View Full Version : Philip Giraldi - Is Israel a U.S. ally?
Deega
11th June 2014, 22:27
Hi, here is a video presentation (short) from a former counter-terrorism specialist presenting Israel, not as a ally!
"Philip Giraldi is a former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Giraldi is a recognized authority on international security and counterterrorism issues. He is a regular contributor to Antiwar.com in a column titled "Smoke and Mirrors" and is a Contributing Editor who writes a column called "Deep Background" on terrorism, intelligence, and security issues for The American Conservative magazine. He has written op-ed pieces for the Hearst Newspaper chain, has appeared on Good Morning America, MSNBC, National Public Radio, and local affiliates of ABC television. He has been a keynote speaker at the Petroleum Industry Security Council annual meeting, has spoken twice at the American Conservative Union's annual CPAC convention in Washington, and has addressed several World Affairs Council affiliates. He has been interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the British Broadcasting Corporation, Britain's Independent Television Network, FOX News, Polish National Television, Croatian National Television, al-Jazeera, al-Arabiya, 60 Minutes, and Court TV. He prepares and edits a nationally syndicated subscription service newsletter on September 11th issues for corporate clients. Giraldi is the Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a group that advocates for more even handed policies by the U.S. government in the Middle East."
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Matt P
11th June 2014, 22:59
Don't even need to watch the video. Simple question. NO, Israel is not an ally. The name USS Liberty mean anything to anyone? And, of course, 9/11, among many others. Need we say anything more? Unless you believe the lying mainstream media and the fake reality control matrix. Glad/hope to see this go more mainstream! Israel is the tug boat pulling us and the submarine pointing it's torpedoes at us at the same time (though should clarify it's the Israeli zionists in charge, not necessarily the Israeli people--sound familiar?).
Matt
thunder24
11th June 2014, 23:04
The spiritual, IS-RA-EL? is an ally.
the ZIONIST regime of Terrorist that occupy Palestinian lands surely is not.
jake gittes
11th June 2014, 23:35
What mpennery said.
linksplatinum
12th June 2014, 00:42
Uhhhh... NOPE!!! Hahaha, but seriously, those clowns think that this is their circus and we are the acts in the show. WRONG...
Tesla_WTC_Solution
12th June 2014, 03:29
I love the Jewish people (the ones I know personally!), but people can't look at Israel without also eventually running into the UK involvement 100 years ago.
It's just not possible to separate the two powers. And the more the UK leans toward an alliance with Russia (as weird as that sounds!), the weirder and more desperate our situation w/ Israel may become.
Of course I could be totally wrong about further chaos, and we could enter an unexpectedly peaceful (and vapid?) period of "faux plenty" thanks to some "new tech" proposed by the world gov't types. I.e. Vatican, or US, or China ----- who knows who this dark horse could be?
Following the period of senseless wars, a period of fattening and stupidity makes sense -- total forgetfulness followed by a complete collapse of the system.
Guess I would be more leery of enforced peace than open war, but that's naivete talking.
I fear the global currency struggle that we are going to see. Where the gold went etc. and who can actually back up their talk w/ hard cash.
I.e. who has precious metals, resources like rare earths etc. when the paper burns.
Doesn't seem like EU and USA are looking too pretty in this beauty contest.
USA hasn't maximized exports in any regard that I know of and EU is strangling on its own overgrown tongue/thirst for so called 'fossil fuels'.
With Russia always happy to hand Europe a bottle, just like the white trappers did to the Indians.
Give them a drink and take everything they have (including good relations with USA).
9/11 messed up a LOT.
and Macondo distracted us a lot.
from natural gas.
sorry i am always beating the natural gas drum -- but when Europe gets desperate, terrible things happen.
in conclusion i have no idea what to think about Israel!!
I have no idea what UK and Russia are scheming together and how Israel sizes up on the global altar in terms of which goat is next for the hatchet.
p.s. a country created by UK should not be USA's spiritual parental figure...
what happened to the war for independence and the american revolution?
all for nothing? for poisoned dust and burning oil? :(
GuyFox
12th June 2014, 09:41
Is your "friend" someone who:
+ Secretly steals money from your accounts
+ Grabs control of your livelihood, and starts ordering you to do things
+ Taxes you, and spends money on THEIR agenda, whether you like it or not
+ Hires people to tell you constantly how wonderful they are
+ Weaponises language, so if you complain, or say something negative about them,
you can lose your career, your freedom, or maybe your life
???
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies
An AGENDA to Neutralize-Israel:
WHAT WE NEED NOW IS:
+ An immediate end to: Easy (no visa) access into USA by Israelis who may be dangerous
(they should be on the same footing as any other neutral /or suspicious country)
+ No more Israeli dual citizens in US government leadership: Congress, the Senate
+ Quotas (= double their percentage of population) on Jews on: Supreme Court, the Fed, Congress,
and for teaching jobs in US universities
+ Records to be kept on religious affiliations, country and ethnic origins of convicted criminals,
especially in the financial sector
DOES ANYONE THINK THESE ARE UNFAIR?
If so, I am interested in having a debate - I may be wrong - but I think these need discussion
thunder24
12th June 2014, 12:33
I love the Jewish people (the ones I know personally!), but people can't look at Israel without also eventually running into the UK involvement 100 years ago.
It's just not possible to separate the two powers. And the more the UK leans toward an alliance with Russia (as weird as that sounds!), the weirder and more desperate our situation w/ Israel may become.
My buddy always says Is-ra-el? is a middle eastern outpost for MI6....
Limor Wolf
12th June 2014, 12:55
Israel is not allied with it's citizen's as well, alas, not all of them know it yet
Deega
12th June 2014, 17:31
Is your "friend" someone who:
+ Secretly steals money from your accounts
+ Grabs control of your livelihood, and starts ordering you to do things
+ Taxes you, and spends money on THEIR agenda, whether you like it or not
+ Hires people to tell you constantly how wonderful they are
+ Weaponises language, so if you complain, or say something negative about them,
you can lose your career, your freedom, or maybe your life
???
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies
An AGENDA to Neutralize-Israel:
WHAT WE NEED NOW IS:
+ An immediate end to: Easy (no visa) access into USA by Israelis who may be dangerous
(they should be on the same footing as any other neutral /or suspicious country)
+ No more Israeli dual citizens in US government leadership: Congress, the Senate
+ Quotas (= double their percentage of population) on Jews on: Supreme Court, the Fed, Congress,
and for teaching jobs in US universities
+ Records to be kept on religious affiliations, country and ethnic origins of convicted criminals,
especially in the financial sector
DOES ANYONE THINK THESE ARE UNFAIR?
If so, I am interested in having a debate - I may be wrong - but I think these need discussion
Thanks GuyFox for your assertive comments!
I think that there is an underlying historical event, it must have hiddened links to the Financial World such that since 1948 (if I got the right year), this nation of great citizens but less so their leaders can kill Palestinians children, and no Nation do much about it..!
And, what type of events is needed such that the Community of Nations decides overwhelmingly that their status is over and done? Your opinion is welcomed!
The best to you!
Deega
12th June 2014, 18:36
Don't even need to watch the video. Simple question. NO, Israel is not an ally. The name USS Liberty mean anything to anyone? And, of course, 9/11, among many others. Need we say anything more? Unless you believe the lying mainstream media and the fake reality control matrix. Glad/hope to see this go more mainstream! Israel is the tug boat pulling us and the submarine pointing it's torpedoes at us at the same time (though should clarify it's the Israeli zionists in charge, not necessarily the Israeli people--sound familiar?).
Matt
Thanks Matt, a vigorous statement, Yes!, I have read of the USS Liberty, unfortunate for the US Marine and families at the time.
There must be a hidden event that allows the Israel Leadership to continue doing what they are doing to the Palestinians!, time will bring, at one point or another a balance in Leadership in the Middle East.
The best is yet to come!
Deega
12th June 2014, 18:46
in conclusion i have no idea what to think about Israel!!
I have no idea what UK and Russia are scheming together and how Israel sizes up on the global altar in terms of which goat is next for the hatchet.
p.s. a country created by UK should not be USA's spiritual parental figure...
what happened to the war for independence and the american revolution?
all for nothing? for poisoned dust and burning oil? :(
Thanks Tesla for your disparate comments, very interesting!
Quite impossible to predict what will happened to the Israeli Nation!, but as we all know, the Leadership of this Nation doesn't have any respect for their neigbours, on children, even on their financial provider (backer) the US, when a Nation has reached such extreme, something got to give somewhere, maybe the cycle has come to fruitition. Time will tell, hopefully, we will be a witness to this.
The best to you!
Tesla_WTC_Solution
12th June 2014, 20:30
thank you!
it broke my heart to see the news of the two Israelis who self-immolated recently.
The man in Tunisia did this out of total and complete desperation (burned himself to death in front of the governor's place?) --
and the people in Israel did it for the same reasons.
the disabled are being treated almost as badly there as they were by Hitler.
it makes me wonder, what is wrong with that country -- can't they even take care of their own wounded?
:(
reminds me of the times of Charles Dickens -- we need a jewish Charles Dickens to tell us what's going on!!!
avid
12th June 2014, 20:47
Israel is NOT an ally, it's the Zionists promulgating their own agenda, and Palestine is a sacrifice we don't need
Limor Wolf
12th June 2014, 20:51
thank you!
it broke my heart to see the news of the two Israelis who self-immolated recently.
The man in Tunisia did this out of total and complete desperation (burned himself to death in front of the governor's place?) --
and the people in Israel did it for the same reasons.
the disabled are being treated almost as badly there as they were by Hitler.
it makes me wonder, what is wrong with that country -- can't they even take care of their own wounded?
:(
reminds me of the times of Charles Dickens -- we need a jewish Charles Dickens to tell us what's going on!!!
This is what is happening there
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72103-Do-Americans-deserve-the-Trouble-Flowing-their-way&p=843042&viewfull=1#post843042
There is so much under the surface.. nothing is as it seems to be
Lifebringer
12th June 2014, 22:23
you forgot to mention the missing remaining 6 nukes of the 9 taken. They've been trying to pit one nation against the other and I think the targets on our government because the Bush's put the Nazi's of Hitler's SS in our alphabet and military science departments on condition of no death from the Hague. I think when the Jewish survivors were hunting them down and some were in the government and when reported, nothing happened. Revenge for the Nazi's may have put that target on our backs. Our villains of yesteryear strike again. But like I said, it appears they want the big boys to rumble, and will go into Russia's far reich thinking counties to rabble rouse and cause overthrows in the country's uniform or camouflage. They've been caught in Syria, Iraq, Somali, Egypt, and now Crimea. To turn the baddest dogs against each other by setting them up, and then surprise, all the technology stolen by spys utilized in a weakened state of the nations. Banking, credit, resources, judiciary CONstitutions for FED handling of the nation's assets or wealth. Everything with a price, is on the table.
I'll never forget Madelayne Albright's snide reply to someone who said going into Afghanistan will cost the country in treasure and lives for years to come. Does the Senate committee think it's worth all that?"
Albright: "WE think, it's worth it!" I wanted to kick the tv screen at how she easily put our sons and daughters on the line for resources in Afghanistan like rubies, gold, tungsten, diamonds, emeralds, gold and a pipeline. Israel had a plan for a pipeline straight through Palestine, Iraq, Iran through Afghanistan. Like a resource train trolley of collections. In 2005-06, we found out they signed a contract w/England to provide oil from Iraq. W and Cheney were known for slant drilling into other wells like a siphon of their oil supply before it hits the count on the meter cap. So much and a few more loose ends to connect. Still wondering about that Malaysian Boeing 777 in Israel's Airport visual by google? Another set up against this country? Still no word of all those people and if someone killed them, they can never allow it to find out. Reality is, they can't stop it from coming out and too many sites sharing whatever they find.
GuyFox
13th June 2014, 01:24
(checking the recent "shocking" news - is the public waking up?):
BRAT Beats the Cabal's Man (House Majority Leader, Eric Canton)
His huge fund-raising did not save him
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/jimolsen2/EricCantor_zps866cb40b.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/jimolsen2/media/EricCantor_zps866cb40b.jpg.html)
No. 2 Republican in Congress, and a strong supporter of Israel
In a shocking political defeat guaranteed to upend Republican Party politics, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia lost his primary election Tuesday to a tea party newcomer who hammered the No. 2 leader on immigration reform. It was the first downfall of a congressional leader in a generation.
Establishment Washington reeled from the moment the polls closed as Cantor, the ambitious leader with his sights on becoming the next House speaker, trailed Dave Brat, a local college professor who rustled for tea party support at a time when GOP leaders elsewhere have succeeded in halting the ascent of hard-right candidates.
In the end, Brat claimed an easy victory over the seven-term incumbent in the Richmond-area district.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/jimolsen2/eric-cantor-Poll_zpsba1bf6af.png (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/jimolsen2/media/eric-cantor-Poll_zpsba1bf6af.png.html)
Cantor, part of a new generation of GOP leaders who called themselves Young Guns, reacted in full force in recent weeks. The majority leader pummeled the airwaves, spending more than $5 million on the race, including a direct-mail piece that took a harder line against immigration reform than Cantor previously had advocated.
In many ways, however, the show of force gave more oxygen to the little-known Brat, who had few resources and almost no outside cash funding his underdog effort. To Cantor’s millions, Brat raised only $200,000, and spent even less, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Among those who advocate changing the nation’s immigration rules, Cantor's loss seems likely to dash all hope that the House will act on any legislation to provide a citizenship path for some immigrants -- as Cantor had once proposed.
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> http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-na-pn-cantor-loses-to-tea-party-challenger-20140610-story.html
As Whip, Cantor was the second-ranking House Republican, behind Minority Leader John Boehner. He was charged with coordinating the votes and messages of Republican House members. Cantor became the Majority Leader when the 112th Congress took office on January 3, 2011. He is still the second-ranking Republican in the House behind Speaker Boehner, who is considered the leader of the House Republicans.
Cantor is a member of the Republican Jewish Coalition and the Republican National Committee. He is one of the Republican Party's top fundraisers, having raised over $30 million for the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
. . .
As of June 2014, Cantor is the only Jewish Republican in the United States Congress. He supports strong United States-Israel relations. He cosponsored legislation to cut off all U.S. taxpayer aid to the Palestinian Authority and another bill calling for an end to taxpayer aid to the Palestinians until they stop unauthorized excavations on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.[31] Responding to a claim by the State Department that the United States provides no direct aid to the Palestinian Authority, Cantor claimed that United States sends about US$75 million in aid annually to the Palestinian Authority, which is administered by the U.S. Agency for International Development. He opposed a Congressionally approved three-year package of US$400 million in aid for the Palestinian Authority in 2000 and has also introduced legislation to end aid to Palestinians.
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> Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cantor
GuyFox
13th June 2014, 02:20
What if... Jews ran America ?
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Nine
13th June 2014, 07:35
thank you!
it broke my heart to see the news of the two Israelis who self-immolated recently.
The man in Tunisia did this out of total and complete desperation (burned himself to death in front of the governor's place?) --
and the people in Israel did it for the same reasons.
the disabled are being treated almost as badly there as they were by Hitler.
it makes me wonder, what is wrong with that country -- can't they even take care of their own wounded?
:(
reminds me of the times of Charles Dickens -- we need a jewish Charles Dickens to tell us what's going on!!!
This is what is happening there
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72103-Do-Americans-deserve-the-Trouble-Flowing-their-way&p=843042&viewfull=1#post843042
There is so much under the surface.. nothing is as it seems to be
Limor,
Now that is the truth....
Nothing is as it seems....
Does America deserve the trouble we are getting?
No she does not since she is an occupied entity....I can not say this in any other way....
Are Jews the problem in the media? Probably....some Jews are that is....as it were....
Did you ever watch Pinky and the Brain?
A mid 90's cartoon series produced by Steven Spielberg who I know did his obligatory documentary of the Holocaust.....
I watched it when my kids were young....
Is not paying lip service an obligatory act in the world of holy-wood?
Pinky and the brain seems so real in the twenty first century....
Just asking a question....as it were....
Was there not a time before Zionism when folks simply got along in the middle east and folks cared for each others children and ran schools no matter the religion....
I was told that I was very sane by someone whom I dearly respect but I certifiably have to wonder about sanity that's for sure...
Nine
Nine
13th June 2014, 07:48
What if... Jews ran America ?
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Dearest Guy,
If we truly are America first sort of folks do we not have to first ask a question about our dearest Brother Nat and his avowed allegiance to the Russian federation in spite of president Putin's Awesome leadership upon foreign affairs?
I love Bro Nat...however, my perspective is not Russian but American and American first....
It seems to be rather convenient to say that every world problem is of American origin and most are ....but it is beyond that even...it is more the intent of our occupiers to see that we are total scum and looser's on a world stage....
Would the destruction of America serve the interests of a greater humanity?
Or would the world fall prey to even more savage slavery ......if that America were destroyed....probably from within....as it were...
Yes I know my sanity is in question here....
Nine
GuyFox
13th June 2014, 08:07
"If we truly are America first sort of folks do we not have to first ask a question about our dearest Brother Nat and his avowed allegiance to the Russian federation in spite of president Putin's Awesome leadership upon foreign affairs?
I love Bro Nat...however, my perspective is not Russian but American and American first...."
- Nine
America First?
What does that really mean.
Does that mean let's focus on America's interests first?
Before Israel's, before Russia's, before Europe's.... before Illegal immigrants from Mexico
If that is what you mean, why not say it plainly?
Nothing I have been suggesting would harm America. To the contrary, it might reverse the harm that is being done.
So once again, I invite you to plainly say what you mean.
Nine
13th June 2014, 08:07
This fine Gordon Duff Article...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/09/ordered-suppressed-the-other-cold-war/
It is about the cold war and its aftermath and the war that never ended...
This article is the heart of the mater...
The philosophical and spiritual matters of that war that is still ongoing to this day...
And now you know that I am insane...Duff says so...
Nine
Nine
13th June 2014, 08:23
"If we truly are America first sort of folks do we not have to first ask a question about our dearest Brother Nat and his avowed allegiance to the Russian federation in spite of president Putin's Awesome leadership upon foreign affairs?
I love Bro Nat...however, my perspective is not Russian but American and American first...."
- Nine
America First?
What does that really mean.
Does that mean let's focus on America's interests first?
Before Israel's, before Russia's, before Europe's.... before Illegal immigrants from Mexico
If that is what you mean, why not say it plainly?
Nothing I have been suggesting would harm America. To the contrary, it might reverse the harm that is being done.
So once again, I invite you to plainly say what you mean.
Well Guy,
It means an open dialogue of all of your concerns....
My Mexican pal says the wall is a way to keep you Gringos out...as it were...
Let me tell you that I have a few pals living it up south of the border on that "OPM" pension along with SS benefits....can I say that here...
It means live and let live...
America is occupied territory and who those folks are are I have no clue....they are not Jews that is for sure...nor are they Christians nor are they Islamic.... I think the term you are looking for is Zionist....
It also means for the US military to look at the role of internal conspirators on 9/11 and their foreign counter parts...
It means that any salvation for America will come from its own military establishment but they are cowardly and craven and seek only an OPM pension...
It is grim for America....clear enough...
Nine
Nine
13th June 2014, 08:31
Did you ever watch pinky and the brain ....Dearest Guy...
A Jew made that cartoon....
We will take over the world....
Ha...ha ha...
Nine
Deega
13th June 2014, 16:41
In Reference to post 17.
Thanks GuyFox, may it be that the delegates become aware more and more on the behind the scene actions of Republicain (this case), Democrats (elected officials) and they are fed up with what come out (behind the scene), and they vote accordingly..?
GuyFox
13th June 2014, 23:26
People are waking up.
As Preston James says in this interview: Israel may have to pay a horrible price for what it has done to America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBY-Q0LTLTI
Learn about:
+ The Intel-Cowboys ("they are p-ssed")
+ Israel's threatened Samson Options
+ The cute antics of the Bvsch family
As Mike Harris cautions:
The payback should be visited on the corrupt leadership, not the Israeli people,
many of whom are against what their Zionist government has done
Tesla_WTC_Solution
14th June 2014, 01:59
Ralph Nader came to my college once in 2001 in order to address the students.
Afterward, he took questions from the handful of students who bothered staying.
I had the chance to ask him "how can we really make a change?"
He told me, "You have to start in your community."
It was sad that so few students took the opportunity to speak to this man.
"Community," he said.
And 13 years later, I finally realize what he was saying -- that we don't have to be nationalists in order to make a difference.
We have to start by improving our community. Lots of you guys aptly pointed out that those who are insular and aloof could do better, integrating into their communities rather than exploiting or shying away from them.
At this point in the conversation, I suppose a Christian would feel compelled to admit,
it's not so much a Jewish problem as it is something akin to Abraham and Ishmael...
when Jesus was rejected as Messiah and killed for what he said, a certain element chose to remain slaves to the law.
He who said "I am the way, the truth and the life", is also the "truth that we know and by which we are set free (from the law)"...
IMO rejecting the prophet was like going back into Egypt.
What happened to Christ was like what happened to Moses when he came down from the mountain and saw the golden calf.
It was a return to Egypt, to slavery.
First the rejection of the law and then the rejection of the Christ!
The Jewish people have assumed such a heavy burden --
and you remember what the devil offered Jesus on Mt Zion?
The power over all the thrones of the world.
My personal prayer for Israel is that they stop eating honey from the dead lion......
GuyFox
14th June 2014, 02:15
Tesla,
Do you think the Jews of Israel are capable of joining forces, and ridding themselves
of their "Zionist problem"?
If they can fix the mess in their own community, it would win them respect everywhere
Meantime, as Preston James says:
"The Intel Cowboys are very p-ssed off at Israel and Mossad, for their role in 9/11."
It sounds like the Zio influence is not going to be very welcome in the USA.
Tesla_WTC_Solution
15th June 2014, 17:10
Tesla,
Do you think the Jews of Israel are capable of joining forces, and ridding themselves
of their "Zionist problem"?
If they can fix the mess in their own community, it would win them respect everywhere
Meantime, as Preston James says:
"The Intel Cowboys are very p-ssed off at Israel and Mossad, for their role in 9/11."
It sounds like the Zio influence is not going to be very welcome in the USA.
That's a great question -- I don't know -- I think it would be like Arab Spring except less media attention.
Bigger crackdown and fewer cameras.
I somehow doubt the british media would allow enough coverage of their priceless jewel falling from the crown. :( lol
p.s. don't forget that Jewish people read news too! let's try to be decent to each other!! :help:
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