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Cidersomerset

8th June 2014, 09:40

Like all of us interested in the UFO phenonomen , it is difficult to know what
is real or dis info. I'm pretty sure that they are real whether they are extra
terrestrial , an advanced civilisation that has always been here sharing the
planet, inter dimensional beings, or 'us' from the future coming back as there is no
time just one gigantic now. It is very plausible that if government
agencies know this especially security services they would try to keep it
secret under the national security threat. You only have to see the fuss about
Snowden and other 'whistle blowers' to appreciate the 'Power' paranoia of
the elites that run this world imo....

In post 4 below Linda Moulten Howe plays an interview with 'Cooper Stein' ( alias )
about the Roswell aliens and his work with the the CIA and other agencies in the
continuing cover up of alien visitations and craft . She presents information about a
captured extraterrestrial that was kept at a location inside Papoose Mountains just
south of the secret S4 facility in Nevada.

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Majestic 12: A UFO Disinformation Scandal

Sunday 8th June 2014 at 05:09 By David Icke

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Published on 4 Jun 2014

Open Minds Special Report - The origins of the Majestic 12 documents has its roots
in a complicated set of events that included disinformation, hoaxes, and lies. For
this reason, most of this history has been lost or is glossed over. However, the true
origins of the documents and how UFO researchers came to know the term Majestic
12, is important when assessing their legitimacy. We have taken months to
investigate this story, which has included working with the public relations
department of the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations. While our
investigation is ongoing, in this video we share with you what we have found thus far.

To see a list of sources, and to download the documents we refer to in this story, visit: http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u...

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Miragemen.......MOJFK posted this on post 9 further down the page ......
The thread was started before the vid was released hence the ref to it in the posts below......

Our Bill appears a couple of times in it once briefly commenting about Richard
Dotty, then a bit longer talking about the Serpo project.

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Cidersomerset

8th June 2014, 10:52

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Open letter to the U.S. Air Force regarding allegations of UFO disinformation

Posted by: Alejandro Rojas May 6, 2014 10 Comments 10,401 Views

I sent this letter to the U.S. Air Force on July 11, 2013 to solicit an official response
to allegations by ex-special agent Richard Doty of the U.S. Air Force Office of
Special Investigations (AFOSI) that he participated in spreading UFO
disinformation. Among his claims, he says he broke into a civilian’s home, created
hoaxed documents, and lied to two U.S. Senators. Some of these are criminal acts
that he claims he committed on orders from his superiors in the AFOSI. Whether or
not this is true, these acts were committed while he was an AFOSI special agent,
and I believe the U.S. Air Force needs to respond.

After working with the AFOSI public affairs department on Freedom of Information
Act Requests (FOIA) related to this incident, I was told I would be able to speak to
someone who could give me an official response. However, once I received the
documents I was told they had nothing further to say.

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Allegations of Criminal Misconduct

Air Force Office of Special Investigations Agent Richard Doty claims to have
partaken in the acts of misinforming members of congress, breaking into the
private residence of a civilian government contractor, and disseminating known
forgeries of government documents while on active duty in the 1980s. Furthermore,
he claims to have committed these acts on the orders of his superiors at AFOSI.

Although his claims have garnered a large amount of public attention, including
having been the subject of several books (including one by New York Times
Journalist Howard Blum), and were directly related to the government contractor
mentioned above having been temporarily committed to a mental health facility,
the U.S. Air Force has yet to comment on the veracity of his claims.

Was the U.S. Air Force involved with these criminal acts, as claimed by Doty, and if
not what was done regarding his conduct?

Background

Beginning in the 1980s, Paul Bennewitz began reporting strange lights over the
Manzano area of Kirtland Air Force Base, and claimed to have recorded unusual
signals emanating from the base (1). Bennewitz was the owner of Thunder
Scientific, a humidity company with contracts with Kirtland and several other
branches of the military and government contractors (2). He believed the lights and
signals were due to extraterrestrial activity (3).

According to documents retrieved from previous FOIA requests, officers at Kirtland
looked at his evidence on two occasions and decided not to investigate (1)(3).
Bennewitz contacted Senator Harrison Schmitt and Senator Pete Domenici, both of
whom made inquiries about the status of the investigation on Bennewitz’s material
to Air Force Office of Special Investigations Special Agent Richard Doty. In both
cases, Agent Doty informed the senators that there was no AFOSI investigation on
this matter (3)(4). Likewise, the files do show that after each review of Bennewitz’s
material, it was recommended that an investigation not be initiated (1)(3). This is
the extent of the material regarding Bennewitz and AFOSI in these files.

However, Richard Doty has since claimed that he lied to the senators on behalf of
AFOSI, and that there was a disinformation campaign underway against Bennewitz.
According to statements he has made to several associates, and on at least one
national radio program, he told Bennewitz there was an investigation and he gave
Bennewitz hoaxed material to support this claim (5). The first such document was
given to Bennewtiz after Senator Schmitt’s inquiry, and just prior to Senator
Domenici’s (3)(4)(14).

According to Doty, and witnessed by others, he continued his campaign to convince
Bennewitz that he was actually experiencing extraterrestrial phenomena for several
years. New Mexico state police officer Gabe Valdez claimed in interviews with me
that he was present when Doty flew Bennewitz over the town of Dulce, New Mexico
(6). Doty claims he convinced Bennewitz that there was an alien base under nearby
Archuleta Mountain.

It was during this time that Doty claims he was ordered to break into Bennewitz’s
residence. He told this to the author of a book on his disinformation activities titled,
Project Beta: The Story of Paul Bennewitz, National Security, and the Creation of a
Modern UFO Myth (7), and to retired U.S. Army Colonel John Alexander (8).
Eventually, Bennewitz became so paranoid regarding an extraterrestrial invasion
that he had to spend time in a mental institution (5).

Doty continues to spread information on UFOs and aliens he alleges to have
received while working for AFOSI (5). Many of the documents he disseminated
during his campaign against Bennewitz have grown into huge modern mythologies,
spawning books, movies and TV shows.

Although on two occasions the Air Force has stated that documents pertaining to
this matter, allegedly dispensed by Doty, are not real (9)(10), they have not
spoken to whether Doty was under orders, as he claims, when he lied to the
senators, broke into Bennewitz’s home, and dispensed material to Bennewitz
making him believe he was under investigation. The question then is not whether
the documents are hoaxes, but whether Doty hoaxed these documents under his
own volition, or was ordered to do so as a part of a disinformation campaign, as he
claims is the case.

If Doty was not acting under orders, this would mean he was forging government
documents while he was an active AFOSI agent. In that case, AFOSI needs to
respond to whether they were aware of Doty’s activities, and if so, what action was
taken. It would be surprising to find AFOSI was not aware of this sort of criminal
activity going on for several years by one of their agents. Doty has indicated he
was demoted at one point, however, this is not documented in the military records
I obtained through FOIA, nor is the reason for this demotion (11). It is also
unknown whether this demotion has any relation to the apparent criminal activity
related to this case.

The official AFOSI Bennewitz files

These files have been obtained separately through FOIA requests by UFO
researcher and author William Moore, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy (CAUS), and
Navy physicist, Bruce Maccabee. Because of the multiple sources, and the high
credibility of Dr. Maccabee and the files released by CAUS, I believe these
documents to be legitimate. The USAF has informed the recipients that these are all
of the files related to AFOSI and Bennewitz. I am seeking confirmation through my
own pending FOIA request (Case # 2013-03291-F). [This was written prior to the
fulfillment of my FOIA request, which was fulfilled August 2, 2013, and included
the same documents I reference here. View the documents I received here.]

The first document is a Multipurpose Internal OSI Form dated October 28, 1980,
and signed by Major Thomas Cseh. The subject is “Alleged Sightings of Unidentified
Aerial Lights in Restricted Test Range.” It states that Bennewitz contacted Doty
through Major Ernest E. Edwards. Bennewitz claimed to have “knowledge and
evidence of threats against Manzano Weapons Storage area.” On October 26, 1980
Doty, along with Jerry Miller, Chief Scientific Advisor for the Air Force Test and
Evaluation Center at Kirtland, went to Bennewitz’s residence and conducted an
interview. It is noted that Miller had experience investigating UFOs with Project
Blue Book. They reviewed photographs, 8mm film, and recording tapes showing
periods of high levels of electrical magnetism emitted from the Manzano/Coyote
Canyon area. They noted Bennewitz also had surveillance equipment pointed at the
base to record high frequencies (1).

They concluded that there were some type of “unidentified aerial objects” caught on
the film, but they could not determine whether they posed a threat. They also
found the electronic recording tapes to be inconclusive. They informed FTD [Foreign
Technology Division] of their findings who wanted to inspect Bennewitz’s data, and
briefed their command. However, it was noted that command “did not request an
investigation at this time (1).”

The second file is another Multipurpose Internal OSI Form dated November 26,
1980, and also signed by Major Thomas Cseh. The subject is again, “Alleged
Sightings of Unidentified Aerial Lights in Restricted Test Range.” The report
describes a meeting that took place on the base on November 10, 1980, between
Brigadier General William Brooksher, seven other officers, and Bennewitz.
Bennewitz presented film and photographs which he believed to be of alien
spacecraft, and described how he believed he was in contact with these aliens. He
requested a grant to further research his interactions. One of those present, Dr.
Lehman, Director of the Air Force Weapons Laboratory at Kirtland, told Bennewitz
he would help him fill out paperwork to request a grant from the USAF (3).

This document then states that on November 17, Doty advised Bennewitz that
AFOSI would not investigate the objects, and that they were “not in a position to
evaluate the information and photographs.” It also says that on the date of the
report, November 26, 1980, Doty received a phone call from Senator Harrison
Schmitt inquiring about AFOSI’s role in the investigation of the sightings reported
by Bennewitz. Doty advised Schmitt that AFOSI was not investigating the
phenomenon and referred him to another AFOSI district. Schmitt declined and said
he would check with the Secretary of the Air Force to determine the correct USAF
agency to investigate the phenomena. The final note in this document is that
Bennewitz had many conversations with Senator Schmitt, and Schmitt had in turn
called Brigadier General Brooksher on multiple occasions regarding Bennewitz’s
sightings (3).

The third document is an AFOSI communication form noting a meeting between
Senator Peter Domenici and Doty regarding Bennewitz. It is signed by Colonel
Frank Huey. It says that the IG [Inspector General] contacted AFOSI to advise
them that Senator Domenici wanted to talk to Doty. Colonel Harvell approved the
meeting, and Domenici, who was already in the IG’s office, went directly to speak
to Doty. The report then says a subsequent check was made with Domenici’s aide,
Mr. Tijeros, to find out what they wanted to discuss with Doty. Tijeros said they
wanted to know whether AFOSI had conducted a formal investigation of Bennewitz.
Tijeros was informed that there was no formal investigation. Tijeros indicated that
Senator Domenici will likely make no further inquiries into the matter (4).

These three documents seem to indicate that AFOSI humored Bennewitz by
examining his evidence, but did not engage in a formal investigation. Doty served
as the point of contact to inform Senators Schmitt and Domenici, as well as
Bennewitz, that AFOSI would not be investigating Bennewitz’s alleged alien evidence.

Richard Doty’s claims

The source for the claims I am referring to is a radio show appearance by Richard
Doty on February 27, 2005. It was on a night time program called Coast to Coast
AM, with a very large international listening audience. Although Doty has done
many other interviews, they are almost all in print or online. Often his claims vary
from one interview to another, and when pressed on this point, Doty often denies
he made the statements. This includes a book he is credited as co-writing titled,
Exempt from Disclosure. He claims he did not write the chapter credited to him,
although his co-author notes he did sign the paperwork to authorize the book and
cashed the checks for payment. Either way, I use the radio interview because it is
similar to the core story he has been portraying in other interviews, and is one of
the few sources with his verifiable direct statements.

According to Doty, in reference to his visit to Bennewitz’s residence with Miller on
October 26, 1980, he says “The report was that this person had sufficient
knowledge and the right equipment to tap into sensitive communications equipment
and sensitive projects that was (sic) occurring in Kirtland.” The radio host, Art Bell
responded, “Alright, somewhere in the mix of all this comes disinformation. In
other words, you are going to admit tonight, I believe, that you dispensed
disinformation, is that true?” To that Doty responds: “That is absolutely true.” Doty
explained that this was done to protect base secrets. He said, “what we did is that
we convinced him that what he was picking up wasn’t anything classified from the
base, but in fact it was probably of alien origin (5).”

Doty says that Bennewitz also believed there was an alien base under Archuleta
Mountain, near Dulce, New Mexico. Doty claims he worked with personnel from Ft.
Carson to help perpetuate this idea. Doty explains, “We had a couple of black
helicopters, and we had some things planted onto the ground around Archuleta
peak, and just to convince him that what he was actually looking at, what he
thought, actually was an alien base (5).”

Doty said that this disinformation campaign was an easier way to handle
Bennewitz’s collection of sensitive Air Force activities than making him stop. He
says, “It was easier for us to have done it that way than to get a warrant, a search
warrant and a seizure warrant and seize all of his property and seize his equipment.
What would that do? That would cause a lot of publicity, and the wrong type of
publicity the base wanted (5).”

Bell asked Doty if he was aware that Bennewitz eventually ended up needing
psychiatric care. Doty responded, “Yes, and I visited Paul a number of times.” He
continued, “I was trying to convince Paul, and I went to his son to do this,
that ‘hey, everything we told you before, Paul, isn’t true.’ And I explained to him
why we were doing it, but he never believed me (5). “

Bell asked if he had any remorse for what happened to Bennewitz, to which Doty
replied, “…it upset me what happened to Paul. I mean I went and tried to talk to
Paul about it, against my commander’s orders. He told me, ‘Hey, he doesn’t have
the clearance. You can’t go over there and tell him this stuff didn’t happen.’ But I
did anyway, because I was concerned about Paul (5).”

Bell then asked Doty if there were other cases of UFO deception that Doty was
involved with. He replied, “…pertaining to just UFOs, it was the four operations.”
One of which he said was regarding researcher Linda Howe. He says, “…we invited
her to Kirtland, we showed her some information pertaining to UFOs, we showed
her a document and tried to bring her in and hook her on a hook, and she took it
initially and then we carried on a contact with her over a period of time, meeting
her at different locations and providing her with some information.” This is
important because Doty has denied bringing Howe to Kirtland in the past, and has
also denied showing her anything on UFOs. However, according to Howe, the
document she was shown is very similar to a hoaxed document given to another
UFO researcher, William Moore (5).

Doty elaborated on his association with Moore, saying, “Bill Moore was recruited by
another person within Defense Intelligence Agency to provide disinformation.” In a
letter to the editor in the July 15, 2000 issue of Saucer Smear, Doty wrote, “Moore
was a coded source for OSI. That means he provided intelligence information that
was documented. He was paid for his information. Moore was used to provide
disinformation to Ufologists (12).” Although the details change, to my knowledge,
Doty has never denied Moore’s involvement (5).

Finally, in regards to all of this, Doty claims in the radio program, “I followed
orders. Everything we did was following orders (5).”

Although Doty claims the Bennewitz affair was disinformation, he also claims he
was briefed on UFOs when he joined AFOSI. He says the briefing stated, among
other things, “[Roswell] was real. We had an alien. It was in captivity up until 1951.
He was kept at Kirtland and he was kept at Los Alamos. He died in the later part of
1951.” Doty also claims the alien liked strawberry ice cream and Tibetan music (5).

Hoaxed documents

This section will review hoaxed documents linked to Doty, most of which are
connected to the events we have reviewed thus far. We will also review one
document that surfaced just prior to Doty’s interactions with Bennewitz. The
significance here is that if Doty is to be believed, these documents, which have had
a significant impact on the UFO research community and society in general, are
official fabrications of the USAF. If these documents were not created in a
disinformation campaign, then Doty either alone or with others, participated in
hoaxing official government documents.

Moore, the UFO researcher mentioned in the radio program, was co-author, with
Charles Berlitz, of the book The Roswell Incident, which was published in 1980. It
was the first book on the alleged UFO crash in Roswell. He says that in 1980 he was
approached by a high level intelligence official, the same person Doty referenced
earlier as working in the DIA, who said he and others knew the truth about UFOs
and wanted the information out, so they would help him with his work. Moore gave
this man the code name “Falcon” and says the he was told he would work primarily
through a liaison that turned out to be Doty. Many have speculated that Doty was
Falcon, but Moore denies this (13).

Moore says he began providing Falcon and Doty information on the UFO community
and Paul Bennewitz. During a speech at a UFO conference in 1989, Moore said, “My
role in the affair was largely that of a freelancer providing information on Paul’s
current thinking and activities. I had nothing whatsoever to do with the
counterintelligence and the disinformation (13).” However, he later claimed he was
involved with dispensing at least one hoaxed document (14).

Moore says he worked with Falcon and Doty until 1984 (13). Rumors of his
involvement with government agents eventually lead him to come clean in the
aforementioned speech in 1989, at which point he retired from UFO research. In
1990, along with his research partner, Jamie Shandera, he released a document
called The MJ-12 Documents: An Analytical Report, which analyzed the documents
related to the Bennewitz Affair.

The first hoaxed document Moore examines is not part of the Bennewitz affair, but
it does have links to Doty. It is a letter, along with an Air Force Incident/Complaint
Report, from Ellsworth Air Force Base, regarding a UFO encounter. The letter
claimed the incident had occurred on November 16, 1977, and was subsequently
classified on December 2, 1977. The author claims he wanted to get the
information out before the Air Force covered it up. The letter was sent to the
National Enquirer (14). According to Bob Pratt of the National Enquirer, those
named in the letter were questioned, and the letter was determined to be a hoax (15).

It is included in Moore’s report because he says Doty was stationed at Ellsworth at
the time (14). Military records for Doty I obtained also show Doty was at Ellsworth
from 1976 to 1979 (11). When Moore asked about the document, Doty told him he
was aware of the “operation,” to create the document, but did not have any direct
involvement (14).

The second document is a letter sent to a UFO organization called the Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization (APRO) in July of 1980 about a UFO sighting
that was witnessed by Craig Weitzel near Pecos, NM. It claims Weitzel was
stationed at Dobbins AFB, but was visiting Kirtland. The letter claims a man in a
black suit told Weitzel he saw something he should not have and demanded
photographs of the object that Weitzel had taken. The man writing the letter claims
he was a friend of Weitzel’s, and was himself stationed at Kirtland. He said Weitzel
had spoken to an OSI agent named “Mr. Dody (sic)” about the matter (17).

Moore worked with APRO at the time the letter was received. He says the letter was
loosely based off a real sighting, but was a hoax. He also says he didn’t know it
then, but he found out later that Doty had written this letter. He says Doty told him
the letter was meant to draw someone out of APRO who could provide information
on Bennewitz, which, as we have seen, Moore eventually did end up participating in (14).

The third document is the first piece of disinformation allegedly given to Bennewitz.
Moore says the document was given to him by Falcon and Doty to give to
Bennewitz (14). The document was an alleged secret AFOSI teletype dated
November, 1980. It was regarding analysis of Bennewitz’s photographs and alleges
that this investigation is part of a secret project called Aquarius “with restricted
access to ‘MJ Twelve’.” It claims NASA is monitoring the case and that AFOSI is
gathering evidence and forwarding it to NASA (18).

Moore says he was given the document in March of 1981, but because he was
hesitant to give knowingly false information to Bennewitz, he did not deliver it until
late that summer (14). This timing is notable, because it was late summer,
specifically July 30, when Senator Domenici went to Kirtland to ask about the
Bennewitz investigation (4). Although Bennewitz and Senator Schmitt had already
been told there was no AFOSI investigation (3)(4), the receipt of this document
could explain why Bennewitz and/or Senator Domenici believed there was an
investigation in the summer of 1981.

The fourth document is a list of notes allegedly used to brief President Carter on the
UFO situation with bombastic claims of Air Force cover-ups regarding crashed UFOs,
alien technology, interactions with aliens, etc. The cover again mentions Project
Aquarius and “MJ12″ (19). Moore says he was allowed to view and photograph this
document in March of 1983 (14). In April of 1983, Linda Howe says she was invited
to Kirtland Air Force Base by Doty and shown this document, or one very similar.
As noted above, in the radio interview, Doty confirms this (5).

The fifth and final document is an MJ-12 Eisenhower briefing. This document was
sent to Moore’s research partner, Jamie Shandera, on December 11, 1984, in a
package from Albuquerque, New Mexico. The document was on 35 mm film (14).
The document’s content shows similarities to the alleged Carter briefing, including
the mention of MJ-12 (20)(14), first referenced in the teletype (18). It was also
sent from Albuquerque, where Doty lived at the time and was still stationed at
Kirtland AFB. However, Doty denies having created or sent the document (14).

Moore also denies having created the document (14). Allegedly acting on an
anonymous tip, Shandera and Moore claim to have found a supporting document in
the National Archives on July 18, 1985. This document is a July 14, 1954 memo
from Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to the President, to General Twining regarding
a “NSC/MJ-12 Special Studies Project.” It is a short memo and discusses the date
and time of a meeting. It does not allude to the nature of the meeting (14). The
National Archives has since released a paper outlining 10 points that “pose
problems” for the authenticity of the document (22). Otherwise, there has yet to be
any verifiable official reference to MJ-12.

The FBI undertook an investigation of the MJ-12 Eisenhower Briefing due to
multiple requests. That investigation included a request to AFOSI headquarters
inquiring about its authenticity. AFOSI claimed the document to be “bogus,”
however, neither they nor the FBI have commented as to the document’s origins
(9). To date, AFOSI has not commented on whether they have any involvement
with the creation of the documents, as alleged by their own AFOSI agent, who, as
demonstrated, was very closely related to the individuals who allegedly were
anonymously given these documents, a document which also shares similarities to
other documents that he asked to be given to Bennewitz, and had shown Moore
and Howe.

According to Doty, “The FBI did an investigation on me because of the MJ-12
documents. It was 88 or 89… They thought I disclosed those documents (5).” If this
is true, the results of their investigation have yet to be revealed.

Conclusion

Due to the extent at which the mythology created by Doty’s official or non-official
disinformation campaign has worked its way into an alleged hidden history of Air
Force and U.S. government secrecy, and due to the negative impact these events
had on Mr. Bennewitz and his family, we deserve a response from the Air Force on
their involvement, or non-involvement in this matter. Mr. Doty is now a sergeant
for the New Mexico State Police, based out of Grants, and he continues to make
wild accusations about the Air Force’s secret knowledge of UFOs and aliens. If he
was not under orders to fabricate these documents, as he claims, then his
employers and those he continues to attempt to perpetrate hoaxes upon, deserve
to know this.

Sources

on link.......http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegations-ufo-disinformation/27071

Cidersomerset

8th June 2014, 11:03

Mirage Men UFO Documentary for 2014

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Published on 14 Feb 2014

Check out our Website! ► http://www.covertchronicle.com

New ufo documentary for 2014 folks and it's called Mirage Men. This is a
documentary that basically talks about what great lengths our government goes to
disinform the public about UFOs and aliens. Great Ufologists such as Linda Moulton
Howe and Richard Dolan comment on the subject. I really didn't mention anything
about Richard Dolan in my video, but I'm really grateful he contributed to the ufo
documentary. Some of the stuff he said was very interesting, it makes you think,
like if our government and aliens are monitoring us after bits of information is
released to us. Do they pshcologically feed on us? It just seems like the skies the
limit now with UFOs.

And to actually meet an official disinformant agent to come clean about UFOs...
Richard Doty really didn't say a whole lot about UFOs, but he sure had a lot of
stories to tell about disinforming the public. It's obvious the government will go
great lengths to keep things covered up, even if that means driving people to an
insane asylum, like Paul Bennewitz.

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Exclusive Sneak Peek: Who is Linda Moulton Howe?

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Published on 25 Mar 2014

From the forthcoming movie Mirage Men (http://ykr.be/1s5r44stli)

Ufologist/conspiracy theorist Linda Moulton Howe calls the quest to unravel the
truth behind government involvement in UFOs a "fractured hall of mirrors with a
quicksand floor."

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Aprox 1min 50 secs in the comment sounds very
much like our Bill ..?..

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Published on 25 Jun 2013

Trailer for the feature length documentary by John Lundberg, Mark Pilkington,
Roland Denning and Kypros Kyprianou. A journey into paranoia, disinformation and UFOs.

To be released in USA and Canada, March 2014, by Random Media through Yekra https://www.yekra.com/mirage-men

North American Premiere at Fantastic Fest, Austin, September 2013 http://fantasticfest.com/films/mirage...

World Premiere at the Sheffield Doc Fest June 13th 2013

UFOs: weapons of mass deception... For over 60 years teams within the US Air
Force and Intelligence services exploited and manipulated beliefs about UFOs and
ET visitations as part of their counterintelligence programmes. In doing so they
spawned a mythology so powerful that it captivated and warped many brilliant
minds, including several of their own. Now, for the first time, some of those behind
these operations, and their victims, speak out, revealing a true story that is part
Manchurian Candidate and part Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

http://www.miragemen.com

Cidersomerset

8th June 2014, 11:21

yelik

8th June 2014, 16:44

Interesting. We all know our governments lie about many things all the time especially about the ET agenda and advanced technologies. We also know that a disinformation campaign and mass phone tapping started back in 1947.

I don't know about you but I have a hard enough time trying to determine the facts without trying to understand misinformation. It's a bit like the doctor ( bad ones) that eliminate what you haven't got rather than identifying what you have got.

mojo

8th June 2014, 16:52

We all know our governments lie about many things

so in that same vein... guess it's ok to lie on my tax return...;)

ghostrider

8th June 2014, 19:02

I have a feeling ... the military is doing just what other planets/races do ... build secret craft , fly to other worlds , pose as gods , enslave the lower developed ...the very thing that brought ships here , it's the same mentality ... you want to know about ET ??? they build ships fly to other worlds , pose as gods , enslave the people , and cover their tracks ... they just need to find lower developed planets , hmmm could it be the reason for all the huge TELESCOPES IN SPACE ??? looking for new worlds to conquer ... They learned it from ET ... Et knows this , the whole reason for them hiding themselves from us , they know we will do what their ancestors did ...We are not ready ... we cannot get along here with each other , imagine another planet full of people ...they monitor our progression , they will intervene when we can reach cosmic space ...

Cidersomerset

8th June 2014, 21:07

Richard Dolan On The Tall Whites And Break Away Civilization

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Richard mentions Charles Hall and the tall whites aprox 28 mins in and
says he tends to believe him and would like to do a extensive interview
with him. Richard discusses all aspects of his research into the UFO and
alternate civilisation field. So the title is a bit misleading, It mislead me
but still a interesting interview and Richard thinks ET's are probably real.

M0JFK

16th January 2015, 01:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYkm2bJKuY&feature=player_detailpage#t=5081

How can you trust anything after watching that?

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 12:38

How can you trust anything after watching that?

Interesting doc and confirms that the intelligence agencies have been putting
disinfo into the UFO field since the beginning which is what we all new. I watched
the movie about Alan Turing the father of the computer , yesterday and the
decoding of the German enigma machine which was supposed to be impossible
to decipher. Once accomplished with the usual 'lucky break' one of Alans co code
breakers realised they could save a convoy from imminent U boat attack. Alan said
they could not warn them as the Germans would realise the code had been
cracked .( How much of the film was fact or dramatized ) I'm not sure . Alan
probably had M16 orders already but it did not make this clear,though M16 did take
over, overall supervision it seemed. It must be kept secret , and was kept secret
officially for 50 years and theres some interesting parts about MI6 and how they
blackmailed homosexuals at the time, which has echos even today.

Alan Turing was a sensitive quite man who's secret homosexually and conviction
and forced hormone treatment to treat it drove him to commit suicide in the
prime of his life at the age of 41. Paul Bennewitz was also driven to despair and
paranoia helped along by the intel agents and died in 2003 a broken man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz

So when debunkers/ disinfo agents /trolls keep saying that secrets cannot be kept
by governments ? maybe politicians who are not in the know will claim these
secrets cannot be kept, but certainly intel and other agencies can keep top secret
info also putting out false leads to muddy the waters. Which is exactly their job !!

Some good individual testements from various researchers and disinfo agents and
some comments from our Bill about project Serpo.

As far as I can discern, only my opinion, Agent Richard Doty reminds me of Agent
Nick Pope two embedded disinfo agents still doing their work for 'Uncle Sam' and
QE2 'Lizzie' intel boys and gals ...LOL There are probably others knowingly and
unknowingly muddying the waters , which only proves to me there is a massive
UFO cover up.

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 18:15

Mirage Men ....radio discussion with film makers about the documentary....

There is one glaring miss , when the host about halfway thru asks about Dulce
either side of the brake , they seem to say the Dulce fire fight was a recent
add on to the UFO lore. Not mentioning Phil Schnieder was disclosing it and
probably murdered for exposing this info back in the early/mid 1990's. Whether
they dismiss his testimony or just did not know about it they did not say.
The latter would be odd for any serious film researcher on the subject.

They also mention Dr. David Clarke petitioning to save the UK UFO documents
like Nick Pope, David Clarke is ingenuous imo .these two don't sound like UFO
researchers to me but who knows, they are probably just coming at it from the
opposite angle , so I could be a bit unfair. Though are both skeptics and don't
believe in ancient astronaut theory or other current UFO memes , which is
fair enough but keeps it in perspective.

Phil Schneider
http://projectcamelot.org/schneider.html

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Mirage Men.....

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Published on 5 Oct 2014

http://www.miragemen.com/

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About the guest

Mark Pilkington is a writer, editor and filmmaker. He has written a weekly weird
science column, Far Out, for the Guardian's Life supplement and has been a
contributing editor to Fortean Times magazine. He has also written for, among
others, The Times, the Wire, Arthur, Plan B and has contributed to fiction and non-
fiction anthologies. He also edits Strange Attractor Journal, which was described in
the Independent on Sunday as 'a unique and necessary collection of eccentric
scholarship, weird journalism and obsessive research'.

About the film

UFOs: weapons of mass deception... For over 60 years teams within the US Air
Force and Intelligence services exploited and manipulated beliefs about UFOs and
ET visitations as part of their counterintelligence programmes. In doing so they
spawned a mythology so powerful that it captivated and warped many brilliant
minds, including several of their own. Now, for the first time, some of those behind
these operations, and their victims, speak out, revealing a true story that is part
Manchurian Candidate and part Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 19:09

Lets see if Jimmy can get anymore out of them....starts aprox 20mins in.
This seems to be a more relaxed interview with more time than the above
interview........

Ep.36 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Mirage Men R. Denning M. Pilkington LIVE on air

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Published on 16 Mar 2014

Mark Pilkington and Roland Denning are the guest and come on FADE to BLACK to talk
about their new documentary, Mirage Men...about how the govt OSI agent Richard Doty
helped drive Paul Bennewitz crazy by lying to him about what he knew about UFOs.
A stunning true story and a must listen interview...live from London, England.

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 21:27

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2hrs into the fade to Black interview above Mark Pilkington says he was part of the
John Lundburg Team who made crop circles..Who Richard D Hall concluded were
funded by British intelligence !!! Mark jokes about it and denies he is working
for British intelligence as he would but it puts a massive ? on his motives imo.

Mark does later say that he had a UFO sighting of three disc shaped craft, but does
not accept they were ET's more likely government projects. He is also a journalist
for Fourtean times.

Talking about deception artists......This is ironic or funny that the film makers may
not be what they claim ?? The crop circle deception has worked in general, so
why not get the same characters to do the same with UFO's?

Richard Hall talks about John Lundberg possible links to MI5.

Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth - Part 5

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Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth - Part 6

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Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 22:42

Linda Moulton Howe Interview, Podcast UFO, 12- 3 -2014 Talking about
her experiences with Richard Doty for first 20 mins......

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Published on 4 Dec 2014

In this show, Linda talks about being promised UFO landing air base footage,
disinformation, Richard Doty and loud booms, rumbles and earthquake swarms.

Bill Ryan

17th January 2015, 22:57

Linda Moulton Howe & The Extraterrestrial Reality, 24.04.14

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Published on 30 Apr 2014

Linda Moulton Howe presents information about a captured extraterrestrial
that was kept at a location inside Papoose Mountains just south of the secret
S4 facility in Nevada.

This YouTube video doesn't exist any more, but I found the audio here:

http://noufors.com/audio/Coast%20to%20Coast%20AM/Linda%20Moulton%20Howe%20&%20The%20Extraterrestrial%20Reality.mp3

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 23:25

Thanks Bill , Mark Pilkington seems to have dubious credentials especially after
listening to the Jimmy Church interview. I'm not sure what to make of him.
He did not feel right and after admitting to being in John Lundbergs crew,
who seems to be sponsored by M15 if you follow Richard Halls deductions
in the vids above. I know deception is riddled thru out the UFO field
and in general with false flags etc. Mark does say he is a skeptic so
fair enough I suppose , I can't put my finger on it yet .....LOL

As I said above John Lundbergs team Satan really muddied the crop circle
phenomenon with the public after it was obvious Doug and Dave could
not have made so many . Thus copy cat circle makers was an obvious
intel solution, and Richard Hall show the possible link back to MI5.

So it would make perfect sense for the intel agents to sponsor Mark to
muddy the UFO waters even more . Which Mark does flatly deny when
Jimmy Church jokingly asks him. The story is already compromised
from the original intel op with Richard Dotty , so it will be interesting
where Mark Pilkington goes from here.

Cidersomerset

17th January 2015, 23:43

This is a comprehensive presentation by Linda and she starts off explaining the five
types of Alien groups that were presented to President Reagan in the early 1980's
which might explain this....

UFO Ronald Reagan's speech about UFO Alien at UN 1987

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Contact In The Desert - Linda Moulton Howe - Extraterrestrial Resurrection Technology

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Published on 19 Nov 2014

2014 Contact In The Desert Conference

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18th January 2015, 00:01

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18th January 2015, 02:50

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Here's the full Mirage Men documentary — link valid for 7 days. Highly recommended. (Yours truly features quite a lot in the last 20 minutes :) )

http://we.tl/AFVBSsAwJe

onawah

20th January 2015, 17:18

UFO Cover Up Revelations: MJ12 & ET Quarantine -
Stanton Friedman
Published on Jan 5, 2015
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Dark Journalist speaks with legendary
UFO investigator and Nuclear Physicist,
Stanton Friedman and expose the UFO
cover up and unravel the COINTELPRO
that is spreading disinformation through
puppet debunkers and dubious movies
to discredit alien disclosure via covert
propaganda programs.

Together, they uncover the evidence
that shows that the Earth may now be
under an ET QUARANTINE due to its
warlike stance with the development of
the Star Wars Defense Systems and
Secret Space Program. They also
suggest that warnings from the ET
visitors may be the reason why NASA
has virtually dropped all of its Moon
missions and manned space travel.

Stanton Friedman is the most
respected author in the field of UFO
contact and has written the top
influential books on the subject
including the ground - breaking 'Top
Secret - Majic,' about the famous
Majestic Twelve or MJ12 documents
that reveal a clandestine government
program to deny the existence of
extraterrestrial visitors while reverse-
engineering their incredibly advanced,
futuristic technology.

From the secretive, breakaway
national security state players to the
stonewalling mainstream corporate
media gatekeepers, this new Dark
Journalist episode will shock you with
its implications of a deep, organized
plan to hide the reality of advanced,
interstellar, off-world visitors and the
tremendous impact they are having
on our daily lives.

As a bonus, Dark Journalist asks
Stanton to outline the secret world of
Donald Howard Menzel, who lived a
double-life as a famous Harvard
Astronomer and UFO debunker but
also as a key member of the hidden
MJ12 group that handled all UFO
evidence and technology for
intelligence purposes. He also reveals
his favorite UFO cases including the
Phoenix Lights, Betty Hill, Jesse
Marcel/Roswell, and more! You don't
want to miss this one!

Video Total: (111 mins)

http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/26943.html

Cidersomerset

20th January 2015, 17:48

This post was a duplicate from one I put on Onawahs thread so I swapped
it with this presentation......
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UFO Crashes, ET Tech and MJ-12 - R. Wood PhD LIVE
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Published on 2 Jan 2015

UFO Crashes, ET Tech and MJ-12 - R. Wood PhD LIVE The Majestic 12 Documents
have been leaked to the public by multiple independent sources since 1984 and tell
the history of UFO crashes and subsequent milita.

UFO Crashes, ET Tech and MJ 12 R Wood PhD LIVE youtube original The Majestic
12 Documents have been leaked to the public by multiple independent sources sinc.

Visit THE MJ-12 DOCUMENTS: WHERE DO THEY LEAD? with Dr. Robert Wood and
Ryan Wood. Dr. Bob and Ryan Wood have been a father-son t.

The Black Vault and UFO Secrecy John Greenewald, Jr LIVE youtube original John
Greenewald, Jr. has been exploring the document archives of the U.S. Governmen.

Cidersomerset

20th January 2015, 17:54

Thanks Onawah this interview should tie in with this thread which I posted
last year and forgot about. MOJFK posted the Miragemen documentary a
few days ago and opened up the debate.......

The vid below that says contact in the desert , is a version of Miragemen
other wise U'Tube would take down.....

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Majestic 12: A UFO Disinformation Scandal

Like all of us interested in the UFO phenonomen , it is difficult to know what
is real or dis info. I'm pretty sure that they are real whether they are extra
terrestrial , an advanced civilisation that has always been here sharing the
planet, inter dimensional beings, or 'us' from the future coming back as there is no
time just one gigantic now. It is very plausible that if government
agencies know this especially security services they would try to keep it
secret under the national security threat. You only have to see the fuss about
Snowden and other 'whistle blowers' to appreciate the 'Power' paranoia of
the elites that run this world imo....

In post 4 below Linda Moulten Howe plays an interview with 'Cooper Stein' ( alias )
about the Roswell aliens and his work with the the CIA and other agencies in the
continuing cover up of alien visitations and craft . She presents information about a
captured extraterrestrial that was kept at a location inside Papoose Mountains just
south of the secret S4 facility in Nevada.

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Majestic 12: A UFO Disinformation Scandal

Sunday 8th June 2014 at 05:09 By David Icke

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Published on 4 Jun 2014

Open Minds Special Report - The origins of the Majestic 12 documents has its roots
in a complicated set of events that included disinformation, hoaxes, and lies. For
this reason, most of this history has been lost or is glossed over. However, the true
origins of the documents and how UFO researchers came to know the term Majestic
12, is important when assessing their legitimacy. We have taken months to
investigate this story, which has included working with the public relations
department of the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations. While our
investigation is ongoing, in this video we share with you what we have found thus far.

To see a list of sources, and to download the documents we refer to in this story, visit: http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u...

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Miragemen.......MOJFK posted this on post 9 further down the page ......
The thread was started before the vid was released hence the ref to it in the posts below......

Our Bill appears a couple of times in it once briefly commenting about Richard
Dotty, then a bit longer talking about the Serpo project.

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72055-Majestic-12-A-UFO-Disinformation-Scandal&p=842179#post842179

Hervé

20th January 2015, 18:58

UFO Cover Up Revelations: MJ12 & ET Quarantine -
Stanton Friedman
Published on Jan 5, 2015
[...]

Onowah posted this a separate thread but obviously ties in with this one....

UFO Cover Up Revelations! MJ12 & ET Quarantine - Stanton Friedman & Dark Journalist

[...]

Hi both!

I merged both threads on onawah's request :)

Cheers!

Hervé

Cidersomerset

20th January 2015, 19:49

As Stanton says one of the bedrocks of the Roswell incident
is the testimony of Base Intelligence officer Major Jesse Marcel Snr.
and how the situation was handled at the time quashing the initial
reports on the media that the Army Air Force had retrieved a UFO.
To the infamous press conference held by Gen Ramey showing
journalists weather balloon debris ,basically saying my intelligence
officer and others in responsible posts in the most important Airbase
in the world are ' idiots' and they are not allowed to comment
about it........

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The Ramey Memo: Best Roswell Cover-Up Evidence ever Found

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Uploaded on 23 Dec 2010

JULY 8TH GEN. RAMEY ROSWELL MESSAGE. Researcher for the International UFO Museum
and Research Center. He is also head of the computer department of the Eastern NM
University in Roswell and spent time in the Army as a criptographer. Through computer
enhancement and his experience in deciphering code, Don has been able to read much of
the text on the letter in the photo.

The photograph was taken on July 8, 1947 by a news photographer, Bond Johnson. The
glossy print Donald used was taken directly from the original negative.

The letter was typed on a teletype which has a fixed width for each letter. This realization
helped Don in his task. The deciphered text is below. I have used italics where Don was
uncertain about the letter and asterisks where a letter or word is missing. The translation
is broken by the lines on the original letter. Some words are missing due to the position
of the letter in Ramey's hand and the fold in the letter.

So, here it is:

RECOVERY OPERATION WITH ROSWELL DISK 274 (OR 074?) MJ -12 AT THE

*WORD MISSING* AND THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE

TEAM AT FORT WORTH,TEX.

M*SS*** (MISSING OR MESSAGE?) ON THE "DISK" MUST HAVE SENT *** (THE?) ***** LABORATORY

*WORD MISSING* *R*ENT (URGENT?). POWERS ARE NEEDED SITE TWO AT CARLSBAD N. MEX.

*WORD MISSING* SAFE TALK NEWSPAPER MEANING OF STORY AND *WORD MISSING*

NEXT SHOW *WORD MISSING* OF WEATHER BALLOONS 400-K* 509 AND LAND L*** DENVER CREWS.

TEMPLE (Signature Line)

Now, lets see what we can learn from this. The letter obviously mentions a disk at
Roswell but we all knew it had crashed there. It mentions Denver crews. The Lowrey
Army Air Fore Base in Denver was the mortuary for the Army in 1947. So that fits.
The Army normally calls people, civilians or military, who are killed in a crash
"casualties" rather than "victims". The word "victims" externalizes the issue.
"They're not OUR people."

The "TEMPLE" in the signature line was a secret CIA classification, like paging
Dr. Blue or Dr. Red in a hospital. But there was a Major Temple on the staff of
General Dolittle in 1947. Dolittle was sent to Sweden in 1946 to investigate
UFO's sighted there. So there is a connection there.

The most interesting revelation is the mention of Carlsbad. There has never been
a mention of Carlsbad as a possible site of a UFO crash. Louis Rickett was assigned
to Carlsbad in 1947. Don has done some preliminary research into the possibility of
a crash there. He has discovered that a military group from White Sands Missle
Range visited Carlsbad the week before the Roswell crash. And, several Civil Air
Patrol groups from California visited Carlsbad arriving on C-64 transports and Army
planes. That's a lot of military "field trips" to the Caverns. Don is now pursuing a
review of the visitor's logs of Carlsbad Caverns for that period to see if these soldiers
signed in. I'll keep you posted!

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Cidersomerset

20th January 2015, 21:26

I found this while looking around U'tube on this subject and is an
older doc made for the history channel with contributions from a
younger Stanton and Richard Dolan , not as heavy as some of
the presentations and shows the basis of the Majestic 12 theory.
Then you can go back to the discussions with it fresh in you mind.

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