SocGen's Albert Edwards: The U.S. Public Is About To Revolt

[truthseekerdan]

Albert Edwards of Societe Generale thinks U.S. citizens are on the brink of a political revolt, based on a declining standard of living brought on by an inefficient economic relationship with China.

Here's why, according to Edwards:

This would happen in any nation where a vision of prosperity has been shown to be a Ponzi sham, engineered by the authorities to help disguise the fact that the rich have been getting a whole lot richer.

What Edwards sees is the depressed state of the U.S. citizen getting worse. He sees unemployment rising and another recession near.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/socgens-albert-edwards-says-the-us-public-is-about-to-revolt-2010-10

[Elandiel BernElve]

You wouldn't be the first!

La France is in chaos as we speak:
http://www.france24.com/en/france
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/oct/19/french-strikes-protests-live

They are fed up with bailing out of banks while the people have to work longer now.
French still work not as long as other Western European country but that doesn't make them lazy.

Quit saying they are lazy, they are damn right to say 40 years of work is enough.

I think we all agree that the economic system that enslaves people to work more than 40 years of their life is far from humane.

The only thing I wonder is when US citizens will start and demonstrate, sometimes it feels like there's so much fear of the government there, nobody dares to go out on the street.
(Or maybe it does happen and I just never see it on any news?)

Don't get me wrong, anyone setting buildings, cars and shops on fire, looting them and randomly attacking people should be severely punished.
(in the case of France, I can say that's happening by ethnic minorities who just come to riot. Just another of France's problems)

But it's the right of the people to say "no more" on the streets and go out and at least, provoke a little tension:)

[truthseekerdan]

Gerald Celente: We're Living on Borrowed Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lZbRXlG1RY)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lZbRXlG1RY

[Martin]

Albert Edwards of Societe Generale thinks U.S. citizens are on the brink of a political revolt, based on a declining standard of living brought on by an inefficient economic relationship with China.

Here's why, according to Edwards:

This would happen in any nation where a vision of prosperity has been shown to be a Ponzi sham, engineered by the authorities to help disguise the fact that the rich have been getting a whole lot richer.

What Edwards sees is the depressed state of the U.S. citizen getting worse. He sees unemployment rising and another recession near.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/socgens-albert-edwards-says-the-us-public-is-about-to-revolt-2010-10


And so it is in nearly all the industrialized western states. Central europe is right now seeing massive demonstrations and hopefully the coming winter won't cool things down. That said it seems quit logical to expect some sort of bigger impact event in the next week or months to come. As I have said earlier maybe the 27th of october really is a date to look out for ... I just can not imagine how "they" could let that one go by. Sadly most people still have no idea about the real deal concerning the agenda plotted against them, but things will change for sure. But it is still a long way to go for all of us. Good luck to you all!

Edit: I just remembered this interview with Nigel Farage and he also expects something to happen between now and christmas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5kZlvSvXA


MfG

MU

[truthseekerdan]

CNN Official Interview: Jon Stewart visits with Larry King FULL Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2wp-ZYwDk)

Have you seen Larry King laugh so much? Watch this! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2wp-ZYwDk

[Operator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2wp-ZYwDk

"This video contains content from Turner CNN, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

How did they know I was on mars and why can't we see here what's going on on earth ? :rolleyes:

[Fredkc]

The situation defies belief.

Imagine a self-proclaimed, sovereign, free people (one of only 2, or 3 such groups existing on the planet), who through complacency and ignorance, have completely forgotten their true nature. Who now sit quietly waiting for their creation to 'give back' what they have allowed themselves to conned out of, by that very creation.

I have heard them cry for revolt against their own creation for decades, as they become ever increasingly poorer.

Why would you need to revolt against your own creation? Fantasy. You simply create anew that which was intended to serve you, not the other way around.

The belief that revolt is necessary is an indication the will to do so doesn't exist. That if it does is miss-placed. You don't "revolt" against your car, your house, or your frying pan. Neither do you "swear off" using any of these, simply because they no longer serve the intended purpose. You re-apply your energies and either fix, or replace. Lamenting over how your 'worn out' possessions can no longer serve you will not yield one that will. To do so is a miss-understanding of the relationship between creator, and creation's intended use.


Review of basics:
America is a collection of free, sovereign people.
There is no qualifying statement required. None that improves upon this condition.

As such, we are free to create "servant entities" to accomplish agreed upon goals. Entities which are not free, not sovereign, and are not free to create beyond our intended use. Tyranny is the illusion we "owe" this entity something. But, while tyranny requires permission, complacency and ignorance will do the job.

America has already created the most perfect "agreement" for providing what this kind of entity can, and should provide. Although our creation has slipped its bonds this agreement has existed since 1789.

Given this, a revolution is unnecessary, and self-defeating. What is required is a revival. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But... if'n you refuse to use it, then why complain?

There is no replacement for freedom, there are only poor substitutes. The call for revolt, seems mostly about replacing one nanny with another. It seems yet another kind of surrender to the 'created'. Perhaps freedom is too heady a quest? Even false promises will ease unreasoned fear, for a time. Such is what we've settled for.

Freedom offers no such relief. Explains why it scares so many. But a revival of freedom, the courage to exercise it, devil take the hindmost, will fix much, and put current fears in their proper perspective. Failure to do this lies at the heart of why we all get poorer every day.

The Creator did not make us imperfect. Freedom gives heart to realizing that. What else is worthy of us?

Fred
(getting off soap box, and heading for more coffee)

[truthseekerdan]

"This video contains content from Turner CNN, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

How did they know I was on mars and why can't we see here what's going on on earth ? :rolleyes:

Hey Operator, can you use a proxy server? Let me know if you can see this vid. TIA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg


I have heard them cry for revolt against their own creation for decades, as they become ever increasingly poorer.

Relax Fred, I for one like many others want a big change not a revolt. I'm a peaceful person...:wub:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM0Z75KEd_o

[Fredkc]

Hey Dan.

Having spent a good deal of time on subjects like this, my soap box is always within reach. Old habits... etc.

Two things always ring bells when the subject comes up, though.
"America is a collection of free, sovereign people."
This begs a question:
As such, exactly who would we rebel against?

Then another:
Who, on the national political scene, would you trust to author a better agreement than the one that currently exists?

IMO, the only "intelligent" answer to both questions is "No one!" ;)

So, I have embarked on a 2 1/2 decade long quest to get people to go give-a-think, and try and get smarter before they act.

I'm a sucker for a good quest. ;)
Be well,
Fred

[truthseekerdan]

"America is a collection of free, sovereign people."
This begs a question:
As such, exactly who would we rebel against?

FEAR -- "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."


Then another:
Who, on the national political scene, would you trust to author a better agreement than the one that currently exists?


"No government can help the destinies of people who insist in putting sectional and class consciousness ahead of general weal." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

[JoshERTW]

You wouldn't be the first!

The only thing I wonder is when US citizens will start and demonstrate, sometimes it feels like there's so much fear of the government there, nobody dares to go out on the street.
(Or maybe it does happen and I just never see it on any news?)



I wonder the same thing, but then I also remember that "the revolution will not be televised."

Plus I don't have a TV :p

[Operator]

Hey Operator, can you use a proxy server?

Yes, I can and did ... video is streaming now.


Let me know if you can see this vid. TIA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg


Yes, this video streams without proxy .... but it is from another user ...
Some manipulation seems to be involved.

[Jonathon]

The situation defies belief.

Imagine a self-proclaimed, sovereign, free people (one of only 2, or 3 such groups existing on the planet), who through complacency and ignorance, have completely forgotten their true nature. Who now sit quietly waiting for their creation to 'give back' what they have allowed themselves to conned out of, by that very creation.

I have heard them cry for revolt against their own creation for decades, as they become ever increasingly poorer.

Why would you need to revolt against your own creation? Fantasy. You simply create anew that which was intended to serve you, not the other way around.

The belief that revolt is necessary is an indication the will to do so doesn't exist. That if it does is miss-placed. You don't "revolt" against your car, your house, or your frying pan. Neither do you "swear off" using any of these, simply because they no longer serve the intended purpose. You re-apply your energies and either fix, or replace. Lamenting over how your 'worn out' possessions can no longer serve you will not yield one that will. To do so is a miss-understanding of the relationship between creator, and creation's intended use.


Review of basics:
America is a collection of free, sovereign people.
There is no qualifying statement required. None that improves upon this condition.

As such, we are free to create "servant entities" to accomplish agreed upon goals. Entities which are not free, not sovereign, and are not free to create beyond our intended use. Tyranny is the illusion we "owe" this entity something. But, while tyranny requires permission, complacency and ignorance will do the job.

America has already created the most perfect "agreement" for providing what this kind of entity can, and should provide. Although our creation has slipped its bonds this agreement has existed since 1789.

Given this, a revolution is unnecessary, and self-defeating. What is required is a revival. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But... if'n you refuse to use it, then why complain?

There is no replacement for freedom, there are only poor substitutes. The call for revolt, seems mostly about replacing one nanny with another. It seems yet another kind of surrender to the 'created'. Perhaps freedom is too heady a quest? Even false promises will ease unreasoned fear, for a time. Such is what we've settled for.

Freedom offers no such relief. Explains why it scares so many. But a revival of freedom, the courage to exercise it, devil take the hindmost, will fix much, and put current fears in their proper perspective. Failure to do this lies at the heart of why we all get poorer every day.

The Creator did not make us imperfect. Freedom gives heart to realizing that. What else is worthy of us?

Fred
(getting off soap box, and heading for more coffee)

Spot on Fred.

The system itself is perfect the way it is (or as perfect as a system can be made) -- it allows for the unlimited capacity to create and contract while observing the authority and right to also do absolutely nothing and be taken care of in the process! We are force fed argument after argument after argument about the system. Systems don't mean squat! They are fluid and can be changed at any time! It's the capacity of those operating in the system that matters. Therein lies the problem. The system is set up so that each individual has the power to effect enormous change -- as a point of fact, the system is fully based on the individual. You are the grantor/creator of the various trusts set up on your behalf and therefore have the exclusive authority to alter the bylaws, property and various positions of the trust at ANY given time. The problem we have is 1) chronic complacency which over time has brought us into ignorance -- hell no one even knows what a trust is and what authority they have, 2) appointed fiduciaries who are more than happy to allow us to be complicit with their antics - now to the point where they are fully entrenched and expanding their roles while we acquiesce. People believe (as I once did) that voting is the answer. It isn't!!! It's the capacity to remove public officials that aren't performing as directed that holds all of the weight! This isn't as difficult as it sounds. It takes two people - a claimant and a witness. Granted the claimant must have the knowledge and the mud to enforce it.

Revival, yes! A renaissance of responsibility. In my humble opinion, we are entering the age of responsibility. Whether by choice (pro-actively - revival - unification) or by force (re-actively - revolution - separation), do not doubt that the fork in the road is upon us! It is becoming easier and easier to see that things are coming to a head... it's simply a matter of how the hands are played. How are you going to play your hand? Are we going to argue? Fight? Complain? Sit quietly? Or will we take responsibility? Do we even know what that means? Who and what are we allowing to do this for us? These are fundamental questions for all of us and perhaps not so easy to answer. Most of us lack the time and energy to truly address these questions in their deepest contexts, much less actually do something about the answers, however that is the hand we have been dealt. We can play it or we can allow it to be played on our behalf by another who likely doesn't have our best interest in mind.

[Jonathon]

If I may add further:

A maxim of law: "He who fails to assert his rights has none."

Sovereignty is not governed nor is it granted. A piece of paper does not make you sovereign. Neither does a 'claim' to sovereignty. Your actions determine whether you are sovereign or not at EVERY given moment.

[norman]

Pastor Lindsey Williams has just reported a few updates from his "dying old man on the 'inside'" source:

Oil is ( as of now ) rapidly going up to $200 a barrel

Gold and Silver are still very cheap compared to where they will be in another year or two.

Iran is back on the front burner and a war is expected in about 4 - 5 months.

The Federal reserve charter expires in 2013

The Fed will own every mortgage in America very soon

The rate of insiders v outsiders doing trade on Wall Street was 400/1 a month ago, it's just been 1600/1 last week. ( they are bailing out like there's no tomorrow! )

Russia and China have just signed a deal for Russia to supply all China's energy needs and the deal exlcudes the use of dollars.

Janet Napolitano has told a good friend to go home and stock her home with 6 months food and water, when asked why, she said " I can't tell you, just do it "

The "timeline" has been moved forward again because 'their' greatest fear is that the American people get active and revolt before they are completely too poor to do it.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well, it has been rather amazing watching one family after another hit financial rock bottom...

First is the sorrow of loss...
Then the anger - (Tea partiers are still at this stage, angry as heck, their piles of cash dwindling and instead of dumping tea and standing up to take back America from the Fed... They've been spun in a circle and pointed at a person to get angry at...)

Then comes the point where most of us are... Sitting back and laughing watching soo many scrambling to stay on the wheel...

People are finding out who their truest friends are and reconnecting with family...

When Americans stop spending...

only the rich get hurt...

That is our awakening... and our revolt...

[norman]

................When Americans stop spending...

only the rich get hurt...

That is our awakening... and our revolt...

I think the ultra rich won't feel a thing. They picked up sticks and left, and pulled up the draw bridge in October 2008. They don't even value money, as such, they know better than most that it's just a white rabbit trick and they're the guys in the black tail suits.

When we stop spending money it's the most successful of the, nearly, new rich that will run out of tracktion. They'll all flop back into this fold the rest of us are in. And we ARE in it, right up to the axels.

It's looking so bad I really find myself questioning the whole ET thing and wondering if it's all been a device to get us chasing rabbits around in circles and so effectively make us all stand down during the period that we could have stopped this.

The more I learn about what's happening with these 'elite', the more I realise that the chesslike game they play is very very clever. I've always been capable of being quite bright but I've been dulled all my life by scaling my cognitifity according to social norms around me here at the bottom deck of life. Just as I'm getting too old to actually DO anything much about my situation, I'm seeing that those higher and more sophisticated thoughts and connections that I once thought were sparks of my own 'genious' were only the beginnings of proper intelligence that is guarded and elusive but perfectly 'normal'.

I feel as if I lived my whole life in a cognitively decapitated society. That's mainly due to the official secrecy game that excludes us from the essential bits of intel that allow us to properly join up the dots and so to be intelligently sane.

As society is right now, to be an outsider who joins all the dots they can, is to be, socially insane. The decapitation of society has severely ruined the minds and lives of most 'little' people with enough intelligence to be 'confused' by it. In sad cases, it's actually driven people right around the bend, and without ever knowing why.

I'd refrase your entire summing up statement with this:

When we stop taking in our neighbor's laundry we'll learn to take care of ourselves.

[Operator]

It's looking so bad I really find myself questioning the whole ET thing and wondering if it's all been a device to get us chasing rabbits around in circles and so effectively make us all stand down during the period that we could have stopped this.

Same thought here ....

But then again there's lots of proof of ancient aliens ... from before all this high tech stuff. However what if they only hyped the old stuff to proportions
that we only 'believe' they must be still here ?

My final thought is that all this doubt is ultimately the goal ... in this state people will finally give up because they made you feel uncertain and insecure.
It's a way to mentally break people. Just an old trick.

[Luke]

Same thought here ....

But then again there's lots of proof of ancient aliens ... from before all this high tech stuff. However what if they only hyped the old stuff to proportions
that we only 'believe' they must be still here ?

My final thought is that all this doubt is ultimately the goal ... in this state people will finally give up because they made you feel uncertain and insecure.
It's a way to mentally break people. Just an old trick.

Indeed. The "super black technology" is dangled before our eyes, among other things. Just like toy for a child. Behave or you won't be given it .. and by behave they mean become 100% obedient drone. Same goes for "benevolent aliens" and that stuff. It all boils down to "sit tight and wait for rescue".

Way I see it, till we start figure out things on our own, build things on our own and how we like it, we would be just slaves, no matter who will be in charge.

Time for understand role of every single one of us as free sovereign individual, making his own choices and bearing consequences of his own actions only.

[ascendingstarseed]

The revolt that's "anticipated" has been incited by pawns for the elite, especially Limbaugh and Beck who won't be happy until they see blood running down the streets of America. Everyday they and others like them spread hate, fear and lies targeted to inflame the emotions of millions of ill-informed, unenlightened people who are already stressed out, in debt up to their ears and witnessing their whole world crumbling in front of them. There are 500 right wing stations in the US pumping out racism, lies and hate to make people angry; but, there are only 50-75 progressive radio stations actually trying to educate people with the truth in an honest, straightforward manner. As a result of a lack of credible information, mainly in rural America and in the South most people are confused, misinformed, many are uneducated. The mass media is entirely owned and operated by only 6 different corporations, all have right-wing ownership, and they have all been DELIBERATELY playing on peoples fear, worry and anger knowing that in time people will get fed up and revolt. They are master at manipulation and deceit who have managed to dumb down and inflame millions of people. Even the progressive stations are owned by conservatives - it's all about profit, and if they can control the content the left is putting out that's all the better for them too. That way no one will go toooo far to the left and kick their sadistic, greedy butts.

Two years ago Bush called home troops to train for violence on the streets of America...this is something they've seen coming - IMO they want civil war. The whole divide and conquer strategy with the bully's on the right, beating up on the peace lovers on the left has worked. They use psy-ops and various other mind control techniques to push peoples buttons and get people to fight amongst each other; all while they rob the country blind, spy on us while taking our personal freedoms away, launch illegal wars, steal elections, off shore our jobs, give enormous tax breaks to the wealthy while forcing the middle class into poverty...mean while they have us confused, dumbed-down, distracted and fighting with each other instead of addressing the issues and collectively demanding an end to the corruption by booting their butts to the curb.

Of course the PTB want a revolt, that way they can fill up those FEMA camps and keep the military machine profitable so fascism can finally take a complete and total hold on America. The last 30 years under conservatism has been a plan to get us where we are today, to a state of corporate fascism. It's been slow and methodical, we're the frog in boiling water....they're just turning up the heat very slowly so most people won't notice what's happening until it's too late. Then they'll revolt because they'll realize they've been taken for fools, won't be purdy either.

Personally, I pray for peace and visualize some kind of intervention before it gets that far...

[Elandiel BernElve]

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Originally Posted by Operator
Same thought here ....

But then again there's lots of proof of ancient aliens ... from before all this high tech stuff. However what if they only hyped the old stuff to proportions
that we only 'believe' they must be still here ?

My final thought is that all this doubt is ultimately the goal ... in this state people will finally give up because they made you feel uncertain and insecure.
It's a way to mentally break people. Just an old trick.
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Originally Posted by Luke
Indeed. The "super black technology" is dangled before our eyes, among other things. Just like toy for a child. Behave or you won't be given it .. and by behave they mean become 100% obedient drone. Same goes for "benevolent aliens" and that stuff. It all boils down to "sit tight and wait for rescue".
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You are creating a desperate world for yourselves when accepting those ideas as your reality.
As the masses don't know about super black tech, they can't be held dangling in front of their eyes like toys in front of a baby.

The PTB and elites were driving a metophorical car they could control for a long time, now they've lost control because they've exceeded any reasonable speed putting everyone in jeopardy.
They have lost control and are as scared as anyone to crash. The car now accelerates on its own until it gets stopped by something.

Right now the winds of change are blowing over the surface of the planet. Sometimes violently.
Our personal lives change, our society changes, our conscienceness changes. The times are dynamic! No doubts there..
Do you seriously start to doubt that in the vast universe no life exists? That the ptb have made it all up? All those millions of sightings that took place were just scams to get them richer?
it would be a pitty my friends to conclude they have you all in their grasp now. Fearing Truth, fearing others, believing nothing, lost hope, no faith, only despair. nothing is as it seems.
The next thing you are going to say is that inf act you are mere matter and slave of elites? Diminishing yourselves to nothing again...
What the hell man.. I hope not..

They are the lie! Truth will prevail and the people eventually will get power back. This planet will be a civilized one under a banner of many different cultures of mankind.
Space age is coming and slavery will end. We have never been alone, we are not alone nor will we be alone.

It's all scary and tense what's going on but it's necessary as a transformation to new ways. Don't give in now fellow Avalonians.
Trust yourself, trust your heart, trust your friends and fellow pioneers. There will be a day the world might call upon you for guidance.
Make sure you will be there.

[Lost Soul]

I contend that the situation we are in today is a product of some long term planning. First, the Americans as a whole has been dumbed down by the education system. The older generation was taught to save their money so they could pay cash for something (deferment of reward for a later time). The modern generation wants it now and won't wait. Easy credit was used to seduce many down this reckless path. Another aspect of this dumbing down is that people were encouraged to become dependent on government for support. Social security, medicare/medicaid, unemployment insurance, food stamps (dignity cards), public housing projects, were part of a program that served both as a safety net and steered people away from self-dependency. Earlier Americans would scoff at such proposals. They didn't want a hand. They wanted an opportunity.

Second, the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking system transferred the Treasury's ability to control the money supply to a collection of private banks. These same self-serving banks encouraged reckless spending by keeping the interest rates artificially low. Alongside with the creation of the bank was a taxation system. Did you know that the amendment that legalized income tax was never properly ratified? I wouldn't challenge taxes on that basis. Peter Schiff's father did and is sitting in prison, broke and unable to challenge its constitutionality before the Supreme Court. However, by creating the IRS and the recent Obamacare (15,000 more IRS employees), we now have government tentacles that will monitor every transaction greater than $600. With hyper-inflation upon us, that means virtually any and all transactions.

Third, false flag events that puts us on a near war or war footing - just like Orwell's book 1984. We have to watch out for the "enemy" and Homeland Security is just what we need for our guardian angles. I remember reading in the '80s that FEMA was building camps for dissidents. Thank you Jimmy Carter for creating that monstrosity.

Remember, nothing happens by accident.

We the People deserve what is going to happen. We've fallen asleep at the wheel, keep voting in incumbents and have been lulled into believing that the two parties are actually on the different sides of the political spectrum. They may have started that way (Democrats would have allowed the South to secede and keep the slaves and the Republicans of Abraham Lincoln felt otherwise), but are now controlled by the same puppet masters. Folks, listen to Gerald Celente and know your history.