I really believe Disclosure IS Coming 2014!!!

[jagman]

I know some of you are long past wanting or needing disclosure and
I congratulate you on reaching your higher self but some of of us need
closure. Some of us NEED validation. Some of us have encountered
really strange events to only question ourselves later on whether the
strange event ever took place at all.

So YES, I want Disclosure with a capitol D!!! And I really do believe
2014-2015 We will finally see the veil lifted!!! My reasons for saying
this bold statement are several fold...

1. The MSM media are reporting on different ufo cases almost on a
weekly basis. FoxNews, Megyn Kelly ran a story on Buzz Aldrin
tonight where he discussed an event that happened during one
of the Apollo Missions where he stated that he seen a ufo.
CNN,ABC,CBS,FOX,NBC run stories on ufo sightings all the time.

2. The Vatican openly talks about ufos and according to Tom Horn
and Chris Putnam Vatican astronomers who work at Mt.Graham
observatory told them that they see all kinds of things flying around
in space that appear to be under intelligent control! The current
Pope even stated he would baptize an ET!

3.The current administration is in need of a huge distraction!!!
( Could there be a bigger distraction?)

4. Peter Davenport who runs the National UFO Reporting Center has
reported for the past six months that UFO reports are on the rise
and have been "Off the Charts" His words "And he's never seen
anything like this since he became director in the early 80"s"...

5.The World Is On Fire!!!

6. Nasa and the Chinese space agency are constantly getting caught
with their pants down releasing doctored photos or...Or are they
purposely releasing them? Look into what Richard Hoaglands been
digging up here lately?

6. A few nights ago I was listening to C2C and the program was about
"The Merlin Project". Apparently there is this super computer That has
predicted many accurate future events! They are now predicting 2014
2015 for disclosure

7. Field researchers are doing really good work and almost everyone
has a good camera or video device (Thank YOU Cellphones)

8. There was a demonologist on C2C the other night and he said
that there seem's to be a major uptic in paranormal activity lately.
He pretty much uttered Peter Davenports sentiments saying that
"Reports are off the charts right now, especially in third world
countries"!!! I know that some of you don"t subscribe to that theory
but still it's a strange correlation that so many events are converging
at this point in time....Example "The Blood Moon Prophecy"...

9. Most Mainstream scientist's now believe in life beyond Earth...

Finally IMO I think most people are ready for it.
I hope were ready???:jaw:

[Omni]

Indeed the drip feed has gotten faster, but I'd be very surprised if we get any big disclosures this year. At least that is how I feel.

[Sérénité]

Over here in the UK, there also seems to be a lot of focus on aliens in the national curriculum for the younger key stage children the past year too, I'm not in academics but I've never known it before in mine or my children's education to be so.

The terminology that seems to be used also seems directed to the attitude of 'Yes, they do exist, lets discuss them' rather than 'Do they exist? lets debate it'.

My sons space and alien focused homework sheet this term included the topic: "what do aliens look like? draw one and colour it in..."
...guess that rules out the greys then ;)

So without digressing on your thread Jagman, I agree, I think over the past couple of years there has been a huge influx of information and drip fed disclosure.
I don't know, maybe that's all we need...if the little people around us now are being taught about aliens in such a matter of fact way, the next few generations will just grow up with the ideology of aliens existing and naturally accepted as the norm.

Like family on the other side of our earth, we know they exist, we just don't get to see them unless they can afford the airfare one day :)

[Arak]

I hope so, but my hopes are not too high. And I too have indeed focused on mining information from higher dimensions. But that is both easy and hard. It is easy to get info, but hard to separate facts from fiction. :)

[indigopete]

I know some of you are long past wanting or needing disclosure and
I congratulate you on reaching your higher self but some of of us need
closure. Some of us NEED validation

If the authorities have been lying about this agenda for decades, do you really think they're going to suddenly start telling the truth about everything ? If there's "disclosure" how will you know it isn't just the next theatrical episode in the "big lie" ?

You'll never get disclosure from the "powers that be" because there isn't anything to disclose that isn't already in the public domain. Anything that comes out of an "authoratitive" source is and always has been propaganda - or at least is indistinguishable from such.

I've expressed this before on these forums, but my own view is that although there's clearly a "phenomenon" going on, it's not extraterrestrial. I say that simply because of the fact that if it was, it would be omnipresent. This idea that only the "authorities" know whats going on is "take me to your leader" holywood stuff unless you accept that the whole phenomenon originates with them in the first place.

In fact our thinking about this whole concept hasn't really progressed much from the cowboys and indian's template. All the same I remain open minded but I think people need to radically change the way they see the UFO agenda.

So lets sum up:

[1] - if it was really extraterrestrial, everyone would know about it because we're talking about levels of consciousness being the critical element to "disclosure", not levels of security clearance

[2] - if it was home made, then only a few people would know about it and "levels of security clearance" would indeed be the critical element in "disclosure"

So which one does it look like to you ?

[The Truth Is In There]

apparently i'm one of the few people would couldn't care less about disclosure. i just don't understand what's so special about telling people about aliens.

if "they" introduce aliens it will be another deception. it will be aliens all right but not from outer space but down below, and they may be made to appear benevolent but that will be a lie. lizards in nice clone bodies, or grey/human crossbreeds without emotions.

the ones who are keen to appear as benevolent saviours are the same that have been using humans as primary food and energy source since thousands of years.

[huyi82]

You will get your disclosure in maybe 1000 years, the higher ups will never tell the truth about extra terrestrials, you will be waiting pretty much forever for the truth and still not get it, they won't risk their social structure on a disclosure because all hell would break loose, people are not going to welcome them with open arms are they.

[rgray222]

Pope Francis Says He Would Baptize Aliens in Weekly Address

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iEQJZ7v_5SM/U3Fv67q9VPI/AAAAAAAAZsE/EpVn-migVoc/s1600/Pope+Francis.jpg

You really have to wonder why the Vatican and Popes speak so openly about baptizing aliens, why they persist in holding conferences around the world that explore and discuss intelligent life in the universe. The Vatican has taken a leadership role in preparing mankind for the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
The religious aspect of Extraterrestrial Disclosure is by far the most contentious and controversial part of Disclosure to the majority of mankind.
Even though the Pope is making light of the type of aliens he would be prepared to baptize he is still making a very conscious effort to make sure the topic is out in front of the public. In essence the Pope is saying to the world, prepare yourself for the discovery of intelligent life in the universe.


To read more (http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2014/05/alien-disclosure-pope-francis-baptize-alien.html)

[thepainterdoug]

if there was such a thing as a disclosure to the order discussed here, i truly wonder what changes, what events would be put in motion ? because if it happened , then not only would the reality itself need to be absorbed and understood etc, the idea that a coverup has been in place all along would have to be fully understood. and within that coverup, the countless lives destroyed, possibly murdered ,silenced etc within all the related fields held back as in free and more efficient energy, religion and faith institutions etc.
what do the readers here think would change if such a disclosure were to happen?

[sirdipswitch]

I had a science teacher that was really cool. We talked about this all of the time, and very openly, wondering when the Government would caugh up with the truth. That was 53 years ago.

I really don't understand what the big deal is. Everyone on this forum, should know the truth by now. However, as I have stated many times on this forum, the mass public.... does not believe. And, as I have also stated, many times, on this forum, as I go out and about I talk with people about UFOs', (Strangers are just friends, that we haven't met yet. cc) and in the past 5 years I have found 3 people that actually said, they believe in them. As for the rest, they get very "uncomfortable" and try to get away from me. I have a deep loud voice that carries, and in grocery stores I have had people, (while I'm talkin to a checker) turn around to see who was talking, from 4 and 5 stations over. I have had people "catch" me at my truck, (4x4) to ask if I was serious about what I was tellin that checker, and spent the next 2 hours standin there explaining some of what I know, and have had to just leave them standing there, (cuz I really had to go home. cc) wanting more.

I have read many posts on this forum, by many right here, that do NOT like to talk with "strangers", and are very "nervous" about doing so. Really???!!! If that's the case? Then WHAT pray tell would YOU do if confronted by an ET. What would you do if confronted with the scenario as presented in the movie, "Indepenence Day"???

Are you really ready for disclosure?? For that "exact" scenario... is entirely possible. yep. uh-huh. ccc.

All those little saucers and lights, flitting about our skies, that everyone calls UFOs', are nothing but "shuttles", (scooters, actually) and used for exploration. Their "Mother Ships", 1,000 - 2,000 miles in diameter, or more, and are parked hundreds of thousands of miles out in space. NASA can't even find them, let alone tell us about them.

Do you really think we are ready to look up and see 12 ships as big as our Moon? There is one out there, that is almost twice, the diameter of Jupider. It has been "parked" behind our Sun, for more than 8,000 years. (I have mentioned it on my thread.)

Disclosure? Do you really think you're ready? ccc.:wizard:

[wnlight]

To give my answer on the Full Disclosure subject, I must disclose to you a part go my BS (belief system). I believe that we all will get full disclosure when we transition from life on this Earth. In other words, when we die. Before that event, we get limited disclosures that will perhaps never satisfy our need for certainty.

[Camilo]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

[jagman]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Camilo, I can completely understand you and others skepticisim.
on such an event ever taking place. I just think the toothpaste
has been squeezed out of the tube and you just cant put it
back in, So to speak.:nod:

[donk]

I know some of you are long past wanting or needing disclosure and
I congratulate you on reaching your higher self but some of of us need
closure. Some of us NEED validation. Some of us have encountered
really strange events to only question ourselves later on whether the
strange event ever took place at all.
jaw:

Hey my friend....I have only read this first paragraph so far, and wanted to let you know that you telling me a story is way more valid disclosure than anything "official" could ever be. Though I do sympathize...I think something broader would be cool :cool:....I personally have felt the people around me have rapidly become less able to lie themselves...alright, I will now proceed reading...hope you are well.


UPDATED:
...ok, having read the thread, I am reminded of this one that I started (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58576-ET-disclosure-is-the-ultimate-tool-of-dividing-humanity), and stand by. What I am hoping for more than "disclosure" is it becoming common knowledge and acceptable to talk about and study the "unseen" and "unknown" and the "extraordinary"...and I feel like that is happening.

[Aviator]

I can't see any major changes taking place within the covert insincere regime of planet earth. Disclosure would mean honesty about so many past lies and cover ups. It would change the control and power structure of the planet. It is not in "their" interest. Disclosure will keep on happening on a hidden level but not openly in the main stream.

[donk]

...I personally feel that truth is emerging (or at least deception is being more easily exposed) more and more in my reality...and hope the "as above, so below" applies here.

[the_real_dave-id]

I am standing firmly... on both sides of this fence. :p While disclosure would be very welcome, I would be very wary of anything official as TPTB seem to use anything and everything they do as a way to further their agenda. So any disclosure from them would be very suspicious and possibly as full of as many lies as truths..

Now if somehow everyone on the planet could experience personal disclosure so that when they tell anyone about it they're not laughed at, but agreed with, that would be cool.

But with all the mind control tech TPTB have even that would be hard to be "sure" of.

I'd love to be certain of something on this subject, but find myself repeatedly feeling like I just simply don't know, and often like I can't know even if I have an experience for myself.

[Alien Ramone]

It could happen, but I'm not expecting there to be disclosure to the public in my lifetime. I don't think the NWO could rely on Project Blue Beam working the way that they would want it to, now that it has been exposed, and I don't think the NWO influenced government has anything to gain in relation to their agenda by real disclosure. Alien contactee information seems to be very unreliable, plus any reasons that have kept alien groups from disclosing themselves to the world probably still exist.

I would like to see what would happen if Rand Paul got elected President. I don't think he is compromised by the NWO, but also I don't think he would be given any proof that he could show to the public in relation to contact with aliens.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi jagman, I think if Disclosure happens (and I think it will be soon) it will only happen as part of the great awakening!
The great awakening will be the point when all lies and the PTW will be totally,openly, exposed and dis-empowered!
Then we shall see, but not just the UFO/Aliens! we shall see reality as it really is.
At that point the UFO/Alien agenda will fade into the explosion of our new , liberated consciousness. We will all stand together as a new open community!

BTW going by my last sighting, I hope any disclosure will show craft with more detail than this (see reconstructed image of sighting)
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/UFO%20Disk/ufodisk1.jpg
Really this is what the craft looked like 0.0 just a totally flat, feature less grey disk! could have been a Gray card cutout but a massive size and speed!
If I was to see what I saw on You-tube I would have laughed! calling it a very feeble, comical fake.
But that is just how it looked.
Now I've seen other UFO's that had much detail and even many colors so I can draw on personal sighting for comparisons.

[Sloppyjoe]

Highly doubt any disclosure is in the works anytime soon. Humans aren't ready yet. I think once we expand our civilization to the moon and mars(officially, not behind closed doors as it is now) then we will SLOWLY be told of new findings like fossils or small lifeforms...but even that is still decades away.

[Lifebringer]

I think the Internet would be on fire if they all met at the UN and told the Pope, those in the house of the Lord, do not follow his way, and to clean it up, I think they'd lose their minds, those who couldn't accept and I think a lot of people who spout hate filled language would finally shut up. Then peace of mind could finally be felt, that justice, equality, fair play and goodness can nurture this planet back to health together cleaning the oceans w/filtrations systems run by wind. Our grid and certain parts of the desert rigged for the electric grid for cities, but also homes built to give energy and save tenants, homeowners, owners money. I think if we are allowed to all sit down and discuss the problems right now, with people who are skilled in the knowledge of science and technology, I think we could have a great start that lasts forever.

[MargueriteBee]

Are we ready for disclosure? Project Avalon is, but, my neighbors? No. Not now, I live amid those still living in their lower chakras. I feel they would respond in fear. Me, I'd walk right up to the ship and say hello.

[yelik]

They'll only disclose when it's a foregone conclusion. Then everyone can say well I knew that already thus missing the fact we've been lied to for over 70 years. If they disclose it now they'll have to explain the lie which on top of ever decreasing popularity of politicians they will not do it.

[pabranno]

I believe disclosure will only happen when the others decide to unveil themselves. And only to the extent that they choose to disclose themselves.
The "Others" are the architects of their secrecy, not our governments.
Any "disclosure" coming from our governments will be sifted through their dark filters, and thus will be twisted, deliberately or unintentionally.

[lelmaleh]

The ptb will only disclose if they feel that it is inevitable that people will know anyway. And then try to control how it is perceived. Possibly man-made craft or some holographic crap.

[Latti]

Not in my lifetime!!!!!!!!!

[wnlight]

jagman, what kind of disclosure are you talking about? I just went back to your first post looking in vain for your definition. Official, full disclosure has been discussed a lot in this thread. Think what they could do with CGI and special effects. If you mean disclosure of the "see it and believe it" kind such as the Phoenix, Arizona lights, then it has already happened. What would be cool is a display of a hundred million UFOs at once all over the Earth's skies without any government announcement. I hope you are not expecting a "To Serve Man" disclosure or a "Childhoods End".

The veil that you mention IS slowly lifting. Children today are not as ready to believe the untruths that their parents learned and are trying to feed to their children. People all over the world are beginning to wake up. The Internet helps.

[wnlight]

MargueriteBee, why must the entire population, including your neighbours, be 'ready' for disclosure? Let them be shocked. It will be good for them. Most won't be shocked anyway. They'll be standing in da Nile.

BTW, if you happen to walk up to a parked UFO, try to remember that you are a powerful being, yourself. Don't let them scare you. Use the protection of your angels. They don't have that.

[Zionbrion]

I think the process has already started, now whether it is a positive or a negative thing I am unsure of. If its our government disclosing it to us I imagine it is for alterior motives. In the Anstasia ringing cedars series(which I believe is actually channelled once you read all 8 books it becomes clearer ex:"I exist for those for whom I exist") she speaks of Aliens being seen with our world leaders in the near futures and that you should not trust niether the leaders nor the aliens in those instances. Also in Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Marciniak she also speaks of Aliens being seen with our politicians and also how we should not trust those aliens.
So when it does become a reality do we really trust it all? Is it really a good thing for the betterment of human kind and the earth? There really is so much conflicting information out there, from all aliens are sentient, to we are their energetic slaves and there is other races fighting to free us.
My partner asked me once why I like reading and researching about aliens so much and what wpuld disclosure really do, I honestly had a really hard time answering, or rather putting it into words. I feel like its something I already know deep inside, but I desire for the earth and its people to be awakened to our true origins and join our star brothers and sisters in the further exploring of life and the universe.

[ghostrider]

I'll give you what I've read about what was said by the plejaren Ptaah , he stated that from a system close to us , a mere 5 light years , alpha-centauri ,beta-centauri would come first by radio , then TV , then an egg shaped craft would land in America and 8-10 human beings from that system would walk out and official contact would begin ... it was slated for 1998 but something happened and delayed the contact ... when ET chooses to land and walk out and official say hello , earth mankind will discover that life did not begin on earth , we will trace it back to Mars , and then eventually to the seven sisters , the pleadies , then we will visit the constellation Lyra ... the original homeworld of earth humans , and some trace back to another universe called the Dal ... our twin ... it's the way it's done , when humans can reach into cosmic space they fall under the umbrella of other federations , I've read numbers that range from 1.5 billion members to 120 billion members , advanced human civilizations part of the plejaren ( dwellers of the sevenfold ) massive federation , that teaches spiritual living to evolving humans on every world ... they have come here as Enoch , Isaiah , Ezekiel , Jeremiah , Immanuel , Muhammad , Beam ... their ancestors are the gods of our past , the sons of heaven ...

[ghostrider]

MargueriteBee, why must the entire population, including your neighbours, be 'ready' for disclosure? Let them be shocked. It will be good for them. Most won't be shocked anyway. They'll be standing in da Nile.

BTW, if you happen to walk up to a parked UFO, try to remember that you are a powerful being, yourself. Don't let them scare you. Use the protection of your angels. They don't have that.

ET is afraid of earth humans our vibrations can harm them ... our first reaction is fear , and they know it ... the whole reason they send/teach through the prophets , he is one of them ( his spirit form) and can interact without harming them ... your thinking is your weapon/protection ... be in peace , and nothing can harm you ...

[Spellbound]

I think ET's would look at our concept of religion (ie-the Pope) and laugh.

Dave - Toronto

[Hazelfern]

My favorite quotes within this thread ~



Anything that comes out of an "authoritative" source is and always has been propaganda - or at least is indistinguishable from such.


As for the rest, they get very "uncomfortable" and try to get away from me.


Now if somehow everyone on the planet could experience personal disclosure so that when they tell anyone about it they're not laughed at, but agreed with, that would be cool.


I feel like its something I already know deep inside, but I desire for the earth and its people to be awakened to our true origins and join our star brothers and sisters in the further exploring of life and the universe.


Everything that ghostrider said....WOW - there it is folks!!! - see ghostrider for the truth.

[Hazelfern]

First up: MARS

[jagman]

I think ET's would look at our concept of religion (ie-the Pope) and laugh.

Dave - Toronto

Dave, You just made me laugh lol

[wnlight]

ghostrider, I like what you wrote. It strikes a positive chord in me. Please tell me, how ever could 8-10 individuals pop out of a star ship and get past the criminal cabal to get their message out to humans of the Earth? Where would they land? Please, not in Washington! This could have happened last year and we would never know it.

Tell them to land here in Ecuador. We'll give them asylum.

Your quote referring to "the gods of our past" is pretty scary to me. The gods of our past were not very nice. They were something to fear. They were jealous gods that destroyed and killed in retribution. They led the Israelites to commit ethnic cleansing in Palestine. I will never bow down to a 'god'. He can kill me first.

[Ulyse30]

(Français)Mon opinion,se base ici sur mes expériences personnelles,vis à vis ce sujet !! Moi,je n'attendrai pas après les gouvernements ou d'autres humains,pour me montrer le chemin à suivre vers eux!! D'ailleurs cela a commencé pour moi depuis ma naissance,ici sur Terre!!!Je vais toujours à leurs rencontres,par moi-même,personnes ou ET ne me force,à les suivres!!!(ce sont des ET bienveillants)Mon but serait de filmer en direct une rencontre mais je sais pas s'ils vont me laisser faire,mais je pense qu'ils savent déjà ce que je veux faire depuis longtemps!!!,??? Si jamais mon expérience fonctionne,PA va être les premiers averties et à voir le résultat final !!! (....je vais essayer de le faire,pas pour être populaire,car je veux garder l'anonymat,mais pour vous et pour nous,.....) Merci et n'hésités pas à me parler la-dessus !!! (English)My opinion,based on my experiences,with respect to this subject!!!Me i will not wait after governments or other humains to show me the way to go to them!!Besides it began,for me since i was born here on Earth!!!I always go to their meeting with myself person or ET is forcing me to follow!!!(they are benevolent good ET)My goal is to shoot a live meeting,but i do not know if it well let me do??? I think they know (ET) already that i want,to do for a long time!!!If ever my work experience,PA will be first warned and see final result!!(....i tried to do,not to be popular,but you and us,i want to remain anonymous,....)Thank you and do not hesitated to speak over me!!!

[Zionbrion]

ghostrider, I like what you wrote. It strikes a positive chord in me. Please tell me, how ever could 8-10 individuals pop out of a star ship and get past the criminal cabal to get their message out to humans of the Earth? Where would they land? Please, not in Washington! This could have happened last year and we would never know it.

Tell them to land here in Ecuador. We'll give them asylum.

They can land in Hawaii :)



By Nancy Cook Lauer
West Hawaii Today
ncook-lauer@westhawaiitoday.com

If all goes as planned, E.T. may soon be calling Puna home.

A UFO landing pad and star visitor sanctuary is set to be dedicated Friday on land accreted by the 1983 lava flow fronting Uncle Robert’s Kawa Bar in Kalapana.

The 4 p.m. cleansing, purifying and dedication of an 80-foot diameter landing pad naturally formed by the lava on 500 new acres kicks off a three-day Native Hawaiian sustainability conference. The conference, which is being separately organized from the star visitor event, includes Hawaiian music and sessions on sustainability from a range of Hawaiian and non-Hawaiian speakers.

The Hawaii Star Visitor Sanctuary will be the second piece of land officially dedicated for the purpose of inviting extraterrestrial visitors to land and to promote peaceful relations with them, according to information provided by the Exopolitics Institute News Service.

The first landing pad was dedicated in 1967 in the city of St Paul in the Canadian province of Alberta, the news service said in a May 31 article.

“It’s potentially controversial,” acknowledged Garry Hoffeld, Big Island coordinator for the reinstated Kingdom of Hawaii and assistant to Hawaiian Nobel Robert Keliihoomalu, owner of Uncle Robert’s. “It’s potentially funny to some people, potentially stupid to some people.”

“We’re not crazy; we’re open-minded,” Hoffeld added.

- See more at: http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/ufo-landing-pad-be-dedicated-puna#sthash.txoFZpvK.dpuf

[wnlight]

Ulyse, It appears to me that we have very similar hand lines, if that green image is of your hand. Which type of benevolent ET do you meet with?

[Pam]

Pope Francis Says He Would Baptize Aliens in Weekly Address

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iEQJZ7v_5SM/U3Fv67q9VPI/AAAAAAAAZsE/EpVn-migVoc/s1600/Pope+Francis.jpg

You really have to wonder why the Vatican and Popes speak so openly about baptizing aliens, why they persist in holding conferences around the world that explore and discuss intelligent life in the universe. The Vatican has taken a leadership role in preparing mankind for the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
The religious aspect of Extraterrestrial Disclosure is by far the most contentious and controversial part of Disclosure to the majority of mankind.
Even though the Pope is making light of the type of aliens he would be prepared to baptize he is still making a very conscious effort to make sure the topic is out in front of the public. In essence the Pope is saying to the world, prepare yourself for the discovery of intelligent life in the universe.


To read more (http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2014/05/alien-disclosure-pope-francis-baptize-alien.html)


I wouldn't trust the Pope as far as I could throw him.....and the same goes for the Catholic Church.

[mojo]

but some of of us need
closure. Some of us NEED validation. Some of us have encountered
really strange events to only question ourselves later

...setting aside my belief that there is overwhelming evidence, ie. implants, trace materials, unknown materials of origin, witness testimony, photo/video proofs, etc, etc, and if the passion/need drives you to confirm even more to seek out those answers and feel you would not be disappointed. Commit to the search.

[huyi82]

The ptb will only disclose if they feel that it is inevitable that people will know anyway. And then try to control how it is perceived. Possibly man-made craft or some holographic crap.

Yep, like project bluebeam, that is the closest we would get to disclosure, more lies that cover the real truth.

[Gardener]

I think that disclosure is happening as we go along. But I also think there are multiple origins of the phenomena. e.g. extra terrestrials (out there type), interdimensional, home grown, maybe others. Who would we consider competent to disclose - our respective governtments or military industrial complex, I hardly think so unless it was disclosing their own home grown.

Does anyone genuinly believe our governments know enough about ET to make any sort of reasonable disclosure which is more revealing than what we already appear to know? And then there is the waffle as to why they covered it up in the first place. There was talk at one time of fake hologram ET.

One thing is certainly happening, and that is a gradual though persistent awkening awareness to what is possible.

[huyi82]

All those little saucers and lights, flitting about our skies, that everyone calls UFOs', are nothing but "shuttles", (scooters, actually) and used for exploration. Their "Mother Ships", 1,000 - 2,000 miles in diameter, or more, and are parked hundreds of thousands of miles out in space. NASA can't even find them, let alone tell us about them.

Do you really think we are ready to look up and see 12 ships as big as our Moon? There is one out there, that is almost twice, the diameter of Jupider. It has been "parked" behind our Sun, for more than 8,000 years. (I have mentioned it on my thread.)

Disclosure? Do you really think you're ready? ccc.:wizard:

Hence my reason why i said people are not ready, a lot of ufos use cloaking devices to hide themselves from view just imagine if all of them decloaked.

[crosby]

you know jagman, the other morning while i first began to awaken from sleep, my dreams were about relationships with E.T.s., and as i was waking, i could see myself coming back from far, far, away. i traveled through beautiful geometric designs, and bubbles, and then i started to see the stars slowly get smaller and smaller, and then i was in my bed. it was really weird for me. it reminded me of a Carl Sagan Nova episode. All in all, it was a nice dream - and one that is unusual for me. i would have to say that maybe you are right. maybe the time is coming soon when we will experience exposure to disclosure. i am convinced that we are all relatively informed about where we may come from. perhaps depending upon who's, what's, when's and where's..... it will finally spill over and transform a planet!
warmest,
crosby.

[jagman]

All those little saucers and lights, flitting about our skies, that everyone calls UFOs', are nothing but "shuttles", (scooters, actually) and used for exploration. Their "Mother Ships", 1,000 - 2,000 miles in diameter, or more, and are parked hundreds of thousands of miles out in space. NASA can't even find them, let alone tell us about them.

Do you really think we are ready to look up and see 12 ships as big as our Moon? There is one out there, that is almost twice, the diameter of Jupider. It has been "parked" behind our Sun, for more than 8,000 years. (I have mentioned it on my thread.)

Disclosure? Do you really think you're ready? ccc.:wizard:


Hence my reason why i said people are not ready, a lot of ufos use cloaking devices to hide themselves from view just imagine if all of them decloaked.

I would have agreed with this statement 20 yeaars ago but I think the majority
of people living on planet earth (Right Now)know that alien life almost certainly
exists and is probably thriving in the universe...Did you know they got a signal at
at Arecibo Observatory yesterday?

[crosby]

oh do tell jagman... you have a link?
crosby

[jagman]

oh do tell jagman... you have a link?
crosby

Sorry I dont have a link but George Norry said he would try and get
Seth Shoshack on the program so they could discuss it.

[KiwiElf]

Please note the date of the article: this is not NEW nor can I validate the information - KE

Russians Make Major UFO Disclosure Statement, Aliens Are Real
Thursday, February 21, 2013

http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2013/02/UFO-Disclosure-Russian-Aliens-Are-Real.html

According to this new information the Russians have known about alien civilizations for several decades, to many this comes as no surprise, there have been rumors floating around for many years. Well respected military and government scientist have been trying to speak out on this issue for sometime now. In the vast majority of cases the mainstream media either treats this like a non event, or they treat it like the information is coming from very unreliable sources. This information is a big step in disclosure process for mankind.

In Soviet times, the Ministry of Defense was working on a secret project aimed at creating a superhuman with paranormal abilities. Under this project, a group of scientists managed to get in touch with a foreign (read alien) civilization. The head of this top-secret project shared some details with reporters for the first time.

On a regular winter day in Moscow, in the comfort a room with a fireplace, journalists were given a real sensation. A senior retired official of the Ministry of Defense, lieutenant-general in reserve, PhD, a fellow of the Academy of Natural Sciences Alexey Savin said that in the late 1980's a group of researchers from the Expert Management Unit of General Staff managed to make a contact with representatives of another civilization. Interestingly, none of the journalists were particularly surprised but, rather, relieved with the "confession."

Vasily Yeremenko, a Major General of FIB in reserve, academician of the Academy of Security, Defense and Law Enforcement, was the first to speak to the press. In Soviet times he served in the KGB and supervised the Air Force and development of aviation technology. Among his assignments was collection of information by the Air Force of the facts of appearance of unidentified flying objects. According to Vasily Yeremenko, by that time there was an ample amount of such information.

Missile units were even given a directive in case of detection of UFOs. The main task was not to create opportunities for reciprocal aggression. In 1983-1984 at the testing grounds of the Academy of Sciences by Vladimirovka, the Ministry of Defense and the KGB organized a large-scale study of paranormal phenomena. The military training site was not a random choice. Experts have long come to the conclusion that UFOs inevitably appear in places where military equipment and weapons are tested.

"We can say that we learned to summon UFOs in Vladimirovka. To do this, we dramatically increased the number of military flights and movement of the equipment. If the intensity on our side increased, UFOs appeared with the probability of 100 percent," explained Yeremenko. After six months of tests the authoritative commission came to three main conclusions.

First, modern science was not yet able to identify such phenomena. Second, it could be reconnaissance equipment of the U.S. or Japan. Third, it could be an impact of an extraterrestrial civilization. "The UFO topic today is ubiquitous. Precisely because of its scandalous nature serious scientists are not willing to identify their position on this issue. Pilots often see such objects, but they have a veto on this topic, so do astronauts. In confidential conversations they talk about their experiences meeting with UFOs, but they are afraid to speak publicly about this," said Vasily Yeremenko.

He believes that this subject requires a serious approach because it is a security issue. Yet, it is still a closed topic both in the U.S. and in Russia. Lt. Gen. Alexey Savin proceeded to reveal some aspects of the engagement of the Ministry of Defense. He headed the Expert Management Unit of the General Staff, whose task was to examine various unusual phenomena.

The main project of the unit was a state program on the discovery of intellectual human resources. The goal of the program was to identify ways to make the human brain work in a special regime of super-powers, making a person a superhuman. The Scientific Council of the program was led by an Academician Natalya Bekhtereva, who until her death served as a scientific director of the Institute of Human Brain of RAS.

Over two hundred highly skilled professionals from across the country participated in the program. "In the process of research, we came to the conclusion that a human was an energy and information system that receives information from outside. This is precisely why a human can manifest paranormal abilities," said Alexey Savin. In order to identify this external source of information, three groups were created. One group was formed from scientists, another - from military, and the third one was composed of women.

The group of women made the most significant progress in the research. Savin explained that they "wanted to make a contact with representatives of other civilizations. And we did it." According to him, a special method has been developed that allowed the human brain to tune into a contact. "We had to tune energy-contour of the human brain to a particular wave, like a radio," Alexey Savin explained.

No hypnosis, drugs, or other similar methods were used in the course of the experiment. A special system of testing was also developed to separate the incoming reports from hallucinations and insanity of the experiment participants. The experimental results were impressive: six participants were given a chance of physical contact, and two of them even managed to visit an alien ship. According to Savin, representatives of extraterrestrial civilizations revealed themselves gradually, giving away the information as they saw fit.

In particular, they talked about their government structure and education system. No information on the military could be obtained. The only thing they agreed to share was a scheme of the equipment for the diagnosis and treatment of various diseases. The head of the experiment explained that humans were like small children to them. "Our civilization is too young to be of interest to them as a subject for a dialogue. Because we are also a part of the universe, we may harm ourselves and other civilizations with our foolish actions, so they are looking out for us. "

The program of communication with extraterrestrial intelligence had been developed for several years until politics intervened. In 1993, the study was stopped and the unit disbanded. According to Savin, he was able to retain only a small number of documents, most of them, including photo reports, are still in the archives of the Ministry of Defense. Incidentally, the unique method for the development of the phenomenal abilities of an individual, until recently, was used in the Academy named after Gagarin until it was disbanded by the former Defense Minister Serdyukov. Yet, the core of the research team was preserved.

"Four years ago we tried to repeat the experiment, and we were successful," said Alexey Savin. According to him, today this work continues, and the "brains and talented people are still present in the defense industry." Answering the question of Pravda.Ru why it was decided to announce it to the media Savin replied: "Why hide something from people? Instead, they need to prepare for new challenges."

He believes that there are two global challenges today: climate change and shortage of drinking water. Russia has a special role in this process. "When we pass the point of bifurcation, people from all over will run to us. How will we meet them, with weapons? Of course, we will have to negotiate." Maybe all this is a puzzle from the "textbook" for young civilizations? Perhaps, aliens have arranged an experiment to see how we would handle it.

Here is a current list of countries that have begun partial or full UFO Disclosure.

http://www.educatinghumanity.com/p/ufo-and-alien-disclosure-list-of.html

- See more at:

http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2013/02/UFO-Disclosure-Russian-Aliens-Are-Real.html#sthash.54o4Vi0z.dpuf

Disclosure
Updated March 2014

Defining UFO/Alien Disclosure
UFO Disclosure is not confirming that UFOs are real, it is formal acknowledgment of extraterrestrial presence throughout the universe by prominent global nations, space agencies and religious institutions. Anyone careful enough to connect the dots can clearly see that we have been on a path leading to disclosure for sometime.

Interviews
Educating Humanity has assembled 25 of the best UFO/Alien Disclosure interviews that can be found anywhere. These interviews encompass, government employees, government contractors, military personnel, astronauts, professionals and even children. Check out UFO/Alien Disclosure Interviews.

Countries
This lists contains countries and organizations that have partially or fully disclosed UFO/Alien information, those that are in litigation to disclose all or specific files and countries that have released significant aspects of UFO and alien encounters.

Disclosure by Country
Argentina
Australia
Australia
Brazil
Bulgaria
Canada
Chile
China
Denmark
Ecuador
Finland
France
Germany
India
Iran
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Mexico
New Zealand
Peru
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United Nations
United States
Uruguay

Vatican City
Wikileaks

- See more at:
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/p/ufo-and-alien-disclosure-list-of.html#sthash.LLskfHaG.dpuf

[jerry]

long as we have media controlled by the PTB there will be no disclosure . If we ever get back to media acting as designated then we can expect disclosure along with real change as the kind Kennedy spoke of and Barry promised. Why our press was protected by the first amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the constitution. "Not to amuse or entertain not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental not to simply give the public what it wants. But to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers, our opportunities, to indicate our crises, our choices, to lead, mold, educate, and sometimes even anger public opinion. This means greater coverage and analysis of international news for it is no longer far away and foreign, but close at hand and local . It means greater attention to improved understanding of our news as well as improved transmission, and it means finally that government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information, outside the narrowest window of national security. So it is to the printing press, the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news that we look for strength and assistants. Confident with your help, man will be what he was born to be, free and independent ".JFK

[river]

long as we have media controlled by the PTB there will be no disclosure . If we ever get back to media acting as designated then we can expect disclosure along with real change as the kind Kennedy spoke of and Barry promised. Why our press was protected by the first amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the constitution. Not to amuse or entertain not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental not to simply give the public what it wants. But to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers, our opportunities, to indicate our crises, our choices, to lead, mold, educate, and sometimes even anger public opinion. This means greater coverage and analysis of international news for it is no longer far away and foreign, but close at hand and local . It means greater attention to improved understanding of our news as well as improved transmission, and it means finally that government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information, outside the narrowest window of national security. So it is to the printing press, the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news that we look for strength and assistants. Confident with your help, man will be what he was born to be, free and independent .

The only way that disclosure will come about , is two fold

The technology is on par , and/or higher with alien tech.

And that the public are willing to be informed , through , quality research of certain authors , by reading

Not TV, newspaper articles , tabloids and the like , but by serious researchers and authors

The truth is in front of our nose

Do we as the planetary society have the strength to face it , is the question

[jerry]

long as we have media controlled by the PTB there will be no disclosure . If we ever get back to media acting as designated then we can expect disclosure along with real change as the kind Kennedy spoke of and Barry promised. Why our press was protected by the first amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the constitution. Not to amuse or entertain not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental not to simply give the public what it wants. But to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers, our opportunities, to indicate our crises, our choices, to lead, mold, educate, and sometimes even anger public opinion. This means greater coverage and analysis of international news for it is no longer far away and foreign, but close at hand and local . It means greater attention to improved understanding of our news as well as improved transmission, and it means finally that government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information, outside the narrowest window of national security. So it is to the printing press, the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news that we look for strength and assistants. Confident with your help, man will be what he was born to be, free and independent .

The only way that disclosure will come about , is two fold

The technology is on par , and/or higher with alien tech.

And that the public are willing to be informed , through , quality research of certain authors , by reading

Not TV, newspaper articles , tabloids and the like , but by serious researchers and authors

The truth is in front of our nose

Do we as the planetary society have the strength to face it , is the question

Its a war on for your mind and any who have tried to even talk to most know its still a loosing battle ....simple due to MSM programing , in the world most other nations are awake and aware but the majority of people here in the US are nothing but zombies and last time I check Obama leads the free world by proxy and rules along the same lines with his executive orders . If we took a world vote your insight would hold water but the fact that only the dumbed down American public elects the free world leader leaves us at odds against the PTB and their NWO

[jerry]

"And that the public are willing to be informed" .....not quite

as far as they American public are concerned , they are informed!

ask any , fox and cbs nbc ,ect ect, sadly is where the majority still get there info,

I know from first hand experience. I try to have the conversations . its sad, and so very disappointing considering why would any one listen to someone as myself over the Bill Orilleys, Oprah Winfreys, The Veiw ,ect ect,ect,ect,ect.

[jerry]

I guess I'm on a different tangent here other than post intended , still just trying to make my point that even if they landed on the white house lawn and nbc , cbs said it didn't happen ....well guess what, most would believe it didn't happen

[Ulyse30]

(Français)J'ai choisi la main verte,car elle me rappelle une expérience que j'ai faite il y a longtemps,entre mon énergie interne et le mouvement de la plante et aussi pour la main guérisseuse,....!!!!(....,je répondais aux question de Wnlight,....) (English) (I was responding to the question of Wnlight,....) I chose à Green thumb,because it reminds me of an experience,i made long ago my internal energy and the movement of the plant and also to hand healer !!!!

[jagman]

J'ai choisi la main verte,car elle me rappelle une expérience que j'ai faite il y a longtemps,entre mon énergie interne et le mouvement de la plante et aussi pour la main guérisseur,.....!!!!

Can you translate into english for me?

[CaptnNemo]

J'ai choisi la main verte,car elle me rappelle une expérience que j'ai faite il y a longtemps,entre mon énergie interne et le mouvement de la plante et aussi pour la main guérisseur,.....!!!!

Can you translate into english for me?

" I chose the green hand, because it reminds me of an experience that I did a long time ago, between my internal energy and the movement of the plant and also for the healing hand.."

Whatever that means in this thread context..lol!! ..I don't really follow..

No pound intended Ulyse30 :) ..Im just the translator as per request ..haha!! :P

[seehas]

Disclosure happens when the earths population reaches a ciritical mass in "awakened" people and the disclosure will not be televised or be brought forward by any so called goverments.

Humans that do not awake in that timeframe maybe end up in deep underground bases because the cabal will try to protect their sheeps if possible.

Maybe the cabal plays the last card as "mrs rosin" stated in exactly these days and many people will fall for this lie.

The question is when will it happen some years ago i wasnt that optimistic but at the moment people are awakening and also alot of volunteering souls enter this chessboard this will speed up the whole process, interesting times indeed.

[KiwiElf]

Extra-terrestrial life discovered in outer space
Yahoo New Zealand August 20, 2014, 7:21 pm

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24765825/extra-terrestrial-life-discovered-in-outer-space/

Scientists aboard the International Space Station (ISS) have been left stunned to discover extra-terrestrial life in outer space.

They are stumped as to how to they got there but claim studies support the ability of the extra-terrestrials to exist in zero gravity, extreme temperatures, while being belted by cosmic radiation and despite a lack of oxygen.

The team of Russian experts stumbled across the startling find during a routine cleaning and polishing mission of the outside surface of the ISS.

“Results of the experiment are absolutely unique.” said the chief of the Russian ISS orbital mission Vladimir Solovyev, according to a report by Itar-Tass news agency.

"We have found traces of sea plankton and microscopic particles on the illuminator surface.”

Using "high-precision equipment”, the team apparently made the discovery during a routine cleaning operation.

"This is particularly needed during long space flights," Solovyev said.

"Plankton in these stages of development could be found on the surface of the oceans.”

"This is not typical for Baikonur. It means that there are some uplifting air currents which reach the station and settle on its surface," he was quoted as saying.

Not as exciting as I'd hoped from the headline, but little by little...

[Nick Matkin]

Only 30 days before Disclosure - according to the OP.

I'm ready... I think!

Nick

[PathWalker]

Only 30 days before Disclosure - according to the OP.

I'm ready... I think!

Nick

I do not believe in disclosure from MSM.
Only partial truth, and distorted stories.
MSM cannot. MSM can/may only suggest their controllers version.
Only the partially controlled alternative media (like PA) can may tell the truth. Only from alternative media it is possible to synthesis a bigger pic.

And since disclosure is happening now in the alternative media, the best the MSM can do and will do is confirm with a nod. Not a sound.

[Nat_Lee]

(Français)J'ai choisi la main verte,car elle me rappelle une expérience que j'ai faite il y a longtemps,entre mon énergie interne et le mouvement de la plante et aussi pour la main guérisseuse,....!!!!(....,je répondais aux question de Wnlight,....) (English) (I was responding to the question of Wnlight,....) I chose à Green thumb,because it reminds me of an experience,i made long ago my internal energy and the movement of the plant and also to hand healer !!!!

Bonjour mon ami,

Je te cherche sur la terre.
Je t'envoie ce message d'amour à ton coeur !
Amis Avalon, si vous avez des nouvelles de lui s.v.p. faites lui le message de me rejoindre.

Nous nous sommes parlé par textos la dernière fois en 2018 et j'ai vue ton nom passer comme par hazard il y a 3 semaines et il y a 3 jours une de nos amie commune à mentionnée ton nom dans une conversation ... Ce jour là, nous t'avons envoyé un message d'âme à âme et elle m'a dit que tu l'avais reçu à ton 3iem oeil. Depuis ce jour, je pense beaucoup à toi.

Je t'ai envoyé un message texte mais le numéro ne t'appartient plus, aussi je t'ai envoyé un courriel à une adresse icloud que tu m'avais donné il y a longtemps et maintenant ce message ici ... Je sais au fond de mon coeur que peu importe où tu te trouves, tu les reçevras en énergie.

Je te souhaite tant d'amour, j'ai très hâte de te revoir pour qu'on puisse parler ensemble pendant des heures de toutes les choses lumineuses qui existent et/ou n'existent pas et qu'on créera ensemble. Je t'envoie ce message que tu avais toi-même posté ici même:
"L'amour, c'est l'aile que Dieu a donnée à l'âme pour monter jusqu'à lui.
-Michel-Ange"

En attendant, allons nous rejoindre dans les autres dimensions d'existences et voyageons avec nos corps de lumière pour répendre l'amour à l'infini en tandem.

À très bientôt mon ami !
Nat