World Wealth and Collateral Accounts. What Collateral accounts?

[GuyFox]

World Wealth and Collateral Accounts. What Collateral accounts?

HOW MUCH WEALTH really exists on our planet?
Are there problems with wealth concentration, and taxation?

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/jimolsen2/wwr_2013_infographic_push_zps89a6daf4.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/jimolsen2/media/wwr_2013_infographic_push_zps89a6daf4.jpg.html)
> enlarge: http://www.capgemini.com/sites/default/files/en/2013/06/wwr_2013_infographic_push.jpg
> source: http://www.capgemini.com/thought-leadership/world-wealth-report-2013-from-capgemini-and-rbc-wealth-management

I suppose this video from Ron Van Dyke, or "ParadoxMan", could be useful as a source of Comedic fodder:

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By the sad fact is the too many people think like RVD, and maybe even a few who read PA threads and post here.

The realization that many people ACTUALLY think this way got me thinking - maybe Proj-A is a good place for a thread that looks at HOW MUCH WEALTH really exists on this planet. And this thread could be a place to point people like Mr Van Dyke, so they mighty realize how wild and crazy are the fantasies that he is harboring, and promoting with his comedic videos...

Let's look at one short part of the Video - Here's what RVD says:
(At 4:26 minutes in ):
"These trusts that were set up by St Germaine are humongous trusts...
"The wealth is so vast, it's mind-boogling.
"It's enough to make every person on the planet... to make every single one of us a millionaire."

Hey, THAT is nonsense, and rather obviously so - for reasons we can discuss in detail on this thread.

The problem is, there really is :
A BIG ISSUE about Wealth Concentration on Planet Earth.
And if we are going to make some genuine progress in addressing this issue, we need to examine World Wealth in a realistic what, not with dreams wrapped up in cotton candy, and impossible expectations.

[Rollo]

I would say we are very wealthy in terms of were we live and we tend to forget about it.

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What are worth money created out of tin air anyway. Give me one million of it and I will be "better" and all problems will go away.
It's like religion. Even if this collateral accounts exist they are managed by the most fanatical followers and believers in the realness of it.
They can wait forever until give away day will come. At least this people think it will. "In God we Trust"

[Pam]

World Wealth and Collateral Accounts. What Collateral accounts?

HOW MUCH WEALTH really exists on our planet?
Are there problems with wealth concentration, and taxation?

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/jimolsen2/wwr_2013_infographic_push_zps89a6daf4.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/jimolsen2/media/wwr_2013_infographic_push_zps89a6daf4.jpg.html)
> enlarge: http://www.capgemini.com/sites/default/files/en/2013/06/wwr_2013_infographic_push.jpg
> source: http://www.capgemini.com/thought-leadership/world-wealth-report-2013-from-capgemini-and-rbc-wealth-management

I suppose this video from Ron Van Dyke, or "ParadoxMan", could be useful as a source of Comedic fodder:

m7aSB7ijA0s

By the sad fact is the too many people think like RVD, and maybe even a few who read PA threads and post here.

The realization that many people ACTUALLY think this way got me thinking - maybe Proj-A is a good place for a thread that looks at HOW MUCH WEALTH really exists on this planet. And this thread could be a place to point people like Mr Van Dyke, so they mighty realize how wild and crazy are the fantasies that he is harboring, and promoting with his comedic videos...

Let's look at one short part of the Video - Here's what RVD says:
(At 4:26 minutes in ):
"These trusts that were set up by St Germaine are humongous trusts...
"The wealth is so vast, it's mind-boogling.
"It's enough to make every person on the planet... to make every single one of us a millionaire."

Hey, THAT is nonsense, and rather obviously so - for reasons we can discuss in detail on this thread.

The problem is, there really is :
A BIG ISSUE about Wealth Concentration on Planet Earth.
And if we are going to make some genuine progress in addressing this issue, we need to examine World Wealth in a realistic what, not with dreams wrapped up in cotton candy, and impossible expectations.


I don't want to agree or disagree whether there are trusts or not, I don't know. What I do know is that if everyone was given a million dollars within a short period of time things would return to roughly the same as they were before the millions were distributed. The concentration of wealth is just the symptom. Until consciousness is evolved or elevated we are doomed to repeat these scenarios over and over. It is far to simplistic to state that if TPTB(the bogyman) was out of the picture everything would be great. Most people can't even get along with their neighbors.Respect for the planet and other life forms is in short order. It is so easy to point the finger at the evil ones, and there are evil, self serving people in charge that could care less if we live or die, but they are not the sole problem. How many of us if given a large chunk of money would neglect our own needs and wants to disperse the money amongst mankind indiscriminately?

[GuyFox]

A larger question is : What is wealth?

Well, I will agree with many here who would say that the GENUINE WEALTH worth striving for is...
found in a close and loving community.
That can be a family, or even a larger community, if one is fortunate.
If you have all the money and possessions that you have ever asked for, can you really be happy,
if you are alone and/or shunned by those around you? I think not.

So, maybe we can start with that, agreeing about the truly important stuff.

That done, let's move on to what RVD spoke about, and most people have spoken about: "Tangible Wealth".
How much of THAT is on the planet.

Here's a summary from a website I have visited:

/// Calculation : done Oct.1, 2013 ///

WORLD WEALTH Categories
======================
Asset Type ------ : -Global- : -U.S.A- : Global measure
=======
Stock markets --- : $ 65 Tr. : $ 15 Tr. : 2010 Valuation was $50 Trillion
Real estate------- : $ 27 Tr. : $ 07 Tr. : See below
Savings deposits - : $ 18 Tr. : $ 06 Tr. : Assumed Global was 3X USA
Other bank dep.-- : $ 09 Tr. : $ 03 Tr. : Assumed Global was 3X USA
Gold in vaults ---- : $ 07 Tr. : $ 01 Tr. : 5.2 billion oz x $1,325 per oz.
Other Wealth ---- : $ 74 Tr. : $ 18 Tr. : Plug, to get to $200 Trillion, $50 Tr.
===========
- Grand-Total--- : $ 200 Tr: $ 50 Tr. :

Population------- : 7 billion : 317 mn. :
Per Person------ : $28,571: $157.7K :

( That's $28,571 in Average wealth for every person on the Planet )
( And : $157,700 in Average wealth in the USA for every American.)

Other: Govt owned?
Mines, Oil wells : $ ??? Tr : $ ??? Tr. : Double-counted? in Stock Mkt.?

(I don't count)*:
Bank Derivatives : $ 700 Tr. $ 350 Tr. : From ZeroHedge, June 2011
Per Person------- : $100.0K :
===========

* Like Apples and Oranges, or you could say:
"Like apples and pictures of oranges", because Derivatives exposures are not measures of Wealth

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If this $200 Trillion estimate is correction,
then the High New Worth targets of the Banks control $46 Trillion,
or about 24% of the Total, which makes a some sense to me,
and the $200 Trillion figure may even be on the high side.

What do you think? Have I missed anything?

Next, I want to talk about How:
+ WEALTH normally generates INCOME for its holder,
+ DEBT generates and EXPENSE for its holder

But I have Left loans out of the above figures, because these are basically transfer payments from the Borrower of the Lender. A loan borrowed and a loan repaid do not add any real tangible wealth to the system. (Not on the pure financial side.) But if you build a new apartment house, where people want to life - for example - you may be adding to the Tangible Wealth of a community.

[yelik]

I would say it's very difficult to assess the amount of wealth in the world. According to Steven Greer he believed the elites, banks and oil cartels controlled some $600 trillion. According to David Icke the Queen alone is worth about £17 trillion.

[gripreaper]

Hey, it's TONIGHT! :) Look what I found!

GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS. THE FED IS HISTORY, NEW MONEY IS PRINTED THAT IS GOLD AND SILVER BACKED, NO MORE FEDERAL RESERVE. WOW, WOW, WOW. HOORAY. CHINA HAS SAVED THE US FROM BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. CANADA WILL BRING THE US OUT OF DEBT WITH THEIR GOLD.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST MIND BLOWING NEWS OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFETIMES!!!! THE GENIE IN THE BOTTLE HAS NOW BEEN RELEASED. YOU HEARD IT FIRST FROM ME. HYPERINFLATION IN CHINA IS CREATED BY THE FED BOGUS DEBT.

BYE, BYE, FED. FED IS DEAD. FED DIED TONIGHT. ALL THE 19 INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY COUNTRIES JUST KICKED THE FEDERAL RESERVE OUT OF THE ARENA PERMANENTLY.

60 TRILLION DOLLARS STOLEN BY US PRESIDENTS AND CONGRESSMEN. ALL THE DEBT GOES AWAY. EVERY COUNTRY FORGIVES EACH OTHERS DEBT. ALL NATIONAL DEBTS GO AWAY. DONE. HISTORY.

THIS IS THE YEAR OF JUBILEE AS TOLD IN THE BIBLE.

WE ARE NOW A REPUBLIC. US TREASURY, 6.2 TRILLION. WE ARE NO LONGER THE STATUTORY US CORPORATION. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT THE CLOCK!!!!

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/

[GuyFox]

I would say it's very difficult to assess the amount of wealth in the world. According to Steven Greer he believed the elites, banks and oil cartels controlled some $600 trillion. According to David Icke the Queen alone is worth about £17 trillion.

$600 Trillion?
A completely silly and ridiculous number - that's about 3X the $200 Trillion number figure, based on counting the actual "beans" - the assets on this planet.

Tell me please: Where do you think the extra wealth is stored? (this is a genuine question)

In other words, which of the following Asset items are under-counted? And What is your evidence, please?:

WORLD WEALTH Categories
======================
Asset Type ------ : -Global- : -U.S.A- : Global measure
=======
Stock markets --- : $ 65 Tr. : $ 15 Tr. : 2010 Valuation was $50 Trillion
Real estate------- : $ 27 Tr. : $ 07 Tr. : See below
Savings deposits - : $ 18 Tr. : $ 06 Tr. : Assumed Global was 3X USA
Other bank dep.-- : $ 09 Tr. : $ 03 Tr. : Assumed Global was 3X USA
Gold in vaults ---- : $ 07 Tr. : $ 01 Tr. : 5.2 billion oz x $1,325 per oz.
Other Wealth ---- : $ 74 Tr. : $ 18 Tr. : Plug, to get to $200 Trillion, $50 Tr.
===========
- Grand-Total--- : $ 200 Tr: $ 50 Tr. :
============================

If you say: "I have no idea", then I think you have to reject Dr Greer's number, since it is likely he has not thought it through.

An extraordinary claim like this, requires extraordinary evidence, do you agree?

This careful approach can be used to expose some of the Prosperity Scams that have been put forward.
Here's an example of how to POP a "scam bubble":
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[GuyFox]

Reacting to a bogus claim...


Hey, it's TONIGHT! :) Look what I found!

GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS. THE FED IS HISTORY, NEW MONEY IS PRINTED THAT IS GOLD AND SILVER BACKED, NO MORE FEDERAL RESERVE. WOW, WOW, WOW. HOORAY. CHINA HAS SAVED THE US FROM BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. CANADA WILL BRING THE US OUT OF DEBT WITH THEIR GOLD.
. . .
IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT THE CLOCK!!!!
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/

LOL.
Of course you know that is complete nonsense!
Nesara comes out with horsefeathers like that maybe Once a Week, if not more often.
It is amazing how many people have fallen for something transparently wrong!

You know, the same website, has been pushing the "Dinar RV" for about 7 years.
Here's how Karen Hudes dismisses those silly claims:

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[GuyFox]

THE WEALTH SHIFT - from West to East is occurring at a very rapid pace...

The staggering amount of wealth being generated in Asia is no surprise, but here are some numbers:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-09/china-riches-fuel-asia-as-world-wealth-tops-150-trillion.html

USD37 trillion of private wealth in Asia ex-Japan alone. A 31% increase in 2013.

[yelik]

A completely silly and ridiculous number - that's about 3X the $200 Trillion number figure, based on counting the actual "beans" - the assets on this planet.

Tell me please: Where do you think the extra wealth is stored? (this is a genuine question)

Hi Guy
I have no idea where Steven Greer got his number from, would need to ask him. I would imagine there's large amounts of unaccounted assets around the world.