfull=1#post1060638

And:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1061482&viewfull=1#post1061482

[Hervé]

Again, from here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199732&viewfull=1#post199732) <---:


[...]
For Yellowstone, here is the most recent seismic model (2009):


http://media.education.nationalgeographic.com/assets/photos/000/116/11653_r646x20000.jpg?e74f43976b28264a42c02da45a489f692e95064d
Caption: Seismic imaging was used by University of Utah scientists to construct this 3-D picture of the Yellowstone hotspot plume of hot and molten rock that feeds the shallower magma chamber (not shown) beneath Yellowstone National Park, outlined in green at the surface, or top of the illustration. The Yellowstone caldera, or giant volcanic crater, is outlined in red. State boundaries are shown in black. The park, caldera and state boundaries also are projected to the bottom of the picture to better illustrate the plume's tilt. Researchers believe "blobs" of hot rock float off the top of the plume, then rise to recharge the magma chamber located 3.7 miles to 10 miles beneath the surface at Yellowstone. The illustration also shows a region of warm rock extending southwest from near the top of the plume. It represents the eastern Snake River Plain, where the Yellowstone hotspot triggered numerous cataclysmic caldera eruptions before the plume started feeding Yellowstone 2.05 million years ago.

http://www.wildlifeextra.com/resources/listimg/news/2009_jan/yellowstone_plume@large.jpg

Caption: This is a cross section of the plume of hot and molten rock that tops out about 50 miles beneath Yellowstone National Park, and tilts downward to the northwest to a depth of at least 410 miles. The plume is mostly hot rock with about 1 to 2 percent molten rock. Researches believe "blobs" of hot rock slowly detach from the top of the plume and rise upward to recharge the magma chamber that lies from 3.7 to 10 miles beneath Yellowstone. The chamber is also mostly hot rock, but with a sponge-like structure containing about 8 to 15 percent molten rock.

[...]

... which shows that the "plume" hasn't migrated... and is still under that same Yellowstone Caldera.


https://haysvillelibrary.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/yellowstone-plume-university-of-utah-2.jpg

http://d29qn7q9z0j1p6.cloudfront.net/content/roypta/364/1845/2055/F2.large.jpg

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png



The above are the various, current models derived from the recorded seismic data. They show that there is no new eastward migration of either plume or magma chambers.

[observer]

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From the links you offered in your comment, Amzer, I have discovered there is another reference to the size of the Known Magma Chamber under Yellowstone.

Taken from a link you offered in an exchange with Snowbird, in the thread, "Yellowstone Announced to be Much Bigger Than Originally Thought" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199139&viewfull=1#post199139), I discovered data from an array of sensors funded by the National Science Foundation referred to in the article as the "MT survey".

From the article:
"Past imaging efforts have used seismic waves to detect the border between molten and solid rock. These have indicated that the mantle plume originates somewhere deep under Idaho and slopes eastward as it rises to meet the surface under Wyoming.

The new picture roughly agrees with this, but suggests the area heated by the plume may be far more extensive than indicated by the seismic data. It relies on what is termed magneto-telluric (MT) readings, which register subtle changes in the Earth's conductivity and magnetic fields. These register differences in temperature and composition of the rock and fluids, as these change alter the conductivity of the crust."

From the image, one can find in that article, I isolated the MT data portion, from which one can clearly see a large area of magma extending far beyond the Eastern borders of the Yellowstone Park.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/MT%20data%20Yellowstone_zpslvpnipgt.gif (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/POV_At_Exit_0/media/MT%20data%20Yellowstone_zpslvpnipgt.gif.html)

This data goes further to support the concerns I've expressed in earlier comments....

[Hervé]

From that same post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199139&viewfull=1#post199139) referred to above:


[...]
PS: Original article on Yellowstone: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...m_campaign=rss (http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/04/yellowstone-volcanic-plume-much-larger-than-expected.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)

Which dutchsinse didn't seem to have read or understood as it states:


The resulting picture suggests that the molten rock of the mantle plume seen in seismic images is only the core of a much larger volume of hot crust. Although this area isn't molten, the high temperatures allow water to pick up elevated levels of salt, which enables its detection through the MT monitoring equipment. The plume itself seems to slope down a bit more gently, and extend much further under Idaho than the seismic data had suggested. The MT data also confirms suggestions that the rock within the plume doesn't become molten until it reaches a depth of about 250km.

[observer]

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It appears to me as though you are arguing a moot point, Amzer.

All the data combined, the seismic data that you are referring to, and the MT data (which shows a much larger area of magma than previously understood), by combining this knowledge, one comes to the conclusion that there is an existing potential for an easterly plum migration.

Even from the seismic data you are referencing, in the last image from your comment #20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019), the seismic sourced data clearly indicates the location of the [Known Magma Chamber] to extend beyond the eastern border of Yellowstone Park.




[....snip]

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

[Hervé]

I give up against "confirmation bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)" since it seems too much of the terminology is misunderstood.

[observer]

^^^^
Ad hominem, Amzer? Is that the best you can do?

[Exactly the same argument can be used against your position.]

[Hervé]

What is displayed on that diagram (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062063&viewfull=1#post1062063) is a "plume" expanding SW with its accompanying heat column... it's not going east.

Hence, that's not a "moot" point.

[observer]

^^^^

Oh! Really!!!

What I see in that diagram is a clearly existing "Known Magma Chamber" extending beyond the border of the Yellowstone Caldera in an easterly direction (upper right portion of the diagram), accompanied by an area under that Known Magma Chamber titled, "Newly Discovered Magma Reservoir".

By the color variations in the diagram one can clearly see the Newly Discovered Magma Reservoir is adding heat to the Known Magma Chamber.

Any southwesterly indication on the diagram is irrelevant, as the diagram clearly shows the sub-Mantle Plume adding heat to the Newly Discovered Magma Reaervoir, through the Upper Most Mantle, which in turn, is adding heat to the Known Magma Chamber.

Granted, the area in the Known Magma Chamber is indicated as the hottest directly under the Yellowstone Caldera, but (and this is a BIG observation), the area of the Known Magma Chamber is closest to the surface to the eastern part of the existing caldera - and extends completely out of the park.

Given the understanding that any future eruption would take the path of least resistance, it stands to reason the data shows the greatest threat-potential lies to the East of Yellowstone.

[ThePythonicCow]

Even from the seismic data you are referencing, in the last image from your comment #20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019), the seismic sourced data clearly indicates the location of the plum to extend beyond the eastern border of Yellowstone Park.
I'm confused - the images I see posted in, and linked from, comment #20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019), all seem to show the large, deep, plume, extending to the NW of the Yellowstone caldera, as one goes deeper below the surface, not to the SE. What image or data "clearly indicates the location of the plum to extend beyond the eastern border of Yellowstone Park." ?

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What I see in that diagram is a clearly existing "Known Magma Chamber" extending beyond the border of the Yellowstone Caldera in an easterly direction (upper right portion of the diagram), accompanied by an area under that Known Magma Chamber titled, "Newly Discovered Magma Reservoir".
Ah - yes - the "Known Magma Chamber", near the surface, does extend the other way, SE of the Yellowstone Caldera.

While the deeper, larger, plume, extends the other way, NW of the Yellowstone Caldera.

So my preliminary conclusion is that this dispute arises from everyone not using the terms "plume" and "magma chamber" in the same, consistent way as everyone else.

[observer]

Paul,

Magma follows in the path of least resistance. Try to follow what I said in comment #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062097&viewfull=1#post1062097). My argument is all quite logical, it simply goes beyond the current geologically accepted Model.

Add Text: [It would be interesting to know when the diagram Amzer posted was actually made, and if there is any recent update to the tempeture of the Known Magma Chamber. ]

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul,

Magma follows in the path of least resistance. Try to follow what I said in comment #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062097&viewfull=1#post1062097). My argument is all quite logical, it simply goes beyond the current geologically accepted Model.

I believe I understand and find reasonable your argument.

Where I think things went astray was in referring to the SE extension as a plume, not a magma chamber :).

[observer]

^^^^
Thank you Paul for your input. I have gone back and corrected my error to [alleviate] any further confusion....

[ThePythonicCow]

^^^^
Thank you Paul for your input. I have gone back and corrected my error to elevate any further confusion....

Good :).

[Calz]

^^^^
Thank you Paul for your input. I have gone back and corrected my error to elevate any further confusion....

From a captivated fan in the cheap seats ... I love the humor ... but would that be "eleviate" ... or else I am indeed *damn* confused :)

[Sierra]

Alleviate actually... :bigsmile:

[observer]

Thank you Calz, but we were both wrong. My spell check changed the word to elevate, as I was typing fast and typed the same word as you, but I was actually after "alleviate". As Sierra has indicated. It's corrected!

Now.... could we all return to comment #21 and resume the debate with all the terminology corrections, so that this issue can be resolved, or at least acknowledged as a possibility....



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From the links you offered in your comment, Amzer, I have discovered there is another reference to the size of the Known Magma Chamber under Yellowstone.

Taken from a link you offered in an exchange with Snowbird, in the thread, "Yellowstone Announced to be Much Bigger Than Originally Thought" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199139&viewfull=1#post199139), I discovered data from an array of sensors funded by the National Science Foundation referred to in the article as the "MT survey".

From the article:
"Past imaging efforts have used seismic waves to detect the border between molten and solid rock. These have indicated that the mantle plume originates somewhere deep under Idaho and slopes eastward as it rises to meet the surface under Wyoming.

The new picture roughly agrees with this, but suggests the area heated by the plume may be far more extensive than indicated by the seismic data. It relies on what is termed magneto-telluric (MT) readings, which register subtle changes in the Earth's conductivity and magnetic fields. These register differences in temperature and composition of the rock and fluids, as these change alter the conductivity of the crust."

From the image, one can find in that article, I isolated the MT data portion, from which one can clearly see a large area of magma extending far beyond the Eastern borders of the Yellowstone Park.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/MT%20data%20Yellowstone_zpslvpnipgt.gif (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/POV_At_Exit_0/media/MT%20data%20Yellowstone_zpslvpnipgt.gif.html)

This data goes further to support the concerns I've expressed in earlier comments....

[Hervé]

My point (post # 20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019)) was:



[...]

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png



The above are the various, current models derived from the recorded seismic data. They show that there is no new eastward migration of either plume or magma chambers.

[/CENTER]

That same post also mentions this:



Caption: This is a cross section of the plume of hot and molten rock that tops out about 50 miles beneath Yellowstone National Park, and tilts downward to the northwest to a depth of at least 410 miles. The plume is mostly hot rock with about 1 to 2 percent molten rock. Researches believe "blobs" of hot rock slowly detach from the top of the plume and rise upward to recharge the magma chamber that lies from 3.7 to 10 miles beneath Yellowstone. The chamber is also mostly hot rock, but with a sponge-like structure containing about 8 to 15 percent molten rock.
In other words, it's far from a lava lake that's under there.



Update:

observer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062125&viewfull=1#post1062125): From the image, one can find in that article, I isolated the MT data portion, from which one can clearly see a large area of magma extending far beyond the Eastern borders of the Yellowstone Park. Not actual magma, only hydrothermally heated rocks (see post # 22 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062040&viewfull=1#post1062040))

[observer]

Oh! I see how this works now!!!

You take the words from an article (from which I produced a diagram) that shows a much larger area of superheated rock, which extends far to the East, beyond the boundary of the Yellowstone Caldara, and you then apply those words to some undescribed "chamber".

You then Ignore the fact that in the diagram you produced, using the words, "Newly Discovered Magma Chamber" and "Known Magma Chamber", and suggest the substance in some unspecified "chamber" is nothing more than "hydrothermally heated rocks, but with a sponge-like structure containing about 8 to 15 percent molten rock"
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I guess this is an example of how someone can have it both ways!!!

I see now why a fictional character in a popular sitcom regularly makes the claim, "geology isn't a real science".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvDawJSPg8

add text:With this comment, I will exit this debate. I can see there is no way to convince those firmly stuck in the conventional model of any alternate possibilities. This is becoming a waste of my time.

[MorningSong]

Observer, I appreciate your input to the discussion. Please don't abandon it. Gives me something to mentally chew on.

We'll work through it and maybe figure this stuff out. That's why we're here, after all.

I have been following patiently the work of Mitch Batross, ex-owner of the site Earth Changes Media and now writing at Science of Cycles, who has been trying to figure things out for a long time.

His understanding of what's going on is this:

http://i2.wp.com/scienceofcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/new_equation-2012_m.png?w=600

New Equation:
Increase Charged Particles Decreased Magnetic Field → Increase Outer Core Convection → Increase of Mantle Plumes → Increase in Earthquake and Volcanoes → Cools Mantle and Outer Core → Return of Outer Core Convection (Mitch Battros - July 2012)

[observer]

^^^^
Thank you for the invitation to return, MorningSong.

Amzer Zo's condescending tone at my earlier improper use of terminology, when he well knew what I was trying to say, frustrated me enough to want to leave this debate.

I'm a firm believer in the Electric Model of the Universe as proposed by Wallace Thornhill and David Talbott, and have spent a good amount of time during my sojurn at Avalon referencing their work at the Thunderbolt Project (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA). There can be no doubt, the Electric Model is driving the tectonic forces on the planet, with a direct relationship to the sun's activity.

Here's something for you to "chew" on:

Established fact - The North American Plate is moving westward. It has been for millions of years. At the same time the Juan de Fuca Plate is moving eastward causing a subduction zone at the boundary. All tectonic activity occurs in the upper crust, or lithosphere, above the mantle of magma (beneath).

Now, look carefully at the diagram that has caused so much controversy:
https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

Notice that below the "Uppermost Mantle" there's a "Mantle Plume" with directional arrows indicating a westward movement. Above that Mantle Plume there is a "Newly Discovered Magma Chamber" with a "Known Magma Chamber" above that.

Take particular note, the "Known Magma Chamber" is located in the "Upper Crust" (the lithosphere) which is not defined in the diagram. That "Known Magma Chamber" has remained stationary over the hotspot (defined in the diagram as the "Mantle Plume"), for millions of years, i.e.,, the "Mantle Plume" is not moving, the tectonic plate above it is.

Now consider this: the "Mantle Plume" is the result of the subduction occurring at the plate boundary, which is not shown in the diagram, but if you look at the surface features in the diagram, you can clearly see that a large portion of the "Mantle Plume" exists under water, i.e. the Pacific Ocean.

Conclusions from what we know (from the diagram):
1. The directional arrows indicated in the "Mantle Plume" are irrelevant.
2. The "Newly Discovered Magma Chamber" and the "Known Magma Chamber" are receiving heat from the "Mantle Plume", and for millions of years this process has continued in exactly the structure as indicated in the diagram, the only variable being the westward movement of the North American Plate above the structure.
3. All of this structure is happening far below any tectonic activity. In fact, it is the subduction at the plate boundary that is causing the "Mantle Plume" (hotspot) in the first place.
4. Even though the color coding in the diagram indicates the hottest temperature of magma in the "Known Magma Chamber" is hottest under the Yellowstone Caldaria, that "Known Magma Chamber" extends beyond the border of the Yellowstone Park, and is closer to the surface in that extended area - Magma Follows The Path Of Least Resistance.

It's my speculation, all we need is a massive earthquake at the subduction zone along the Pacific Coast, and that will cause an hydraulic surge in the "Mantle Plume" that will superheat the "Known Magma Chamber".

Amzer Zo's explanation to Snowbird, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199139&viewfull=1#post199139), doesn't take into consideration, that all of this "Mantle Plume" (hotspot) activity is occurring far below the lithosphere, down in the Mantle.

Dating-back to July, 2015 there have been public warnings of a massive earthquake pending along the Washington/Oregon/Northern California Coast:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jB6G08Qgmg

I invite the members to put it all together, and "chew" on that....

[Hervé]

[...]
Amzer Zo's condescending tone at my earlier improper use of terminology, when he well knew what I was trying to say, frustrated me enough to want to leave this debate.
[...]
Projecting much? Because, it's a lot more than confusing the terminology used, it demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of what's written as well as the data provided, e.g.:

[...]
Established fact - The North American Plate is moving westward. It has been for millions of years. At the same time the Juan de Fuca Plate is moving eastward causing a subduction zone at the boundary. That's not established at all and is the subject of endless debates:

[...]These are the current recognized hot spots/plumes world wide. What's known with certainty is the relative displacement between crust and plume. What's unknown is if the plumes are totally fixed as in the 19 degrees latitude thing or wandering as in the shift of the magnetic poles would indicate. To be resolved.[...]
The North American continent is moving "westward" only with respect to Europe and Africa when the latter are taken as the reference frame.

As at yet no one knows for certain if the North American continent is moving westward in an absolute manner: it could be pinned down to the mantle, in which case it would be Africa and Europe as well as Japan that are moving eastward and getting closer to the west coast of the North American continent when the latter is taken as the reference frame.

In any case, it is the Pacific Ocean that is shrinking and the Atlantic Ocean that's expanding.

Quasar calibrated GPS may answer that question as to which continent to pick as an "immobile" reference frame, if any, soon.



All tectonic activity occurs in the upper crust, or lithosphere, above the mantle of magma (beneath).

Now, look carefully at the diagram that has caused so much controversy:
https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

There was no "controversy" nor confusion on my part with this diagram. My point of contention was with the interpretation given to this diagram:

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/MT%20data%20Yellowstone_zpslvpnipgt.gif

... which demonstrated the complete misunderstanding of the article it came from as well as the confirmation bias point.


[...]
... That "Known Magma Chamber" has remained stationary over the hotspot (defined in the diagram as the "Mantle Plume"), for millions of years, i.e.,, the "Mantle Plume" is not moving, the tectonic plate above it is.
[...]
... so... is it stationary? Or is it moving?


Now consider this: the "Mantle Plume" is the result of the subduction occurring at the plate boundary, which is not shown in the diagram,That's the thing with "Mantle Plumes": they are independent from subduction zones:


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4193/3437/1600/mapa%2011.jpg

http://www.visionlearning.com/img/library/modules/mid128/Image/VLObject-3287-050307080339.gif

The volcanic activity connected to the subduction zone generated the Cascade Range NOT Yellowstone




but if you look at the surface features in the diagram, you can clearly see that a large portion of the "Mantle Plume" exists under water, i.e. the Pacific Ocean.... this should be embarrassing... because, if we take the horizontal scale of one "Yellowstone-Caldera-diameter" from that diagram and translate it along that NE-SW cross section... and we find that the Pacific has moved into Idaho:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=6955&d=1303096764


[...]
I invite the members to put it all together, and "chew" on that....Yes, please, chew it real good :)

[observer]

to see Herve's comment #40, click-on the forwarding icon.

Are you seriously making the claim that the North American Plate is stationary in the western region? Seriously?

Full-well being aware of the Snake River Plain?


"Current studies suggest that the Snake River Plain resulted from the passage of the North American Plate over a stationary mantle plume or “hotspot” that is currently located beneath Yellowstone National Park" - from here (http://geology.isu.edu/Digital_Geology_Idaho/Module11/mod11.htm)

Talk about a complete misunderstanding, the MT Data image was posted specifically to show there are other sources of evidence indicating a much wider field of magma, extending far into the heartland of Wyoming, than was previously understood. You, sir, picked the word "magma" apart, in an attempt to demonstrate your superior knowledge, when it was perfectly obvious of what I was speaking.

....And your continued use of this image is laughable:

http://www.visionlearning.com/img/library/modules/mid128/Image/VLObject-3287-050307080339.gif

The diagram is describing only what is occurring in the crust (lithosphere). It doesn't address any conditions deep in the Mantle, the way this diagram does:

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

....and the water indicated in the surface conditions of this diagram are describing the Pacific Ocean, unless you can show me a large body of water between Yellowstone and the Pacific ocean. The scale on that diagram is completely distorted.

It should be obvious, the Juan de Fuca/North American Subduction Zone is responsible for the hotspot that caused Yellowstone, and it should be obvious that hotspot has remained stationary while the North American plate has continuously moved westward over that stationary spot - just like are the conditions at all the other hotspots found around the world....

[KiwiElf]

Right now, I'd say the whole pacific plate is moving! Whatever was before, isn't now...

[Hervé]

to see Herve's comment #40, click-on the forwarding icon.
Are you seriously making the claim that the North American Plate is stationary in the western region? Seriously?

Full-well being aware of the Snake River Plain?


"Current studies suggest that the Snake River Plain resulted from the passage of the North American Plate over a stationary mantle plume or “hotspot” that is currently located beneath Yellowstone National Park" - from here (http://geology.isu.edu/Digital_Geology_Idaho/Module11/mod11.htm)
That's an evidence of ONLY a RELATIVE motion between the two. Anything else is assumption/interpretation. It is in no way an evidence that a hot spot is not moving as well. Hence the endless debates:

That's not established at all and is the subject of endless debates:

Posted by Hervé (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=199732#post199732)
[...]These are the current recognized hot spots/plumes world wide. What's known with certainty is the relative displacement between crust and plume. What's unknown is if the plumes are totally fixed as in the 19 degrees latitude thing or wandering as in the shift of the magnetic poles would indicate. To be resolved.[...] The North American continent is moving "westward" only with respect to Europe and Africa when the latter are taken as the reference frame.

As at yet no one knows for certain if the North American continent is moving westward in an absolute manner: it could be pinned down to the mantle, in which case it would be Africa and Europe as well as Japan that are moving eastward and getting closer to the west coast of the North American continent when the latter is taken as the reference frame.

In any case, it is the Pacific Ocean that is shrinking and the Atlantic Ocean that's expanding.

Quasar calibrated GPS may answer that question as to which continent to pick as an "immobile" reference frame, if any, soon.
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Talk about a complete misunderstanding, the MT Data image was posted specifically to show there are other sources of evidence indicating a much wider field of magma, extending far into the heartland of Wyoming, than was previously understood. Re-read that article and realize it's talking about "hot rocks," NOT magma:
Past imaging efforts have used seismic waves to detect the border between molten and solid rock. These have indicated that the mantle plume originates somewhere deep under Idaho and slopes eastward as it rises to meet the surface under Wyoming.
The new picture roughly agrees with this, but suggests the area heated by the plume may be far more extensive than indicated by the seismic data. It relies on what is termed magneto-telluric (MT) readings, which register subtle changes in the Earth's conductivity and magnetic fields. These register differences in temperature and composition of the rock and fluids, as these change alter the conductivity of the crust.
[...]
The resulting picture suggests that the molten rock of the mantle plume seen in seismic images is only the core of a much larger volume of hot crust. Although this area isn't molten, the high temperatures allow water to pick up elevated levels of salt, which enables its detection through the MT monitoring equipment.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/04/yellowstone-volcanic-plume-much-larger-than-expected/
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You, sir, picked the word "magma" apart, in an attempt to demonstrate your superior knowledge, when it was perfectly obvious of what I was speaking. That was to make other readers understand that it's not a lava lake that's sitting in that "known magma chamber": hot rocks melted at 8-15%


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....And your continued use of this image is laughable:

http://www.visionlearning.com/img/library/modules/mid128/Image/VLObject-3287-050307080339.gif

The diagram is describing only what is occurring in the crust (lithosphere). It doesn't address any conditions deep in the Mantle, the way this diagram does:

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

All right:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iUQtQa1Hj84/Ucxe5IoAUyI/AAAAAAAAPS0/AmVrYseH4Bw/s1100/Subduction_Cascades.jpg

... still laughing?

How about this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Earth-cutaway-schematic-english.svg/1024px-Earth-cutaway-schematic-english.svg.png
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....and the water indicated in the surface conditions of this diagram are describing the Pacific Ocean, unless you can show me a large body of water between Yellowstone and the Pacific ocean. The scale on that diagram is completely distorted. I don't see any legend there indicating that blue layer being water, much less the Pacific Ocean.

What I do see is a vertical scale and a horizontal scale given by the caldera diameter which topographical features are represented; but no Cascade Range relief being shown... so, maybe the scales aren't distorted that much?


It should be obvious,....

[observer]

Give it up Hervé, you're loosing points in this debate with each comment.

1. The only movement of the North American Plate in question, is that sharply focused area including the Juan de Fuca/North American Subduction Zone, out-to the Yellowstone Caldaria, including only the zone where the hotspot exists. Any other element of your talking-points is moot to the debate. Your suggestion to a "relative motion" in that specific area is, in effect, a stipulation to the motion, I'm emphasizing.

2. You still cannot get past the magma vs. hot rock issue, while from the start, debating the semantics of the words was your thing. I represented the MT Data diagram wholly to show the extent of the superheated area using alternate data. Berating that intent with a meaningless debate over the definition of words, appears to me, a sophomoric strategy.

3. And finely.... yes, I'm LMAO at the new diagrams you have produced. Neither of them extends the Asthenosphere beyond the Cascade range, even though, at the cut-off point of both diagrams, there's a clear indication of bright red activity to the East of where the diagram ends. Where-in the diagram I've republished (below) clearly indicates a much bigger picture of everything in the specific zone in question.

BTW: If you look at the depiction of the Pacific Ocean in your final diagram (the pie-shaped one), it appears exactly as the depiction of what I'm calling the Pacific Ocean in the out of scale diagram that you produced earlier - (republished below) Your explanation of scale shows no understanding of a schematic diagram.

https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/ts_yellowstone.png

[Calz]

Not a popularity contest.

I deeply appreciate both of your contributions.


We ... the majority of members ... are trying to figure it out and both of you make tremendous contributions in that regard.

[Hervé]

...

R.I.P.

http://candydirectnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/yellowstone-magma-graphic.jpg
A magma chamber with enough material to fill the Grand Canyon 14 times over has been found beneath the Yellowstone supervolcano, researchers say. The finding yields insights into the "plumbing" system feeding the giant caldera.

(Photo : Hsin-Hua Huang | University of Utah)

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/48427/20150424/scientists-discover-giant-reservoir-of-molten-rock-under-yellowstone-park.htm




[...]
....and the water indicated in the surface conditions of this diagram are describing the Pacific Ocean, unless you can show me a large body of water between Yellowstone and the Pacific ocean. The scale on that diagram is completely distorted. I don't see any legend there indicating that blue layer being water, much less the Pacific Ocean.

What I do see is a vertical scale and a horizontal scale given by the caldera diameter which topographical features are represented; but no Cascade Range relief being shown... so, maybe the scales aren't distorted that much?


It should be obvious,....

[observer]

^^^^

Not so fast, Herve'....

Go to this link (http://earthquakes.berkeley.edu/~rallen/pub/2007xue/XueAllenEPSL2007.pdf), read the abstract, then study and read the description accompanying Figure 1.

Then scroll-dawn to page 8 and study figure 4, and read the description.

If you have the time read the entire PDF, you might learn something.

With regard to the improved diagram you've provided from Tech Times, all you've proven is that the diagram is only a partial representation (a segment so-to-speak) of a much larger geological system.

The data provided on the Science Direct PDF covers a much larger geological area, and should lead to a better understanding of the concept I've been attempting to deliver....

Most of the information contained in the Science Direct PDF, contradicts much of what you've said throughout this debate.

Note: for those interested members who are unfamiliar with the terminology found in the PDF, Ma = Million Years in geology-speak.

[observer]

I've been aware there is more to the Yellowstone Plume Head controversy for some period of time. I recall reading an article more than a year ago describing how the hotspot causing the Yellowstone Caldera has its origins deep within the mantle, and how it's all integrated with the Costal Subduction Zone. Geological Models have been pointing to the "Yellowstone Hotspot Track", a footprint of evidence dating-back more than 16 million years, and beginning just East of the Cascade Range; all undisputable evidence that there is a much larger picture involved, as opposed to isolated studies of thumbnail segments to this geological system.

Here's another link that's easier to understand, which duplicates the data in the link given in comment #47:
https://seismo.berkeley.edu/annual_report/ar06_07/node154.html

.... and another on the same topic:
http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/40/5/479.full

So, to recapitulate what I've been attempting to present, there's not much argument regarding any sort of "debate among geologists" when it comes to a thorough study of the data....

[TeXaR]

Observer, I appreciate your input to the discussion just as MorningSong does. Why did you unsubscribe? Your information is so valuable. And not only the information you give on this subject, but on many other subjects.

It's important what you actually stated in your reply #10 and where this whole debate started.


I've said for a long time, if Yellowstone were going to erupt, as that eruption has been predicted from the geologic record of frequency, it would have to happen at a location East of the current caldera.


It sounds logic to me : The plate is moving westwards, so the Hot Spot is moving to the East, as the crust moves over the Hot Spot....

Can't you come back, observer?

[PathWalker]

Observer, I appreciate your input to the discussion just as MorningSong does. Why did you unsubscribe?
Can't you come back, observer?
Unsubscribed means banned by the moderators.
Usually the moderators records this in the RECORD of MODERATOR ACTIONS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS) thread.
I did not notice any guidelines breach here. But we do not have the full picture.
This banning is most unusual and hope Bill will post a comment on this soon.

Thanks
Joy and happiness
PathWalker




Note from Bill: Thanks: you're ahead of us here! I'll make a 'formal' post in just a moment. Yes, there was a bigger picture. Please give me a few minutes and I'll say just a little more.

Update: now posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1063212&viewfull=1#post1063212).

[TeXaR]

Observer, I appreciate your input to the discussion just as MorningSong does. Why did you unsubscribe?
Can't you come back, observer?
Unsubscribed means banned by the moderators.
Usually the moderators records this in the RECORD of MODERATOR ACTIONS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS) thread.
I did not notice any guidelines breach here. But we do not have the full picture.
This banning is most unusual and hope Bill will post a comment on this soon.

Thanks
Joy and happiness
PathWalker




Note from Bill: Thanks: you're ahead of us here! I'll make a 'formal' post in just a moment. Yes, there was a bigger picture. Please give me a few minutes and I'll say just a little more.

Update: now posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1063212&viewfull=1#post1063212).


As Hervé was participating on this thread as member and not as a moderator, I wonder if Bill is backing the right one here.
Frustrating or provoking someone to eventually get a hostile reaction can be a cunning art ....






From Bill: Yes, a cunning art it is. It depends who was doing the provoking! Hervé is a professionally qualified geophysicist, and I'm convinced observer had misunderstandings that he wasn't able to get past. At that point, the history (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1063212&viewfull=1#post1063212) of observer's earlier many personal frustrations kicked in.

:focus:




UPDATE from TeXaR

Here happened the same, killing the thread this time.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18569-Yellowstone-Announced-to-be-Much-Bigger-Than-Originally-Thought&p=199139&viewfull=1#post199139

[Hervé]

[...]
It sounds logic to me : The plate is moving westwards, so the Hot Spot is moving to the East, as the crust moves over the Hot Spot....
[...]

The past relative motion between the two objects was never in dispute... my point (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019), that seem to have never gotten across, is that there is no new evidence for a "new eastward migration of either plume or magma chambers" with respect to the crust.

If you take a good look at your own statement, it implies both hot spot/plume are moving in opposite directions... that would make for a fast travel speed of the hot spot across the North American continent. :)

An analogy would be like a passenger inside a train... the earth is rotating, the train is either stopped or moving and the passenger may be seated or walking inside that train. It all boils down to which frame of reference one arbitrarily pins down as "fixed": the walking passenger? The train's frame? Or the earth?

Then, what if that passenger decides to walk from one side of the train to the other? Or, instead of walking toward the front of the train changes course and walks toward the back?... all the while the train leaves the station...

All, we have from the data is: " no new migration of either plume or magma chambers" with respect to the ground surface.

... that's a seated passenger taken as the reference system, whether the train is moving or not :)

[seeker/reader]

Hotspots are stationary and are sourced deep within the mantle. They are not produced by a subducting slab causing vulcanism. The geochemistry of magmas produced via subduction is different than those produced from mantle plumes, which indicates they have a different source.

[TeXaR]

[...]
It sounds logic to me : The plate is moving westwards, so the Hot Spot is moving to the East, as the crust moves over the Hot Spot....
[...]

The past relative motion between the two objects was never in dispute... my point (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1062019&viewfull=1#post1062019), that seem to have never gotten across, is that there is no new evidence for a "new eastward migration of either plume or magma chambers" with respect to the crust.

If you take a good look at your own statement, it implies both hot spot/plume are moving in opposite directions... that would make for a fast travel speed of the hot spot across the North American continent. :)

An analogy would be like a passenger inside a train... the earth is rotating, the train is either stopped or moving and the passenger may be seated or walking inside that train. It all boils down to which frame of reference one arbitrarily pins down as "fixed": the walking passenger? The train's frame? Or the earth?

Then, what if that passenger decides to walk from one side of the train to the other? Or, instead of walking toward the front of the train changes course and walks toward the back?... all the while the train leaves the station...

All, we have from the data is: " no new migration of either plume or magma chambers" with respect to the ground surface.

... that's a seated passenger taken as the reference system, whether the train is moving or not :)


Since I ended the sentence with "as the crust moves over the Hot Spot...", I pointed out that the inner Hot Spot (most likely) stays in place (indeed, seeker/reader). It just shows up as an eruption on the surface in another (more eastward) location, as the crust moves westwards.
It has to make a new 'exit' to release the power and will appear on an other location than the former eruption.

Unfortunately I can't copy and paste a pdf , but this link will lead you to an explanation of what I'm trying to say and what, I'm sure, observer wanted to say.
But of course, you as a professionally qualified geophysicist, will know this. Then why all this 'hairsplitting'?

https://books.google.nl/books?id=6Qlx3DM7_FYC&pg=PA194&lpg=PA194&dq=And+as+the+plate+moves+westward,+the+hot+spot+in+relation+to+Yellowstone+and+Wyoming+will+move&source=bl&ots=2b0XzJIBpc&sig=Xeh7Oe7xP9tsL7w4lwfq1zNlmSs&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_jI7ahp3MAhXBuBoKHQG7AYoQ6AEINDAD#v=onepage&q&f=false

Excuse me for my clumsy English. I'm not a native speaker and I realize very well that I'm not a match for you, but an easy target so to say :)

[ThePythonicCow]

As announced here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1063282&viewfull=1#post1063282), we closed the account of TeXaR.

[justntime2learn]

Terrifying New Video Shows What Is Really Going on at Yellowstone
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 22:23

https://dailymedia.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/crack3-640x335.jpg

"Over that past month, our planet has been hit by large earthquake after large earthquake, and there are currently 40 volcanoes erupting and 44 on high alert. And now for the past week, there has been a dramatic spike in global seismic activity that is unlike anything we have seen in years, making what is going on incredibly alarming!

I want to share with you some footage recorded on Thursday night from Yellowstone. Something strange you will notice is that it appears to be a bright day even though it is in the middle of the night, you will be able to see a plethora of geysers steaming violently, and Old faithful just keeps going over and over again."

http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2016/04/terrifying-new-video-shows-what-is-really-going-on-at-yellowstone-2535799.html

[onawah]

More fear porn? That is a known disinfo source.

[Hervé]

Terrifying New Video Shows What Is Really Going on at Yellowstone
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 22:23

[...]

Hi there,

Had you followed your own thread, you might have noticed said video was already posted and discussed starting from here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1061697&viewfull=1#post1061697

[justntime2learn]

More fear porn? That is a known disinfo source.

I suppose I relied on this and I am horribly sorry.

I'm learning as fast as I can!

Right after I posted on Cidersomerset's thread that I would like to share an email chain between my state representative Sherrie Sprenger and I (about aliens) there was no response by anyone :(

My google account was hacked on the 14th of this month and I still cannot regain access to it.

Maybe I'm not justntime2learn ...

gittarpikk
3rd June 2013, 11:46
Missed on...I'm sure there are others.
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/
http://beforeitsnews.com
http://fourwinds10.com
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/

[onawah]

Just keep trying, justintime2learn.
There's still time! :nod:
There's a lot of disinfo out there, and it may take a few years to develop the discernment you need to recognize it by the smell, but it does happen.
It's a process.

[justntime2learn]

Terrifying New Video Shows What Is Really Going on at Yellowstone
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 22:23

[...]

Hi there,

Had you followed your own thread, you might have noticed said video was already posted and discussed starting from here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone&p=1061697&viewfull=1#post1061697

I am deeply sorry for my arrogance

[justntime2learn]

In order to join Avalon you must be invited I was told upon entering.

If this is true, I wonder why I was invited?





Clarification from Bill: you applied online, and the mods accepted your application. That's what's meant by an 'invitation'.

[ThePythonicCow]

In order to join Avalon you must be invited I was told upon entering.

If this is true, I wonder why I was invited?





Clarification from Bill: you applied online, and the mods accepted your application. That's what's meant by an 'invitation'.


I believe that the term "invited" was introduced earlier in the history of Avalon, back in 2010, when actual invitations were sent out, mostly to members of the earlier incarnation of the forum, the now read-only Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE) (http://projectavalon.net/forum).

As often happens with words, their use extends past their original application, and continues on, even though the basic word no longer accurately applies.

[Jhonie]

I have a friend who lives near Yellowstone. She said nothing unusual is happening.

[justntime2learn]

I have a friend who lives near Yellowstone. She said nothing unusual is happening.

That's wonderful to hear because it looks like we have to take a trip to Colorado very soon. My mother was visiting my uncle and here is the update I just received . Update on Vicky. She's getting bathed right now. Broken sleep because of the checkups all night. Getting more sensation in hands and feet. Very weak. Can't hold anything. Raised platelets from 1,000 to 30,000 yesterday, back down to 7,000 this morning. Should be 100,000, can't do surgery under 50,000 because of bleeding. May have to remove spleen first.

[Hervé]

Sizable 4.3 quake west of Yellowstone (http://www.kpax.com/story/32209570/sizable-quake-west-of-yellowstone)
(http://www.kpax.com/story/32209570/sizable-quake-west-of-yellowstone)
By Dennis Bragg Connect (http://www.kpax.com/story/32209570/sizable-quake-west-of-yellowstone#)
Posted: Jun 13, 2016 9:40 PM RST
Updated: Jun 13, 2016 10:02 PM RST

(http://KPAX.images.worldnow.com/images/10767095_G.jpg)
http://KPAX.images.worldnow.com/images/10767095_G.jpg (http://KPAX.images.worldnow.com/images/10767095_G.jpg)


WEST YELLOWSTONE - A sizable quake rattled the mountains west of Yellowstone Park Monday morning, registering a 4.3 magnitude.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake hit at 6:14 a.m. Monday with the epicenter about 32 miles west of West Yellowstone.

That would put the quake's location north of the Continental Divide, in the Centennial Valley.

The area is sparsely populated, and even an hour after the quake only a couple of people had reported feeling the quake to U.S.G.S.

The region on the west side of Yellowstone frequently has several small quakes per month, but Monday's quake was larger than usual.

According to the USGS, Montana is one of the most seismically-active states in the country, although the vast majority of recorded earthquakes are very small, causing no damage and rarely noticed by people.

Since 1925, the state has experienced five shocks that reached intensity VIII or greater (Modified Mercalli Scale). During the same interval hundreds of less severe tremors were felt within the State.

Montana's earthquake activity is concentrated mostly in the mountainous western third of the State which lies within a seismic zone that also includes southeastern Idaho, western Wyoming, and central Utah.

-Additional information by David Sherman

[Swanette]

The Yellowstone Caldera, which is a supervolcano situated below the Yellowstone National Park in the United States have been showing signs that it might erupt within this year.



http://www.kpax.com/story/29568325/road-in-yellowstone-national-park-closed-to-vehicles-due-to-thermal-activity


http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/39518/20160510/yellowstone-caldera-supervolcano-under-national-park-erupt-2016.htm

[kirolak]

The second report is in such bad English as to be amusing.. . .. . surely not a reputable source?

[Hervé]

The Yellowstone Caldera, which is a supervolcano situated below the Yellowstone National Park in the United States have been showing signs that it might erupt within this year.

http://www.kpax.com/story/29568325/road-in-yellowstone-national-park-closed-to-vehicles-due-to-thermal-activity
[...]

Please... check the year this was posted !


Posted: Jul 17, 2015 1:33 AM RST
Updated: Jul 17, 2015 1:34 AM RST
Road in Yellowstone National Park closed to vehicles due to thermal activityAs for a discussion of that Yellowstone fearmongering, see this thread: Boiling To Life! Vents Opening Around Yellowstone (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90025-Boiling-To-Life--Vents-Opening-Around-Yellowstone)

[ghostrider]

There is a group over at FB called Bunker repot, they watch Yellowstone closely, the think magma is moving affecting the plate, causs earthquake swarms in that area ...

[Gaia]

The 5.8 magnitude earthquake happened in western Montana in the early morning hours of July 6, and with it being a shallow earthquake, plenty of people beyond the epicenter southeast of Lincoln felt the tremors as it rattled states near Montana and was felt as far away as Canada.

According to NPR, the Montana earthquake was the strongest one to hit the region in years ( 20), and the resulting shockwaves of the western Montana earthquake sent people to social media to publish reports about their dogs predicting the earthquake with odd behavior right before the quake struck. As folks publish tweets about initially being afraid that a ghost was shaking their beds, they are also publishing their fears about how Old Faithful might have been affected by the earthquake. Social media users wrote about Old Faithful erupting in Yellowstone National Park and fearing that Old Faithful’s hydrothermal features, powered by the Yellowstone supervolcano, would have a detrimental effect on the region.



Source :

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/06/535741701/montana-earthquake-is-felt-for-hundreds-of-miles-early-thursday?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170706


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-06/supervolcano-concerns-rise-after-montana-hit-strongest-earthquake-20-years

[Cardillac]

if my read sources are correct "old faithful" isn't exactly faithful anymore and the lake above Yellowstone has been tipping to the south since the 1920's- the Yellowstone caldera is at least yawning...

Larry

[Harley]

Yellowstone Supervolcano May Rumble to Life Faster Than Thought (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/yellowstone-supervolcano-erupt-faster-thought-science/)

A new study of ancient ash suggests that the dormant giant could develop the conditions needed to blow in a span of mere decades.

36259

OCTOBER 11, 2017

If the supervolcano underneath Yellowstone erupts again, we may have far less advance warning time than we thought.

After analyzing minerals in fossilized ash from the most recent mega-eruption, researchers at Arizona State University think the supervolcano last woke up after two influxes of fresh magma flowed into the reservoir below the caldera.

And in an unsettling twist, the minerals revealed that the critical changes in temperature and composition built up in a matter of decades. Until now, geologists had thought it would take centuries for the supervolcano to make that transition.

A 2013 study, for instance, showed that the magma reservoir that feeds the supervolcano is about two and a half times larger than previous estimates. Scientists also think the reservoir is drained after every monster blast, so they thought it should take a long time to refill. Based on the new study, it seems the magma can rapidly refresh—making the volcano potentially explosive in the geologic blink of an eye.

“It’s shocking how little time is required to take a volcanic system from being quiet and sitting there to the edge of an eruption,” study co-author Hannah Shamloo told the New York Times.

Still, Yellowstone is one of the best monitored volcanoes in the world, notes Michael Poland, the current Scientist-in-Charge of the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory for the U.S. Geological Survey. A variety of sensors and satellites are always looking for changes, and right now, the supervolcano does not seem to pose a threat.

"We see interesting things all the time ... but we haven't seen anything that would lead us to believe that the sort of magmatic event described by the researchers is happening," says Poland via email, adding that the research overall is "somewhat preliminary, but quite tantalizing."

The new paper adds to a suite of surprises scientists have uncovered over the last few years as they have studied the supervolcano. (Also find out about a supervolcano under Italy that has recently been rumbling (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/12/supervolcano-campi-flegrei-stirs-under-naples-italy/).)

Read more at National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/yellowstone-supervolcano-erupt-faster-thought-science/)

[ghostrider]

Gotta chime in on this , according to Sfath the great cauldara will erupt , and has been building for thousands of years ... according to the information , they traveled back in time to view the last eruption, made calculations , as well as using their psychic people (their race has gifted individuals like ours) the volcano will will erupt and cause much devastation and cost many lives ... everything is a circle, it builds , it blows, it builds , it blows ... Has always done this and will continue to follow nature’s circle/cycle of life ... They also speak of La Palma in Italy, we are urged to grade down the west side of the mountain to lessen the tsunami that will be created when it erupts ...they say part of the west side will break off and slide into the ocean creating a tsunami that will affect the east coast of America... Even though I keep pressing them, they won’t give the exact date, because warnings were given in the past and mankind took no heed to their warnings... They warn , Yellowstone will blow, Oregon will experience a mega sea quake, a volcano in The Canary Islands will effect America, typhoons, firestorms, floods, will come to America for her reaping of what she has sown across the world , in trying to acheive global domination... they have warned about these events for over 60 years ...

[Hervé]

Yellowstone supervolcano threat theory 'demonstrably false' - USGS expert to RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/411803-yellowstone-super-volcano-theory/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/411803-yellowstone-super-volcano-theory/)
Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:36 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/436562/large/ye.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/436562/full/ye.jpg)
Yellowstone National Park, a favored site of supervolcano doomsayers. © Jim Urquhart / Reuters


If you spend any time on the internet, it seems every few months humanity is faced with a looming existential threat from the depths of space. Planet X/Nibiru, the rapture or a wayward comet are, according to conspiracy theorists, destined to destroy us.

However, there is one particular conspiracy (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1350123/Worlds-largest-volcano-Yellowstone-National-Park-wipe-thirds-US.html), treasured (https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/768778/Yellowstone-eruption-Supervolcano-BRINK-of-erupting-increased-activity) by theorists (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2623684/Conspiracy-theories-claim-US-government-working-secret-evacuation-plan-case-Yellowstone-megavolcano-erupts.html), that our impending doom will come from within planet Earth - that lurking beneath America's Yellowstone National Park is a supervolcano that will kill us all.

Yellowstone, in the midwestern US, is - they claim - about to erupt and send unfathomable amounts of matter into the sky, covering anyone in the vicinity in a pyroclastic flow of ash and rock, and blocking out the sun, wiping out almost all life on Earth in the process.

Conspiracy theories tend to draw on some grain of truth. The super volcano really has erupted before, three times in fact, over the last 2 billion years or so, but the theory goes that it's bound to do so again soon, right? RT.com caught up with Michael Poland, Scientist-in-Charge at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory, to find out the full extent of this lurking supervolcanic 'threat.'


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/436567/large/Yrll.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/436567/full/Yrll.jpg)
Yellowstone National Park © USGS


Poland specializes in volcano geophysics, particularly in how volcanoes change and behave over time. Using GPS, satellites and other methods, he studies how the surface of Yellowstone National Park moves to figure out what's happening below.


Firstly, what is a super volcano?
"Super volcanos, or super eruptions, are these eruptions that are on the eruption intensity scale, there's something called the volcano explosivity index (VEI) and eruptions that have a VEI of eight are considered super eruptions. And that's pretty massive, most eruptions that we see would be VEI three, four. Big ones are five and then once a century or so there's a six, so a VEI eight is really, really tremendous."

What would it take to cause one?
"You have to have a really amazing amount of magma in the subsurface, so that's one of the criteria. In order to be able to put all of that stuff onto the surface and into the atmosphere you have to have it below the surface to begin with. And I think that's something that is interesting about Yellowstone. We don't know whether there's enough magma beneath the surface to have a super eruption, the evidence suggests that a lot of the magma reservoir is actually solid, and about 50 percent of it is molten, so there may not be enough down there to have a super eruption."

With that in mind, what are the odds of Yellowstone blowing it's top?
"I think the odds of a supereruption in our lifetime, in our children's lifetimes, in our grandchildren's lifetimes are astronomically small. I couldn't even quantify it, it's not something I'm worried about."

"I find it strange that Yellowstone is the volcano that's 'going to doom humanity.' One of the things that bothers me about that is that there have been super eruptions when humans have been on the planet. There've been two and, in fact, both of those were larger than the last Yellowstone eruption. There was one about 74,000 years ago from Indonesia and there was one 27,000 years ago from New Zealand. Both of those were larger than the last eruption at Yellowstone and humanity survived."

What about so-called earthquake swarms at Yellowstone? And wasn't there a particularly strong swarm earlier this year, 4.5 on the richter scale?
"Yeah 4.5 is definitely noticeable, you'd feel it and people did, but there was a 4.8 in 2014 and there was a 7.5 in 1959. Certainly this summer's swarm was really impressive, there were thousands of earthquakes, but that's sort of what Yellowstone does. It has swarms all the time and one of them has to be the largest. I don't see that as something to fear, however, instead I see it as an enormous opportunity for study."

"The idea that Yellowstone is going to erupt and kill us all is so demonstrably false. There's an odd disconnect I think between common sense and reality and what we know to be true and false based on past events and this irrational fear about yellowstone in particular."

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Hervé, when I read the article you posted, which seems credible, and then I look at the OP, maybe I am paranoid but I am seeing a threat being made through a media outlet.

Let me give you another example:

There was some recent news headline of some trouble in US-UK relations (the headlines go by so quickly these days, I forget which it was). So right after this bit of bad news comes out in regards to US-UK relations, it also comes out that there has been a new discovery, and what do you know? There is a fault line under London after all, and it could erupt any day now! Now what does that sound like to you, if you were a world leader, but a mafia-style threat on the global stage? But this is how the big boys go at it. I'm convinced that the Fukushima disaster was a British/Zionist threat which was acted upon, as another example.

My point is that natural disasters can be engineered with the right "assistance," and a lot of these prominent outlets like National Geographic are more mouthpieces for big power players than a serious scientific journal or anything like that. So I interpret these big sensationalist headlines as threats of basically environmental terrorism by international actors. Call me paranoid or cynical but I believe that's how they communicate these things, at least in part.

[Hervé]

I mostly agree with your assessment; there is a cyclical "cycling" of these fearmongering MSM's articles doing the rounds of Yellowstone, Nibiru/Planet X, California "Big One," Tsunamis, sea level rise, etc... among those, there indeed may be some telegraphing of future "sacrifices" via "earthquake machines" or "HAARP" induced weather catastrophes, etc... all high octane speculations until empirically proven.


Ah, yes I forgot the latest one of these recycled insecurities: EMPs and the danger to the energy grid: some geological feature along I-95 (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-13/rocks-under-i-95-present-odd-and-scary-threat-to-power-grid) that, maybe, could, would, possibly, etc., amplify the effect of a solar storm on the US East coast grid and fry it out of order... "they" don't even bother to specify the rock type... :facepalm: Is that some encrypted message to some investors as to where to invest their bucks? No idea; but always possible, however it sure sounds like a call for more research and grants $$...

[A Voice from the Mountains]

For what it's worth, whatever explanation they attribute to it, knocking out the US power grid is apparently already frighteningly easy. My dad got into electrical work for construction companies, and I've seen and read several things from electricians who go so far as to say that they often marvel at how few things ever go wrong on a large scale. If that's something to marvel at, then that tells you something about how fragile the whole system really is.

On 4chan and 8chan they often circulate screencaps of posts of people claiming to have been involved in Pentagon war-gaming, exploring various scenarios of civil war and social breakdown within the modern US, and a common theme in these posts is that the electrical grid goes down early and hard in any civil war situation, because the US government needs it more than the people who will be fighting the rebellion, and it's incredibly easy to take down. These different posts go into specific detail as to how easy it would be to create nightmare situations for electricians, if someone really wanted. But these guys never mentioned foreign or international interests in taking out the US power grid. I suppose the people who were funding these war game exercises were themselves internationalists/globalists, and their primary concern was always a revolt by millions of patriots.

[Bob]

Eruptions continuing into September


Yellowstone National Park's largest geyser, Steamboat, is puzzling scientists after it erupted for the eighth time since March. The most recent eruption, occurring at 9:04 a.m. on Monday morning (June) shot boiling-hot water hundreds of feet into the air, followed by hours of steam billowing out from the geyser.

Steamboat Geyser, unlike the regular Old Faithful Geyser, erupts very infrequently. Before this string of eruptions, Steamboat last erupted in 2014. Scientists are unsure why all of a sudden the geyser is experiencing a string of eruptions, something that has happened in the past but not for decades.

Steamboat is a larger and more powerful version of Old Faithful, shooting nearly boiling-hot water up to 345 feet into the air. According to the USGS, it appears there is an approximate periodicity of eruptions every 7 to 8 days. To study the geyser, geologists with the University of Utah set up seismic arrays across the geyser to capture the rumbling during eruptions. Their hope is to reconstruct the "plumbing" of the geyser by measuring the sound waves as they travel through the geyser up to the seismic sensors.


ref: https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/06/06/concern-grows-after-yellowstones-largest-geyser-erupts-for-8th-time-since-march/#d30d502c025f




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfcHUm0zck

From Local News 8 -

Posted: Sep 18, 2018 10:44 AM MDT

YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK (KIFI/KIDK) - The Steamboat Geyser in Yellowstone National Park erupted for the 19th time in 2018 Monday morning.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey, the geyser erupted at 9:37 a.m. and went off for an hour and 15 minutes.

Yellowstone National Park reports this is the most active year for Steamboat since 1982.


USGS said the geyser has decided to follow a semi-regular pattern of erupting about every 5 days over the past few weeks.

[Bob]

from https://geysertimes.org/geyser.php?id=Steamboat

This page lists the times it has erupted recently

This is what a seismographic looked like when it erupted about 28 days ago:


https://i.imgur.com/iYElhjw.jpg

[Sunny-side-up]

Yes Bob, it can be quite worrying when you think we are hurtling through space on a pressure cooker of a time bomb,
all the while also hoping, some other as of yet unknown celestial body isn't planing on playing snooker with us 0.O

That's quite a powerful leak in the old boiler for sure, very impressive

It reminds me I haven't had my first cup of tea of the morning yet, time to put the kettle on ha ;)

[ramus]

Just to add perspective to this :

Explosions are often unpredictable but scientists say activity has ramped up in 2018 as Steamboat Geyser “appears to have entered a phase of more frequent water eruptions, much like it did in the 1960s and early 1980s”.

In comparison, eruptions between 1990 and 2013 were few and the geyser lay completely dormant between 1911 and 1961.

The height of the eruption has not yet been revealed but a geyser eruption on June 4 scaled 60 metres (200 ft).

What dates did the geyser erupt in 2018?

This is the entire list of eruptions by Steamboat this year in MDT:

March 15, 5.37am

April 19, 4.30pm

April 27, 6.30am

May 4, 11.50pm

May 13, 3.54am

May 19, 9.49pm

May 27, 7.33pm

June 4, 9.05am

June 11, 1.06am

June 15, 4.55pm

July 6, 1.38pm

July 20, 10.36pm

August 4, 2.10pm

August 22, 11.44am

August 27, 9.30pm

September 1, 11.21pm

September 7, 10.20am

September 12, 4.23am

September 17, 9.38am

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1019362/yellowstone-volcano-activity-news-2018-steamboat-geyser-eruption-history-recent-activity

[ghostrider]

It is predicted the great Caldara will erupt and destroy 2/3 of America.

[Bob]

It would seem to me Ramus, something shifted allowing for groundwater to have entry in the plumbing system..

What shifted, and is it the same thing that shifted? Seems 345 feet into the air (as seen in the example video in the OP post #1) is a substantial amount of water if the eruptions are lasting about an hour each..

If it were earthquake related, what was the source of the earthquakes, an elevation in the magma dome primarily driving Yellowstone? Or something local more superficial like normal faults under stress releasing. Was there a change in Yellowstone lake or the surrounding banks? Any other geysers change their characteristic?

Seems SteamBoat has some strong interest and not just being one's run-of-the-mill geological formation...

The Yellowstone caldera system has fascinated me ever since I got up there to take a look first hand.. It's most certainly big, widespread out.. And most certainly there is enough energy there to power the whole USA (if it could be extracted) perpetually in a GREEN WAY without ever having to rely on OIL, or WIND, or SOLAR.. Think about that optimistically, forever energy power for the USA.. If it could be harnessed greenly and then distributed.

I'd prefer to be optimistic and not focus on well it could destroy 2/3 of the USA. It (paraphrasing a bit, the 'snake' down there) has that much power, maybe it's saying time to start using it instead of running away from it... (that's just me again, looking for optimism)..

[ramus]

Major eruptions at Steamboat Geyser are the tallest in the world. This feature first appeared on 11 August 1878 after a hydrothermal explosion. This was similar to, but larger than, the 5 September 1989 Porkchop Geyser hydrothermal explosion event, which occurred in the same geyser basin. Steamboat Geyser consists of two vents in a gentle hillside of rhyolitic ash-flow tuff (Lava Creek Tuff, lower Middle Pleistocene, 640 ka). Initially, the vents were powerful fumaroles that emitted steam and some mud. By 1879, moderately high to high geyser eruptions occurred. Small to large eruptions occurred at Steamboat Geyser from the late 1870s to the early 1910s. This was followed by 50 years of dormancy. Geyser eruptions resumed in the 1960s. Dormancy occurred during the early and mid-1970s. More major eruptions occurred in the early 1980s, followed by sporadic to rare events from the mid-1980s to the 2000s. One major eruption occurred in May 2005. Another one occurred at the end of July in 2013. The most recent major eruption was in September 2014.

https://debunkingdoomsday.quora.com/Why-we-don-t-need-to-worry-about-the-Steamboat-Geyser-in-Yellowstone-a-chance-to-see-it-if-you-visit-Yellowstone-t

Why we don’t need to worry about the Steamboat Geyser in Yellowstone - a chance to see it if you visit Yellowstone, that’s all
Robert Walker

The Yellowstone geysers are nothing at all to do with eruptions. They happen all the time, that’s just what they do, some are irregular. It is to do with how quickly the reservoir fills up with water again after each geyser event. All that just happening in the surface layers, with no connection at all with the subsurface magma
All this is happening in the top 100 meters or so.

The magma chamber is much deeper with lots of layers of rock in between.

.“Steamboat Geyser, in the Norris Geyser Basin, appears to have entered a phase of more frequent water eruptions, much like it did in the 1960s and early 1980s. Although these eruptions do not have any implications for future volcanic activity at Yellowstone (after all, geysers are supposed to erupt, and most are erratic, like Steamboat), they are nonetheless spectacular, and hopefully many people will have a chance to see Steamboat in eruption during the summer of 2018.”

Yellowstone Volcano Observatory News Archive

Yellowstone shows no signs of a supereruption right now. Not likely in our lifetimes and probably not going to happen for 1000 years.

It’s also possible that it has finished its supereruption phase for its current magma chamber - and would start a new one which would do a super-eruption perhaps millions of years into the future.

The magma plume below it moves West to East and as it does so new magma chambers form. When the current magma chamber has finished its phase, then the last point is that it breaks open and large amounts of basalt start poruing out - not an explosive eruption, just lots of ordinary lava. When that happens they will know that this magma chamber is done with and then there will be no more for a long time until it starts to build the next one.

Answering questions from general public about Yellowstone Volcano Observatory. With Mike Poland (geodisy), Wendy Stowall (geology) and Jamie Farrell (seismology)

Transcript on this page:

Yellowstone Volcano Observatory Scientists Host Facebook Live Event

It was posted in USGS Volcanoes originally apparently

USGS Volcanoes?

Note that from that transcript they don’t know if Yellowstone will have another super-eruption in its present location. It may be about to move to the final stage of the magma coming to the surface as lava flows and basalt

I wanted to address too, it looks like Brittany Paddock’s 6th grade science class has chimed in with a couple of questions. “When do we think Yellowstone will erupt again, like a big explosion, and how much ash would be released?” And this sort of gets back to what Wendy was addressing at the very beginning.

Wendy: Yeah, so we really don’t even know if the Yellowstone Plateau volcanic field as it is now will ever erupt in a super eruption again. It’s gone through three caldera-forming cycles, it could mean that it’s done. We do know that there’s magma under the ground, we know there’s basaltic magma coming in and sitting underneath the larger rhyolite body. This is the basaltic magma. When the Yellowstone volcanic field is done, we will see eruptions kind of like the ones that are in Hawaii at the surface inside the caldera. We’ll know that it’s done then. The volcanic field that is a little bit to the west of Yellowstone, the Heise volcanic field, that was the one that erupted just before this Yellowstone volcanic field, and there have been basaltic eruptions in that. So that’s kind of the next stage in the cycle.

Mike: The basalt sort of squirts through up to the surface.

Wendy: Yeah, and the reason why it can get up to the surface is because the rhyolite body, that spongy body of partial melt isn’t sitting there blocking the basalts to get up to the surface. But right now it’s preventing it from getting there, so it’s supplying heat by there’s no sign that it’s gonna erupt. We’re not sure if it will. And the ash will, depending on the size of the next super eruption, which may be hundreds of thousands of years if not millions of years away, go much further to the west [east] than we are currently seeing activity now, who knows if people will be here, but the next super eruption form that system will send ash into the atmosphere, and yeah, it’ll be a nuisance for people thousands of miles away, but it won’t be life ending.

[Cardillac]

@Bob

"The Yellowstone caldera system has fascinated me"

you and me both; ever since I read yrs. ago that the lake in Yellowstone has been tipping (is it N. or S.?) since the 1920's and all the other anomalies occuring within Yellowstone (if read sorces are correct "old faithful" is no longer "faithful") so if read sources are correct something unusual is occuring in Yellowstone-

if read sources are correct Yellowstone erupting (if read sorces are correct every ca. 36.000 yrs.) is now over due;

God forbid, but if Yellowstone should blow "good night nurse"!

Bob, any more new info you could provide us?

Larry

[Bill Ryan]

if read sources are correct Yellowstone erupting (if read sources are correct every ca. 36.000 yrs.) is now over due;


From http://bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/supervolcano/article.shtml

Three super-eruptions at Yellowstone appear to have occurred on a 600,000 — 700,000 year cycle, starting 2.1 million years ago. The most recent took place 640,000 years ago. That's what suggests that Yellowstone may be overdue for an eruption.

[Cardillac]

@Bill @Bob and all readers-

ever since I first learned about the machinations behind Yellowstone (80's/90's?) I've always felt this could be the biggest threat to humanity and not earthquakes or fault lines splitting (like the New Madrid fault line dividing more or less the US in half) or the global elite (:

I don't know why but I've always been obcessed with the idea of Yellowstone erupting; like a knife in my solar plexus-

well, let's hope it won't occur in our lifetimes but I think it will occur sooner than later-

Larry

[Bob]

As quoted by Ramus above, "Why we don’t need to worry about the Steamboat Geyser in Yellowstone - a chance to see it if you visit Yellowstone, that’s all - Robert Walker"
Seems to me most folks are ignoring "Robert Walker's" doublespeak and remaining concerned.

What is not sufficiently explained is:

1) was there a set of earthquakes evoking a slip or shift of fault zones allowing more water to enter the plumbing system (if so what was the cause of those earthquakes)
2) was there any shift of the Yellowstone lake shore (or bottom) elevations above sea level, indicating a change in magma chamber, or fault movement, or rock movement around the faults
3) what is the overall energy output thermally of the Yellowstone Caldera, is it increasing, decreasing or remaining stable

Larry, I am watching it. Like why is there a long term cycling and a restarting of a system which has remained dormant. I won't really sit still for those questions being doublespeaked over or glossed over.. Just me, as I pointed out, our opportunity is to extract useful heat energy and convert that into electricity.. Watching such a prospect be glossed over also is interesting, something that energy companies based on oil or natural gas, or wind would love to gloss over.. Workable thermal extraction to electricity of Yellowstone, or spots in Nevada and California, is being banned since the Parks Services were given authority to STOP any such use of the "natural wonders" for saving the country for instance from energy manipulation (by vested interests)..

==update==

thought I would add WHY I am insisting "draining the heat" from critical areas where fractures may cause a massive LEAKAGE of water from the plumbing systems into super-heated magma is important..

Imagine a simmering pot of spaghetti sauce.. Turn up the heat a bit or "fan the flames" that's heating up the 'sauce' and that nice calm saucepot can boil-over, or "erupt".. siphon off the heat from below the pot and the risk of explosion diminishes...

Here is another most dramatic visual analogy.. It's not "exact" but it is dramatic enough to make the point WHY reducing the critical temperatures is important.. (Critical bottom plumbing or liquid trapping faults' temperature diminishing using a system of heat extraction methods of COURSE means USEFUL energy can come from that extracted HEAT.. USEFUL ENERGY is an immense benefit to the public, since it is basically FREE ENERGY, not requiring, organizations to make solar, oil, gas, or wind projects)... There is a LOT of new technology that overcomes the difficulties of past geo-thermal projects.. (my personal belief is big oil focused on sabotaging efforts)..

Dropping a frozen turkey into a VERY HOT (but stable pot of OIL) - kids don't do this at home or anywhere !! It's not the same, but you get the point about how damaging very rapid STEAM generation can be.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gn895y4wkc

Magma in the analogy has a "higher boiling point" than water.. acting like the "oil" in the turkey cooker..

A massive dump into the heated chambers would be like the "frozen turkey" being dropped in.. How fast that sealed chamber vents or remains trapped equals "explosive eruptive event" potential yield.. It is not rocket science.. It is what makes a safe burn in the open of "black powder" be "calm" compared to a trapped black powder charge burning in an enclosed chamber (such as a pipe)..

If a sufficiently super-heated fault system (maybe with chambers) is closing up and trapping, and water enters and gets trapped, the vaporization results in explosive and catastrophic evacuation. Poo pooing that fact or glossing over that fact is not describing adequately potential issues.. What is the plumbing system.. Is it sealing, is there a new plumbing system, how many more 'systems' which have been dormant are changing if at all? To ignore that I feel is not in the public's best interest.

So, seeing ONE dormant system "wake up" makes me want to ask the questions, starting with WHY? Then looking at what changed, how massive is the change, how stable is the area. 'Experts' just speaking saying it's safe 'trust us' is meaningless to me, if it's safe answer the questions posed above.. As I pointed out in the OP, scientists are doing geophone analysis to attempt to determine the PLUMBING SYSTEM.. That's a start... If it was just so "safe", they wouldn't expend any resources - that's seems obvious to me.

[Bob]

More features have unexpectedly erupted in Yellowstone 19 Sept 2018 within the last couple days..

https://helenair.com/lifestyles/recreation/rare-ear-spring-eruption/youtube_e6c29536-e619-557f-827c-12058a53ef18.html

Ear Spring erupted:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJlMCNmecs


Over the last several days there has been new thermal activity in the Geyser Hill area of Yellowstone National Park's Upper Geyser Basin.

According to a park press release, there has been new erupting vents splashing water on the boardwalks, surface fractures, and a rare eruption of Ear Spring on Sept. 15.

Geyser Hill is located across the Firehole River from Old Faithful and features dozens of hot springs, geysers, and fumaroles.

For public safety some boardwalks and trails in the Geyser Hill area have been temporarily closed. Closure signs are posted.

and


Ear Spring on Yellowstone's Geyser Hill went from being dormant Saturday to spewing steam and water between 20 and 30 feet high, a height not recorded since 1957, said park spokesman Neal Herbert. It has since continued to erupt at a near-constant height of about 2 feet, he said.

Ear Spring, named for its resemblance to the shape of a human ear, is one of dozens of geysers, pools and hot springs in Yellowstone's Upper Geyser Basin — among the park's top attractions that feature the popular Old Faithful. It last erupted in 2004.

The eruption is among the new thermal activity seen over the last several days on Geyser Hill, just across the Firehole River from Old Faithful.

The activity includes new erupting vents and surface fractures, and it has led park officials to close a boardwalk in the popular Upper Geyser Basin to prevent people from being injured by scalding water splashing on the popular boardwalk trail.

Yellowstone's thermal basins sometimes undergo significant changes in short amounts of time..

[James Newell]

A few comments as a first hand observer. I was at Yellowstone in first week of August this year. While there I drove from the East side of Montana-Wyoming entrance and left at the West side of Yellowstone, about 50 miles distance. I camped around 10500 ft as an aside. They had abundant wildlife at my site at that altitude. But what was quite noticeable to me was the massive amount of Bisons all over the park( On the order of several thousand). And rich greenlands and fields and trees on the mountains. Also saw a number of Moose.

About four years ago we drove through Yellowstone on that same route and it seemed like large sections of the park had blight, yellow areas and many dead trees.We saw practically no Bison or no moose at all then. It seemed they had left the area.

Also the big caldera at Big Springs was fairly calm no agitation from the birds or small game in the area.(eg. squirrels) So if you want to believe in the wisdom of nature and beasts and them seemingly unworried about any event;I would say there are far less indicators of something coming now then there was four years ago.

[jagman]

Hello fellow PA members and guests. This is just my opinion and is not intended to be fear porn or cause a panic. On or around July15th to July16th I think there is about an 80%chance that the Yellowstone Caldera could Experience some kind of an eruption. How big im not sure.I'm sure most of you are aware that California just experienced a rather large earthquake and many large aftershocks. Yellowstone is also experiencing quite a few anomalous activities. The moon will be full on July16th. I could be wrong but if I lived within a 100 miles I would consider evacuation. I've been watching Google news for the last few days and have seen at least 6 different stories on the Caldera. If your waiting on the crust starting to rise(the ground rising.) that will only take a few hrs. I wouldn't I don't know why but I think this will be a partial eruption. I could be wrong but I felt like I had to share.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Keeping a full tank of gas, having a bug out bag, water filter and dehydrated food is inexpensive preparation for some. And if there is no eruption the gas will get used and the rest will keep for a very long time.
If you are feeling inspired action (not fear), check out Ideas for Self Reliant Living During Financially Turbulent Times (http://ronmauer.net/blog/).

[Sunny-side-up]

Thanks for the post jagman.
I hope your wrong, if Yellowstone goes up we will all suffer, even here in GB

And what a loss that would be for nature, such a beautiful place.

Stay safe
Alan.

[Star Tsar]

Hey Jagman seems you are not alone in your suspicions.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/natural-wonders/the-big-one-is-coming-californian-earthquakes-ignite-yellowstone-supervolcano-fears/news-story/1cfcd1dc56f36720022c0cfb95ad2e07

[Ratszinger]

Suspicious Observers and others say the earth is indeed tilting and the magnetic north is moving at an alarming rate. This on top of sun activity and something heating up all the planets makes one think it's just a matter of time. I imagine in my mind a glass and in the glass is earth and rock and in the middle you can see this yellow liguid which when the glass is upright has a magma chamber but a space between at the top. However if you imagine with me that we tilt the glass even a little bit that empty chamber at the top fills some anyway, and if the tilt continues well, it fills up and the new space has to form where gravity now puts it. So, I imagine this taking place all over the planet is going to bring some serious activity.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks for the post jagman.
I hope your wrong, if Yellowstone goes up we will all suffer, even here in GB


To be honest, suffer isn't really the word. If Yellowstone really went up, and is anything akin to previously documented Supervolcano eruptions, it will be the END OF ALL THINGS. There might a few pockets of survivors, scattered on this continent or that, but in essence it would be the End of the world. Extra gas and a bug-out bag won't really do much good!

[jagman]

The Midwest is also in danger. There is a fault about 60 miles south of me. It's called " New Madrid ". I actually heard that there are 6 active volcanos that could be effected by the Cali Quake. All that Energy has to go somewhere. Simple 9

[Satori]

Nothing is going to happen at Yellowstone for a very, very long time. My opinion is that when it blows, and it will, we need not worry. Mother Nature/Earth will weather it fine in the long run.

[jagman]

Your probably right Satori

[jagman]

I hope nothing happens! If something does happen let it be a small event hurting no one!

[Star Tsar]

No living thing even!

[jagman]

Your right Star Tsar no living thing!

[Star Tsar]

As impossble as it may seem.

:Avalon:

[cursichella1]

Hey Jagman seems you are not alone in your suspicions.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/natural-wonders/the-big-one-is-coming-californian-earthquakes-ignite-yellowstone-supervolcano-fears/news-story/1cfcd1dc56f36720022c0cfb95ad2e07

Yes, I've been see this on Long Valley all over Twitter for the past two days.

[conk]

Keeping a full tank of gas, having a bug out bag, water filter and dehydrated food is inexpensive preparation for some. And if there is no eruption the gas will get used and the rest will keep for a very long time.
If you are feeling inspired action (not fear), check out Ideas for Self Reliant Living During Financially Turbulent Times (http://ronmauer.net/blog/).Good luck sitting on the freeway with thousands of others fleeing.

A small eruption may be survivable by a 100 mile distance, but a big one will obliterate everything within 600 miles pretty quickly. Then the subsequent dust clouds could occlude Sunlight and kill off the rest over time. Scary knowing it is likely at some point. Surely many thought they were safe until that last moment when the 2,000 mile per hour blast of fiery death caught them. It has happened and it will happen.

[ichingcarpenter]

MAP

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/151/590x/Yellowstone-volcano-eruption-caldera-map-942467.jpg


A Yellowstone eruption simulation published in the journal Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems by hydrologist Larry Mastin, revealed upwards of one metre of volcanic ash would blanket areas surrounding the volcano.

The study reads: “We simulated eruptions lasting three days, one week, and one month, each producing 330km cubed of volcanic ash, dense‐rock equivalent (DRE).

“Results demonstrate that radial expansion of the umbrella cloud is capable of driving ash upwind (westward) and crosswind (N‐S) in excess of 1500km, producing more‐or‐less radially symmetric isopachs that are only secondarily modified by ambient wind.

“Deposit thicknesses are decimetres to meters in the northern Rocky Mountains, centimetres to decimetres in the northern Midwest, and millimetres to centimetres on the East, West, and Gulf Coasts.”



https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/942467/Yellowstone-volcano-eruption-caldera-map

[AutumnW]

Jagman,

Thank you for passing this along. It is great that you qualified the information, too, that you aren't zealously trying to sell anybody on the idea. Just what is needed here.

[Ratszinger]

The dust is extremely heavy. Once settled even a thin layer is the equal to the same thickness of a glass sheet on say your roof or your car! As this thickens it gets heavier and heavier to the point that once it becomes a 2" thick layer of heavy glass the roof collapses on anything short of rock or stone buildings capable of withstanding the pressures.

[Bill Ryan]

Suspicious Observers and others say the earth is indeed tilting and the magnetic north is moving at an alarming rate.

Well, magnetic north is moving, for sure. But the earth isn't 'tilting'!

[HaveBlue]

Bill, don't you mean the earth is not tilting any more than usual? Our seasons, and procession of the equinox is all because of the earth tilting. It is about 12 degrees if memory serves.

[jagman]

I'm not sure how deep the Cali Quake was but I know it released a enormous amount of energy. That energy went somewhere maybe that's what's going on in the gulf right now. The news has been stating that the water is already 90 degrees and it's normally that hot in in August?

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, don't you mean the earth is not tilting any more than usual? Our seasons, and procession of the equinox is all because of the earth tilting.Right: the Earth's not increased or changed its tilt. :)

[jagman]

There was a 7.1 quake in Indonesia yesterday. I don't think it hurt anyone.

[ExomatrixTV]

What If Yellowstone Blows Up In 2021?

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[Sunny-side-up]

was trying to find info here on the above but not found.

Yellowstone park, anyone have up to date info?

[Sunny-side-up]

OK plenty of info, many thx.

[ExomatrixTV]

"I've been told we have only 30 days" with Joe Rogan

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Joe Rogan delves into the terrifying history and potential catastrophic consequences of this sleeping giant. Could this year be the year it awakens again?

Imagine a world where a volcanic eruption covers the entire United States with ash, plunging the continent into darkness for months. It may sound like a doomsday movie, but the Yellowstone supervolcano has the potential to make this nightmare a reality. Scientists fear its eruption, similar to the devastating Tambora eruption in 1815, could trigger climate change and catastrophic consequences worldwide.

In this gripping episode, Joe Rogan breaks down the science behind supervolcanoes and their explosive power. The Tambora eruption, which claimed over 70,000 lives, ejected a mind-boggling 175 cubic kilometers of volcanic debris. To put it in perspective, that's enough to bury the state of Rhode Island under almost 57 meters of ash! The eruption's impact was felt across the globe, with winds carrying ash and gases that provoked a chilling anti-greenhouse effect, leading to global cooling.

Joe Rogan also explores the infamous Krakatoa eruption of 1883, which unleashed a cataclysmic tsunami and produced the loudest sound ever recorded in history. The eruption resulted in the deaths of 36,000 people, destroyed coastal villages, and sent waves as far as the Hawaiian Islands and South America. The aftermath of Krakatoa serves as a chilling reminder of the devastating power of supervolcanoes.

[Inversion]

Unusual activity under Yellowstone according to detectors. The geomagnetic storms have apparently caused subterranean movement. A similar thing is happening at Campi Flegrei (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world&p=1614826&viewfull=1#post1614826) in Italy. Earthquake anomoly during a Kerry Cassidy interview (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105732-Kerry-Cassidy-s-Project-Camelot-Interviews&p=1600370&viewfull=1#post1600370). We could be looking at a Hegelian dialectic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic) scenario.

05/23/24 (3:42)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOGM8T9rdSs

[Inversion]

There was an explosion at Biscuit Geyser Basin in Yellowstone National Park. According to the X comment (https://x.com/17thbodhisattva/status/1815824733566558623) no one was injured. It could have been a man or reptilian made explosive device for the psychological effect.

51centadventures (http://www.51centadventures.com/2019/04/biscuit-geyser-basin-yellowstone.html)

07/23/24 (1:15)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdTi6rpnNuM&list=RDNSYdTi6rpnNuM&start_radio=1

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Discover the Shocking Connection Between Increased Volcanic Activity and Earth's Core!
Recent seismic activity around Mt. St. Helens, with hundreds of earthquakes shaking the region, has raised alarm bells among scientists worldwide. But that's not all – volcanic activity is surging globally and some researchers believe they may have found a startling link. Could these phenomena be connected to the Earth's inner core slowing down or even reversing?
In this video, we dive deep into:
* The unprecedented earthquake swarm at Mt. St. Helens.
* The surge in volcanic eruptions around the world.
* Groundbreaking studies on the Earth's inner core dynamics, as detailed in recent research published by Nature
* The alarming situation in Iceland with the potential eruption of Grindavík
* The latest insights into the potential global impact of a reversing core.



"Unprecedented Earthquake Swarm at Mt. St. Helens: Is the Earth's Core Reversing? 🔥🌋"

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A Yellowstone Explosion!

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