'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posts the most important information he's ever shared (4* General reveals 'The Plan')

[Bill Ryan]

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'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posted this yesterday (16 July 2014)

http://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Or download here: (25 mins, 30 Mb)

http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

Must listen. Here's my own summary, after playing this just once:



'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General. This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens on American soil. He refused. He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

The man has since been harassed. He's taken key possessions from his house, and (with his wife) is now trying to leave the US. The General was scared, shaken to the core.

Here are the details of what he wanted to be widely known. His urgent message was to get out of harm's way, and even to leave the country if you can.


There are soon to be a million illegals per month coming over the Mexican border, part of a 10-11 year plan.



The US dollar will be undermined by the end of 2015.



By 2017, no later (he said), the US will no longer exist. The US economy will be destroyed. There will be a 'shotgun merge' of the US with Canada and Mexico.



By the end of 2017, it will be announced that the US no longer exists as a functional government.



Major economic upheaval will ensue.



Announcements about all this have ALREADY been prepared for the mainstream media.



$8 billion (at least: maybe as high as $32 billion) black ops money has been utilized to rebuild the Silk Road. This is a real highway, super-strongly built, between London and South Korea, just for commercial and military transport. It will reduce transport time to Europe from 40 days (sea) to 14 days (road).



Financial control will be in the City of London, religious control in the Vatican.



The DC government will be relocated to Denver.



China will be the manufacturing engine of this 'new world'.



Plans are ON SCHEDULE (if not slightly ahead).



Drone pilot program: their star drone pilot has become very distraught, through being ordered to kill civilians. Drone programs to be run in the US are very dark: drone pilots have no connection with one another; they're not allowed ever to talk to one another. This ties into the handling of the American Civilian resistance.



The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".



He said most people buying firearms now are not emotionally ready to go up against trained tactical teams. They have no idea of the magnitude of professional, mercenary force that's coming against them.



When they bring down the US in 2017, bioweapons will be placed in key locations in American cities. He gave this example:

If you have a 33 oz can of Folgers coffee, and you have a bio-agent in there, and you open that can in a populated area, with a very light wind, you could have 20 million dead in 3 days. He said this kind of bioagent will affect the air and water, and will have a 98% kill rate. The weapon's 'signature' will not be known: complete plausible deniability, untraceable to the real source.



He said when this happens, all US passports will be canceled, and all ports and airports will be closed. Gunships will sink any small boats that attempt to leave the country by sea.



A full transcript is here. (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1040)

[jerry]

Fair warning . Lot of fear mongering in this one ...not recommended for the faint of heart. Many of us who are aware and awake to how bad things have gotten behind the scene and under the radar of the general public can not rule out this scenario actually taking place in the time frame discussed .

https://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Topics discussed:

1) The American military and killing Americans on American soil
2) 4-Star General wants to leave the U.S.
3) No one can predict exactly WHEN BIG EVENTS will begin to occur in the U.S.
4) A Million Illegal Aliens crossing southern border, annually (is a 10-11 year plan)
5) Complete undermining of USD by end of 2015
6) By 2017 the U.S. will no longer exist !!! Coincides with destruction of USD, and illegal alien invasion – U.S. to merge with Mexico, (Canada – North American Union?)
7) $8 – 32 Billion of “black ops” “money” was used to re-build the SILK ROAD (the REAL Silk Road, now from London! to Busan, S. Korea) – Only for military, commercial use. Can anyone confirm this?
8) WTF?!! General says: “NO WAY TO STOP THE N.W.O.” 100,000′s of Mercs (mercenaries) involved – to be used against U.S. Population.
9) Bioweapons in key locations, around U.S. Possible “20 million dead in 3 days”
10) All passports (out of U.S.) will be cancelled.
11) High-level covert op, to create chaos
12) By 2017 – is KEY
13) Silver will be an electronic price-fix, by the CME
14) “Get out of the U.S.” is recommended

[Zionbrion]

http://lindasepp.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/apocaloptimist.jpg

[BlueMuffin]

I don't generally pay attention to any such specifics with any real kind of investment due to long term general experience. However, I'd have to agree it might be best to get out of the US simply based on the general direction we're going that's evident even on the surface level, let alone the real circumstances behind the scenes.

Major changes are going to be occurring at some point in eventuality, that much I'd agree upon.

The real question would be, what are the best places to go?

[Flash]

Ugly thinking here, but for americans, probably no places are good

[LivioRazlo]

The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".

On one hand, I do believe that there is no way to stop the plans which have already been laid out over many decades by these PTB. However, all is not lost. The resistance is not dead - the sleeping giant that is the world population will one day awaken - and that in my mind is the small spark of hope which still burns bright in my soul, as well as many others. All we can do for the time being is prepare: stock up on non-perishable goods, water, firearms and ammunition, antibiotics and medication, non-GMO vegetable seeds, gasmasks and filters, and most importantly, know the lay of the land in which you are living.

[Zionbrion]

The real question would be, what are the best places to go?
Im in no position to leave, but if I were I would goto New Zealand(neutral nuclear free country) or somewhere in South America like Chile.

[Peace of Mind]

Been hearing these same threats for over a decade. First it was the year 2000, then the year 2012, then 2013...now its 2017. SMH
Someone is eating well off of all the negative energy these empty threats produce. I wonder how people really feel about these sought of articles. It seems like that's all these stories ever do, they just build fear. They never ever come true (and I'm glad of that). Years ago... I, along with many others wasted a lot of money storing food and supplies because of threads like this. I never see any positives in these sought of stories, no one really collaborates on what to do...they just display fear and converse about places to hide, unbelievable. If any of it was/is true I highly doubt the populace will fall under such control...if so, that can only happen because people were too scared to stand up to it...We, as a whole are too powerful to allow this to happen. Courage and Unity wins...while fear and division manifests suffering. Choose your future wisely, don't let others trick/train your mind to be a frightened slave. Stand for something or continue to fall for anything.

Peace

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

That is terrifying Bill.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Watching the news right now about the crash and then reading this. I want to cry.

[Peace of Mind]

We'll be fine people. We survived through countless empty/unconfirmed threats like this in the past. Check the archives and confirm them for yourself. If you feel the need to stock up on resources...do so. I've done the same in the past because I gave in to news like this. Lost money buying extra food, lost some of the extra food due to expiration. Lost some really good people in my life because the threats never happened...and was labeled a paranoid Conspiracy Theorists.

I really don't mind people giving fair warning, actually I respected them more than you may think...but there have been way too many failed predictions and the information is Always limited and vague, never enough to confirm in any way or form. You can't do anything with it but ponder on it and fear it...especially if you're not going to link up with humanity and make sure we prevent this from happening.

"The Resistance is already dead".

Not only is this a BS statement, it is very subjective and disrespectful to the other members of society, very offensive and suspicious.

In 2017 we all can be in full control of our lives and living in harmony...but we all have to actually work towards that vision...not the vision of enslavement and suffering. What thoughts do you have in your mind? Well ,think about this...We are the many, they are the few. Where is our faith, our courage, what is our collective mind telling us? hmmm...

Peace

[PurpleLama]

I am getting a 404 not found from the download link.






From Bill: My apologies. Link now fixed.
http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

[Operator]

I am getting a 404 not found from the download link.

Same here ... try this:

http://www.clipconverter.cc/

and then enter the url: http://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614






From Bill: My apologies. Link now fixed.
http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

[AriG]

Not trying to stir the pot here, but I have absolutely no faith in "insiders" who perpetrated the system, who suddenly jump sides. Feels like a psy-op to me.



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[QUOTE]'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General. This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare,

Then he has no doubt that there are infinitely more of us than there are of "them".


and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens. He refused.

Yet he has no moral dilemma in ordering US troops to fire on citizens of other nations.....


He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

He should have been escorted to The Hague


The man has since been harassed. He's taken key possessions from his house, and (with his wife) is now trying to leave the US. The General was scared, shaken to the core.

Not unlike the thousands of innocent Iraqi children who lost limb and life as a result of his Asymmetrical tactics.



There are soon to be a million illegals per month coming over the Mexican border, part of a 10-11 year plan.


That is actually a very good thing for the fiat US currency and the plight of millions of "Boomers" who are expecting their social security payments when they retire. More imported slaves to uphold the aged slaves...


The US dollar will be undermined by the end of 2015.


Didn't he mean 2008?


By 2017, no later (he said), the US will no longer exist. The US economy will be destroyed. There will be a 'shotgun merge' of the US with Canada and Mexico.


I think the thinking citizens (and maybe some of the not so thinking citizens) of the US don't necessarily equate our Nation's sovereignty with the fiat US currency. We are more than their money.


By the end of 2017, it will be announced that the US no longer exists as a functional government.


Hooray! That's the best news I've heard all day!


Major economic upheaval will ensue.

Yeah, things will improve once the government is out of the way!


The DC government will be relocated to Denver.


Maybe I should have been nice to Terry Considine. ;)


China will be the manufacturing engine of this 'new world'.


Uh.....you mean that China doesn't already make everything now?

Plans are ON SCHEDULE (if not slightly ahead).



Drone pilot program: their star drone pilot has become very distraught, through being ordered to kill civilians. Drone programs to be run in the US are very dark: drone pilots have no connection with one another; they're not allowed ever to talk to one another. This ties into the handling of the American Civilian resistance.


Ok, I am a drone pilot. I have been ordered to kill civilians. I have also been told to not talk to anyone. I am certainly not going to follow those orders....unless, of course, I am coerced. Don't know what to make of this. It would be interesting to see what comes of this prediction. I don't see it happening.


The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".


He has obviously never been to Kentucky. There are thousands upon thousands of Billy Bobs just waiting for any excuse to organize. These people are far crazier than any black ops ivy leaguer with a lick and a promise. These people don't care. They'll kill you as soon as look at you if you insult their dignity, let alone attempt to take away their freedoms. And they are armed. Heavily armed. Same goes for Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia....almost any place that isn't a "coast".

He said most people buying firearms now are not emotionally ready to go up against trained tactical teams. They have no idea of the magnitude of professional, mercenary force that's coming against them.


Again, he has obviously never been to Kentucky....


When they bring down the US in 2017, they have in key locations in the US where bioweapons are already placed. He gave this example:

If you have a 33 oz can of Folgers coffee, and you have a bio-agent in there, and you open that can in a populated area, with a very light wind, you could have 20 million dead in 3 days. He said this kind of bioagent will affect the air and water, and will have a 98% kill rate. The weapon signature will not be known -- complete plausible deniability, untraceable to the real source.


Motive? Why are they importing illegals if the population is decimated? BTW, those Mexicans? Bat **** crazier than most wild Kentuckians...Seems like they would rather just pay grandma's social security payment with manufactured money.
[LIST]

[yelik]

7 billion people are too difficult to control by military means and the shear logistics of it would leak out, hence the mind control technology which I suspect is now quite advanced.

The PTB - illuminati are many steps ahead of us and there are easier ways in my mind to wreak havoc on the world than a direct assault on the people or forced merger of USA, Canada and Mexico.

They have mind control to create violent tendencies in people and hence wars, who knows how many people are programed, bio-weapons, climate manipulation to cause droughts or floods, GMO's to create crop failure and famine, eathquakes, pandemics, EMP weapons to take everything and everyone off the grid, perhaps blamed on a solar event,

If the illuminati felt they were threatened I can imagine them resorting to extreme measures, probably hi-tech weapons or the good old false flag alien invasion.

Whatever they do is, in my opinion, difficult to predict, but will inevitably involve financial collapse as a priority. They are masters of deception and are good at what they do.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

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'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posted this yesterday (16 July 2014)

http://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Or download here: (25 mins, 30 Mb)

http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

Must listen. Here's my own summary, after playing this just once:



'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General. This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens on American soil. He refused. He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

The man has since been harassed. He's taken key possessions from his house, and (with his wife) is now trying to leave the US. The General was scared, shaken to the core.

<snip>



I wonder why the name of the Air Force 4 Star General was not specified. With only a few exceptions, the law only allows a total of 9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_duty_United_States_four-star_officers). If his name were made public, it may be possible to verify some details of this reported event. Or perhaps the purpose of this news may be to create fear, weaken resistance to the plan and feed the reptiles :hungry::croc:

I do not think 4 Star Generals of any service scare that easily, and I have the most confidence in the USMC.

[c0rv0]

So basically we have a anonymous guy that uses a nickname from a movie and is used to launch alerts (see a list of previous examples http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=598) that is being told by another anonymous, that claim to be a general, that everything that Alex Jones has said is true.
Especially this phobia with the "mexican invasion" seems to be the wet dream of a certain group of people.
But, a part all this, the inconsistency of this project reveal that this is not real: the PTB needs only to sign a couple of (secret) treaties to realize the "plan".
I believe that the alternative community must be more careful in propagating this kind of rumors because they damage the credibility of the background story, that is very serious.
Do we need to be physically (but not only) prepared ? Absolutely.
We have, other, better sources that indicate that is only a matter of time.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

<snip> All we can do for the time being is prepare: stock up on non-perishable goods, water, firearms and ammunition, antibiotics and medication, non-GMO vegetable seeds, gasmasks and filters, and most importantly, know the lay of the land in which you are living.

This needs a :bump:

The less dependent on a collapsing system the better off we all will be. I do not know the details of the changes, but I'll bet the changes will be extreme.

Make sure you have a plan for getting clean water (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=178). Approximately 3 days without clean water and you will need nothing else. Don't forget soap.

[c0rv0]

list of active 4 stars general in the US air force
Air Staff

Chief of Staff of the Air Force (CSAF) Gen Mark A. Welsh III CSAF.jpg Gen Mark A. Welsh III
Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force (VCSAF) Gen Larry O. Spencer VCSAF.jpg Gen Larry O. Spencer

Air Force Major Commands

Commander, Air Combat Command (ACC) General Gilmary M. Hostage III.jpg Gen Gilmary M. Hostage III
Commander, Air Education and Training Command (AETC) Gen Robin Rand.JPG Gen Robin Rand
Commander, Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) Wolfenbarger jc4.jpg Gen Janet C. Wolfenbarger
Commander, Air Force Space Command (AFSPC) Gen William L Shelton 2012.jpg Gen William L. Shelton
Commander, Air Mobility Command (AMC) McDew2014.JPG Gen Darren W. McDew
Commander, Pacific Air Forces (PACAF)
Air Component Commander for U.S. Pacific Command and
Executive Director, Pacific Air Combat Operations Staff (PACOPS) General Herbert J. Carlisle.jpg Gen Herbert J. Carlisle
Commander, U.S. Air Forces in Europe (USAFE)
Commander, U.S. Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA)
Commander, Air Component Command, Ramstein (AIR-COM Ramstein) and
Director, Joint Air Power Competence Center (JAPCC) General Frank Gorenc, USAF.jpg Gen Frank Gorenc

source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_duty_United_States_four-star_officers#Department_of_the_Air_Force
individuals in the list that went from "major to 4 star general in 4 years": none
just for reference:
Frank Gorenc required 23 years

General 2 August 2013
Lieutenant General 24 August 2009
Major General 1 February 2008
Brigadier General 1 October 2005
Colonel 1 September 1998
Lieutenant Colonel 1 March 1994
Major 1 June 1990

Gilmary M. Hostage 24 years

Major March 1, 1987
Lieutenant Colonel April, 1990
Colonel February 1, 1994
Brigadier General January 1, 2002
Major General August 1, 2005
Lieutenant General August 5, 2009
General September 13, 2011

[Christine]

In some short simple words we can lay to rest any argument about what none of us know for sure.

First the important thing to note is your own internal reaction, this is what you need to pay attention to. If you feel the need to take precautions just do it. Don't go into denial though.. there is a very real possibility that a lot of what is being said will play out, so please if you are sure make sure! I mean don't get complacent and do make sure others around you are waking up. 7 billion asleep zombies aren't going to make much resistance.

Second, there is no argument that will reach the truth.. both sides are being played out right now. Your energy and focus counts. Lay down positive waves, don't get caught up in using your energy to show you are right. I take these warnings seriously.. they are a call to action on all fields of reality.

My description to what I am perceiving is a multi dimensional chess game that is moving faster and faster.. only our own resilience and flexibility allow us to do the unexpected that is the game changer.

Two cents.

[Bill Ryan]

Especially this phobia with the "mexican invasion" seems to be the wet dream of a certain group of people.


I'm not there on the spot, but it certainly seems to be a real problem as far as I can see...



individuals in the list that went from "major to 4 star general in 4 years": none


I think he meant Major-General to Four Star General. From mere Major to General in four years would seem pretty much impossible.

Of course, from all the details provided, it should be fairly easy to identify this man....

[c0rv0]

I think he meant Major-General to Four Star General. From mere Major to General in four years would seem pretty much impossible.

Of course, from all the details provided, it should be fairly easy to identify this man....
V said Major, not Major-General. from Major General to General in four years is nothing exceptional.

But this is not the only inconsistency. We can take out
Commander, U.S. Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) andCommander, U.S. Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA)<-- is in Ramstein, Germany not the the US
Commander, Pacific Air Forces (PACAF) <-- is the Haway
Commander, Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) <-- she is a woman
Gen Robin Rand, Gilmary M. Hostage III, William_L._Shelton, Darren_W._McDew <-- more that 4 year between Major-General and General....

It is impossible to identify the General because this is a (bad) fabrication.

[Shezbeth]

I'll admit I haven't watched the video yet, but from the synopsis that has been graciously supplied, my initial response is thus;

Bring it on. This chess game was ongoing long before I was aware of it, but I have been aware of it long enough to have seen this move coming. To 'the opponent', I say "Do your worst, and I will do mine."

[Hervé]

This is only one "facet" of the plan...

... check out the WHOLE plan: True Cabal Insider, Dr. Richard Day, Delivers Talk in 1969 Outlining 'the Full Agenda' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73054-True-Cabal-Insider-Dr.-Richard-Day-Delivers-Talk-in-1969-Outlining-the-Full-Agenda)

[sirdipswitch]

Resistance dead? hmm. Interesting!!!

Funny how this seems to come right on the heels of the story about the U.S. Boarder patrol, standing against the Federal Government.

No resistance??? REALLY???

The absolutely toughest RESISTANCE, this world has EVER known, sleeps within the boarders, of The United States of America.

We might be Boomers.... but we are far from dead.:wizard:

[ghostrider]

just by speaking the words , events can be set in motion ... All this goes pretty much in line with what Henoch ( Enoch in English ) foretold in the Henoch prophecies , a very long , long time ago ... a letter was drafted and sent to 32 governments in 1958 written by Edward Albert Meier , they ignored him , and now the prophecies come to pass just as he predicted ... America will have two civil wars , the second follows shortly after the first ... the U.S. will be divided into five sectors ... Russia and China will unite and attack America , stealing food will by punished by death , one third of every man loses his life , one third of the trees burnt up , one third of the sea life dead , Robotic killing machines will be released on mankind and they will develop AI and the military will lose control of them ... the secret government will release strong nuclear/biological/chemical weapons on the citizens ... Gabriel - Henoch-Isaiah-Ezekiel-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Muhammad-Quetzal-Beam , all gave the exact same message to Earth mankind over and over , the same spirit form has been trying to WARN us for 389,000 years but , eyes to see but , we don't see , ears to hear but , we don't hear ... people have no idea , what's about to happen ... climate change is just the beginning ...

[Craig]

Again I would like to point you to the Jim Stone website (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com), below the current news of the dreadful plane crash he has an in-depth view on the illegals streaming into the US from South, but they are not Mexican but other Central American countries and mostly kidnapped children (kidnapped by white NGO females) have a read and go a bit further down for a bit more info, but this does seem to meet the 10-11 year plan of immigrants entering the US

[Conehead]

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'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posted this yesterday (16 July 2014)

http://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Or download here: (25 mins, 30 Mb)

http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

Must listen. Here's my own summary, after playing this just once:



'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General. This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens on American soil. He refused. He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

The man has since been harassed. He's taken key possessions from his house, and (with his wife) is now trying to leave the US. The General was scared, shaken to the core.

Here are the details of what he wanted to be widely known. His urgent message was to get out of harm's way, and even to leave the country if you can.


There are soon to be a million illegals per month coming over the Mexican border, part of a 10-11 year plan.



The US dollar will be undermined by the end of 2015.



By 2017, no later (he said), the US will no longer exist. The US economy will be destroyed. There will be a 'shotgun merge' of the US with Canada and Mexico.



By the end of 2017, it will be announced that the US no longer exists as a functional government.



Major economic upheaval will ensue.



Announcements about all this have ALREADY been prepared for the mainstream media.



$8 billion (at least: maybe as high as $32 billion) black ops money has been utilized to rebuild the Silk Road. This is a real highway, super-strongly built, between London and South Korea, just for commercial and military transport. It will reduce transport time to Europe from 40 days (sea) to 14 days (road).



Financial control will be in the City of London, religious control in the Vatican.



The DC government will be relocated to Denver.



China will be the manufacturing engine of this 'new world'.



Plans are ON SCHEDULE (if not slightly ahead).



Drone pilot program: their star drone pilot has become very distraught, through being ordered to kill civilians. Drone programs to be run in the US are very dark: drone pilots have no connection with one another; they're not allowed ever to talk to one another. This ties into the handling of the American Civilian resistance.



The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".



He said most people buying firearms now are not emotionally ready to go up against trained tactical teams. They have no idea of the magnitude of professional, mercenary force that's coming against them.



When they bring down the US in 2017, bioweapons will be placed in key locations in American cities. He gave this example:

If you have a 33 oz can of Folgers coffee, and you have a bio-agent in there, and you open that can in a populated area, with a very light wind, you could have 20 million dead in 3 days. He said this kind of bioagent will affect the air and water, and will have a 98% kill rate. The weapon's 'signature' will not be known: complete plausible deniability, untraceable to the real source.



He said when this happens, all US passports will be canceled, and all ports and airports will be closed. Gunships will sink any small boats that attempt to leave the country by sea.


I only hope this breaking news is to get people to get off their dollars and go buy stuff. In my lifetime..."fear news", of this type, has always been about the economy and usually starts hitting the wires when the US economy is on the brink of recession. The velocity of money is important to keep things moving along. It really doesn't matter what people buy...so long as they are not sitting on their money.

Otherwise this seems so crazy, so dire!

At least 98% would perish if what you outlined above is true...bio weapons, drones, (Heavily armed, technically superior, tactical elimination teams) Most everyone is divided and distrustful...shut off the internet and just about everyone would become paranoid and any meaningful resistance is non existent... AI pursuing the stragglers?...

Personally I prepare the best I can for my family and others for unforeseen events...If all of the above is coming at us and were to really happen...well, I hope my Guardian Angel really really thinks I/we have something special to offer mankind after the carnage. Survival in this scenario probably might be just lucky.

After listening to the MP3...it's just my opinion, that the fellow is nothing more than a useful idiot. Thats all! Elections are upcoming in Nov. and political operators will be out in full force looking to put out false stories and spin stories however it may favor THEIR side... He may not be aware and is simply passing on info that was presented to him as legit, trying to make a living OR he is part of the subversion...

Thats how I read this...so far...I hope my intuition is right...time will tell.

[lil-liana]

I wonder how this is going to play out on Australian shores.... It's no doubt inevitable that we will be called to arms sooner than later by our NWO puppet Tony Abbott as he is already following Obama's lead with healthcare & civil rights. An act of terror is iminent on the scale of the Bali bombings or bigger the media are telling us & now a plane a comercial civilian plane has been shot out of the sky with not only a siginificant amount of Aussies on the plane but our brothers & sisters from our neighbouring continents....

Time to really seriously think/plan getting off the grid perhaps earlier than one initially though.... interesting times ahead. the Revolution & resistance MUST prevail!!!

[gripreaper]

I must add, prophesies are predictions based on the current trajectory. In other words, they are a "warning" that , if you don't change your ways, this is the most likely outcome, BUT we HAVE the POWER to change it if we choose.

Those who sell the notion that prophesies are immutable are WRONG.

[Tyy1907]

Not to downplay this mans message, but keep in mind his mental state. He's in fear for his life and is overwhelmed with hopelessness. So to him, it seems, there is no hope. God bless him for getting it out. Humanity is starting to rise up. It is happening. They have their plans, well, laddyfrickinda. Theres a lot more of us than them.

[lastlegs]

When I read the resistance is dead I remember during the first weeks of the Iraq war that they bombed out the UN delegation at a major hotel under complete military coverage by two men with donkeys. At 70 I have read many almost unbelievable stories of the resistance movements through out history. I recently read that when 50% of the people are in recognized opposition to the government revolution is inevitable. Right now we are about one third on the right, one third on the left, and one third totally out of it. Ironically, the right and the left are pretty fiscally in agreement with what is wrong just not who is responsible. Already they are slowly moving more together.

A living experience novel of how to function and who you will really have to fear in a collapse scenario is Follet's Jackdaws about the occupation of Denmark by the Nazis. And who you will fear are your neighbors.

[wnlight]

This announcement is a planned release from the Illuminati. Its purpose is to stir up fear now, and to control you. It is a mixture of truth with mind control tactics.
you can see through it, Many already have.

The Message:
◦ There are soon to be a million illegals per month coming over the Mexican border, part of a 10-11 year plan.
This is happening and will continue.
◦ The US dollar will be undermined by the end of 2015.
The worst year for the US dollar all be 2016, then the economy will begin to grow stronger. The Fed Res Bank will close in 2017.
◦ By 2017, no later (he said), the US will no longer exist. The US economy will be destroyed. There will be a 'shotgun merge' of the US with Canada and Mexico.
The US government will have major reforms in 2017. The US may merge with Canada and Mexico, but much later.
◦ By the end of 2017, it will be announced that the US no longer exists as a functional government.
See above. The announcement will be made and the US reformed. The US government is already dysfunctional.
◦ Major economic upheaval will ensue.
This will begin in 2017.
◦ Announcements about all this have ALREADY been prepared for the mainstream media.
This is a signature of the illuminati. They have been planning this for decades.
◦ $8 billion (at least: maybe as high as $32 billion) black ops money has been utilized to rebuild the Silk Road.
This may be true, but how does it fit?
◦ Financial control will be in the City of London, religious control in the Vatican.
This has already happened. But religious control is diminishing.
◦ The DC government will be relocated to Denver. No.
◦ China will be the manufacturing engine of this 'new world’.
This is already happening.
◦ Plans are ON SCHEDULE (if not slightly ahead).
◦ Drone pilot program: their star drone pilot has become very distraught, through being ordered to kill civilians. Drone programs to be run in the US are very dark.
This is already happening.
◦ The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead”.
There is a US Air Force General that released this info. He has not been truthfully portrayed in the announcement. Also, the “resistance is futile” prediction is a typical mind control tactic.
◦ He said most people buying firearms now are not emotionally ready to go up against trained tactical teams. They have no idea of the magnitude of professional, mercenary force that's coming against them.
Mind control tactic.
◦ When they bring down the US in 2017, bioweapons will be placed in key locations in American cities.
Fear tactic.
◦ He said when this happens, all US passports will be canceled, and all ports and airports will be closed. Gunships will sink any small boats that attempt to leave the country by sea.
Fear tactic.

[Omni]

just by speaking the words , events can be set in motion ... All this goes pretty much in line with what Henoch ( Enoch in English ) foretold in the Henoch prophecies , a very long , long time ago ... a letter was drafted and sent to 32 governments in 1958 written by Edward Albert Meier , they ignored him , and now the prophecies come to pass just as he predicted ... America will have two civil wars , the second follows shortly after the first ... the U.S. will be divided into five sectors ... Russia and China will unite and attack America , stealing food will by punished by death , one third of every man loses his life , one third of the trees burnt up , one third of the sea life dead , Robotic killing machines will be released on mankind and they will develop AI and the military will lose control of them ... the secret government will release strong nuclear/biological/chemical weapons on the citizens ... Gabriel - Henoch-Isaiah-Ezekiel-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Muhammad-Quetzal-Beam , all gave the exact same message to Earth mankind over and over , the same spirit form has been trying to WARN us for 389,000 years but , eyes to see but , we don't see , ears to hear but , we don't hear ... people have no idea , what's about to happen ... climate change is just the beginning ...

This sounds more like an extraterrestrial fantasy than a prophecy. lol I don't think such will happen.. It falls into the desires of darkness if humanity does not keep developing. And I believe forces are at work that are willing to put their necks out for us to have that opportunity(to develop)..

It's not wise to underestimate the cabals sociopathic behavior and plans, but I just don't see such big disasters happening. World war 3 could happen. but I do not see a civil war happening in America. I don't see a bunch of nukes going off either.

It's always good to have a decent stock of food, storables, frozen food, flashlights/candles etc. But I wouldn't bank on big disasters happening.

[Hazel]

Such fears have beset mankind on this grand scale since the Cuban Missile Crisis threats of the early 1960's... my mother carried those fears (like countless millions of others at that time) for her born and unborn children.

That generations imbued sense of dread, has infected mankind on mass since those days... playing out in 'our psyche' on a level that undermines our collective functional sanity. Each Age has had its miasma... ours is one of not just personal, but global annihilation! Enough to destabilise all potentialities for a deeper sense of wellbeing and belief in the ability to thrive.

Are we not in continuation of infusing ourselves, our youth and future generations with this virus?

Staying alert to what threatens survival is essentially a well honed primitive aspect of our consciousness... necessary yes.
But not to be mindful of this mechanism and to not use the ability to 'bracket it out' in the face of uncertainty, and the not yet known.. is arguably a canker upon the existence of Humanity.

Is indelibly re-imprinting our future 'selves'/generations with this stain / legacy really where its at? Or is there another approach yet to be realised?

How to moderate our tendency to dive into the darkest potentialities of 'the call of doom'?
Whether or not all this is a ploy of the PTB... we need to be on to this...



** for the record am not about undermining sensible actions toward practical preparedness for changes that may be 'down the pike'...

Just sayin'

Hold fast y'all...
After all said and done, explicitly there is so much love and mystery in life for us to journey with... alongside all the darker aspects that exist in 'reality' or nae...

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[superconsciousness]

...and 'V' said a year and a half ago that God told him (he recognized the inner voice...) that in "90 days' everything would come crashing down.

This is a classic psyops disinfo feed - 'V' is widely known to promote scenarios that are consistent with anti-U.S. gov't positions...an easy target for psyops (obviously...). Speaking of gullible, Lindsey Williams new DVD video summary notes will be posted in this thread and compared with this 'V' disinfo feed in about 24 hours. The one consistency between the two that has been independently validated through our network is that 2015 will in fact be a chaotic year...and also worth noting is Wilcock's latest claim of imminent mass arrests is .b.s.

Again.

Lather, rinse, repeat...duh. You can thank the Russian KGB/GRU for many of these types of disinfo feeds. Lindsey does not fall into that category but others like 'V' , Fulford, and everyone's favorite "all ETs are good" GRU disinfo agent Greer put that check in the box.

The Cold War never ended. The most dangerous enemy is the one that people do not believe exists....yeah, yeah, we get the whole parallel civilization / secret gov't thing. The parallel civilization GDP is around $1 trillion annually. They'll have their 15 minutes of fame starting next year, but it will be short-lived so relax and find ways to serve others while this whole global psychodrama runs its course.

[Hawkwind]

If the information presented in this report is true, then I don't see any way out of the dilemma short of divine intervention. The best course of action under those circumstances would be to cultivate the divine spark in ourselves and each other, then intervene. If the information presented in the report is not true, the best course of action would be to cultivate the divine spark in ourselves and each other, then co-create the world we'd like to live in. Under either circumstance allowing ourselves to be paralyzed by fear or despair is not a propitious response.

[Snowflower]

Predictions like this one only assume one source of coercion: US PTB. The chaos on the planet has multiple sources: magnetic pole shift, peak oil, resource depletion, population explosion, earth expansion, unknown energies from space, political worldwide machinations, ad nauseum. Another thing to note: the "prediction" is always 2 years into the future. That's because people are only moved to action if "it" will happen within a 2 year time frame, but any less than that and they hopelessly see no reason to prepare.

After 14 years of "insider information," I've become quite jaundiced about "insiders." They KILL anyone who is a real threat to them before he goes public. As pointed out in the thread, there are not enough 4 star generals to maintain anonymity. Nothing in the warnings has not been said multiple times: nothing new here.

My conclusion is to file the "information" under "probably irrelevant, probably disinfo fear-mongering, take no action." My hope for the planet and it's people, is that Gaia will shake herself free before the various political machinations destroy her and us along with her. My personal plan remains on the same path: preparation not with hoarding of food supplies, but rather with the foundation needed to become a small society living in harmony with the earth, obtaining all necessities from the earth, being children of the earth.

[sirdipswitch]

Visibly shaken? In light of adhersity? hmm.

Arrested? Trying to get him and his family out of the country? wonder which it is?

Won't give his name? Seems to me they would already know. By giving his name, we might be able to prove his story. or not.

Why isn't the good General furious over this and trying to rally opposition to it????

Shakin in his boots??? Don't sound like the kinda guy I want charge!! of anything.

And where pray tell??? Is the optimism on this Forum?????

I ain't gettin ready for nothin. Cuz I been listenin to this crap for 40 years.

I carry a pocket knife that's sharp enough to shave with. That's all I need. When TSHTF, I can use it to kill one of them, and then use their guns and amo. chuckle chuckle.

[christian]

All of this is going on, the preparations are being made. Yet it has to be noted that this general has been seriously intimidated. His warning doesn't come from a place of detached reflection.

I think it's very good to know what is going on, what is planned, and to spread the knowledge. But the general is wrong about the resistance. It's not dead. I'm still alive and so are many, many others.

The only true cure for the mess we're in is to embrace our humanity, to have integrity and a backbone. This is where the fight is at, developing true internal strength and applying it when the harsh reality comes knocking on one's door.

The rubber will meet the road, in the US and most everywhere. Time for a gut check.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

<snip> The only true cure for the mess we're in is to embrace our humanity, to have integrity and a backbone. This is where the fight is at, developing true internal strength and applying it when the harsh reality comes knocking on one's door. <snip>

So true. And it will be much easier to do that with food in one's belly and clean water to drink.

[wnlight]

Hey! I'm one of those apacaloptimists. We have some more bad times immediately ahead of us, but then things will get better. This is true because humans will persevere. The NWO will fail because more and more humans are waking up despite the efforts to keep us asleep. I think that the dark cabal, the shadow US government and the US military will have their way for another five years, then they will fall.

[Bill Ryan]

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This is off-topic on this thread (but certainly something valuable to discuss elsewhere) -- but I'm pretty sure the 'resistance' has been weakened considerably by a broad-brush, blanket-strategy electronic mind control program that's been in full force for a number of years.

Here are Al Bielek and Preston Nichols, extracted from this interesting summary page. This comes from really quite a long time ago. Note what's said about the 'camps' -- specifically for those who are naturally resistant to the mind control program. For me, this rings all too true.

http://www.whale.to/b/orion.html






So what did they actually prove that they could do when the experiments were over?

What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control a person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was unique to an individual could be put into the computer program for the transmitter. A second order wavelength would be transmitted that has a lower attenuation and affects that persons mind directly. There could be a command to do anything focused at the person. Once a device was constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide scale. A mental message was put out that if anybody heard the message they were to call a certain phone number. Over 600 calls came from all over the East coast all the way down to Florida. It works.

There's a racial signature and also a universal signal for the human race. The government has used all three to target specific individuals. They have also done group messages targeted on a specific racial or ethnic group. That's common. In Boston and New York they were doing experiments on "mood control" on the cities. Transmitters used no longer exist, but the technology does.

Do targeted individuals perceive what they are receiving as their own thought?

Yes.

Is there any defense against that?

Yes and no. Theoretically no. This is what the government depends on. Practically speaking, they can't get everyone, because some people are naturally resistant, depending on their level of mental and psychic development. Perhaps 5% of the population do not respond to these signals. If they get 95% coverage, they don't care about that 5%. That's what they have the riot squads and the concentration camps for. There is no defense unless you can interfere with that signal. Some people just don't react.

So they transmit a thought signal?

Not exactly. If you were put on an EEG, you would exhibit a certain pattern of electrical responses. These can be recorded and they are unique to you. It can be recorded and stored and replicated on a computer. If they can replicate your RNA/DNA pattern they've got you too - for life.

[bruno dante]

I have mixed feelings when I read these posts. On the one hand I'd certainly encourage Bill or anyone else to share anything they might feel is valuable or helpful. I'd certainly rather they share it than keep it to themselves. On the other hand it seems I've been hearing this type of stuff for years and I'm growing a little tired of it. The warnings come and go, and nothing ever seems to happen.

But perhaps there's some value to this after all, even as much of it never seems to materialize. I recall "Charles" saying (please stifle your groans for a moment), and I believe it, that when certain theories in the alt media align with what's really occuring on the top of the pyramid, these plans then tend to be pushed back or scrapped all together. It makes sense. So perhaps that's partially responsible for the seeming inaccuracy of many of our guesses/insider info.

[Cardillac]

"all roads lead to Rome"- so why do people continue to deny this concept and think this concept is a 'relic' and no longer valid?-

hey, folks, wake up; all roads lead to the Vatican (located, coincidentally in Rome) and not to it's servile 'minions' known as "Jewish Banksters" (the book-keepers)-

Larry

[TargeT]

I think he meant Major-General to Four Star General. From mere Major to General in four years would seem pretty much impossible.

Of course, from all the details provided, it should be fairly easy to identify this man....
V said Major, not Major-General. from Major General to General in four years is nothing exceptional.

But this is not the only inconsistency. We can take out
Commander, U.S. Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) andCommander, U.S. Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA)<-- is in Ramstein, Germany not the the US
Commander, Pacific Air Forces (PACAF) <-- is the Haway
Commander, Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) <-- she is a woman
Gen Robin Rand, Gilmary M. Hostage III, William_L._Shelton, Darren_W._McDew <-- more that 4 year between Major-General and General....

It is impossible to identify the General because this is a (bad) fabrication.

And there is no such thing as a biological agent with a 98% kill rate in a short time window.

Even ANTHRAX only has like a 33% kill ratio (usually the elderly or previously compromised immune system/children).....

Also, the economic moves are FAR too fast paced to be realistic (the time lines offered).

I'll soundly write this one off and sleep well doing so.


HOWEVER, I think there are many bits of truth in this message, just a bit too much fear and exaggeration to be taken "as-is"

[Heartsong]

Did the statements by "V" make you feel frightened, vulnerable, hopeless? Do you now feel without direction, faith, history, or future?

Then the purpose of the message has served it's purpose. The events described need not happen because message itself has left you servile, malleable, and powerless.

[Bill Ryan]

Did the statements by "V" make you feel frightened, vulnerable, hopeless? Do you now feel without direction, faith, history, or future?

Not at all. Just focused and prepared, if necessary.

We do live in these times at the heart of certain realities. Denying them merely empowers those who want to enslave us. And they DO want to enslave us.

At the same time, these things can certainly be changed. It helps us all the time to know what needs changing. :)

[blake]

The trouble with all the above, is that those who have been keeping pace with the situation of our ongoing situation has been reading about this for over twenty years. I remember when they were saying that it was a done deal that Mexico, Usa and Canada would be be united. As a matter of fact its hard to say I havn't heard any of this before. The same story written twenty years ago 15 years ago ten years ago five years ago. Very dramatic but true, maybe to a degree but maybe in another twenty years they will be saying the say thing just as dramatically as V gives

[Tanner]

Fascinating information/interview! Thanks Bill! This is invaluable info imperative for peoples welfare.

-Tanner

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Thanks, Bill, for the link. Certainly as of today (Friday, July 18th) the pot is being stirred! As usual, each person needs to read and look with their own individual discernment upon events. No doubt there is a plan to manifest a deliberate controlled reality. We as individuals must be aware and begin to become aware of our own power. The "timeline" is fluid, but the slow march towards the major goals outlined by the General seem believable. Watch your thoughts, get clear and take whatever action serves your individual purpose. (I have also had an increasing intuition to avoid cell phones - this seems to dovetail with the military decision to "map" our electromagnetic signal). Take care. Peace.

[Conehead]

Predictions like this one only assume one source of coercion: US PTB. The chaos on the planet has multiple sources: magnetic pole shift, peak oil, resource depletion, population explosion, earth expansion, unknown energies from space, political worldwide machinations, ad nauseum.


You forgot Sharknados in your list ( :

[Milneman]

Went out today and pulled some weeds. Hollyhocks aren't as high as they were last year, but that's to be expected with all the rain we've had. The delphinium at the back door is normally about six to eight feet tall, but it's a foot-two feet and the flower spike probably won't break four feet. Too much rain. On the other hand, the lilies are getting so thick and fat that I can't wait to see what'll break out this year. Peonies were amazing.

What's this got to do with anything in this thread?

The world is still going on. The world will continue to go on with or without us. Something I was told many years ago by an elder was that when this all comes crashing down, we don't need to be afraid. Mother Earth will care for those who know how to be respectful of Her.

So, I talk to my tomatoes and they're giving me fruit. I know where the edible herbs and berries are that most people have forgotten how to pick.

I listened to this as I was writing a day or so ago and what struck me was how confident gorilla feels about what he's saying. I also listened to an interview on Open Minds Radio from about 2011 that did a pretty intensive study of Billy Meier. Learned some things about that case that I didn't know that put an entirely different spin on things. Namely, the credibility of the case for me went into the toilet.

Take it from me, chicken little...


*Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see, and you'll be ok.

[Limor Wolf]

I have also had an increasing intuition to avoid cell phones - this seems to dovetail with the military decision to "map" our electromagnetic signal. Take care. Peace.

I never had a cell phone, I must be the only one in my country that did not crumble under the social pressure. 18 years ago, when I was offered one, I held it in my hand and felt the negative and quite overwhelming electromagnetic interference in the environment and knew that I will give up the 'pleasure'. Later on, at my work place I had to handle up to eight cell phones with some clients calling all at once : )


Originally posted by Bill Ryan: "Note what's said about the 'camps' -- specifically for those who are naturally resistant to the mind control program. For me, this rings all too true"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZsEiHl3zSE
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72504-Alcyon-series&p=847450&viewfull=1#post847450

[PHARAOH]

So if I get this correctly, the General whom was entrusted to conduct this type of warfare is the one spreading this information. So he went along with the program and is now running scared because they asked that he give orders to the Military to fire on Americans and this he will not do….???

So he would go along with any and all plans for the NWO but when asked to fire on Americans, he decided this was the straw that broke the camels back… Seems like he is doing a marvelous job of completing his intended task of killing the sleeping giant. He is giving us all doom and gloom and informing us that there is no stoping this since the rebellion is dead…. said the person entrusted to conduct this form of warfare…???

Sorry but I selling this one down the same rabbit hole as all the others. Just MHO :confused:

[Belle]

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,..."
William Shakespeare


Seems to me a play is being put on the world stage just for us. It's gone on so long no one remembers what Act we are on right now.

The scene described in the op has been presented to the audience for our consideration by the whistleblower....er, I mean, playwright...and is intended to draw as many on stage as active participants as possible. This scene, as always, is only penciled in...requiring the reaction/feedback of the 'extras' to decide whether it requires a rewrite or a move on to the next scene.

The director has become quite adept at moving the 'extras' in many directions at once to frighten, confound and confuse, but ultimately his expertise is to stop the action and begin again when the end result is not to his liking. (ie. How many lone nut shooter scenarios have we had to endure...and still no gun control yet...take 10 or 12 or 15...oops, not working? Let's change it up a bit and throw in a Boston bombing, and then see what happens.)

Me? I prefer to remain in the audience, watching as closely as a poker player studying his opponents. There's a 'tell'...there's always a 'tell'. Observe enough and you'll find it.

Now what do you suppose would happen should we rob them of our active participation and feedback? Hmmm, I wonder...

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Now what do you suppose would happen should we rob them of their feedback? Hmmm, I wonder...

Or better yet, game players, actors and actresses that we are in this multi-dimensional chess game, give them fake feedback.

And do the unexpected. :director:

I think that's what Captain Kirk would do. :laser:

Sun Tzu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War) too.

Maybe plant an Avalon Crystal July 20 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71560-THE-AVALON-GRID-For-all-vicarious-mountaineers-a-little-adventure-to-share--The-Avalon-Cairn-and-now-the-Avalon-Crystal-&p=852517&viewfull=1#post852517). The dark side may not know how to deal with an act of positive intention from a powerful group. That's one of my surprises for the opposition.

[wnlight]

So, I am confused about what protection there might be from mind control. What measures can I take? Wear a tin-foil hat? :) Clearly, I cannot depend upon normal, rational thought challenging processes to think it through because these thoughts have been planted beyond that point. After all the mind-control "thought" was my own, or so it seems. Of course, I can ask for protection from my guardian angel.

[superconsciousness]

2015 Lindsey Williams DVD – received July 18, 2014
Mark Johnson, Certified Financial Planner, 480-837-5971, www.fountainwealth.com; understands both Wall St and Bible, over 30 years securities investments experience
Cycles of Seven – 2015 will be one of the most catastrophic years in our lives.
Elite friend recently stated that there was nothing significant to worry about for a year and a half.
Comparison to Biblical scenario where there were seven good years and seven bad years.
Sept/Oct 2015 expected timeframe when the wheels come off the wagon.
Economic/stock market perspective also follows cycles of seven years – since Oct 1929
It is important to align with God’s intentions for your life.
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Blood Moons: Iraq-Lebanon-Jordan-Israel with Pastor David Bowen, Interpreting the Times, www.interpretingthetimes.com
God is trying to warn you
Festival times (fall and spring events) consistent with dates of blood moons
Several nations will form an alliance and attack Israel: Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt and Lebanon (Psalm 83); Russia aligns with Iran to attack Israel
Look at current events – ISIS/ISIL has formed an Islamic State with the plan to take Baghdad
In the end times, Babylon will rise – interpreted as Islamic State to capture Baghdad
Primary difference between Sunni and Shia is a leadership issue; Jordanian king considered an infidel
Jordan, Sinai Peninsula (Egypt), Lebanon and Gaza to be captured, then Israel will be attacked
This process will take months
When the anti-Christ comes in, this will initiate a seven year period of peace that the anti-Christ will end halfway through the seven year period
Putin in power thru at least 2018
Natural gas used by Putin to control Europe
~4 years ago, Israel found natural gas off their coast; now Israel is in a position to export this natural gas, which will create tension between Israel and Russia
For the anti-Christ to come in, there has to be chaos – Muslims refer to this as the 12th Imam
False peace in the Middle East will result in an attack 3-1/2 years following the initial peace agreement
Feast of Trumpets in Sept 2015 – catastrophic events expected in 2015
Russia needs to elevate, align with Israel’s enemies; America must decline in order to empower Russia to fulfill scripture
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Elite Riot Control – Paul Harding
Smart meters used in homes to subdue Americans covertly while used to remotely read power consumption overtly; frequencies used (900 MHz) used to connect remotely
Danger is frequency – 900 million times oscillation/second; half wave roughly the size of the brain
Harding slept ~3 feet from the location of his home’s meter; the night after the smart meter was installed, it woke him up
List of symptoms associated with smart meters microwave radiation (which were subsidized by the gov’t): sleep problems, stress, agitation, headaches, ringing in the ears, concentration problems
Cell phone towers produce similar effects
Children become hyperactive/ADHD
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IBC hospital – alternative cancer treatment, stem-cell therapy, alivizatos treatment, medical yperthermia, etc. – Tijuana Mexico with Dr. Rodriguez – internationally accredited hospital
Updates will be posted to www.lindseywilliams.net
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From another trusted source: war (regional - in the Middle East) is expected to break out in November 2014.

[Limor Wolf]

Now what do you suppose would happen should we rob them of our active participation and feedback? Hmmm, I wonder...

Hi Belle, I would say that, at this point, either a good manifestation for ourselves and a bad one for the rest whom we consider our fellow human beings, or either earning a few more quiet hours untill they come and get us, very much like the sleeping crowd do. There are some practicle things that happens here and are advancing rappidly

Awarness may save life, if it informs, there may come the tenth of a second in which you can find you made the right decision based on that knowledge. If nothing happens than nothing bad has happened, you have learned to conquer your fears, or learned to express them more healthily

Sying that, you have written beautifully, and not without a basis in itself..

Just my 2c

Limor ~

[Zionbrion]

So, I am confused about what protection there might be from mind control. What measures can I take? Wear a tin-foil hat? :) Clearly, I cannot depend upon normal, rational thought challenging processes to think it through because these thoughts have been planted beyond that point. After all the mind-control "thought" was my own, or so it seems. Of course, I can ask for protection from my guardian angel.
Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true for the average person, but I think it is possible to kick out all other thoughts and entities, or at least recognize them, if you try really hard to feel where they are coming from.

[gripreaper]

maybe its time to review the strong leadership which the west exemplifies, and the example we have shown to the world!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbZqvMu2cQ

[Hazel]

Went out today and pulled some weeds. Hollyhocks aren't as high as they were last year, but that's to be expected with all the rain we've had. The delphinium at the back door is normally about six to eight feet tall, but it's a foot-two feet and the flower spike probably won't break four feet. Too much rain. On the other hand, the lilies are getting so thick and fat that I can't wait to see what'll break out this year. Peonies were amazing.

What's this got to do with anything in this thread?

The world is still going on. The world will continue to go on with or without us. Something I was told many years ago by an elder was that when this all comes crashing down, we don't need to be afraid. Mother Earth will care for those who know how to be respectful of Her.

So, I talk to my tomatoes and they're giving me fruit. I know where the edible herbs and berries are that most people have forgotten how to pick.

I listened to this as I was writing a day or so ago and what struck me was how confident gorilla feels about what he's saying. I also listened to an interview on Open Minds Radio from about 2011 that did a pretty intensive study of Billy Meier. Learned some things about that case that I didn't know that put an entirely different spin on things. Namely, the credibility of the case for me went into the toilet.

Take it from me, chicken little...


*Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see, and you'll be ok.

Aaa ah... So what l wrote on my little kitchen chalk board last week fits with your message chicken licken':

"The sky isn't falling"....

[Belle]

Now what do you suppose would happen should we rob them of our active participation and feedback? Hmmm, I wonder...

Hi Belle, I would say that, at this point, either a good manifestation for ourselves and a bad one for the rest whom we consider our fellow human beings, or either earning a few more quiet hours untill they come and get us, very much like the sleeping crowd do. There are some practicle things that happens here and are advancing rappidly

Awarness may save life, if it informs, there may come the tenth of a second in which you can find you made the right decision based on that knowledge. If nothing happens than nothing bad has happened, you have learned to conquer your fears, or learned to express them more healthily

Sying that, you have written beautifully, and not without a basis in itself..

Just my 2c

Limor ~

Awareness, absolutely yes. Reaction to each and every thing they do, no.

When 'they' decide to do a thing, 'they' never give up until they get what they want...step by step, little by little. And they learn a lot along the way by the reaction...think of the Bundy Ranch situation. Or the North American Union of Canada, Mexico and the US which has been planned for many years...perhaps the influx of illegals is just another step to create such a union that no one wants, furthering the goal of complete globalization. And who really believes in a kinder, gentler Bildeberger that is simply looking out for our best interests?

imo, apparently, they require our agreement and mistakenly take silence as agreement...stepping gingerly to avoid waking the sleeping giant...yet becoming bolder as they gain confidence in their ability to control. So far, they have met little resistence.

Think of Newton...'for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction'... delayed reaction allows the energy to build. The sleeping giant is awakening, slowly. All it will take is a trigger...it could be something seemingly minor...and all that withheld energy will explode in a way they do not expect. That seems to be what they are trying to avoid.

We are not powerless. They are not in total control. In fact, they always signal what they are about to attempt years in advance. Observation reveals those signals...withheld reaction does not allow them to refine the plan. There is a 'chink in their armor'...find it and the balance of power shifts...even if it is ever so slight, it will make a difference.

As far as active participation in the 'play'...think 'what if they threw a war and no one came'. If it is a game they are playing, I don't want to play that game...let them play with themselves.

[Belle]

So, I am confused about what protection there might be from mind control. What measures can I take? Wear a tin-foil hat? :) Clearly, I cannot depend upon normal, rational thought challenging processes to think it through because these thoughts have been planted beyond that point. After all the mind-control "thought" was my own, or so it seems. Of course, I can ask for protection from my guardian angel.
Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true for the average person, but I think it is possible to kick out all other thoughts and entities, or at least recognize them, if you try really hard to feel where they are coming from.

It is not intuition.

'Know thyself'. Everything else must be trashed...like a fire sale, all must go...until only you are left. Do the work...you will know the difference.

[happyuk]

Well said. This comes across as fearmongering and not much else. These people seldom if ever elaborate on who "they" is exactly. Best antidote is to laugh at it all really.

[betoobig]

Does anyone else think is time for the REAL/spiritualhuman/REVOLUTION??
i know it has already started but could we boost it???
Perhaps awaking more people, perhaps exposing, somehow, to the great public stuff we all know in Avalon.
Perhaps if we all focus and visualize this "negative ones" exposing themselves... could that happen???
My heart, mind, soul and spirit are with ALL THE GREAT AMERICAN CITICENS
I know: one more time being aware will make the diference
never forget WE ARE ONE
LOVE

[Bill Ryan]

2015 Lindsey Williams DVD – received July 18, 2014
Mark Johnson, Certified Financial Planner, 480-837-5971, www.fountainwealth.com; (http://www.fountainwealth.com;) understands both Wall St and Bible, over 30 years securities investments experience
Cycles of Seven – 2015 will be one of the most catastrophic years in our lives.
Elite friend recently stated that there was nothing significant to worry about for a year and a half.
Comparison to Biblical scenario where there were seven good years and seven bad years.
Sept/Oct 2015 expected timeframe when the wheels come off the wagon.
Economic/stock market perspective also follows cycles of seven years – since Oct 1929
It is important to align with God’s intentions for your life.
===================
Blood Moons: Iraq-Lebanon-Jordan-Israel with Pastor David Bowen, Interpreting the Times, www.interpretingthetimes.com (http://www.interpretingthetimes.com)
God is trying to warn you
Festival times (fall and spring events) consistent with dates of blood moons
Several nations will form an alliance and attack Israel: Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt and Lebanon (Psalm 83); Russia aligns with Iran to attack Israel
Look at current events – ISIS/ISIL has formed an Islamic State with the plan to take Baghdad
In the end times, Babylon will rise – interpreted as Islamic State to capture Baghdad
Primary difference between Sunni and Shia is a leadership issue; Jordanian king considered an infidel
Jordan, Sinai Peninsula (Egypt), Lebanon and Gaza to be captured, then Israel will be attacked
This process will take months
When the anti-Christ comes in, this will initiate a seven year period of peace that the anti-Christ will end halfway through the seven year period
Putin in power thru at least 2018
Natural gas used by Putin to control Europe
~4 years ago, Israel found natural gas off their coast; now Israel is in a position to export this natural gas, which will create tension between Israel and Russia
For the anti-Christ to come in, there has to be chaos – Muslims refer to this as the 12th Imam
False peace in the Middle East will result in an attack 3-1/2 years following the initial peace agreement
Feast of Trumpets in Sept 2015 – catastrophic events expected in 2015
Russia needs to elevate, align with Israel’s enemies; America must decline in order to empower Russia to fulfill scripture
========================
Elite Riot Control – Paul Harding
Smart meters used in homes to subdue Americans covertly while used to remotely read power consumption overtly; frequencies used (900 MHz) used to connect remotely
Danger is frequency – 900 million times oscillation/second; half wave roughly the size of the brain
Harding slept ~3 feet from the location of his home’s meter; the night after the smart meter was installed, it woke him up
List of symptoms associated with smart meters microwave radiation (which were subsidized by the gov’t): sleep problems, stress, agitation, headaches, ringing in the ears, concentration problems
Cell phone towers produce similar effects
Children become hyperactive/ADHD
========================
IBC hospital – alternative cancer treatment, stem-cell therapy, alivizatos treatment, medical yperthermia, etc. – Tijuana Mexico with Dr. Rodriguez – internationally accredited hospital
Updates will be posted to www.lindseywilliams.net (http://www.lindseywilliams.net)
====================
From another trusted source: war (regional - in the Middle East) is expected to break out in November 2014.


Thank you! :)

I'm particularly interested in this final sentence from the promo for the DVD on http://lindseywilliams.net:
(http://lindseywilliams.net:)
The Elite have zapped you and you are wondering, “What in the world is wrong with me?"Can you say more about what Lindsey is referring to? Is he talking about Smart Meters, as summarized above? Or even more than that?

[Pam]

-------

'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posted this yesterday (16 July 2014)

http://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Or download here: (25 mins, 30 Mb)

http://projectavalon.net/V_Emergency_Report_16_July_2014.mp3

Must listen. Here's my own summary, after playing this just once:



'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General. This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens on American soil. He refused. He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

The man has since been harassed. He's taken key possessions from his house, and (with his wife) is now trying to leave the US. The General was scared, shaken to the core.

<snip>



I wonder why the name of the Air Force 4 Star General was not specified. With only a few exceptions, the law only allows a total of 9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_duty_United_States_four-star_officers). If his name were made public, it may be possible to verify some details of this reported event. Or perhaps the purpose of this news may be to create fear, weaken resistance to the plan and feed the reptiles :hungry::croc:

I do not think 4 Star Generals of any service scare that easily, and I have the most confidence in the USMC.


Ron, I love to see common sense and deductive reasoning in play here. It adds a little balance to the fear mongering.

Respectfully, Pam

[Pam]

list of active 4 stars general in the US air force
Air Staff

Chief of Staff of the Air Force (CSAF) Gen Mark A. Welsh III CSAF.jpg Gen Mark A. Welsh III
Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force (VCSAF) Gen Larry O. Spencer VCSAF.jpg Gen Larry O. Spencer\

Air Force Major Commands

Commander, Air Combat Command (ACC) General Gilmary M. Hostage III.jpg Gen Gilmary M. Hostage III
Commander, Air Education and Training Command (AETC) Gen Robin Rand.JPG Gen Robin Rand
Commander, Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC) Wolfenbarger jc4.jpg Gen Janet C. Wolfenbarger
Commander, Air Force Space Command (AFSPC) Gen William L Shelton 2012.jpg Gen William L. Shelton
Commander, Air Mobility Command (AMC) McDew2014.JPG Gen Darren W. McDew
Commander, Pacific Air Forces (PACAF)
Air Component Commander for U.S. Pacific Command and
Executive Director, Pacific Air Combat Operations Staff (PACOPS) General Herbert J. Carlisle.jpg Gen Herbert J. Carlisle
Commander, U.S. Air Forces in Europe (USAFE)
Commander, U.S. Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA)
Commander, Air Component Command, Ramstein (AIR-COM Ramstein) and
Director, Joint Air Power Competence Center (JAPCC) General Frank Gorenc, USAF.jpg Gen Frank Gorenc

source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_duty_United_States_four-star_officers#Department_of_the_Air_Force
individuals in the list that went from "major to 4 star general in 4 years": none
just for reference:
Frank Gorenc required 23 years

General 2 August 2013
Lieutenant General 24 August 2009
Major General 1 February 2008
Brigadier General 1 October 2005
Colonel 1 September 1998
Lieutenant Colonel 1 March 1994
Major 1 June 1990

Gilmary M. Hostage 24 years

Major March 1, 1987
Lieutenant Colonel April, 1990
Colonel February 1, 1994
Brigadier General January 1, 2002
Major General August 1, 2005
Lieutenant General August 5, 2009
General September 13, 2011


c0rv0, From now on I will be paying attention to your posts. I respect the way you look at things. You seem to have excellent reasoning ability and discernment.

Thanks for your input , Pam

[Conehead]

[QUOTE=wnlight;855116]So, I am confused about what protection there might be from mind control. What measures can I take? Wear a tin-foil hat? :) Clearly, I cannot depend upon normal, rational thought challenging processes to think it through because these thoughts have been planted beyond that point. After all the mind-control "thought" was my own, or so it seems. Of course, I can ask for protection from my guardian angel.
Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true f

===

[ Mod-edit: - the above post was apparently an unintended mistake, as explained in Post #78 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855630&viewfull=1#post855630), below. -- Paul. ]

[Conehead]

I tried to post the original hack post unsuccessfully so far....Below is the hack post


Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true f

I did not post this!!! Please remove!!! Thanks!

===

[ Mod-edit: - See my explanation in Post #78 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855630&viewfull=1#post855630), below. -- Paul. ]

[superconsciousness]

2015 Lindsey Williams DVD – received July 18, 2014
Mark Johnson, Certified Financial Planner, 480-837-5971, www.fountainwealth.com; (http://www.fountainwealth.com;) understands both Wall St and Bible, over 30 years securities investments experience
Cycles of Seven – 2015 will be one of the most catastrophic years in our lives.
Elite friend recently stated that there was nothing significant to worry about for a year and a half.
Comparison to Biblical scenario where there were seven good years and seven bad years.
Sept/Oct 2015 expected timeframe when the wheels come off the wagon.
Economic/stock market perspective also follows cycles of seven years – since Oct 1929
It is important to align with God’s intentions for your life.
===================
Blood Moons: Iraq-Lebanon-Jordan-Israel with Pastor David Bowen, Interpreting the Times, www.interpretingthetimes.com (http://www.interpretingthetimes.com)
God is trying to warn you
Festival times (fall and spring events) consistent with dates of blood moons
Several nations will form an alliance and attack Israel: Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt and Lebanon (Psalm 83); Russia aligns with Iran to attack Israel
Look at current events – ISIS/ISIL has formed an Islamic State with the plan to take Baghdad
In the end times, Babylon will rise – interpreted as Islamic State to capture Baghdad
Primary difference between Sunni and Shia is a leadership issue; Jordanian king considered an infidel
Jordan, Sinai Peninsula (Egypt), Lebanon and Gaza to be captured, then Israel will be attacked
This process will take months
When the anti-Christ comes in, this will initiate a seven year period of peace that the anti-Christ will end halfway through the seven year period
Putin in power thru at least 2018
Natural gas used by Putin to control Europe
~4 years ago, Israel found natural gas off their coast; now Israel is in a position to export this natural gas, which will create tension between Israel and Russia
For the anti-Christ to come in, there has to be chaos – Muslims refer to this as the 12th Imam
False peace in the Middle East will result in an attack 3-1/2 years following the initial peace agreement
Feast of Trumpets in Sept 2015 – catastrophic events expected in 2015
Russia needs to elevate, align with Israel’s enemies; America must decline in order to empower Russia to fulfill scripture
========================
Elite Riot Control – Paul Harding
Smart meters used in homes to subdue Americans covertly while used to remotely read power consumption overtly; frequencies used (900 MHz) used to connect remotely
Danger is frequency – 900 million times oscillation/second; half wave roughly the size of the brain
Harding slept ~3 feet from the location of his home’s meter; the night after the smart meter was installed, it woke him up
List of symptoms associated with smart meters microwave radiation (which were subsidized by the gov’t): sleep problems, stress, agitation, headaches, ringing in the ears, concentration problems
Cell phone towers produce similar effects
Children become hyperactive/ADHD
========================
IBC hospital – alternative cancer treatment, stem-cell therapy, alivizatos treatment, medical yperthermia, etc. – Tijuana Mexico with Dr. Rodriguez – internationally accredited hospital
Updates will be posted to www.lindseywilliams.net (http://www.lindseywilliams.net)
====================
From another trusted source: war (regional - in the Middle East) is expected to break out in November 2014.


Thank you! :)

I'm particularly interested in this final sentence from the promo for the DVD on http://lindseywilliams.net:
(http://lindseywilliams.net:)
The Elite have zapped you and you are wondering, “What in the world is wrong with me?"Can you say more about what Lindsey is referring to? Is he talking about Smart Meters, as summarized above? Or even more than that?

Yes, the 'zap' reference is smart meters and also cell phone towers - microwave radiation, which is thickest in cities and adjacent to cell phone towers and in close physical proximity to the smart meters and wifi hotspots in homes/businesses. There wasn't anything 'Earth shattering' in the DVD, but the other people presenting content helped clarify a few points.

Humanity is evolving beyond this mess, but we haven't gone THROUGH the mess collectively yet. The debate within this thread seems to be an either-or debate, or a 'think positive' meme. Of course thinking positive is the way to go in life, but distorting reality that misleads people into thinking that the situation in the Middle East will be resolved without a major conflagration, and that butterflies and unicorns are now running the show in planet Earth is unbalanced at best, destructive in nature. See everything for what it is...we are facing a very destructive period of time in our collective existence, and life will become more and more difficult for most people for an extended period of time. The looming conflict COULD be resolved, but there is nothing in place of sufficient magnitude to thwart a regional conflict, at least none that our network has brought to my attention...yet. Hopeful that something will manifest to avert a huge mess of destruction, but again, nothing observed yet. Anyway, here is what can be expected over the next six months: Israel take control over Gaza in a similar manner to that of the Golan Heights and kicks out as many non-Israeli/Jews as possible. This in turn empowers the Islamic State as al Qaeda continues working behind the scenes to stage an escalation (forget about puppeteers pulling strings in the region for a moment). Israel's neighbors are in fact coordinating an escalation with Israel, and no nation including Israel is interested in intervening to stop this escalation; otherwise, they would have already done so.

This conflict will be resolved BEFORE the dollar collapse, and the fall of 2015 for a hard reset of the global currency/financial system is a likely timeframe. Europeans are likely to broker the peace agreement, as many have expected. They're just playing a figurehead role with no real power to back it up, but once this conflict has run its course, enough parties will elect to voluntarily allow Europe to play this role. Fiat money was never really worth anything, so something will be released to replace fiat currencies following the conflict. After the conflict there will be a firmer understanding of the reallocation of assets, and as a result the center of global economics will shift from West to East, but Europe will still play a lynchpin role. In other words, Europe will still hold enough cards to call many of the shots in the world that will be shaped by this looming conflict in the Middle East. Tit for tat escalation will continue, until October or November 2014 when some hard core fighting begins, but everyone will understand that this whole mess has been nothing more than a resurgence of an ongoing cold war gone hot between the U.S. and Russia.

Russia will lose this next conflict...but no one really wins either. Power will be further consolidated, a conclusion that is largely consistent with what Lindsey Williams and 'V' have concluded, the only major item that seems to be debated is who will be controlling the elite. The correct answer is ignorance and fear...and the chaos that is empowering organizations such as the Islamic State are reflective of the consolidation of control under the guiding hand of ignorance and fear. Seems like fear porn, right? Well, it's somewhat like a replay of World War II...big suck for a couple years, then it all falls to pieces in a relatively swift fashion. The manner in which the elite control paradigm devolves is cosmological in nature, which is the unique facet to this latest transformative collective experience. Once the elite finally lose control over the masses, never again will they regain the upper hand.

There, finished the post on a good note. :)

[Conehead]

maybe its time to review the strong leadership which the west exemplifies, and the example we have shown to the world!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbZqvMu2cQ

He was at least funny...personally I like that better than someone that is condescending to us.

Either or same result for us I suppose.

They have something to please us all... ( :

[161803398]

The Judges are being pumped up for whatever is going on too. Yesterday in Court, a perfectly (used to be) level headed Judge said to my client: "let me tell you a story". Then he went on about someone who criticized a decision a Judge 200 years ago made and the Judge ordered the guy's hand cut off. If any judge had said that to anyone 10 years ago; there would be protests in the streets. This is the kind of idea that is being put into their heads now...and even or especially, perhaps, a Supreme Court Judge, is too egotistical to see through it.

[pbsluvr]

Just from scanning this thread I know enough not to listen to the "general's testimony".
More fear mongering. Who started this thread? This is not the same insightful, analytical person I used to respect.

[superconsciousness]

He never was...rebalancing U.S. hegemony into a fractured multipolar world through covert sabotage of the current geopolitical and economic infrastructure should not be construed as progress, unless of course you enjoy centralized control over every facet of your life. It's referred to as the "New World Order" for a reason, but its days are numbered, regardless of this little stunt going down in the big sand pit through next fall or the stuff going on in the U.S. as outlined by 'V' - http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10907.

Yawn....too predictable. Superconsciousness has all parties outflanked. Always has, always will, but the arrival of Superconsciousness is unlikely to transpire next year, so we'll have to contend with all of this mess during the interim.

[ThePythonicCow]

I tried to post the original hack post unsuccessfully so far....Below is the hack post


Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true f

I did not post this!!! Please remove!!! Thanks!

As best as I can tell, that post, Post #71, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388), did come from your computer (at least from the same IP address you've been posting from the last few days.) That post #71 appears to be an incomplete quote of Zionbrion's earlier Post #61, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855143&viewfull=1#post855143).

I'll leave Post #71 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388) in place, or else my response here won't make sense, but I'll remove most of the other discussion of that unfortunate post. I'll add a Mod-Note to Post #71 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388), directing the interested reader's attention to this here present post for an explanation of the confusions.

I doubt your Avalon account was hacked; rather it appears, from what I can see (which may be incomplete and misleading) to be an accidental and uncompleted response to an earlier post.

(P.S. -- Contrary to what it may seem, I don't read every message on this forum. I was not reading this thread until someone posted a Visitor Message to me, alerting me to the concerns.)

[blake]

2015 Lindsey Williams DVD – received July 18, 2014
Mark Johnson, Certified Financial Planner, 480-837-5971, www.fountainwealth.com; understands both Wall St and Bible, over 30 years securities investments experience
Cycles of Seven – 2015 will be one of the most catastrophic years in our lives.
Elite friend recently stated that there was nothing significant to worry about for a year and a half.
Comparison to Biblical scenario where there were seven good years and seven bad years.
Sept/Oct 2015 expected timeframe when the wheels come off the wagon.
Economic/stock market perspective also follows cycles of seven years – since Oct 1929
It is important to align with God’s intentions for your life.
===================
Blood Moons: Iraq-Lebanon-Jordan-Israel with Pastor David Bowen, Interpreting the Times, www.interpretingthetimes.com
God is trying to warn you
Festival times (fall and spring events) consistent with dates of blood moons
Several nations will form an alliance and attack Israel: Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt and Lebanon (Psalm 83); Russia aligns with Iran to attack Israel
Look at current events – ISIS/ISIL has formed an Islamic State with the plan to take Baghdad
In the end times, Babylon will rise – interpreted as Islamic State to capture Baghdad
Primary difference between Sunni and Shia is a leadership issue; Jordanian king considered an infidel
Jordan, Sinai Peninsula (Egypt), Lebanon and Gaza to be captured, then Israel will be attacked
This process will take months
When the anti-Christ comes in, this will initiate a seven year period of peace that the anti-Christ will end halfway through the seven year period
Putin in power thru at least 2018
Natural gas used by Putin to control Europe
~4 years ago, Israel found natural gas off their coast; now Israel is in a position to export this natural gas, which will create tension between Israel and Russia
For the anti-Christ to come in, there has to be chaos – Muslims refer to this as the 12th Imam
False peace in the Middle East will result in an attack 3-1/2 years following the initial peace agreement
Feast of Trumpets in Sept 2015 – catastrophic events expected in 2015
Russia needs to elevate, align with Israel’s enemies; America must decline in order to empower Russia to fulfill scripture
========================
Elite Riot Control – Paul Harding
Smart meters used in homes to subdue Americans covertly while used to remotely read power consumption overtly; frequencies used (900 MHz) used to connect remotely
Danger is frequency – 900 million times oscillation/second; half wave roughly the size of the brain
Harding slept ~3 feet from the location of his home’s meter; the night after the smart meter was installed, it woke him up
List of symptoms associated with smart meters microwave radiation (which were subsidized by the gov’t): sleep problems, stress, agitation, headaches, ringing in the ears, concentration problems
Cell phone towers produce similar effects
Children become hyperactive/ADHD
========================
IBC hospital – alternative cancer treatment, stem-cell therapy, alivizatos treatment, medical yperthermia, etc. – Tijuana Mexico with Dr. Rodriguez – internationally accredited hospital
Updates will be posted to www.lindseywilliams.net
====================
From another trusted source: war (regional - in the Middle East) is expected to break out in November 2014.



Thank you for sharing , but what did Lindsey Williams say about the reset last November ? a 90 day window?
What did he say about the dollar being dead in 2012, and Ameicans not being able to purchase food becasue it would be too expensive. Lindsey Willimas seems to be alway warning about something happneing in a year that just never transpires. What makes the fall of 2015 any different from his past statements? When the fall of 2015 comes out, will he be talking about 2017?

[ThePythonicCow]

Thank you for sharing , but what did Lindsey Williams say about the reset lasy November ? a 9 day window?
What did he say about the dollar being dead in 2012 and Ameicans not being able to purchase food becasue it would be too expensive.

He said nothing about those matters in this DVD :).

[Conehead]

I tried to post the original hack post unsuccessfully so far....Below is the hack post


Im learning more and more everyday which thought are mine and which thoughts aren't. I believe there are all sorts of thoughts and feelings we feel everyday that are not our own, whether they come from another being in close proximity or from mind control it does matter, because both are easy to confuse for your own thoughts. I have always been one to listen to my 'intuition' but as of late I have realized it is not always my intuition, sometimes its other entities or 'mind control' steering me down the path of fear rather than love. I live at the end of a road in the country surrounded by forest, and I am still constantly bombarded by entities.
I think there are some that will argue that you cannot tell the difference between your thoughts and 'mind control' thoughts, and I think that is very true f

I did not post this!!! Please remove!!! Thanks!

As best as I can tell, that post, Post #71, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388), did come from your computer (at least from the same IP address you've been posting from the last few days.) That post #71 appears to be an incomplete quote of Zionbrion's earlier Post #61, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855143&viewfull=1#post855143).

I'll leave Post #71 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388) in place, or else my response here won't make sense, but I'll remove most of the other discussion of that unfortunate post. I'll add a Mod-Note to Post #71 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--&p=855388&viewfull=1#post855388), directing the interested reader's attention to this here present post for an explanation of the confusions.

I doubt your Avalon account was hacked; rather it appears, from what I can see (which may be incomplete and misleading) to be an accidental and uncompleted response to an earlier post.

(P.S. -- Contrary to what it may seem, I don't read every message on this forum. I was not reading this thread until someone posted a Visitor Message to me, alerting me to the concerns.)

Thanks for looking into this Paul.

I never wrote a single word in post 71 at any time and it was not an accidental post of mine.

I was reading another thread and came back to this thread to read any new posts and the post (71)was there. I was not posting in other threads either...

Are you certain this post came from my IP address?

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks for looking into this Paul.

I never wrote a single word in post 71 at any time and it was not an accidental post of mine.

I was reading another thread and came back to this thread to read any new posts and the post (71)was there. I was not posting in other threads either...

Are you certain this post came from my IP address?

Yes - I realize that all the words in post 71 are not yours - they are all quoted words from a previous post in this thread. It looks for all the world to me that someone or something pressed "Reply With Quote" to one of the earlier posts on this thread, deleted a portion of the quoted post, and posted it.

Yes, post 71 came from your IP address.

[cuitlahuac]

The problem is that so far, reality is far more incredible than reality.



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Here are the details of what he wanted to be widely known. His urgent message was to get out of harm's way, and even to leave the country if you can.


There are soon to be a million illegals per month coming over the Mexican border, part of a 10-11 year plan.



The US dollar will be undermined by the end of 2015.



By 2017, no later (he said), the US will no longer exist. The US economy will be destroyed. There will be a 'shotgun merge' of the US with Canada and Mexico.



By the end of 2017, it will be announced that the US no longer exists as a functional government.



Major economic upheaval will ensue.



Announcements about all this have ALREADY been prepared for the mainstream media.



$8 billion (at least: maybe as high as $32 billion) black ops money has been utilized to rebuild the Silk Road. This is a real highway, super-strongly built, between London and South Korea, just for commercial and military transport. It will reduce transport time to Europe from 40 days (sea) to 14 days (road).



Financial control will be in the City of London, religious control in the Vatican.



The DC government will be relocated to Denver.



China will be the manufacturing engine of this 'new world'.



Plans are ON SCHEDULE (if not slightly ahead).



Drone pilot program: their star drone pilot has become very distraught, through being ordered to kill civilians. Drone programs to be run in the US are very dark: drone pilots have no connection with one another; they're not allowed ever to talk to one another. This ties into the handling of the American Civilian resistance.



The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".



He said most people buying firearms now are not emotionally ready to go up against trained tactical teams. They have no idea of the magnitude of professional, mercenary force that's coming against them.



When they bring down the US in 2017, bioweapons will be placed in key locations in American cities. He gave this example:

If you have a 33 oz can of Folgers coffee, and you have a bio-agent in there, and you open that can in a populated area, with a very light wind, you could have 20 million dead in 3 days. He said this kind of bioagent will affect the air and water, and will have a 98% kill rate. The weapon's 'signature' will not be known: complete plausible deniability, untraceable to the real source.



He said when this happens, all US passports will be canceled, and all ports and airports will be closed. Gunships will sink any small boats that attempt to leave the country by sea.

[birddog]

It's not over until the fat lady sings......remember that.

[Shezbeth]

It's not over until the fat lady sings......remember that.

I agree, though if I may borrow from Carlos Castaneda;

It is not over until Death touches you. Until then, the game is on. :becky:

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It's not over until the fat lady sings......remember that.

I agree, though if I may borrow from Carlos Castaneda;

It is not over until Death touches you. Until then, the game is on. :becky:

I think it is never over. The available resources and rules of the game are what may change at the croaking.

We are on Prime Creator's eternal journey of self discovery. So we might as well enjoy the ride.

:focus:

[Centauri]

I used to be afraid but now...

NOW I'M JUST DEFIANT! hEheHeh
Thanksya Mr. Ryan for this information.

Why did some get so spooked? It's not like we just recieved this information from any solid source. So use it to arm yourself for a possible future scenario. The part that seems to have spooked a few was the 'resistance was dead' stuff. This person would be hard-pressed to know the status of every group ready to go. If we get totally smeared, then we use the next few incarnations to fight these things (if reincarnation is a real probability and I think it may be). No big deal!

So I'm with AriG on this one. I say to the 'general', let them bring it on and we shall see!

[GrnEggsNHam]

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Herbert, Frank (1965). Dune.

This has stuck with me and helps remind me who I am and that fear is not an outside force. If you experience the emotion of fear then it is you who created it and nothing else.

[Revere]

Everyone…

No one is staying on this plane forever! And we of right mind have no definitive knowledge of our time on this plane. If we are blessed, it is only our personal Mission that is clear! But, we are here not to be jumping from one fear mongering shout to the next! Move on and at most enjoy the fear mongering rush that this little story generates…like a good horror movie. We have more important things to be about people! Do not dwell on this story. We have much bigger and important things to be about. Put your attention on what is true and good and that matters. Those true and good things… Can Be Our Future! God help us! Amen!

Peace,
Revere

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's 'V' talking about this (and a lot more) a couple of days later (19 July), in Sheila Zilinski's 'Weekend Vigilante' radio show.

http://blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2014/07/20/weekend-report-the-weekend-vigilante-the-hagmann-hagmann.mp3

His recap of the information he was told by the General begins shortly after 16:05 and lasts till about 24:30.

Very brief summary:


He starts by saying again that the General was very concerned that people must GET OUT OF THE WAY of what's coming.



He emphasizes that holding dollars between now and 2015 is very dangerous.



The US will cease to exist as we know it by 2017, and no later.



He emphasizes:
1) Get out of paper investments.
2) Get out of the US if you can.



What we're currently seeing (MH17, Ukraine, Gaza, with much more to come), are all data points, so to speak. We should take the big picture 'view from space' and not get stuck too closely on individual issues.



It's all DESIGNED to be chaotic, disturbing and confusing. It will not let up. Chaos and confusion are intended.

[Tangri]

Fair warning . Lot of fear mongering in this one ...not recommended for the faint of heart. Many of us who are aware and awake to how bad things have gotten behind the scene and under the radar of the general public can not rule out this scenario actually taking place in the time frame discussed .

https://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-071614

Topics discussed:

1) The American military and killing Americans on American soil
2) 4-Star General wants to leave the U.S.
3) No one can predict exactly WHEN BIG EVENTS will begin to occur in the U.S.
4) A Million Illegal Aliens crossing southern border, annually (is a 10-11 year plan)
5) Complete undermining of USD by end of 2015
6) By 2017 the U.S. will no longer exist !!! Coincides with destruction of USD, and illegal alien invasion – U.S. to merge with Mexico, (Canada – North American Union?)
7) $8 – 32 Billion of “black ops” “money” was used to re-build the SILK ROAD (the REAL Silk Road, now from London! to Busan, S. Korea) – Only for military, commercial use. Can anyone confirm this?
8) WTF?!! General says: “NO WAY TO STOP THE N.W.O.” 100,000′s of Mercs (mercenaries) involved – to be used against U.S. Population.
9) Bioweapons in key locations, around U.S. Possible “20 million dead in 3 days”
10) All passports (out of U.S.) will be cancelled.
11) High-level covert op, to create chaos
12) By 2017 – is KEY
13) Silver will be an electronic price-fix, by the CME
14) “Get out of the U.S.” is recommended


This is highly disturbed/mixed information by deliberately created informant.
My first impression on this numbered info is a schizophrenic delirium symptom or forcefully misinterpreted. It doesn't compete with the source's expected intelligence.

It has a common conspiracy subjects in it, but it does not correlate with reality checks.
Every country (even Canada) has think tank in every subjects(medical ,military, political) during these meetings(think tank data collections) every absurd subject can be reviewed and measured as a spectrum . Feasibility is a key factor to continue to further study. Most of the subject discontinue after first study, few see 2-3 more.

Lets start to digging this claim with feasibility.
RED colors are mine

1) The American military and killing Americans on American soil
This is new only for ground forces. For air and navy it is in practice(they can shot down (airplanes) or sink-down (ship/ boats) any commercial or private vehicles if it is
potentially danger{medical, political, financial(!)}
2) 4-Star General wants to leave the U.S.(even Micheal Jackson did it, He bought house in Toronto and London)
3) No one can predict exactly WHEN BIG EVENTS will begin to occur in the U.S.(this is a global concern)
4) A Million Illegal Aliens crossing southern border, annually (is a 10-11 year plan)
For 300 M population %0.3 unemployment increase if all of them unemployed
5) Complete undermining of USD by end of 2015( I will not even touch on that)USD is a just paper for a long time
6) By 2017 the U.S. will no longer exist !!! Coincides with destruction of USD, and illegal alien invasion – U.S. to merge with Mexico, (Canada – North American Union?)
This is not a defect, it is a solution
7) $8 – 32 Billion of “black ops” “money” was used to re-build the SILK ROAD (the REAL Silk Road, now from London! to Busan, S. Korea) – Only for military, commercial use. Can anyone confirm this?
Most dazzling one. Feasibility,/ aplicablity is the key question on global weather and land movements unpredictability.
8) WTF?!! General says: “NO WAY TO STOP THE N.W.O.” 100,000′s of Mercs (mercenaries) involved – to be used against U.S. Population.
9) Bioweapons in key locations, around U.S. Possible “20 million dead in 3 days”
no escape point , it become pandemic very rapidly. Even late running elites can be transporter
10) All passports (out of U.S.) will be cancelled. worrying about on passport issue on panic situation? :confused:
11) High-level covert op, to create chaos( no need to high level operation on that time even by standards can be creators)
12) By 2017 – is KEY(we have heard year 2000, 2012. every delirium episodes or past due date can create a new date)
13) Silver will be an electronic price-fix, by the CME( common people's insufficient knowledge on metal commodity)
14) “Get out of the U.S.” is recommended( you are too late, it must be done when you were born)

I feel pity for creator of this warning (Not you Bill. You are the just a distributor/reporter.

[Conehead]

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Here's 'V' talking about this (and a lot more) a couple of days later (19 July), in Sheila Zilinski's 'Weekend Vigilante' radio show.

http://blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2014/07/20/weekend-report-the-weekend-vigilante-the-hagmann-hagmann.mp3

His recap of the information he was told by the General begins shortly after 16:05 and lasts till about 24:30.

Very brief summary:


He starts by saying again that the General was very concerned that people must GET OUT OF THE WAY of what's coming.



He emphasizes that holding dollars between now and 2015 is very dangerous.



The US will cease to exist as we know it by 2017, and no later.



He emphasizes:
1) Get out of paper investments.
2) Get out of the US if you can.



What we're currently seeing (MH17, Ukraine, Gaza, with much more to come), are all data points, so to speak. We should take the big picture 'view from space' and not get stuck too closely on individual issues.



It's all DESIGNED to be chaotic, disturbing and confusing. It will not let up. Chaos and confusion are intended.


Thanks for the info Bill.

You have traveled the world interviewing people. You have been fortunate enough to visit ancient sites first hand and to see ancient artifacts first hand. I have not been able to do this myself.

You are a wise and intelligent human being therefore I put a good bit of weight in your opinion regarding the big picture.

At this point in time most of the points are not verifiable to us regular folks. However, the illegal alien exodus seems to be happening at this moment. This people migration with the help of the federal government is strange at best and maybe is the red flag that something is up.

Would you care to weigh in and share your personal thoughts regarding this information.

Thanks

I edited some of my post content out because it contained to many assumptions...

[Conehead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CqwECqxGf4This

This is really old...still makes the hair on my arms stand up...

Love this place!

[Bill Ryan]

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The transcript (posted (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1040) by V on Steve Quayle's site) of the message/warning in post #1:






All right, folks, today is actually Wednesday, July the 16th, 2014, and this is the Guerrilla, reporting to you live. I don’t have any background music to run. I don’t think I need any background music, because, you know, what I am about to tell you is something that is very, very dramatic. It is very serious. Without giving too much information away and sources and things of that sort, I have had a major confirmation by a gentleman who is a Four Star General.

I had a conversation with this source until about like 1 am in the morning last night, and I had to post this audio interview, because as this audio interview was being put together, I was thinking about what to say, you know, as it was actually happening. I was working on this article, the article that I just posted, “The New World Reordered.” It is not my longest article, but there is enough information there that you can begin to see an emerging picture here. It’s very key – it’s very, very important, and this audio that I am giving you guys is also very, very important.

This Four Star General – let me give you a little background about this guy. He is Air Force – he’s actually a real prominent individual within the Air Force. He’s a very elite individual, in the sense that he is one of the few who went from being a Major to a Four Star General within a span of four years. That’s how much of a hot shot this guy is. He is also in charge – or was in charge – of Asymmetrical Warfare. Okay, so they war gamed a lot of things – and if you do not know what asymmetrical warfare is, basically, it is fighting a war in an unconventional way, that it defeats the enemy without firing a shot. That’s asymmetrical warfare, but of course the reality is, shots are always fired.

That being said, this gentleman was called upon because he was going to be the next in line for Joint Chiefs of Staff after Dempsey gets down, and he will be representing the United States Air Force. So they’ve approached him with a FISA contract – it is a contract that is bound for life. The stipulations on the contract are that he, as a commanding officer, should be able to fire and kill – and give the orders to kill – American citizens on American soil. This was something that was so out of the ordinary, so out of left field, that it absolutely shook this gentleman to the core. He would have no part in it, no part in it whatsoever. He in fact went on to say that he angered the people that were sitting around the conference room table – that he was escorted from Langley by two armed guards.

Shortly thereafter, some weird things started occurring – one of which was, they started messing with him. Credit cards that he owned – some of which are companies that he’s had for over 20 years, like American Express per se – would all of a sudden be shut, out of the blue, from nowhere. These are just one of the signs that you know that they are messing with you. So the man is totally freaked out. He goes ahead and puts his house on the market – it’s up for sale right now as we speak. He has cleared what he needed out of his house. His wife is with him, his wife is on board with him, believes in the very things this man stands for and says. He’s only taken – they’ve only taken – their necessities. In other words, that house is for sale; their furniture is still in there. Their belongings – a great deal of their belongings – are still in there. He doesn’t want any – he just wants to get out. He wants to get out of the country, and that’s how he came into contact with one of my contacts, who happened to also work in the intelligence business in covert operations. And through him, he was able to get ahold of me, and this is not 'W' but a totally different guy. This is a covert operational source.

So the General described in detail – and what was given to me was this – and I had to take a notebook out, and I sat there listening, and I sat there listening very somberly, and the more information that he gave to me, the more somber I became, because it began to confirm to me many of the dates that my financial sources have told me, and it also began to corroborate with the dates that W’s intelligence sources have told him.

So here it goes. This is important – this is probably the most important thing I will ever tell you. This is a life-altering event for me, speaking to this man. This is how serious the game is, and whether we are off by six months or what not is not the point. It’s the event – it’s the build-up to the events and how it happens – and to let all the folks know that we are, in fact, reading the tea leaves correctly.

So what the General said was this. This whole illegals that are being dumped in the border – right now it is three hundred thousand, soon to be a million, coming across the border per month. And, folks, I’ve warned you of this in prior reports. This is a longstanding, ten-to-eleven year plan. This is part of a written timetable, and it follows the text.

Number one, complete undermining of the United States Dollar by the end of 2015. Remember when I told you back in December of 2013 that April of 2014 will begin the push off point for the world to start moving away from the dollar? We’ve seen what happened in Ukraine – we’ve seen what happens globally – as the world shifts away from the dollar. We’re seeing this build-up, where nations are coming forward and saying, What is the point of even having the dollar? But members and readers and listeners to this website and followers – they all know this. You guys all know this – I am not going to rehash it – but a complete undermining of the dollar by the end of 2015. That means everything – the whole Russian blowback against Ukraine, which will occur; the BRICS Bank, which has already been signed into deal, a hundred billion, ready to fund. It’s happening very quickly, folks, just as we’ve warned. So the undermining will begin.

Then he went on to say that we will move – by 2017 and no later, the United States will no later exist. And this coincides with the undermining of the US dollar, which will kill and destroy the United States economy. And at which point – with the dumping of these illegals – that’s why the borders remained wide open. They’re going to shotgun merge us with the Mexicans and the Canadians. In other words, the North American Union is back in play. At the end of 2017, it will be announced that we no longer exist as a functional government – in other words, we will probably default on our debt. When that default occurs, you’ll be looking at major economic upheaval. The General also said that press covers and announcements have already been prepared. The cover pages for the media – that are going to be given to the media – have already been prepared.

Now, as the General was laying this out, he also made mention of something very profound, which touches base with this article that’s just been written – and a few other articles – of the Teutonic Silk Road that has been written as well, by me. He said that eight billion dollars, conservatively – figures could be anywhere up to thirty-two billion – but eight billion that he knows of, of black ops money, was utilized to help rebuild the Silk Road. And folks, if you read this article, “The New World Reordered” – I made mention of the South Korean President who spoke in the Uzbek city – which is a vital pathway, a vital point in the Silk Road – and that President said that the Silk Road will stretch from where, folks, from where? From London – ah, there is that city again, that people are writing off as dead – and all the way to Busan, the southernmost port city of South Korea, second largest city in South Korea after Seoul, which will be the exit for the pipeline – so we see this massive road.

Well, the General said that the eight billion dollars will go ahead to create this road, that is made of three-foot super concrete, with one-inch bars and twelve-inch centers. In other words, this concrete is tough as nails. It’s super strong – there is no way you can crumble it or break it. It is incredibly strong, and it will be covered in three feet of structural asphalt – that is, asphalt that is intermingled with fiberglass – so it is going to be very, very strong. There is going to be nothing that is going to break this thing apart – that is what the Silk Road is going to be. And only commercial and military transports and operations will be done on it – only used for military and commercial needs – that’s it, nobody else. And I’ve detailed for you in this article how the Silk Road takes a 42-day sea route and reduces it down to 14 days.

The General said that this de-industrialization project of the United States has begun with Nixon and was accelerated under Clinton; hence, a lot of our trade secrets went over to the Chinese – that’s why we were de-industrialized. The way the breakdown is going to be – the financial control system, as the General puts it, will be the city of London. The religious component of this entire thing will be the Vatican. The military node – that is going to be very key into this whole operational end to it – will be DC, which will be repositioned in Denver, Colorado, and I will get to later why – and the manufacturing/economic engine of the New World Incorporated will be China. Of course, that will come as no surprise. The General also said that we are on schedule, if not slightly ahead.

Now, on to the civilian situation. One of the things that he made known to me was the drone pilot program, and he named a specific drone pilot. This is a young gentleman, who is a rising star – who was a rising star – at Colorado Springs Air Force Academy. The kid is very distraught, because last week he’s killed about 37 civilians abroad, using a Predator. This young gentleman said that he feels worse than Hitler because of what he is doing – killing innocent men, women, and children, who are just civilians – he knows they’re not part of any sort of terrorist organization or what not. You see, when these drone guys target you, they can see you as if you are twenty yards away, so it is very close – so when you do explode, they have a clear view, via satellite uplink, of what happens to a human body when it’s hit with a high explosive round or a munition or a missile, whatever have you. So, he went on to detail the drone programs that are run in the United States that are really dark and really highly compartmentalized.

He says drone pilots do not have contact with one another. They’re not allowed to socialize with one another; they’re not allowed to talk to one another. They sit there; they do their two-man mission, and they are gone. And when they’re dismissed, they are dismissed thirty minutes apart – and they are tailed home by an armed guard to make sure they are going home – and they do not mingle with anybody else. They are always monitored, and they are never alone. That’s serious. The reason is – they are looking for people that can kill others using a drone with no qualms and no problems.

This ties in to the American civilians’ questions on resistance, which is a question that I asked General. I asked him, What about the resistance? What about the sleeping giant, that we always talk about in terms of the American citizen? And the General said – in his own words – “There is no way to stop this.” He said, “The giant is dead. While the giant was sleeping, we had a special op team come by and bleed the giant out and kill him.”

He said most of the people that are buying firearms and playing soldier in a firing range are not emotionally ready for the job – they’re not emotionally ready to kill. They don’t have the emotional training to handle the situation properly; they cannot go up against a tactical team. And the second thing that the General said is they have no idea of the size of force that is coming against them. And he made mention of tens and hundreds of thousands of merks – mercenary groups. That would be Academy, formally know as XE, formally known as Blackwater, G4S, Becto, Halliburton, Kraft International – I mean, you name it – there’s going to be a ton of these guys out there. He said that one of the things people fail to realize is that these weapons systems that are force multipliers will kill – like one weapon system could kill thousands – one drone could kill hundreds, or even thousands, of people – those are force multipliers.

The second thing that the General said is this: when they bring down the United States in 2017 – when this whole thing comes apart – they have, in key locations in the United States, bio weapons placed. And the example that he gave me was this. If you have a 33 oz. can of Folgers coffee, and you take that can of coffee and you have this bio agent in there, and all of a sudden you walk into a busy area – let’s say an overpass in Dallas, Texas, or the George Washington Bridge right here in New York, or something similar to that, where you have a very heavy traffic area – and you just happen to open up that Folgers can. And if the wind outside was about – let’s say about three miles per hour or so – you could have twenty million dead in three days. Twenty million dead in three days. The General went on to say that this type of bio agent will affect the water, the food, and the air. It will take three days to kill, with a near 98 percent kill ratio – and he said that the initial beta tests are on the pneumonic plague and lowgrade pneumonic plague.

Now, this is what divine providence is – what I was talking about. As soon as he said pneumonic plague, I had one of my contacts send me an article – send me an alert – stating that there was a man in Colorado that has contracted the pneumonic plague. In fact, Ken Shortgen, one of the writers over here at Rogue Money, actually wrote an article on it – out of the blue. It’s incredible.

The General went on to say that the weapon signature will not be known. In other words, if there is a lab that chooses to research the virulent agents – what its protein makeup is and how to kill it or even identify it properly – it would be impossible. In other words, the autopsies will be impossible to do. What does that mean, folks? It means complete plausible deniability for the parties involved. The government will have complete plausible deniability.

The other thing the General said is that when this thing happens, they’re going to shut down all passports. All passports will be cancelled. All your airports and shipping ports will be shut down. He said the recent spat of evidence in terms of gun boats – high speed gun boats, that were sighted in Texas, that were sighted right here in New York and in New Jersey and in California, Louisiana, Florida – that they are being operated by special op covert operational teams. Not the ones you see in the black woods in Texas, where you have the Texas State Police riding in – I am not talking about those – these are different boats. The reason for that is this, folks – usually in a collapse situation, people with means will like to hire a skipper, so they can get off land. These boats are there to ensure that anybody that tries to leave will be sent direct to the bottom.

This is a very high level of covert operational activity, and it is designed to create chaos – and that is the thing that this General has talked about – and he is scared, and this man is not scared of anything. But what is coming upon this country, and what they have planned, has so shaken him to core, that he has contacted me to get out, to leave. He is concerned about his children, that still live and work here, and he is concerned about his grandchildren. But apart from that, he wants to get out of the way. And his thing here, folks – he said, it is important to get this information out, because he wants people to get out of the line of fire. This is exactly what W and I spoke about a few months ago, when we said you gotta get out of the way. The 2017 date is key, and we’ve seen in the last few weeks how things are coming apart. Everything we predicted, we talked about – you want to talk about a proven track record – we told you, folks, that the silver price will be electronic. It will be an electronic price fix, and it would be headed by the CME – we told you about this, and now it’s here, just as we said it was.

The times are critical, and this bit of information, and now this General – this guy is just coming out of the blue, sharing with me the information. The time tables and protocols match perfectly what we have been saying. A guy who is a Four Star. Who was up for Joint Chiefs but walked away from it. A guy who was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, which, by the way – another example would be as he said – they would just come and blow your wife and kids away to stop you from fighting. How do you like them apples? That has shaken me to the core.

Look, I am not in the business of scaring the crap out of people at all. I like offering solutions. But take this information – you pray about it, you think upon it, you chew on it, you think it through thoroughly – and you do what you gotta do in the days that are ahead. If you can get out of the country, and I don’t care where the hell you want to go – you don’t have to – I am not telling you to come down to southern Chile and get involved with what we are doing down there. If you can flee to the north, go north. If you can flee to the south, go south. If you can get on a yacht right now with a little rich friend of yours who you know, and you want to sail out to the middle of nowhere, you go ahead and do that. Or if you just disappear off the grid – stay away from heavily populated areas in these heavily populated states – I’d recommend you do that. Things are going to get ugly.

This is why the whole border has completely failed, and why this takedown is occurring right now. So take this information and think it through, and act on it. Do not hesitate. Do not wait.

This is the Guerrilla, over and out.

[Guest]

I can confirm a few of the key points the General and V have put forth. They are not "fear mongering and they are not crazy."

Recently I was at what I thought was going to be a cathartic evening for me of a small intimate social gathering with some good friends of mine. I had just lost my husband to a tragic accident and knew it would be good for me to be around people. Most of us that were there are from common backgrounds including carpenters, artists, a corrections officer, house wife...etc. I've known them for years now and they are aware of a lot of what is going on in the world. We all sat around enjoying the evening, eating dinner and having a deep philosophical and spiritual discussion -as that was the norm for us.

One of my friends, (John) had invited a relative of his (Joe) to the party. Joe didn't have much to say and mostly listened and watched everyone. During the evening he looked relaxed and like he was having a good time, but he also seemed a little weary -had an under-current of stress and sadness. I thought he was being reticent and unassuming because he didn't know anyone there, but I did sense that under-current from him.

Joe turned the conversation to another direction and by the end of the evening found that he had worked for one of the intelligence agencies for years. He said you're all really good people and very aware (his conscience speaking) and I have enjoyed your company. There are a few things I want to share with you all that you need to know.... by the end of all the points he made... it was obvious he was in the intelligence business.

He said:



In the next couple of years the dollar is going to tank -That Russia and China are behind it. They are trying to destroy the US dollar as the super currency.



That they and PTB want to make Canada, Mexico and the US one nation with one currency or a world currency.



During our group discussion we talked about the Middle East. His comment was "yes it is escalating and it will happen in the Middle East."



Get out of the US -nowhere in the US will be safe -even now. Start now -do what you have to do and get out. Remain clear and keep your head.



He said right now -"They" are trying to keep things stable for the people (for the human race) and what "They" are working right now is important for the survival of the human race. Joe did not or would not elaborate on what "They" are doing to keep things stabilized or what they are securing.

Also during the last six months I've had phone conversations with two of Joe's relatives one of them is John. During our talks he's said that him and his other relative are moving -it's just too crowded in California anymore. John is moving to a remote area of the States and living off the grid and his relative is moving out of the country and preparing to live off of the grid. This is all during normal casual conversations. No hype and no conspiracy talk. But all of sudden they are leaving and going to live off grid.


I tend to believe there is some validity to the topic and to what Joe said. Joe's body language and tone of voice was quite serious and his relatives have been preparing to leave the States for the last six months.



Love


Nora

[Amer]

I take these warnings seriously..

On what evidence?

If one were to take this warning seriously, then it would be on foot of doing at least some backround research no?

So this guy Quayle says his source is a currently serving US airforce general, married, with children and grandchildren, who was in charge of asymmetrical warfare who currently has his house up for sale, and who ( by the grace of God, because that would be the only possibility ) made it from Major to General in four years, and who was up for joint chief............. with all this information would it not be possible for even a rookie journalist on their first day on the job to come up with a possible candidate? And would it not be the scoop of the century to track him down?

I mean they only have to choose from NINE people as there are currently only nine serving generals in the airforce- actually no, only EIGHT because General Wolfenbarger is a woman and the general in question is a "he"!

And you know what would probably be the easiest thing to discover? Which of them had their house up for sale! So before I were going to abandon my life as I know it and move off to Chile I might like to check out the validity of the source- no?

And this extremely important individual who is so shaken to the core and wants to get the message out in order to save as many lives as he can ...... where does he go to impart his potentially life-saving message........? Please.


This individual's parting message:


take this information – you pray about it, you think upon it, you chew on it, you think it through thoroughly – and you do what you gotta do in the days that are ahead. If you can get out of the country, and I don’t care where the hell you want to go – you don’t have to – I am not telling you to come down to southern Chile and get involved with what we are doing down there. If you can flee to the north, go north. If you can flee to the south, go south. If you can get on a yacht right now with a little rich friend of yours who you know, and you want to sail out to the middle of nowhere, you go ahead and do that. Or if you just disappear off the grid – stay away from heavily populated areas in these heavily populated states – I’d recommend you do that. Things are going to get ugly.
This is why the whole border has completely failed, and why this takedown is occurring right now. So take this information and think it through, and act on it. Do not hesitate. Do not wait.


Is it just me or is that pure fear porn? And I'm also missing the WHY of it all? This dastardly plan is for exactly what reason?


Another element of this individual's information relates to drone pilots.

Quote:


So, he went on to detail the drone programs that are run in the United States that are really dark and really highly compartmentalized.
He says drone pilots do not have contact with one another. They’re not allowed to socialize with one another; they’re not allowed to talk to one another. They sit there; they do their two-man mission, and they are gone. And when they’re dismissed, they are dismissed thirty minutes apart – and they are tailed home by an armed guard to make sure they are going home – and they do not mingle with anybody else. They are always monitored, and they are never alone. That’s serious. The reason is – they are looking for people that can kill others using a drone with no qualms and no problems. So if predator drone pilots are not allowed to talk to anyone, not even their co-pilots/colleagues, if they are tailed home, monitored and never alone , well then I'm sure they would absolutely never be allowed to do a BBC Radio 4 interview about what it is actually like to be a predator drone pilot- would they?

So just who is Lt. Colonel Bruce Black, retired US air force predator drone pilot who recounts his experiences for all and sundry to hear? And why the hell was his armed guard not making sure that he didn't talk to anyone never mind an entire radio nation???

To listen: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/15/4840114/usaf-mq1-predator-drone-pilot-explains-daily-life


Peace of Mind said it best:


Choose your future wisely, don't let others trick/train your mind to be a frightened slave. Stand for something or continue to fall for anything.

[Mutchie]

Could this story possibly be REAL ? :confused:

[Camilo]

In looking at the state of events all over the world, it sounds like what's being reported by this thread could come to happen at some point and to some extent. There is always a level of truth in this kind of leaks, but we should keep in mind that we're constantly shifting timelines depending on the level of vibration we find ourselves in every moment. Somehow this information reminds me of Benjamin Fulford and his reports.

[Hiram]

On October 3rd 2011, Linda Moulton Howe was contacted by email from someone who claimed he was a time-traveler. Someone from the distant future. I know that Bill Ryan knows these time travelers exist, because he and I once sat down in a restaraunt out in California and discussed them at length. We even looked at some amazing photographs together which I will never forget. He knows of what I speak. Hiya Bill!

Anyway the conversation broached many topics, but one section I think was very applicable to the above information. Read it below and take from it what you will:

Date: October 3, 2011
To: Linda Moulton Howe <earthfiles@earthfiles.com>

“What is critical to understand is that if there
are time travelers, there is a future that they come from.”
“the voice you now read knows a time so far into the future, it is meaningless to say how far it is. What is critical to understand is that if there are time travelers, there is a future that they come from.
let me tell you a story: in a time of greatness among human beings, when there is a focus on natural systems and conflict in the spirit of solo genius pondering, soul pain for longing in a success that drives the mind to madness, sleeplessness in mind's eye wandering thru seeking correctness of the question's definition, organization of concepts, patterns of simplified reduction of process to its simplest elemental absolutes.
understand that we who come after the black have not one tiny clue of you. however human we, you and I, might be, we are not the same ... nor do you have the ability to even understand me ... as i struggle to make any sense of you at all. as much as i try, i do not understand how you live.
in the time i come from, everything is orderly. it is believed to be a class system among my fellows, but practically speaking, it is not so different from your own culture.
but for us, there is the time call'd the black. what happened is not clear ... nothing about the time of the black is clear... even what year it was...what year it is in my time is not clear as it relates to your time ...
we know very very little about what the world was like before the black...
we know very little about you. what is known is this.
a germ got on an airplane ... in 96 hours the world got sick and died ... there were more than 6 billion people on a monday ... by friday the lights went out ... by the third monday people were dying so fast ... most people believed no humans would survive ... by the fifth monday the germ had killed all the humans that it was going to and fewer than 600 million people remained ... the only people that remained were computer nerds, extremely rich, and a rather unique corp of people.
they were faced with one of two options: automate or a neo-stone age. history shows the choice they picked was to massively automate their world.
with the natural outcome being a kind of super culture where data readers run a population of robots that exceed the number of humans by 3-fold during my time... and it seems likely that number will only increase without ever reducing for as long as time moves to the future.
every human being of the world has a number ... my people control the readers ... the readers control the robots... and the robots control the world.”


So just some more information. May you all be blessed by whatever power you believe in.

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[Roisin]

Could this story possibly be REAL ? :confused:

What the General is saying is that every American out there, at this present time, is standing on a precariously wobbly ledge, looking down into an unfathomable and incomprehensible abyss where he’s giving a warning to those who are not already poised for flight to reconsider that because in 2017, the population of the US will be drastically reduced by 98% from bioweapons. He’s saying that now is the time to move out of the country while you still have the cash and the wits about you to be able do that.

As for those other points he brought up, most of them is already happening and has been for many years now. So they would not qualify as “prophecies or predictions” because all he’s doing is giving us his observations about how things already are. Nevertheless, he’s also telling us which way the die is going to roll on some of those observations that should give us a clue as to what’s coming up next on the horizon. The timeline suggests that 2017 is the year when our time is up …. So there you have it.

Most of us already know that one of these days, Rome is going to fall and we’ll be back to living in log cabins again shooting down turkeys with bows and arrows or boomerangs if we manage to learn how to use it. But I surmise that this General is not giving us a prophecy on what’s going to happen in 2017. Instead, he’s giving us the impression that this is information that everybody at the top of the totem pole already knows. So what do we do? Well, obviously, before we go any further on this, we would need to find out who this General is and then, take it from there.

[ramto]

In my view this is part of the dualistic game and shows just one side of the force, the materialistic side. The other side we can not see since we are in the materialistic side anyway. To me it looks like a pyramid where both forces climb up one on eather side and they may meet 2017 and unite??? for all is ONE anyway in the end - which means that the dualistic game is over, as predicted. Or better, it is taken on a higher lever by including all the space forces and become part of a galactic society existing much longer already as we can imagine.
The dualistic game always needs activity from one side to make the other side react or counter act. That brings everything forth to grow and pushes development, movement is life and stagnation is death. The light forces always know first what next is planned by dark forces since they are on higher levels. They are always able to see into lower levels, yet, the lower level individuals can not see into the higher levels, as we know.
So to me it is just getting exiting to see both sides coming closer, we, each one of us needs to include and harmonise that within to get along with the development and rising frequencies day by day.....

[Roisin]

Very intriguing perspective! My own sub-vocalizations on that material reverberated those same sentiments you are conveying here too and it’s an ancient story that’s deeply embedded within the “vastly uncharted ocean of the primordial subconscious mind” (Paul Tillich), of which each and every one of us are all tapped into via our minds, our bodies and our souls.

Another way of representing that “dualistic game” (though I like yours better!) would be the symbol of the arch where each end of it is comprised of an opposing force and at the top of the arch is the all-encompassing MIND. It is those 2 opposing forces that are keeping that arch standing tall, upright and balanced.. and the reason why is because “for every action, there is an equal and opposing reaction”. So as each one climbs up that arch and as the continuum grows shorter and shorter, eventually they reach the top of it and merge with the “universal subconscious mind” or whatever one chooses to call it. The arch disappears as it’s no longer needed because at the moment those forces merge into the Mind, those parts that were once parts of the whole are now ONE with the whole instead.

Your metaphor correlates eloquently with the present times where time seems to be speeding up and major global events seem to be occurring almost on a daily basis, with only a few micro-breaks in between. That continuum between each opposing force is growing shorter and shorter each day that goes by and things are happening and changing at a more accelerating pace than ever before too. Once we reach the apex of the pyramid (or the top of the arch), the world as we know it will come to an end and a whole new reality will present itself to us free of war, pestilence, famine and death --- for all that will remain is pure unadulterated LOVE.

[gripreaper]

This is a pretty devastating outlook.

If we roll back the clock to the mid 30’s and we look at why America was allowed to become the greatest industrial superpower, we may gain some context.

Something happened back then which changed everything. In my opinion, based on all sources of information and collating the most probable scenario, I think it was a combination of a few things. Here’s a timeline of events, not necessarily linear.

I start at Montauk. Messing with space time, they blew a hole in the fabric of time, which caused ripples all throughout the cosmos, and got the attention of many extraterrestrials. As a result of this as well as nuclear detonations, many spacecraft now entered into our ionosphere, and some of them were either shot down or just crashed, and this gave us access to metals and technology we did not have prior.

We back-engineered this technology and came up with all manner of exotic weaponry, craft, and energy. When we detonated the atomic bomb, not knowing all of the implications of what we were doing, we really got the attention of other sentient beings from around the cosmos.

Now, we have this presence, and we have this need to grow up fast and get on par with these entities. So, this is where the United States comes in. Through the Bilderberg agreements and project paperclip, the largest most aggressive and globally co-ordinated underground covert initiative took place, focused in the United States, which researched, engineered, manufactured, and proliferated all manner of technologies to cover all contingencies and possible outcomes, spanning 80 years. The US grew exponentially, with money flowing into everyone’s pockets.

Along with this global initiative, a military industrial complex emerged which gave the globalists complete control of the entire planet, and gave them the capacity to colonialize and imperialize any and all continents for resources for the benefit of this global initiative. This consortium has the ability to capture all information, through the digital grid, store it and collate it, and steer the very consciousness of mankind, through microwave entrainment, to whatever outcome they choose.

If you wish to gain a larger context, you need to view this entire planet as a single corporation run by psychopaths, whose agendas span thousands of years and retain a continuity which can only be maintained through outside influence. Since humans die after 80 to a 100 years, how can any agenda span thousands of years with any degree of continuity? There’s your answer.

So, one really needs to stand back from the canvas of all history, and do the same collating of information that the globalists do, to understand the big picture. We have alien interventions going back thousands of years, DNA manipulating of the indigenous populations, compulsory vamping of resources and energy by these interlopers, and nihilistic and narcissistic reasons for doing so.

Yet, on the other hand, we have human sentience of the soul imbedded in humans which cannot be severed, which has caused consternation and dissent all throughout history, as mankind evolves and those who wish to retain their supposed godlike imperialism over all sentient beings, find it more difficult to do so. Somehow these interlopers have this notion that we are their chimeras because they created us and therefore they have this divine right to rule and make decisions for all mankind. To them, we are nothing but corporate chattel, and their plans for this earth are nothing more than a corporate restructuring of assets and liabilities on their sick balance sheet.

So, they want to reduce the population, which they view as their corporate machinery, because they have basically completed their 80 year global initiative to manufacture the stellar products they needed to deal with the machinations they themselves created back in the 30’s. So, how does a corporation reduce its industrial capacity to better reflect the needs of the corporation, which no longer has the need for such a large manufacturing capacity?

Well, we see the data points showing up everywhere. A little bio disease released here, a little war over there, a little retraction of the amount of commercial paper in the markets, ya know, basically chaos and mayhem mixed in with manipulation of markets and global commerce. This restructures and retools the global corporation to be more centralized and more manageable for the board of directors whose initiatives going forward are more on a maintenance level, rather than full on production.

But keep in mind, they still need their global mercenary bully force, their digital photonics, and their stellar craft and zero point technology. They still need a remnant of maintenance workers to service this machine they own, this corporation we call earth. So, I’m with Catherine Austin Fitts and Joseph Farrell on the big picture view of the possible future outcomes.

I see it as a slow burn, as a structured retooling, not a collapse scenario. I see the reduction in fiat debt instruments entering commerce, which forces savings, these commercial instruments, off the sidelines and into commerce, which wipes out the middle class, who are not willing to give up their pensions they acquired during the proliferation of the military industrial complex, which they built.

I see local skirmishes, engineered bio weapons, and other types of rewriting of the map, in order to reduce the national consolidation of wealth and power, which might otherwise attempt to go against the global corporatocracy. These so called alliances, such as the BRIC, who “think” they can go against the petrodollar and just walk away from the global Bilderberg initiatives, from the massive debt they've taken on with their lines of credit they drew upon for decades, is disinfo in my opinion. The G5 all went bankrupt and agreed to a line of credit in exchange for pledging all their assets. They can't just walk away unless they accidentally want to fall off a 100 story building, accidentally crash in an airplane, or accidentally take 8 shots to the head with a nail gun.

We need to eliminate nations and currencies from our thinking when looking at the big picture context, because all of that is distraction designed to keep the masses under control and to keep the corporate machine functioning during the retooling. If we buy into the initiatives which are being implemented, such as the war skirmishes and the bio weaponry, the cabal are on the ropes and running out of options, then we lose focus on who the real perpetrators are and what we really need to do to get rid of them.

The dollar will be defended to the bitter end, while all other asset classes will be taken out behind the woodshed and severely beaten until all wealth is drained. This will take some time. Too many people around the world are vested in the petrodollar, regardless of what they tell us in the news. They ALL bought into the fiat debt system and they all signed up to the global Bilderberg agreements. All the news we get is just crap, fodder for our entertainment, to keep us distracted.

So, while the global corporatocracy is retooling, it will affect all people on corporate earth. Yes, it is better to not be in a heavily populated area and it is better to be resourceful and as off grid as possible, and yes, some people are going to die, but you don’t have to. You can choose to keep your immune system strong and not eat their crap food and drink their crap water.

Just don’t buy into scattering and running to some place which is supposedly safer. There is no safe haven. Polishing your guns and stocking up on toilet paper wont cut it either. They have bigger guns than you and trained mercenaries who are not afraid to use them. They are sicker than you can possibly imagine.

Safety is in community and sticking together. Plant some tomatoes and talk to your neighbors. Be careful not to get caught in the distractions and the fear mongering. This is a global corporate restructuring and retooling, and it requires a global conscious awakening and a global response. You will be needed where you are.

[skuzzy]

Most of us already know that one of these days, Rome is going to fall and we’ll be back to living in log cabins again shooting down turkeys with bows and arrows or boomerangs if we manage to learn how to use it. But I surmise that this General is not giving us a prophecy on what’s going to happen in 2017. Instead, he’s giving us the impression that this is information that everybody at the top of the totem pole already knows. So what do we do? Well, obviously, before we go any further on this, we would need to find out who this General is and then, take it from there.

ok so i agree with rome going for a ****, and i sincerely hope it does. we also need the city of london to follow close behind, both these groups are evil to the core. you dont think the queen is negative? well, start looking into the "windsor" family and try and prove me wrong. both those groups are a cancer on us all. Your point about log cabins and turkey hunting bugs me. why does it have to be that way? we can 'remove' the sickness and continue on with life without deastating consequences, IF we desire it that way.

your point about finding out who the general is and what branch and his service record and da da da is very important. remember, fear is power to 'them'. i kinda wish i can thumbs down your post bill :( not a personal reason but i feel that kinda of info is terrible to read, i know my heart felt dropped to my toes when reading your summery. but like a few posters have posted, plans like this have been 'leaked' for along time and very few have materialized. are we safe yet? no.

i want to tie this in too, i listen to david wilcock alot lately and his posative attitude is helpful, for me atleast. he said the same thing that these doom and gloom plans are always coming out and they dont happen. he has gotten these plans so many times he refuses to post them for that reason, they generate fear and they dont come 'true'. again, we can NOT sit back and let the drinks flow, yet. we must stay posative.

the other curious thing david mentioned like a week or 2 ago was an answer to a very good question: what is the scientific cause of the increasing levels of vibration currently occurring on and around earth? he goes on for a few mins but what caught my attention was that he said that the reason is our companion star is very near to us and that is the cause of alot of things(interplanetary day after tommorow being a big evidence). very neat i think cause dr.bill deagle said the same thing back in 2010 i think, that the approaching object is a dwarf star(a star that lit and went out early or never lit at all).

what does that matter? well david also went on to say that it is known as the dark star or black sun(reiche of the black sun by joseph p ferrall...hmmm) and that the freemasons are all over this, it represents the capstone returning to the pyramid. just as a note in pyramid numerology, 6 sides means imperfection and 5 means perfection. right now, with out a capstone the great pyramid(and whatever pyramid is on the $1 bill US) is a 6 sided figure. a very interesting thought to say the least, i think.

all i can say is that by 2017 or 2018 or maybe even 2020(****, maybe sooner) our world is going to change and it will no longer be the same. we will not be able to go back to the way things were, which is a good thing. i love to believe that one change will be the end of debt slavery, among others. it can be negative but it can also be a possative change. i pray for the latter. 30 ancient cultures say a golden age, and to me, that doesnt sound bad for all of us.

be safe

[musicadi]

hmmmm...

the mention of year 2017 is highly interesting....

MH17 crash
AH5017 crash
Ebola and the number 17 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2615700/pg1)

....and also this....
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[KeizerPaPa]

I know I'm just new here but I have some info to add to the Guerrilla's message and I need to say first that yes it sounds like a lot of fear mongering.

BUT, I have proof and documentation from the Journal of Virology in doi form that shows they have fused together HIV-1, Ebola, And a type of Stoma Virion much resembling Cancer to create an instant chronic disease with 80 percent fatality with no cure. It was also bread to be resistant and was incubated in antiviral fluids separately before the Virion were fused into a singular disease that spreads like wild fire even from body to body with no contact for up to 20 feet.

I can send the DOI in pdf for anyone who wants to study it. Its in great detail with names of all people involved with citing and reference.

Furthermore on the Guerrilla's Subject I have to disagree with him on there being a CME killshot. But know of plot and design to to fool everyone into thinking there is a CME coming and that when it gets here people will believe iot is the sun but it isn't. It is an Attack on us all and for those of us lucky enough to be underground when it happens will resurface after its all done to the realization that our lands have been occupied by Russian and Chinese soldiers. This wasn't from no coward 4 star General who is hiding his identity and crying about the government shutting down his AMEX either. I was in the Military in a joint operations team and my general told me he stayed to do everything he could to change what was happening with the power of a general because if he quit he'd be powerless to stop anything. Just a guy hiding his ID shooting his mouth with no credibility and afraid to tell his name.
This CME bill is not a CME at all it is artificial and designed to look like A CME but it is an attack designed to take out the electrical infrastructure which on the military end here is completely untouchable by this for of attack. But I'm in Canada and we have been preparing for this for thirty years. The Chinese and The Russian Armies have been building up to this moment since then. They are artificially and very slowly going to build the atmosphere up to a less overall negative charge so that everything will be operating at a higher than normal level so that when they pull the switch it isn't just a power out. It will cause a quintuplet electric overload everywhere, everywhere. Then they will reverse the feed to negative to the extreme and aim it straight above our heads so lighting jumps out of the ground and this may likely and is not being underestimated at all. It could set off the Yellowstone super. The thing is they charge the area just under the crust so that the electricity won't find ground cause it won't be so negative. This causes everything running to accept more charge relatively. Then when the moment is right they reverse the feed and charge by comparison everything in every piece of infrastructure reacts as though its been hit by lightning. The people are being fooled. The governments of both America and Canada have been infiltrated but CSIS caught them early on and put it on the News that China was aggressively trying to get the pipeline over the mountains to the pacific but The military won't let it happen because of national security. The Russians are buying everything they can find. Even The steel mill near by where I did R&D on the New Bradley's. Make no mistake. This is an expected and planned asault on North Amerrica by a Newly formed coalition between the Russians, Germany, China, and the Swiss who had been planning to bankrupt America and carried out covert opps to carry out their greedy ends. The world is not ending but if we do not mobilize and have a complete resistance in place it will bed. Good night. Yes I can prove it. All.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

'V' was contacted, through an intermediary, by a US Air Force 4 Star General.

Allegedly.

This man was in charge of Asymmetric Warfare, and was in line to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Allegedly.

He was asked if he would be prepared to order troops to fire on US citizens on American soil. He refused. He was escorted from Langley under armed guard.

Allegedly.

And so on. I don't see what makes this guy different from the dozens of others who have come along telling us we are all doomed or that saviors from outer space are about to land. "I can't tell you who, but some guy told me some scary stuff. Trust me." Now, the thing to watch is for mileposts along the way. If a million refugees per month begin pouring over the border, then I think this report will deserve a second look.




The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead".


He has obviously never been to Kentucky.

Ha!


The less dependent on a collapsing system the better off we all will be.

Truth. Whether the whole thing collapses or not.

Thanks for reading and I'll wrap with what I always keep saying. Regardless of what happens in your world, the answers are still within you. Not out there somewhere. All these circumstantial things do not change that. You already are all that you will ever need. The rest is just window dressing. Right now, the sun is shining outside my window. I'm going to go for a walk on the beach and listen to some seagulls.

[Snookie]

My question is why this V guy hasn't bugged out himself if he believes all he's saying. He has made several references to living in NEW YORK city for $&@! sake! (This was in the first recording) If doesn't get much more congested than that.

He also mentioned in the second interview - again that this supposed "asemetric warfare" General went from Major to 4 star General in 4 years. It doesn't appear to me that he has done the least amount of vetting to confirm this General is authentic.

Not saying there isn't any truth in what's being said, just that most of it is fear mongering.

[Snookie]

I tried listening to the second interview, and just couldn't finish it. I just don't like being preached AT, and told I have to get right with God. Been there, done that, got the T shirt!

[lizfrench]

Remember the bully on the playground who had his minions go out and tell all the other kids to watch out. That is what fear mongering has become, it feels like a lot of "controlled opposition" in order to make us all afraid so we will be sure and manifest everything scary that is being predicted. Don't get me wrong, I am awake and aware of the evil that exists, but just like the bully, they (cabal, illuminati, etc) are counting on us fearing them and manifesting a full blown apocalypse. There are those who we may think are on our side, but in fact are playing along with the opposition, hence "controlled opposition" and disinformation. My 2 cents

[birddog]

I believe a lot of truths have been shared, but there is still something missing. There is an alien component depending on us for survival. They are dying, have lost their digestive system, their reproductive systems, and are desperate, trying to live. Our blood carries oxygen and nutrients that can buy them time. They can use the blood of the newly dead or the donations from the living to survive, without any loss of life.

Knowing this, why would they want so many killed? This doesn't make sense to me. I don't believe that they do.

Now, let me say that there are other, good and kind aliens about, and nearby, who are far more advanced, and who represent different worlds, and they do not like what is happening here.

But the crux of the matter is, although we were warned not to deal with the aliens causing problems, ( one of our leaders from many years ago)....that leader chose technology over people...probably out of fear for
himself. That is what Paul Harvey would have said is the rest of the story....but there is still more.

There may be aliens more coming our way, and we may be in a true war one of these days. We need to stop fighting among ourselves with the rest of the world and man-up, realizing that there is a greater threat. So stock up, learn survival
techniques, and pray. There is help, but we have to do our part too. ( Because they were invited in by one of our own.) Be ready for any scenario, but, as in 2012, you may never see any of these in your lifetimes. Hopefully, it will be settled peaceably.

I stated once before ( I believe ) that we are in more danger from people that aliens. It is humans who are killing humans, and without their help, the aliens could not be any threat to us, even though these aliens are more advance than us.
The good aliens are far more advanced then them.

[birddog]

''The real question would be, what are the best places to go?"....BlueMuffin, I was told that Alaska would be one of the safest places. I guess there are plenty of places to hide there, and the people can live off the land.

[TargeT]

''The real question would be, what are the best places to go?"....BlueMuffin, I was told that Alaska would be one of the safest places. I guess there are plenty of places to hide there, and the people can live off the land.

I just moved from alaska after 13 years....

its a VERY harsh environment, not one you would want to be in during troubled times.

I'm on an island near the equator now... 365 growing season is very important to me.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

''The real question would be, what are the best places to go?"....BlueMuffin, I was told that Alaska would be one of the safest places. I guess there are plenty of places to hide there, and the people can live off the land.

I just moved from alaska after 13 years....

its a VERY harsh environment, not one you would want to be in during troubled times.

I'm on an island near the equator now... 365 growing season is very important to me.

A 365 growing season should be important to everyone, either in a warm environment or possibly in a greenhouse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKlXs8iov0#t=12).

Sometimes I wonder what people will do as the dollar collapses, food riots become widespread, the U.S.A. becomes a third world country, no credit cards and no jobs. Perhaps they will experience an end to the programming by mainstream news and TV.

The survivors will be experienced gardeners, or have a very close relationship with at least one.

Almost everyone has room for a Square Foot Garden (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=3687). No power tools needed.

[birddog]

It is also not one that the aliens or humans would take the time to visit, much less try to find someone in either. I agree with you, Ron, but this information was given to me by someone that has full knowledge of both perps, alien and human.
So, it might be a good place to hide, if someone was looking to do so, as one can get lost easily. Evidently, these aliens don't
like cold weather.

[Jules]

Is it possible to stay in the US and live? Who can say? I keep seeing the words sovereignty and synchronicity, it is a tool, yet I don't know how. I have no problem with traveling, yet I want to avoid fear because no matter where I go, the agenda has been planned for the entire earth, not just the US, so should I stay or should I go? At this point, it seems if there is an agenda against the US, and then the world is next. This is a tactic to create fear through the world, so most others give in to this alleged NWO amid chaos.

I find it interesting how the entire world looked at 911, and I'm thinking, why is there so much media on it? Why would another country care so much what happened? Of course the media played it over continuously, and I don't even watch the news if I can help it. Because I was at work, and they decided to put TVs around showing the scene almost nonstop, I was forced to view it. My only reply to it was that it looks very surreal; little did I know that it was; it was a staged illusion with real casualties. I think being aware of the agenda is important, so one can look at parts of the game, a game taken over by psychotics to contend with.

I think my first priority is my spiritual well being, to look within, not at external fear shoved at me. I want to treat people well, myself well, and if divine will or intuition resonates, then I will follow that. In fact, we all die as far as I know, so why not live the best for now. If there is something I can do to change the treachery on the US citizens, let me know, and I'll do it. No matter what magic spells the misguided used, it is a temporary fix to a big problem, in the big picture, they don't change their karma or judgment, whatever they think. You either face your misdeeds honestly, you make amends, or you don't; either way, well you have to learn, it doesn't go away. You are the star in your reality matrix. I am human and don't know all the answers right now, but am open to discuss solutions.

A few people state that I chose to be here, and I think I'm crazy to choose to be here at this time, when I might choose another time or place that is much more beautiful and spiritual. Here, we are attacked on every level: wars, religion, food, water, air, media and even things we don't even see (mainly hidden), so why would I choose to be here at all? There must be something to come of it, otherwise I would not be here now. Here we read about the doom and gloom, the revelations, yet what is the reason we are here at all. Being here at this time, I get to see it, after all of man's existence I may get to see something and understand something I may not have at some any other time in history. That's my say. By the way, disaster isn't enough to destroy people in US, because a lot of people help each other in crisis (not all). So the Bioweapons seems to be an attempt to really mess with humanity, and obviously the key ones doing it would know about it and be out of harm's way (cowards), or if they aren't human (literally) and would not be affected by Bioweapons. I could be wrong... No matter where you are, help each other, look spiritually within for answers. Find what is truth to you, even if you have to keep looking for it.

See you later in another time, space, and dimension of peace, love, and abundance not highjacked by psychotics in the twilight zone. ;)

[Meggings]

Do you not see that such "information" is given to ENGENDER FEAR in people? Phrases such as, "The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead." are calculated to create hopelessness in people. This is a not-so-subtle method used by the so-called controllers to bring more people down in frequency to their planned time lines. Do not pay attention to such reports. Keep your vibration high, confident that you and your loved ones are choosing the higher time lines.

[TargeT]

Do you not see that such "information" is given to ENGENDER FEAR in people? Phrases such as, "The General said: "There's no way to stop this. The resistance is already dead." are calculated to create hopelessness in people. This is a not-so-subtle method used by the so-called controllers to bring more people down in frequency to their planned time lines. Do not pay attention to such reports. Keep your vibration high, confident that you and your loved ones are choosing the higher time lines.

well you have to realize the origin of this "general" (if this is all valid, of course...) he would be in the very circles that absolutely BELIEVE that resistance is futile because in the military industrial complex your ego becomes so large you can't even understand the LACK of power all those guns and soldiers have.... Look at Vietnam, which military general saw that comming? We got TROUNCED by villagers, how about Afghanistan? Again, we were afraid to leave our bases and even then were severely pressed.


I see the reduction in fiat debt instruments entering commerce, which forces savings, these commercial instruments, off the sidelines and into commerce, which wipes out the middle class, who are not willing to give up their pensions they acquired during the proliferation of the military industrial complex, which they built.

I think cryptocurrency will turn the tide on this, and faster than can be imagined. I see this as THE ONLY real weapon being wielded against us right now


The dollar will be defended to the bitter end, while all other asset classes will be taken out behind the woodshed and severely beaten until all wealth is drained. This will take some time. Too many people around the world are vested in the petrodollar, regardless of what they tell us in the news. They ALL bought into the fiat debt system and they all signed up to the global Bilderberg agreements. All the news we get is just crap, fodder for our entertainment, to keep us distracted.

This is probably true but again the arrogance of it is where the fault lies. When people "opt out" of the "system" (via crypto currency, community works and self-education / self or community reliance) the whole game will fall on its face. This entire system is dependent on our agreement to continue with it... things will get bad and people will just quit "playing ball" especially with robotics and distributed power/manufacturing coming online at a to-fast-to-control pace.

Things getting bad will only force the emergence of these items to proceed faster.


The slow retooling will be too slow and fall on its face; that paired with a predicted date of Singularity in 2039 or so (possibly sooner) will completely change the game.

I think "their time" is over and they are just too arrogant to recognize it.

[quiltinggrandma]

yes,i am scared by this

[quiltinggrandma]

thank you meggings,hope and love will prevail!!

[ndroock1]

Bill, You disappoint me, again. If a source quotes one unnamed source, and the information can't be confirmed independently, then the info simply is not true. You have been there before. Stop this, "must listen" crap. You have been conned too often. Would like to see the good old Bill Ryan again.

[zakkyD1302]

Haha damnet my plan was to get on my boat and sail south looks like I'm gunna be running through the jungle now lol

[TargeT]

Haha damnet my plan was to get on my boat and sail south looks like I'm gunna be running through the jungle now lol

Come south! the islands are a great place to be in times like this!

I've got room for tents, or more permanent structures if you choose to build them.