A question about dreaming

[The One]

Some advice on this please

Last night I had a peculiar conversation with my friend about dreams. I won’t make this a long post so I will get to the point.

My friend said when you dream you can remember some of them and where you have been in your dream and I agreed. Then she said think about all the dreams you have had and can you remember anytime that you can remember yourself breathing in your dreams.

At first I thought what a strange thing to ask I then tried to remember all the dreams I have had and I can’t remember or recall me breathing in any of my dreams.

[JoshERTW]

Interesting concept. I've had some success in becoming lucid in dreams by noticing mundane things like this that are amiss. The idea is you stay aware during your waking hours, ask yourself every so often "is this normal, am I awake" maybe even "am I breathing right now?" If you are not, you know its a dream. It seems like a weird concept, generally you know when you are awake right? But if you challenge reality in your waking conciousness, you will remember to do the same in your dream state, and it helps you to have lucid dreams, maybe even learn something important.

Keeping a dream log has also made my dreams much more vivid. Admittedly the last month or so I've been slacking, filled a whole journal since December of last year though, and going back through them I see some of them have come true in one form or another, or that I've learned some lesson since then. Its very cool stuff, I wish I'd thought to go into "dreams" as a field of scientific study when I was younger. Though I'm sure its full of rigid thought processes like any other branch of 'mainstream' science.

[Carmody]

To be polite*, it is possible to say 'in many cases' that dreams are, for our purposes, a right brain activity when it come to the doorway of reflective recall.

This means they will be tied to 'feel' and the aspect of lateral or artistic considerations. At least at first, until one manages to understand the ego construct in total, so to frame it's influence and then get it out of the way. When the ego is out of the way, the so called dream medium can then be fully integrated with and manipulated in a conscious state.

This is due to the fact that it is a dimensional doorway and it , by it's very nature MUST encompass BOTH sides of the wave-particle duality. This involves meditation and thus is a OOB (Out Of Body) state where the body and thus the ego is sleeping, ie the ego is body function so it is turned off and the spirit is connected to the conscious state of mind and can manipulate and interpret. As soon as the body awakens, the ego comes on line and colors everything. So when sleeping and feeling the cobwebs, the lack of control of the body, (the whole body buzzing, not being able to feel the body) this is the sign that you are starting to reach the 'sleepless' state. And stepping into conscious manipulation of the doorway called the mind.


In this universe, it is our impetus of will and personal intensity on the deepest level that spirals reality into being, and this by necessity requires one to be firing on all cylinders, this means linear and in equal balance LATERAL thinking. So put the measuring stick down and get lateral artistic funky on yo' self.

This is why the artist, the dreamer, the mystic, etc.. forced to live in the linear scientific world is ridiculed but they can reach the dream world, the purgatory of the soul, the ghost realms the astral realms. This is due to their being more mentally balanced than the pure linear minded thinking set.

This thinking set was brought 'on line' not a few years and not a few feet from the creation of the Illuminati in Germany in the 1800's. It is known as the 'rote learning system' (do as you are told, do not think, just remember what you are told!!!!) and was a memory function linear minded system..called 'the German School of thought'. It was brought on line to churn out engineers, who are not designed to think or question, but to do things, and do things only. And the things done, are works created through the use of immutable and unquestionable 'facts' in engineering application texts. It was not theory or progressive thought, it was do this, do this, do this. Don't ever do anything else. This ended up being deeply integrated into theoretical physics an and science and polluted all scientific theories into the nightmare called 'scientific law'.

So, in essence, mainstream science is at great fault right now, as it is centered on the idea that the only valid viewpoint is anything that can be validate and understood through a purely linear mindset and analysis systems. Which patently ignores, ridicules, derides, and debases 50% of human function. Considering that the scholastic and university system is deeply impregnated and controlled by linear thinkers and Freemasons (Einstein directly alluded to such in a speech), this is not going to change any time soon. As max Planck said, "science advances, funeral by funeral". (when the old die and release their grip, then a small amount of change can happen in science)

No scientific law of any kind exists, they are all theories and those who created them knew that and expressed them as such. This became religiously oriented, over time, (due to the fundamentals of human or animal function to turn things into god -societal norm-control-ego reflections and aspects) and they became immutable laws and this froze mankind's scientific development. Coincidence??? I think not!!!!


To get back to the point at hand, the slow and steady removal of the ego function , the ego which is a system that developed the core root connections to all that comes through that doorway of dimensions, when that ego is tamed so it ceases coloring and shifting the interpretations of the 'dreams', that is when you will achieve clarity in those points of understanding and then be able to use that information in a clear fashion. And even... turn about and manipulate those situations in those 'realms'....directly. Without the deep frightened scared and misinformed child that is coloring our experiences therein from damaging your attempts and vision.

The reason that those who do evil on and in this world 'do the things they do'... is because they don't even realize they have an ego function, the ego being the fears and desires of the autonomous functions of the base animal the human is based on. The ego is the voice of the body, with regard to the forming of the the voice in the head, and it descends down into the sub vocalizations and into the emotional murmurs that creep up into being sub-vocalizations. This means that every spoken thought and every pre-forming of those thoughts, in your head, is subject to being created and colored by an angry, frightened, fight or flight, desire or pain animal based on a a mammalian monkey chassis or device. Ie, the so-called human body.

The spirit body must also speak through the same mechanism, so the intellect and associated spirit must also form thoughts and words in your head via the same vehicle and thought formation systems..so the coloring is there ---again.

This is why it is so important to deal with the ego. As stated, the evil ones in this world are ego controlled (the why of their involvement in the Illuminati as they are controllable through their overt animalism at the core level) and have no recognition of the ego... as the ego prevents such due to the ego-body's fears of being turned off. Dealing with the ego... is, in essence, an actual real death to the ego, which means the world itself (to your body's viewpoint) in it's entirety dies, if the ego dies... so it fights with all the body and all of the mind's resources to prevent itself from being seen or known, and it does this a surely and as powerfully in every waking second and every thought formation... as permanently and as powerfully as one deals with gravity. It is permanent and never ending. Which is why it is so difficult to deal with the ego.

Hence Dolores Cannon's quip about people not actually being awake, at all. If you are living with an ego, you are asleep at the wheel. As somewhere in the area of +99.9% of the human race is.

is it any wonder that people can be manipulated via this mechanism? Knowing the problem is key. You have to know that first. I made a thread bout ego function in the human body.

It is on/in this forum area.

Not. One. Response.

That is how powerful the ego is.

If you want to see clearly through time and probability function and manipulate mind, matter, time, space, you have to tame your ego. It's a tall order and a strong impediment. It bars the animal at the door. But it is not impossible to get there. You simply have to learn to tame the beast within. A process we all have to go through.



*(polite ...means that one is not trying to say: 'linear thinkers stay home, you are wasting your time, it'll be like trying to light matches while under 50 feet of water--there is a chance it will happen, yes, but it is astronomically low)

[Carmody]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpTI3-H5ww

[Zook]

Hi Carmody,

One good video deserves another. On the topic of dreams, here's ABBA doing what they do best:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad9U3h2UmcA&feature=related

[Carmody]

The problem surrounds the point that the voice, words, formed word communication is in essence the voice of the body--speaking. Thus to clear the ego function, one cannot listen to anything that has recognizable human vocalizations that can be transmitted from or into the mind as 'linear' communications. No word vocalizations (that you can recognize or interpret) allowed.

Now, that scares and saddens almost anyone. doesn't it?

Can you see the depth of the problem?

But the freedom on the other side is worth every ounce of the pain of getting there. I'd do it again in heartbeat, over and over, as many times as it takes.

to reiterate, this has everything to do with dreams and to answer the original question, yes, one tends to not breathe in their dreams but one rarely recognizes breathing in this realm, either. it is part of the autonomous function. The spirit body's energy needs and wants also are autonomous, in the same way. Except they do not have the coloration of the ego and body thrust upon them.

But our interpretation of what goes on must come through the doorway of the physical monkey mind thought formation construct which is the angry/frightened small young child - within.

This becomes the return stroke of our interactions in those realms as well, when we try to integrate we must integrate through the same channel, and thus our actions and interactions on that level are also heavily colored by the child within. A double direction negative feedback mechanism, which is why it is important to tame that dang monkey.

The first step is understanding and accepting it's existence and working on remembering that in every waking moment. simply being aware of the ego issue and the monkey issue as I have outlined..this actually begins the process or healing and integration..and change. That's all it takes. Stay on target. The ego will try to drive you back into the somnambulistic (ego dream) state in less than 30 seconds. One has to stare pretty hard into the mirror of the self. Since it is a frightened monkey we are dealing with, its best to be gentle. Otherwise it won't work. Obviously, then..it can be seen how the "order through Chaos" Crew work on the opposite method.

Slowly, but surely..if one stays on target, and tries a little every day...you will even have to write yourself notes, maybe...as the ego function wants you to forget (are you getting this now? :p ).... Then you will begin to understand the deep influence in every motion and action of the self...and....The clearing will begin of it's own.

[Snowy Owl]

I will not share my studies on Dreams for now but I will share with you my Life as a Dreamer,

First i believe its worth it to start by 5 days of coma I had once.

For me I was not in hospital, I did not remember what brought me there but I was in the universe in search of Myself,

For me those five days have last about 1year and half. Once I got near a blue ind of planet I was rejoiced and I was convinced that I would find my body agian. But there was a problem, each time I got into a body I too the memories of it and it too me few days and once a couple of month to realised that this was not my world, not my memory nor my body. This realisation is extremely painfull and not fun at all, in my words I felt as if I have raped the individuality of someone. Once this realised, there I was again trying to find my body.

Finally I found this one, with this good memories, I am 99% sure it was me, everything maes sense.

Of course such an experience lead me to study Jung went to University and ARE of Edgar Cayce in Virginia Beach to at least uderstand what has happenned to me but to no avail.

So i decided to write all my dreams each night and my record is 12 dreams in one night.

My Dream book then went on the shelves, and about ten years ago I decided to digitilised with Word and put hyperlin on cocept that where similar.

I can assured you that in the morning I try to remember if in the previous day something evoe the dreams, then if some of my preoccupation evoe the dream and finnally I now understand that Dreams reequilibrate, autoregulate what we physically, emotionnally, intellectually and spiritually live.

Dream is lie a cruise control driving force that compensate what you live and the most benifit aspect of dreams is your instinct/intuition becomes very pertinent almost prescience, for instance, and I have tens of proofs of this yesterday I was 1 hou prior aware of the big earthquae of southern california, of course I had datas, but the driving forces of intuition was up like a soldier.

My 2 cents

Thank you

[pheonix]

Hi all,

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Astral Travel was akin to dreaming. Has anyone else any thoughts on this ?

I will post a link for anyone who may be interested in Astral Travel.

The Evolutionary Astral Travel : Methods for Out-of-Body-Experiences

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/astraltravel.pdf


Hope someone finds this interesting and/or helpful !

[Carmody]

Astral travel is controlled dreaming.

Uncontrolled astral travel is dreaming.

[FrankoL]

I
For me those five days have last about 1year and half. Once I got near a blue ind of planet I was rejoiced and I was convinced that I would find my body agian. But there was a problem, each time I got into a body I too the memories of it and it too me few days and once a couple of month to realised that this was not my world, not my memory nor my body. This realisation is extremely painfull and not fun at all, in my words I felt as if I have raped the individuality of someone. Once this realised, there I was again trying to find my body.

Thank you

Thanks for sharing it.

I think I know what you are talking about. I am experiencing this "phenomena" almost each night. Usually I am connected to a different person (it is not a connection, I am actually that person), interacting with people I don't know (in my reality), places I haven't been to.... Those events are connected to a strange or special event, so to speak (war situation, earthquake ...). If transferred to our time scale, it is days ...not a moment. It can be future and past. It doesn't matter.

Lately I have realize that my dreams turned to be real life events. I don't know how to explain it.

All of this is on strictly on purpose and not by any chance. It is like a hint. And there is always a reason behind. Which I have to figure it out (it is not served on a plate). I am still learning how to use the "ability".

Over the time I gained surplus of intelligence. I always get a best solution at my disposal. I can learn almost everything without a problem. I am not sure whether this has to do with dream state (but I think so).

Anyway sorry for my modesty, it is not my ego ;) It is a completely different story.

[Decibellistics]

Your friend has given you a reference item for you to look for within your dreams. Try to remember your dreams, and realize that reference item, then you'll probably go lucid.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I experience 2 different types of dreams, the black and white standard dreams and then the 4D type in full blown color and sound that I receive messages through.

In the second type of dream, I have heard my heart pounding... but I don't remember ever taking a breath...

When I have been searching for missing children the dreams come to me in full color and in future dreams, I travel with a guide...

[Snowy Owl]

I have experience quite many altered state of consciousness, lol

Breathing while dreaming is an objective coz once you decide to breath you will indeed have a memorable experience.

At least for me the inner hear blood pressure was heard as a whirlwind then of course there is the getting out of the body and the insecurity that goes with it. If you succeed to get over your fear and breath again it is like as if you know how to swim.

Then, please do not indulge in trying to go where the first idea ^pops up, focus on going to your accomplished self and chat with yourself accomplished and remember to ask yourself pragmatic question on how to resolve daily human condition and listen, do not judge, you will find an intimacy of understand and such an appropriate approach accordingly to your situation and relation. Give it a try.

[Arpheus]

What is this black and white dream that people speak of LOL?i have never had a single dream in my whole life that was black and white my dreams have always been in full color just like here in the 3D world,also i heard of some non sense that you dont experience taste or smell when dreaming,thats another non sense in my personal experience anyway.There is no gravity in 5d wich is where we go when we dream,and thats why we can fly when dreaming because the physics of that dimension are completely different then the physics of 3D,another thing you will notice is how the astral body is elastic like rubber,you can literally be like Reed richards from the comic Fantastic four and stretch your astral body to almost no limits if you are in control of your dreams,you should give it a try its a pretty fun thing to do actually hehe.You can teleport instantly with the power of your thoughts and the list goes on and on.

[Carmody]

Thanks for sharing it.

I think I know what you are talking about. I am experiencing this "phenomena" almost each night. Usually I am connected to a different person (it is not a connection, I am actually that person), interacting with people I don't know (in my reality), places I haven't been to.... Those events are connected to a strange or special event, so to speak (war situation, earthquake ...). If transferred to our time scale, it is days ...not a moment. It can be future and past. It doesn't matter.

Lately I have realize that my dreams turned to be real life events. I don't know how to explain it.

All of this is on strictly on purpose and not by any chance. It is like a hint. And there is always a reason behind. Which I have to figure it out (it is not served on a plate). I am still learning how to use the "ability".

Over the time I gained surplus of intelligence. I always get a best solution at my disposal. I can learn almost everything without a problem. I am not sure whether this has to do with dream state (but I think so).

Anyway sorry for my modesty, it is not my ego ;) It is a completely different story.

Awesome!

Now you're getting it!

That's the way it works. intelligence, and connection....explodes.

Keep it up, people!

You are walking through the world, the multiverse -of man right now... in a way that feels like you are wearing Seven League Boots that are 10 stories high. It is an awesome feeling to behold, it is a rush , a joy....that is impossible to truly communicate...is it not?

As for having your 'dreams' turn into real life events, you end up having some version of what is going to happen to you in the coming day, happen in the dreams of the night before, don't you? (or something quite similar) It's kinda like reading the tomorrow's newspaper of today's personal experiences of coming events...before you get up? You are beginning to see through time.

You are reading the potentials in time, ahead of the events that are to come in your personal life. You are breaking free of, in some ways, of the matrix of time and temporal linear time limitations.

Now ...you can begin to make changes. Real changes. Be wise.

[Carmody]

At least for me the inner hear blood pressure was heard as a whirlwind then of course there is the getting out of the body and the insecurity that goes with it. If you succeed to get over your fear and breath again it is like as if you know how to swim.



The point here (for others reading this) is to realize it is a giant unknown that is being seen and reflected through the human body... and the body sits un-occupied to a certain extent while 'stepping out' so the fear is absolutely fundamental and as deep as life itself. The fear shocks us awake and then dumps us unceremoniously back into our bodes. Besides the potential for coloration of the experience by the body itself.

[Victoria Tintagel]

If you want to see clearly through time and probability function and manipulate mind, matter, time, space, you have to tame your ego. It's a tall order and a strong impediment. It bars the animal at the door. But it is not impossible to get there. You simply have to learn to tame the beast within. A process we all have to go through.

Hey Carmody, I agree with this, yes! The taming of the beast, the dragons that guard the gold that is inside, the capacities to love freely, to stop hiding it. I have mentioned ealier here, that Archangel Michel holds the dragon at bay, not slaying it, with his sword. That holds great meaning for me.....would love to have a baby dragon with me, to light the fire......:)
I believe that by allowing "what is" (the state one is in) this saves tremendous energy, as "resistance is futile....." oh no, that was the Borg :)
Eckhart Tolle tells about it in his lecture The Power of NOW, very beautiful. Thanks for this thread The One :) Sunny Tint

[noxon medem]

some quotes on dreams:

" if you treat (are) the dreams like real, they are (become) real "
- unknown

" focusing on the hands, what they do and look like, is a practical advice,
if trying to gain consciousness in the dream (reality) "
- Skapmunken

( and Maybe better than the breath, initially, espescially if you in dream are under water .. )

" I have a dream ..."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

" I am a dream .. "
- Marilyn Monroe
...
and in the musical department:
Supertramp, Dreamer (1974)

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000109217/Supertramp-Dreamer-1974
or this link /same version:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=11256250
..
Dream on, dream on, float upstream .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCT6x0EdLpU
..
and may be this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFRK4cA0Dlg
..
- so now, what is the motto ?
"alive and aware, ready to share, anyway how it might play, today" ?
..

..

[I_Am]

There are many kinds of dreams and dreaming: From the daily recapitulating "flush" to symbolic freudian messages from your subconsiouns - to prophetic visions to true lucid awakening and controlling your dream body in altered states of consionsess. They are all important, but different tools for your soul and mind for different tasks.

Most mix them up big time.

That is one of the first step to take into the realm of the shamanic dreamers - learning to sorting your mind; awake as well as aslepp. Read Carlos Castaneda for instance, or Michael Harner.

[Snowy Owl]

Having being with two Alzheimer patients, one.s learn a lot. At an advance stage, if you nurture their Intelligence of the Heart you might indeed loose Mémories but not authenticity.

After 30 years in the Dream field I now understand that emotional recognition without memories is possible and dialogue within these parameters is possible, but one's as to keep the focus on the feeling not on memory and certainly not into memory activity like analysis.

Sense of belonging it so important, it is my main message.

Thank you

Snowy

[Dim4ik]

Í was draged to avalon becouse of this Thread.
i wanted to say that, i dont expirience something like breath in dreams, but in situations when i go under water surface i starting to drown, but than underwater i "rember" that i can breath under water, so i start breath and its like air breathing.

lately i am flying "levitating" and in last dream i wished to show myself to my mother, and it was like i changed my place and teleported to where was my mom in 14 years ago. the vilage i was living with my mother and father before i had my brothers,
so she was doing something near house i and fly to near her, like 2 meters away and call her, and she looks at my place and dont recognize me at all,
so she starting doing what she was doing, i stoped flying and steped on ground and called her again, she saw me and did all that mom love thing. xD

and than i chated with her for a while meanwhile we sat for lunch or so, there were some more people around the table. and i shouted mom i know how to fly,
than i just started levitating between table and chair. and mom said that she cant clearly see me becouse i am half transparent, so i sat on chair and she said
i can see u again and started laughing.
after that i dont realy remeber but i woke up at 02.35 and couldnt put myself to sleep till 04.00
and day before that after 05.00 till 06.30 when i woke up i was flying using this metod which i showed to my mom.


i dont only fly in my dreams, i also have dream to predict future and already changed future but in small scale, 10-20 people affection.

now i have something strange happening,in RealLife i can touch hot stuff and make my body feel it like cold or vice versa.
todays shower on full hot was like not so cold at all. strange, any hints? i am kind of lost.

[freespirit]

Wouldn't it be great to exist in a permanent dream state.There is no sense of time everything seems so temporal and immortal.

You all have my dream juices flowing I'm off to bed.

goodnight :yawn:

zzzzzzzz

[pheonix]

Hi freespirit, ( and all ),

Have you seen the film :- Waking Life ( Richard Linklater ) ?

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7583894250854515095#

A boy has a dream that he can float, but unless he holds on, he will drift away into the sky. Even when he is grown up, this idea recurs. After a strange accident, he walks through what may be a dream, flowing in and out of scenarios and encountering various characters. People he meets discuss science, philosophy and the life of dreaming and waking, and the protagonist gradually becomes alarmed that he cannot awake from this confusing dream.

Peace to you all.

[Rocky_Shorz]

lately i am flying "levitating" and in last dream i wished to show myself to my mother, and it was like i changed my place and teleported to where my mom was 14 years ago. the village i was living with my mother and father before i had my brothers, so she was doing something near house i and fly to near her, like 2 meters away and call her, and she looks at my place and don't recognize me at all, so she starting doing what she was doing, i stopped flying and stepped on ground and called her again, she saw me and did all that mom love thing. xD




The only difference between a dream and a projection is that the unconscious mind controls the dream whereas when you separate, you're consciously aware. That's why even after you separate from your physical body, you can slip into a "dream" which transfers control back to the unconscious mind. It's not that you've returned to your physical body just exchanged control.

People say that when they leave their body they see all sorts of strange things. Is this any different than a so called dream? We have locks on our physical doors to keep out the things we don't want, but in the astral, it's a free for all, unless you know how to construct your own boundaries. You may also see crazy things in the astral out of choice. If something is unpalatable to us, our unconscious mind will morph it for us. This is also why people block out their own past miseries and forget them completely on a conscious level.



astral projection story (http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/astraldreams.html)

[Dim4ik]

Your higher self knows where you are at in your cycle of growth and feeds you what you need to know at the perfect time. It doesn't project fears or biases onto you like a teacher might, nor does it rush you. ...
In physical awareness, I would not react as I do, but in the dream I do. When we've overcome our obstacles on a dream level, then we've worked out the lesson.
how far you still need to come in learning love???

thanks for all work i gave, you trigered my mind(myself=my being) to react.


i have physical interference i create myself before i go to sleep, so after i asleep i can easily come back to be aware of hapenning around me in dreams, every person has it, i am surre everyone has it
But its diferent for each and everyone as your inner self is totaly diferent from mine inner self.
i have day living expirience of setups i leave at night to exit non remebered dreams and those setups come from day living training <- bit confusing but is how it is
| icecream=>sweet=>like it=> girlfriend=> how is she?=> ok, where is my candy?=> nah, that was icecream (mmm) |analogy strange one .
-----------------------------------strange stuff apart------------------------
[QUOTE]
i had a dream i went to hell,i seen a wooden roped bridge above lava stream, seen guardians on other side of bridge, tricked them have no clue how but i offered something that they liked alot, passed by hells doors, while was spoted by hell dogs, fought some horde of monsters (i think with sword) and seen a big dragon demon(big=open mouth 2m from jaw to jaw), it wanted to eat me roared alot and i kinda was totaly calm, then it rushed at me but at 2 m distance from me with open jaws to eat and reap me apart it stoped, becouse i just offered him an apple(red one remeber clearly), he was so shocked that stoped and acepted it, i had 2 weeks real life night in night going to him, greating guards by my way, and bringing wooden basket full with apples that noone could see with me accept dragon-demon. we became friends, in middle of first weak i found teleporting cloud (for not making 3-7 hours walking all path to him) near some mountain(dragon made it for me as i figured out after) then he said he was lonely, so i brought my real life friends, trough portal at day 9, becouse i was something busy with,after some times friends managed to come by themselves to dragon-demon, than something went wrong i think something that those ppl i brought did bad ,but cloud desapeared, dreams about him stoped, after 2 month i forced myself from some dream to visit him(no clue how), i dont rember result=outcome i just rember everything from walking untill part when i passed near hells gates and than blank(black blank).

any clues how to triger memories back.

[witchy1]

I guess you could call me an avid dreamer - do I breathe - Oh yes at time very heavily:o
ever since I can remember - about 3 yrs old when I tried to fly down the passage at home and wondered why I didnt lift off and so it continues. IMHO dreams serve a number of purposes - firstly to reconcile the day if its been a rough one. secondly to receive messages thirdly to travel to other places and fourthly to gain general insight. If I want to know anything, I just ask before the sandman comes. Some of my more memorable ones (I could write a book):

after my last son was born (now 14) i was visited by 3 archangels and spoken to by Gabriel who gave me a choice as to wheather they would take him back or I could choose to keep him...clearly I choose to keep him. (a very complicated young man) others who arrived were michael and raphael. We all stood at 4 sides of the bassinett and it was a brief encounter. I am not in anyway tied to mainstream religion - I remeber feeling it was nice of them to ask rather that just take him
The place where we go to choose our babies - that was amazing mountain like structure filled with not yet born little ones and interstingly overseen by the creator - he was there and in the distance watching on. He is very big
on a planet (or other dimension) that was totally on fire - no it wasnt hell (that doesnt exist) the planet was burning
often that not the realms I visit merge or are superimposed into a place I am familiar with.(if you can imagine one realm as a mesh being lowered into another mesh and moving away again) So somehow Sydney merges with where I grew up - almost like like this is my space in the universe, and circumstances come to me. (when Im not of visiting other places) I know this is weird, I will think on this some more as its comes to me as I am typing. If anyone can assit with this I'd be interested.
I went thru a period of having really really terrifying ones as well. They stopped when Sam (our now 14 yr old) decided my bed was nicer than his. (he has his own bed now)
Anyway I could go on and on. I love dreamtime. Sorry if Ive rabbited on. This is the first time Ive actually shared this. Please dont think Im nutty.

[Rocky_Shorz]

naaa you aren't nutty, I hope everyone steps in and starts sharing dreams, through them is how we visit other dimensions...

I'm just curious how many times some of us have crossed paths through dreams...

I'm not an expert on helping others explain their dreams, but I am a Dreamer...

[witchy1]

Good question. For me, dreaming is ususally about me, which is quite opposed to my life on earth - where at times my empathy can be overwhelming and I can literally feel some elses pain. It took a long time to develp strategies to deal with that. I love dreams where I am able to do stuff I cant do here....apart from flying around the place - doncha love those ones where you can move stuff with your mind and or read someones elses thoughts.
As for other dimensions - there must be squillions of them - Im all over the place, but somehow crossstiched or intertwined into geophysical reality of where I am here and now at any given time. i beleive that the other dimensions are of times past and possible futures.

There must be many different scenarios for where we are now - and thats where I go in dreamtime - to the possibilities! I dont believe our future is set in concrete at any given point in time, there are just too many variables occuring simultaneously which ultimately effect the path of our current dimension. OR maybe the other dimensions are test cases for what might happen here. Have you noticed that when you do something that the creator didnt expect - there is a hiatus in the time space continuum - I feel like they have to recalibrate the effects of that action. How weird is that!!!!

[Carmody]

95% of my dreams are of other people, other places, never me. I'm a JAFO. Bearing witness. Etc.

(Just Another Fracking Observer)

[Dim4ik]

Have you noticed that when you do something that the creator didnt expect - there is a hiatus in the time space continuum - I feel like they have to recalibrate the effects of that action. How weird is that!!!!

this is imposible since creater precalculated everything till every end of thing in this dimension, period.
i am in religions and its is writen in all know Bible.
but for me its a bit diferent story. how many times u seen DeJaVu?
i have seen same DeJaVu for 4 times in past week and today it hapend in real life and i agree those dreams our testing dimension (where is small amount of viewers) to not screw up in this one where everyone can judge.

i have some dreams of JAFO but somehow i gain control at critical moments. example: i know that bus is coming and i see distracted person walking, subject i am viewing doesnt intent to do nothing, so( have no clue how) i force him to rush and stop incoming incident or yeal or something like that. if that ocurs and i change his reality all animated beings concetrate attention on my viewer subject and dream goes off, if i cant take action (like useless JAFO) i just witness horror scene of bus making a mess from a person.

[Rocky_Shorz]

there are no time restrictions in dreams, I have traveled back thousands of years to speak with historic figures and have seen the future and studied electric wind powered automobiles...

but our dreams are attached to this reality...

I watched someone die in my dreams and the following day read they passed...

[Ammit]

Yeah Rocky shorz, i have done the dead bit, very sad though.
A question I do have however, is: what does it mean when you dream a person is in trouble and you help in the dream, then upon awakening contact that person only to find that all is good with them???
Had what must have be a good 3 hour dream of it the other night too.

Must warn you that I am told i do precognitive dreaming....

Ammit

[witchy1]

Hi Dim4ik - well I believe that the creator hasnt actually finished his calculations. Its called free will and what makes us human. Its unsual to have it happen, but it has a few times. (if we all beieved the same thing tho - we would be robots):-)
Dejavu is mostly every day. However when you really study it, there is always something a wee bit different - so never exact replica of the dream. I dont think (remember) ive ever been witness in a dream where there has been some catastrohy to someone else. Its usually always happening to me - never a JAFO
The ones where you dream of someone passing a few and far between, but has happened perhaps this is because when nursing you could just tell who was going to walk out and who wasnt, so perhaps all predestined?

[Dim4ik]

Hi Dim4ik - well I believe that the creator hasnt actually finished his calculations. Its called free will and what makes us human. Its unsual to have it happen, but it has a few times. (if we all beieved the same thing tho - we would be robots):-)...
..., so perhaps all predestined?
this is strange but in Bible Book explained that God has already writen in final book of salvation names of those who will be saved, and if u read bible you can read between lines that all Crucial points in time are predestined, so we can frase it like this : "choices already done, what is left is just to pick them", free will is a gift, but names of those who will be saved are already writen in final book, you can't come to Jesus if God didnt make you to, and you cant come to God if not trough Jesus. nonstop circle trip right?
no there is something missing.
we can enter circle whenever we want (this is free will)

free will is constrained to Small-Big amount of choises that already been made, we just living what we chosed to live.

anyone played minswiper?
YOU press on unknown place to see if there is a bomb.(bad luck if u blow up at first, anyone hapend that? why it didnt hapend?)
YOU see numbers and precalculate based on those numbers if there is bomb.and then YOU press and find out is it there.
but computer who placed bombs already know's where are they and aleready placed number tiles around all game board.
so he is responsable for YOUr brain activity and will push YOU to choose based on numbers YOU see
(those same numbers that already been seen by computer).
you have a free will to press any place, but you wont press it becouse its not only YOUr free will that matters.

[felixq78]

I like Carl Jung's approach. He categorizes dreams, there are the big lucid clear real ones, the regular ones of familiar old houses, bright rooms, dark rooms and there are all the others. I don't try to analyse them too much I just try to enjoy them when possible.

[Dim4ik]

I like Carl Jung's approach. He categorizes dreams, there are the big lucid clear real ones, the regular ones of familiar old houses, bright rooms, dark rooms and there are all the others. I don't try to analyse them too much I just try to enjoy them when possible.

I totaly agree with your ideia. we must enjoy them as much as we can, and awaken dreaming makes us do it so much more fun, last dream i happend to meet a girl and it happend in vilage i havent been for 8 years

there was so much stuf but my brain did projected everything with so much details i thouhgt it was real for like first half, and then i just started doing super human ability. jump to high, half fly, run very fast ,and it had background like storyi had FUN. wish u all transform ur teaching dreams in ones where u can learn and take the most of them , thats is world where you controling everything totaly, EVERYTHING even weather, even sun, even gravity. there is no limit to your imagination.

i love avalon for leting me express andshare my dreams with all of you

[Gone002]

If you do a lot of exercise then dreaming is good, it helps to increase growth hormones production in the body in turn this helps to repair muscles.

[Alloya]

Some advice on this please

Last night I had a peculiar conversation with my friend about dreams. I won’t make this a long post so I will get to the point.

My friend said when you dream you can remember some of them and where you have been in your dream and I agreed. Then she said think about all the dreams you have had and can you remember anytime that you can remember yourself breathing in your dreams.

At first I thought what a strange thing to ask I then tried to remember all the dreams I have had and I can’t remember or recall me breathing in any of my dreams.

I have not remembered breathing , but i can remember holding my breath under water...

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Anyone ever brought anything back from a dream ???? when i was a child about 6 ,i woke with an acorn in my hand. I lived in the city not many trees, no trees in the garden ... My mom thought it was strange and still tells the story today ....

[Banshee]

Astral travel is controlled dreaming.

Uncontrolled astral travel is dreaming.

Hi Carmody,

This is an old post, but a new question for me. Regarding above, how are you sure? What if a person is lucid in their uncontrolled astral travel and that person can consciously affect situations but not necessarily where they are? What if one can be completely awake and flips into a "scene" wherein he or she is an observer or can interract somewhat, can get up, lie back down and re enter that state of awarness once it has been identified? What if that person has only been in reclining state for a couple of seconds and is engaged in conversation with a person in the same room yet well into the altered state? A lot of little what ifs. Thanks for your time.

I actually came to this thread to ask about dream interpretation. Last night, I had a very vivid dream wherein I was witness to two huge owls fighting within my arm's length. I looked up owls on dream interpretation, but it really doesn't apply. Does anyone have any insight into this dream? It was horrible to witness and has been with me all day. Thanks.

oh and a footnote - the owls, were huge, grey and were fighting one another in mid air...i was seated at a bistro table with faceless friends, having refreshments outdoors. I was very aware of the woodland surroundings. The air was heavy with an impending summer storm.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi all, had my first lucid dream recently. Was in a normal dream room, when suddenly "I' was there. Thought it would be fascinating to peer out of a "dream" window with conscious intent. Nothing fantistical except that the sky outside was purplish, and "I" had looked out intentionally. What a trip.

Cheers,
Fred

[cosmicharmony]

In dreams we become our identity and swim within a make up of everything suiting us.

Sometimes we enter this state and encounter a fear which we run from.

Other times we just be and become so comfortable that we begin to live like we do here.

The trick with sleep is understanding that your chemical and mental make up influence your entry into this dream state.

Yes, we do not breath there but do you notice how much you never notice your breath here?

Myself personally oftens grow out of my dream - not everyday though - i become aware of the dream and its un-reality. I then move from a dream situation and find all that stuff keeping my attention becoming less apparent as i move else where. I dont then go on to have a great time though. I seem to be caught by my thoughts and this presents a new scenario where i drift back into this new appearence. Its like picking a new book from the shelf and becoming entranced by its activity. This chapter then strangley replaces the characters with persons i know and so i fall into the game and react how i should to this dream. This book i found then slowly moulds back into my life and situates everything around me with these people who i know...DOH!

I`m back to square one. I left one dream state and found a new one that merged me into following a ruse that led me back to this meaningness called dreams!!!!!


Things Ive noticed in Dreams.

1. Food smells nice but when i eat it all i find is tasteless munch within my mouth.
2. I see others for what they are yet this leaves me when i awake and reflect upon them.
3. I have moments in waking life where i suddenly remember being where i am right now( I recall knowing this before ) - via a strange recall from a past dream.
4. Guides often come and take part in your dreams but always contain themselves away from your full attention.
5. I have found odd dreams where i am more my self and often find strange surroundings. Often familiar, i move along and find people who talk and involve me in their daily life. My dream of Ireland modern day springs to mind.
6. Some dreams i seem to linger near home at night whilst i sleep and then i float along even fly via pressing upon my stomach muscles!!!!!!
7. When floating or flying I do not hold the fear of hieghts nor the concerne i would hold thinking how can i do this. But I do remain myself, the true me and have a slight worry about being seen :)
8. Some dreams of "kept attention dreaming" have resulted in me flying off and away - i often then wake up.

[Ernie Nemeth]

According to the Seth material, we spend our sleeping periods in another realm or realms of reality either building a reality or working through problems from our earthly waking state.
Another possibility is that when we dream we return to the higher self that is in fact directing the lives of many alternate selves simultaneously. In dreams, says Seth we follow the life of one of these alternate selves.
For what its worth.
Personally, I hate dreaming and wish I never did.
Peace

[White Rabbit]

I can’t remember or recall me breathing in any of my dreams.

Me neither, except that where ever I am... underwater, in the air or on land I am always able to breath. The underwater is what fascinates me as I know that where I am (in this dreamworld), underwater, I should not be able to exist... yet I do. It does not matter what the medium may be.. as I am always able to BE.

I think it is fascinating.


~White Rabbit

[The One]

At the moment I can’t seem to remember my dreams like I used to. Anybody else having the same problem and why do you think its happening now

Thanks