Photos suggest crashed Malaysian jet was MH-370

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

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https://secure.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/

http://nodisinfo.com/strewn-fake-wreckage-proven-mh17-crash-hoax/

I am speechless . Wow!

[Hervé]

Well, it seems that guy's got a point re: windows.

However, what's on the ground is neither, so one would need a recent, certified picture of MH 17 to compare to...


http://s2.djyimg.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2014/07/20/452424582-663x450.jpg

[Leon]

only serial numbers of parts can confirm to which plane these belonged... a process someone with access to the information could find, they did show a picture of a spare part with serial number so go check.. I no longer have access to these records...

[Billy]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and theories.

But to say that this plane was brought in and exploded on the ground is taking things a bit to far. (In my opinion)

The local villagers reported bits of the plane raining down on top of them. Bodies falling around them and hitting some locals. One body crashed through the roof of a house.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2014/07/19/bodies-rained-down-from-the-sky-on-ukraine-village-after-malaysia-mh17-plane-shot-down-by-a-ground-to-air-missile-and-obama-went-to-fundraisers/

Now some of the victims have landed in Holland to be identified by DNA and relatives. Are they going to find out that none can be identified as they are not the same people who boarded flight MH17.

I think not.

peace

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[LoneWolf76]

I did look into that and came to the same conclusion, but Stew Webb (http://www.stewwebb.com/) (closely aligned with Veterans Today) apparently had a radio interview where he discloses that the window of MH017 was recently covered up, as evidenced by a more recent photo of the plane. Most pics on the web are old....

I'll try and tune in to get the story!

[LoneWolf76]

And here are a couple of more recent pics of both planes...

9M-MRD MH017 (http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=437417)

9M-MRO MH370 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2417701/&sid=f9cce2554bf9ffeed977da71929e)

[Hervé]

Thanks LW76,

It definitely shows that what's on the ground is NOT from 9M-MRO and is fairly consistent with a piece of 9M-MRD looking at the lettering style and the bottom of the door:


http://img.planespotters.net/photo/437000/original/9M-MRD-Malaysia-Airlines-Boeing-777-200_PlanespottersNet_437417.jpg


http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5608828/data/an-mh17-crash-site-data.jpg

Case closed!

[linksplatinum]

Thanks LW76,

It definitely shows that what's on the ground is NOT from 9M-MRO and is fairly consistent with a piece of 9M-MRD looking at the lettering style and the bottom of the door:


http://img.planespotters.net/photo/437000/original/9M-MRD-Malaysia-Airlines-Boeing-777-200_PlanespottersNet_437417.jpg


http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5608828/data/an-mh17-crash-site-data.jpg

Case closed!


Anyone can get vinyl decals made to match what they want you to see, if they went through the trouble to dispose of bodies, then how hard would it be to change decal lettering on the side of a plane? Just saying

[Bill Ryan]

Case closed!


Indeed!

:focus:

Back to topic -- on this main thread, please:

Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73055-Malaysian-Plane-MH17-shot-down-with-over-295-on-board.-But-by-who)

[Tyy1907]

Thanks LW76,

It definitely shows that what's on the ground is NOT from 9M-MRO and is fairly consistent with a piece of 9M-MRD looking at the lettering style and the bottom of the door:


http://img.planespotters.net/photo/437000/original/9M-MRD-Malaysia-Airlines-Boeing-777-200_PlanespottersNet_437417.jpg


http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5608828/data/an-mh17-crash-site-data.jpg

Case closed!


Anyone can get vinyl decals made to match what they want you to see, if they went through the trouble to dispose of bodies, then how hard would it be to change decal lettering on the side of a plane? Just saying

I agree. If they've got these clear as day photos of the wreckage, how does anybody really know if anythings been placed to look a certain way or not? Jim Stone has made some connections to MH17 possibly being 370 as well. I wouldn't rule anything out yet.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

I have been trying to find the original image the video posted - cannot. OK so this could be another dishoaxinfo like UKDisclosure group - which I really detest.

However, I will spike your minds with the fact there are many layers to deceptions - and the ones we always talk about that control everything that happens on this prison planet, my spidy senses are tingling about the fact how quickly debunk and hoax videos appear so quickly they can bee seen to be actual part of the script - so watch out for those types (such as maybe this youtube poster) - I notice BTW he has just added a blurb over the original video claiming that it is now "IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL".

Well, is he a deliberate hoaxer, a false starter or something else? Is his INTENT to gain by deception? Is he a future pinup boy for internet censorship? And on and on...

"case closed" does not mean it is because you say that BTW, that is still your opinion. I still have the case opened, and my eyes, my gut there is more to this and these photos.

[cursichella1]

Here's the photo of the Malaysia plane that was spotted in Tel Aviv during the MH 370 fiasco. I'm working from a tablet so hard for me to make out the detail.



http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/1_172737942.jpg

p.s. Ok, even massively large, still hard to make out. Link to Bollyn's article, the photo above and others are here. http://www.bollyn.com/are-the-israelis-planning-another-9-11-using-the-missing-777/

[Hervé]

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"case closed" does not mean it is because you say that BTW, that is still your opinion. I still have the case opened, and my eyes, my gut there is more to this and these photos.

Check LW76 links and pictures for both planes and check their dates and make up your own mind!

AFAIC these pictures are indeed enough to close that case :)


And here are a couple of more recent pics of both planes...

9M-MRD MH017 (http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=437417)

9M-MRO MH370 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2417701/&sid=f9cce2554bf9ffeed977da71929e)

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

2 Sites proclaiming more proof of something 'other' that the 'official story' for reference.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/bombshell-100-proof-mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/

[linksplatinum]

2 Sites proclaiming more proof of something 'other' that the 'official story' for reference.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/bombshell-100-proof-mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/

I concur with Jim Stone on everything he has brought to light on every aspect of his findings. The proof is irrefutable, each and every part of this cover up hoax, false flag is pathetic, and malicious. Not to mention, the lives that were taken to pin this event on Russia, so that these genocidal megalomaniac Zionists could continue their murdering spree is completely unforgivable. There's no way out for these criminals, they are backed into a corner because the walls are coming down!

[Tyy1907]

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"case closed" does not mean it is because you say that BTW, that is still your opinion. I still have the case opened, and my eyes, my gut there is more to this and these photos.

Check LW76 links and pictures for both planes and check their dates and make up your own mind!

AFAIC these pictures are indeed enough to close that case :)


And here are a couple of more recent pics of both planes...

9M-MRD MH017 (http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=437417)

9M-MRO MH370 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2417701/&sid=f9cce2554bf9ffeed977da71929e)

Just to add on here, we can't underestimate these agencies who put out these photos and photoshop details as necessary. To nip these discrepancies in the bud, they will change things asap as they definately do pay close attention to sites such as Avalon forum and many other alternative news sources.

[Hervé]

Don't underestimate those agencies to put out pure psyops telling people what to see that's not even there... they don't even need photoshop for people to swallow it hook, line and sinker.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

http://graphics.wsj.com/mh17-crash-map/

Another piece of the puzzle.

[Maia Gabrial]

Look closely at these 2 planes and you should see the difference in the planes. The windows beside the doors are very different. 17 has one window and a space and then the rest of the windows follow. 370 has no space at all. Passports and tickets were not even scorched. The bodies and grass weren't even scorched.... And if I'm not mistaken when bodies are in an explosion, don't they get torn into many pieces? Oh yeah, and the bodies had no blood in them.

Can't believe anyone fell for this.

[jerry]

Thought this should be on its own thread. After checking already posted looks like a new spin here
http://asheepnomore.net/2014/07/26/heres-proof-mh-17-fact-lost-flight-mh-370/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/08/official-investigation-downing-malaysian-plane-now-clearly-hoax.html

“British air accident investigators will retrieve data from the black boxes of crashed flight MH17, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has said. This follows a request by authorities in the Netherlands, where the Malaysia Airlines plane had flown from before crashing in Ukraine last Thursday. The experts, based at Farnborough, will download data from the recorders for analysis by Dutch and Ukrainian teams.”

This means that the Ukrainian Government, which is itself suspected of having brought the airliner down, is participating in the decoding of the information to determine who brought this plane down. Is it supposed to be acceptable legal practice, anywhere in the world, to have a major suspect in a possible criminal investigation participate in the investigation to determine whom, if anyone, to charge (i.e., whether the event wasn’t merely a tragic error on the part of whomever fired the shot or shots that brought this plane down)? Obviously, it is not. Consequently, the immediate question here is whether this “investigation” is itself a crime.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Here's my thread on the same subject http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73186-Photos-suggest-crashed-Malaysian-jet-was-MH-370

I am still undecided - but Ukraine has not been very upfront with their radar video, unlike Russia. Also interesting the fighting in the area escalated to the point that no one can get in there to do a full investigation on this 'theory'. Still, undecided.

[jerry]

This is one of those stories you can never be clear or decisive on , as the following quote explains
"We’ll know our disinformation programs are complete when everything the public believes is false” William Casey CIA Director 1981

[sigma6]

Thought this should be on its own thread. After checking already posted looks like a new spin here
http://asheepnomore.net/2014/07/26/heres-proof-mh-17-fact-lost-flight-mh-370/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/08/official-investigation-downing-malaysian-plane-now-clearly-hoax.html

“British air accident investigators will retrieve data from the black boxes of crashed flight MH17, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has said. This follows a request by authorities in the Netherlands, where the Malaysia Airlines plane had flown from before crashing in Ukraine last Thursday. The experts, based at Farnborough, will download data from the recorders for analysis by Dutch and Ukrainian teams.”

This means that the Ukrainian Government, which is itself suspected of having brought the airliner down, is participating in the decoding of the information to determine who brought this plane down. Is it supposed to be acceptable legal practice, anywhere in the world, to have a major suspect in a possible criminal investigation participate in the investigation to determine whom, if anyone, to charge (i.e., whether the event wasn’t merely a tragic error on the part of whomever fired the shot or shots that brought this plane down)? Obviously, it is not. Consequently, the immediate question here is whether this “investigation” is itself a crime.

You mean the same people who confiscated the radar records and booted out that Spanish Air Traffic Controller who reported there were 2 Ukrainian Fighter tailing the MH17 minutes before it crashed??? Those people? ohhhhhhhh.....

[Koyaanisqatsi]

They tried to assasinate putin. They went for the Archduke moment and failed to the demise of hundreds, msm wont touch it but Putins personal plane flew over that very spot about 20 minutes before flight mh17. It spoofed the radar to mask it as another plane and they shot down a civilian plane instead. Of course the investigation will be botched haha

[jerry]

Revelations of German Pilot MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile

http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111