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Omni
7th July 2014, 23:31
Sound helps develop spirituality. Sound is spiritual to a large degree. I cover a lot of spiritual experiences I have had with sound in this thread(if you are interested):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72771-Holographic-Chakras

Anyway, I've always had keyboards all my life to play, and especially when I was a kid, I absolutely loved it. I had a mini keyboard that was perfect.. Don't skimp on money IMHO if u can in buying one. Get a good one you can feel lush sounds from(that is small) if there still is one...

TPTB do not want Art and Music in Schools. Granted something like drum line can be more like boot camp(not saying its bad)... They do this because it's a race for their power. It;s just a matter of time before humanity inherits the power instead of a few heartless soulless men(and maybe a few women like Condoleeza rice etc). Art and Music(which is an artform itself) do alot for the mind. I do not have any links of such, but I just know it. There may have been studies conducted on such(if there hasn't been scientists are slackin), and I would be very grateful if anyone knows of such, to post them.

Later sometime I will do a thread about the aspects of the universe I have been shown by extraterrestrials. They are awesome and best exemplified without telepathy, in sound...

ANyway, I URGE you, if you have kids, to buy them some sort of music making apparatus(optimally when young). I remember back when I was like 5 years old my parents would leave me in the guitar room while they all went to smoke cannabis and do whatever they did out there. I loved it. At around 5 I could play tunes on the guitar... Maybe someday if you buy your kids music making equipment they can look back and thank you for your great parenting decision. Like for example starting or at least being familiar with guitar at a young age, might turn into something amazing when older with dedication and talent. From my experiences for younger a keyboard is better(with good synths)...

I have a 1 year old nephew(that I stress over what they will do to him, which u may understand if you are familiar with my situation...), I will buy him a synthy keyboard as soon as he has creative spark. he already likes the guitar.. hehe.

Also, this is something not just useful for kids. For adults a nice casio keyboard is something of great use! I would recommend buying one of those too(maybe not casio but something like it) for any age. Even if you are 75 and haven't made music in your life, it's never too late to start...

Again, if anyone knows any scientific studies that have been made about cognitive development of the mind, and music/sound, please post it :)

EC1000
8th July 2014, 15:44
well I don't know of any studies per say but playing an instrument which requires the use of both hands at once is a great way to open both hemispheres of the brain. And if you want to open just your right brain a bit more, focus on left hand exercises and vice versa

najara12000
8th July 2014, 16:14
I've thought about buying one. I've gotten into this Germany Trance music out there. Always thought it would be neat to make some music. One big problem is that I live in apartment housing and one is not permitted to do much of anything anymore. No BB Que grills, no propane, no loud noise. So I've wondered about how to circumvent that. Is there any way to have one where the sound goes through head phones? And can you make some recommendations for something to buy that would have a lot of little extras to create?

Robert J. Niewiadomski
8th July 2014, 20:37
Would you consider installing a musical application onto your tablet/phone as an viable alternative to keyboard? My kids love that kind where you draw notes as horizontal lines with your fingers. Here is the one we use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRu2RrK0JA Its free to download & use.

The Truth Is In There
10th July 2014, 12:12
only acoustic instruments are real.

Shezbeth
10th July 2014, 18:39
I don't disagree with the premise of the OP, but I agree with TTIIT (the Truth ^) in that a keyboard/synthesizer is an electronically generated tone. A recorder - as just one example - is a relatively inexpensive (at entry level) instrument that produces a resonant pitch, utilizes both hands, and also helps to inspire good posture and breathing.

Omni
11th July 2014, 01:53
only acoustic instruments are real.
lol quite wrong IMO. A Synthesizer is a virtual instrument. And some of the most amazing sounds come from such... Music is spiritual whether on acoustic instruments or synths... When I was a kid the lush synth sounds would spawn various energetic feelings that I gained from. I've heard this a million times from things like "Electronic music isn't real", ro "hip hop music isnt real", or "synths arent real". The sound is real... I always feel bad about how some people neglect certain genres of music and how much they are missing by not being open to both electronic and acoustic sides of music. Not that either is superior when taken in objectively IMO...


...So I've wondered about how to circumvent that. Is there any way to have one where the sound goes through head phones? And can you make some recommendations for something to buy that would have a lot of little extras to create?

Yep you can use headphones.

Would you consider installing a musical application onto your tablet/phone as an viable alternative to keyboard? My kids love that kind where you draw notes as horizontal lines with your fingers. Here is the one we use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRu2RrK0JA Its free to download & use.
Yes :)

DarMar
11th July 2014, 03:12
i can not bear to listen to synthetic sounds.. they are awful and their vibration is unfinished.
That plastic imitating sound does add to shortening subconscious spectrum in undeveloped age of human.
Music does have nothing with i play to feel good or listen to feel good.

music is self discovery tool.
and synthetics is organised in scales, tones, bars, beats and has BARS same like prison .. hard field to have self discovery. its like go see the world but walk only through road.. and road is synthetic concept same like in computer.
vibration of a string or hit of a drum.. now specially with some good echo room... does miracles. but it does nothing actually if its not needed and have no purpose than wasting energy. humans are masters of wasting energy.

synth n sound does commercials and youth that are consumed through synthetic principle in various party gatherings.
maybe before synthesisers were something really special and they were with tube technology, nowadays it's all 555's and bunch of rate control chips which try to simulate vibration, hard truth is never will..
it however has something completely different. I noticed micro patterns in synthetic music, which can stimulate and get some effect pretty close, and some are quite unique and impossible to recreate analog way...

but thats ok, i eat potato, i can't get fed of microchips
use music as ritualistic meditative state achieving pure out of this world state, don't listen much because it's useless most of time. who will pick best tone and who will play fastest is same to me under core..

music is underrated, under explained humanity's creativity most direct and powerful tool along with voice capabilities.
equivalent of todays usage is this:
you get up eat aspirin, to bathroom aspirin, dinner aspirin, tv two aspirins.. school.. etc etc .. a pack of aspirins in a day.. because it feels good...

my first instrument was synthesiser, as a kid i find local newspaper ads and changed synth for drums.. . :)

do not buy kids synthesisers! ask them which instrument they like .. communicate, they have opinion too...


cheers :)

Omni
11th July 2014, 04:15
i can not bear to listen to synthetic sounds.. they are awful and their vibration is unfinished.
That plastic imitating sound does add to shortening subconscious spectrum in undeveloped age of human.
Music does have nothing with i play to feel good or listen to feel good.
I'm sorry it sucks for you. Some sounds can be unfinished, others aren't. The design diversity in virtual instruments is vast. It can have many effects.



do not buy kids synthesisers! ask them which instrument they like .. communicate, they have opinion too...

I agree, other than do not buy a synth. I think some people hold dogmatic views of synthesizers personally.

HaulinBananas
11th July 2014, 04:43
Also, if kids don't want to play instruments, don't make them. I hated taking piano lessons.

But, with regard to synthesizers, there are some great documentaries on Netflix about moog synthesizers - history, inventors, inventions, some of the players (now elderly on the documentaries) and one documentary specifically on one player called Bernie Worrell that is interesting to watch.

http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Stranger-Bernie-Worrell-on-Earth/70078540?strkid=1287680940_0_0&strackid=6390b5293bcd2b88_0_srl&trkid=222336

Everybody is different. I wish I had taken horse riding lessons as a teen, not piano lessons. Maybe it is character building, but children may have other interests than what is selected for them.

Shezbeth
11th July 2014, 18:20
Synthesizers and keyboards can produce 'complete-ish' sounds, but they lack the fullness and resonance of a tangible instrument. I feel I should qualify that by resonance I am referring to overtones and the complexity of sound that is produced by the entirety of the instrument and its components, not just the 'instrument-ish' sounds (piano, trumpet, violin, {insert instrument of choice here}, etc.). A 'true' instrument produces sounds, vibrations, and harmonics that are well above and beyond the 'initial' note, and are mostly (consciously) not perceived by the mind or ear.

A keyboard 'trumpet' (or even one of those funny plasticy things) pales in comparison to the real thing; likewise with a piano, a violin,... key-tar :mmph:. Even if it sounds to the ear to be identical, when analyzed the sound wave is disparate and inconsistent. Admittedly, the argument could be made that no tangible instrument can duplicate the sounds of a synthesizer, but that's an aside. I know of no instruments that are trying to duplicate a synthesizer, rather the opposite.

Synthesizers and sequencers do an excellent job of compensating for their inability to adequately duplicate real sounds by creating/using non-instrumental sounds and vibrations - and I note the hypocrisy of the following given that progressive trance is among my favorite genres - the/any life that is in the music is only in the composition and not the notes and expression.