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blake
20th July 2014, 17:57
Hello All,
There are so many opinions of how to cure cancer. So many sharings of what people have read about how to cure cancer.
If you had cancer, and are now in remission, or consider yourself cancer free now, please share what type of cancer you had, what stage it was, and what protocols you choose, including life style changes, that helped your body become cancer free. Whether you did chemo ,or just did it with diet, please share.
I think people who actually lived through the expereince and became cancer free are the best resource of what works , and for whom it works, and what doesn't work. And if you could share the finances involved in your healing that would be helpful too.
What I do know is that there are spontanous remissions with cancer, regardless of the treatment or no treatment. I know there are books written about how someone cured their cancer. But I often ponder if it is just the people who lived and had a spontanous remission who are writing these books saying they healed themself of cancer form a specific treatment, or did they really become cancer free, not form their treatments of choice but by the luck of spontaneous remission.
I have found the older I get the more people I know with cancer. You would think it would just be older people over fifty, and yet recently a young mother I know was diagnosed with thyroid cancer.
I have watched people do chemo. I have watched people do alternative. I have heard a lots of claims over the internet and in books, but in real life I have seen little of the claims made by the alternatvive health community backed up.
Since no one I know have cured themselves of cancer and many have died, I would be appreciative if those who have had cancer and have become cancer free can share the details of their protocols.
shadowstalker
20th July 2014, 18:03
Cancer free as of Feb. next year. that will make 20 years. Hodgekins disease stage 2 (I was 27.)
I had radiation treatments (full torso, both sides, back and front) 3 months. apparently is was suppose to be for 6 months
Along with healing stones. don't remember which ones, some stranger showed up out of no where and just gave them to me.
Dream healing. every night after the first month
Prayers. from everyone who new I had it.
Became more spiritual, not religious,but spiritual.
blake
20th July 2014, 18:34
Thnak you, shadowstalker for sharing. And continued good health to you.
Elainie
20th July 2014, 18:39
I had DCIS- that is ductal carcinoma in situ of both breasts. I did not allow a biopsy so I have zero clue as to how far and how bad it was. They wanted to remove both breasts and then go from there. That was 8 years ago. I was already a raw vegan back then but had to get very strict and I went the Hippocrates route along with a full dental detox (the root of the issue) as well as heavy metal detox of my body, I used a lot of other therapies too such as pulsed magnetic, FIR saunas, Hamer medicine for my mind, constellations therapy, shamanic work, did a 3 week green juice only fast at the start, colonics, coffee enemas, certain herbs (blood root was one) etc; it took 3.5 months to fully clear up from the start of the diagnosis and I continued on a strict healing regime for several years.
cursichella1
20th July 2014, 19:01
I had a stage III Wilms (kidney) Tumor when I was 7. My doctor told my parents that I had a month to live. Fortunately, my doctor was able to try an experimental chemo drug (dactinomycin)after they removed my kidney. Chemo and radiation went on for 3 years. Two months in the hospital, one month out, then back again for two weeks every 30 days. Decades later, I can still taste and smell the Dactinomycin as it passed through the I.V. It was revolting. I couldn't keep any food down, ever.
My mom was there every single day, all day long. (I don't know how she did it.) She convinced my doctor to allow her to bring in food that I liked: peanut butter sandwiches, hamburgers, sausage, sausage pizza...and vitamins, too. (This was unheard of in those days.)
I lived for my mom's visits, played "nurse" and fantasized about my mom's cooking. I hate to sound like a chemo/radiation proponent - there were no other options in those days. That, my mother, the thought of real food, prayers from friends and relatives...and hating the hospital so much, had much to do with my cure. But there was something else going on, too.
My mom, at 79, had stage III pancreatic cancer. She was treated at UCLA. They removed a lot (Whipple procedure) and she endured chemo and radiation. 4 years later, she is still cancer-free. Was it the chemo-radiation that saved her...would alternatives have worked as well? Is it just her, so strong in spirit, that pulled us both through?
I wish I knew that answer! It seems as if may be a case of going full guns, doing whatever it takes.
blake
20th July 2014, 19:39
I had DCIS- that is ductal carcinoma in situ of both breasts. I did not allow a biopsy so I have zero clue as to how far and how bad it was. They wanted to remove both breasts and then go from there. That was 8 years ago. I was already a raw vegan back then but had to get very strict and I went the Hippocrates route along with a full dental detox (the root of the issue) as well as heavy metal detox of my body, I used a lot of other therapies too such as pulsed magnetic, FIR saunas, Hamer medicine for my mind, constellations therapy, shamanic work, did a 3 week green juice only fast at the start, colonics, coffee enemas, certain herbs (blood root was one) etc; it took 3.5 months to fully clear up from the start of the diagnosis and I continued on a strict healing regime for several years.
Hi, Thanks for sharing. I had heard that dental work especially getting rid of the root canals actually helped people wih breasr cancer, or any cancer that was in the upper part of the body. I agree that going the route of first doing no harm is a good starting point that may bring you successfully to the finish line quickly as it appears it did for you. Three and a half months to being cancer free is amazing. May ask if you planned out this protocol yourself or if you sat down with anyone to plan the route you took.
Obviously you quickly addressed detoxiing your body with the dental detox, collonics, heavy metal detox and infra red saunsas.
Was it expensive to do all that? And what method of hevy metal detox did you choose? DId you do the collonics, sauna weekly? For how long? I hear coffee enemas are excellent for detoxing the liver so it can more easily process the toxins out of your body as the body eliminates the cancer and other pathogens.
Green smoothies for the first three weeks? Can you share what was in the smoothies? I hear fasting especially on smoothies is an excellent way to allow the body to focus on ridding the body of pathogens/
How did you decide on which herbs to use. I am nt familiar with blood root. Is it a blood purifier?
It also seems, besides detoxing and building energy into your body and eating cautiosly, you also did a lot of work with the mind and emotions.
Did you do this all on your own or did you have a therapist?
Congratuations for being cancer free and to your continued good health.
one more thing, Pulse magnetics. Was that a pad that you slept on? How long did you do it for, and what was the expense?
What would you advice someone just diagnosed with cancer?
Daphne
20th July 2014, 19:44
I was diagnosed with diffuse large B cell non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in August of 2012. It was a 7cm tumor filling the entire top of my tibia. I had actually played tennis a few weeks before I was diagnosed and had broken the tibial plateau and ignored the pain only to find I had been walking on a broken leg after my diagnosis.
I had 6 rounds of R-CHOP chemotherapy and radiation. It was stage 1 at diagnosis, and after my 2nd PET scan it looked like it had spread to my other leg, but was too small to biopsy. I went on to do 17 radiation treatments as well.
When they told me that my stage 1 cancer was probably stage 4 due to spots on my other leg, I took e advice of a dear friend who had cured her dog of cancer with cannabis oil. I began growing and using it (legal in my state).
After my next PET scan my oncologist read the results saying that my scan was seared into his brain because it was so amazing that all evidence of spread was completely gone!
The cannabis oil also,treats my high BP and a hyperthyroid disorder that was diagnosed during my cancer experience.
blake
20th July 2014, 20:02
I had a stage III Wilms (kidney) Tumor when I was 7. My doctor told my parents that I had a month to live. Fortunately, my doctor was able to try an experimental chemo drug (dactinomycin)after they removed my kidney. Chemo and radiation went on for 3 years. Two months in the hospital, one month out, then back again for two weeks every 30 days. Decades later, I can still taste and smell the Dactinomycin as it passed through the I.V. It was revolting. I couldn't keep any food down, ever.
My mom was there every single day, all day long. (I don't know how she did it.) She convinced my doctor to allow her to bring in food that I liked: peanut butter sandwiches, hamburgers, sausage, sausage pizza...and vitamins, too. (This was unheard of in those days.)
I lived for my mom's visits, played "nurse" and fantasized about my mom's cooking. I hate to sound like a chemo/radiation proponent - there were no other options in those days. That, my mother, the thought of real food, prayers from friends and relatives...and hating the hospital so much, had much to do with my cure. But there was something else going on, too.
My mom, at 79, had stage III pancreatic cancer. She was treated at UCLA. They removed a lot (Whipple procedure) and she endured chemo and radiation. 4 years later, she is still cancer-free. Was it the chemo-radiation that saved her...would alternatives have worked as well? Is it just her, so strong in spirit, that pulled us both through?
I wish I knew that answer! It seems as if may be a case of going full guns, doing whatever it takes.
What an amazing story,cursichella1. I think, people need to hear, that as horrible chemo is, sometimes it is the only option is you want to live. Some people are blessed with having time to cure their bodies. Some people like a seven- year- old child with a tumor on the kidney, and given one month to live needs chemo immediatly. And congrats to your parents for making that happen for you so that you had a life to live and contribute to the earths playing field. I think its great your mom brought you pizza and sauage. I am wondering if back then they had gmo, maybe pizza and sauages were healthier back then!!! Although chemo and radiation for three years must have been tortous for you and your parents. But you lived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what is the something else that was going on that heled you live do you think? Other than having a doctor try an expereimental drug/ Do they still use that drug today? And so amzing that your Mom at age 79 survived pancreative cancer by having surgury, radition and chemo.
I don't think anyone has the answer. But I think the more we share our expereinces the more data we will have to draw on, if needed.
Continued good health to you and your Mom
Now since you had that experience as a child, would you now look at gentler options for others if they had time to heal.
Do you eat, what people consider healthier now. Or have you mainained your pizza, sauage and cookie appetite fo rthe most part?
blake
20th July 2014, 20:11
I was diagnosed with diffuse large B cell non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in August of 2012. It was a 7cm tumor filling the entire top of my tibia. I had actually played tennis a few weeks before I was diagnosed and had broken the tibial plateau and ignored the pain only to find I had been walking on a broken leg after my diagnosis.
I had 6 rounds of R-CHOP chemotherapy and radiation. It was stage 1 at diagnosis, and after my 2nd PET scan it looked like it had spread to my other leg, but was too small to biopsy. I went on to do 17 radiation treatments as well.
When they told me that my stage 1 cancer was probably stage 4 due to spots on my other leg, I took e advice of a dear friend who had cured her dog of cancer with cannabis oil. I began growing and using it (legal in my state).
After my next PET scan my oncologist read the results saying that my scan was seared into his brain because it was so amazing that all evidence of spread was completely gone!
The cannabis oil also,treats my high BP and a hyperthyroid disorder that was diagnosed during my cancer experience.
Daphne, that is incredible. I have heard a lot about canabis oil healing late stage cancers.
Can you share what strains you use. How did you get the marijuna. Did you oriinally buy it befor eyou grew it. I can imagine it takes a long time to grow cannibis.
How long did you take the cannabis before the scans showed you cancer free. I read about the Rick Simpion Oil and his 60 day treatment with the oil of the size of a piece of rice a day. Were you a user before? How did your body repond to it. Did it make you sleep all day?
Congratultions to being cancer free and to your continued good health
Daphne
20th July 2014, 20:49
I was diagnosed with diffuse large B cell non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in August of 2012. It was a 7cm tumor filling the entire top of my tibia. I had actually played tennis a few weeks before I was diagnosed and had broken the tibial plateau and ignored the pain only to find I had been walking on a broken leg after my diagnosis.
I had 6 rounds of R-CHOP chemotherapy and radiation. It was stage 1 at diagnosis, and after my 2nd PET scan it looked like it had spread to my other leg, but was too small to biopsy. I went on to do 17 radiation treatments as well.
When they told me that my stage 1 cancer was probably stage 4 due to spots on my other leg, I took e advice of a dear friend who had cured her dog of cancer with cannabis oil. I began growing and using it (legal in my state).
After my next PET scan my oncologist read the results saying that my scan was seared into his brain because it was so amazing that all evidence of spread was completely gone!
The cannabis oil also,treats my high BP and a hyperthyroid disorder that was diagnosed during my cancer experience.
Daphne, that is incredible. I have heard a lot about canabis oil healing late stage cancers.
Can you share what strains you use. How did you get the marijuna. Did you oriinally buy it befor eyou grew it. I can imagine it takes a long time to grow cannibis.
How long did you take the cannabis before the scans showed you cancer free. I read about the Rick Simpion Oil and his 60 day treatment with the oil of the size of a piece of rice a day. Were you a user before? How did your body repond to it. Did it make you sleep all day?
Congratultions to being cancer free and to your continued good health
Hi Blake, I used indica strains like northern lights! or kosher kush etc. at first I obtained it from a friend, and started growing in January of 2013 as soon as I had my doctors letter. It tales about 3-4 months for a grow from start to finish, and it's quite expensive to get all the supplies, as well as the electric bill. Still, I love growing and can't wait for full legalization so I can safely grow outdoors.
In my case it took about 3 months of daily consumption before the scan showed I was healed. I love that Rick Simpson spread the word, but I don't like the Naptha solvent that he uses so I use grain alcohol 190 proof which works well for me. I did his dosage protocol starting with a drop w size of 1/2 a grain of rice, and working up to taking 3/4 of a gram a day (he says work up to a whole gram, but I didn't have quite enough to do that. Still, it did the trick.
The first time I took the oil I took a drop the size on a whole grain of rice and I felt the psychoactive effects very strongly. But you get used to it mostly. There is a supplement called citicoline that people say keeps you from getting high, but is never used it. I do know people who have used it successfully. My body loves it though! I sleep very, very well now. I had insomnia before.
I feel that this plant is a supplement, rather than anything harmful, there is so much to,learn about it. And I love it!! Did you know a doctor in the mid 1800s used cannabis oil to cure diseases such as rabies, cholera and tetanus?
http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap2B/Shaughnessy/Shaughnessy.htm
http://www.marijuana-as-medicine.org/Alliance/facts.html
http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000026
Thanks for asking all those great questions Blake. Feel free to ask anything else you'd like to know.
blake
20th July 2014, 21:54
Daphne, not that I am an expert on cannibis, far from it, but I has read the indica strains just made you sleepy, and didn;t give you the high that the stavia strains did. So I guess that is not exactly correct since you expereinced a high.
What did you have to buy to grow the plants? I would imagine lights. DId you use regular grow lights that you would use to grow veggies indoor?
I hear the oil tastes terrible. Did you take it plain or did you put it in a smoothie or almond butter sandwich?
I know this is just conjecture. But if someone had your condition, would you recommend chemo and radiaton first or would you suggest to them to try the oil first to see if they get results from that before trying chemo?
Is the medical cannibis expensive to buy? Is that why you grew it yourself?
How much did it cost to make the 90 day treatment of the cannibis oil?
Have you tried juicing the plant?
Daphne
20th July 2014, 23:28
Daphne, not that I am an expert on cannibis, far from it, but I has read the indica strains just made you sleepy, and didn;t give you the high that the stavia strains did. So I guess that is not exactly correct since you expereinced a high.
What did you have to buy to grow the plants? I would imagine lights. DId you use regular grow lights that you would use to grow veggies indoor?
I hear the oil tastes terrible. Did you take it plain or did you put it in a smoothie or almond butter sandwich?
I know this is just conjecture. But if someone had your condition, would you recommend chemo and radiaton first or would you suggest to them to try the oil first to see if they get results from that before trying chemo?
Is the medical cannibis expensive to buy? Is that why you grew it yourself?
How much did it cost to make the 90 day treatment of the cannibis oil?
Have you tried juicing the plant?
Hi Blake, when you have cancer you want to be sleepy, so that's why the indica strains are used. They definitely get one high- just not the up, active paranoid type.
I ought a grow tent $300 cheap, light, hood, ballast - $400 decent, air conditioners, dehumidifiers, dirt, seeds, then hydro equipment, nutrients. All expensive. Kind of becomes an expensive hobby.
It's a difficult decision to generalize about. Everyone is different, but I have read testimonial after testimonial from people with all stages of multiple kinds of cancer - even those within days of death and in hospice who have returned to health with the oil. I think if I had known what I know now and knew I could get a sufficient supply, and had support and finances to do it that I would not have done chemo or radiation. I was beyond terrified, traumatized and paralyzed by my emotional state, so I went the traditional route all the while planning to do cannabis once I was able to walk again so I could grow it myself. I was non weight bearing for 4 months and then had physical therapy so it took awhile. Facebook has lots of groups on cannabis oil with lots of knowledgable caring people willing to take the time to help.
It is expensive to buy. Prices have come down around here because we now have a medical law. They vary a lot, so for us anywhere from 350 last year to 270 last week. I had a bad harvest and had to buy some.
I grow both because of the cost- though I think that is pretty close to even- but more so for the certainty that it is high quality seed and organic, no pesticides. Spider mites can be a huge issue in growing. And lots of commercial growers spray the crap out of their plants. Who would know? In dispensaries that is different if the state cares about quality.
It takes about a pound of cannabis to make the entire cancer treatment. Prices can vary. I have spent lots of money- but still less than traditional doctor treatment would cost without insurance. I would get a shot the day after each of my 6 chemo treatments that was to help my body produce white blood cells to fight infection- it's called neulasta. Each shot cost$7,500 . Each round of nausea pills cost $500. Each round of the monoclonal antibody chemo Rituxan costs $5,000. The cannabis costs about $3,000 a pound generally. Not too bad.
cursichella1
21st July 2014, 01:42
What an amazing story,cursichella1. I think, people need to hear, that as horrible chemo is, sometimes it is the only option is you want to live. Some people are blessed with having time to cure their bodies. Some people like a seven- year- old child with a tumor on the kidney, and given one month to live needs chemo immediatly. And congrats to your parents for making that happen for you so that you had a life to live and contribute to the earths playing field. I think its great your mom brought you pizza and sauage. I am wondering if back then they had gmo, maybe pizza and sauages were healthier back then!!! Although chemo and radiation for three years must have been tortous for you and your parents. But you lived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what is the something else that was going on that heled you live do you think? Other than having a doctor try an expereimental drug/ Do they still use that drug today? And so amzing that your Mom at age 79 survived pancreative cancer by having surgury, radition and chemo.
I don't think anyone has the answer. But I think the more we share our expereinces the more data we will have to draw on, if needed.
Continued good health to you and your Mom
Now since you had that experience as a child, would you now look at gentler options for others if they had time to heal.
Do you eat, what people consider healthier now. Or have you mainained your pizza, sauage and cookie appetite fo rthe most part?
Hi Blake, thank you and thanks for the good questions, too.
Before I forget to mention it, the biggest help for me in helping my mom through her cancer was the http://www.acor.org/ (Association of Cancer Online Resources) LISTserv mailing list/newsgroup. When my mom was diagnosed, I was LOST as far as knowing how to help her. ACOR has over a hundred groups for specific types of cancers and even more sub-groups. The list users are all either the person with cancer and/or they are a family member/care giver. Speaking of support...they were incredible and I recommend them to anyone that finds themselves confronted with cancer whether their own or a that of a loved one.
Every alternative treatment imaginable is discussed, legal and not, wholly medical or alternative or combos of both. Alkaline water. Broccoli. Pot. What's worked, what hasn't worked for them. Personal experiences with side effects, symptoms. Experimental drug trials worldwide, doctors, personal difficulties, suggestions. Everyone helping each other. One can search through the archives, too. It is truly an amazing resource and I wish it'd been available for my mom when I had it.
At that time (anytime prior to the 80s, probably), not much attention was paid to the psychological effects on a kid with cancer (or their siblings) and the psychological number it can do on family members. I managed ok - I had tremendous, what seemed like embarrassing amounts of support - loved my doctor, staff - had an entire Catholic School, nuns and Parish praying for me - and my friends, relatives and parents. I didn't realize how seriously bad things were, and guess I thought the surgery was the 'serious, dangerous' part of my treatment, so didn't really understand the outpouring that continued for the years following that. I knew I had a tumor but didn't put tumor=cancer together, thought everyone was 'overreacting'...lol
What I regret is the number it did on my older sister. Sibling separation is traumatic. She wasn't allowed to visit me. I think twice they let her ride up in the elevator and wave to me from 50 yards away (and THAT was a BIG DEAL then, took major planning!). I think she felt ignored/had little emotional support for the effect my illness was having on her (stuff she says was like, hate/jealousy because of the attention I rec'd, then guilt for hating me...).
So really critical to wholeistically care for all involved. (Like, it never occurred to anyone that giving me a wig to wear might be a great thing. Or somehow involving my sister in my care/treatment and making her feel good about what SHE was doing. How, whether 7 or 79, one needs to be treated as if they are part of the solution, and still have choices and control.)
The drug I was given was called Actinomycin-D then, now it's called Dactinomycin and it is still used, though in combination with another. Wilms is more commonly found in boys, and usually a little bit younger than I was, too. My mom (later) told me later that a few boys with the same diagnosis had passed away while I was at the hospital. I don't know if they were given the trial drug or not. I have a feeling they weren't, and I think I may have been given preferential treatment because my father was "famous", which makes me grateful yet very, very sad for those boys and their families.
I don't know if they had GMO foods then, but my mom never did go for tv dinner/frozen pizza/hamburger helper or stuff like that. She made (still does!) everything from scratch...sausage, bread, croissants, jams, yogurt, tortillas, pasta, so the foods I would fantasize about were foods that I knew from home.
Growing up, I think the 'raciest' processed food we ate was Fritos...lol Lots of red meat, prime rib, filets, flank, butter, cottage cheese, eggs.... Crazy, right? I drank a lot of whole milk as a kid, still do. We weren't ever allowed cokes, koolaid, twinkies, stuff like that, either.
So no surprise that I went into the restaurant business and married a Chef... Homecured prosciutto, pancetta; homemade mozzarella...rofl. To this day, if the refrigerator isn't stocked with certain things, I become really, really nervous! Milk, butter, bread, BACON, ice cream...lolol. And I've have never had a weight problem, either. Maybe because it's more important to have food around than to actually eat it?!
My kids have been raised on similar foods, avoiding GMO and non-organics whenever feasible. I have a large garden, chickens and live in an area where organic everything is pretty available...GMO/pesticides/antibiotics...yuk, but I'm not a maniac about it. And I hate that we have to be dependent on Pharmaceutical criminals for our cures.
For me, focusing on the bigger problems, 'outing' those that allow crappy food to be sold in the first place, those that keep cures from us while allowing gouging for others, those that allow invasive frequencies to bombard everyone-And the rest of the lousy things that absolutely cause stress peoples lives. is a much more productive use of my energies and where one can make things change. That's one way of making the world heathier overall for my immediate and world family.
Here's what I think. The word CANCER reminds me of a creepy symbol one may associate with, say, a picture an all-seeing eye "hidden in plain sight". If we are consciously aware of that and what it is and ISN'T, it can't have a subconscious effect on us and we can more or less own the situation. At the time, I didn't know I had cancer, just believed I had a tumor and they took it out, and I had to follow up with nasty chemo & rad so it'd stay gone. I was pissed off that my favorite foods were being withheld, that I was bald and throwing up constantly. I had positive support throughout. My mom, on the other hand, knew she had metasticized pancreatic cancer and that it was very bad (her doc told us 3 months) . But she wasn't done yet with her life here. She kind of refused it or defied it, even. Like, "wtf? Seriously. How dare you throw this at me now." She looked at the cancer as a pain in the culo, a LARGE INCONVIENCE that would take her away from stuff she wanted to do. She just wanted to get it over with and get on! We're both pretty cynical with relatively dry senses of humor. That helped us both a lot, I think.
Those scenarios are what worked for us...and how I continue working it, I suppose. Sorry so lengthy, but you never know what might be the thing that helps one to connect. It may even be 'bacon'?!*
blake
21st July 2014, 13:21
Hello cursichella1,
Wow, you own a restaurant and are married to a chef! What a gift to your community. I personally think, that other than the farmers, who grow our food, one of the top ten most important jobs are those who cook well. From the parents getting the meals on the table for their family, to top chefs who can turn the average into the divine, they all need to be acknowledged, rewarded, and deeply appreciated for making life not just healthier, but happier.
How I love good food. And yet it seems the older I get, the less people know how to cook, let alone cook well. McDonalds and the like may have contributed to ruining our health in more than one way, people don’t seem to have time for a healthy meal any longer. They often don’t know how to cook well, and also they either can’t afford the clean ingredients, or have no access to them. How sad for our health and how sad for our of lack enjoyment for home cooked food.
Food is so important: physically, psychologically, socially, and creativitly! A good example of this is when you were in the hospital and just thought of your Mom’s good food brought comfort!! Good food is so important to everyone from the little first grader to the rulers of the world.
I believe food is not just nutrition but was meant to be enjoyed! Yet how many people can actually cook well? Yes, cancer, patients, or anyone for that matter should not ovedose on sugar. But usually the overdose of sugar comes from it being put in all the processed food, and not from the little sugar, in comparison, being put into homemade desserts of wholesome, eggs, butter and other good ingredients
It always amazed me how unhealthy and horrible most hospital food is as well as school cafeteria food! I often wondered why they put so little effort into what is so important for health and happiness.
I agree with you, about having good ingredients in the refrigerator: whole milk, cheese, and bacon. Sometimes I wonder if we started eating the ancient grains before they changed the genetics of it, if we could clean up the gmos, and the antibiotic in meat, and eat grass fed beef, and non grain fed chickens, and eat more variety if people with some of these allergies to food would clear up!
I know when people get cancer, the first thing they often do, and rightly so, is detox and alter their diets. In this day and age, especially with a detox diet, fasting for three weeks with only green smoothies can often help jump start the medical wonders of the body to help it heal for some people. But I also think that if we had really healthy, organic food, prepared in a variety of healthy ways, and ate a well balnced diet, then the body would be able to process what it needs from the food easily for us to stay healthy or get well.
I think short term,, restricted diet, temporarily, might help our systems rebalance. But I think that long term, restricted diets fights against natural mechanics of mother nature;s food that naturally keep our systems in balance and healthy. I think working towards eating real food once again,, instead of eating all these substitutes, for example, instead of eating fake butter, eating real organic butter, is what our country needs to head off the uprise in caner rates or any illness. America may be one of the richest country in the world, but it is far from the healthiest. How and what do we eat, is perhaps what we all need be looking at if we want to be healthy and happy. Balance is the key to good living and for the most part, for most people,I think nutrition and food intake has become very imbalanced, in my opinion.
I often think about what magic mother nature puts in that real butter of hers that can help heal and keep humans healthy. Did I say how much I love a good, moist cake, with mile high home made frosting for dessert after a scrumptious, healthy, well balanced meal, with lots of herbs and spices that mother nature created for our food to keep everything working smoothly and in balance.
I read once how cinnamon work wonders for those with blood cancers. I think nature provides us with what we need to stay healthy for the most part if we just sampled as much variety, daily, with her clean food. There is a lot of synthesis going on in the combination of spices, herbs and other healthy ingredients. Everyone points their finger at sugar as the bad guy, well, I think the food industry fooled many generation by pointing at sugar as the bas guy for the majority of us, and robbed us of our health, and one of the pleasures in life.
I love food, and yet I am as lean as can be. I weigh the same as I did in college. When I was growing up we had family dinners, family breakfast and we had dessert everyday as most of my friends did. I never remember my friends or their parents being overweight, not like I do today when the majority of the people I see daily appear to be overweight. So what happened to the healthy eating style where we could have croissants for breakfast, or lunch., eggs and bacon for breakfast and yet still be lean and healthy . It seems as soon as lean cuisine entered the frozen food section people got fat. People stopped cooking healthy meals. And suddenly younger generations are being taught that butter, eggs and dairy are not healthy, well they use to be healthy. What did the food industry do to them!
But alas, cancer seems to be on the rise, and part of that, I think, is because of what they did to our food. I think , for the most part, if we eat clean food, we can have sausages, bacon, ages and even have apple pie for breakfast and have it be healthy for us too!!!.
I am a terrible cook. I guess I have no patience for it. But I do so appreciate the talent and the time of those who do cook well, and provide others with nutritionally balanced delicious meals.. What a luxury to sit down to a healthy home cooked meal, at home, or at a restaurant!!!. Maybe if there were more cooks in the world, cooking and baking with healthy ingredients, and back to basics, then perhaps all our health would improve.
So top appreciation to all those who cook for the rest of us who can’t.
Michael Moewes
21st July 2014, 20:06
When I was 30 years old, I was working as a waiter in a Restaurant/Bar. The owners mother in law was some kind of oracle by reading the coffe leftover.
One day she tols me that ther is coming a very serious illness to me but that I will win over it.
2 weeks later, in the same rastaurant, a client told me, that my sexual chackra was deep green and that there must be something wrong.
she advised me to se a doctor. so I went to se a specialist, wich did an ultrasound and told me the one of my testiculs had a 2,5 cm big anomalie, and that he'd like to do a biopsy at the town hospital. as I knew, in this hospital that most of the doctors where alcoholics( I was working two years as a rescue ambulance driver).
So Idenied his offer and went instead to a urolicic hospital from the son of prof.pretorius. (very famus n munich).
As I arrived the professor said that they would take a biopsy. but I stopped him right away, telling him that if it would be malicious and he'd opening the capsule ( as it was still closed) the cancer will spray. so I told them, if you wana check it then take it out entirely and do your analizes than.
done deal, thre days after the surgery, the professor came to me and told me, that I had the right feeling and must have at least a dozen of guardian angels.
he said that the cancer was a carcinom from the worst kind and if I hadn't come to surgery now, the capsule, in about a week from yesterday, would have burst and the metasasis would had effect in my whole body. and in about6 to 12 months I may have died.
At that point I made a drastic change in my life, I quit this job, got my self another big bike again, got a tattoo, for survifing a real mean thing, and started living vegetarian. stopped all unhealthy stuff, no more beer, never smoked, and made a change in mind not to become stressed any more. I had to undergo 14 radiations to my stomach area wich made me feel extremely uncomfortable and sick. but after that all the checkups resultet negative.
I also told myself if ever they will tell me that I have to undergo a chemo, I'd been taken the first airplane to nepal to look out for one of these impressive chamans. I don't have any faith in modern medics and pharamaka. as there are so many natural remedies for cancer. A friend of mine wich lungcancer took on my advice the Graviola powder and is now completely cured.
Live long, healthy and prosper. _\/_
oh yeah, I forgot the most important thing, the one thing wich heals nearly everything is an unfathomable, unshakingly positive attitude. It's easy for me to say as I'm a wood dragon in chinese horoscope, wich are nearly indestructable. "just kidding"
but honestly a positive attitude helps a lot, never give yourself up, no matter how hard life hammers you down, get up like the Phoenix. it's WORTH TO LIVE. so go for it.
Elainie
21st July 2014, 20:08
I had DCIS- that is ductal carcinoma in situ of both breasts. I did not allow a biopsy so I have zero clue as to how far and how bad it was. They wanted to remove both breasts and then go from there. That was 8 years ago. I was already a raw vegan back then but had to get very strict and I went the Hippocrates route along with a full dental detox (the root of the issue) as well as heavy metal detox of my body, I used a lot of other therapies too such as pulsed magnetic, FIR saunas, Hamer medicine for my mind, constellations therapy, shamanic work, did a 3 week green juice only fast at the start, colonics, coffee enemas, certain herbs (blood root was one) etc; it took 3.5 months to fully clear up from the start of the diagnosis and I continued on a strict healing regime for several years.
Hi, Thanks for sharing. I had heard that dental work especially getting rid of the root canals actually helped people wih breasr cancer, or any cancer that was in the upper part of the body. I agree that going the route of first doing no harm is a good starting point that may bring you successfully to the finish line quickly as it appears it did for you. Three and a half months to being cancer free is amazing. May ask if you planned out this protocol yourself or if you sat down with anyone to plan the route you took.
Obviously you quickly addressed detoxiing your body with the dental detox, collonics, heavy metal detox and infra red saunsas.
Was it expensive to do all that? And what method of hevy metal detox did you choose? DId you do the collonics, sauna weekly? For how long? I hear coffee enemas are excellent for detoxing the liver so it can more easily process the toxins out of your body as the body eliminates the cancer and other pathogens.
Green smoothies for the first three weeks? Can you share what was in the smoothies? I hear fasting especially on smoothies is an excellent way to allow the body to focus on ridding the body of pathogens/
How did you decide on which herbs to use. I am nt familiar with blood root. Is it a blood purifier?
It also seems, besides detoxing and building energy into your body and eating cautiosly, you also did a lot of work with the mind and emotions.
Did you do this all on your own or did you have a therapist?
Congratuations for being cancer free and to your continued good health.
one more thing, Pulse magnetics. Was that a pad that you slept on? How long did you do it for, and what was the expense?
What would you advice someone just diagnosed with cancer?
Dr. Thomas Rau of Paracelsus has analyzed cancerous tumors and the majority of breast cancer is indeed he says caused by mercury from dental amalgams. I was riddled with amalgams from childhood. Prostate cancer he says is from the combo of lead, cadmium and mercury. My ex husband died from prostate cancer despite going to Paracelsus in Switzerland and trying 11 other alternative therapies. He was in the metal castings business when he was younger.
When I was diagnosed I went home and was rather in shock. I drew a bath and meditated in the bath for several hours on a cure for my body. All I could see was green, the color of wheatgrass so I knew that was the route to take. I was already a raw food educator and so was fully versed in various aspects of cancer healing. I consulted with Hippocrates Institute and then hired an *underground* healer who was an herbalist and used to work at a Gerson clinic in Mexico. He owned some of the machines we used (the various PEMF devices, radionics, etc;) and he put me on targeted cleanse/detoxes with herbs. Most of the time I was living off of fresh vegetable juice along with the herbs. I ate some raw salads but that was about it. He brought over the PEMF devices and I would lie on it for several hours. After just a few sessions an old sports injury in my knee that ortho's wanted to operate on vanished and vanished for good. I slept on my biomat I purchased and also took FIR saunas daily. I went to a colon hydrotherapist 3 times a week. The expense of this all was in the 10-15 thousand dollar range but cheaper than a few weeks at Sanoviv which I did put a deposit down on (and never used it). Most of that expense was dental cleanup- replacing amalgams with my bio DDS. I did 5 coffee enemas daily plus a certain form of chi gong and jumping on the rebounder to move the lymph. Between all of that I had little time to do anything else, my focus was on healing myself as a single parent to 5 children back then.
I used the various heavy metal detoxifiers my herbalist provided and we detoxed the body in a systematic order. I didn't drink green smoothies, I drank the Hippocrates green juice as well as my own homegrown wheatgrass juice. I also used wheatgrass poultices on my breasts. I took clay and moor mud baths etc;
Bloodroot is used for cancer yes, it's a very stung herb. I know we used paw paw too (similar but more effective than graviola).
Yes, for me illness starts first on a spiritual level and then manifests to the physical so I knew I had to do a lot of work there and worked with therapists were were skilled in Hamer and constellations therapy. I also started delving into shamanic work and continue to do so (I'm a member of a faction of a Daime church so we use the visionary plant medicine ayahuasca).
Personally - what I would advise for those attempting to go the natural route is to look carefully at each therapy and the statistics behind it as far as cure. What I mean is that some therapies work better for certain types of cancers than others. If I for example had pancreatic cancer I'd go the full on Gerson route.
I grew up on organic food, a vegan diet growing up, then became a macrobiotic teacher etc; at age 28 (or was it 29) I was sent a copy of Nourishing Traditions during a pregnancy with my 3rd child and went all hung ho. I developed a breast lump I believe now from eating all that grass fed meat and raw dairy (turned on IGF and I had the heavy metal toxicity to start with) I also had barium toxicity (from barium enemas as a teen when they were trying to diagnose my faulty digestive system which turned out to be celiac). I went in for an ultrasound of both breasts a few years later (because the initial lump had gone away) and the MD said she couldn't see anything and gave me a mammo. Well when she showed me I asked her what all those stars were on my breasts and she said pre cancer. I was so terrified that I consulted the late Pat Connolley of Price Pottenger foundation and she turned me onto the raw primal diet (Aajounus Vonderplanitz) so I ate that way for nearly 4 years. That led me to try other eating approaches which I thought would be better suited for my health (paleo, raw paleo) but in the end I discovered I was a genetic carbohydrate metabolic type and I guess that's why the primal approach didn't work for me.
At clinics in Germany they test you metabolically and genetically to see what diet you need to be on whether it's going to be all plant or ketogenic and that also includes which therapies will be best. If I were to be diagnosed with cancer again would immediately fly to the Arcadia Praxis clinic in Germany and get treatment there (hyperthermia, B17, artesemia IV"s etc) because I think it's one of the best alternative clinics out there.
blake
21st July 2014, 23:50
Hi, Michael. Thank you for sharing youramazing story. I also think you must have had many angels protetcing you. I am glad you were so lucky as the doctor said.
It is good to hear real experiences of hw people found out how they were ill, and how they choose their medical assistance. You were very selective who you allowed to work on you. Not everyone, for various reasons, would know that the local doctors were alcoholics!
I am so glad it worked out for you and you are alive and healthy today to enjoy life.
That is interesting about the Graviola powder. Do you know how long your friends took it before he became well again?
Blessings to you and to your continued good health
Carpathian
22nd July 2014, 01:53
I was diagnosed with Ewings Sarcoma in my pelvis in 1989. It was about the size of a grapefruit when I finally started treatment and we did a year of chemo before they would operate on it (as they initially believed it was too large/dangerous to remove). I honestly do not remember what stage it was but it was advanced enough that they were concerned.
I ended up not having radiation treatments, but I had three different chemo drugs, some of which have been mentioned in this thread already (cytoxan, adriameyecin (dactinomycin), and vincristin). I did a lot of visualization during that year before the surgery (due to a book I was given that I don't remember the name of?) which I had never done before (I was only 19) but seemed to really help. It was a simple process of sitting and imagining your body's own healthy immune cells fighting and destroying the cancer, over and over and over. I would do that incessantly and it really seemed to help - in that year the cancer shrunk to the size of a baseball.
Once it was small enough, I had surgery to remove it (they gave me a 20% chance to successfully recover from the surgery) and reconstruct my hip. After the surgery, I had another year of chemo to make sure the cancer was gone and had not spread when it was disturbed. I also had physical therapy to try and adjust to my new hip and the problems involved.
I sincerely believe there were a couple of things that were extremely helpful to me in recovering from the cancer. I started on a regiment of vitamins (I know the bad reputation of store-bought vitamins but I do believe that they hold SOME value, however weak it may be) including B, C, Magnesium, Ginseng, Ginko, D3, etc. The book that I read (mentioned above) also had many stories in it that claimed that some cancers were the results of an unresolved emotional issue that was occurring in the patients life. I honestly believe this to be true (not in all cases, but in mine - certainly) and it forced me to face some unresolved (and previously unknown/unexplored) aspects of my family life that I was not facing at the time. It's been 25 years, and the cancer has never returned, and I believe it is because I have never stopped facing the emotional issues that (I believe) lie at the core of the disease for me.
Even if this is not true for some people, it has become a certain type of a blessing for me, as it forces me to never hide from issues/emotions/painful memories that I would probably prefer to ignore and/or avoid. It certainly isn't an easy way to live (is life ever really "easy" anyways? :-) but it keeps you honest!
Hope this helps.
Michael Moewes
22nd July 2014, 18:59
Yeah, He took it for six months then a 2 weeks break and another six months. after that there were no markers left in his bloodsample.
Just to let You know. He's now still taking the Graviola powder in a lower dosis daily just to prevent.
The amazing thing about Graviola is, that it's 15,000 times stronger than any chemo, but with zero side effects.
Hi, Michael. Thank you for sharing youramazing story. I also think you must have had many angels protetcing you. I am glad you were so lucky as the doctor said.
http://www.inkanatural.com
That's where we buy it.
It is good to hear real experiences of hw people found out how they were ill, and how they choose their medical assistance. You were very selective who you allowed to work on you. Not everyone, for various reasons, would know that the local doctors were alcoholics!
I am so glad it worked out for you and you are alive and healthy today to enjoy life.
That is interesting about the Graviola powder. Do you know how long your friends took it before he became well again?
Blessings to you and to your continued good health
blake
24th July 2014, 16:17
Hello ERK.
Thank You! That was so much information. Much of it I had never heard of. I like the fact that in Germany they test metabolically and genetically what woul dbe good for you. I never hear of that happeninghere for the average cancer patient. I am amzed that you were able to do so much research and get the treatments and do so much caring for yourself with five kids!
I think you must intuiyively talented to get a diagnosis and go home =to take a bathand mediate on what action you should take.
How does one go about getting an underground healer? It sounds like you made sure you got a talented healer herbalist to work with you. Not all herbalist are talented.
I am happy you were able able to fund your therpires. Sadly so many people are first into chemo becasue health insurance or non insured people with cancer are not offered fianacial assistance to do anything but chemo.
Thank you again for sharing all that/
I send you many blessing for continued health,
blake
24th July 2014, 16:33
Hello Carpathian,
Thank you for sharing your story. I also thnk that many times there is an emotional component to getting better. I think whtever route people take conventional or natural or a combination of the two, working on the emotional componant is important. It would be good is more cancer patients could be helped with that aspect of it, especially if he conventional route is taken.
Many blessings for your continued good health
blake
25th July 2014, 01:24
Hello All,
As I read through all the responses, they were all incredible stories and much good inofrmation shared. It seems as most people do go the conventional route, but also reinforce it with varies alternative methods.
It would really be helpful to hear from more people who have survived their cancer diagnosis. I think it is hopeful to all those who are facing a diagnosis or in treatment to read about people who went through the paralyzing shock of being told they had cancer And what they did. Sure there are lots of books about people who survived their cancer diagnosis but it's just not the same as hearing from the people who didn;t write books.
I wonder if there are many out there?
Michael Moewes
27th July 2014, 16:57
Hi all,
I forgot to mention something very important.
In my case, Cancer had a lot to do with my bloodtype. I'm A+. and as my friend, a professor for chinese medicine found out about my conditions, he told me the following thing.
Due to my bloodtype, I have to avoid completely all animal proteins. wich means absolutely no meat, no fish, no shellfish whatsoever.
The only bloodtype wich is able to manage animal proteins and definitely need it is type O.
Type A has a cancer potential of 400 to 500 times higher if you consum animals. and stress is the trigger.
Type AB still has a cancer potential of 350 to 450 times higher.
And Type B is also by 400 to 500 times.
So from my experience life Vegan and avoid stress gets the risk down tremediously.
I don't consider any form of drugs whatsoever, if you want to evolve spiritually. For examle as my Teacher said smoking any form of mahriujana stops you completely in your developement exactly at the age and moment of your life when you take it.
Any kind of smoking shuts down your 80,000 energetic channels in your phisical und etheric or spiritual body.
Drinking alcohol makes you a vegtetable, not be able to control yourself.
Sorry for this harsh statement, but as I care for all of You, I needed to tell.
Most of the bad results in the phisical body can be purified, when avoiding all toxines, after 7 Years 7 months and 7 days. Than, usually all bodycells have regeneratet and have lost their memory function to these toxines.
May all beings be free from suffering and its causes.
:wizard:
blake
27th July 2014, 19:41
That is very interesting, Michael. Did he also talk about the negative bloodtypes such as A negative, abd B negative and O negative?
Elainie
28th July 2014, 05:08
I have 0 + blood and I can tell you I do not do well with animal food. It's detrimental for me. I am an APOE4 also known as the ancestral allele and 4's need to follow a low fat plant based diet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-suzanne-steinbaum/heart-brain-health_b_4210231.html
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/73/4/669.full
http://www.gbhealthwatch.com/HotTopic-Eating-Right-APOE.php
blake
28th July 2014, 11:47
Part of teh Huffingtonpost articel linked above. I had never heard of this gene, except when you had mentioned it earlier but had never explained the signficane. I wonder how one goes about being tested for this?
Until now, most doctors have thought that Alzheimer's disease was a genetic disease and that if you get it, you are unlucky, but that there isn't much you can do about it. That thinking is changing. We already know you can lower your risk of heart disease with lifestyle changes. It turns out those same changes can also lower your risk of early-onset Alzheimer's disease In both cases, genetics plays a role, but it is far from the only player. How you live affects your heart... and your brain.
One of the most interesting ways these two systems in your body are related is through a gene on chromosome 19 called the Apo E gene. Everybody has two copies, one from each parent, and each gene may be one of three types: ApoE2, ApoE3, or ApoE4. In preventive cardiology, the role of Apo E has been on the radar for the last decade or so. In people with one or two copies of the ApoE4 gene, the body has a more difficult time metabolizing fat. In people with an ApoE4 gene, eating a lot of meat, dairy products, and fatty foods tends to cause the build-up of arterial plaque in both the heart and the brain. When I have a patient with the ApoE4 gene, I advise them to eat a mostly vegetarian or even a vegan diet because I've seen what a high-fat diet can do to that person's heart.
In the world of brain science, ApoE4 is notorious. If you have one copy of the gene, your risk of developing Alzheimer's disease is higher than average. If you have two copies of the gene, your risk is even higher, with up to an 80 percent correlation between Alzheimer's and ApoE4. You are not necessarily doomed to Alzheimer's disease, however. Knowing you have one or two ApoE4 genes is a warning to be very, very careful about what you eat and how you live.
But there is more to the story. Sugar and simple carbs like white bread, pasta, and baked goods have also been implicated in an increase in both heart disease and Alzheimer's disease. Those who have one or two ApoE2 genes are less able to process sugar, which can lead to a tendency to develop diabetes. We already know that diabetes, or pre-diabetes conditions like metabolic syndrome, predispose people to both heart disease and Alzheimer's disease. And lest you think you are off the hook if you have two of the so-called normal ApoE3 genes, meaning you metabolize both fats and sugars normally, think again. Despite ApoE status, diets high in fats as well as diets high in sugar and simple carbs are still both implicated on both fronts: heart disease and Alzheimer's disease. If your diet is high in both, you are headed in the wrong direction.
Dr. Maria Carillo, the Director of Medical and Scientific Relations at the Alzheimer's Association in Chicago, made clear the connection between the brain and the heart by citing how, in many trials, those lifestyle recommendations for diet and exercise have proven to be beneficial for brain health. In other words, the body is more integrated than doctors once believed. What affects one vital organ also affects another, and the bottom line is that you can affect how those organs perform and age based on your lifestyle choices. If you have two ApoE4 genes, you may have a greater risk of developing Alzheimer's, but only if you "turn on" that gene with a high-fat diet (and even with ApoE4, a high-sugar inflammatory diet will only make things worse). http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/APOE
blake
28th July 2014, 12:00
This is from the gbhealthwatch.com.
Its good to read that only about 20 to 30 percent of Aficans and caucasians are apoe4.
I don;t understand why the medcal profession isn't doing a better job of informing people of this so they can choose the diet which may give them a better odds of staying healthy. Plus it is good inforamtion that different people can and must eat different diets. For me, I think if you pay attention to your body, you can tell which food its needs and which ones you should lay low on. But thank you ERK for sharing his helpful information.
Eating right for your APOE gene
There seems to be an endless debate when it comes to diet: high carb vs. high fat – which is better for your health? The truth is, it depends on your genes. While many genetic variations contribute to how your body reacts to carbohydrates and fat, the APOE gene variation is a clear major factor.
APOE, short for apolipoprotein E, is responsible for the production, delivery, and utilization of cholesterol in the body. Variations in APOE function lead to variations in cholesterol levels in the blood as well as in other tissues. High blood cholesterol is a major risk factor for cardiovascular disease while cholesterol deficiency in the brain is a hallmark of Alzheimer’s disease.
There are three common isoforms of the APOE (E2, E3 and E4) and, because humans have two copies of each gene, these three isoforms code for six genotypes (E2/E2, E2/E3, E2/E4, E3/E3, E3/E4, and E4/E4). Your APOE genotype determines how your body metabolizes cholesterol.
"For 20-30% of Africans and Caucasians with the APOE4 gene, a low fat diet can reduce risk for high cholesterol."
The APO E3/E3 genotype is considered the “norm,” with about 60% of the population being characterized by this genotype and thus having what we define as “normal” cholesterol metabolism. On the other hand, the presence of an E2 or E4 isoform in the other 40% is associated with some form of altered or “abnormal” cholesterol metabolism. E2 is associated with lower levels of cholesterol while E4 is associated with higher.
Interestingly, the effects of these isoforms are “gene dose-dependent”. For example, the cholesterol levels of E2/E3 are between that of E2/E2 and E3/E3 and the cholesterol levels of E3/E4 are between that of E3/E3 and E4/E4. Of all six genotypes, E4/E4 is associated with the greatest risk for high cholesterol.
How does the metabolism of cholesterol influence how your body handles a high carb versus high fat diet? It is important first to understand how fat and cholesterol metabolism are linked in the body. Both fat and cholesterol are major components of a group of particles called lipoproteins. A high fat diet increases lipoprotein levels, which in turn increases cholesterol requirements causing more cholesterol to be absorbed from food and/or synthesized by the liver. This means that a high fat diet is equivalent to a high cholesterol diet. Many research studies have consistently confirmed that E4 carriers benefit most from low fat, high carb diets while E2 carriers benefit most from high fat, low carb diets.
The APOE genotypes are associated with more than just cholesterol levels; APOE4 has been linked to higher risk for Alzheimer’s disease. One study showed that carriers of this genotype have up to 20 times the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease than non-carriers. APOE variants have also been associated with various cardiovascular diseases, hypertension, obesity, type 2 diabetes, dyslipidemia and the metabolic syndrome. A comprehensive description of the APOE genotypes and their interaction with diet, medications, and exercise is available in the article High Cholesterol and the APOE Gene.
Elainie
28th July 2014, 15:39
It's a genetic test- Spectracell labs offers it and it's part of nearly every comprehensive heart panel done. This is an interesting blog from a man who is also APOE4 and tests out various diets (I've done the same minus the potato diet and I didn't get a plaque scan although my doctor wanted me to). http://www.fivediets.com/
The ghist of it is- some *healthy* fats can be really damaging for people like me who have the 4 allele.
blake
28th July 2014, 15:52
It's a genetic test- Spectracell labs offers it and it's part of nearly every comprehensive heart panel done. This is an interesting blog from a man who is also APOE4 and tests out various diets (I've done the same minus the potato diet and I didn't get a plaque scan although my doctor wanted me to). http://www.fivediets.com/
The ghist of it is- some *healthy* fats can be really damaging for people like me who have the 4 allele.
I think, that is true across the board for many protocols not just a ketogenic diet being good for all and a cancer cure. It seems, like Dr Mercola, and god bless hm for his work, but does he bring up
the individuality of people's metabolisms.I know he was a proponebt of Ketogenic diets. ANd he loves talking about healthy oils and seems to love bringing up how good conconut oil is and he shows how to makes fudge with it. Yet I have never read anything ny him about those people, 20 to 30 percent of Americans, according to that article you linked that don't metabolized fats, even healthy fats well. And I wonder why he wouldn't include that information. Is it that he is unaware of it or is it he doesn't agree with it.
And so we all have the obligation, no matter how much we pay the medical profession, to do our own research on what will help heal us. The medical profession is not up on all the latest across the board. The medical profession doesn't have time to research your condition, so they go withwhat is nown in general not what s known about you specifically.
My mother and grandparents use to complain how doctors knew so little of what they need to know tohelp people. I now undestand what they meant. Yet how can sick people do the deep research and anaylisis of their case while they are so sick, and how can a doctor do that when he devotes ten minutes to your case?
So conventional or alternative, everyone not researching their own medical situation is putting their health at risk it seems.
Elainie
28th July 2014, 15:55
[QUOTE=ERK;858631]It's a genetic test- Spectracell labs offers it and it's part of nearly every comprehensive heart panel done. This is an interesting blog from a man who is also APOE4 and tests out various diets (I've done the same minus the potato diet and I didn't get a plaque scan although my doctor wanted me to). http://www.fivediets.com/
The ghist of it is- some *healthy* fats can be really damaging for people like me who have the 4 allele.
I think, that is true across the board for many protocols not just a ketogenic diet being good for all and a cancer cure. It seems, like Dr Mercola, and god bless hm for his work, but does he bring up
the individuality of people's metabolisms.I know he was a proponebt of Ketogenic diets. ANd he loves talking about healthy oils and seems to love bringing up how good conconut oil is and he shows how to makes fudge with it. Yet I have never read anything ny him about those people, 20 to 30 percent of Americans, according to that article you linked that don't metabolized fats, even healthy fats well. And I wonder why he wouldn't include that information. Is it that he is unaware of it or is it he doesn't agree with it.
And so we all have the obligation, no matter how much we pay the medical profession, to do our own research on what will help heal us. The medical profession is not up on all the latest across the board. The medical profession doesn't have time to research your condition, so they go withwhat is nown in general not what s known about you specifically.
My mother and grandparents use to complain how doctors knew so little of what they need to know tohelp people. I now undestand what they meant. Yet how can sick people do the deep research and anaylisis of their case while they are so sick, and how can a doctor do that when he devotes ten minutes to your case?
So conventional or alternative, everyone not researching their own medical situation is putting their health at risk it seems.[/QUOTE
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Mercola yes is very into the healthy fats - he bought into that. I know he is aware of the problems with protein but I am going to ask about the fats and APOE4. Nutrigenomics is a relatively new area of study. It's really vital IMO.
Michael Moewes
28th July 2014, 17:23
The polarity of the blood type doesn't matter it's equal for both.
That is very interesting, Michael. Did he also talk about the negative bloodtypes such as A negative, abd B negative and O negative?
And sorry again. I'm just getting started. For some of You I will bring bad news.
If you're very fond of cowmilk and its products, and you're older than 3 years. the proteins will give you serious healthproblems. As: milk takes calcium out of your bones instead of giving it. Organic banana is better.
Milk also give you mucus in your inner organs and fill your lungs with mucus too.
there are much more details, but I don't remember the most as for me, that's allready enough.
As I say live VEGAN.
Michael Moewes
28th July 2014, 17:32
For those afortunate, who understand Spanish, this Doctor has a huge reputation in Spain and here I have an article about cowmilk. enjoy.
http://www.doctorjoseluisvazquez.com/los-peligros-de-la-leche-de-vaca.html
blake
28th July 2014, 18:52
It's a genetic test- Spectracell labs offers it and it's part of nearly every comprehensive heart panel done. This is an interesting blog from a man who is also APOE4 and tests out various diets (I've done the same minus the potato diet and I didn't get a plaque scan although my doctor wanted me to). http://www.fivediets.com/
The ghist of it is- some *healthy* fats can be really damaging for people like me who have the 4 allele.
The fivediet was intersting, but Imust be missing something as it looks as if all the results were not posted
Elainie
28th July 2014, 20:01
It's a genetic test- Spectracell labs offers it and it's part of nearly every comprehensive heart panel done. This is an interesting blog from a man who is also APOE4 and tests out various diets (I've done the same minus the potato diet and I didn't get a plaque scan although my doctor wanted me to). http://www.fivediets.com/
The ghist of it is- some *healthy* fats can be really damaging for people like me who have the 4 allele.
The fivediet was intersting, but Imust be missing something as it looks as if all the results were not posted
I know, I think he gave up blogging about it.
Yes, dairy is bad news- see CHina Study, Professor Jane Plant etc; for more info. Here's one:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22190107
blake
29th July 2014, 10:56
Hi Michael,
Thank you for sharing about the cow milk. I agree with you on that, But I oftne wonder if raw cow milk or raw goat milk has a differtn affect. I know singers wont drink cow milk becasue of the mucous becasue it affect their voice. They will often eat an apple before singing to cut down on the muscous at last the singers that I know
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