Isis

[bogeyman]

"As insurgents rolled past the largest city in northern Iraq, an oil hub at the vital intersection of Syria, Iraq and Turkey, and into Tikrit, several gunmen stopped at Mosul’s central bank. An incredible amount of cash was reportedly on hand, and the group made off with 500 billion Iraqi dinars — $425 million."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/12/isis-just-stole-425-million-and-became-the-worlds-richest-terrorist-group/?tid=pm_pop

Iraq is a tribal country Saddam stated he was holding the country together with his fist and he was right.

[Maia Gabrial]

The shadow military as well shadow govts, can only exist when they stieal from us.... Same with the breakaway civilization. They couldn't do anything without the theft of our money first. They deserve failure.

[Roisin]

Yes, the situation is bad there but how can we trust the news reports on what's really going on there when the reporter may very well work in some capacity as a CIA contractor? So the question is, what's being fabricated in this report and what's being left out?
But the big question is, why wasn't ISIS contained a long time ago? Why was this allowed to happen? I think we know the answer to this one -- big oil had big issues with Iraq's current governmental structure so they financed the opposition to gain power for a take-over. Divide and conquer is the name of the game here but in the case of Iraq, to self-destruct. Then all that's left are a lot of dead bodies and oil. There's no question who's behind all of this...

[jake gittes]

I'd bet dinars to donuts ISIS is a CIA/SSG op. They usually like to kill several birds with one stone, in this case build a "case" against "Islamic" extremists and get $ at the same time. That's at least a 2-for-1. Obomb-all just stated bombing is an "option." The Zionists have a hard-on for Syria, Ukraine and Iran. Plus, isn't the goddess Isis one of those Illuminati Satanic symbols they like so much?

ZI-OP - again.

[AriG]

I'd bet dinars to donuts ISIS is a CIA/SSG op. They usually like to kill several birds with one stone, in this case build a "case" against "Islamic" extremists and get $ at the same time. That's at least a 2-for-1. Obomb-all just stated bombing is an "option." The Zionists have a hard-on for Syria, Ukraine and Iran. Plus, isn't the goddess Isis one of those Illuminati Satanic symbols they like so much?

ZI-OP - again.

This is what I was trying to suggest on my thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72163-Do-Islamic-Fundamentalist-Terrorists-use-English-as-their-first-language&p=843517&viewfull=1#post843517) Perhaps we should join up and rename the thread..

[AriG]

Same with the breakaway civilization. They couldn't do anything without the theft of our money first. They deserve failure.

This might be a bit off topic, but can you give an example of a breakaway civilization that has stolen our money? My mental query has returned a null response.

[Deega]

Hmm!, I guess nobody will be surprised about this, it's Military Rewards as we have read through multitude of Books, Journals.

But, in hindsight, what if the CIA is behind this, it would make the Americain and European Industrial Military Complex more active again, wouldn't?, money, labour, Banksters making profits, interesting don't you think? Realistically, I hope not!

[DeDukshyn]

It looks like they need a ruthless dictator to keep the country in line. Good thing the US killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis to instill "peace". Anyone remember ol' GW on the boat claiming victory after about three weeks into the Iraq war?

Let's be serious folks, the US is still very reliant on Iraqi oil, this is the only reason we are even hearing about the troubles in Iraq. Give it about 6 or 7 years when Canada begins to supply 60-70% of US their oil. You'll never hear another thing about Iraq again, no matter how bad it gets over there. The whole thing just makes me sick -- especially the part of how people still take the blatantly obvious lies at face value.

[TODD & NORA]

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[ghostrider]

Several gunmen stop and steal 425 million ??? It could have been CIA operatives , looting their cut of war money preparing for their next uprising false flag operation ...

[Cidersomerset]

Interesting articles about the WMD that did exist in Iraq in the early 1990's
when they gassed the Kurds and invaded Kuwait, The US and allies knew
that and after the first Gulf war were supposed to be destroyed by the UN.
It seems the vast chemical munitions plant has not been cleaned up properly
after all these years and has been overrun by ISIS forces, who probably could
not salvage any of the material without harming themselves. But it is still
a surprise to find it still there and could be used for propaganda value if
not military.So the headline could be more alarmist than it is in reality.
but we just don't know the truth as usual.

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Isis storms Saddam-era chemical weapons complex (that didn’t exist) in Iraq

Saturday 21st June 2014 at 05:57 By David Icke


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soohikNdbWs

21 Aug 2006

Bush says Iraq had no WMD.

f0fArr1p_LQ

4th May 2006

Ray Mc Govern who was in the CIA for 20 years asks Donald Rumsfeld why he
lied about the run up to the Iraq war.


THE TELEGRAPH.....

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02948/al-Muthanna_2948567b.jpg


‘The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical
weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of
tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid
takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the focus of Saddam’s
industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.’


Isis has shown ambitions to seize and use chemical weapons in Syria leading
experts to warn last night that the group could turn to improvised weapons to carry
out a deadly attack in Iraq.


Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a former commander of Britain’s chemical weapons
regiment, said that al-Muthanna has large stores of weaponized and bulk mustard
gas and sarin, most of which has been put beyond ready use in concrete stores.






Read more bollocks here …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/06/21/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10913275/Isis-storms-Saddam-era-chemical-weapons-complex-in-Iraq.html




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Dick Cheney Should be Rotting in a Prison Cell, Not Opinioning About Iraq

Saturday 21st June 2014 at 04:30 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cheneys-war-crimes-book-cover.jpg


‘If there’s one person who has absolutely zero business criticizing anyone for how
they’re running the country, it’s Dick Cheney.

This should be obvious to pretty everyone by now, but apparently the Wall Street
Journal didn’t get the message. This week, the paper published an editorial by
Cheney and his daughter Liz in which the former Vice President blasts
the “collapsing Obama doctrine” of foreign policy.”

Taking the rapid advance of ISIS radicals through northern Iraq as his cue, Cheney
accuses President Obama of “emboldening” America’s enemies.’

Read more: Dick Cheney Should be Rotting in a Prison Cell, Not Opinioning About Iraq

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/06/21/

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/dick-cheney-should-be-rotting-prison-cell-not-opining-about-iraq

[ghostrider]

we just can't get rid of Bush and Cheney can we ??? his Iraq war sticks like toilet paper to your shoes ... 15 years in the country two wars , two Bushes and they with the spying of the NSA and all it's tech toys they could not find a weapons complex ??? Yet they found Saddam in hole ...

[yelik]

As I understand the U.S either supplied and or launched the chemical attack on the Kurds.

[GoodETxSG]

ISIS is yet another CIA CREATION (Trained/Equipped & Provided Command & Control) GROUP (As reported A "Splinter Cell Group of their other creation AlCIAda, that was too Radical for them?!?") that is DESIGNED to be a diversion/access reason into Syria (Then tie in Iran) to bypass the previous attempts of theirs that were thwarted. Then bombs away on Damascus... This is so transparent that it isn't even fooling any other Nation, Military or its People (That do not watch American MSM) for ONE SECOND.

They want to fulfill the "Damascus In Flames" prophesy at all costs as many of the NWO believe that this prophesy is THE "Lynch Pin" that will bring THE WAR OF WARS and usher in their NWO ERA!

The more innocent civilians killed the better... These same ISIS fighters are "IN AND OUT" of all of the hot spots including the Ukraine right now. Or so I have been hearing... And will be behind some near future "Spectacular False Flag Events In The West"! IMHO

[Rocky_Shorz]

I just listened for the Iraq info from this CIA whistleblower... she was the communications person for everything sent to or received from Iraq, she worked the back channel set up by Clinton before Bush stole the election for a NeoCon war...

such a shame seeing Iraq now knowing if they went with the offer, none of this would have happened...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP5QGJvhQg0

she didn't seem to know about the drone Holograph, or remote control on the planes.

it was interesting hearing 7 of the 12 hijackers are alive and being tracked...

2 weeks before the attack, CIA knew a mini Thermo Nuclear device was going to be used...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxTB3B3XPEI

NORAD ordered to stand down by Cheney


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgcZ6TbwOok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8


ISIS just destroyed an Assyrian winged Bull

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqr8ebACMAAvEBv.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxTB3B3XPEI
As Rocky_Shorz knows well, I earlier extracted the relevant six frames from this video, showing the first plane impacting the north tower, as seen in this second video of that impact.

See my Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims. -- Post #84 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71634-Russia-and-VT-point-the-Finger-for-9-11-Did-the-Israelies-plant-nukes-in-the-towers-Nuke-cancer-in-victims.&p=839045&viewfull=1#post839045), from a month ago, for these six frames.

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Note also Susan Lindauer's 2012 above testimony that she was warned away from New York City prior to 9/11, due to the danger of radiation from thermonuclear bomb(s).

This is independent confirmation of the more recent reports from Gordon Duff of Veterans Today that nukes (albeit small) were used as the primary destructive mechanism of the WTC towers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

ISIS just attacked a border checkpoint of Iran killing several soldiers...

[Cidersomerset]

Several articles from Davids site, that are self explanatory speculating on the ISIS crisis...



The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran

Saturday 21st June 2014 at 08:16 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/iran.jpg


Global Research...



‘There’s something that doesn’t ring-true about the coverage of crisis in Iraq.
Maybe it’s the way the media reiterates the same, tedious storyline over and over
again with only the slightest changes in the narrative. For example, I was reading
an article in the Financial Times by Council on Foreign Relations president, Richard
Haass, where he says that Maliki’s military forces in Mosul “melted away”.

Interestingly, the Haass op-ed was followed by a piece by David Gardener who
used almost the very same language. He said the “army melts away.” So, I decided
to thumb through the news a bit and see how many other journalists were stung by
the “melted away” bug. And, as it happens, there were quite a few, including
Politico, NBC News, News Sentinel, Global Post, the National Interest, ABC News etc.

Now, the only way an unusual expression like that would pop up with such
frequency would be if the authors were getting their talking points from a central
authority. (which they probably do.) But the effect, of course, is the exact opposite
than what the authors intend, that is, these cookie cutter stories leave readers
scratching their heads and feeling like something fishy is going on.’

Read more: The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isis-fiasco-its-really-an-attack-on-iran/5387832


http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/06/21/
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Obama Considers Air Strikes In Syria On Terrorists He Previously Supported

Saturday 21st June 2014 at 08:14 By David Icke


http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Iraq-Jihadist-flag_2947305b.jpg


‘In a very Orwellian turn of events, the Obama administration is mulling the
prospect of air strikes in Syria, against militants that it supported less than a year
ago during the effort to oust The Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

The Hill reports that the President is weighing up a possible air offensive in Syria on
the terror camps of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“We don’t restrict potential U.S. action to a specific geographic space,” a senior
administration official said when asked whether military action could extend into
Syria.’

Read more: Obama Considers Air Strikes In Syria On Terrorists He Previously Supported

http://www.infowars.com/obama-considers-air-strikes-in-syria-on-terrorists-he-previously-supported/


http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/06/21/

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White House: ISIS Airstrikes Won’t Be Confined to Iraq

Sunday 22nd June 2014 at 09:23 By David Icke


http://news.antiwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/obama.jpg


‘White House spokesman Josh Earnest confirmed that when the Obama
Administration begins to launch air strikes against the Islamic State of Iraq and
Syria (ISIS), they won’t actually be confined to Iraq.

“The president has demonstrated a willingness to go into other countries where
necessary to protect our national and homeland security,” Earnest said, noting US
strikes in Yemen and Somalia.

Other officials had indicated President Obama wouldn’t hesitate to launch strikes in
Syria, but Earnest’s comments suggest the whole world is the battlefield once again
and that President Obama might conceivably strike anywhere he wants.’

Read more: White House: ISIS Airstrikes Won’t Be Confined to Iraq

http://news.antiwar.com/2014/06/20/white-house-isis-airstrikes-wont-be-confined-to-iraq/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Splitting up Iraq – It’s all for Israel

Sunday 22nd June 2014 at 09:22 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/11213.png


‘Barack Obama is blackmailing Nouri al-Maliki by withholding military support until
the Iraqi Prime Minister agrees to step down. In other words, we are mid-stream in
another regime change operation authored by Washington. What’s different about
this operation, is the fact that Obama is using a small army of jihadi terrorists –who
have swept to within 50 miles of Baghdad–to hold the gun to Mr. al Maliki’s head.

Not surprisingly, al Maliki has refused to cooperate which means the increasingly-
tense situation could explode into a civil war. Here’s the scoop from the Guardian in
an article aptly titled “Iraq’s Maliki: I won’t quit as condition of US strikes against
Isis militants”:’

Read more: Splitting up Iraq – It’s all for Israel

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/20/its-all-for-israel/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/


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Israeli Airstrikes Hit Nine Targets in Syria

new Monday 23rd June 2014 at 11:10 By David Icke



The Middle East is on its way to catastrophe – coldly calculated and
engineered catastrophe serving a global agenda – beyond anything
we have seen even this far.

-2KiLnhtl_E


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[Cidersomerset]

Isis threat justifies greater surveillance powers in UK, says Liam Fox

new Monday 23rd June 2014 at 11:07 By David Icke

Here we go – exactly what I said would happen in this week's videocast. Talk about predictable.

http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/foxwerrittymossad.jpg

‘Britain’s security services may need to be given greater powers of surveillance to monitor
extremists from Isis when they return home to Britain from Iraq and Syria, the former
defence secretary Liam Fox has said.

A majority of people will accept that an “ideological battle” means that the authorities will
need greater powers to intercept the communications of extremists, Fox said.

The former defence secretary, who was speaking on the Andrew Marr Show on BBC1, said
Britain should offer to put its airbases at the disposal of the US to avoid a “horrendous”
situation in Iraq as Isis forces pose a threat to Baghdad.’

Read more: Isis threat justifies greater surveillance powers in UK, says Liam Fox

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/22/surveillance-powers-liam-fox-isis

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[yelik]

The elites / cabal are just preparing us all for when they attack us. Blame the terrorist then attack Iran to start a nuclear exchange in the Middle East. Remember the Anglo Saxon mission?

[DeDukshyn]

As I understand the U.S either supplied and or launched the chemical attack on the Kurds.

Supplied the raw materials to make the chemical weapons. During the Iran / Iraq war, the US fully supported Iraq and even sold them weapons to fight Iran. Its not a secret, just conveniently forgotten. Just like the CIA creating, arming and backing al Qaeda to keep the Russians out of Afghanistan.

Create a problem where in the future, the solution gets you to the next step that you want to be at. That's how they do things. ;)

[TODD & NORA]

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[TODD & NORA]

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[TODD & NORA]

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[Cidersomerset]

Gulf War Documents: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie

new Sunday 29th June 2014 at 04:33 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/246934_its_a_trap.jpg

GLOBAL RESEARCH........



‘Journalist 1 – Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?
(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)

Journalist 2 – You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait ) but you didn’t warn
him not to. You didn’t tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the
opposite – that America was not associated with Kuwait.

Journalist 1 – You encouraged this aggression – his invasion. What were you
thinking?’

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – Obviously, I didn’t think, and nobody else did, that the
Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.

Journalist 1 – You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could
you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed , he would give up his Iran (Shatt
al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You
know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part
of their country!

Journalist 1 – American green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit
signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay – that the U.S. would not oppose
a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands
(including Bubiyan) – the territories claimed by Iraq?

(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing as a limousine door closed behind her and the
car drives off.)



Read more: Gulf War Documents: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and US
Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie


http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[TODD & NORA]

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[Cidersomerset]

Ron Paul: Military Industrial Complex Only Beneficiary From Arming Syrian Rebels

1maWNzJnP4c

Published on 29 Jun 2014
Air Date: June 27th, 2014

[cursichella1]

It disturbs me to no end to quote the National Review, but it's crucial that we see what's in the making and what our sucker public is swallowing without chewing.

This former State Department mouth covers the resurrection of Al-Qaeda-Western-visa-holding-Nationless-terrorists who are "on their way" to out-terrorize their 9/11 predecessors at a town near you - all the way through to the post-event-inevitable House hearings questioning "How could we let this (worse-than 9/11) happen again?" and concluding (pre-guilt here) because NSA's hands were tied (because of that pesky Snowden and his privacy-demanding followers).

Critical outtakes (Priceless!) are below for those with short attention spans (or 'scanners' like me). Link to entire article follows:


ISIS in the Homeland
Thousands of Islamist Syrian rebels can travel freely to the U.S.

By Andrew G. Doran

"...from Iraq to Syria, a regime of masked, sociopathic murderers reign in terror under the black flag of jihad...

This territory is not represented on any map of nation-states...capturing “arms and ammunition from the fleeing security forces” — arms and ammunition supplied by the American government...,used to impose terror on defenseless civilians...Perhaps... will be detention centers of torture and murder; perhaps...tweets proudly displaying crucifixions.(all underline emphasis original)

...these terrorists will not be satisfied... Their ultimate target will be the United States. They are coming this way. Perhaps as many as a dozen are already here – or, to be more precise, already back..."

"...Thousands of these fighters are citizens of Western countries...they can travel here without any hassle at all." An intelligence source conveyed...the NSA could not “track thousands of bad guys,” ...too numerous to track.

...evidence suggests that al-Qaeda is not “on the path to defeat” or “on the run.” It is, rather, “morphing” and “franchising,” according to the director of national intelligence, James Clapper.

...Competing objectives in Syria have caused America to lose focus on the principal enemy and principal threat: al-Qaeda and its affiliates.

If these Islamist veterans...succeed in pulling off a terrorist attack against the United States...,

One can well imagine the hearings on Capitol Hill: “We knew these people were coming. Why was more not done to stop them? Why wasn’t the intelligence community given the resources it needed to track these terrorists?...”

Idealism has often been an impediment to American foreign policy...Al-Qaeda’s affiliates...worse, its soldiers may already be in America, plotting a terrorist attack. If they are not, they will be....

More worrisome...ISIS and al-Qaeda soldiers who are now in America and countries with visa waivers..."

— Andrew G. Doran served on the U.S. National Commission for UNESCO at the U.S. Department of State.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380362/isis-homeland-andrew-g-doran

[linksplatinum]

Wow, their really beefing up this ISIS/ISIL propaganda/agenda to create a mass panic amongst the non-awakened, to try and get them to jump off of a cliff...

Don't worry though people... this is a FALSE-FLAG via CRISIS ACTORS of an ACADEMY AWARDS type of HYPE, that will definitely not be receiving any AWARDS... They will sooner or later be unmasked for the perps that they are, who was involved, why this has happened like this, who backed and funded them, etc, etc, and they'll be sitting there again with their pants down like always.

[Zionbrion]

Geez even just the name isis rings false flag/psyops to me, could a more obvious name have been picked? Another deperate attempt to start wwIII? Not that it isn't already but the coming months should be interesting!

[linksplatinum]

Just remember: problem, reaction, solution

[Rocky_Shorz]

They've been programming this for the last few years, revolution is a common word now in the US, the rich have quietly molded a political groups thoughts...

What happens when Billy Bob changes the flag on his pickup to black?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2hxladnCtYjDOnAjDuSXbUq4iOP6PseoxN__bZ_tL2YC42UYUoA

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this isn't about WWIII

more like Civil War II

they can't find anyone else to have a good war with, i told the tea party not to piss off the War mongers by goin all yeller...

[cursichella1]

Geez even just the name isis rings false flag/psyops to me, could a more obvious name have been picked? Another deperate attempt to start wwIII? Not that it isn't already but the coming months should be interesting!

LOL Right, but especially obvious since this "group" (if it even exists?) more readily goes by ISIL...but, Hey! Morphing it into ISIS is so much more Illumi-friendly!!

[thunder24]

http://www.isiscorporation.com/about/


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Is this the real ISIS?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Billy BoB already has....lol


They've been programming this for the last few years, revolution is a common word now in the US, the rich have quietly molded a political groups thoughts...

What happens when Billy Bob changes the flag on his pickup to black?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2hxladnCtYjDOnAjDuSXbUq4iOP6PseoxN__bZ_tL2YC42UYUoA

¤=[Post Update]=¤

this isn't about WWIII

more like Civil War II

they can't find anyone else to have a good war with, i told the tea party not to piss off the War mongers by goin all yeller...

Note the recent article of Gun manufactures moving down here....

http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/04/gun-manufacturers-move-south/


In fact, the companies publicly stated that moves to the gun-friendly South at least partly hinged on rampant anti-gun legislation in northeastern states where they have been long-time, tax-paying fixtures in the business community. In a Washington Times op-ed piece, Dr. Ugo Gusalli Beretta slammed the hypocrisy: “Unfortunately, as we were planning that expansion, Maryland’s governor and legislature voted in favor of new regulations that unfairly attack products we make and that our customers want. These regulations also demean our law-abiding customers, who must now be fingerprinted like criminals before they can be allowed to purchase one of our products.”
Read more at

[Yetti]

To me is quite clear the cause behind the effects we see, now in a ongoing process of spread terror and vengeance from oppressed people with their brains washed and full of anger, Why we are surprised of this? is just the common result, or better say the harvest of years of planting hate. Very bad politics toward the middle east for many years, only for satisfying some momentary political agenda, and the next in office doing the same or worst, is a collosal mess with no happy ending on the horizon.
To make a point here I would say : The problem now is too complex to be solved in one move and requires a very sharp mind capable to smell the fish before to get to the ocean , something we do not have in DC actually. THe focus must be at HOME first to fix the mess, unemployment, as number one, stop spending on wars nobody want that drive us more in debt, stop asking money to china, we must start to demand products made in usa, c'mon, we can do it !!.
The gov cannot put a halt to the china cheap **** import ruining out all the medium small industries here, but WE THE PEOPLE can say NO to the cheap Chinese goods and force the market on our favor using a boycott to all product china made with slavery like workforce.

[Yetti]

They need more excuses to continue the war and the war machine running, is too obvious to me, they will place all kind of false flag scenarios : terrorist attacks. economic down crashes .Middle east in the edge of ww3 . Alien attacks, Meteories, they will use HAARP to create havoc everywhere, . The end justify the means.
They are criminals .

[Rocky_Shorz]

i'm hammering the Israel trolls on twitter...

i was at Costco, standing waiting for a sample of the turkey burger and asked what do you think of whats going on in #Israel...

this old Jewish man cringed, then said, "it's like seeing a rabbi you always looked up to, in a bar, drunk with a hooker in his lap..."

Net&Yahoo, you incited this violence, the blood is on your hands...

this is about Palestine demanding freedom, Happy independence Day!!!"

Israel told Palestine punishment is coming even if they have to slaughter 3 jews to prove how evil Hamas is...

they arrested them June 14th, they searched arrested and destroyed homes for weeks after...

Israel, you have been weighed, judged and found unworthy in the book of life, being alive you can still change...

[wnlight]

I suppose that we all know that ISIS is a CIA psy-op, because it so well fits their MO and their motivations. I once worked in close association with those folks and know their capabilities and where their heads are. It's a shame that they do not care hurting the muslims in Iraq and Syria.

About the goal: "it's crucial that we see what's in the making and what our sucker public is swallowing", that is beyond my ability. I get upset and stop reading/listening.

[cursichella1]

I suppose that we all know that ISIS is a CIA psy-op, because it so well fits their MO and their motivations. I once worked in close association with those folks and know their capabilities and where their heads are. It's a shame that they do not care hurting the muslims in Iraq and Syria.

About the goal: "it's crucial that we see what's in the making and what our sucker public is swallowing", that is beyond my ability. I get upset and stop reading/listening.

Understandable. Having lived it, you already "get it", so really don't need to read it. I wish I didn't have to read or quote it, either, but I think it's important to and here's why.

When I say 'crucial that we see it', I am referring to everyone because even some of us that do get it have a tendency to get distracted or forget when it's inconvenient (Happy 4th! Go USA!) or maybe push the thought aside because we're just numb.

So many people don't get it, people close to us, family, friends, whoever...it is a great, blatant example of media manipulation, precog programming, propaganda (kind of sloppy on their part IMO) and creepy evil - all rolled into one, a very convincing tool that we can use, point to, when trying to enlighten others who still don't get it.

[Rocky_Shorz]

today troops of Israel have surrounded Gaza...

24 hours #Egypt to negotiate a cease fire...

Gaza extremist groups have swore allegiance to iSIS

now today, info on the teen who wasn't killed before burning, they burned him alive, poured gas down his throat before lighting...

http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.602712.1404342098!/image/3967036337.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_300x390/3967036337.jpg


the torch was just tossed on the mountain of Gun Powder Kegs...



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[Sirius White]

Mercenaries.....

[jackovesk]

Mmm - Nice watch for the desolate underground movement leader...:pound:

‘Caliph Ibrahim’, or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to his enemies, gave his first public sermon at the weekend — with a $6500 Omega Watch

July 07, 2014

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HE’S brutal. He’s bold. He’s the self-styled “pious & humble” Caliph for all of Islam. He’s also wearing a $6500 watch ...

The highly secretive ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (his followers have now been ordered to refer to him only as Caliph Ibrahim) made a bold public appearance at the weekend.

A video of the event shows a portly man clad in a long black robe and a black turban with a long greying beard addressing worshippers at weekly prayers at Al-Nur mosque in central Mosul.

The footage, incidentally, was in High Definition video.

Presenting himself as Islam’s new supreme leader, he declared in the 20-minute sermon: “I am the leader who presides over you, though I am not the best of you, so if you see that I am right, assist me. If you see that I am wrong, advise me and put me on the right track, and obey me as long as I obey God in you.”

But eagle-eyed critics of the ISIS leader spotted the gleam of silver peeking out from beneath the deep black sleeve of his right arm.

Humble opulence ... “Caliph Ibrahim” has sparked a social media storm over the appropriateness of his apparel. Source: Supplied

It was a bulky, stylish wristwatch with a dark face.

Was it a Rolex? Or does a $6500 Omega watch fit his newly humble profile?

Zooming in on the high quality propaganda piece revealed the outline of the device.

Some have since identified it as being an Omega seamaster Aqua Terra. A grand name with a grand price attached.

So is it a style — and price — suited to a Caliph?

It’s started a social media storm.

OF KNIGHTS AND CALIPHS: What is a “Caliphate”, and what does it mean?

”Caliph Ibrahim’’ is the name Baghdadi took when the group declared on a “caliphate,’’ a pan-Islamic state last seen in Ottoman times in which the leader is both political and religious.

In a “biography” released by his organisation today, his prior reluctance to appear before the cameras was explained as being for security reasons.

“The absence of an audio or video recording for Dr. Abu Dua isn’t because of his lack of rhetoric or weak language or something like that, this is not true because the man is has an eloquent speech and strong language,” it reads.

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On the podium ... Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, aka Caliph Ibrahim, addressing Muslim worshippers at a mosque in the militant-held northern Iraqi city of Mosul. Source: AFP

Baghdadi is believed to have been born in the Iraqi city of Samarra in 1971, and joined the insurgency against the US military following the 2003 invasion that ousted dictator Saddam Hussein.

He spent time in a US military prison and eventually took over leadership of a group, then affiliated with al-Qaeda and known as the Islamic State of Iraq, in 2010.

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At the time, the group was believed to be on the ropes but Baghdadi led it back to prominence.

Last year, the organisation expanded into Syria, becoming a major player in the war to oust President Bashar al-Assad.

Baghdadi subsequently cut all ties to al-Qaeda and his influence now rivals that of that group’s global chief, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

IS is known for its brutality and executing and crucifying opponents. Photographs also emerged on Saturday showing its militants demolishing Sunni and Shi’ite mosques and shrines in Mosul and surrounding Nineveh province.

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Holy leader ... An image grab taken from a propaganda video released by al-Furqan Media allegedly shows the leader of the Islamic State (IS) jihadist group, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, aka Caliph Ibrahim. Source: AFP

http://www.news.com.au/world/caliph-ibrahim-or-abu-bakr-albaghdadi-to-his-enemies-gave-his-first-public-sermon-at-the-weekend-with-a-6500-omega-watch/story-fndir2ev-1226980095440

PS - The CIA/NATO - Al Qaeda - ISIS/ISIL ((Trickery)) reminds me of the Abbott & Costello skit 'Who's on 1st' and wouldn't the comedic pair have an absolute field day on this skit...:pound:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng



Who's on 1st?
What's on 2nd &
I don't know is on 3rd


All batting on the (SAME TEAM) the Abbott & Costello skit should read...



CIA/NATO is on 1st
Al Qaeda's on 2nd &
ISIS/ISIL is on 3rd


In Summary;

The CIA trained the Mujahardin in the 1970s to oppose the Russian's in Afghanistan, which morphed into the CIA/NATO sponsored Al Qaeda which has now morphed into ISIS/ISIL...:faint:

What a FKin JOKE..!

Still can't get over that watch...

WHICH IS...

Probably the only thing 'GENUINE' on their Fearless Child Killing MURDEREROUS Leader (Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi)...

PSS - Not really that hard to (Connect..The..Dots) is it...

All passed off as ((TERRORISM - TERRORISM - TERRORISM)) Be ((AFRAID - VERY AFRAID))..!

PSSS - News just in...


"The LIES & DECIEPT are just not working for you anymore NWO...!!!

PSSSS - Fargin-Hell next we'll see these Fukers with Corporate Sponsorship's all over their Black uniforms..!

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[161803398]

Important interview with a man who was present at the U.S. creation of Al Qaeda when it and the U.S. fought the Soviets in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda leaders left or were killed when the ISIS was incorporated into the group. ISIS is described as the "claws" of American Colonialism presently funded by the Obama regime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NEuJ5v3AbJg

[Camilo]

http://youtu.be/HK5ZAapfylQ


Published on 06/26/2014

In this video Luke Rudkowski talks to David Icke about his predictions with ISIS and the possible start of WWIII. David breaks down many esoteric historical writings and the current political situation that can lead to bringing in other countries to war.

[MorningFox]

I've always had a lot of respect for David Icke and have even been to see one of his 6 hour talks.

However, as I evolve myself, I'm beginning to feel that all he is doing now is spreading fear and negativity. Talk of WWIII is not the talk of an evolved man.

I give him credit for initially opening the minds of many many people and for that I thank him, but I think he is on the wrong path with his constant paranoid fear mongering approach.

Let me update this and say that it's not for me to judge someone else's path, i guess its just that he doesn't resonate with me as much anymore. Though I respect him a lot.

[Omni]

One point I can expound on that iske related to is I did notice you can always tell a war is in the works when in the American media, lots of media suddenly appears to demonize a country. I noticed it about Saddam before we invaded there... Their propaganda machine is aimed at imbeciles so one can see through it rather easy at times if you get the right thoughts.

[Zaya]

One point I can expound on that iske related to is I did notice you can always tell a war is in the works when in the American media, lots of media suddenly appears to demonize a country. I noticed it about Saddam before we invaded there... Their propaganda machine is aimed at imbeciles so one can see through it rather easy at times if you get the right thoughts.

VERY true point. That's because they use the media to attempt to persuade us that war is the right choice.

Technically, legally, we do not HAVE to agree. But it helps.

[spizella]

Danger?
http://morichesdaily.com/2014/07/isis-terrorist-steal-88-pounds-nuclear-materials-iraq/

[Wind]

VERY true point. That's because they use the media to attempt to persuade us that war is the right choice.

Technically, legally, we do not HAVE to agree. But it helps.

And then all the conspirators have to do is just to bomb some big city again and everyone will be crying for vengeance and the lies of the leaders will be accepted as truth. If only the masses were awake enough to see through the matrix... One day they will.

[Hervé]

Just in case someone wondered why "Gaza" was allowed to be made obvious... distracting attention from over-there:

French Report ISIL Leader Mossad Agent (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/)


Simon Elliot, aka Al-Baghdadi, son of Jewish parents, Mossad agent


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—
In French (http://croah.fr/corbeau-dechaine/simon-elliot-alias-al-baghdadi-de-pere-et-mere-juifs-et-agent-du-mossad/)

—
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called ”Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative.

Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent.

We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and whose parents are both Jews:

The real name of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is “Simon Elliott.”

The so-called “Elliot” was recruited by the Israeli Mossad and was trained in espionage and psychological warfare against Arab and Islamic societies.

This information was attributed to Edward Snowden and published by newspapers and other Web sites: the head of the “Islamic State” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, has cooperated with the U.S. Secret Service, British and Israel to create an organization capable of attracting terrorist extremists from around the world.

Source: Radio ajyal.com


Another source corroborates this statement, the site Egy-press:

With photo support, an Iranian media discovers the true identity of the Emir Daash, a trained Zionist agent.

Iranian intelligence discovered the true and full identity of the Emir Daash, which is known under the name Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi; his real name is Elliot Shimon. His Mossad's role: secret agent in the Zionist espionage. His false name: Ibrahim ibn Awad ibn Ibrahim Al Al Badri Arradoui Hoseini.

The plan: get into the military and civilian heart of the countries that are declared as a threat to Israel in order to destroy them and, thereafter, to facilitate the takeover by the Zionist state of the entire Middle East area in order to establish Greater Israel.


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Voici les frontières du projet sioniste, le « Grand Israël », ou « Eretz Israël » pour les intimes.


Here are the borders of the Zionist project, the “Greater Israel” or “Eretz Israel” for short.


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La carte du Grand Israël, également sur la monnaie israélienne, le shekel.



These facts confirm the ones that came out a few days ago, corroborating that the Caliph Rolex is sent to Israel to sow chaos in neighboring countries around Zionist entity. Please note that EIIL announced it a few days ago that they now want to take on the “barbarians Jews”, a reference to the Zionists besieging Gaza.

Handy! Having devastated Israel's neighborhood, it will now allow the Americans and the Israelis to point the fingers at them as bloody terrorists to be shot at real fast in order to defend the Zionist state, while the same let them proliferate and act with impunity for over two months now. A project they probably prepared since the famous Arab Spring with the destabilization of Iraq, Sudan, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria and Mali (among others). Clever!

Listen and listen again Bernard-Henri Lévy (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68676-Current-situation-in-Ukraine-a-warning.&p=800406&viewfull=1#post800406) on these so-called Arab Springs:


YouTube - Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xFtMr1AnJw)


After gathering the fanatics of the world in one place, an actual army of the devil is formed, filled with bloodthirsty murderers without mercy for their victims, they murder with a vengeance and in cold blood, filming their atrocities and relaying on social networks.

PS: I edited some of the giggle-translate stuff.

[Hervé]

Iraq's largest Christian town abandoned as Isis advance continues
(http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/isis-offensive-iraq-christian-exodus)
UN officials say an estimated 200,000 new refugees are seeking sanctuary in the Kurdish north from Islamic extremists



Martin Chulov (http://www.theguardian.com/profile/martin-chulov)theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/), Thursday 7 August 2014 16.58 BST



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Thousands of Yazidi and Christian people flee to Erbil after the latest wave of Isis advances.
Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images


Iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/world/iraq)'s largest Christian city was all but abandoned on Thursday as the jihadist advance through minority communities in the country's north-west rampaged towards the Kurdish stronghold of Erbil.

UN officials said an estimated 200,000 new refugees were seeking sanctuary in the Kurdish north from Islamic extremists who had pursued them since the weekend. The city of Qaraqosh, south-east of Mosul, home to around 50,000 Christians was the latest to fall, with most residents fleeing before dawn as convoys of extremists drew near.

Other Christian towns near Mosul, including Tel Askof, Tel Keif and Qaramless have also largely been emptied. Those who remained behind have reportedly been given the same stark choice given to other minorities, including Yazidis: flee, convert to Islam, or be killed.

Christians, Yazidis and Turkmen have been at the frontlines of Iraq's war with the Islamic State (Isis (http://www.theguardian.com/world/isis)) ever since the jihadist group stormed into Mosul and Tikrit and mid-June. The Iraqi army capitulated within hours, with at least 60,000 officers and soldiers fleeing on the first day of the assault alone.

Ever since, the jihadists have continued to make advances, while Iraqi troops have concentrated on defending Baghdad and the Shia south, leaving the defence of minorities in the north to the Kurdish peshmurga.

However, even the much vaunted Kurdish forces were no match for the heavy weapons wielded by the jihadists as they advanced in recent days. Peshmurga officers ordered troops to withdraw to areas administered by the Kurdish regional government – a clear sign of priorities and of where the battle lines are being drawn.
Without any protection, Yazidis, Christians and Turkmen are being uprooted from communities they have lived in for millennia and the geo-social fabric of Iraq is being rapidly shredded.

While those who have managed to flee the Christian areas have so far had a relatively safe passage to Erbil, tens of thousands of Yazidis remain besieged on a mountain top near Sinjar (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat), with little food or water.

The UN said on Thursday it was able to get some supplies overland to the stranded hordes – avoiding Isis fighters who have surrounded most of Mount Sinjar. Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced that Turkish helicopters had dropped food and water on the mountain top. Iraqi helicopters have also made food drops, but stranded Yazidis say they do not have enough to survive.

The Chaldean archbishop of Kirkuk, Joseph Thomas, described the situation in northern Iraq as "catastrophic, a crisis beyond imagination". He demanded urgent intervention to save what remained of the area's Christian heritage.

Kurdish officials on Thursday demanded more help in catering for refugees. The Kurdish administered areas have seen staggering numbers cross their notional border since the original Isis onslaught two months ago. In the first week alone, some 500,000 people are thought to have fled towards Erbil.

The capital of the Kurdish north is already home to a new Chaldean Christian community, which fled Baghdad in the wake of an Isis-led massacre inside a cathedral in October 2010. Many fleeing Christians have headed for the Ainkawa neighbourhood, which is home to Baghdad's Christian exiles.

The past 11 years of war and insurrection since the US invasion have led to most of Iraq's Christians fleeing. Numbers have plummeted starkly from an estimated one million before 2003 to around 150,000 now. A large number of those who remain are now displaced.

Miriam Dagher, 53, from Qaraqosh, said churches in the city had already been torched and religious insignia smashed. "We stayed as long as we could," she said. "But nothing could save us. This is the end of our community."


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Isis has threatened to redraw the unitary borders that were carved out of the ruins of the Ottoman empire. The group's rampant insurgency and the inability of state actors to stop it has rendered the frontier between Iraq and Syria evermore irrelevant.

In the absence of central government authority, Shia militias are taking dominant roles, amplifying sectarian enmity between Islam's two most dominant sects.

Iraq's beleaguered prime minister, Nour al-Maliki, no longer has the authority to unite the country's disparate sects. Maliki, a Shia Muslim, had disenfranchised much of the country's Sunni community over the past three years, some of whom have turned to Isis as a means of reasserting themselves.

After digging in for the past two months, Maliki now faces a desperate battle to form a government, with his key backer Iran understood to have told him that it no longer supports his bid to lead the country for a third term.

Kurdish leader, Massoud Barazani, has said he is moving towards holding a referendum that could pave the way for an independence bid, a move that could spell the end of Iraq, and unsettle surrounding countries, including Syria, Turkey and Iran.

[Hervé]

Wiping Out the Christians of Syria and Iraq to Remap the Middle East: Prerequisite to a Clash of Civilizations?
(http://www.globalresearch.ca/wiping-out-the-christians-of-syria-and-iraq-to-remap-the-mid-east-prerequisite-to-a-clash-of-civilizations/5394075)
PART I

By Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/mahdi-darius-nazemroaya), Global Research, July 30, 2014
Strategic Culture Foundation (http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/mahdi-darius-nazemroaya.html?p=2&s=date&op=10) 30 July 2014



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Historically, the Levant is the birthplace of Christianity and the oldest Christian communities have lived in it and the entire Fertile Crescent since the start of Christian history. Early Christians called themselves followers or people of «the Way» before they adopted the term Christian; in Arabic their antiquated name would be «Ahl Al-Deen». [1] Traces of this original name are also available in the New Testament of the Bible and can be read in John 14:5-7, Acts 9:1-2, Acts 24:4 and 14. From the Fertile Crescent these Christian communities spread across Africa, Asia, and Europe. Since that time the ancient communities of Christians, many of which still use the Syriac dialects of Aramaic in their churches, have been an integral and important part of the social fabrics of the pluralistic societies of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, and Iran. Nevertheless, the Christians of the Levant and Iraq are now in the cross-hairs.

Deceit and mischief has been at play. It is no coincidence that Egyptian Christians were attacked at the same time as the South Sudan Referendum, which was supposed to signal a split between the Muslims in Khartoum and the Christians and animists in Juba. Nor is it an accident that Iraq’s Christians, one of the oldest Christian communities in the world, began to face a modern exodus, leaving their homes and ancestral homeland in Iraq in 2003. Mysterious groups targeted both them and Palestinian refugees…

Coinciding with the exodus of Iraqi Christians, which occurred under the watchful eyes of US and British military forces, the neighborhoods in Baghdad became sectarian as Shiite Muslims and Sunni Muslims were forced by violence and death squads to form sectarian enclaves. This is all tied to a US and Israeli project of redrawing the map.

The Christian communities of the Levant and Iraq have long distrusted the US government for its support of Israel, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and fanatical militants with anti-Christian leanings. Lebanon’s Christians have also been weary of US support for Israeli expansion and ideas about resettling Palestinians into Lebanon. There is also a widely held belief that the US and Israel have been involved in a policy to remove or «purge» the Christians from Iraq and the Levant in some type of Zionist-linked resettlement plan. Since the US-supported anti-government fighters started targeting Christian Syrians, there has been renewed talk about a Christian exodus in the Middle East centering on Washington’s war on Syria.

Silencing the Ancient Church Bells of Sham and Shinar
Christian Arabs and both the Assyrian and Armenian ethnic communities, which are overwhelming composed of Christians, inside Lebanon and Syria have been in the crosshairs. From Homs and Maaloula to Kessab, Syria’s Christians have been under siege. Various ecclesiastic councils or synods have expressed concerns as have Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew I, the Vatican or Holy See, Russian Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow Cyril (Kirill) I, Armenian Apostolic Catholicos Aram I, the Maronite Greek Catholic Patriarchate in Lebanon, Jerusalemite Greek Orthodox Archbishop Theodosios (Attallah) Hanna of Sebastia, the Anglican See of Canterbury, Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, Lebanese President Michel Suleiman, the Free Patriotic Movement of Lebanon’s Michel Aoun, the World Council of Churches, and various interfaith bodies. Even US celebrities Cherilyn Sarkisian (Cher) and Kimberly Kardashian joined the chorus and voiced their concerns about Syria’s Christians after the Turkish government perfidiously helped Al-Nusra overrun the predominately Armenian town of Kessab in Lattakia Governate on March 24, 2014. [2]

Inside Syria, Maronite Greek Catholic Archbishop of Damascus Samir Nassar, Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch Gregory III Laham, Antiochian Greek Orthodox Patriarch Ignatius IV, and Syriac Orthodox Patriarch Ignatius Zakka I Iwas have all condemned the violence. The leaders of Syria’s other faiths, Druze Sheikh Al-Aql Hamoud Hennawi, Sunni Grand Mufti Ahmed Badreddin, and Ashari Imam Mohammed Said Ramadan, have joined the Christian leaders in their calls for peace and condemnations of Washington’s war on Syria. These leaders have risked their lives and the lives of their loved ones by taking these positions. Sheikh Ramadan, who was also an ethnic Kurd, was murdered while he was teaching in a mosque for his backing of the Syrian government on March 21, 2013. Patriarch Ignatius IV had his brother kidnapped in Aleppo whereas Grand Mufti Hassoun had his twenty-two year-old son murdered on his way to university in Idlib. Despite the threats, all these figures have spoken against the insurgency as a cancerous threat to coexistence in Syrian society and the broader region. Melkite Patriarch Gregory III Laham has very vocally said that his country is being attacked by bandits and terrorists under the fiction of a revolution that seek to destroy the Christians and all Syria. [3]

The Christian communities of Syria, which constitute at least 10% of the Syrian population, have been systematically targeted; their churches have been attached and desecrated; their priests, monks, and nuns murdered; and generally discriminated against by the anti-government forces that the US, UK, France, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and their allies support. The objectives of establishing this exodus are reflected by the anti-government chants: «Alawites to the ground and Christians to Lebanon!» What this chant means is that Syria is no longer a place where either Alawis or Christians can live.

America’s Foot Soldiers and the Rape of Christians in Syria and Iraq
Fides News Agency, the official news agency of the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church, has reported that the so-called religious leaders of the anti-government fighters declared it lawful for the anti-government fighters to rape «any non-Sunni Syrian woman» that they desired; the declarations of these corrupt pastors have been used to justify the rape, humiliation, torture, and murder of women and girls in towns and territory captured by groups like the so-called Free Syrian Army, Jabhat Al-Nusra, and the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant/Al-Dawlah Al-Islamiyah fi Al-Iraq wa Al-Sham (ISIL/DAISH). [4]

Here is the account given to the Fides News Agency by two priests about what was done to one fifteen year-old Syrian Christian girl in Homs Governate after the anti-government fighters took control of it:
The commander of the battalion «Jabhat al-Nusra» in Qusair took Mariam, married and raped her. Then he repudiated her. The next day the young woman was forced to marry another Islamic militant. He also raped her and then repudiated her. The same trend was repeated for 15 days, and Mariam was raped by 15 different men. This psychologically destabilized her and made her insane. Mariam, became mentally unstable and was eventually killed. These atrocities are not told by any «International Commission» say to Fides two Greek-Catholic priests, Fr. Issam and Fr. Elias who have just returned to town. [5]
These same US-supported multinational insurgent groups have begun to do this to Iraqi Christians too. «On June 12, [2014,] only two day after capturing Mosul and other territories in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria issued a decree ordering the people to send their unmarried women to ‘jihad by sex’» and made a decree ordering that unmarried women sexually be offered to their fighters for fornication. [6] The following account, which was confirmed by the Iraqi High Commission for Human Rights and reported by the Assyrian International News Agency, deals with Mosul after its takeover by the insurrectionary forces entering Iraq from Syria on June 25, 2014:
A Christian father who watched his wife and daughter get brutally raped by members of the militant group, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) because he couldn’t pay them a poll tax in Mosul, Iraq, killed himself under the weight of the trauma this past weekend. [7]
The molestation and rape of Christian women and girls as sex objects has not been limited to Christians alone. Syrian women and girls, regardless of their faiths, that have been captured by the anti-government forces are being raped and molested. Muslims, Christians, and Druze are all equally at risk. These perverted acts are being encouraged by corrupt clerics issuing legal opinions and decrees (fatwas) that support rape and womanizing.

These twisted legal opinions and decrees being issued include calls for foreign women to become concubines to the anti-government fighters in Syria in what is disgracefully called a «sexual holy struggle» (jihad al-nikah). The Tunisian government was even prompted to react in mid-2013 to these calls for sexual offering, because they were exploiting young Tunisian girls. [8] Tunisian Minister of Religious Affairs Noureddine Al-Khadimi condemned the corrupt and ignorant clerics and individuals behind the calls, insisting that they had nothing to do with Muslim teachings:
The minister’s statements came after the spread of an anonymous «sexual jihad» fatwa on the Internet calling on young women to support opposition fighters in Syria by providing sexual services. According to media reports and mujahideen who returned to Tunisia after participating in jihad in Syria, 13 Tunisian girls headed to the battlefield in response to the «sexual jihad» fatwa. [9]
«After the sexual liaisons they have in the name of ‘jihad al-nikah’ — (sexual holy war, in Arabic) — [these girls] come home pregnant», Tunisian Interior Minister Lotfi bin Jeddou testified to Tunisian legislators months after Al-Khadimi’s condemnations, explaining that the misguided girls could have over a hundred partners. [10]

Targeting Bishops, Priests, Monks, and Nuns: Besieging the People of «The Way»
Since the start of the fighting, Christian spiritual figures have been targeted in one way or another. There are the cases of Greek Orthodox Archbishop Sayedna Paul (Boulos) Yazigi and Syriac Orthodox Metropolitan Mar Gregorios John Abraham (Yohanna Ibrahim), which were kidnapped near the Turkish border, on April 22, 2013. Their driver, a Christian priest himself, was killed instantly for protecting the two Christian metropolitans by refusing to let them leave their car. A fourth person in the car, Fouad Eliya, managed to remain free (and explain what happened). [11]

The Turkish government is directly involved in the kidnapping of the two Orthodox Christian bishops. The Turkish newswire Dogan News Agency (Dogan Haber Ajansı) reported on July 23, 2013 that the murders or, using the report’s words, «assassins» of the two Syrian bishops were arrested in Konya. [12] The arrest happened to be of anti-Russian fighters from the North Caucasus, which corresponded to Foud Eliya’s account that Boulos Yazigi and Yohanna Ibrahim were taken by North Caucasian militants dressed like Taliban fighters from Afghanistan. [13]

Grand Mufti Hassoun revealed that Turkish-trained Chechen fighters were dispatched by Ankara to kidnap Sayedna Boulos Yazigi and Mar Gregorios, because of two important reasons. According to Sheikh Hassoun, the first reason is that Metropolitan Gregorios was asked by Syriac Orthodox Patriarch Ignatius Zakka I Iwas to head a church committee to begin the process of reclaiming the vast holdings of the Syriac Orthodox Church that the Turkish government had confiscated during its persecution of Syriac Orthodox Christians. [14]

In a meeting between Prime Minister Erdogan and Mar Gregorios, the Turkish government asked that the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch establish a eparchy (an ecclesiastical province or administrative division of the church with a metropolitan) in Turkey and to even relocate its patriarchate from Damascus to Hatay (Antioch), but Gregorios Yohanna Ibrahim refused and said that the patriarchate of the Syriac Orthodox Church will never change locations, that Syriac Orthodox Christians recognized the Levant as one unified land, and that a bishop would be assigned to Turkey when the Syriac Orthodox Church’s properties were returned by the Turkish government, which angered Turkish officials. [15] The other reason that the Orthodox Christian cleric was targeted was that he was reconciling anti-government fighters peacefully with the Syrian government in Aleppo Governate, which upset Turkey and its allies. [16]

Other cases include those of: Father (Abouna) Fadi Jamal Haddad, a Antiochian Greek Orthodox priest acting as a mediator in Qatana during the fighting, who was tortured and shot in the head after he tried to mediate the release of a doctor that was being ransomed for money; Father (Abouna) Francois Al-Mourad, a Catholic priest of the Franciscan Order, who was shot for preventing fellow Christians and Syrians from being hurt by the anti-government fighters; and Father Frans van der Lugt, a Dutch priest of the Jesuit Order working in Homs. When Abouna Fadi went to pay the insurgents for the doctor they had abducted, they kidnapped him too; they would later kill the Christian priests and leave him on the side of the highway, «horribly tortured and [with] his eyes gouged out», where his body would be found on September 25, 2012. [17]

According to the Franciscan Order’s representatives in Syria, the insurgents «broke into the convent, looted it and destroyed everything. When Fr. Franҫois tried to defend the nuns and other people, the gunmen shot him dead» on June 23, 2013. [18]

The insurgents murdered Father Frans van der Lugt on April 7, 2014.This an account of the circumstances behind his murder:
Wael Salibi, 26, recalled how when the Christian area in Homs was taken over by rebels, 66,000 of the faithful «left their home, and just few of them stayed there. He was the only priest, he stayed in his church.»
«Just months before he died, he said ‘I can’t leave my people, I can’t leave my church, I am director of this church, how can I leave them?’» Salibi told CNA on April 11.

Salibi, who hails from the now-ravished city of Homs, grew up as a close friend and pupil of Fr. Frans, who was brutally killed on April 7. Days before his 76th birthday, an unknown gunman entered his church, beat him and shot him in the head. [19]
In Hasakah (Hasce) many of the Christian Syrians fled, but almost 30,000 stayed as internal refugees. The Syrian Christians who belonged to the Chaldean Catholic Church, Syriac Orthodox Church, Syriac Catholic Church, Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Church, and the Armenian Catholic Church collectively asked the world for help and to put an end to the fighting, in an appeal that went unheard, in late-2012; they have suffered from persecution, lawlessness, kidnappings, ransoms, and murder. One Christian from the area told Fides News Agency that Al-Nusra was targeting «all young people who were born between 1990 and 1992. They look for them, accuse them of being soldiers for the national service and kill them cold-bloodedly. They want to terrorize young people to prevent them from enlisting.» [20]

Another example of the assault on the Christian community is Al-Nusra’s assault on the town of Maaloula. Maaloula is one of a few villages maintaining an old dialect of Aramaic, known as the language of Jesus of Nazareth. Many Christian structures and historic sites fill the Syrian town, but the Melkite Greek Catholic Saint Sergius (Mar Sarkis) Monastery and Antiochian Greek Orthodox Saint Thecla (Mar Taqla) Monastery standout. The town became the scene of fighting between Al-Nusra and the Syrian Arab Army and switched hands between the insurgents and Syrian government four times between late-2013 and mid-2014.

Many of Maaloula’s residents, both Christian and Muslim alike, became trapped in their homes and local buildings, including forty Greek Orthodox Christian nuns and the orphans they were looking after, which sparked panic in the Christian populations of Syria and Lebanon. Hence the strong backing of Bashar Al-Assad’s government by all of Syria’s minorities and the expression of these type of sentiments were nearly universal among Christian Syrians: «‘They’re coming after us,’ [said] Odette Abu Zakham, a 65-year-old woman in the congregation who lives in the nearby historic Christian district of Bab Touma. ‘All they do is massacre people, all they know is killing.’» [21] Not only were the nuns held hostage by Al-Nusra, but the anti-government fighters desecrated absolutely all of Maaloula’s shrines and Christian buildings, stole its historic artifacts to sell in the black market, and scattered the partially Aramaic-speaking population of the town. Eyewitnesses who escaped Maaloula give this account below:
[The insurgents] tried to change the religious and architectural-historical look of the ancient Christian town entirely: completely destroying some churches, the militants brought down all bells from other ones. The fate of two other world-famous monuments of Ma’loula was no less tragic: extremists blew up the statue of Christ the Savior, which had stood at the entrance of St. Thecla Convent, as well as the statue of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, which had stood close to the Safir hotel, the latter of which served as the main shelter for Takfirists for many months. [22]
Easter, in 2014 was a special time for Maaloula. Around Easter, the Syrian government regained the town. Maaloula was finally secured and residents were returning. «The display of hatred was clear — the houses are totally destroyed, the whole village was destroyed. I can’t describe the amount of damage to the village», a returning resident by the name of Lorain told the press about what the insurgents did. [23] President Al-Assad visited too. Al-Assad himself came to visit it as a sign of the Syrian government’s commitment to its entire population regardless of their faith or ethnicity. Both the Western rite and Eastern rite Christian celebrations of Easter, respectively using the Gregorian and Julian calendars, fell on the same date too: April 20, 2014.

[I](To be continued)

NOTES
[1] The term Christian is akin to the term Mohammedian, which was once used to describe Muslims. It was a name originally used as a derogatory term by non-Christians to identify the followers of Jesus of Nazareth and «the Way» by them, but would eventually be accepted and adopted by many of the Christians; the Arabic word «deen» means «way» and not religion as it is commonly substituted for.

[2] Pinar Tremblay, «Armenian-Americans blame Turkey for Kassab invasion, Al-Monitor, April 3, 2014.

[3] «Syria has been reduced to banditry and anarchy, says Gregory III Laham», Vatican Insider, May 4, 2012.

[4] «13 Syrian Christian Women Raped and Killed by Islamists» Pravoslavie, April 5, 2013; «Rape and atrocities on a young Christian in Qusair», Fides News Agency, July 2, 2013; Stoyan Zaimov, «Syrian Christian Mother Reveals Stories of Rape, Church Attacks in Streets of Damascus», Christian Post, October 17, 2013; Jamie Dettmer, «Syria’s Christians Flee Kidnappings, Rape, Executions», Daily Beast, November 19, 2013.

[5] «Rape and atrocities», Fides, op. cit.

[6] «ISIS in Mosul Orders Unmarried Women to ‘Jihad By Sex,’» Assyrian International News Agency, June 21, 2014.

[7] Leonardo Blair, «Christian Father Commits Suicide After ISIS Members Rape Wife and Daughter in Front of Him Because He Couldn’t Pay Poll Tax», Christian Post, June 25, 2014.

[8] Mohammed Yassin Al-Jalassi, «Tunisians Raise Alarm on Fatwa Encouraging ‘Sexual Jihad,’» Al-Monitor, March 27, 2013.

[9] Ibid.

[10] «Sex Jihad raging in Syria, claims minister», Agence France-Presse, September 20, 2013.

[11] Dikran Ego, «Turkey’s Role in the Kidnapping of the Syrian Bishops», Assyrian International News Agency, February 1, 2012.

[12] Ismail Akkaya, «Suriyeli metropolitlerin katil zanlıları Konya’da yakalandı» [«Syrian metropolitan’s alleged assassins were caught in Konya»], Dogan Haber Ajansı, July 23, 2013.

[13] Dikran Ego, «Turkey’s Role in Kidnapping», AINA, op. cit.

[14] Grand Mufti Hassoun explains this in a video released by the Stockholm-based Syriac Foundation on May 4, 2014.

[15] Ibid.

[16] Ibid.

[17] «Fr. Fadi Jamil Haddad: Priest, Trusted By All, Martyred in Syria», Pravmir.com, October 28, 2012: .

[18] «Custos of the Holy Land: Fr Franҫois Mourad killed by Islamist insurgents in al-Ghassaniyah», AsiaNews.it, June 25, 2013: .

[19] Elise Harris, «‘I can’t leave my people’: Priest killed in Syria hailed as martyr», Catholic News Agency, April 15, 2014.

[20] «Appeal from the people of Mesopotamia, left to themselves», Fides News Agency, January 17, 2013.

[21] Lee Keath, «Seizure of nuns stokes Syrian Christian fears», Associated Press, December 8, 2013.

[22] «All Shrines of Ma’loula Either Destroyed or Desecrated», Pravoslavie, January 13, 2014.

[23] Firas Makdesi, «Syria’s Assad pays Easter visit to recaptured Christian town», Reuters, April 20, 2014.

[Revere]

Malaki is far worse then the quoted article (below) conveys! He is and has been just another devil for the people in the country to deal with. Most of us have it so much better then we have any idea of in our individual situations. Pray for these poor people. Being caught between Malaki and now Isis... wow... You might as well go out fighting!

Malaki is on his way out though. I hope these poor people do not end up with the "new boss same as the old boss" and get "fooled again" ...yes I am quoting the WHO. They should have a new Prime Minister very soon. Then the US may(?) help with ISIS. But, there are SO many Truths, falshoods and hidden agendas everywhere!

PEACE TO ALL,
Revere

Iraq's beleaguered prime minister, Nour al-Maliki, no longer has the authority to unite the country's disparate sects. Maliki, a Shia Muslim, had disenfranchised much of the country's Sunni community over the past three years, some of whom have turned to Isis as a means of reasserting themselves.

After digging in for the past two months, Maliki now faces a desperate battle to form a government, with his key backer Iran understood to have told him that it no longer supports his bid to lead the country for a third term.

Kurdish leader, Massoud Barazani, has said he is moving towards holding a referendum that could pave the way for an independence bid, a move that could spell the end of Iraq, and unsettle surrounding countries, including Syria, Turkey and Iran.

[Cidersomerset]

From David Ickes site........I posted these on another thread earlier , some I see
Amzer has already posted......



Iraqi Army Seizes Israeli-Made Weapons from ISIS Terrorist

Thursday 7th August 2014 at 08:20 By david-icke


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‘According to reports, the army seized a cache of weapons, including Israeli-made
LAV missiles, during an operation near Tikrit.

Reports say that the army found the hideout with the help of people and their reports
and seized large quantities of homemade bombs, RPG rockets, mortars, roadside bombs,
rocket launchers, and maps.

The Iraqi army destroyed large caches of weapons and ammunition used by the
militants in the region, the source added.’

Read more …

http://whatsupic.com/news-politics-world/1407217336.html

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French Report: ISIS/ISIL Leader is a Mossad Agent

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‘Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called ”Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in
Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward
Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/isis_035-640x383.jpg

Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents
and is a Mossad agent.
We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph
Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother:’


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Read more …


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Why Aren’t ISIS and Al-Qaeda Attacking Israel?

Thursday 7th August 2014 at 08:19 By david-icke


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‘With the recent slaughter of Palestinians taking place on television screens across the world,
only the grossly misinformed would believe that Israel’s Palestinian extermination program is
actually “self-defense.”

Yet for all of Israel’s whining about how it is being targeted by “Islamic extremists” and
“terrorists,”(which should be translated to mean Palestinians, Iran, or any other secular
or nationalist Arab government in the region) there is a curious and deafening silence when
it is confronted with actual terrorists and Muslim fanatics such as ISIS, al-Nusra, and the
myriad of other fundamentalist groups waging jihad in Syria and Iraq.

This bizarre silence has yet to raise the eyebrows of the somnambulant general public.’

Read more: Why Aren't ISIS and Al-Qaeda Attacking Israel?

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/why-arent-isis-and-al-qaeda-attacking.html#!bxYBFK


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40,000 Iraqis stranded on mountain as Isis jihadists threaten death

Thursday 7th August 2014 at 08:14 By david-icke


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‘Tens of thousands of members of one of Iraq’s oldest minorities have been
stranded on a mountain in the country’s north-west, facing slaughter at the
hands of jihadists surrounding them below if they flee, or death by dehydration
if they stay.

UN groups say at least 40,000 members of the Yazidi sect, many of them
women and children, have taken refuge in nine locations on Mount Sinjar,
a craggy, mile-high ridge identified in local legend as the final resting
place of Noah’s ark.

At least 130,000 more people, many from the Yazidi stronghold of Sinjar,
have fled to Dohuk, in the Kurdish north, or to Irbil, where regional authorities
have been struggling since June to deal with one of the biggest and most
rapid refugee movements in decades.’

Read more: 40,000 Iraqis stranded on mountain as Isis jihadists threaten death



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[Cidersomerset]

As David says in the vid a lot of these events are all part of the bigger picture
which seems to be war with Syria then Iran , Russia and China......

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Economic Hitman : Vladimir Putin signs historic $20bn oil deal with Iran to bypass Western sanctions...China, Brics..



These are the main reasons why the west has been stirring up trouble in the
Ukraine as far as I can see. There are obviously other factors involved, but
it does seem strange to be pushing Russia to the brink of war, by supporting
an illegal regime in Kiev destroying the cities and killing many ethnic Russians
in the East of the country. Putin knows if he interferes, as happened in the Crimea
which had unique historical ties with Russia , it will give Obama the green light to
call in NATO. But if he does nothing , the Russian media will put pressure on him.I
think in the end Putin will bide his time and open his borders to the refugees and
call the west bluff by not sending official military forces into the region, Although
this could change at any time with another 'false flag'......

Quo Bono...Who benifits ? and Follow the money ! ....The Economic Hitmen from
the west that have exploited Africa for over a century and South America and
Asia to various degrees at different periods. This is the reason why the elites in the
west are gambling on provoking war , before in their eyes Russia and China become
to power full and they start losing their wealth to their new Russian and Asian Elites.

Either way the normal citizens from all over the world will be manipulated
and drawn into conflict, that no one wants. Except the rich elites and corporations.



Read more..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73634-Economic-Hitman-Vladimir-Putin-signs-historic-20bn-oil-deal-with-Iran-to-bypass-Western-sanctions...China-Brics..&p=862285#post862285


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NATO Warns Russia Will Use ‘Humanitarian Mission’ as Pretext to Invade Ukraine

Thursday 7th August 2014 at 08:06 By david-icke

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‘NATO is again warning that Russia has amassed troops on its border and may soon invade Ukraine.

NATO claims Russia has 20,000 troops on the border and added 8,000 this week. Ukrainian officials,
who routinely exaggerate the Russian threat, say the number is close to 45,000 troops with 100
fighter jets, helicopters and bombers, further heightening tensions in the region.’

Read more: NATO Warns Russia Will Use 'Humanitarian Mission' as Pretext to Invade Ukraine


http://www.prisonplanet.com/nato-warns-russia-will-use-humanitarian-mission-as-pretext-to-invade-ukraine.html


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Something else which is straight out of Scy Fy movie...

Kerry in the second interview with the secret space programme whistleblower who
she visited in Prison.

Said Africa had been seeded to a group of humanoid ET's from the Alderbaron
system . With this ISIS threat possibly heading for a 'Nuke Out' with Israel
North Africa could be cleared and if during this, the Ebola crises got out of hand in
west and central Africa, this could be part of the human clearances.

Kerry did not say if they were the same ET's the Vril society was communicating in
NAZI Germany. I know this is probably unlikely, but it is strange that it was Africa
not anywhere else supposedly given to the ET's to colonise. It was likened to the
scenario in the TV series 'The Event' that was pulled after only one season
and as it was getting off the ground.

Pure speculation but worth a mention I thought......

TqYX-qI9oxw

[jackovesk]

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07 Aug 2014 03:51 | Written by Kerry Cassidy |

This is a very insightful article describing how Israel funded the beginnings of Hamas as an alternative to the PLO... The idea being 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. And the U.S. does the same with ISIS (and Israel) and Al CIAda and so on.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6UqqqKKin8Q/U-JRLcfIFbI/AAAAAAAAekQ/x1xTr14Guts/s1600/israelus.png

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/why-arent-isis-and-al-qaeda-attacking.html#!bxOJgc


..."Taking into consideration the fact that Israel has provided military and medical support to the most bloodthirsty and brutal Islamic extremist terrorists in the world and the fact that it has created Hamas from the very beginning, the answer to the question of “Why aren't organizations like Nusra, al-Qaeda, and ISIS attacking Israel?” is quite simple – because Israel is partly responsible for funding and directing them.

With all of this in mind, any claims of victimhood by Israel should immediately be discarded. Indeed, this portrayal of self-defense and endangerment should especially be discarded when one considers the history of the state itself.

Israel has made its own enemies by virtue of its colonial nature, its foreign and domestic policy, and even by direct organization and funding. It is thus wholly accurate to say that Israel’s enemies are literally those of its own making."

--Brandon Turbeville

By the same token the U.S. is also funding and creating its own enemies. As is Britain.

On another level what is clear is how war and discension worldwide whether in Africa, Gaza or the Ukraine fills the coffers of arms sales and keeps countries impoverished. In some cases like with Iraq, when a country becomes too much of a developed force to be reckoned with, they create a war to bomb it back to the stone age. In the end there is an even larger agenda having to do with ruling Planet Earth. That side of things is obviously not covered in the scope of the above article.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2224-israel-funding-hamas-isis-the-enemy-of-my-enemy

PS - Did ya get all that...:confused:

Tricky ((Murdering little COWARDS)) aren't they...:spy:

[Lifebringer]

Heartless resource control monsters is how I describe them, but if we don't use their resources/products, and don't let them steal and pollute our water, we won't have to buy it from them at exorbant shelf prices when shtf. WE've got to stay on these drought states that need solutions to keep the corporate structure from devouring the only water in the planet that fish and humans have to share. Machines need oil to survive and very little of it to function, so, let's keep up the fight to keep corporations from OWNING what we need to live or we'll die if we don't have it stuff. Like food, water, land to grow our own when income resources are scarce or plundered by elites. That right should NEVER HAVE TO COME FOR A VOTE, BUT WATCH THE CORPORATE GREEDY CRACKED POTS, try to sell US/middle class and poor up the river, so they always keep the same slice of the pie, no matter how many losses.

[Hervé]

Continued from post # 10 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72799-ISIS-The-Start-of-World-War-III-David-Icke&p=862203&viewfull=1#post862203):

Wiping Out the Christians of Syria and Iraq to Remap the Mid-East: Prerequisite to a Clash of Civilizations? (II)

Mahdi Darius NAZEMROAYA (http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/mahdi-darius-nazemroaya.html) | 01.08.2014 | 00:00

For Part I (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/30/wiping-out-christians-syria-iraq-remap-mid-east-prerequisite-clash-civilizations-i.html) (<---)


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The first part of this article discussed the targeting of Christian Syrians and Iraqis. It detailed how their ancient communities, churches, and clerics have all come under fire and persecution by the US-supported insurgents that are ravaging both Syria and Iraq. The second part will explain the rationale behind this and how it is tied to the strategic goals of the US and Israel to redraw the map of the Middle East and North Africa. [1]

There is an attempt to cordon off the Arabs and create distinctive and sharply delineating lines. These lines of delineation are replacing the seamless lines of transition that exist in places like the Middle East, North Africa, and the Balkans. Under this scheme, there can no longer be a melding transition between societies and countries. What is being staged is the creation of an exclusively Muslim region in Syria and the Middle East— excluding the citadel of Israel — that will be in turmoil because of fighting within the Sunni majority and between the Sunni Muslims and the Alawites, Twelver (Jaffari) Shiites, Zaidi Shiites, and Ibadis.

Bkerké’s Maronite Patriarchate Senses the Danger to the Levant’s Christians Amidst the Arab Spring and the start of the problems in Syria, the Maronite Greek Catholic Syriac Church of Antioch, which is simply called the Maronite Church (after Saint Youhana Maroun, its patron) and the largest of the autonomous Eastern Catholic Churches, appointed a new patriarch on March 15, 2011. The new Maronite patriarch, Mar Beshara Peter (Boutros) Al-Rahi, would shift the underlying politics of the Maronite Patriarchate in Bkerké (and Dimane in the summer) towards a new direction from that of his predecessor Cardinal Mar Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir, who heavily favoured the bigoted warlord Samir Geagea’s Lebanese Forces Party and the Hariri-led March 14 Alliance.

Cardinal Nasrallah was at odds with Damascus and he even refused to visit the Maronite communities inside Syria on church missions himself when he headed the Maronite See, because he said that his visit would signal his approval towards the Syrian regime’s actions inside Lebanon. Cardinal Nasrallah’s supporters would pointed out, in his support, that he also refused to legitimize Israel by personally visiting it whereas Patriarch Al-Rahi decided to join Pope Francis I and his delegation in 2014 for a meeting with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, the figurehead primate of all the Eastern Orthodox Churchs, in Jerusalem to mark the fiftieth anniversary of Pope Paul VI’s meeting with Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras I in1964. Inside Lebanon, Sfeir either had a tense relationship or was at odds with Hezbollah, Michel Aoun’s Free Patriotic Movement, Suleiman Frangieh’s Marada Movement, and the rest of the March 8 Alliance too. Mar Nasrallah’s unyielding positions created divisions among the Maronite Christians and he began to be increasingly opposed by other Maronite bishops, which believed he was endangering the Maronite and Christian positions in Lebanon through his policies. It was even alleged that the Holy See or Vatican intervened and nudged Boutros Sfeir to resign vis-à-vis Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, the Argentine prefect overseeing the congregation of Eastern Catholic Churches for the papacy, and when Cardinal Nasrallah himself went to Rome to visit Pope Benedict XVI and to unveil a statue of Youhana Maroun in Vatican City. These accounts, however, were dismissed by his Maronite supporters as the malicious rumours of his opponents.

Upon his election into the Maronite Patriarchate by the Synod of Maronite Bishops, Cardinal Beshara reversed his predecessor’s personal policies by taking a stand in support of Lebanon’s Hezbollah and its ally Syria. Hezbollah, which had frozen meetings with the Maronite Patriarchate under Boutros Sfier’s leadership, sent a delegation led by senior Hezbollah parliamentarian Mohammed Raad to Bkerké to open a new chapter by renewing dialogue. [2] He also expressed his renewed fears about a purging of Christians in the Levant and the Middle East. In the past he and other Maronite leaders had fears that the Saudi-supported Hariri family could eventually devastate the Christians in Lebanon through its support of fanatical organizations and militias that openly support Al-Qaeda and have anti-Christian tendencies. In 2011, Beshara was warning against the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. [3] Moreover, Patriarch Al-Rahi, like many other Christian spiritual leaders in Lebanon and Syria, recognized the threat that the insurgence afflicting Syria posed towards all Levantine Christians. Like Hezbollah and the Free Patriotic Movement, Patriarch Al-Rahi also realized that the insurgents would eventually attack Lebanon, if they successfully took over Syria.

Al-Rahi’s support for Hezbollah and Syria became clear when he met French President Nicolas Sarkozy at the Élysée Palace on September 5, 2011. Sarkozy and he had disagreements about regime change in Syria. Patriarch Al-Rahi argued that the Syrians should be left alone and that Syrian polity should be allowed to reform without foreign interference from France and its allies. [4] Nicolas Sarkozy was also told by Patriarch Al-Rahi that the real threat to Lebanon was Israel and that Tel Aviv needed to be neutralized if France was sincere and legitimately wanted Hezbollah’s paramilitary forces to disarm. [5] It was maintained in Lebanon, in the course of the exchange between the two men, that Sarkozy told Beshara that the Christians of Lebanon and Syria could immigrate to the European Union as consolation. This was later denied in a statement released on behalf of the Élysée Palace by the French Embassy in Beirut on September 23, 2011. [6]

Al-Rahi was instantly criticized by the Hariri-led March 14 camp whereas he was thanked by Syria’s Christian and Muslim spiritual leaders, which even visited him as part of an interfaith delegation upon his return to Lebanon. [7] Although they were supposed to visit him after he was elected as the spiritual leader of the Maronites, the Syrian interfaith delegation’s visit had been postponed due to the crisis in Syria. [8] Nonetheless, the Syrian interfaith delegation, accompanied by Syria’s ambassador to Lebanon, took the opportunity to signal its gratefulness by calling on the Maronite Patriarchate in Bkerké. [9] Hezbollah, the Free Patriotic Movement, the Amal Movement, and March 8 applauded Beshara upon his arrival to Beirut from Paris and during his visit to South Lebanon. Prime Minister Najib Al-Mikati and President Michel Suleiman also expressed support for Al-Rahi’s position in France. [10]

A Christian-Muslim Divorce and the Destruction of the «Levantine Cleft» The New York Times began to assert in 2012 that «Syria’s pluralistic society, which once rose above sectarian identity in a region often characterized by a homicidal assertion of religious belief, is now faced with civil disintegration and ethnic cleansing». [11] The Maronite Patriarchate and the Christian communities of the Levant realized that was at stake in Syria was much more than about the Syrian government. The things that were really stake were the continuation of the ancient Christian presence and the coexistence of Christians with Muslims, Druze, and Jews which the Israeli and US governments were trying to demolish with the aim of creating sectarian states that would be line with the so-called «clash of civilizations».

Syria is viewed by advocates of the clash of civilizations paradigm as what is called a «cleft nation». Cleft nations like Lebanon, Syria, and Bosnia (as well as the former Yugoslavia and Soviet Union) are merging points between supposedly different civilizations. These nations and their societies help blend the different civilizations together and, hence, these cleft nations can obstruct a clash of civilizations by bridging different civilizational entities. The purging of Christian Syrians and Christian Iraqis, like Israeli and Zionist attempts to make Jewish Iranians leave their Iranian homeland, is aimed at sociologically and politically reconfigure the Middle East as a crossroad of different civilizations and as a merging point for the monotheistic Abrahamic faiths and their followers and confessions. [12] It also denies the fact that Western Christians, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, and Jews really belong to one civilization. Moreover, this project’s nefarious aims include unknotting or de-blending Syria and the Middle East as pluralistic societies, social mosaics, and historic merging points between Christians and Muslims.

This Christian-Muslim divorce and project to redraw the map is why the corrupt Sarkozy’s offer to relocate the Levantine Christian to the European Union was no gracious offer whatsoever. It was dually a slap in the face of all Christendom and all Arabdom by the same powers that have deliberately created the conditions to assault the ancient Christian communities of Syria. Resettling the Christian communities outside of the region and/or demarcating them into sectarian enclaves is meant to delineate the Arab nations along the lines of exclusively Muslim nations, This falls into accordance with both the Yinon Plan and the geopolitical objectives of Washington to control Eurasia by constructing a clash of supposedly different civilizations.

NOTES
[1] Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, «Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ‘New Middle East,’» Global Research, November 18, 2006.

[2] «Hizbullah Delegation Visits Bkirki and al-Rahi: We Haven’t Tackled Issue of Arms,» Naharnet, March 18, 2011.

[3] Hussein Dakroub, «Rai defends stance on Syria, weapons,» Daily Star, September 12, 2011; Jean Aziz, «Christians of the Levant Say France Is Plotting to Displace Them,» Al-Monitor, January 7, 2013.

[4] Ibid.

[5] Ibid.

[6] «France denies Sarkozy said no home for Christians in region,» Daily Star, September 23, 2011.

[7] Bkirki: Syrian Delegation’s Visit Aimed at Bridging Gap between Sects,» Naharanet, September 29, 2011; «Patriarch al-Rahi, Damascus Mufti Discuss Syrian-Lebanese Relations and Bolstering Islamic-Christian Fraternity,» Syrian Arab News Agency, September 29, 2011.

[8] Ibid.

[9] Ibid.

[10] Hussein Dakroub, «Raid defends Syria,» op. cit.

[11] Kapil Komireddi, «Syria’s Crumbling Pluralism,» New York Times, August 3,2012.

[12] Robert Tait, «Iran’s Jews reject cash offer to move to Israel,» Guardian, July 12, 2007; Yossi Melman, «Iranian Jews blast offer of cash for immigrating to Israel,» Haaretz, July 14, 2007.

[Christine]

Hi Friend.. I am not sure what your confusion is about. The spider has woven many webs and unfortunately it is only those who are still in the web that don't see.

The other side of the coin is.. what are we doing about it? I believe we have learned that you can't fight hate with more hate, deception with more deception, or war with war.

For myself it is taking the energy of outrage and transforming it into bright action.. burning away further still the chaff of deception until we as individuals and later as humanity have reclaimed our inALIENable rights (Inalienable: Not subject to sale or transfer; inseparable. That which is inalienable cannot be bought, sold, or transferred from one individual to another.) of True sovereignty.

I rage with you Jack.. and I rage with the fire of transformation.

Then we fully grasp and actualize "NOT IN MY NAME" ..


PS - Did ya get all that...:confused:

Tricky ((Murdering little COWARDS)) aren't they...:spy:

[jackovesk]

Hi Friend.. I am not sure what your confusion is about. The spider has woven many webs and unfortunately it is only those who are still in the web that don't see.

The other side of the coin is.. what are we doing about it? I believe we have learned that you can't fight hate with more hate, deception with more deception, or war with war.

For myself it is taking the energy of outrage and transforming it into bright action.. burning away further still the chaff of deception until we as individuals and later as humanity have reclaimed our inALIENable rights (Inalienable: Not subject to sale or transfer; inseparable. That which is inalienable cannot be bought, sold, or transferred from one individual to another.) of True sovereignty.

I rage with you Jack.. and I rage with the fire of transformation.

Then we fully grasp and actualize "NOT IN MY NAME" ..


PS - Did ya get all that...:confused:

Tricky ((Murdering little COWARDS)) aren't they...:spy:

:target: People think I jump around and carry on like a pork-chop just for the hell-of-it...:nono:

Nothing could be further from the Truth...:nono:

I'm a great believer in the (Saturation-Effect) by simply (Manifesting) your thoughts through the written word...:typing:

If you want your 'Content' to be absorbed in the collective, there ((MUST)) be (True Intent) behind your Truth...:wizard:

IMHO the work has (ALREADY been DONE), yes Enough of the population know the Truth and subsequently positive CHANGE is quietly amassing in the shadows waiting to POUNCE on the Banksters & NWO Cabal..!!!

[jerry]

No speculation on how Israel fits here but found this posted awhile back. Thought I would share it as it amusingly reflects the dire reality of the Mideast along with the rest of the world
Iran is backing Assad. Gulf states are against Assad!
Assad is against the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood and Obama are against [Egypt’s] General Sisi.
But Gulf states are pro-Sisi! Which means they are against the Muslim Brotherhood!
Iran is pro-Hamas, but Hamas is backing the Muslim Brotherhood!
Obama is backing the Muslim Brotherhood, yet Hamas is against the U.S.!
Gulf states are pro-U.S. But Turkey is with Gulf states against Assad; yet Turkey is pro-Muslim Brotherhood against General Sisi. And General Sisi is being backed by the Gulf states!
Welcome to the Middle East and have a nice day.

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDT2FR5fYE

"Published on Aug 8, 2014
http://www.undergroundworldnews.com
Hundreds of Yazidi sect women have been captured by militants from the Islamic State group, formerly known as ISIS, according to media reports citing Iraqi officials.

Mlitant group Islamic State has ordered all girls and women in and around Iraq’s northern city of Mosul to undergo female genital mutilation (FGM), the United Nations said today. The “fatwa” issued by the Sunni Muslim fighters would potentially affect 4 million women and girls, UN resident and humanitarian coordinator in Iraq Jacqueline Badcock told reporters in Geneva by videolink from Arbil."

[ghostrider]

and so begins the new enemy , ISIS ... if any Islam followers have any humanity in them , they will unite and stop this ... what has the world come to ??? making statements and videos saying they are going to slaughter women and children ... We need to send some love , peace , kindness , to the middle east ... if they every needed a spiritual teacher walking among them , it's now ... the people walk in darkness , live for death , blood , sacrifice , control , fear , all the negative energy ... Ironic , the very place the sons of heaven came down to , trying to teach a better way , is the most Evil place on Earth ... No wonder the nailed Immanuel to a cross and beat him and made a spectacle of it ...

[Snowflower]

Is "Immanuel" Jesus in your reference, Ghostrider? If so, you might like to consider the historical reality that Mohammed appeared something like 630 years after Jesus was on the planet. Therefore, followers of Mohammed weren't around to nail Him to the cross. As heinous and worthy of complete annihilation is this crowd calling itself "Isis," they are not the folks who nailed Jesus to a cross.

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gcpV8pSWi4

"Published on Aug 10, 2014
The artist taxi driver"

Chunkymark explains the war machine and the elements that bind it and drive it.
He starts off by telling us about a headline photograph of a 7 year old boy hold up a decapitated head, fronting a Rupert Murdoch Australian newspaper.

[Colla]

The Dutch official, Yasmina Haifi, tweeted today "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, it's a staged plan by the Zionists to denigrate the Islam".

Inmediatly after this tweet she was suspended from her job.
The ministry of Security and Justice and the National Coördinatior Anti-Terrorism and Security (of which she is the project manager) told the press that they do not share the beliefs of this official.

Y. Haifi is also a member of the socialist party Partij van de Arbeid (Labour Party). A spokesperson from the PvdA also states 'not to share te beliefs of Haifa'.

Source http://nos.nl/artikel/685886-ambtenaar-geschorst-om-istweet.html


I watched this piece on the news today. Reportes soon discredited her claim about the zionists. They then asked the question: 'How does the government react to those who support the terrorists.'

We have had quite some 'pro-IS' protests in The Hague in one of the worse areas of the city.
Political leader of the PVV Geert Wilders, also known as the Islam hater, quickly seized the opportunity to condem Muslims and asked people to go out on the streets and protest against the pro-IS protesters.

It's disturbing for me to see how the goverment and media in my country are stearing onto a conflict against IS in Iraq.

I'd like to know if people are noticing anything like this in their countries as well?

Greeting,

Kevin

[thunder24]

hillbillies here are dipped in the blood of the cross, they only protest if their monthly check don't come...

[Carmody]

"To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

(apparently not said by Voltaire, but it's still a truism)

[Operator]

I did post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=864244&viewfull=1#post864244) some info about this in Bill's "Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Putin, and World War III" thread ...

[linksplatinum]

Another nail in the coffin... Proof that this was staged like everything else we've seen lately...

[Colla]

Did not see your post, makes this one redundant.
Thanks for pointing it out mate!

[Hervé]

"To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

(apparently not said by Voltaire, but it's still a truism)

... taken to heightened sensitivities in that alleged quote's author's country: Look who's paranoid now! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67181-Look-who-s-paranoid-now-) (<--- click)

Then, see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72799-ISIS-The-Start-of-World-War-III-David-Icke&p=861278&viewfull=1#post861278) (<---) about IS/ISIS/ISIL leader being a MOSSAD agent!

[Operator]

Did not see your post, makes this one redundant.
Thanks for pointing it out mate!

No problem, even better to have an individual thread on this ...
I've added a link to this thread in my post ;)

[donk]

The "insurgency" of ISIS has drawn to re-watch old Archer episodes, which centers on an organization of the same name:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110421211523/archer/images/f/fd/ISIS_Logo.jpg


http://www.livememe.com/ah193ep

Interestingly, the show has evolved where now the organization has gone from the intelligence community (with servie-to-head of company "hired security" jobs mixed in), ISIS now runs cocaine to run their budget.

Anyway, I don't know how much "truth" I'll find there, but the worse thing that happens is I laugh my ass a half hour at a time...but if some sort of force or army or agency or gaggle of terrorists call themselves ODIN, then Archer is a prophet.

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[mojo]

We can learn how large their fighting units are and what equipment they've taken. There was an even more recent video of a parade with all the stolen US military equipment on Yahoo. It was a little heartbreaking and couldnt watch it for long thinking of all the US soldiers that served and all the lost gains.

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[Rollo]

Are they really stolen. This equipment looks like brand new or in perfect state. Without any trace of fight.
The other thing is all this banners, stickers and flags hanging like we can see during any product launch
by marketing department in business world. And yeah of course ISIS is business or anything they do on the end of the day has to make profit.

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[Milneman]

Clearly, ISIS has a leader as radicalized, as spiritually and mentally wounded as they do, they will eventually fail. We just need to air drop more tarts that's all.

Assume they win.

Assume that radical Islam is now the new world control.

Give it a few years, maybe a few hundred years, and it too will crumble. All you have to do is participate. That's all ISIS wants you to do. That's the game.

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I will say this much: for all that modern radical Christianity has made a lot of people uncomfortable, disgusted, and raise more than one eyebrow, they have yet to cut off the heads of people.

I will also say this: this entire event is being orchestrated to create the reaction that the world is currently giving it.

*golf clap* Congrats, world. You've dealt yourself in one more time.

[Omni]

I will say this much: for all that modern radical Christianity has made a lot of people uncomfortable, disgusted, and raise more than one eyebrow, they have yet to cut off the heads of people.
They still burn people as witches in Africa under christianity. Beheadings possible too.

[Milneman]

I've yet to see a modern evangelical burn or behead anyone. But by all means, post the link. I'd love to see it. The story I mean. I just assumed that most fundamentalists ranted, raved, protested, but didn't murder on video for the principle of loosing a tart.

[Omni]

I've yet to see a modern evangelical burn or behead anyone. But by all means, post the link. I'd love to see it. The story I mean. I just assumed that most fundamentalists ranted, raved, protested, but didn't murder on video for the principle of loosing a tart.

There are tons of videos of it on youtube. Just search: christian burning people in africa as witches
heres one:
***Disclaimer: Really terrible video, and will effect energy for sure. Watch at own risk***
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[Snowflower]

No, American or European Christians don't behead at this moment in time. But medieval torture devices of stretching arms and legs in four directions until the body tore into pieces was done in the name of Christianity. There are a lot of other methods of inflicting the most possible pain while keeping the body breathing that were and are perpetrated against humans in the name of some religion or other. Man's inhumanity to man is mostly done using God as the reason.

But, I will comment on the specific thread subject being "ISIS," in that I suspect strongly that ISIS in truth has nothing to do with actual belief in a higher power and everything to do with manipulation from the CIA, or whatever agency is currently carrying out the orders of the
PTB.

[joeecho]

I've yet to see a modern evangelical burn or behead anyone. But by all means, post the link. I'd love to see it. The story I mean. I just assumed that most fundamentalists ranted, raved, protested, but didn't murder on video for the principle of loosing a tart.

I would get a shaking head syndrome if I was to watch too much of videos like this in one sitting.

[Omni]

I've yet to see a modern evangelical burn or behead anyone. But by all means, post the link. I'd love to see it. The story I mean. I just assumed that most fundamentalists ranted, raved, protested, but didn't murder on video for the principle of loosing a tart.

I would get a shaking head syndrome if I was to watch too much of videos like this in one sitting.
I apologize for posting that dark video. but it was asked of me. I will put a disclaimer now... I couldn't stand watching the full thing myself... btw thats a misquote. No big deal but it's not my quote :)

[joeecho]

I've yet to see a modern evangelical burn or behead anyone. But by all means, post the link. I'd love to see it. The story I mean. I just assumed that most fundamentalists ranted, raved, protested, but didn't murder on video for the principle of loosing a tart.

I would get a shaking head syndrome if I was to watch too much of videos like this in one sitting.
I apologize for posting that dark video. but it was asked of me. I will put a disclaimer now... I couldn't stand watching the full thing myself... btw thats a misquote. No big deal but it's not my quote :)

I actually could not watch the whole thing either...especially because the point was well made and onward and upward I went. The video has it's place because words are sometimes not enough, IMO.

I am just thankful that the whole world isn't that 'rough' all the time. Holy Moly.

[161803398]

the US government probably loves them because they will keep the middle east in the dark ages for another few hundred years.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

This from Jim Kunstler's blog:
"...Which is that in the worst case that ISIS succeeds in establishing a sprawling caliphate, they will never be able to govern it successfully, only preside over an awesome episode of bloodletting and social collapse. This is especially true in what is now called Saudi Arabia, with its sclerotic ruling elite clinging to power. If and when the ISIS maniacs come rolling in on a cavalcade of You-Tube beheading videos, what are the chances that the technicians running the oil infrastructure there will stick around on the job? And could ISIS run all that machinery themselves? I wouldn’t count on it. And I wouldn’t count on global oil supply lines continuing to function in the way the world requires them to. If you’re looking for the near-future spark of World War Three, start there."

[conk]

I could not watch the burning video to completion. I tried, in honor of the people who were killed, but could not see through the tears. I could easily lose my faith in mankind. Understanding this behavior is not something I can remotely accomplish. God bless that poor man, just sitting there burning. All hope gone, just resigned to a horrific death. If there ever was a heaven and a place of glory and grace, may these poor victims find it. God bless them for eternity and may they return as the most nourished and happy people on Earth.

Conk

[Iarmhéid]

We can learn how large their fighting units are and what equipment they've taken. There was an even more recent video of a parade with all the stolen US military equipment on Yahoo. It was a little heartbreaking and couldnt watch it for long thinking of all the US soldiers that served and all the lost gains.

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IYuPmcAitIk

Can you explain what you mean by reversed gains? What was ever gained by the invasion? I don't understand. All this seems so predictable to me. The manner of the invasion - it amounted to genocide. We can talk about who funds and arms these people but the will to act this out was created by the invasion, right?

[river]

We can learn how large their fighting units are and what equipment they've taken. There was an even more recent video of a parade with all the stolen US military equipment on Yahoo. It was a little heartbreaking and couldnt watch it for long thinking of all the US soldiers that served and all the lost gains.

I3EXrfs6Ra0

IYuPmcAitIk

Can you explain what you mean by reversed gains? What was ever gained by the invasion? I don't understand. All this seems so predictable to me. The manner of the invasion - it amounted to genocide. We can talk about who funds and arms these people but the will to act this out was created by the invasion, right?

No

It was created by philosophy , differences

Which are Ancient , at least 6000yrs. Ago

[Cidersomerset]

There is obviously a lot of hype and speculation of the esculation of the mini
conflicts in the middle East and Ukraine . There is tension between the US/Japan
with China and the long standing frictions with north Korea.

This could be the build up to WW111 that the Neo -cons and there master have
been trying to manipulate since 1990 ? Or just keeping the Military Ind
Complex 'healthy'with plenty of budget increases after Iraq & Afghanistan scale down.

Though the ISIS psyop and Israels crushing of Gasa seems to pathing the way for
fresh assaults in the area.....

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Pentagon’s top-secret hypersonic weapon explodes in mystery Alaska fireball:
Flaming missile that can hit anywhere on Earth in an hour lights up the sky

Tuesday 26th August 2014 at 05:56 By david-icke


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According to the Washington Free Beacon, the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon is
being developed as a joint project between the Army Space and Missile Defense
Command and the Army Forces Strategic Command to form the Pentagon's Prompt
Global Strike initiative.

The Defense Department wants a weapon that can strike targets anywhere in the
world within hours using a conventionally armed missile traveling at Mach 5 or
3,500 miles an hour.

The missile would be used to hit terrorist targets identified on satellites thousands
of miles away or weapons of mass destruction being moved in open ground that
only have a small window within which to strike.

The disastrous abort of the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon in Alasak follows a failed
test by the Chinese military of a similar system.

The Wu-14 missile is being developed by China to launch nuclear warheads or to
strike ships and is being designed to travel at speeds of up to Mach 10 or 8,000
miles-an-hour.

Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post, said that the Chinese test of the Wu-14
three weeks ago failed in similar circumstances to the American test.

According to the Washington Free Beacon, Russia too is attempting to develop its
own hypersonic weapon.

Source: Washington Free Beacon

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Pentagon's top-secret hypersonic weapon explodes in mystery Alaska fireball:
Flaming missile that can hit anywhere on Earth in an hour lights up the sky

Rocket carrying an experimental Army strike weapon exploded early Monday after
taking off from a launch pad in AlaskaKodiak photographer Scott Wight watched the
launch from Cape Greville in Chiniak Weapon able to travel at speeds of up to
3,500mph and strike anywhere on Earth in hours

By James Nye for MailOnline and Reuters and Associat

‘A top-secret weapon being developed by the US military was destroyed four
seconds after its launch from a test range in Alaska early on Monday after
controllers detected a problem with the system, the Pentagon said.

The Advanced Hypersonic Weapon is part of a program to create a missile that will
destroy targets anywhere on Earth within hours – traveling at speeds in excess of
3,500 miles-an-hour or Mach 5.

The mission was aborted to ensure public safety, and no one was injured in the
incident, which occurred shortly after 4 am EDT at the Kodiak Launch Complex in
Alaska, said Maureen Schumann, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Defense Department.’

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Detonation: The moment the weapon exploded is captured by Scott Wight and
shows the horizon from Cape Greville in Chiniak, Alaska

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Strike capability: The Falcon HTV-2 will be launched on a rocket into space then will
glide back down to Earth. The 2011 test flight lasted only nine minutes before being
deliberately crashed as a safety measure due to technical difficulties

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734332/Amateur-
photographer-captures-moment-experimental-US-weapon-detonates-launchpad-
wilds-Alaska.html#ixzz3BUucp095
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China military weapons Hypersonic aggresive missiles outshine USA power arm
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Published on 22 Jan 2014


China has done an experimental flight of a hypersonic missile delivery vehicle
intended to travel several times faster than the speed of sound.

A statement issued by China's Ministry of National Defense on January 16 said the
test of China's new "hypersonic glide vehicle" that apparently took place on January
9, was not intended to advance the ability of the nation to penetrate American
missile defence systems.

The statement said that it was normal for China to conduct scientific experiments
within its borders according to its plans and the tests were neither aimed at any
nation nor any specific target.

According to the US newspaper the Washington Free Beacon,China's hypersonic
glide vehicle is likely launched atop an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), then
released at an altitude of 62 miles (100 kilometres) or less. The statement said the
glider can then zoom toward its target at up to 10 times the speed of sound. They
first reported the test on January 13.

Reports say a hypersonic glide vehicle carrying a missile would be more difficult to
detect, track and intercept than a standard ICBM as the former's route does not
reach outer space.

The newspaper also said China stands second in performing such tests after the US
to have effectively tested a hypersonic delivery vehicle capable to carry nuclear
weapons at a speed above Mach 10. The hypersonic vehicles, designed by the US,
Russia and India are developed for exact targeting and fast delivery of weapons.
They are intended to counter aggressive missile and space defences.

Meanwhile, Pentagon in its annual report on the Chinese military made no
indication of hypersonic test flights but did say the Chinese had built a hypersonic
wind tunnel for experiments.

The surging economic power of China has been matched by increasing military
might, including investments in an aircraft carrier, anti-ship ballistic missiles,
satellites and other hardware.

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[Cidersomerset]

US forces move into Syria: Obama paves way for airstrikes on ISIS after sending
in spy planes – despite Assad warning that any attack will be seen as ‘aggression’

Tuesday 26th August 2014 at 05:59 By david-icke

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US forces move into Syria: Obama paves way for airstrikes on ISIS after sending
in spy planes - despite Assad warning that any attack will be seen as 'aggression'
Surveillance flights over Syria began earlier this morning, U.S. officials said

Move considered vital if Obama plans to carry out airstrikes on ISIS targets

Further information on ISIS' size, firepower and leadership location is needed
Obama has so far limited military action against ISIS to neighbouring Iraq
But murder of journalist James Foley is thought to have changed his stance


By James Nye for MailOnline and Reuters Reporter and Associated Press

Published: 03:54, 26 August 2014 | Updated: 11:48, 26 August 2014



‘Barack Obama has paved the way for airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria after
spy planes started operating in the country on his command, according to U.S officials.

While the White House says military action inside Syria has not yet been approved,
additional intelligence on the militants is considered vital before any move can be
made – especially in the northern city of Raqqa, which ISIS has named the capital
of its self-declared caliphate. The move comes despite warnings from Syria’s
embattled president Bashar Assad that any airstrike in the country not given
his express permission would be considered an act of aggression.

Obama has so far sought a limited military campaign in neighbouring Iraq focused
on protecting American diplomats and Iraqi civilians under direct threat from the
brutal Islamist militant group.’

But officials have not ruled out escalating military action against ISIS, which has
increased its overt threats against the United States in recent weeks


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Growth: Demonstrators chant their support for ISIS - the brutal Islamist
militant group deemed too extreme even by Al Qaeda. U.S. President
Barack Obama has now paved the way for airstrikes on ISIS targets

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US supports Israel’s ‘disgraceful’ behaviour

Tuesday 26th August 2014 at 05:15 By david-icke


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‘An Israeli missile attack that killed 10 civilians sheltering in a U.N. school here
early this month prompted a call for restraint from the U.S. government over what
the State Department described as a “disgraceful’’ act.

Yet what Israel used in that Aug. 3 strike, according to the United Nations, was a
Hellfire missile — a U.S.-made weapon. The incident was one of many in the
ongoing six-week-old war in the Gaza Strip in which weapons sold to Israel by the
United States and some European nations have played a prominent role.

In the fighting between Israel and the Islamic militant group Hamas, the Palestinian
death toll now tops 1,900, with nearly three-fourths of the dead being civilians,
according to the United Nations.’

Read more: US supports Israel's 'disgraceful' behaviour


http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_67410.shtml?



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[aheb]

I have heard a few things in the past year to make me believe that the US isn't as strong as she may believe militarily. The Iranians brought down a US drone, the US said it was shot down, but it wasn't it was hacked into and landed. When the US sent warships to surround the bay of hormous one of the ships had to turn back becuase it's computer systems were hacked into and made inoperable. From Jim Willy I heard tha Russia has starburst missliles that are faster, fly further and carry more explosive capacity than cruise missiles.
Now we have no idea how true all of this is but it does cast a different light upon matters..............If an enemy stste wanted to really hurt America then an airburst nuke could cause a massive CME which would shut down the US electricity grid, if a nuke was detonated in a US city, it would be hard to detect the culprit, and finally Ebola has already arrived in the US and so easily, don't you think an enemy terrorist group could do the same.

[Cidersomerset]

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/2.66.0/desktop/3.5/img/blq-blocks_grey_alpha.png

26 August 2014 Last updated at 11:53

Syria conflict: Obama approves US surveillance flights


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Islamic State fighters parade through the Syrian city of Raqqa (30 June 2014)
The US is reportedly considering targeting IS leaders in their stronghold of the
Syrian city of Raqqa
Continue reading the main story
Syria conflict'No-one cares'
'Till the last drop of blood'
Suffering in west Aleppo
Defiant rebels

US President Barack Obama has authorised surveillance flights over Syria in
order to gain intelligence on the activities of Islamic State (IS).

Correspondents say the move could mark the first step towards US air strikes
inside Syria, where the jihadist group controls vast swathes of territory.

The US is already carrying out strikes against IS in neighbouring Iraq.

On Monday, the Syrian government said it would work with the international
community in the fight against IS.

Western governments have so far rejected suggestions that they collaborate
with President Bashar al-Assad in an attempt to counter the growing regional
threat posed by IS.

They have repeatedly called on Mr Assad to step down since the beginning of
the three-and-a-half year uprising against his rule, in which more than
191,000 people are believed to have been killed.

'Preparing options'

On Monday evening, US officials said Mr Obama had approved over the
weekend reconnaissance flights by unmanned and manned aircraft.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77171000/jpg/_77171246_77171150.jpg

An F/A-18C Hornet returning from Iraq lands on USS George H W Bush
(15 August 2014) Fighter jets based on the aircraft carrier, USS George
H W Bush, have been carrying out air strikes in Iraq One official later told
the Associated Press that they had already begun.

The US military has been carrying out aerial surveillance of IS - an
al-Qaeda breakaway formerly known as Isis - in Iraq for months and
launched air strikes on 8 August.

The president cited the threat to US diplomats and military personnel
and the humanitarian crisis in the north, where hundreds of thousands
of people have fled their homes since June as IS fighters and allied
Sunni rebels have taken control of dozens of cities, towns and villages.

Mr Obama has resisted taking military action in Syria, but Pentagon
officials are said to have advised him that the only way the threat
from IS can be fully eliminated is to go after the group there.

A spokesman for Gen Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint chiefs
of Staff, said the Pentagon was "preparing options to address Isis both in
Iraq and Syria with a variety of military tools including air strikes".


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Map showing Islamic State activity in Syria and Iraq
The options reportedly include targeting IS leaders in and around their
stronghold of the northern Syrian city of Raqqa, as well as in the east
near the Iraqi border.

Last week, IS published a video showing it killing the American journalist
James Foley, who was abducted in Syria in 2012. The group threatened to
kill other US citizens it was holding in retaliation for US air strikes.

It later emerged that US special forces had attempted to rescue the
hostages in July, but that they were not at the location in Syria where
the military thought they were being held.

'Ready for co-operation'

One Obama administration official told the New York Times that the
US did not intend to collaborate with the Assad government or inform
him in advance of any operation.

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"Syria is ready to cooperate and coordinate all efforts, whether regional or
international, to combat terrorism" - Walid Muallem, Syrian Foreign Minister

"It is not the case that the enemy of my enemy is my friend," said Benjamin
Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser. "Joining forces with Assad would
essentially permanently alienate the Sunni population in both Syria and Iraq,
who are necessary to dislodging [IS]."

On Monday, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said his government
was "ready for co-operation and co-ordination at the regional and
international level to fight terrorism".

But Mr Muallem warned the White House that it would view any unilateral
military action as a breach of sovereignty and an "act of aggression".

The Western-backed rebel Free Syrian Army, which is fighting IS across
northern Syria, meanwhile said its commanders on the ground were ready
to co-ordinate with the US.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28935590

[Cidersomerset]

Largest ever military drills with Russia, China & other SCO nations

_-NThtA606o


Published on 24 Aug 2014


China’s Inner Mongolia is hosting the biggest military drill ever
held by the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The training of
7,000 servicemen from five SCO member states is set to test
troops’ effectiveness in fighting terrorism. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/z5ezxy

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Russia military drills video: Baltic Fleet war games in Kaliningrad

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Published on 24 Aug 2014


Troops and vehicles assigned to the Baltic Fleet took part in mock landing exercises
on Saturday in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. More than 10 ships, Mikoyan
MiG-29 jet fighters, Kamov Ka-27 and Ka-50 helicopters, as well as over 80
vehicles including BTR-80 amphibious armored personnel carrier units, and 500
soldiers took part.

[Frederick Jackson]

I have heard a few things in the past year to make me believe that the US isn't as strong as she may believe militarily. The Iranians brought down a US drone, the US said it was shot down, but it wasn't it was hacked into and landed. When the US sent warships to surround the bay of hormous one of the ships had to turn back becuase it's computer systems were hacked into and made inoperable. From Jim Willy I heard tha Russia has starburst missliles that are faster, fly further and carry more explosive capacity than cruise missiles.
Now we have no idea how true all of this is but it does cast a different light upon matters..............If an enemy stste wanted to really hurt America then an airburst nuke could cause a massive CME which would shut down the US electricity grid, if a nuke was detonated in a US city, it would be hard to detect the culprit, and finally Ebola has already arrived in the US and so easily, don't you think
an enemy terrorist group could do the same.

I wonder if there is any country in the world more vulnerable to EMP attack than the US. Just our food production and distribution network alone -- what a disaster! And our suburban sprawl, wow, even more vulnerable. I just do not see off hand that other countries would be similarly so vulnerable as the US.

[Cidersomerset]

A discussion about how we got to where we are now
where Russia has been standing up to NATO for their
own interests that were lapsed after the collapse
of communism and the wests encroachment on her
borders over the last 24 years.

Which explains another piece of this strategic puzzle.

Ray MC Govern raises the point a couple times NATO
needs a real enemy for the up keep of the mil ind
complex not only in the US but Europe...

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CrossTalk: Russia's Worldview (ft. Ray McGovern)

Lspli7CubV8

Published on 25 Aug 2014


Russia's worldview of international politics is largely neglected in western media.
Nevertheless, Russia has its national interests and red lines. What is the world
according to Russia? CrossTalking with Martin McCauley, Nebojsa Malic and Ray McGovern.

[spizella]

Pope Francis is on the ISIS watch list

http://www.worldreligionnews.com/issues/isis-plot-reveals-pope-francis-may-terrorist-groups-next-target

Italian article with same information:
http://www.iltempo.it/esteri/2014/08/25/il-papa-nel-mirino-dei-fondamentalisti-islamici-1.1300134

[linksplatinum]

Nonprofit says ISIS is in Juarez, US officials reject claim

By Diana Washington Valdez / El Paso Times
POSTED:   08/29/2014 09:10:49 PM MDT

REPORTER

Diana
Washington Valdez

An organization that investigates government corruption posted on its website Friday claims that Islamic terrorist groups are operating in Juárez and plan to attack the United States with car bombs and other explosives.
U.S. officials quickly rejected the claims.
Chris Farrell, investigations director for Judicial Watch, based in Washington, D.C., said in an interview that the nonprofit posted the information after several law enforcement officers shared the intelligence and expressed concerns about what they are seeing. Judicial Watch sources alleged that the militant group Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is operating in Juárez.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, including the Border Patrol, responded to the alleged threat with a statement; "At present, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are unaware of any specific, credible threat to the U.S. homeland from ISIL (or ISIS). ..Plainly, however, violent extremists who support ISIL have demonstrated the intent and capability to target American citizens overseas, and ISIL constitutes an active and serious threat within the region.
"At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security is mindful of the potential for homegrown violent extremism inspired by radical ideology overseas, and, both through law enforcement and community outreach, we are taking steps to counter that potential threat."
A spokeswoman for the FBI in El Paso said the FBI is aware of the Judicial Watch report and is looking into it.
A U.S. State Department spokeswoman, who spoke on background only, said "We've been looking into this all day, and did not find anything."
Farrell said that the Texas Department of Public Safety communicated information about the alleged threat to law enforcement officers.
"The intelligence comes from credible sources, and there are concerns because of the threat levels associated with terrorist groups that are being discussed, and the upcoming anniversary of the 9-11 attacks against the United States," said Farrell, a former U.S. military intelligence officer. "They are hitting the streets, and are tripling efforts to stay on top of these threats."
Tom Vinger, spokesman for the Texas DPS in Austin, said that the law enforcement agency had no information related to the Judicial Watch article.
In recent weeks, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has stated in widely reported speeches that ISIS terrorists could have sneaked across the U.S.-Mexico border, but without offering proof that the Islamic group was actively operating in the border region.
Judicial Watch said intelligence officials "picked up radio talk and chatter indicating that the terrorist groups about an attack on the border by groups like ISIS or Al Qaeda. "An attack is so imminent that the commanding general at Ft. Bliss, the U.S. Army post in El Paso, is being briefed, another source confirms," Judicial Watch said.
Lt. Col. Lee Peters, a spokesman for Fort Bliss, said, "We continuously work with local and federal law enforcement agencies to assess threat levels in El Paso and can adjust our security measures based on these assessments."
Farrell said he stood by the intelligence compiled by Judicial Watch in the online alert, which is at URL:http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/imminent-terrorist-attack-warning-feds-us-border/
Diana Washington Valdez may be reached at 54606140.y: Bill Melugin
EL PASO, Texas - A newly released report from a government watchdog group alleges that ISIS terrorists are operating in Ciudad Juarez and are planning a terrorist attack on the United States with car bombs.
Judicial Watch says the information was confirmed to them by high level law-enforcement and intelligence officials.
The report states that intelligence officials have picked up radio talk and chatter indicating that the terrorist groups are going to "carry an attack out on the border" and that "it's coming very soon."
Judicial Watch writes that their sources say the attacks are so imminent, that Homeland  Security, Justice, and Defense agencies have all been placed on alert, and that the commanding general at Fort Bliss is in the process of being briefed.
KFOX14 contacted Fort Bliss for a response.
"I am aware of the article and we take threats against Fort Bliss seriously," says Lt. Col. Lee Peters, a Fort Bliss spokesman. "Therefore, we continuously work with local and federal law enforcement agencies to assess threat levels in El Paso and can adjust our security measures based on these assessments. I am not sure of the validity of the article, but vigilance and preparedness are keys to maintaining a safe and secure installation."
The United States Department of Homeland Security also tells KFOX14 "The DHS and the FBI are unaware of any specific, credible threat to the U.S. homeland from ISIL."
Read the full Judicial Watch report here: http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/imminent-terrorist-attack-warning-feds-us-border/
 

[joeecho]

Really? So soon? But I have not had my breakfast yet.


http://craphound.com/images/terroralertcereal.jpg

[linksplatinum]

If this is real, the cabal is telling everyone, where, and how it will happen. It sounds to me like it's time to lock down the borders, get a few Abrahms tanks, Black Hawks, some snipers, Militia, National Guard, and keep a close eye out for any suspicious activities.

[linksplatinum]

My assumption, since this info has been brought out by the FED, it is probably a crock of sh*t, or the makings of a FF of the border area...

stay vigilant

[Snowflower]

Gee, it's amazing how such a militant, radical, religious organization of US haters was able to spring up out of thin air in record time and establish itself worldwide, most especially within and surrounding the "homeland," from the ravaged remains of a war-torn, third world country on the other side of the planet, and become a credible threat!

[sirdipswitch]

You know if it was anywhere but Ciudad, I might find this just a "bit" credible. However, what do you suppose those Mexican Drug War Lords would do if a bunch of Islamic extremists hit the streets in their neighborhood???

Eveidently, whoever thought up this FF, doesn't understand how "territorial", those Mexican Bandits are??!!

[Heartsong]

You know if it was anywhere but Ciudad, I might find this just a "bit" credible. However, what do you suppose those Mexican Drug War Lords would do if a bunch of Islamic extremists hit the streets in their neighborhood???

Eveidently, whoever thought up this FF, doesn't understand how "territorial", those Mexican Bandits are??!!

The Mexican drug lords are all about money and power. ISIS has money and can promise power. It would be like an alignment of two Mafia families, if everybody cooperates, everybody profits.

[provolon]

I am in ciudad juarez as I type

[seko]

You know if it was anywhere but Ciudad, I might find this just a "bit" credible. However, what do you suppose those Mexican Drug War Lords would do if a bunch of Islamic extremists hit the streets in their neighborhood???

Eveidently, whoever thought up this FF, doesn't understand how "territorial", those Mexican Bandits are??!!

The Mexican drug lords are all about money and power. ISIS has money and can promise power. It would be like an alignment of two Mafia families, if everybody cooperates, everybody profits.

I don't think this story is true. It is just fear porn, like most of these stories about the bearded cave men that came to attack the U.S.

The mexican drug lords as they are called, the last thing that they need or want is to share the money and power that they have in this country with people from another country and to try to cause chaos in the place where they make most of their $$$$ which is the USA. :doh:

Plus we know that the mexican drug lords are helped by the american alfabet agencies and the mexican government.

[joeecho]

I don't think this story is true.


Don't worry, psyops will make it 'true' if they can help it.........

[sirdipswitch]

I am in ciudad juarez as I type


Cool!!! What's your take on this? Any talk on the street? Are the Drug Lords as bad as we hear, or is it all just more of the same old BS they try to shove down our throat???

[Snowflower]

Ciudad Juarez is a BIG place. There could be mind boggling drug wars, terrorist cells, and all manner of sex slavery going on below the surface and 99% of the people would know nothing about it. It's just plain silly of the US Gov to suggest they can say, "there's nothing to this," rumor. What are they Omnipotent, All-Seeing God? Idiots.

[korgh]

Well, these ISIS/ISIL people are totally insanes but worst than them are the mexican drug dealers.. Maybe they could "clean" those fanatics for the good sake of the world.

[Camilo]

"The Project Avalon Forum, chronicles of the human awakening, were science and spirituality meet"

[korgh]

"The Project Avalon Forum, chronicles of the human awakening, were science and spirituality meet"

I cannot say it better.. its true but there is no science or spirituality where the inhumanity, slavery and barbarism is carried against anyone who is on the pathway of these creatures.
Days ago, i did some queries on the net about who are those people (ISIS/ISIL) and obviously "google" had blocked some results so i made some tweaks and i found a forum somewhere in Iraq. I was shocked when my query results was straight for ISIL militants and after read and see what they can really do. I don't understand arab (google translator helps) and is very scary what i found there. They are insane.
The domain of forum is also strange. Take a look:


Registrant Contact Information:
Name: Haneen Al-Araby
City: bani swif
State: none
Zip: 322907
Country: EG
Phone: +1.2234556456
Email: Email Masking Image@gmail.com

Administrative Contact Information:
Name: Haneen Al-Araby
City: bani swif
State: none
Zip: 322907
Country: EG
Phone: +1.2234556456
Email: Email Masking Image@gmail.com

Technical Contact Information:
Name: Haneen Al-Araby
City: bani swif
State: none
Zip: 322907
Country: EG
Phone: +1.2234556456
Email: Email Masking Image@gmail.com

Billing Contact Information:
Name: Haneen Al-Araby
City: bani swif
State: none
Zip: 322907
Country: EG
Phone: +1.2234556456
Email: Email Masking Image@gmail.com


Information Updated: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 01:02:09 UTC So, is not necessary to say more.

I don't recommend visit that site and i will not publish the web address here.
Avalon forum is a place to share, discuss and grow together with respect and friendship but i don't want to make any sort of publicity for them and their "cause" .
I'm sorry if my last post was not politically correct.
Cheers and peace.

Korgh

[marlowe]

The covert origins of ISIS.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI

[Frederick Jackson]

You know if it was anywhere but Ciudad, I might find this just a "bit" credible. However, what do you suppose those Mexican Drug War Lords would do if a bunch of Islamic extremists hit the streets in their neighborhood???

Eveidently, whoever thought up this FF, doesn't understand how "territorial", those Mexican Bandits are??!!

You bet, especially as Arabs have lousy Spanish accents, or so I was told me a few years back by a Mexican friend here in Puerto Vallarta.:wave:

But on the other hand, all the chaos there might favor them. So, dunno.

[jagman]

I just heard a news report on FOX that the Vatican is on High Alert!
Apparently ISIS was plotting to kill the Pontiff! If you find a link
please feel free to post it.

[thunder24]

fox what? shouldn't you be able to find a link if its on fox?

[jagman]

fox what? shouldn't you be able to find a link if its on fox?

It sometimes takes me a few hours before I can find it on fox
but i'm sure it's all over the news.

[jagman]

If ISIS did plot to kill the Pope? IMO, Thats a bad Mistake on ISIS part!
They just threatened "Peter The Romans" life! The one who will usher
in the Antichrist! (According to the Prophecy) The Next Blood Moon is
Oct, 7-8th 2014.

[thunder24]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/08/29/nr-john-allen-isis-targeting-pope-francis.cnn.html

[ghostrider]

The time when a pope no longer resides in Rome is the kickoff for the Enoch prophecies ... then religion implodes on itself ... if they kill the pope it could trigger events that we don't want to see ... couple weeks ago three of his family members were killed in a car crash ...http://video.foxnews.com/v/3738106214001/pope-francis-family-members-killed-in-car-crash/#sp=show-clips

[sigma6]

The time when a pope no longer resides in Rome is the kickoff for the Enoch prophecies ... then religion implodes on itself ... if they kill the pope it could trigger events that we don't want to see ... couple weeks ago three of his family members were killed in a car crash ...http://video.foxnews.com/v/3738106214001/pope-francis-family-members-killed-in-car-crash/#sp=show-clips

OK, that makes more sense, otherwise I would have figured the Vatican is behind ISIS to begin with ... the public threat makes no sense, wheres the connection? Other than misdirection. On the other hand if family members were killed then maybe there really is a power struggle going on in the Vatican? (Or... he is the most diabolical bastard to become Pope, or the most unlikeliest of all is that it was purely random (NOT!)

Therefore, given the most likeliest option (#1) i.e. Satanic Mafia interests that are getting cleaned out of the sewers are the "faction" that is behind the "Pope threat" is them really trying to telegraph their intention thru the media... so that if and when he gets taken out, they can blame it on the Muslims. So who would be the most satanic evil mafia.

Apparently they are connected in some way with and controlling the media production behind the fake ISIS campaign, who are part of the fake beheading episode complete with the sister who also showed up in the Newtown massacre as the friend of the fake lone gunman student who got shot with his mom...

i.e. it may very well be the Bush backed Nazi pedophiles who must be taking aim at the Pope for... trying to clean out satanic mafia interests from the church? (How dare he!... I can probably hear them saying)

Even I don't think the most extreme faction of "Muslim Terrorists" is going to publicly state they want to kill the Pope, that would just make them lose popularity and look cheesy (as in low budget cheesy movie production script)

[yelik]

"ISIL - A Completely Fabricated Enemy By US", former CIA Contractor

http://www.stage2omega.com/isil-completely-fabricated-enemy-by-usa-former-cia-contractor/

[Roisin]

This current pope has to watch his back from every angle and he has to do that even when taking a leisurely stroll down the great halls of the Vatican because he has enemies there too. How Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina became pope in the first place is a big mystery to me and, quite frankly, I'm not ruling out divine intervention. Does that sound implausible? I think not because if one believes in the notion that Satan has infiltrated the Church which we all know is certainly the case, then this suggests that there are opposing forces that exist too and they are the ones that got him elected to that position.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pope Francis' enemies concocted this story about ISIS targeting him, perhaps to give them a cover for their own plans to get rid of him. IOW's, the real threat on this Popes life has its roots deep within the Vatican itself.

[Roisin]

Vatican Addresses Report Saying Pope Francis Is An ISIS Target
Posted: 08/27/2014 2:49 pm EDT Updated: 08/27/2014 5:59 pm EDT


The Vatican is speaking out against a claim that Pope Francis is a target of the Islamic State militant group, otherwise known as ISIS.

In an article published Monday, Italy's Il Tempo newspaper reported that the pope is a target of ISIS. The paper, citing an unnamed Italian intelligence source, states the pope -- who is considered the "bearer of false truths" by the group -- is "in the crosshairs of ISIS" and that the extremist group plans to "raise the level of confrontation" by attacking Italy and greater Europe.

However, the Vatican has dismissed the report.

“There is nothing serious to this," spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi S.J. told Catholic News Agency. "There is no particular concern in the Vatican. This news has no foundation."

ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who is behind the group's offense to overtake large regions of Iraq and Syria in an effort to establish its own Islamic State, issued a threat against Rome earlier this summer, near the start of Ramadan.

"Rush O Muslims to your state. It is your state. Syria is not for Syrians and Iraq is not for Iraqis. The land is for the Muslims, all Muslims," he said in an audio recording posted online and reported by the Telegraph. "This is my advice to you. If you hold to it you will conquer Rome and own the world, if Allah wills."

Earlier this month, ISIS took control of Iraq's largest Christian city, CNN reported. At the time, the pontiff expressed concern for Christians in the region.

While he has not endorsed American airstrikes against the group, Pope Francis has said ISIS must be stopped.

"I can only say this: It is licit to stop the unjust aggressor. I underline the verb: stop. I do not say bomb, make war, I say stop by some means," he said during a press conference last week, according to CNN. Adding: "It is there that this should be discussed. Is there an unjust aggressor? It would seem there is. How do we stop him?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/27/pope-francis-isis-target_n_5723712.html

[Matt P]

No one should ever listen to or share anything published by FOX (666) "news." Neither should anyone take anything at face value published by the Vatican. They are even bigger liars than FOX.

Matt

[jagman]

No one should ever listen to or share anything published by FOX (666) "news." Neither should anyone take anything at face value published by the Vatican. They are even bigger liars than FOX.

Matt

Matt, I have a wide range of sources which I use to collect and
gather info.I know some of you dont like fox and other mainstream
outlets but IMO it's good for piecing the puzzle together,So to speak

[jagman]

This current pope has to watch his back from every angle and he has to do that even when taking a leisurely stroll down the great halls of the Vatican because he has enemies there too. How Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina became pope in the first place is a big mystery to me and, quite frankly, I'm not ruling out divine intervention. Does that sound implausible? I think not because if one believes in the notion that Satan has infiltrated the Church which we all know is certainly the case, then this suggests that there are opposing forces that exist too and they are the ones that got him elected to that position.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pope Francis' enemies concocted this story about ISIS targeting him, perhaps to give them a cover for their own plans to get rid of him. IOW's, the real threat on this Popes life has its roots deep within the Vatican itself.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, If he really is "Petrus Romanus"
He does possess supernatural abilities! It's been stated that he can cal down bolts
of lightning!

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO4NhB80tds

"Published on 2 Sep 2014"

Lebanese Girl explains the whole background.
One of the most important battles was in 2007.
ISIS, ISIL, Al-Nusra, Al Quaeda are all the same.

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUb50smUEg

"Published on 3 Sep 2014
Another Balkans style round up of all religious ****wits frighting for the Abrahamic demon.

Swiss christians fighting in Syria
Part of channel(s): Syria (current event)

More and more christians from Switzerland have begun to go to Syria to protect the christian villages alongside the SAA and fight the IS terrorists. The video is in Italian so it would be great if an Italian LiveLeaker could give us a brief summary about what they are exactly saying there.

It has been revealed that Christian militants in Switzerland are traveling to the Middle-East to fight for Christians in Iraq and Syria.

Germany’s Focus magazine ran an article titled ‘Christian Union against Terrorism’ which claimed that so far at least 10 Christians have gone to Iraq to fight.

The article, which cites Switzerland’s Sonntags Zeitung newspaper, said that money is also being collected in the country to support the Christian militants who trained in secret camps.

In the past two years, Syriac Christians in Switzerland have raised as much as 200,000 Franks, according to Focus. The Syriac Military Council in northern Syria have also reportedly accepted the Christian Union militants from Switzerland into their midst.

SVP politician Lukas Reimann warned that those who are participating in the war in the Middle-East are in breach of Swiss law.

Source: thebosniatimes"

[Camilo]

Middle East Time Bomb: The Real Aim of ISIS Is to Replace the Saud Family as the New Emirs of Arabia

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-aim-saudi-arabia_b_5748744.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

BEIRUT -- ISIS is indeed a veritable time bomb inserted into the heart of the Middle East. But its destructive power is not as commonly understood. It is not with the "March of the Beheaders"; it is not with the killings; the seizure of towns and villages; the harshest of "justice" -- terrible though they are -- that its true explosive power lies. It is yet more potent than its exponential pull on young Muslims, its huge arsenal of weapons and its hundreds of millions of dollars.
"We should understand that there is really almost nothing that the West can now do about it but sit and watch."

Its real potential for destruction lies elsewhere -- in the implosion of Saudi Arabia as a foundation stone of the modern Middle East. We should understand that there is really almost nothing that the West can now do about it but sit and watch.

The clue to its truly explosive potential, as Saudi scholar Fouad Ibrahim has pointed out (but which has passed, almost wholly overlooked, or its significance has gone unnoticed), is ISIS' deliberate and intentional use in its doctrine -- of the language of Abd-al Wahhab, the 18th century founder, together with Ibn Saud, of Wahhabism and the Saudi project:

Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, the first "prince of the faithful" in the Islamic State of Iraq, in 2006 formulated, for instance, the principles of his prospective state ... Among its goals is disseminating monotheism "which is the purpose [for which humans were created] and [for which purpose they must be called] to Islam..." This language replicates exactly Abd-al Wahhab's formulation. And, not surprisingly, the latter's writings and Wahhabi commentaries on his works are widely distributed in the areas under ISIS' control and are made the subject of study sessions. Baghdadi subsequently was to note approvingly, "a generation of young men [have been] trained based on the forgotten doctrine of loyalty and disavowal."

And what is this "forgotten" tradition of "loyalty and disavowal?" It is Abd al-Wahhab's doctrine that belief in a sole (for him an anthropomorphic) God -- who was alone worthy of worship -- was in itself insufficient to render man or woman a Muslim?

He or she could be no true believer, unless additionally, he or she actively denied (and destroyed) any other subject of worship. The list of such potential subjects of idolatrous worship, which al-Wahhab condemned as idolatry, was so extensive that almost all Muslims were at risk of falling under his definition of "unbelievers." They therefore faced a choice: Either they convert to al-Wahhab's vision of Islam -- or be killed, and their wives, their children and physical property taken as the spoils of jihad. Even to express doubts about this doctrine, al-Wahhab said, should occasion execution.
"Through its intentional adoption of this Wahhabist language, ISIS is knowingly lighting the fuse to a bigger regional explosion -- one that has a very real possibility of being ignited, and if it should succeed, will change the Middle East decisively."

The point Fuad Ibrahim is making, I believe, is not merely to reemphasize the extreme reductionism of al-Wahhab's vision, but to hint at something entirely different: That through its intentional adoption of this Wahhabist language, ISIS is knowingly lighting the fuse to a bigger regional explosion -- one that has a very real possibility of being ignited, and if it should succeed, will change the Middle East decisively.

For it was precisely this idealistic, puritan, proselytizing formulation by al-Wahhab that was "father" to the entire Saudi "project" (one that was violently suppressed by the Ottomans in 1818, but spectacularly resurrected in the 1920s, to become the Saudi Kingdom that we know today). But since its renaissance in the 1920s, the Saudi project has always carried within it, the "gene" of its own self-destruction.

THE SAUDI TAIL HAS WAGGED BRITAIN AND U.S. IN THE MIDDLE EAST

Paradoxically, it was a maverick British official, who helped embed the gene into the new state. The British official attached to Aziz, was one Harry St. John Philby (the father of the MI6 officer who spied for the Soviet KGB, Kim Philby). He was to become King Abd al-Aziz's close adviser, having resigned as a British official, and was until his death, a key member of the Ruler's Court. He, like Lawrence of Arabia, was an Arabist. He was also a convert to Wahhabi Islam and known as Sheikh Abdullah.

St. John Philby was a man on the make: he had determined to make his friend, Abd al-Aziz, the ruler of Arabia. Indeed, it is clear that in furthering this ambition he was not acting on official instructions. When, for example, he encouraged King Aziz to expand in northern Nejd, he was ordered to desist. But (as American author, Stephen Schwartz notes), Aziz was well aware that Britain had pledged repeatedly that the defeat of the Ottomans would produce an Arab state, and this no doubt, encouraged Philby and Aziz to aspire to the latter becoming its new ruler.

It is not clear exactly what passed between Philby and the Ruler (the details seem somehow to have been suppressed), but it would appear that Philby's vision was not confined to state-building in the conventional way, but rather was one of transforming the wider Islamic ummah (or community of believers) into a Wahhabist instrument that would entrench the al-Saud as Arabia's leaders. And for this to happen, Aziz needed to win British acquiescence (and much later, American endorsement). "This was the gambit that Abd al-Aziz made his own, with advice from Philby," notes Schwartz.

BRITISH GODFATHER OF SAUDI ARABIA

In a sense, Philby may be said to be "godfather" to this momentous pact by which the Saudi leadership would use its clout to "manage" Sunni Islam on behalf of western objectives (containing socialism, Ba'athism, Nasserism, Soviet influence, Iran, etc.) -- and in return, the West would acquiesce to Saudi Arabia's soft-power Wahhabisation of the Islamic ummah (with its concomitant destruction of Islam's intellectual traditions and diversity and its sowing of deep divisions within the Muslim world).
"In political and financial terms, the Saud-Philby strategy has been an astonishing success. But it was always rooted in British and American intellectual obtuseness: the refusal to see the dangerous 'gene' within the Wahhabist project, its latent potential to mutate, at any time, back into its original a bloody, puritan strain. In any event, this has just happened: ISIS is it."

As a result -- from then until now -- British and American policy has been bound to Saudi aims (as tightly as to their own ones), and has been heavily dependent on Saudi Arabia for direction in pursuing its course in the Middle East.

In political and financial terms, the Saud-Philby strategy has been an astonishing success (if taken on its own, cynical, self-serving terms). But it was always rooted in British and American intellectual obtuseness: the refusal to see the dangerous "gene" within the Wahhabist project, its latent potential to mutate, at any time, back into its original a bloody, puritan strain. In any event, this has just happened: ISIS is it.

Winning western endorsement (and continued western endorsement), however, required a change of mode: the "project" had to change from being an armed, proselytizing Islamic vanguard movement into something resembling statecraft. This was never going to be easy because of the inherent contradictions involved (puritan morality versus realpolitik and money) -- and as time has progressed, the problems of accommodating the "modernity" that statehood requires, has caused "the gene" to become more active, rather than become more inert.

Even Abd al-Aziz himself faced an allergic reaction: in the form of a serious rebellion from his own Wahhabi militia, the Saudi Ikhwan. When the expansion of control by the Ikhwan reached the border of territories controlled by Britain, Abd al-Aziz tried to restrain his militia (Philby was urging him to seek British patronage), but the Ikwhan, already critical of his use of modern technology (the telephone, telegraph and the machine gun), "were outraged by the abandonment of jihad for reasons of worldly realpolitik ... They refused to lay down their weapons; and instead rebelled against their king ... After a series of bloody clashes, they were crushed in 1929. Ikhwan members who had remained loyal, were later absorbed into the [Saudi] National Guard."

King Aziz's son and heir, Saud, faced a different form of reaction (less bloody, but more effective). Aziz's son was deposed from the throne by the religious establishment -- in favor of his brother Faisal -- because of his ostentatious and extravagant conduct. His lavish, ostentatious style, offended the religious establishment who expected the "Imam of Muslims," to pursue a pious, proselytizing lifestyle.

King Faisal, Saud's successor, in his turn, was shot by his nephew in 1975, who had appeared at Court ostensibly to make his oath of allegiance, but who instead, pulled out a pistol and shot the king in his head. The nephew had been perturbed by the encroachment of western beliefs and innovation into Wahhabi society, to the detriment of the original ideals of the Wahhabist project.

SEIZING THE GRAND MOSQUE IN 1979

Far more serious, however, was the revived Ikhwan of Juhayman al-Otaybi, which culminated in the seizure of the Grand Mosque by some 400-500 armed men and women in 1979. Juhayman was from the influential Otaybi tribe from the Nejd, which had led and been a principal element in the original Ikhwan of the 1920s.

Juhayman and his followers, many of whom came from the Medina seminary, had the tacit support, amongst other clerics, of Sheikh Abdel-Aziz Bin Baz, the former Mufti of Saudi Arabia. Juhayman stated that Sheikh Bin Baz never objected to his Ikhwan teachings (which were also critical of ulema laxity towards "disbelief"), but that bin Baz had blamed him mostly for harking on that "the ruling al-Saud dynasty had lost its legitimacy because it was corrupt, ostentatious and had destroyed Saudi culture by an aggressive policy of westernisation."

Significantly, Juhayman's followers preached their Ikhwani message in a number of mosques in Saudi Arabia initially without being arrested, but when Juhayman and a number of the Ikhwan finally were held for questioning in 1978. Members of the ulema (including bin Baz) cross-examined them for heresy, but then ordered their release because they saw them as being no more than traditionalists harkening back to the Ikhwan-- like Juhayman grandfather -- and therefore not a threat.

Even when the mosque seizure was defeated and over, a certain level of forbearance by the ulema for the rebels remained. When the government asked for a fatwa allowing for armed force to be used in the mosque, the language of bin Baz and other senior ulema was curiously restrained. The scholars did not declare Juhayman and his followers non-Muslims, despite their violation of the sanctity of the Grand Mosque, but only termed them al-jamaah al-musallahah (the armed group).

Because of donations from wealthy followers, the group had been well-armed and trained. Some members, like Juhayman, were former military officials of the Saudi National Guard. Some National Guard troops sympathetic to the insurgents smuggled weapons, ammunition, gas masks, and provisions into the mosque compound over a period of weeks before the attack, including automatic weapons smuggled from National Guard armories and hidden in rooms under the mosque that were used as hermitages.

ISIS VS. WESTERNIZED SAUDIS

The point of rehearsing this history is to underline how uneasy the Saudi leadership must be at the rise of ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Previous Ikhwani manifestations were suppressed -- but these all occurred inside the kingdom.

ISIS however, is a neo-Ikhwani rejectionist protest that is taking place outside the kingdom -- and which, moreover, follows the Juhayman dissidence in its trenchant criticism of the al-Saud ruling family.

This is the deep schism we see today in Saudi Arabia, between the modernizing current of which King Abdullah is a part, and the "Juhayman" orientation of which bin Laden, and the Saudi supporters of ISIS and the Saudi religious establishment are a part. It is also a schism that exists within the Saudi royal family itself.

According to the Saudi-owned Al-Hayat newspaper, in July 2014 "an opinion poll of Saudis [was] released on social networking sites, claiming that 92 percent of the target group believes that 'IS conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.'" The leading Saudi commentator, Jamal Khashoggi, recently warned of ISIS' Saudi supporters who "watch from the shadows."

There are angry youths with a skewed mentality and understanding of life and sharia, and they are canceling a heritage of centuries and the supposed gains of a modernization that hasn't been completed. They turned into rebels, emirs and a caliph invading a vast area of our land. They are hijacking our children's minds and canceling borders. They reject all rules and legislations, throwing it [a]way ... for their vision of politics, governance, life, society and economy. [For] the citizens of the self-declared "commander of the faithful," or Caliph, you have no other choice ... They don't care if you stand out among your people and if you are an educated man, or a lecturer, or a tribe leader, or a religious leader, or an active politician or even a judge ... You must obey the commander of the faithful and pledge the oath of allegiance to him. When their policies are questioned, Abu Obedia al-Jazrawi yells, saying: "Shut up. Our reference is the book and the Sunnah and that's it."

"What did we do wrong?" Khashoggi asks. With 3,000-4,000 Saudi fighters in the Islamic State today, he advises of the need to "look inward to explain ISIS' rise". Maybe it is time, he says, to admit "our political mistakes," to "correct the mistakes of our predecessors."

MODERNIZING KING THE MOST VULNERABLE

The present Saudi king, Abdullah, paradoxically is all the more vulnerable precisely because he has been a modernizer. The King has curbed the influence of the religious institutions and the religious police -- and importantly has permitted the four Sunni schools of jurisprudence to be used, by those who adhere to them (al-Wahhab, by contrast, objected to all other schools of jurisprudence other than his own).
"The key political question is whether the simple fact of ISIS' successes, and the full manifestation (flowering) of all the original pieties and vanguardism of the archetypal impulse, will stimulate and activate the dissenter 'gene' -- within the Saudi kingdom. If it does, and Saudi Arabia is engulfed by the ISIS fervor, the Gulf will never be the same again. Saudi Arabia will deconstruct and the Middle East will be unrecognizable."

It is even possible too for Shiite residents of eastern Saudi Arabia to invoke Ja'afri jurisprudence and to turn to Ja'afari Shiite clerics for rulings. (In clear contrast, al-Wahhab held a particular animosity towards the Shiite and held them to be apostates. As recently as the 1990s, clerics such as bin Baz -- the former Mufti -- and Abdullah Jibrin reiterated the customary view that the Shiite were infidels).

Some contemporary Saudi ulema would regard such reforms as constituting almost a provocation against Wahhabist doctrines, or at the very least, another example of westernization. ISIS, for example, regards any who seek jurisdiction other than that offered by the Islamic State itself to be guilty of disbelief -- since all such "other" jurisdictions embody innovation or "borrowings" from other cultures in its view.

The key political question is whether the simple fact of ISIS' successes, and the full manifestation (flowering) of all the original pieties and vanguardism of the archetypal impulse, will stimulate and activate the dissenter 'gene' -- within the Saudi kingdom.

If it does, and Saudi Arabia is engulfed by the ISIS fervor, the Gulf will never be the same again. Saudi Arabia will deconstruct and the Middle East will be unrecognizable.
"They hold up a mirror to Saudi society that seems to reflect back to them an image of 'purity' lost"

In short, this is the nature of the time bomb tossed into the Middle East. The ISIS allusions to Abd al-Wahhab and Juhayman (whose dissident writings are circulated within ISIS) present a powerful provocation: they hold up a mirror to Saudi society that seems to reflect back to them an image of "purity" lost and early beliefs and certainties displaced by shows of wealth and indulgence.

This is the ISIS "bomb" hurled into Saudi society. King Abdullah -- and his reforms -- are popular, and perhaps he can contain a new outbreak of Ikwhani dissidence. But will that option remain a possibility after his death?

And here is the difficulty with evolving U.S. policy, which seems to be one of "leading from behind" again -- and looking to Sunni states and communities to coalesce in the fight against ISIS (as in Iraq with the Awakening Councils).

It is a strategy that seems highly implausible. Who would want to insert themselves into this sensitive intra-Saudi rift? And would concerted Sunni attacks on ISIS make King Abdullah's situation better, or might it inflame and anger domestic Saudi dissidence even further? So whom precisely does ISIS threaten? It could not be clearer. It does not directly threaten the West (though westerners should remain wary, and not tread on this particular scorpion).

The Saudi Ikhwani history is plain: As Ibn Saud and Abd al-Wahhab made it such in the 18th century; and as the Saudi Ikhwan made it such in the 20th century. ISIS' real target must be the Hijaz -- the seizure of Mecca and Medina -- and the legitimacy that this will confer on ISIS as the new Emirs of Arabia.

[Carmody]

Kinda reminds me of the attempt at the creation legitimacy for every single world state that has come before:

Kill and destroy all that has come before...and be brutal enough, for long enough, that enough generations pass for people to be born into it--- and think and feel of it as being the normal state of affairs.

This is shown in how North Americans feel they have a god given right and have been around 'forever'..., after the slaughter and utter destruction of the holders of the continent that came before.... and the Israelis born in modern Palestine, which they hold as 'Israel', which is merely a more recent & similar abomination.

Thus is the story of human history, for millennia.

Oligarch and sociopath games are more to the core of these origins in all of human history's violent turnovers and wholesale slaughters/oppression/maniacal states/religions.

Strike down the oligarch and the sick sociopaths, find and eliminate them, wholly and genetically.... and these nightmares will finally end.

That is why I started the 'brainscans and prisoners' thread, as that is one of if not ~the~ key doorways to ending thousands of years of violent nightmares.

[thunder24]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/gen-mcinerney-we-helped-build-isis.html


During an appearance on Fox News, General Thomas McInerney acknowledged that the United States “helped build ISIS” as a result of the group obtaining weapons from the Benghazi consulate in Libya which was attacked by jihadists in September 2012.......

....CNN subsequently reported that dozens of CIA agents were on the ground in Benghazi during the attack and that the polygraph tests were mandated in order to prevent operatives from talking to Congress or the media about a program that revolved around “secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.” Key Syrian rebel leaders later defected to join ISIS.
In addition to ISIS obtaining weapons from Benghazi, many members of the group were also trained by the United States at a secret base in Jordan in 2012.


...As we have previously documented, many of the United States’ biggest allies in the region, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey and Qatar, have all bankrolled and armed ISIS militants.

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[jagman]

I'm calling BS on this one! The real aim of ISIS is to establish an Islamic Caliphate to
take over and impose Sharia Law.

[turiya]

RED ICE INTERVIEWS PATRICK HENNINGSEN
ISIS & ISRAEL'S STRATEGY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JYLlxCnRQ

Henrik: How have you viewed ISIS since it emerged only really a few months ago on the media's radar of what this is about, and who's behind it, Patrick?

Patrick Henningsen: I've been following ISIS long before it has hit the headlines. Recently, of course, with the Islamic State of Iraq in the Levant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant) in Syria as part of the so-called "Opposition", fighting against the Syrian government alongside the FSA. But its important that people understand, particularly since this ISIS issue is getting wall-to-wall coverage in the U.S. media. I mean, it will not turn itself off on any of the news channels, be it CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, which are just banging on about ISIS... That ISIS is targeting the Pope, they said today. ISIS wants Lady al Qaeda (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/26/lady_al_qaeda_the_worlds_most_wanted_woman) freed from a US jail. ISIS is coming to America to attack Americans. So, they are really ramping-up the fear. But it doesn't have the emotional hold that al Qaeda had after 911, obviously, because there hasn't been any US-based terror attack or tragedy as part of the story.

So, where does ISIS come from?
Right now, if you've listened to the US State Department, or if you've listen to the Pentagon spokespeople, like Rear Admiral Kirby (http://www.enewspf.com/latest-news/latest-national/military-casualties/55130-department-of-defense-press-briefing-by-rear-adm-kirby-september-2-2014.html)or Anderson Cooper on CNN, or Wolf Blitzer, they will have you think that ISIS somehow sprung out of Syria. That is not true.

ISIS essentially, the elements of ISIS, have come from two places.
The first is Irag before the Syrian civil war. The second is Libya. So, if we look back at Libya, when we saw the black al Qaeda flags flying over the courthouse in Benghazi in 2011 & 2012, that is essentially the first kind of sighting of that kind of group. And we also saw the same flags flying in places in Iraq.

So, what happened?
NATO basically allied itself with jihadist groups in order to overthrow the Gaddafi government. And, one in particular leader & organizer that they had employed & his name was Abdel Hakim Belhaj (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhakim_Belhadj) who happened to be detained in Guantanamo Bay for a number of years. Somehow, for unknown reasons released, appears in Libya at the perfect time of the downfall of Gaddafi. And now, he's the governor of Tripoli who was also organizing the recruitment of fighters to transfer to Syria in 2012.

Here's another one, named Airat Vakhitov (http://detainees.mcclatchydc.com/detainees/30) who was from Chechnya, he was also interned in Guantanamo Bay at the same time as Bekhadj, he was then released. And he is leading fighting force in Syria, very extremist Islamic fighting forces, I might add.

So, you can kind of see these are the roots of ISIS. And in addition, we have a group called Front Victory [Front victory for the Syrian people (http://www.beiruttimes.com/en/articledetailes.php?id=350)] , who was operating as a part of the insurgency in Iraq, and I believe receiving funding probably from Saudi Arabia. And they also were moved into Syria in 2012 & 2013. So, you have this kind of movement from Libya from Iraq, as part of the insurgency, and then moved into Syria as the civil war began. The US has turned a "blind eye" to just about everything going on with Islamic fighters in Syria, because they believe it helped to mitigate the Asad government & the Syrian army's efforts to quell the opposition. So basically, they turned a blind, they turned a blind eye to terrorists - young kids coming from Europe and US or further afield - easily track-able. They have every ability to know where these kids are coming from & where they're heading. But they turned a 'blind eye' because they saw this as part of the effort for regime change in Syria. So again, allowing this thing to build up.

And so, we have the consolidation of the al-Nusra Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front), that is a Saudi Arabian Prince Bandar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan) definitely had, I believe, full control & financial control over the al-Nusra Front. They consolidated a number of terror groups into a bigger al-Nusra Front operating in Syria. And splinter groups were broken off, people moved from one group to another, maybe one group paid more than another.

So you had this movement. Everybody - most of them are getting paid from the officer level up, $50 a month up to $2000 if you're a general or co-odinator. And all these salaries are being paid for by Saudi Arabian financial sources & Qatar financial sources. So, that emirate, along with Saudi Arabia, are basically funding the ISIS Crisis. So you could the whole thing in about fourteen days if you were to cut off funding. Both of those countries are allies of the United States & Great Britain. The United States has its central command & control based in Doha, Qatar & also the 6th Fleet based in Doha.


http://www.madhyamam.com/en/sites/default/files/imagecache/w604/qatar%20map%201.gif

So, its not that we don't have very deep ties with the country of Qatar. And of course, I don't need to tell you about U.S. & British ties to Saudi Arabia & how deep those go on the political & economic level. So, its not as if we don't have some influence, but we are allowing this to happen.

And you have to be skeptical of the ISIS Crisis. I mean, back in the 1980s, the open recruitment at various U.S. cities were mujahideen to go to Afghanistan to fight. That was common. You had recruitment centers in places Tuscon, Arizona & places like Seattle, Washington. This was back in the 80's. So this thing has happened with ISIS around Europe, but the recruitment is done a little more under the radar through mosques & through other assorted Islamic community groups. And also with most - absolutely, more than likely, with the involvement of informants from the Intelligence agencies - they're all over the place in all these mosques & groups. So, you'd be very naive to think that they're not aware & don't have a visual on all this recruitment activity coming from Europe.

So, that's the picture we're looking at. And we also have the Muslim Brotherhood really stalked the ranks of what is now ISIL & ISIS between 2012 & 2013 running recruitment activities out of Egypt. They had a Muslim Brotherhood armed & active in Syria from 2010, and also working in Tunisia & Morocco. And there's alot of fighters from that recruitment drive still active in the region. You have to remember, massive unemployment throughout these Muslim countries. A university professor makes $200 per month. So, any salary from $50 to $100 a month is a good wage. And when you can pocket your wages & you can plunder your food & everything else through your conquest activities, obviously, it seems a good financial deal for alot of people.

And they use the Islamic fundamentalist fervor as the kind of 'hook' to get the soldiers involved. And, basically, the psychological profile of these fighters are two-fold. One of them will be a very disturbed - not quite all there. And all the other ones that are absolutely guns-for-hire, like a gang member, will do anything for a buck, shoot anybody for a buck. That's what you basically have - is the unstable, identity crisis, confused religious, mentally disturbed man, and the mercenary. So basically its those two.

(Alot more there in the interview)


turiya :cool:

[Snookie]

Excellent interview. I have to wonder about the guy who was detained in Guantanamo. Could he have been mind controlled, then released to do whatever he was programmed to do? It makes a person wonder what's really going on with some of these people.

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU05wKGRvZs

"Published on 13 Sep 2014
All to make us support more war on the Arabs"

[ExomatrixTV]

ISIS, The New Zionist Bogeyman!

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[Nasu]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-vows-to-split-isis-into-dozens-of-extremist,36903/

Great post. Sorry to inject a little humor, just a little... N

[ExomatrixTV]

7 Obama Lies in 100 seconds - Beyond NwoSatire ! 2M_pn-1tlDA

[Rollo]

Video where you will hear John McCain admit to being in constant communication with Isis.

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[Robin]

Two observations:

I find it interesting that this person speaks about Mainstream Media bias and that he is going to reveal what U.S. war-mongering is REALLY about

and

This person's name is John Cantlie (CAN'T LIE).




British journalist purportedly shown in IS propaganda video (http://news.yahoo.com/british-journalist-john-cantlie-purportedly-shown-video-144730045.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcew3qmidRI

By Alexander Dziadosz

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Islamic State militants fighting in Iraq and Syria released a video on Thursday that they said shows British journalist John Cantlie in captivity saying he will soon reveal "facts" about the group to counter its portrayal in Western media.

The Islamic State, which controls territory in Syria and Iraq, has already beheaded two American journalists and one British aid worker in recent weeks in what it said was reprisal for U.S. air strikes against it in Iraq.

But in the new roughly three-minute video posted on social media sites, the man identified as Cantlie appears in good health and promises to "convey some facts" in a series of "programs," suggesting there would be further installments.

"Now, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, 'He's only doing this because he's a prisoner. He's got a gun at his head and he's being forced to do this.' Right?" the man in the video, wearing an orange shirt and closely-cropped hair, says.

"Well, it's true. I am a prisoner. That I cannot deny. But seeing as I've been abandoned by my government and my fate now lies in the hands of the Islamic State, I have nothing to lose."

British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said he had heard reports of a video on social media and said authorities would look closely at any material released online.

"These videos can be very distressing for the families of the individuals involved," he told reporters during a visit to Copenhagen.

U.S. President Barack Obama has been trying to build an international coalition to destroy Islamic State, a Sunni Muslim extremist group which has exploited the chaos of Syria and Iraq to seize swathes of territory in both countries.

The United States has already carried out scores of air strikes against the group in Iraq and Obama said in a policy speech he would not hesitate to strike it in Syria as well.

In the new video, titled "Lend Me Your Ears, Messages from the British Detainee John Cantlie," the man identified as Cantlie says he was captured by the Islamic State after arriving in Syria in November 2012.

He says he worked for newspapers and magazines in Britain including the Sunday Times, the Sun and the Sunday Telegraph.

"After two disastrous and hugely unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, why is it that our governments appear so keen to get involved in yet another unwinnable conflict?" the man says in the video.

"I'm going to show you the truth behind the systems and motivation of the Islamic State, and how the Western media, the very organization I used to work for, can twist and manipulate that truth for the public back home."

Cantlie said other Western governments have negotiated for the release of their hostages but that the British and U.S. governments chose to do things differently.

"I'll show you the truth behind what happened when many European citizens were imprisoned and later released by the Islamic State, and how the British and American governments thought they could do it differently to every other European country," the man in the video says.

"They negotiated with the Islamic State and got their people home while the British and Americans were left behind," he says.

PREVIOUS CAPTURE

The United States resumed air strikes in Iraq in August for the first time since the withdrawal of the final U.S. troops from the country in 2011.

The raids followed major gains by Islamic State fighters who have seized a third of both Iraq and Syria, declared war on the West and seek to establish a caliphate in the heart of the Middle East.

The U.S. House of Representatives approved on Wednesday Obama's plan to train and arm moderate Syrian rebels in a message of support for his military campaign to "degrade and destroy" Islamic State

Britain has delivered humanitarian aid, carried out surveillance, given weapons to Kurds and promised training in Iraq. On military action, Britain supports U.S. air strikes and British Prime Minister David Cameron has repeatedly said Britain has ruled nothing out except combat troops on the ground.

Cantlie had previously been taken hostage in July, 2012 along with Dutch photographer Jeroen Oerlemans while working near the Syrian border with Turkey. They were released the same month after a group of "Free Syrian Army" fighters freed them.

Cantlie told media after his release they were threatened with death unless they converted to Islam, and both were shot and slightly wounded when they attempted to escape. He was shot in the arm, Oerlemans in the leg.

At the time, Cantlie wrote in the Sunday Times that the group of about 30 militants had been made up of different nationalities, many British and none Syrian, and that the British jihadists had treated him the most cruelly in captivity.

On Saturday, Islamic State released a video showing the beheading of British aid worker David Haines. A black-clad man in the video said another hostage, identified as Alan Henning, would be killed if Cameron continued to support the fight against Islamic State.

Thursday's video made no mention of Henning.

"Maybe I will live and maybe I will die," the man identified as Cantlie says. "But I want to take this opportunity to convey some facts that you can verify. Facts that, if you contemplate, might help preserving lives."

[jake gittes]

Instant Gaza Distractor, too. Just add MSM!

[WhiteFeather]

They try to cover all corners don't they.
Isis looked, tasted and smelled very peculiar to me when it hit the Propaganda Press and Lame Stream News circuit.
If Iraq's main resource was broccoli, then we wouldn't be in Iraq. ;)

[Robin]

:bump:

Really? Nobody is interesting in this video?

I know that this war-mongering nonsense is dragging on and people are tired of it all, but I'm surprised that this video didn't get a much attention as I though it would...

[thunder24]

Give it no energy... this does not mean ignore...

[cuitlahuac]

The involvement of the CIA, MI-6 and MOSSAD is clear, but what is not very known is the method used by those intel agencies to control people.

What kind of mental manipulation do they use to force a british mom to abandon his kids to join the ranks of ISIS in Syria to cut heads and be bombed by Obama for the profit of banksters?

This might be a mechanism:



Little girl, she's sitting on the curb, she's playing uh...with a.. jacks or something of the sort, and she's sitting on this big, beautiful city and here's a very, very nice-looking hussar uh...who rides up and says uh...officer, and he said, uh..."How are you?" and...and gives her some candy. Well, after she passes out, uh...why, he takes her across the saddle bow and takes her into the...into the big castle and there she is placed in a room remarkably like those that are in use right at this moment. Uh...there's a shining grate or something of this sort and it keeps her in a state of trance.

Well, they take her, persuade her that she is a prostitute or something like that, or they get a prostitute and they bring her in there too. And they swap those bodies and then they will send this little girl off to all of a sudden occupy or take over the body of some political uh...some queen or something of the sort someplace or another, and make a prostitute of her so that she will disgrace the king and the government will fall. And this is politics par excellence.

Uh...isn't this wild? Incredibly wild. I haven't seen this done here on earth uh...to any great extent at all. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen it done here on earth as such. I've done it, but I haven't seen it done.

http://buzzpocom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/British-Mom-Reportedly-Dumped-Her-Children-Joined-ISIS-photo-credit-Facebook.jpg

http://www.matrixfiles.com/Scientology%20Materials/Tapes&Lect/PhiladelphiaDoctorateCourseLectures%20TRANSCRIPTS/Pdc%20-%20htm/24.HTM

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Ah...anyway, could we take a homo sapiens and just simply tell him he was somebody else and make him orient and regulate and monitor the activities of the person we told him he was? Yes, to this extent, to tell this guy, drugged, to go over and get ahold of Bill and be Bill and have Bill get into the car and drive straight up to the front door.

You give it 15 minutes and you look outside and there's Bill. So just as Bill is going to get out of the car and before you have any slightest chance of doing anything else here just take this fellow and bat him around a little bit and wake him up and say, "You are still Bill, now drive down to the City Hall and apply for a marriage license. Now you are driving down, now apply for this marriage licence. Now go on down there. Now go on, walk up," and so on.

All of a sudden this fellow Bill calls you up and he says, "You know," he said, "I'm beginning to worry about my mind. You know that yesterday I applied for a marriage licence and I don't even know any girls." This was in Hollywood, and of course no Bill in Hollywood would be interested in girls.

So you want to know: Can it work - does it work? Does it exist? Is it phenomena? Boy, is it!

Now, you probably know what happened to this British mom that went head cutting jihadist, and her husband.

And France has sent them in droves!

[jackovesk]

September 20, 2014

Scandal of McCain’s Fraternization with ISIS Terrorists Breaks into Mainstream Media Headlines; All Syrian Rebel Groups Are the Same; Democrats and Republicans Join in Voting Obama’s $500 Million for Anti-Assad Butchers; #ArrestMcCain4ISIS Going Viral on Internet

This Week with Reports from Rev. Edward Pinkney in Benton Harbor, Michigan; US Senate Candidate Dan Buhrdorf in Nebraska; California 5 House Candidate James Hinton in Napa; And Massachusetts 7 House Candidate Jason Lowenthal in Cambridge.

http://tarpley.net/images/McCain_ISIS.jpg
John McCain meeting illegally in a rebel safe house with the heads of the “Free Syrian Army” in Idlib, Syria in April, 2013. In the left foreground, top al Qaeda terrorist leader Ibrahim al-Badri (aka Al-Baghdadi of ISIS, aka Caliph Ibrahim of the recently founded Islamic Empire) with whom the Senator is talking. Behind Badri is visible Brigadier General Salim Idris (with glasses), the former military chief of the FSA, who has since fled to the Gulf states after the collapse of any semblance of the FSA. (Courtesy VoltaireNet.org)


http://tarpley.net/images/john_mccain_with_isis_chief_abu_bakr_al-baghdadi_2.jpg
U.S. Senator John McCain meeting illegally in 2013 with chiefs of the Free Syrian Army (i.e. ISIS)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11tZdxDIvLY
Full Broadcast and related Images proving McCain supports Terrorists follows:


Scandal of McCain’s Fraternization with ISIS Terrorists Breaks into Mainstream Media Headlines; All Syrian Rebel Groups Are the Same; Democrats and Republicans Join in Voting Obama’s $500 Million for Anti-Assad Butchers; #ArrestMcCain4ISIS Going Viral on Internet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQXM8cYJpXw
http://tarpley.net/mccains-fraternization-with-isis-terrorists-breaks-into-mainstream-media-arrestmccain4isis-going-viral-on-internet/

[Maia Gabrial]

What would happen if those pictures were emailed to his Senate office with the words "Lie out of this one, traitor"...?

[jake gittes]

Songbird McCain's treasonous behavior in Vietnam and subsequent blocking rescue of MIA/POWs showed what kind of traitor he is. His entire political career is based on lies. Speaking out of both sides of his mouth has turned his face to rubber. He serves Israel first and foremost, probably under fear of their releasing his shameful Vietnam record and subsequent criminal behavior. He's neck-deep in treasonous acts and knows it. That's why he always looks like he's about to explode.

[Maia Gabrial]

And yet, the people keep voting for McCain. (Or not if voter fraud is involved).

Who in their right mind would want a traitor to lead them? Sooner or later the traitor will turn on them. Looks like McCain has....

[Aspen]

Can anyone recommend an alternative news site or link to update about the air strikes in Syria today? thanks

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
Just when I thought we all had perspective on what's going on and then the BIG curve ball.

chancy


Link:
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/meet-khorasan-terrorist-group-thats-180913817.html

Article:

Meet The Khorasan, The Terrorist Group That's Suddenly A Bigger Threat Than ISIS

Up until late last week, no US official had ever publicly mentioned the terrorist group known as the Khorasan. On Monday night, the US carried out unilateral airstrikes against the previously unknown group in northwest Syria.

And on Tuesday, US officials were describing the group as an imminent threat on par with or worse than the group calling itself the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL), which has been the focus of US airstrikes for more than six weeks.

The key difference between ISIS and Khorasan: US intelligence believes Khorasan poses a threat to the US and its homeland, while it believes ISIS does not currently have the capability to carry out a large-scale attack on the US homeland.

Khorasan was involved in "imminent attack plotting" against the US and its interests along with Europe, the Pentagon said Tuesday . The group has been portrayed as a collection of top Al Qaeda officials from Central Asia who have been taking advantage of the chaos in Syria to establish training camps. In a statement from the White House, US President Barack Obama called them "seasoned" Al Qaeda operatives .

"The intelligence reports indicated that the Khorasan Group was in the final stages of plans to execute major attacks against Western targets and potentially the U.S. homeland," Lt. Gen. William Mayville, the director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday.

BuzzFeed's Rosie Gray reports that Khorasan appears to have been connected to I brahim al-Asiri , the master bomb maker in Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The group is believed to be led by Muhsin al-Fadhli, a senior Al Qaeda operative and a close confidant of Osama bin Laden.

Fadhli had previously headed Al Qaeda's operations in Iran. However, he is believed to have been relocated to Syria in mid-2013 when he joined up with Jabhat al-Nusra, the official Al Qaeda franchise in Syria.

Barack Obama Syria airstrikes Win McNamee/Getty Images

This conflation of Al Qaeda members and franchises in Syria has led to debate about whether Khorasan is an independent Al Qaeda franchise or a subset of Nusra. Aaron Zelin, a Richard Borow Fellow at the Washington Institute think tank and the founder of Jihadology, believes that the two groups are one in the same.

It’s cute Pentagon is literally making up new group called ‘Khurasan’ when it’s just AQ AfPak/Iran guys in JN. Don’t get my gov sometimes.
— Aaron Y. Zelin (@azelin) September 23, 2014

I find it absurd that the DOD doesn’t think people can see through its Khurasan/JN IO. Just say what you’re doing. This is 2014.
— Aaron Y. Zelin (@azelin) September 23, 2014

Thomas Joscelyn, an editor of The Long War Journal and scholar at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told Business Insider that Khorasan consists of members of "core Al Qaeda" who were dispatched to Syria by Ayman Al Zawahiri, Osama Bin Laden's successor as head of the international jihadist group.

"These are basically senior operational guys within Al Qaeda who are operating in Syria, and using the fertile recruiting ground of Syria to identify potential terrorist operations in the west," Joscelyn told Business Insider. The operatives are embedded within Nusra's leadership structure, and take their name from the Khorasan Shura, an advisory council within Al Qaeda central.

Senior Obama administration officials said the group's operatives have fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The group was portrayed as a known threat, one that a senior US official said had forced the US to contemplate taking action for quite some time.

The official said action against Khorasan was being contemplated separate from ISIS threat "for months" and likely would have been taken anyway.

"This is essentially the same cast of characters that we've had our eye on for years," the senior US official said. "These are known operatives to us. This is more like a group of people seeking to exploit the safe haven in Syria to plot against us. And that's why we took the action we did."

US Central Command said strikes against the group northwest of Aleppo in Syria targeted training camps, an explosives and munitions production facility, a communication building, and command and control facilities.

Armin Rosen contributed to this report.

[KaiLee]

On the msm news in Australia this morning this group was named as worse than Isis too. Interestingly they pronounced Khorasan as Horus-an. Just in case you haven't been blinded by enough Egyptian gods yet.

Give me a break!!!

[Sidney]

Apparently ISIS Wasn't A big enough reason to blast Syria. They had to come up with something better. Yawn

[jackovesk]

I'd like to personally thank the JOKE-Organisation ((ISIL-ISIS-IS)) or whatever they're bloody calling it now, for helping ((Wake-Up)) some more of the ((Brain-Dead Public)) to the ((Farcical-Lie)) that's been imposed upon them since 911..!!!

To the Pack of Gallah's they are...:cheers:


:music: TERRORISM - TERRORISM - TERRORISM :pound:

[Ellisa]

I can't help thinking this is the best news ever for the Aussie Govt. Who is talking about the Budget now? Just watch the next opinion polls! (That is an allusion to Aussie politics.)

[poetbil]

Horror's Son ?

[cursichella1]

On the msm news in Australia this morning this group was named as worse than Isis too. Interestingly they pronounced Khorasan as Horus-an. Just in case you haven't been blinded by enough Egyptian gods yet.

Give me a break!!!

Just knew there had to be something to the name, and there, we have it. Well, at least the creeps that come up with this stuff are consistent. Thanks for posting, KaiLee.

[joeecho]

Horror's Son ?

...or Whore's Son. Wouldn't that be a 'bastard'?

[EC1000]

On the msm news in Australia this morning this group was named as worse than Isis too. Interestingly they pronounced Khorasan as Horus-an. Just in case you haven't been blinded by enough Egyptian gods yet.

Give me a break!!!

yeah, what's with all the defiling of the egyptian gods? Horus is the son of Isis and Osiris. According to A Crowley, we are currently living in the age of Horus:
http://www.innerlight.org.uk/journals/Journal%20AoA%20PD.html

and some Hidus would say we are living in the age of Kali:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

[ghostrider]

let me guess this new terrorist group will magically be hiding in Iran , or Sudan , or one of the five nations in five years plan ... I told someone at work this morning , hey if we are bombing Syria to degrade ISIS , why aren't we bombing here in America ??? were we not told they have already snuck in here ??? I mean that's their way to deal with it , you know 30,000 feet , and watch the screen for everything to go boom , sadness on the faces of survivors , children without parents now , hospitals blown up , schools , every piece of history and culture achieved gone in two seconds in a cloud of death ... America does the very thing it is trying to defend against = the killing of innocent people over a religious belief ...

[Zanshin]

I find it interesting how close this is to the word Khazar.
As the original land from which the Zionist scourge spawned (current era) - does anyone have anything to share
on how such a vast national land mass as Kazakhstan seems to remain impervious to encroachment
from it's neighbors; China, Russia, etc.?
I guess what I'm getting at is - could this be among the oldest smoke and mirror illusions, where the
real perpetrators are close in proximity geographically whilst remaining in relative obscurity; the
elephant in the room, so to speak?
I have researched Kazakhstan a bit, but have not uncovered anything definitive - does anyone out
there have anything to share?

[linksplatinum]

This is an interesting article:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/top-u-s-military-official-arab-allies-support-isis.html

It doesn't quite cover it however.  More to the point is recent WHISTLEBLOWER, Scott Bennett, U.S. Army Special Operations Officer, global psychological warfare-counterterrism analyst's report to his commanding officer following the trail of the money funding ISIS and AL Queda direct to the CIA.

http://armypsyop.wix.com/scottbennett

This whistleblower has the proof and documentation to back it up.

The thanks he got was having his report buried and being thrown in prison for 2 years on a false charges.  Just released in February he is mad as hell and now talking.  Support this man!  Buy his book!

He writes..."I, Scott Bennett, have  worn the United States military uniformproudly to defend my family, friends, and neighbors; and my country's sacred honor and Constitution of liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness....I have fought on your behalf, written whistleblowing reports to Congress to save the lives of my military brethren.  I am a staunch patriot.  I am also a man of deep faith, and fearlessly believe, "No weapon formed against you shall prosper", saith the Lord.

              I am also a sharpshooter , explosives expert, and excellent hand-to-hand combat and knifefighter."

WARNING:      In the event of my untimely death, additional documents and materials will be immediately released which expose all previously undisclosed persons, networks, operations, and financial accounts relating to illegal foreign and domestic terrorism activities.  All materials have been safely  uploaded to legal counsel.   Congress and Military authorities have been notified of this."

 

[KaiLee]

And just to make it more interesting, the wikipedia page on Khorasan has been completely revised by an "unknown user" since yesterday. It was a very detailed and quite long page with many subtitles. Now it's not much more than the briefest of notes with links that lead to further brief notes.

[Sidney]

I feel he should release the info now.

[jackovesk]

http://www.21stcenturynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/CIA-326x159.png

25 September 2014

An increasing number of Iraqis are now starting to believe that the CIA and ISIS are secretly united.

The New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick writes that most Iraqis...


“From the streets of Baghdad to the highest levels of Iraqi government” believe that the C.I.A. and ISIS are working with each other.

On Saturday, Bahaa al-Araji, deputy prime minister revealed at a demonstration that Iraqis know who created ‘Daesh’.

Mr Araji was called by Iraqi Islamic political leader Moktada al-Sadr, who publicly blamed the agency for creating the Islamic State in a speech last week.

Interviews suggest that Mr Sadr’s opinion is embraced by most of the people at the demonstration, including dozens of members of Parliament, The New York Times reports. Mr Sadr’s views are popular in Iran as well.

Mr Araji did not wish to clarify his stand regarding the relation between the C.I.A. and ISIS when questioned by a journalist and only said that he is “one of the poor people.” Nevertheless, he confirmed that people are very scared, before “stepping back towards the open door of a chauffeur-driven SUV,” revealed by The New York Times.

Raad Hatem, 40, said that he, just like other Iraqis, does not trust US President Barack Obama, while Haidar al-Assadi, 40 also agreed that ISIS “is a clear creation of the United States.” Mr Assadi added that the US “is trying to intervene again using the excuse of the Islamic State.” Omar al-Jabouri, 31, a Sunni Muslim from a predominantly Shiite neighbourhood of Baghdad who attended the rally also agreed with the above statements. “…the Islamic State was a different story...


Mr. Jabouri said. “It is obvious to everyone that the Islamic State is a creation of the United States and Israel.”


According to Kurt Nimo from infowars.com, the CIA has a long history of hands-on experience with terrorists who have allegedly attacked the United States. “Ramzi Yousef, the supposed mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the planned Bojinka attack, was recruited by the CIA and fought with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan”, writes Nimo.

The following excerpt from Nimo’s article accurately describes the so-called conspiracy theory, which is now starting to make sense to a lot of people:

Ali Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army recruited by the CIA, “trained most of al-Qaeda’s top leadership – including bin Laden and [Ayman] al-Zawahiri – and most of al-Qaeda’s top trainers. Mohamed taught surveillance, counter-surveillance, assassinations, kidnapping, codes, ciphers and other intelligence techniques,” U.S. prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told the 9/11 Commission in 2004. “For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan.”


“It’s impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn’t caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile,” Nabil Sharef, a university professor and former Egyptian intelligence officer, told The Wall Street Journal in November, 2001.

Returning members of ISIS, now hyped as the next wave of domestic terror, are not tourists, either. If, as predicted by a range of offcials, including Rep. Peter King and Sen. Lindsey Graham, ISIS attacks inside America it will be part of a larger plan to expand and extend the war on terror and put the finishing touches on the surveillance and police state in America.

This apparatus is not designed to protect against al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorists. The purpose is to spy on the American people, who are the real enemy, and make certain they cannot effectively challenge the political monopoly of the global elite.

http://www.21stcenturynews.com.au/iraqis-aware-cia-isis/

PS - Former Al-Qaeda Operative Claims Qaeda/ISIS Run By The CIA...:yes4:

http://www.dcclothesline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cia-dod-puppetmasters-600x375.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEuJ5v3AbJg&feature=player_embedded

Read (English Transcript) here...


Na’eem first referenced the ((Project For A New American Century)) and the Bernard Lewis plan to ((break up the Middle East, re-establish national boundaries, and create a region made up of petty squabbling and weak “micro-states and mini-states”)) when he stated the following:


Na’eem: Bernard Lewis founder of Fourth-Generation Warfare said so, he said: we do not need trans-continent armies that would awake nationalism and they return to us as bodies like what happened in Afghanistan & Vietnam, but we should find agents inside the (targeted) country who will carry out the task of the soldiers, and we need a media tool to falsify truths for the people, and money to spend on them.

This is the Fourth-Generation Warfare, agents instead of soldiers.

Interviewer: This is an alternative army, a war by proxy?

Nabeel Naiem: Yes of course.

Interviewer: Between who (this war)? We are talking about armies on the ground, Al Qaeda and all what branches out of it, these armies work for the account of which battle and between who?

Nabeel Naiem: It works for the US Intelligence (CIA).

Interviewer: Who it fights?

Nabeel Naiem: The regimes, they put a plan in 1998 called Clean Break (PNAC)…

Cont'd...

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/07/24/former-al-qaeda-operative-claims-qaedaisis-run-cia/

[Cidersomerset]

Now as we speak there are 1500 of ISIS & NUSRA ( front ) are in Tele Aviv Hospitals

More Wows !...I think he maybe joining Robin Cook and Dr. Kelly soon....

and to think Cameron and the westminster morons will probably get their vote tomorrow.

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RAF to unleash its Storm Shadow ‘bunker busters’ on ISIS as Cameron vows to take on ‘these psychopathic murderers’

Thursday 25th September 2014 at 10:30 By david-icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/get-attachment-328-587x353.jpg

‘David Cameron last night urged Britain to shake off the spectre of the Iraq war and
back potentially years of RAF strikes against the ‘psychopathic murderers’ of
Islamic State.

MPs have been scrambled for an emergency recall of Parliament tomorrow to
sanction bombing raids on terrorist positions in northern Iraq.

All three party leaders indicated support for air strikes, and the attacks are
expected to begin as early as tomorrow night.

But the Prime Minister said the fight against Islamic terrorism could last for years.

Mr Cameron, who last night held talks with Iraqi prime minister Haider al-Abadi to
finalise military plans, stressed that British troops would not be sent back to Iraq.’

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/24/1411595572261_wps_1_british_weaponry_ready_to.jpg



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2768704/We-deal-psychopathic-murderers-says-Cameron-RAF-prepares-bombing-raids-using-Storm-Shadow-bunker-busters-Brimstone-missiles-Paveway-IV-bombs.html

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And if by some miracle the MPS find a backbone and say no.....

Cameron has one he made earlier.....


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/2.72.2/desktop/3.5/img/blq-blocks_grey_alpha.png


25 September 2014 Last updated at 21:12

Islamic State air strikes in Iraq 'would be legal' - No 10


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77824000/jpg/_77824729_hi024055069.jpg
Chief of the Defence Staff General Sir Nicholas Houghton (left) briefed the defence
secretary and members of the cabinet earlier

The Iraqi government's request for support in its fight with Islamic State (IS)
means UK air strikes in the country would be legal, Number 10 says.

A summary of the government's position said the request "provides a clear and
unequivocal legal basis for deployment of UK forces".

On Friday MPs will be asked to vote for a motion backing strikes against IS militants
in Iraq - but not in Syria.Meanwhile some 250 anti-war protesters have gathered
outside Downing Street.The proposed motion comes after a third night of US-led air
strikes which targeted IS-controlled oil refineries in Syria.

read more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29370515




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If you get the chance listen to Pauls thread.....It will wind you up ! ...LOL

In it among other things they say that ISIL is basically Al Qaeda which is
CIA , Mossad and Saudi intelligence plus a load of crooks , and probably
others agencies though he did not mention MI6 or Aussie intel......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75289-Russia-continues-to-leak-critical-9-11-info-to-Gordon-Duff.&p=881205#post881205

9yeSX-PBnAE



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I'm a bit late listening to this I clicked on hours ago but got waylaid on my chemtrail thread
which also ties into the many dots we are connecting......

anyway aprox 50 mins in and I'm having some wow ! moments with Gordon
talking about the real Al Ciada ....which reminded me of Robin Cook 'leader of
the House' a honorary title in the UK Parliament. When he said that.....

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/robin-cook-2.jpg

and he and weapons inspector Dr.Kelly were both probably assassinated .....


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlV6KkpIgAA1R7_.jpg:medium

I just liked this one...LOL

http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/al_qaeda_cia_connection.gif


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What a load of crooks.....The last bit about the commodity markets was
interesting , they are talking oil, but as I mentioned the 'chem trails' have
a commodity side according to researchers which involve Monsanto and
all the other 'corporate crooks and politicians and 'Banksters' that are
running the ' wild west' !! ......

[SilentFeathers]

the USA, Saudi's, and UAE took out 12 oil refineries in the last 24 hours or so in Syria.....conveniently claiming ISIS was in control of all of them, yeppers, and people think (most people) think that these attacks in Syria are all about ISIS only.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4pIo6peUBY4/VCSWGrumi6I/AAAAAAAAKeg/SzFSg8QfSWI/w625-h338-no/head%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bsand.jpg

[Snookie]

the USA, Saudi's, and UAE took out 12 oil refineries in the last 24 hours or so in Syria.....conveniently claiming ISIS was in control of all of them, yeppers, and people think (most people) think that these attacks in Syria are all about ISIS only.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4pIo6peUBY4/VCSWGrumi6I/AAAAAAAAKeg/SzFSg8QfSWI/w625-h338-no/head%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bsand.jpg

Actually, I was listening to The No Agenda Show today and they played 2or3 clips of different politicians actually now saying "we have to take out Assad". Not like that was their main agenda all along or at least since they claimed Assad was using chemical weapons on his people. Once he is out of the way they can set up their central banks like they have done in the other countries they have occupied.

[Violet]

I think Belgium feels guilty because so many operatives stem from here.

But still difficult to believe that we're getting involved and no one is talking about funds. How are we paying for this? We don't have the money. That's what they said. We just had the budgetting go through Parliament and it was scanty! Antwerp will probably have to delay or cancel its grand reinfrastructuring plans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oosterweel_Link) (laid out over ten years ago) altogether because the EU just realised that - hey - they've put it in the wrong books (accounting). Apparently the Flemish government put this construction project in the books of some limited company and not in the government's budgetting which seemed strange to the EU especially since the public infrasture is not a private affair.

Teachers will probably have to work one hour extra per week (about 40 hours in a year) for the same wages (Expecting the next strike soon). Police are still on strike for almost a week with different actions. Last one I heard this morning (a good one really) is that they threaten to not write out any tickets anymore. Yeehaa.
Hospitals have to cut finances, everyone is cutting budgets but magically we have money to get involved in another World War.
The farmers (this morning) were lamenting their losses in income from the sales of apples and pears to Russia. They now get about half of what they used to for an apple before the embargo.

I read yesterday: poverty is on the increase and how it was possible that the opening speech of the Parliamentary year made no mention of solutions for something that has not only been there all along but is on the increase.

Students went on strike last week because they have to pay 400 EUR more per academic year in college (students rarely strike like that. Last significant time I remember: 1968 (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuven_Vlaams)). I can't believe the minister dared say after that they were exaggerating matters and things had to be seen in perspective.

So, how, and really just how can a country in that condition so happily show its F16s as they prepare to leave for a clean (they actually stressed that explaining how precise these tools are) mission.

Well, I just think it's disgusting.

_____________
Evening update:

As we are speaking Parliament is still debating (coming to an end) whether or not the F16s should head for Iraq (and others)
when in fact those planes already left one hour ago...:crazy:

Is this unbelievable or what?

[TargeT]

Uhhmmm....

So I'm not quite sure what to think on this, I'd definitely need to know more.


Beheading suspect was recently fired, Oklahoma police say

(CNN) -- A man suspected of beheading a woman and stabbing another worker at an Oklahoma food plant was fired right before the attack, police said Friday.

Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was terminated from his job at Vaughan Foods processing plant just before the rampage Thursday afternoon in Moore, Oklahoma, just outside Oklahoma City, said Sgt. Jeremy Lewis of the Moore Police Department.

After "he was terminated, he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, 54, and began assaulting her with a knife. He did kill Colleen and he did sever her head."

Nolen recently had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam, Lewis added during a Friday press conference. "After conducting interviews with co-workers of Nolen's, information was obtained that he recently started trying to convert some of his coworkers to the Muslim religion."Moore police have asked the FBI to help investigate the man's background.

"Due to the manner of death and the statement of co-workers and other initial information that investigators have gathered, we requested the assistance of the FBI in conducting a background investigation into Nolen."

Earlier Friday, U.S. law enforcement officials said there were no indication the attack was linked to terrorism.

And Lewis agreed.

"Just based on statements made by co-workers, that's what brought us to go ahead and contact the FBI, just to get assistance on a background investigation.

A second woman, identified as Traci Johnson, survived the attack, thanks to the intervention of another co-worker, the company's chief operating officer Mark Vaughan, who is also an Oklahoma County reserve deputy.

She's hospitalized in stable condition with "numerous knife wounds," according to police.

"This off-duty deputy definitely saved Traci's life," Lewis said. "This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. He's obviously a hero in this situation. It's very tragic that someone did lose their life, but it could have gotten a lot worse. This guy was definitely not going to stop. He didn't stop until he was shot."

Vaughan Foods issued a statement Thursday after the attack. "We are shocked and deeply saddened by the events, said spokeswoman Danielle Katcher. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of the team member we lost and all those affected, " Katcher added.

Nolen was shot twice, police said, and is also hospitalized in stable condition.

The attack appeared to be random. Lewis said the two victims were simply in Nolen's way when he entered the building. "He wasn't targeting anyone, wasn't going specifically after them. It appears they were just in his way as he came in."

Authorities were still interviewing witnesses Friday. Police said they did not have any information on Nolen's background, yet. They also have not yet said what charges Nolen might be facing.

"There's two separate incidents that we're looking at. We do have a homicide that our investigators are looking at and we have requested the assistance of the FBI in looking into the background of the suspect," Lewis said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html

[giovonni]

From James Corbett

"As bombs start dropping in Syria and Iraq, the world is once again being asked to cower in fear of a shadowy terror group that most people hadn't heard of just a few months ago. But even the most cursory examination of ISIS's past, its connections, and the actors populating it reveal a very different story than the one we are being asked to believe in. Fake terrorists. Foreign backers. False flags. Meet the new boogeyman, same as the old boogeyman."

Published on Sep 26, 2014

SHOW NOTES AND MP3: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=12386


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LSIwvE0Nvo&feature=em-uploademail

[giovonni]

Richard Dawkins: People find ISIS attractive despite beheadings

"Religion and politics have always been an explosive mix, perhaps never more so than in the case of ISIS. But is the brutality that we've seen a result of violent ideology or a reflection of the darker side of human nature? Oksana is joined by Richard Dawkins, evolutionary biologist and author, to reason on these issues."

Published on Sep 26, 2014


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP6CaQOYJHI

[bogeyman]

How did ISIS become so organised and effective. Where did it get its billions of dollars? Where did it gets its training? How come no one saw this group coming? How come no one heard of this group before? Did it just appear from know where? what are we not being told?

[Bill Ryan]

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And where did Al-Q'aeda suddenly go? :)

(Oh, wait a minute, it's just rebranding. The old name was getting rather 'tired'...)

[bogeyman]

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And where did Al-Q'aeda suddenly go? :)

That's another point, it seems once one enemy is dealt with another takes its place, it very suspicions. Is there a hidden agenda here?

[giovonni]

Please note: i post these items to share for those who might like a brief, but comprehensive analysis on this subject matter.
i hope (most here) will take the time to listen to the videos ... :)

[Atlas]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/alton-nolan-1.gif

I don't think he is related to ISIS because ISIS don't deal Cocaine.

[Nasu]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/alton-nolan-1.gif

I don't think he is related to ISIS because ISIS don't deal Cocaine.

Give em time.. There's good money to be had in that market, just ask the alphabet agencies... N

[truth4me]

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And where did Al-Q'aeda suddenly go? :)

(Oh, wait a minute, it's just rebranding. The old name was getting rather 'tired'...)

Nail, say hello to hammer....

[bogeyman]

This group didn't just form in a matter of months or a few years, it is well trained, well armed, well funded, and determined. Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

[jackovesk]

the USA, Saudi's, and UAE took out 12 oil refineries in the last 24 hours or so in Syria.....conveniently claiming ISIS was in control of all of them, yeppers, and people think (most people) think that these attacks in Syria are all about ISIS only.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4pIo6peUBY4/VCSWGrumi6I/AAAAAAAAKeg/SzFSg8QfSWI/w625-h338-no/head%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bsand.jpg

Actually, I was listening to The No Agenda Show today and they played 2or3 clips of different politicians actually now saying "we have to take out Assad". Not like that was their main agenda all along or at least since they claimed Assad was using chemical weapons on his people. Once he is out of the way they can set up their central banks like they have done in the other countries they have occupied.

It leads me to just 1 ((CONCLUSION))

Q: Who is more ((DANGEROUS))..:confused:




1. The Press/MSM?

...Or

2. The Politicians?

A: I've been thinking about all this long & hard lately and have formed my Conclusion/Judgement...:wizard:


The ((PRESS/MSM)) hands down are more ((Dangerous))...:yes4:



They can make or break any Political Career
They can skew/spin a story any which way they want
They have the ((Ears)) of the sheeple
They've supported ((ALL)) the Illegal WARS
They've promoted Fearmongering & Terrorism
The list is endless


Without the ((Press/MSM) none of this :bs: humanity has had to put up with in the modern century would ever see the ((Light of Day))..:nono:

PS - Which makes this (Man/Jew) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBWj7tWdHWJa2FvBzD2jHK5uRfQBgYhqkTYkgiSFKajIF-cfxsPAhttp://www.bas-bg.org/New-HTML/images/nhitler21.jpg:director: Sieg Heil Mine Fuhrer))))

[Atlas]

Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

Like their cars for example ?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ISIS_CIA_Convoy.jpg
Image: ISIS began its invasion into Iraqi territory from NATO-member Turkey, through Syria and riding in Toyota Hilux trucks – identical to those provided to “moderates” by the US State Department as part of multi-million dollar “non-lethal” aid packages. ISIS did not take these trucks from “moderates,” the moderates never existed to begin with. From the beginning, it was the West’s plan to raise a mercenary army of sectarian extremists operating under the banner of Al Qaeda. (source (http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/isis-region-wide-genocide-portended-in.html))

http://benzaiten.dyndns.org/img/isis_toyota_trucks.jpg

Edit: lol, I just noticed there actually is a Toyota Isis:

http://www.toyotarentacar.net/lineup/wagon/w1_01/images/ph_01.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Isis

[Milneman]

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And where did Al-Q'aeda suddenly go? :)

(Oh, wait a minute, it's just rebranding. The old name was getting rather 'tired'...)

Bill didn't you hear the Red Queen from behind her hijab scream, "Off with their heads?"

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium/goddess-isis-sheryl-unwin.jpg



PS: I just realized why Pooh has his head down the hole, and it has nothing to do with honey. ;)

[Milneman]

Jakov would you agree that these individuals are also part of this problem?

-Michael Eisner
-Joe Roth
-Gerald M. Levine
-Sumner Redstone
-Ronald Perelman
-Steven Spielberg
-Edgar Bronfman Jr.
-Peter R. Kann
-Wolf Blitzer
-Mortimer B. Zucherman
-Peter Kalikow
-Howard Stern

[giovonni]

:thumb: thanks for the bumps :thumb:

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Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

Like their cars for example ?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ISIS_CIA_Convoy.jpg
Image: ISIS began its invasion into Iraqi territory from NATO-member Turkey, through Syria and riding in Toyota Hilux trucks – identical to those provided to “moderates” by the US State Department as part of multi-million dollar “non-lethal” aid packages. ISIS did not take these trucks from “moderates,” the moderates never existed to begin with. From the beginning, it was the West’s plan to raise a mercenary army of sectarian extremists operating under the banner of Al Qaeda. (source (http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/isis-region-wide-genocide-portended-in.html))

http://benzaiten.dyndns.org/img/isis_toyota_trucks.jpg

Edit: lol, I just noticed there actually is a Toyota Isis:

http://www.toyotarentacar.net/lineup/wagon/w1_01/images/ph_01.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Isis

Also banks and corporations ... :)

[giovonni]

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And where did Al-Q'aeda suddenly go? :)

(Oh, wait a minute, it's just rebranding. The old name was getting rather 'tired'...)

Has it gone away ...

Perhaps ~ Al-Q'aeda has simply decided to create a subsidiary branch ...

After all diversifying seems to be a global trend ... :)

[Moz]

We all hope that the new "measures" to prevent this all new and most evil organization known as ISIS will not result in less liberty in the rest of the world.
But one thing is really fantastic, the speed to go from zero to something world threatening. They must have been planned some years ago, maybe two or three?

It has always seemed so similar to Nazi Germany, so poverty stricken and in social turmoil and bang in onlly 4 or 5 years world power.... hmmm?

[Lifebringer]

International
Secular
Intelligence
System

Sounds like the cabal to me. Whack people.

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We all hope that the new "measures" to prevent this all new and most evil organization known as ISIS will not result in less liberty in the rest of the world.
But one thing is really fantastic, the speed to go from zero to something world threatening. They must have been planned some years ago, maybe two or three?

It has always seemed so similar to Nazi Germany, so poverty stricken and in social turmoil and bang in onlly 4 or 5 years world power.... hmmm?

Probably set the place up to go through it, before a takeover, just as we've seen in recent years. Yes, it's taken years to put this in place, more like decades. Papa Bush declared a NWO in 1991 and we're still fighting that germ on our posterior.

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Just like Blackwater or AIG. LOL

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Now we know where else KOCH brothers are kicking loot. Funding wars just like in the old days, eh?

[giovonni]

:rolleyes:
We all hope that the new "measures" to prevent this all new and most evil organization known as ISIS will not result in less liberty in the rest of the world.
But one thing is really fantastic, the speed to go from zero to something world threatening. They must have been planned some years ago, maybe two or three?

It has always seemed so similar to Nazi Germany, so poverty stricken and in social turmoil and bang in onlly 4 or 5 years world power.... hmmm?

Yes ~ the banking industry seems to have been always on the lookout for a lucrative start up war (investment) ... :rolleyes:

[crosby]

five weeks ago, i was having a discussion with my work colleagues regarding the lame streams coverage of isis. "Oh my God, (they said) why is this happening? Why is this being allowed to happen?" i said to them that the be-headings of innocents would not be enough to garner total support - they will need to move to an even darker terrorist regime -they would need a bigger, badder, more evil terrorist group-(khourasan)(sp?) [which they did not to long ago] - they will keep changing the name, and keep reinforcing the darkness to gain more control. Most of my work colleagues looked at me with disgust at the time, tried to argue with me, snickered in the background that i would be fired - now they are not saying so much. some even think that i may have some kind of inside information----- "nope, it is just plain common sense." what is it finally going to take to wake everyone up?
warmest,
crosby

[ThePythonicCow]

PS - Which makes this (Man/Jew) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!


Jakov would you agree that these individuals are also part of this problem?
So far as I can tell, Rupert Murdock (media mogul over Fox News, et al) is clearly a Zionist, but not so clearly Jewish.

In our forum version of political correctness, I recommend using the words with the base of "Jew" to refer to a large class of some 13 million people, of widely varying sorts, though common faith and heritage, just as the word "Texan" refers to a similar large and diverse class of some 26 million people, of common location.

The consensus (so far as I am aware, and I think a reasonable consensus) on this forum is that such large classes of people are not, en masse, evil. Even though Ariel Sharon claimed to be Jewish, and George W. Bush claimed to be Texan, that doesn't (I hope) make all Jews or Texans as evil as those two.

(Feel free to substitute "Australian" for "Texan" above, a group of similar size, on ten times the land. No doubt you can recommend better than I who best fits the Australian example of George W. Bush.)

I recommend using words such as "Zionist" to refer to a smaller group of people who have adopted a strong pro-Israel nationalist view, where it seems likely that Israel is in considerable part a Rothschild creation, intended to sow the seeds of conflict in the Middle East. Rabid Zionist supporters are a more dangerous and/or deluded lot, just as rabid George W. Bush supporters are. I'd know - I was once a rabid George W. Bush supporter.

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people. Pretty clearly your labeling Murdock as a "Man/Jew" was not entirely intended in a positive or even neutral light, especially given the juxtaposition with the image of Hitler doing the Nazi salute.

May I request, jackovesk, that you change "Man/Jew" to "Man/Zionist", or else explain the error(s) of my thinking?

(There is certainly at least one error in my thinking: Trying to persuade yourself to make a change to a post on the grounds of "political correctness" ;).)

[ghostrider]

a bunch of splinter group terrorist types band together , buy some Toyotas and weapons , and suddenly they are wealthy , organized , and front page news , oh and they have a kewl handle like the alphabet agencies , ISIS ... a new manufactured boogey man that DHS didn't see coming ??? our entire intelligence network is either incompetent or in on it ... who will these guys morph into after Syria is turned into a parking lot ??? Oh yeah , the remnant of ISIS will magically stroll right into IRAN ...

[Ellisa]

It's oil---again! ISIS had access to the oil worth $38,000,000 in the area they conquered, and this is the area that has just been bombed this last week or so. Most of the operating wells in this area have been put out of action, so I guess that means ISIS will be expanding to find some more! Oil being what it is, there will be no difficulty selling it. ISIS is the most well-funded of all the terrorist groups, but given it is located in the richest oil fields on the planet that is scarcely surprising. I don't think that the official governments of the area would want to support ISIS as they would then be obliged to give up their power when the Caliphate was established. That is the aim of this particular group, and it is an enticing and attractive idea to many of the population in the area. The brutality and violence of ISIS however is shocking, and possibly may repulse those who may agree with some of its other aims. The barbarity of ISIS's actions must surely seem disgusting to the rest of us.

[Maia Gabrial]

Have you seen this yet?

tqqtXVmXdcw

We know that that traitor McCain met with ISIS. Plenty of deals were made to set up this latest deception. There are plenty of photos which should convict him.

So folks, no ISIS was harmed during the making of this film.... :becky:

[Mike Gorman]

Sure looks like B.S pre-warned, staged strike ...there is a lot of weird stuff going down - Alex Jones has a lot of the truth, ISIS are a Pentagon creation
same groups as AL Qaeda designed to propagate the dark strategies - who can you trust in these times.

[Billy]

But one thing is really fantastic, the speed to go from zero to something world threatening. They must have been planned some years ago, maybe two or three?



I would say, those who believe they are in control have been planning this for quite a few thousand years. As they attempt to steer humanity towards a time line of their own design and desires. They create the enemies and the situations of divisions. And humanity falls for it every time. hook line and sinker.

It is a great pity that only a few understand that it does not have to be this way.

peace.

[Maia Gabrial]

This group didn't just form in a matter of months or a few years, it is well trained, well armed, well funded, and determined. Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

I agree. Sadly, the US govt is the guilty one....

[Pam]

I don't think if he had been trying to convert fellow employees to Christianity they would have contacted the FBI to help with a "background investigation".

[SilentFeathers]

Ask John McCain who is really behind ISIS, he probably knows.....

[Snookie]

Sure looks like B.S pre-warned, staged strike ...there is a lot of weird stuff going down - Alex Jones has a lot of the truth, ISIS are a Pentagon creation
same groups as AL Qaeda designed to propagate the dark strategies - who can you trust in these times.

According to Mr. Duff senior Editor of Veterans Today ISIS/ISIL is comprised of Saudi secret service agents, Mossad agents and CIA agents. Sounds about right to me.

[Roisin]

As such information surfaces to public consciousness via the internet, eventually the avg. citizen out there will refuse to allow "them" to conscript our sons and daughters to fight their wars. We are already at a point where that may happened sooner than we think. Just look at how many people out there who are "on the fence" about the official report on what happened on 9/11.

[Hervé]

The Khorasans: As Fake As the Kardashians (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html)

Posted on September 25, 2014 (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html) by WashingtonsBlog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/washingtonsblog)


New Boogeyman Has Already Been Debunked


Obama is now – after the fact – scrambling to justify bombing the sovereign nation of Syria without the permission of either the Syrian government or even the United States Congress by saying that we were going after the super-evil Khorasans, who were about to attack us.

My God! That sounds terrifying … like a cross between Genghis Khan, Klingons and the Kardashians!

The U.S. is saying that they’re even more dangerous than ISIS (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/23/Khorasan-More-Dangerous-ISIS).

There’s just one wee little problem … the Khorasan threat is as as fake as the Kardashians’ physiques (https://www.google.com/search?q=kardashians+plastic+surery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&q=kardashian%27s+plastic+surgery&spell=1). (Admittedly, it’s confusing, given that the Kardashians have also inserted themselves right in the middle (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/31/kim-kardashian-butts-into-syria-s-online-civil-war-with-savekessab-campaign.html) of the Syrian conflict.)

Agence France-Presse reports (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Iraq-Syria-conflict-US/2014/09/24/id/596601/):

[...]


Full article: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html

[ghostrider]

also men in the middle east knowing War since birth , would never put a huge piece of artillery in wide open so it can be seen easily by aircraft , soldiers would go out of their way to conceal the location of such a weapon , it's combat 101 , concealment ...

[gripreaper]

:thumb: thanks for the bumps :thumb:
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Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

Like their cars for example ?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ISIS_CIA_Convoy.jpg
Image: ISIS began its invasion into Iraqi territory from NATO-member Turkey, through Syria and riding in Toyota Hilux trucks – identical to those provided to “moderates” by the US State Department as part of multi-million dollar “non-lethal” aid packages. ISIS did not take these trucks from “moderates,” the moderates never existed to begin with. From the beginning, it was the West’s plan to raise a mercenary army of sectarian extremists operating under the banner of Al Qaeda. (source (http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/isis-region-wide-genocide-portended-in.html))

http://benzaiten.dyndns.org/img/isis_toyota_trucks.jpg[/url]

Well yea, you're gonna want the TRD "turbo" package, ya know, in case you need to make a quick getaway, the extra horsepower could come in handy under fire...and the 4x4 "on the fly" with the rear differential lock gives you more traction in the sand! And the SR-5 models come with the sunroofs, ideal for setting up machine guns, and the leather seating will be easier to clean after a hard days work from standing up through the sunroof, and the running boards are also quite handy for riding outside the cabs. The brush guards and rock sliders protect the vital internals from excessive damage while you're killing and beheading innocent people, and the double cabs come in handy if you want to bring along a few friends. The SR-5 also comes with usb ports and mp3 so that you can document your murders, play your favorite music, and keep in touch with all your jihadist friends while murdering and pillaging. Then you can upload your favorite beheading video's to your laptops and distribute them for world viewing to create the "memes" the globalists want imbedded in our consciousness! I believe these models are also rated as half tons, so when you're done pillaging and you want to head back to the house for a bite to eat, these trucks can handle the load!

So, outfitting this engineered mercenary boogie man with the latest options on the latest models only makes sense!

[PAVONIA]

I just find it funny these "terror groups" pop up outta know where! This group wasnt any threat to us, and then a few people get their head chopped off and we're ready to go to war?? Bull****. ISIS has become the new group the governement is trying to hype up like they'll attack us or make fake claims of big plots. Horrible.

[syrwong]

It is believed by many (including David Icke) that the sudden appearance of ISIS will quickly lead to the start of WW3 , but I have not seen a good explanation why this is so. I could however guess the following would happen:

1. The bombing of ISIS is taking away the pretense the bombing of Syria, that is, an invasion of Syria.
2. Syria will have to engage in a war against some bigger enemies than ISIS.
3. Iran will come to aid Syria, as they have an alliance.
4. China and Russia must side with Iran against even bigger enemies, and at the same time must be quite busy with their neighboring enemies.
5. The war that involves Russia and China must be officially WW3.

I am not sure of the logic of these consequences. These events may still take two years to develop. Can anyone supplement or rebuke this?

[giovonni]

This group didn't just form in a matter of months or a few years, it is well trained, well armed, well funded, and determined. Only governments can provide this sort of thing.

I agree. Sadly, the US govt is the guilty one....

i sense it goes a lot deeper than just the fronting by the US illegal government ...



oops! Double post.

Thanks everyone for your responses oops and all ... :)

[DeDukshyn]

How did ISIS become so organised and effective. Where did it get its billions of dollars? Where did it gets its training? How come no one saw this group coming? How come no one heard of this group before? Did it just appear from know where? what are we not being told?

1) Money, Modern high end weapons, and elite training.

2) The Western countries publicly gave them our hard earned tax dollars:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/20/it-is-not-sufficient-u-s-doubles-aid-to-syrian-rebels-who-still-want-more/

3) USA Mostly - They'll train anyone for whatever reasons:
" ... while the C.I.A. runs a covert program to arm and train the Syrian rebels" from HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War), and this is interesting now ... http://rt.com/usa/191048-hagel-dempsey-command-isis/

4) Putin did, and warned everyone: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/16/world/meast/syria-civil-war/

5) New marketing strategy required.

6) Nope. Mixmash of labelled groups used previously.

7) The above.

My 2 cents ;)

[Milneman]

PS - Which makes this (Man/Jew) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!


Jakov would you agree that these individuals are also part of this problem?
So far as I can tell, Rupert Murdock (media mogul over Fox News, et al) is clearly a Zionist, but not so clearly Jewish.

In our forum version of political correctness, I recommend using the words with the base of "Jew" to refer to a large class of some 13 million people, of widely varying sorts, though common faith and heritage, just as the word "Texan" refers to a similar large and diverse class of some 26 million people, of common location.

The consensus (so far as I am aware, and I think a reasonable consensus) on this forum is that such large classes of people are not, en masse, evil. Even though Ariel Sharon claimed to be Jewish, and George W. Bush claimed to be Texan, that doesn't (I hope) make all Jews or Texans as evil as those two.

(Feel free to substitute "Australian" for "Texan" above, a group of similar size, on ten times the land. No doubt you can recommend better than I who best fits the Australian example of George W. Bush.)

I recommend using words such as "Zionist" to refer to a smaller group of people who have adopted a strong pro-Israel nationalist view, where it seems likely that Israel is in considerable part a Rothschild creation, intended to sow the seeds of conflict in the Middle East. Rabid Zionist supporters are a more dangerous and/or deluded lot, just as rabid George W. Bush supporters are. I'd know - I was once a rabid George W. Bush supporter.

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people. Pretty clearly your labeling Murdock as a "Man/Jew" was not entirely intended in a positive or even neutral light, especially given the juxtaposition with the image of Hitler doing the Nazi salute.

May I request, jackovesk, that you change "Man/Jew" to "Man/Zionist", or else explain the error(s) of my thinking?

(There is certainly at least one error in my thinking: Trying to persuade yourself to make a change to a post on the grounds of "political correctness" ;).)

Thank you Paul!

[jackovesk]

PS - Which makes this (Man/Jew) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!


Jakov would you agree that these individuals are also part of this problem?
So far as I can tell, Rupert Murdock (media mogul over Fox News, et al) is clearly a Zionist, but not so clearly Jewish.

In our forum version of political correctness, I recommend using the words with the base of "Jew" to refer to a large class of some 13 million people, of widely varying sorts, though common faith and heritage, just as the word "Texan" refers to a similar large and diverse class of some 26 million people, of common location.

The consensus (so far as I am aware, and I think a reasonable consensus) on this forum is that such large classes of people are not, en masse, evil. Even though Ariel Sharon claimed to be Jewish, and George W. Bush claimed to be Texan, that doesn't (I hope) make all Jews or Texans as evil as those two.

(Feel free to substitute "Australian" for "Texan" above, a group of similar size, on ten times the land. No doubt you can recommend better than I who best fits the Australian example of George W. Bush.)

I recommend using words such as "Zionist" to refer to a smaller group of people who have adopted a strong pro-Israel nationalist view, where it seems likely that Israel is in considerable part a Rothschild creation, intended to sow the seeds of conflict in the Middle East. Rabid Zionist supporters are a more dangerous and/or deluded lot, just as rabid George W. Bush supporters are. I'd know - I was once a rabid George W. Bush supporter.

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people. Pretty clearly your labeling Murdock as a "Man/Jew" was not entirely intended in a positive or even neutral light, especially given the juxtaposition with the image of Hitler doing the Nazi salute.

May I request, jackovesk, that you change "Man/Jew" to "Man/Zionist", or else explain the error(s) of my thinking?

(There is certainly at least one error in my thinking: Trying to persuade yourself to make a change to a post on the grounds of "political correctness" ;).)




PS - Which makes this (Man/Jew) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!


Jakov would you agree that these individuals are also part of this problem?
So far as I can tell, Rupert Murdock (media mogul over Fox News, et al) is clearly a Zionist, but not so clearly Jewish.

In our forum version of political correctness, I recommend using the words with the base of "Jew" to refer to a large class of some 13 million people, of widely varying sorts, though common faith and heritage, just as the word "Texan" refers to a similar large and diverse class of some 26 million people, of common location.

The consensus (so far as I am aware, and I think a reasonable consensus) on this forum is that such large classes of people are not, en masse, evil. Even though Ariel Sharon claimed to be Jewish, and George W. Bush claimed to be Texan, that doesn't (I hope) make all Jews or Texans as evil as those two.

(Feel free to substitute "Australian" for "Texan" above, a group of similar size, on ten times the land. No doubt you can recommend better than I who best fits the Australian example of George W. Bush.)

I recommend using words such as "Zionist" to refer to a smaller group of people who have adopted a strong pro-Israel nationalist view, where it seems likely that Israel is in considerable part a Rothschild creation, intended to sow the seeds of conflict in the Middle East. Rabid Zionist supporters are a more dangerous and/or deluded lot, just as rabid George W. Bush supporters are. I'd know - I was once a rabid George W. Bush supporter.

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people. Pretty clearly your labeling Murdock as a "Man/Jew" was not entirely intended in a positive or even neutral light, especially given the juxtaposition with the image of Hitler doing the Nazi salute.

May I request, jackovesk, that you change "Man/Jew" to "Man/Zionist", or else explain the error(s) of my thinking?

(There is certainly at least one error in my thinking: Trying to persuade yourself to make a change to a post on the grounds of "political correctness" ;).)

Thank you Paul!

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By Christopher Bollyn – American Free Press

Christopher Bollyn is an investigative journalist who has written extensively on the events of September 11, 2001 in the Washington-based American Free Press. He has researched different aspects of the 9/11 attacks and uncovered facts and evidence that challenge the official version of events. tried to smear Bollyn as an “anti-Semite” in order to discredit him and diminish the significance of his work. At the helm of both organizations, the ADL and Fox News, is an Australian-born Zionist named Keith Rupert Murdoch.


Murdoch’s Deeply Hidden Jewish Roots — A Biography

Murdoch’s Jewish Roots

Murdoch “became an American citizen for business reasons,” according to Richard H. Curtiss, editor of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Keith Rupert was born in Melbourne, Australia, on March 11, 1931. “Rupert’s father, Sir Keith Murdoch, was a newspaper publisher, and his mother an Orthodox Jew,” Curtiss wrote, “although Murdoch never offers that information in his biographies.”

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Murdoch’s father married Elisabeth Joy Greene, daughter of Rupert Greene in 1928. They had one son, Keith Rupert and three daughters. Later in life, Keith Rupert chose to use Rupert, the first name of his Jewish maternal grandfather.

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The young Keith Rupert was educated at Australia’s fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England, according to Candour (UK) magazine.

“Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

While Murdoch may have “tried to hide” his Jewish roots, he has been quite forthright about his support for extreme right-wing Zionists, such as Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.

Netanyahu, who wrote a book entitled The War on Terror: How the West Can Win in 1986, is a frequent commentator on Murdoch’s Fox News.

Murdoch’s support for Zionism extremists is well known and a matter of record. As New York Governor George Pataki said, “There is no newspaper in the U.S. more supportive of Israel than the [Murdoch’s] New York Post.”

It is through a network of Zionist organizations, in which Murdoch plays a central role, that Murdoch is connected to the individuals who arranged the privatization – and obtained control of the World Trade Center – shortly before its destruction.

These key individuals are: Larry Silverstein and the former Israeli commando Frank Lowy, the lease holders of dubious repute who gained control of the WTC property six weeks before 9/11, and Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg, who authorized the transfer of the leases.

Murdoch belongs to, and has been honored by, a number of leading Zionist organizations in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions. These organizations include the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), and the New York-based Museum of Jewish Heritage – A Living Memorial to the Holocaust.

Fifty days before 9/11, Silverstein Properties and Lowy’s Westfield America secured 99-year leases on the WTC. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey turned control of the World Trade Center over to the private hands of Silverstein and Lowy on July 24, 2001.

Silverstein and Lowy then took control of the 10.6 million-square-foot complex, which included the twin towers office buildings and two nine-story office buildings. Silverstein and the former Israeli commando Lowy then controlled all access to the World Trade Center.

Lowy leased the shopping concourse called the Mall at the World Trade Center, which comprised about 427,000 square feet of retail space.

“Six weeks before the WTC towers were destroyed, the Port Authority completed the process of leasing them for 99 years to Larry Silverstein, the developer who had built 7 World Trade Center [which mysteriously self-demolished at 5:25 p.m. on 9/11].

“Simultaneously, the retail space underneath the complex was leased to Westfield America, the US division of an Australian company that is one of the world’s largest operators of shopping malls.” Paul Goldberger wrote in New Yorker, May 20, 2002.

“Silverstein and Westfield were given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed, and Westfield has the right to expand the retail space by 30 percent,” Goldberger wrote.

Silverstein is suing for some $7.2 billion in insurance money for the loss of the destroyed World Trade Center – and his expected earnings – for property he had leased with a down payment of $100 million – of borrowed funds.

Murdoch the Zionist

“Murdoch is a close friend of Ariel Sharon,” Sam Kiley, The Times (UK) veteran journalist on the Middle East wrote about the man who took over the once famous British paper. Kiley said Murdoch’s friendship with the Israeli prime minister had caused senior staff at the paper to rewrite important copy.

“Murdoch’s executives were so afraid of irritating him that, when I pulled off a little scoop of tracking down and photographing the unit in the Israeli army which killed Mohammed al-Durrah, the 12-year-old boy whose death was captured on film and became the iconic image of the conflict, I was asked to file the piece ‘without mentioning the dead kid.’” Kiley wrote. “After that conversation, I was left wordless, so I quit.”

Sharon and Murdoch are old friends. On Oct. 15, 1982, a month after the massacres of thousands of Palestinian refugees in the Sabra and Shatila camps of Beirut, war crimes which occurred under Sharon’s direct command, the Israeli defense minister held meetings with Rupert Murdoch and others, reportedly in order to advance his “West Bank real estate grab.”

The visit with Sharon included a trip for Murdoch and his editors from New York and London that “took them on a bird’s-eye tour of Israel aboard a helicopter gunship, flying over the Golan Heights, West Bank and settlements.”

“I have always believed in the future of Israel and the goals of the international Jewish community,” Murdoch said at a spring fund-raiser for the Museum of Jewish Heritage – A Living Memorial to the Holocaust on April 29, 2001.

From the beginning, News Corp., his global media company, “has been supportive of the Jewish national cause,” Murdoch said.

Larry Silverstein, who had not yet acquired the lease on the World Trade Center, attended the fund-raiser with Murdoch and reportedly said about museum chairman Robert Morgenthau’s plans to expand the museum: “I’ll support you…as long as you keep it under 110 stories.”

Murdoch and the ADL

“Henry Kissinger, Rupert Murdoch and Mortimer Zuckerman are on the [ADL] dinner committee,” according to a recent New York Times report on the ADL’s recent fund-raiser in which the controversial Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi received the ADL’s Distinguished Statesman Award.

Silverstein and Eisenberg have both held senior leadership positions with the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), a billion dollar Zionist “charity” organization, to which Murdoch and Lowy generously contribute. In 1997, Henry Kissinger presented Murdoch with the UJA’s award for “Humanitarian of the Year.”

Silverstein is a former chairman of UJA. This organization raises hundreds of millions of dollars every year for a network of Zionist agencies in the United States and Israel. Eisenberg, who was instrumental in obtaining the lease for Silverstein, is on the Planning Board of UJA.

Eisenberg in his role with the Port Authority was the key person who negotiated the 99-year leases for Silverstein and Frank Lowy’s Westfield America, who were in fact the low-bidders for the lease on the 110-story towers and the retail mall.

Murdoch and the Czechoslovakian-born Israeli commando Frank Lowy, a former fighter in Israel’s Golani Brigade, who emigrated to Australia in the 1950s, have had a long friendship, which Murdoch recounted during an American Australian Association fund-raising dinner in honor of Frank’s son, Peter S. Lowy, in New York on November 20, 2002. Larry Silverstein and his wife also attended the American Australian event.

Some reporters refer to the American Australian Association, whose membership includes James Wolfensohn, the president of the World Bank, who raised cash for Rupert Murdoch when he first expanded into the United States, as “the kangaroo mafia.”

“Frank was a brave and determined fighter,” Rafi Kocer, Lowy’s former commander, said. Lowy has donated some $350,000 to build a memorial museum in Israel for his former brigade.

Today, Lowy and his three sons control Westfield Corporation, one of the largest operators of shopping centers in the United States – and the world.

Insured Against Terrorist Attacks

On September 12, 2001, The Jerusalem Post reported: “Frank Lowy, who emigrated to Australia from Israel in 1952, owns the 99-year lease for the 425,000 square foot retail portion of the destroyed World Trade Center…Westfield said today that it has insurance cover against terrorist attacks and its earnings will not be materially affected.”

Lowy, is described by the Sydney Morning Herald as “a self-made man with a strong interest in the Holocaust and Israeli politics.”

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PS - How about this then Paul..:confused:


Which makes this (Man/Jew/Zionist) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!


PSS - ((WRONG AGAIN!!!)) Milneman...:faint:




Thank you Paul!

That's ((2 Strikes)) now Milneman (((3 Strikes & You're Out)))..!!!

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PS - How about this then Paul..:confused:

Which makes this (Man/Jew/Zionist) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!
To quote what I wrote earlier:

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people.
I agree that Murdock may be Jewish. I realize that there are, as you quote, articles making an excellent case that he is Jewish.

The simple, unbiased, labeling of someone as Jewish is no more a problem than labeling those of us in Texas as Texans. It's just ordinary fact (or ordinary error, if they are not Jewish or Texan.)

But the "labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context" is using another, rather common, use of the word "Jewish". It's using it as an insult.

Surely you are well aware of this ... that that appellation of "Jewish" can be either a simple, ordinary fact or an insult.

And clearly, juxtaposing Murdock's image with that of Hitler, saluting in the direction of Murdock, puts that label "Jew" in a negative context.

This is not rocket science, Jackovesk. If what I write does not seem obvious to you, then I can only imagine that I have failed to present my clear and simple thoughts into equally clear and simple words.

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It is an age old habit of the bastards in power to turn humans against each other - race against race, creed against creed, tribe against tribe, left against right, etc, etc.

Words of ordinary meaning are turned into words of insult, hatred, and division, justifying bloodshed and tyranny.

Let us not provide more support for that evil habit.

[jackovesk]

PS - How about this then Paul..:confused:

Which makes this (Man/Jew/Zionist) the most Powerful/Influential voice on the planet..!!!
To quote what I wrote earlier:

Labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context, (whether clearly Jewish, or as in the case of Rupert Murdock, unclearly so) often tends, in my experience here, to be received, by some good members here, as a deliberate, unjustified and offensive incitement to outrage and slander on the large class of Jewish people.
I agree that Murdock may be Jewish. I realize that there are, as you quote, articles making an excellent case that he is Jewish.

The simple, unbiased, labeling of someone as Jewish is no more a problem than labeling those of us in Texas as Texans. It's just ordinary fact (or ordinary error, if they are not Jewish or Texan.)

But the "labeling someone Jewish, in a negative context" is using another, rather common, use of the word "Jewish". It's using it as an insult.

Surely you are well aware of this ... that that appellation of "Jewish" can be either a simple, ordinary fact or an insult.

And clearly, juxtaposing Murdock's image with that of Hitler, saluting in the direction of Murdock, puts that label "Jew" in a negative context.

This is not rocket science, Jackovesk. If what I write does not seem obvious to you, then I can only imagine that I have failed to present my clear and simple thoughts into equally clear and simple words.

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It is an age old habit of the bastards in power to turn humans against each other - race against race, creed against creed, tribe against tribe, left against right, etc, etc.

Words of ordinary meaning are turned into words of insult, hatred, and division, justifying bloodshed and tyranny.

Let us not provide more support for that evil habit.

Point taken...((However))...

(Political Correctness) I have no time whatsoever for...:nono:

I was simply pointing out the (FACTS)..!


And clearly, juxtaposing Murdock's image with that of Hitler, saluting in the direction of Murdock, puts that label "Jew" in a negative context.

My take on that is ((Entirely-Different)) to your "Assumption"...:yes4:


The reason as to why I had Hitler-Saluting Murdoch was my way of metaphorically saying (Murdoch) is part Jewish which ((a lot of people are not aware of)) & he is the most ((Powerful)) Media Mogul on the planet and people ((Bow & Salute)) him as if he's the effing ((Fuhrer))...:yes4:


There was absolutely no malice whatsoever pointed towards the Jewish people...:nono:

IMHO - Nobody has the right to ((OWN)) the word Jew/Jewish, etc...:nono:

But it "Does Seem" ((Every-Single-Time)) any reference to that 'Word' it's an effing ((CRIME))..!

Example:

In my country when the Greeks/Italians first came to Australia they were labeled (Wogs) but to alleviate the (Problem) the Greeks/Italians started to take ((Full Ownership)) of that word and turned the entire situation around in their favor...:yes4:


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PS - I getting extremely tired of ((Yet Again)) having to explain myself on petty (PC) issues..!!!

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Here it is:

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also men in the middle east knowing War since birth , would never put a huge piece of artillery in wide open so it can be seen easily by aircraft , soldiers would go out of their way to conceal the location of such a weapon , it's combat 101 , concealment ...

Of course.

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[Sith73]

ISIS is BS its just that simple The CIA creates bad guys in the world so it gives the powers that where a reason to go in and invade a country

[Snowflower]

Let me see - do I have this analogy right? So...someone beheads someone in Oklahoma. So, Putin decides that he needs to bomb the hell out of Oklahoma to stop the evil bastard that beheaded someone there. Eh?


The Khorasans: As Fake As the Kardashians (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html)

Posted on September 25, 2014 (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html) by WashingtonsBlog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/washingtonsblog)


New Boogeyman Has Already Been Debunked


Obama is now – after the fact – scrambling to justify bombing the sovereign nation of Syria without the permission of either the Syrian government or even the United States Congress by saying that we were going after the super-evil Khorasans, who were about to attack us.

My God! That sounds terrifying … like a cross between Genghis Khan, Klingons and the Kardashians!

The U.S. is saying that they’re even more dangerous than ISIS (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/23/Khorasan-More-Dangerous-ISIS).

There’s just one wee little problem … the Khorasan threat is as as fake as the Kardashians’ physiques (https://www.google.com/search?q=kardashians+plastic+surery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&q=kardashian%27s+plastic+surgery&spell=1). (Admittedly, it’s confusing, given that the Kardashians have also inserted themselves right in the middle (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/31/kim-kardashian-butts-into-syria-s-online-civil-war-with-savekessab-campaign.html) of the Syrian conflict.)

Agence France-Presse reports (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Iraq-Syria-conflict-US/2014/09/24/id/596601/):

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Full article: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/khorasans-fake-kardashians.html

[Hervé]

Thee speaketh sooth... :)

[Milneman]

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It's like the egg. Now you see it, now you don't. ;)

[Camilo]

http://youtu.be/Jo8Xm46s62I

Publicado el 02/10/2014

Discussion of the book SHELL GAME: A Military Whistleblowing Report to the U.S. Congress Exposing the Betrayal and Cover-Up by the U.S. Government of the Union Bank of Switzerland-Terrorist Threat Finance Connection to Booz Allen Hamilton and U.S. Central Command

By 2LT Scott Bennett 11th Psychological Operations Battalion (retired)

Part of the reason behind Eric Holder's immediate retirement.

BACKGROUND OF SPEAKER:

Scott Bennett is a U.S. Army Special Operations Officer (11th Psychological Operations Battalion, Civil Affairs-Psychological Operations Command), and a global psychological warfare-counterterrorism analyst, formerly with defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton.

He received a Direct Commission as an Officer, held a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information (TS/SCI) security clearance, and worked in the highest levels of international counterterrorism in Washington DC and MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida. He has worked at U.S. Special Operations Command, U.S. Central Command, the State Department Coordinator for Counterterrorism, and other government agencies. He served in the G.W. Bush Administration from 2003 to 2008, and was a Social Science Research Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. His writings and lectures seek to enhance global awareness and understanding of modern psychological warfare, the international intelligence.

[Snookie]

Wonder if he ever ran into Edward Snowden when he worked at Booz Allen Hamilton?

[Snookie]

That was a great interview! Interesting that he mentions Snowden and Michael Hastings both.

Also discussed is the fact that Eric Holder announced his "retirement" right before this interview was done. I think another reason Holder is leaving is because he doesn't want to deal with the Leo Wanta affair either. Leo said he had forwarded to Holder the recording and information of those two ex-political goombas who were discussing bribing him, & having him whacked if he didn't pay up.

I noticed that right after Holder announced he was leaving all the political pundits on TV were caught flat footed. They were not prepared for it, and we're not given their normal talking points ahead of time.

[Cardillac]

Swiss banks, through their controllers (like just for a start begin with Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc.) funnel money into everything; and who protects the Vatican?- the Swiss Guard- do we see a connection here?

[Kryztian]

Yes, great interview and I will listen to it a second time. Amazing that no one more main stream than Kerry would interview this guy and I wonder if that will remain the case - don't know of anyone interviewed by Project Camelot that went on to get covered by the mainstream media.

[boutreality]

Switzerland is the bank of the Nazi regime. All of old Bavaria and some outlying lands, the countries which exist there today, are the centralized head of the Nazi regime. They never went away and they existed as an ideal and plan to rule long before the first world war. This aspect looked at from this angle is a rather deep rabbit hole. So just going back to WWII: purpose- to shore up and consolidate Corporate Profits toward the Nazi cause. Nazism is a religion, WW3 started at end of WW2 and in the upper echelons, the only purpose of this time frame (of half a century,) was to inculcate new members into the belief system and familiarize enough people to a sufficient extent with the traditions and ceremonies of this religion. WW4 (proper) probably began around 1st Bush as VP under Reagan. This angle is well covered by Jim Marrs in "Rise of the Fourth Reich." The religion angle -minus my contentions about just how long standing this system is and what is behind it- is well introduced in "Reich of the Black Sun" by Joseph Farrell.
Know our enemy...

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When False Flags Don’t Fly

Monday 6th October 2014 at 08:38 By david-icke

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Who is Really Behind ISIS?


Published on 27 Sep 2014


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Originally aired on September 27, 2014

As bombs start dropping in Syria and Iraq, the world is once again being asked to cower
in fear of a shadowy terror group that most people hadn’t heard of just a few months
ago. But even the most cursory examination of ISIS’s past, its connections, and the
actors populating it reveal a very different story than the one we are being asked to
believe in. Fake terrorists. Foreign backers. False flags. Meet the new boogeyman, same
as the old boogeyman.

This video was produced by James Corbett and is shared with his expressed permission.

Website: http://www.corbettreport.com
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Transcript of first video - good words! - KE

When False Flags Don't Fly
James Corbett
The Corbett Report
19 April, 2010

http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100419_false_flags.htm

Those who have studied history know that nothing invigorates and empowers an authoritarian regime more than a spectacular act of violence, some sudden and senseless loss of life that allows the autocrat to stand on the smoking rubble and identify himself as the hero. It is at moments like this that the public—still in shock from the horror of the tragedy that has just unfolded before them—can be led into the most ruthless despotism: despotism that now bears the mantle of "security."

Acts of terror and violence never benefit the average man or woman. They only ever benefit those in positions of power.

This is why Nero fiddled while Rome burned: it gave him a chance to throw the Christians to the lions and rebuild the capital of the Roman Empire in his own image.

This is why Hearst and the warmongers of the emerging American Empire were delighted by the destruction of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor: it gave them the excuse they needed in order to rouse the public into supporting the Spanish-American War.

This is why Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967 during the Six Day War, strafing and torpedoing it relentlessly for hours in a vain attempt to send it to the bottom: the Israelis believed that the loss of the Liberty could be blamed on Egypt and draw the Americans into war.

This is why there are hundreds of documented examples of governments staging attacks in order to blame them on their political enemies. In every civilization, in every culture, in every historical period, authoritarians have known that spectacular acts of violence help to further consolidate their own power and control. And sadly, throughout history there have been all too many willing to allow attacks to occur, to pretend that attacks have occurred or even to attack their own population in order to further their political agenda.

To think that such staged provocations and false flag attacks no longer occur would be as unrealistic as believing that human nature itself has changed, that powerful people no longer seek to increase their power, that influence is never used for deceit or manipulation, that lies are no longer told to satisfy greed or slake the thirst for control. It is to believe that our society is immuned from those things that we have seen in every other society in every other era. In short, it is a dangerous delusion.

The people are once again learning the power of this delusion. They are learning the extent to which they have been lied to. They are once again studying their history.

The Russians are learning how the FSB was caught planting bombs in Moscow in the 1990s during a terror scare that swept Putin into power and stirred the public into supporting the Second Chechen War. They are learning how their autocratic ex-President came to power campaigning on the graves of those his old FSB cronies had killed.

The Israelis are learning how Mossad has been caught time and again posing as the very Muslim terrorists they claim to be opposing. They are learning how Israel uses the specter of terror to further extend their blank cheque drawn on American funds to expand their police state at home and maintain their hardline stance, the world's sixth-largest nuclear superpower supposedly threatened by the possibility that one of their neighbours may one day obtain a single nuclear weapon.

The British are learning how their SAS officers were caught dressing up as Arabs in Iraq, driving around with trucks full of munitions, shooting at police to stir up ethnic tensions and insure that permanent bases could be built in the region. They are learning how Haroon Aswat, the supposed mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings, was working for British Intelligence.. They are learning how British military intelligence took part in IRA bombings.

The Indians are learning how the Mumbai attack was helped by an U.S. Agent who is cooperating with investigators so that he won't face questioning by foreign authorities.

The Canadians are learning how their own provincial police dressed up as protestors in 2007 and threatened violence against other police in order to force a crackdown on peaceful protests.

And the Americans are learning that there were multiple bombs found, dismantled and taken out of the Alfred P. Murrah building on April 19, 1995. They are learning that Timothy McVeigh had written a letter to his sister in which he claimed to be in the Special Forces for the U.S. Army. They are learning the bombing was being directed by FBI informants, just as the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was. They are learning about 9/11 and the Gulf of Tonkin and Operation Northwoods and their own Army Counterinsurgency Manuals that teach officers how to commit false flag attacks to blame on their enemies.

In short, the people are learning the truth.

And now we see the same build-up to a false flag event taking place that we saw in 1995. At that time the U.S. had a corporate media desperate to fling mud at anyone concerned by the actions of their government, and it had a government that was desperately unpopular in the face of growing dissatisfaction. Today we see the exact same factors at play.

If anything, the situation today is worse than it was in the run-up to the Oklahoma City Bombing, with media consolidation meaning that groups of concerned citizens like the Oath Keepers are being attacked by the controlled minions on both the left and the right. And now it is not just the militia that is being demonized by the establishment: it is veterans and gun owners, third party supporters and libertarians, anti-war protestors and human rights campaigners, people who are upset with the government giving trillions to the banks that have engineered our current financial crisis in the first place. In short, everyone is now a potential terrorist, according to the governmental and media agencies that deign to limit our range of acceptable opinion and control dissent.

Even the word 'terrorist' means something more than it did back in 1995, after the false flag anthrax attack allowed the passage of the Patriot Act, after the boogey of Al-CIAda gave the NSA the opportunity to announce that they were collecting everyone's emails and everyone's telephone calls, after the former Homeland Security Secretary came out and admitted that the Bush administration had made up terror threats in order to scare the people into supporting the government, now we know what the real definition of terrorism is. It is governments scaring their own populations into line.

But there is something else that's different now from what it was in 1995. The people are learning something else about terrorism: they are not terrorists for speaking out against their government. They are not terrorists for wanting the government to stop selling their children into servitude to pay bankers their bonuses. They are not terrorists for pointing out that the FBI and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 are behind every major terrorist event.

The people are not terrorists because they do not want to see more death. They do not want more destruction, the spilling of the blood of their fellow citizens is not in their interests. Death and destruction only ever serves the governmental and financial and industrial interests who always grow in power and wealth in the wake of every tragedy. Time and again, the people pay with their lives, and the governments and the banks and the war machine only grows and prospers.

The people do not want terrorism because it does not benefit them. It only benefits the existing power structure.

And this time, if there is another staged event to blame on the government's enemy of the day, the people will know who to blame.

[linksplatinum]

Hey Cider, fyi,
I posted the False Flags Don't Fly Video yesterday
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75667-When-False-Flags-Don-t-Fly

[Cidersomerset]

James Corbett talks about and links this article as part the bigger
picture of the vid about ISIS above....

James Corbett Blows the Lid Off of Benghazigate - Interview 876

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Published on 5 May 2014


Benghazi is in the news again, but if you're relying on the mainstream headlines you'd
believe it's a left/right political scandal about the "Commander-in-Chief" and his inability
to "protect the US from Al Qaeda." Appearing on the Ed and Ethan podcast, James Corbett
breaks down the latest in the unfolding political drama surrounding the Benghazi scandal,
and then details the gun-running for terrorists campaign that is being covered up by both
sides of the phoney political spectrum. Don't miss this quick-moving breakdown of the
truth behind Benghazigate...

Sources:
http://www.corbettreport.com/intervie...

[Cidersomerset]

Hey Cider, fyi,
I posted the False Flags Don't Fly Video yesterday
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...lags-Don-t-Fly

I did not see it , but is a important subject .......



The TruthSeeker: A BRIEF HISTORY OF FALSE FLAG ATTACKS

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Published on 30 May 2014


False flag attacks occur when government engages in covert operations designed to
deceive the public in such a way that the operations seem as if they are being
carried out by other entities.

False flag terrorism is a favorite political tactic used by governments worldwide.
They influence elections, guide national and international policy, and are cynically
used to formulate propaganda and shape public opinion as nations go to war.
For more info on the subject see | http://www.infowars.com/a-brief-histo...
This video was first posted by RT on 18 May 2014

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The Corbett Report Reviews "The Lone Gladio"

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Published on 24 Sep 2014


James Corbett of corbettreport.com gives his review of FBI whistleblower and
BoilingFrogsPost.com founder Sibel Edmonds' new novel, "The Lone Gladio."
Purchase your copy today at: http://www.thelonegladio.com/


To view the Gladio B interview series, please visit:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

[Cidersomerset]

Another of the link reports James links to on ISIS article at top of thread.....


Who Is Really Behind the Syrian War?

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Published on 30 Aug 2013


SHOW NOTES AND MP3: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7893

Given that the pretext for attacking Syria is falling apart before the public's eyes,
why is the US preparing to wage war on that country? Who benefits from the
ongoing destabilization of Assad's government? What will the Middle East look
like if the Sunnis take over Syria? What is Israel's role in this? What do Turkey,
Qatar and Saudi Arabia have to gain from a war in Syria? And what does Bandar
Bush have to do with all of this? Join us today on The Corbett Report as we discuss
these and other pressing issues as the world stands on the brink of yet another
US-led Middle Eastern military adventure.

[naste.de.lumina]

James Corbett (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q)

Good morning, Mr. President. I'm a representative of the shadow government that put you into power. Did you ever wonder how we keep people fighting with each other? Or obeying our silly rules? Or actually loving their captors and slavemasters? This morning we're going to brief you on just that. Are you ready to begin?

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Visit: CorbettReport.com (http://corbettreport.com/)

[ExomatrixTV]

Naomi Wolf reacts to criticism for Isis 'conspiracy theories' after she questions whether beheading videos are real


http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8121229.ece/alternates/w620/Naomi%20Wolf.jpg

The author suggested that Isis victims and their parents could be actors, and that the videos were 'staged by the US government'

~source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/naomi-wolf-reacts-to-criticism-for-isis-conspiracy-theories-after-she-questions-whether-beheading-videos-are-real-9778064.html

She wrote (https://www.facebook.com/naomi.wolf.author?fref=ts):
"The US benefits from … us being SO DAMN SCARED so that our intelligence agencies can take away the last of our freedoms on behalf of corporate interests the way intelligence agencies in the West are doing all over ... Britain, Canada, Australia, next NZ ... so there you are."

[ExomatrixTV]

~see also: http://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/6909837/naomi-wolf-isis-ebola-scotland-conspiracy-theories :spy:
(http://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/6909837/naomi-wolf-isis-ebola-scotland-conspiracy-theories)

[KiwiElf]

The US benefits from … us being SO DAMN SCARED so that our intelligence agencies can take away the last of our freedoms on behalf of corporate interests the way intelligence agencies in the West are doing all over ... Britain, Canada, Australia, next NZ ... so there you are."

Interesting - it would seem that our government (NZ) is being drawn in to the "War on ISIS" - despite the Kiwi public objecting at large, "the NZ govt will have the final decision". Are we being "coerced" into doing it?

Video & related articles at link

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11338441

Government alone to decide on Isis fight
11:42 AM Tuesday Oct 7, 2014


Any plan to commit New Zealand assistance to US-led efforts against Islamic State (Isis) militants in Iraq will likely be debated in Parliament but the ultimate decision is the Government's alone, Prime Minister John Key says.

Mr Key has not ruled sending the SAS to Iraq but this morning said he was likely to get advice on the options for New Zealand's assistance this week.

Key: SAS could join Isis fight on ground
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His executive would make a decision over what to do in the next couple of weeks, but not at the first Cabinet meeting.

Mr Key said New Zealand's decision would probably pre-empt any formal US request for particular assistance.

"My preference would be to move to a position where New Zealand determines what it's going to do, if anything, and then takes those steps as opposed to someone particularly asking us to do things."

The process of making that decision "could lead to a Parliamentary debate" and Mr Key said it would be his preference to have backing for any assistance from across the House, "although often it will depend on what steps that we took on who was likely to join us".

Read more:
• Key: SAS could join Isis fight on ground

"In a Parliament that's as diverse as our one you're probably never going to get every political party and Member of Parliament supporting whatever steps you take."

Mr Key said the decision was ultimately for his Government to make and he wouldn't be seeking a mandate from Parliament on potential military assistance.

Sending troops to Iraq was "at outer edge of what I'd like to do".

There were "other options that were far more appropriate and realistic".

Meanwhile Labour MP Phil Goff says any law changes around New Zealanders travelling overseas to fight should distinguish between those fighting against oppressive regimes like that of President Bashar al-Assad's in Syria and those joining groups guilty of war crimes or terrorism like Isis.

Mr Key has signalled he will soon unveil law changes to tackle "glaring deficiencies", around the cancellation of New Zealand based foreign fighters' passports.

He said yesterday he wanted to reform SIS legislation, preferably with Labour's support.

Mr Goff said there would be a case for strengthening legislation to deal with people intending to fight for groups guilty of war crimes and terrorism, "but you've got to be careful that you don't use legislation to have a blanket suppression of those who are simply aiming to fight alongside friends and family against an oppressive regime.

"I think you can distinguish between the two different circumstances and ought to do so."

Mr Goff also said Mr Key was offered Labour's support for GCSB law changes last year, "but only made a token gesture toward it", so he was sceptical that Mr Key was now seeking Labour's support for SIS legislation changes in good faith.

Labour was open to discussing improvements in SIS legislation as long as there were safeguards against the abuse of power but it still wanted a wide-ranging review of New Zealand's intelligence and security apparatus.

Green Party Co-leader Russel Norman said Mr Key's handing of key aspects of his intelligence and security work to Attorney General Chris Finlayson as part of yesterday's Cabinet reshuffle were "a clear admission of his own failings of oversight''.

"It's a tragedy that he didn't do it earlier."

He said Mr Key's suggestions of law changes around foreign fighters seemed an extraordinary step and part of a pattern seen overseas ``in terms of the very heightened level of rhetoric coming out of particularly Britain but also Australia.

"We'll see what's in the legislation as to whether it's really necessary or whether it's more a political instrument."

- NZ Herald

[Cardillac]

of course this all staged; honies, I work professionally in the world of theater so I can't tell you enough how easy it is to present an illusion to the general public that/who subsequently believe the illusion is reality; all you have to do is 'frame' an illusion (TV screen, film screen, stage portal or store window) and people are sucked into an illusion- anyone not yet wondered from where the term "being framed" came?- we won't go there today...

[RunningDeer]

:bump:
James Corbett is entertaining and spot on with his message. (Note: It's a review for some.) Thanks, naste.de.lumina and Gio, too (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=885594&viewfull=1#post885594).


James Corbett (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q)

Good morning, Mr. President. I'm a representative of the shadow government that put you into power. Did you ever wonder how we keep people fighting with each other? Or obeying our silly rules? Or actually loving their captors and slavemasters? This morning we're going to brief you on just that. Are you ready to begin?

qAJT77FSvxs
Visit: CorbettReport.com (http://corbettreport.com/)

[Curious77]

With the long list of false flag operations by US -- not just over last decades but
across the globe since the end of WWII/Operation Gladio -- and since the stealing of this land from its natives and the enslavement of Africans on this land -- there should be growing suspicion of every one of these events.

This will be used, of course, to ridicule Naomi Wolf.

And, thanks for the pic cause both Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein can often be confused as they have both been involved in writings to warn the public of the fascism settling in here.

Not the most flattering pic I've ever seen of Ms. Wolf, either.