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sigma6
25th July 2014, 10:28
Sheriffs move to arrest convicted church leaders Bergoglio, Pachon and Welby: Vatican-Crown plan counter attack
WE ARE LIVING IN THE AGE OF REVELATION AND PROPHECY!
COULD THIS BE THE LAST POPE!?
"There are rumors that a price has been put on Annett's head by Ndrangheta"
An Update from The International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels
July 24, 2014 , 3 pm GMT (Common Cause News Service and copyright)
Brussels, Rome and London:
In the wake of the Court's criminal conviction of Pope Francis, Jorge Bergoglio, Jesuit head Adolfo Pachon and Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby on July 18, Court-authorized Sheriffs armed with Arrest Warrants are seeking to detain the three convicted men today in London and Rome.
Bergoglio, Pachon and Welby were found guilty of child trafficking and murder by a unanimous decision of the five Magistrates of the Court last Friday, and sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
A spokeswoman for the Court said today,
"Our Sheriffs have notified police authorities in England, Italy and at the Vatican about the conviction, and have asked for their assistance in arresting the guilty parties, who have been issued a Court Order to comply with the verdict, and to surrender themselves to the Sheriffs"
In response, sources in Rome and Brussels have informed the Court that the Vatican is launching a counter attack against the verdict which will include blind media stories attacking the Court and Kevin Annett.
"You can expect an escalation in the hysteria and smears against him and the Court, including from the so-called alternative media that gets Vatican money. Now's the time for another big distraction to fog your verdict" stated a member of Italy's Radical Party today.
Politicians and church sources in Rome confirm that the Court verdict has the Pope "extremely worried". Jesuit leader Adolfo Pachon, also convicted by the Court, has already announced that he will resign at the next Jesuit congress.
In London, Archbishop Welby closeted himself with advisers on July 14 to discuss the Court's case, during the recent London Synod of the Anglican church. Welby has apparently decided not to leave Lambeth Palace, his official residence in London, and has requested police protection.
But the criminal syndicate known as Ndrangheta, which was publicly exposed by Kevin Annett and the Court as a major actor in child trafficking and murder connected to the Catholic church, is apparently planning a more deadly response.
According to a source in a Belgian police department,
"There are rumors that a price has been put on Annett's head by Ndrangheta. My contacts say it's being planned with the Holy Alliance" (the Vatican spy and assassination agency).
The Court is planning to release some of the key evidence that convicted the three church officials no later than September 1, 2014, when a Permanent Commission into Child Trafficking and Ritual Sacrifice will be established to dig deeper into the role of Ndrangheta and major banks in drug money laundering, child trafficking and murder.
A European representative of the Common Law Court, Melanie Vritschan, and Field Secretary Kevin Annett will be holding a global media interview soon to elaborate the evidence and respond to these new threats. Stand by for further updates and instructions.
Issued by The Public Information Office of The International Common Law Court of Justice, Brussels
24 July, 2014, 3 pm GMT
www.iclcj.com , www.itccs.org
Curt
25th July 2014, 11:23
It's worth noting that the 'sheriffs' in question have no legal authority to detain anyone.
And the 'warrants' were issued by the 'International Common Law Court', which has no legal authority and no enforcement authority.
It would be like if Project Avalon set up a court and then appointed sheriffs and issued warrants for people's arrests.
We should be under no illusions that this 'court' has any teeth whatsoever.
Do I say this because I'm happy about it?
NO.
It would be great if there were justice in the world.
But let's not kid ourselves here, folks.
Snoweagle
25th July 2014, 12:31
It's worth noting that the 'sheriffs' in question have no legal authority to detain anyone.
And the 'warrants' were issued by the 'International Common Law Court', which has no legal authority and no enforcement authority.
It is that mindset that keeps everyone stupid.
What authority do you allude to?
Do you refer to the forceful entrapment by Financial Oligarchs with a Court system that is despised the world over?
Legal authority? What is it? Who controls the Legal Authority you allude to?
Enforcement Authority? This is the person with bullets still in the chamber of the gun pointing at our heads, these are the ones that have forced the "Legal Authority" upon us.
It is the core perception we have no say and we move from day to day blind to the vagaries of our existence.
The International Common Law Court has the authority that we provide it with and not from it's own claims.
If you believe what they are doing is good, then stand up and say so. That is power. Bring your friends and family into the discussion, as only by doing that will we be able to break this slavery mentality that persists in our lives.
Brakeman
25th July 2014, 12:33
What silliness.
Does anyone here believe the world of men to work that way?
Self appointed courts based on a whimsical interpretation of more interpretations.
The world of men continues regardless if the kids are playing dress up in the playhouse across the street.
;)
Snoweagle
25th July 2014, 12:39
What silliness.
Does anyone here believe the world of men to work that way?
Self appointed courts based on a whimsical interpretation of more interpretations.
You are clearly referring to the Jewish Freemasonic Global Legal System now entrenched within the United Nations. Self appointed. Not elected.
Time for change.
The International Common Law Court has my support.
folotheflo
25th July 2014, 13:42
mark my words, they will not be arrested, but god damn i wish they were. The world of men is indeed horrificly inadequate
Snoweagle
25th July 2014, 13:51
mark my words, they will not be arrested, but god damn i wish they were. The world of men is indeed horrificly inadequate
We grant you your wish, just stand up and be counted, shout it out, sing a song but do not let your desire waiver.
When you believe in something and you really want something, what do people say?
Would it be something like:
"Get off your phuking arse and do something about it"
"Move yourself"
"Now is the time"
and one from Gene Rosenberry "ENGAGE"
Just do not whimper in dark places - Suck it up and go for it
sigma6
25th July 2014, 14:18
It's worth noting that the 'sheriffs' in question have no legal authority to detain anyone.
And the 'warrants' were issued by the 'International Common Law Court', which has no legal authority and no enforcement authority.
It would be like if Project Avalon set up a court and then appointed sheriffs and issued warrants for people's arrests.
We should be under no illusions that this 'court' has any teeth whatsoever.
Do I say this because I'm happy about it?
NO.
It would be great if there were justice in the world.
But let's not kid ourselves here, folks.
That's only half true, the fact is all the "government officials that you think have authority don't either within the context that you are defining...
But that doesn't stop millions of people from lining up and ending up in jail...
Doesn't stop the killings...
Fact of the matter is WE ARE LIVING UNDER AN ILLUSION, including yourself...
ie. what you are saying is meaningless because you have left out the context to make it meaningful...
In this mind boggling Talkshoe, EX ATTORNEY "Debra" drops bombshell after bombshell, exactly what I have been saying...
We are considered idiots in their eyes... Cattle to be milked and slaughtered for their enrichment....
I should put this in Driver's License Thread (about exposing the illusion and fraud of corporations pretending to be our governments)
They are corporations using every deception in order to mislead us into thinking we have to kiss their arses,
of course you know what happens when you try to explain this stuff to the ignorant masses...
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=877230&cmd=apop
Rod Class' Page
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc
Looking at some of the comments, no wonder so many are weak and powerless, you have resigned yourself to your own birdcage. It's called Learned Helplessness. And it's a psychological condition. Kevin Annett has moved mountains, it's a shame that a world full of 7 billion people would emasculate themselves, of their own consent... :(
sigma6
25th July 2014, 14:28
What silliness.
Does anyone here believe the world of men to work that way?
Self appointed courts based on a whimsical interpretation of more interpretations.
The world of men continues regardless if the kids are playing dress up in the playhouse across the street.
;)
We can believe what you are saying or take the word of an ex attorney who has been taught the system from the inside...
I love how people always equate their own failures and the failures of others as proof of concept.
Tell that to Thomas Edison. Although I never agreed with his morality as a human being. He understood persistence... trial and error and hard work.
That's how you get results in the real world. Whereas the rest of the planet thinks that if you don't solve the worlds problems in 2 hours (Hollywood Movie time) there is no solution... (if you get what I mean...)
Anyhow according to Debra... the most powerful court is the Grand Jury... ie. 12 people who picked themselves to be the court. In fact she explains what the real court is... (it's YOU!!!) Again the only problem is the ignorance and stupidity of the people...
(as harsh as that sounds... it's wakey wakey time... AGAIN)
This is what Sam Kennedy was attempting and it looks like Tim Turner might have either been just a greedy self serving upstart, or an inside agent...
But Sam Kennedy was trying to establish Grand Juries back in 2008/9?
He had it right, and the BIGGEST OBSTACLE turned out to be the internal members of his own group! This self sabotaging behaviour is UNIVERSAL ingrained from generations. THAT IS THEIR REAL POWER, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
Ex Attorney Spills the Beans... Guess what you have been duped by Occult Manipulators... :(
Warning: This is a bit of a mindblower, but people who still "don't get it" should at least make room for the people who are interested in learning. This information is now leaking out from so many sources it's getting retarded. The only problem is that there IS A LOT of LEARNING and UNLEARNING (misconceptions, illusions, misinterpretations, etc) that has to be done. But what are we here for?
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=877230&cmd=apop
Rod's Page
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc
If you want it bad enough, you have to pursue it wholeheartedly... with seriousness of mind, focus, and due diligence, and you are going to need a network...
Operator
25th July 2014, 14:43
I am skeptical too ... but a sideways-in raid always works the best ;)
So, if people believe that black covert ops are 'legal' well then we will stay in
this status quo forever ...
It also makes sense why they are now attacking forums that speak about - or
encourage matters that are not 'legal' (i.e. (man-)made up by them).
sigma6
25th July 2014, 14:48
Right, it's all a play on words, legal essentially means corporate, ficitional, statutory, codes (CODES!!!) regulations, CORPORATE RULES
Corporate Rules that only apply to anyone willing to be an employee of a corporation...
If you escape that one then there is lawful. LAW and LAWFULNESS
This is, in a sense just another trap, as many folks try to run to COMMON LAW...
1 Timothy 1:5-10 explains who the LAW applies to...
King James Version (KJV) (Authorized to be used in a court of LAW)
5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Then there is TRUST... and lo and behold... She does actually touch on this... Now considering it doesn't sound like she has studied trust law per se... Her direct education and experience shows she knows how to WORK within the system to evoke it... and that is what counts...
And sure enough She also states the highest court is the Court of Chancery. There is one in every State, but it is hidden (of course...) That is where the Constitution is upheld.
Curt
25th July 2014, 15:40
Hi Sig,
I appreciate your frustration. And I get it.
Here's my point, though.
Annett's court presents itself as though it has the power to issue warrants and detain and arrest people.
It doesn't.
And here's the thing: Annett's court potentially has something far more powerful than that: moral authority.
If wielded properly, his organisation could channel the righteous indignation of 7 billion people worldwide- people who find themselves enslaved by the legal fictions you've so well described.
But so long as his 'court' clings to pretensions of 'legal' authority, which it doesn't have, it undermines its own credibility.
It becomes a sideshow that people can ignore.
And who does that benefit?
Not any of us.
It's worth noting that the 'sheriffs' in question have no legal authority to detain anyone.
And the 'warrants' were issued by the 'International Common Law Court', which has no legal authority and no enforcement authority.
It would be like if Project Avalon set up a court and then appointed sheriffs and issued warrants for people's arrests.
We should be under no illusions that this 'court' has any teeth whatsoever.
Do I say this because I'm happy about it?
NO.
It would be great if there were justice in the world.
But let's not kid ourselves here, folks.
That's only half true, the fact is all the "government officials that you think have authority don't either within the context that you are defining...
But that doesn't stop millions of people from lining up and ending up in jail...
Doesn't stop the killings...
Fact of the matter is WE ARE LIVING UNDER AN ILLUSION, including yourself...
ie. what you are saying is meaningless because you have left out the context to make it meaningful...
In this mind boggling Talkshoe, EX ATTORNEY "Debra" drops bombshell after bombshell, exactly what I have been saying...
We are considered idiots in their eyes... Cattle to be milked and slaughtered for their enrichment....
I should put this in Driver's License Thread (about exposing the illusion and fraud of corporations pretending to be our governments)
They are corporations using every deception in order to mislead us into thinking we have to kiss their arses,
of course you know what happens when you try to explain this stuff to the ignorant masses...
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=877230&cmd=apop
Rod Class' Page
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc
Looking at some of the comments, no wonder so many are weak and powerless, you have resigned yourself to your own birdcage. It's called Learned Helplessness. And it's a psychological condition. Kevin Annett has moved mountains, it's a shame that a world full of 7 billion people would emasculate themselves, of their own consent... :(
sigma6
25th July 2014, 16:12
Lol no frustration, I am quite resigned to the pragmatic realities...
but I'd suggest listening to the Talkshoe audio... Kevin Annet does have authority... People who can't see trust interpretation are missing what is going on... and moral authority might be one way of describing it, but the way you are phrasing it, it's a "popularity" contest, and I get that, but it's is quite more than that... Ironically the way the "fake" authorities that you think have "real" authority get it, is precisely by keeping people misinformed, just like what you are doing. (you are not alone, you have company in the millions and millions...) And that is the basis of their "fake" authority, your assumption that theirs is "real" and your inability to realize what Kevin is actually doing.
In all sincerity, you should check out the audio first. I just came across it, and posted it because it is mind blowing in its implications. It is not based on theory but inside information, from an actual Attorney. I don't think what you are still being vague about can't hold a candle to that. Although millions share your assumptions. What she speaks of has a basis in principles that are universal and foundational. (ie. not going away) And the people are waking up are now going from hundreds and hundreds to thousands and thousands.
It's starts out a little rough, she is a very gritty, street smart New Yorker, but by the 2nd hour, it starts getting into the hard realities. So I am saying that everything you think you know is baseless, misinterpreted, you have been fooled into believing it is true. This has been done very systematically and on purpose. But there is also a way out. What people "accept as normal today" would have been considered psychologically dysfunctional even 15, 20 years ago.
I was watching that Al Jazeera video being advertised, about how the FBI hires informants and arrests suspected terrorists... what struck me is how all these people in the US who are making money off this, mentally sound like a bunch of teenage punks lying through their teeth, that lack even basic high school education, was palpable. There is something terrible happening in the US... it's shocking...
What you think is an authority IS LITERALLY a for profit corporation listed on Dunn and Brad Street "posing" as a lawful authority. And you have got to learn how to tell them that you don't want to do business with them (sexual intercourse, according to THEIR LEGAL DICTIONARY) In the audio she hints at the occult aspect but decides to leave it out... this isn't metaphorical, it is the ACTUAL model. A game if you will, the rules by which they operate. And it is ALL based on DECEPTION and can ONLY operate so long as you remain ignorant to it.
Also what you are saying is naive in light of the very real context of Ratzy stepping down, an "unprecedented" event that hasn't happened in 600 YEARS, and Adolfo Pachon has already publicly suggested he is resigning... !! (don't tell me this is a coincidence...)
People, the time has arrived (the age of revelation, increase in information, zero point, apocalypse, "the 7 bad years", etc) Interestingly Debra, also mentioned something that has been floating around in the Commercial Redemption movement, and that is there will be changes preventing people from "getting out of the system"... a "lock down" in effect, maybe another couple years... technically I don't think it will ever be impossible, but it is clearly the "game" is getting more convoluted.
Want to change the world, want to take the silver spoon away from them, learn to exercise your rights. You can't pay someone else to do it... (notwithstanding you are excessively wealthy... but that is not the game we want to play)
MargueriteBee
25th July 2014, 17:19
I didn't know what a chancery court was:
http://thelawdictionary.org/court-of-chancery/
A court having the jurisdiction of a chancellor; a court administering equity and proceeding according to the forms and principles of equity. In England, prior to the judicature acts, the style of the court possessing the largest equitable powers and jurisdiction was the “high court of chancery.” In some of the United States, the title “court of chancery” is applied to a court possessing general equity powers, distinct from the courts of common law. Parmeter v. Bourne, 8 Wash. 45, 35 Pac. 5SO. The terms “equity” and “chancery,” “court of equity” and “court of chancery,” are constantly used as synonymous in the United States. It is presumed that this custom arises from the circumstance that the equity jurisdiction which is exercised by the courts of the various states is assimilated to that possessed by the English courts of chancery. Indeed, in some of the states it is made identical there with by statute, so far as conformable to our institutions. Bouvier.
Law Dictionary: What is COURT OF CHANCERY? definition of COURT OF CHANCERY (Black's Law Dictionary)
linksplatinum
25th July 2014, 17:48
The context of what this topic is referring to (hence the authority), is about the detachment of the system towards human sovereignty, and the corporate illusion of their laws which have no bearing on the individual, unless you allow for it to perpetuate in your ignorance. This is what sigma6 and I were talking about when we were discussing the teachings of "Kate of Gaia" and other's who have broken the fraud of the so-called "power".
This should keep one busy for a while... STUDY HARD, WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER... It's all up to YOU
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72997-A-deeper-understanding-of-Common-Law-and-the-Strawman-conspiracy
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70728-What-The-US-Government-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-The-Driver-s-License&p=851660&highlight=kate+gaia#post851660
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72616-Kate-of-Gaia-Babylon-Is-Fallen-Free-Yourself-of-the-CROWN
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69538-Declaring-one-self-sovereign-to-Pope-and-from-Rome-too-funny&p=810642&highlight=kate+gaia#post810642
Mayan shaman mantra:
I empower in order to question authority
Commanding fearlessness
I seal the output of intelligence, with the overtone of radiance
I am guided by the power of flowering
I am a galactic activation portal
Enter through me...
sheme
25th July 2014, 18:02
With out information- facts and proof/evidence I can't condone any "peoples common law judgement and sentence" and I could not be party to any lynch mob.
That's how Hitler got away with the extermination of a nation -they were judged by his prejudice.
Brakeman
25th July 2014, 18:08
Don't hold your breath!
;)
sigma6
25th July 2014, 18:40
With out information- facts and proof/evidence I can't condone any "peoples common law judgement and sentence" and I could not be party to any lynch mob.
That's how Hitler got away with the extermination of a nation -they were judged by his prejudice.
Kevin Annet is wrong because Hitler killed a bunch of people? Never considered that argument. Even if we knew the REAL truth of WWII...
But that does highlight the problem. There is so much false information that people take for granted. And so much fundamental information that is hidden. People don't even understand basic logic, scientific thought process or philosophy any more. They're just "big" words today.
It's kind of like arguing whether truth is a universal fundamental value or not. Makes for a great philosophical exercise of mind. Some will point to liars who seem to have wealth and power and call that proof that truth is relative and secondary, and even a made up concept, etc. But deeper thinkers will know this is shallow and superficial thinking. The fact that millions lack philosophical fundamentals doesn't add any more weight to it (just more chaos) In fact a lot of what is happening in the world today is quite literally because there are so many people struggling to maintain the world in this state of denial.
The very fact that there are people that would even ask the question, is to me a sign of how far we have fallen.
TargeT
25th July 2014, 18:53
It's starts out a little rough, she is a very gritty street, smart New Yorker, but by the 2nd hour, it starts getting into the hard realities. So I am saying that everything you think you know is baseless, misinterpreted, you have been fooled into believing it is true. This has been done very systematically and on purpose. But there is also a way out. What people "accept as normal today" would have been considered psychologically dysfunctional even 15, 20 years ago.
It seems that what is needed here is a comprehensive enough, yet simplistic enough info graphic, or dissertation or brief video primer... something to cover the "1 mile wide, 1 inch deep" in an entertaining / engaging way that is also very believable.
a PR offering, our own agenda focused propaganda as it were.
maybe a movie on the topic, or short quasi fictional series of episodic "dramatizations" that will entertain and educate on the topic (we have seen a few attempts on this, but more are needed).
The faster and wider the dissemination the better.
With out information- facts and proof/evidence I can't condone any "peoples common law judgement and sentence" and I could not be party to any lynch mob.
That's how Hitler got away with the extermination of a nation -they were judged by his prejudice.
I'm not prepared to completely commit to hitler being anywhere close to what modern history teaches... Yes Hitler had a VERY anti "jew" mentality; but if you look at WW1 and the going-ons in Germany you'll find that the jewish banking and money handling institutions were being ousted, exactly as they should be today....
and of course we can get into the holocaust questions... the extreme lack of dead bodies, the missing markers for chemical agents being used...
Hitler, Nazi's and the Holocaust are the armor of the modern banking family cartels... they have made it illegal in most the modern world to even criticize them (anti-Semitic is the rally cry there) and based on very shaky historical situations when you sit down and do some leg work.
There for I reject any use of hitler's actions as a warning against what we should do now... unless you feel you have done the topic due diligence and can say other wise.
I would not be surprised if "hitlers prejudice" mirrors my own trepidations and concerns about the jewish families that seem pervasive in the tyrannical and oppressive banking oligarchs that are strangling the world today.... with a few twists and lies anyone can be made to be hitler... especially if you control all media outlets and governments.
Basically this: question everything, always... ESPECIALLY what you think you "KNOW" like "hitler" and what happened during that period.
any information you reference that you haven't personally researched is now suspect... we have learned too much to not question that type of "knowledge".
sigma6
25th July 2014, 20:24
It's starts out a little rough, she is a very gritty street, smart New Yorker, but by the 2nd hour, it starts getting into the hard realities. So I am saying that everything you think you know is baseless, misinterpreted, you have been fooled into believing it is true. This has been done very systematically and on purpose. But there is also a way out. What people "accept as normal today" would have been considered psychologically dysfunctional even 15, 20 years ago.
It seems that what is needed here is a comprehensive enough, yet simplistic enough info graphic, or dissertation or brief video primer... something to cover the "1 mile wide, 1 inch deep" in an entertaining / engaging way that is also very believable.
a PR offering, our own agenda focused propaganda as it were.
maybe a movie on the topic, or short quasi fictional series of episodic "dramatizations" that will entertain and educate on the topic (we have seen a few attempts on this, but more are needed).
The faster and wider the dissemination the better.
I thought you were going to criticize it Target (and I was going to have to straighten you out!... LOL...)
But that IS a good question... and it is true. Sometimes it feels like I am only teasing others with information. And for that, I can only suggest people go to my "What the Government isn't telling you" thread (Conspiracy) and find the post with my "hidden" link.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70728-What-The-US-Government-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-The-Driver-s-License&p=832198&viewfull=1#post832198
That is the latest link that connects all the "trust interpretation topics that I can still remember. In those posts, I give specific definitions, explain fundamental concepts, Give examples of real experiences and real court cases which clearly demonstrate this "hidden" aspect. I linked about a dozen plus.
The fact is, I and others like Grip and many others have been on this path for many years. I will admit I have been at it going on 7 years coming up, and I will admit, I had a huge success (prematurely and by "luck" or "intuition") then plateaued for several years and it has only started making sense to me in the last couple of years... So there is only so much I can articulate and post. Today the focus is on translating understanding into specific applications and learning as much about trust in general which will go on for many years I have no doubt. (the final frontier)
Entertaining videos is totally beyond my scope, but if I had the resources I would love to do that!... in the mean time I can only share what little I know and understand. The reason it takes so long is myriad. It encompasses hidden history, religion, law, secret societies. The occult references I make are literal not metaphorical. (Think Vatican) Metaphorically it IS the MATRIX. Also because this knowledge is, for all practical intents and purposes "secret". Secret in terms of its subtly and secret because it is not taught in public schools or institutions.
Secret Societies like to keep this information from us. (knowledge is power) Lawyers make an oath to NEVER give out certain information, even to their wives. The Temple Bar and Law Societies operate like Secret Societies. The information had to be "deduced" from interpreting thousands of court cases, (many sacrificed their material livelihood, lost cars, homes, thousands of dollars, experienced jail time, etc. I'm talking REAL sacrifices. Anyone serious especially in the earlier periods will have experienced some attack or loss. Mostly from their own mistakes, experimenting IS risky. And partly because when they realize what you are up to (ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL...) they freak out! There are many observations and stories of Judges and prosecutors going white with fear (you are getting too close!) I especially focus on collecting and studying "anomalous" court cases. As they reveal the most insight in my opinion and expose the hidden aspect. (Which I include many in my examples. Also, many "Gurus" either didn't share the most important aspects or didn't know themselves.
Jordan Maxwell and Roger Elvick were some of the earliest names. Winston Shrout put a Name and Face on the movement in early 2000 and has profited handsomely I would imagine. Christian Walters came on the scene in January 2009. And I believe that was a major turning point. I clearly remember there were two major topics that were missing (or I didn't understand) And that was the concept of private and public and trust. Or what I call trust interpretation.
I remember hitting all the gurus I was in contact with when I started listening to CW... He was the first person, apart from Winston, that appeared to have a truly fundamental interpretation (what I was looking for) At the time I was studying "qualifying" signatures ie. meaning of by: for: per: "without prejudice" "vi coactus" "all rights reserved" "non assumpsit" etc. CW proposed the first model showing the relationship between the 3 major definitions of trust (ie. expressed, resulting and constructive, Winston's A4V, and the signatures... I was hooked, and saw right away this was the missing link.
I never doubted it, and even "pushed" it on several 'Gurus' I was corresponding with at the time) I could see it... but everyone one else was vehemently opposed. Today, the more I learn the more it has held true. Today Winston has produced DVDs on Trust, and pretty much everyone who is pushing the envelope is now "trying" to factor it into their interpretation in one way or another, even if they don't realize it...
It is the only way to make sense of what is going on. I mention all this because, although many have been at it for over 20 years, 15 years, 10 years, (it's like learning a second language.) But today now that we KNOW what we are looking for. If you apply the right strategy, you can speed up the whole process of learning within a few years. This is really happening in real time. There is NO escaping trust interpretation. It is the LAW that everything else revolves around. The bedrock. The key. The basis of philosophy, contract, law, admiralty, commerce, etc.
If anyone wants more information they can contact me privately. I can only share what I have... but I would suggest they look at my "secret link" go through all the posts. If you like what you are reading, make a list of questions... and contact me privately. I enjoyed posting on Avalon, as it really developed a lot of ideas, by posting it "quasi publicly" forced me to discipline my thinking and organize some ideas. i.e. comprehension and expression are two separate brain functions! And finally I do have some things I don't think I would post here... because it would attract more confusion then help people...
ghostrider
25th July 2014, 23:13
What does concern me is , the worst case for earth in the third millennium is triggered when a pope no longer resides in Rome ... All the heat about the corruption of the Vatican could force the pope to leave Rome and not return hence , setting in motion = The words of Henoch ( Enoch) ... you owe it to yourself to read the long prophecies , you will know a possible future of our Earth/time ...
TargeT
26th July 2014, 01:29
I thought you were going to criticize it Target (and I was going to have to straighten you out!... LOL...)
I was a part of the Liberty Bell system in Alaska and supported the common law courts there, unfortunately that all ended when some very shady 3 letter agency actions arrested the "leader" of that movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWqTEWB-aM). After that my interest in law fell away unfortunately.
But I think the 'time has come' for this information to emerge (as you speak of in your post)
Entertaining videos is totally beyond my scope, but if I had the resources I would love to do that!... in the mean time I can only share what little I know and understand. The reason it takes so long is myriad. It encompasses hidden history, religion, law, secret societies. The occult references I make are literal not metaphorical. (Think Vatican) Metaphorically it IS the MATRIX. Also because this knowledge is, for all practical intents and purposes "secret". Secret in terms of its subtly and secret because it is not taught in public schools or institutions.
Secret Societies like to keep this information from us. (knowledge is power) Lawyers make an oath to NEVER give out certain information, even to their wives. The Temple Bar and Law Societies operate like Secret Societies. The information had to be "deduced" from interpreting thousands of court cases, (many sacrificed their material livelihood, lost cars, homes, thousands of dollars, experienced jail time, etc. I'm talking REAL sacrifices. Anyone serious especially in the earlier periods will have experienced some attack or loss. Mostly from their own mistakes, experimenting IS risky. And partly because when they realize what you are up to (ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL...) they freak out! There are many observations and stories of Judges and prosecutors going white with fear (you are getting too close!) I especially focus on collecting and studying "anomalous" court cases. As they reveal the most insight in my opinion and expose the hidden aspect. (Which I include many in my examples. Also, many "Gurus" either didn't share the most important aspects or didn't know themselves.
Sounds like a very easy path from what you are currently researching to a dramatized fiction... you have the frame work, just need the sparkles and eye candy and other bits of "sugar" to make the medicine go down ;) (or look for someone who can assist with that)
But today now that we KNOW what we are looking for. If you apply the right strategy, you can speed up the whole process of learning within a few years. This is really happening in real time. There is NO escaping trust interpretation. It is the LAW that everything else revolves around. The bedrock. The key. The basis of philosophy, contract, law, admiralty, commerce, etc.
If anyone wants more information they can contact me privately. I can only share what I have... but I would suggest they look at my "secret link" go through all the posts. If you like what you are reading, make a list of questions... and contact me privately. I enjoyed posting on Avalon, as it really developed a lot of ideas, by posting it "quasi publicly" forced me to discipline my thinking and organize some ideas. i.e. comprehension and expression are two separate brain functions! And finally I do have some things I don't think I would post here... because it would attract more confusion then help people...
so it sounds like you already know the crux of the issue, or have found the key topics to focus on.. and are facing resistance from typical human behaviors (strongly held beliefs, when challenged trigger a "fight/flight/freeze" response, which when indulged (which it nearly always is) literally makes you react as if you are physically in danger) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o)... This is why I say do not confront it head on, entertain and then show how the "entertainment" was/is based on reality and offer a few references to start the research ball rolling.
Hollywood does it to us all the time, I don't think its a bad idea to use some of the same tools that oppress/suppress for the opposite.
of the myriad of topics available to study this is one that is very practical, yet the stacked programming that has to be overcome seems to cause only a small group individuals to be interested in it ; I'm advocating a different route to breaking through that programming.
sigma6
26th July 2014, 02:38
so it sounds like you already know the crux of the issue, or have found the key topics to focus on.. and are facing resistance from typical human behaviors (strongly held beliefs, when challenged trigger a "fight/flight/freeze" response, which when indulged (which it nearly always is) literally makes you react as if you are physically in danger)... This is why I say do not confront it head on, entertain and then show how the "entertainment" was/is based on reality and offer a few references to start the research ball rolling.
Hollywood does it to us all the time, I don't think its a bad idea to use some of the same tools that oppress/suppress for the opposite.
of the myriad of topics available to study this is one that is very practical, yet the stacked programming that has to be overcome seems to cause only a small group individuals to be interested in it ; I'm advocating a different route to breaking through that programming.
It's not so much a resistance of that kind, although that issue does crop up and can be very annoying, but it's a matter of finesse and diplomacy, also sometimes we are just plain doing it wrong and need to take stock of the situation. So to that I would say yes and no. It's like this, when you get it right, the doors open like that (a snap) ...of this I have faith. When it doesn't work, I don't call fraud, (they're screwing me!) I'm way past that... It's not productive and not my style. I like trouble shooting, tinkering, this is an exercise in decoding and correctly interpreting what is going on. It's like a working computer, 90% of the time it's the operator. Or like all government processes, if not done correctly, it gets sent back with highlighter underlining exactly where you didn't fill it out correctly, etc. So when we understand certain processes, we have seen certain outcomes. Yet there are different interpretations right now, why these results come about. I personally think my interpretation is the most comprehensive and explains the most outcomes, but I have to always maintain the possibility of correcting and updating. There is always refinement of process.
For example I just made a huge correction just a few days ago. I had interpreted that we must always refer to our property right (which itself I define as "right to use" or "access") as an "interest" in order to avoid saying "ownership"... which we must avoid at all costs. We must avoid legal ownership in our words or actions. (you don't want to lie to your friends and tell them you "own" a house you rent...) However I have just found out that "interest" can also refer to legal interest and equitable interest, I totally overlooked this. When I retrospected back to a prior experience, I realized I had said "... grantor with special interest.." I can now see that by using the word "special" I dodged a bullet and prevented a constructive trust presumption on their part. I have learned since that special is word that can make reference to trust related issues. So all future reference to property not only has to express that I don't claim legal ownership, but also not legal interest either! I must refer to my equitable or special interest. Also it must be done in the private. As the public doesn't see equitable title in the 'fiction based' public. Winston used to refer documents to the CID. Since they knew how to deal with those types of documents. (wrap your head around that one... lol)
There is a need to dot your "i's" and cross your "t's" . He who claims trust must operate in trust. Otherwise you are seen as being "double minded" and that's when they call for psych evals (they are trying to tell you actually your process is wrong, back away...) So I think I understand the principle well. It's a matter of expressing your trust. It is already there, 90% of what people are doing is the cause of things backfiring.
For example, there is one case of a man who was in jail for selling dairy products. With the help of an ex lawyer (who was later attacked and jailed himself for breaking ranks) his wife properly filed the long and short form certificates into the case the morning of the hearing, when he came out and they called the NAME three times he didn't respond. According to section 46 of the Vital Statistics Act. "a certificate... or a copy of a registration purporting to be issued ... signed by the ... Deputy Registrar General... or on which the signature... is reproduced by any method is admissible in any court in Ontario as proof, in absence of evidence to the contrary, of the facts so certified, and it is not necessary to prove the signature or official position of person by whom the certificate or certified copy purports to be signed."
The implications of this are massive, when this guy didn't respond, they had "NO evidence to the contrary" The only evidence they had was a document which was "a proof of the facts so certified". Irrefutable proof in fact. He was released. They had what they needed to settle the account.
Of note:
The court was opened in a non-admiralty jurisdiction "God Save the Queen"
was announced & the judge entered the court with NO ROBE.
The Crown actually said that they cannot proceed without jurisdiction and
they have had no success in getting George Hugh to consent to being
BOTHWELL, GEORGE as he did not answer to the name nor would he cross the
"imaginary line" [the gate]
The Crown also said this:
"This is a well crafted Ideological Subversion of the Justice system"
All charges withdrawn by Judge Thompson
It is very hard to misinterpret such a black and white case. This fits my interpretation to a tee. They knew who the liable party was. I have long argued that the potential trust is already in place. We only need adjust our perception and understanding and accept it. (as in accept it for value... O.o And of course none of this would make sense to a casual observer without some kind of trust interpretation.
So there are issues as to how to do this process in a more proactive way, that incorporates all of the interpretation as it is understood, and to do it in harmony with their rules of procedure, etc. i.e. it must be done with knowledge and clear intention. Not like you're guessing. We need to identify who the parties are, to contact as fiduciary trustees, how to create and present the paperwork, etc...
Dennis Leahy
26th July 2014, 02:53
Here's a video that's floating around. I have to assume that a court without authority from the bad guys cannot touch the bad guys (which is why The Reset Button exists - so that we US citizens actually gain control of the US first, then ...)
But anyway, here's a video that may be on-topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dkEj4_45E
Dennis
sigma6
27th July 2014, 10:05
...
ANOTHER "NUT SHELL" ON THE BC CESTUI QUE TRUST
I can tell I lost everybody. Expected. Folks this isn't something you can learn in one weekend (although I have gone to dozens and dozens and dozens of "weekend seminars". But start with this. You have a birth certificate. The best thing to "contemplate" is what it says on the back of B.Cs in the UK.
"This extract is evidence of an event recorded in a register of births. It is not evidence of the identity of the person presenting it"
There is a reason why they are telling you what it is NOT, as opposed to telling you what it is... That is because the part they are not telling you is "PRIVATE"!!! (read between the lines. Want another example. Who in their right mind would explain something by saying it is proof "of the fact so certified" ??? Again is it not self evident that they are purposely avoiding specifically telling you what they are referring to? You have to think and ask yourself WHY? Why the secrecy? Why the avoidance of just coming out and saying what it is. Are they truly evil (sort of, just "overly sophisticated") Or do they have a fiduciary obligation to do things a certain way????? (Bingo!)
The trust interpretation is private. To exercise and take advantage of that trust. You have to pay by putting in your time and educating yourself on whatever trust you can find, or paying for private courses or whatever. But the trust is there. It's what Winston was pointing at, and what Christian Walters spent 5 years talking about. Granted it's not an easy topic, but it's as important as reading, writing, and knowing the constitution (if you are an American) And it might be the most important and only choice for many people in the years to come, and it definitely can change your life. And it is also a powerful key for decoding everything that is going around you, that "seemingly" doesn't make sense.
How to see this:
Think of that B.C. "like a corporation" It is not exactly a corporation, but it IS LIKE a corporation (it is that, and so much more) Second, understand when you register anything in the public. You are splitting the Title to that thing. Legal title is being held by the registrar, you maintain equitable title. AND the owner is the "corporation" not you. The point of all this is because it had to be set up to recognize your SUPERIOR title. (equitable title) And at the same time create an entity that THEY could manage and control, should you decide that you didn't want to (or more realistically you didn't even understand existed!)
Consider the following excerpt from "Beneficial Ownership and the Income Tax - Catharine Brown" (the "trick" here is just replace "land" with "B.C.")
When one considers the simplicity of this method of splitting legal title from beneficial enjoyment of property, it is not surprising that the cestui que trust, or beneficiary, came to be thought of as the real owner—or, as sometimes stated in modern terminology, the “beneficial owner”—of the property. However, the right of the beneficiary in equity was primarily a right against the trustee to enforce the terms of the trust.14 The transparency of the beneficiary’s right, and the property to which it led, is obvious in the transfer of land to a trustee in fee simple for the benefit of an identified beneficiary. It is from this simple structure that the concept of beneficial owner can most clearly be traced. The cestui que trust was considered the beneficial owner in equity. The trustee was considered the legal owner at common law.
BUT... it was also done in a way like a trap. If you choose, you can continue to think you are the legal title holder. And if you do that, they will treat you with "kid gloves". Even though technically you are breaching the trust. Due to your incompetence, ignorance, etc. i.e. your intent (which is very important in equity, trust) wasn't to breach. So the "punishment" is very "soft." They will treat you "as if" you are the liable party. SURPRISE you get to pay the fine! That's right even though you were covered (because you were born or have your citizenship) and they have the record and you (whether you realize it or not) pledged, what I define as, your lifetime of labour, energy, output productivity, whatever... ie. measured as an actuarial value of your lifetime of labour (ie. it's just an average) . This is essentially X amount of money that the Banksters calculated based on the "event of your birth registration information" and "loaned" to the government to put into circulation. Anyhow getting back to the main point, when you incorrectly chose to believe you are the legal title holder, they fastened the liability that was on your corporation onto YOU! That is called a "constructive trust" (I have defined all these terms in previous posts)
But what the hell I will lay it out here again... but focus on how simple the express trust definition is... and carefully note how de son tort trustee makes DIRECT REFERENCE to constructive trust IN THE DEFINITION, because without that context. You will not understand what the Constructive trust definition is getting at.
Expressed Trusts vs. Those Created By Operation of Law:
a. Express trusts
An expressed trust is created as a result of the manifestation of an intention, by a person or persons having the power to do so, to create the relationship that the law recognizes as a trust. "Trust" terminology need not be used or even known to the persons involved. The required "manifestation" of intent may be found in the settlor's oral or written words, conduct, or a combination of these, viewed in an overall context.
(Most matters discussed in this Summary primarily involve express trusts of the active variety, private or charitable, testamentary or inter vivos, revocable, or irrevocable.)
(skipped b. resulting trust for now)
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(Gilbert’s Law Summaries: Trusts - (2008)
c. Constructive trusts
A constructive trust is a remedial device imposed by a court of equity to prevent a person who has obtained property by wrongful conduct or unjust enrichment from deriving the benefits thereof.
[consistent with de sont tort trustee ?]
(Black’s Law 4th ed, Pg 1681)
Constructive trust
A trust raised by construction of law, or arising by operation of law, as distinguished from an express trust. Wherever the circumstances of a transaction are such that the person who takes the legal estate in property cannot also enjoy the beneficial interest without necessarily violating some established principle of equity, the court will immediately raise a constructive trust, and fasten it upon the conscience of the legal owner so as to convert him into a trustee, for the parties who in equity are entitled to the beneficial enjoyment.
De son tort trustee:
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/de-son-tort-trustee.html
Person who is not a party to a trust agreement (and has no authority as a trustee) but meddles with the trust property or takes upon himself or herself to carry out acts characteristic of the office of trustee. Instead of prosecuting this person, the courts may hold him or her to be a constructive trustee and, thereby, impose the liabilities of an actual trustee in accounting for his or her acts. 'De son tort' is Latin for, by his (her) own wrongdoing.
[Question: If we are having trusteeship imposed on us via a "remedial device" Who do you think the "actual trustee" should have been or was originally?]
Again, if you think this is BS... ask yourself why all of a sudden is the Government allowing a FLOOD of immigrants into the country breaking every so called "hard and fast rule" (that you think are the "real rules") THERE IS NO EXPLANATION, except what I am suggesting, through the immigration process, the BCs of those people are going to be monetized, ie. bonded, securitized and fractionalized into billions and billions and billions of printable pieces of paper that will be "loaned" to the government in exchange for the right to tax them (ad infinitum via the exponential function (i.e. evergrowing curve) of interest).
The Federal Reserve and the IRS ARE NOT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. THEY ARE PRIVATE BANKING FAMILIES. MAFIA!!!!! HELLOO! YOUR TRUSTEES ARE MAFIA. (regaining composure... that is the problem, not the system. That it is operated by Mafia. Think about it, Mafia trustee is NOT good.) In any event, they want people who are going to come in and do manual work (measurable productivity) and have babies that they can TAX... simple!
Ok, getting back again... The collateral for the loan to the government is the RIGHT to collect "taxes" against the loan. Which is why Income Tax is really just paying interest on a loan. Again in this "context" They are doing us a big "favour"... OK, all this isn't important really, but to show you there is a complete model from birth to record of event as basis of calculating something of value to creation bonds and securities to how money gets created into existence to what role the banks and government are playing to where income taxes in particular come from. Simple! (lol) (search MONEY is DEBT)
Point is if you get that BIG PICTURE. You would understand who the REAL CREDITORS ARE. And WHY they had to set it up in a way to "allow" you to access, what is RIGHTFULLY YOURS!!! BUT THEY SET ALL THAT UP IN THE BACKGROUND. What we will call "PRIVATE". That is why it's called Trust. That is why when you want to set off a "liability in the public" that was really placed against the "taxpayer" (who is really a corporation that you have a certificate to, that operates like a PERSON which is really just a legal word for a type of "sole corporation". That is why you have the "option" (depending on your level of understanding...) to offset that liability by telling them to take it from the funds that they created from the money that was loaned against the B.C. that was based on a record of an event, that was based on YOU being born. That is pretty much what Winston Shrout meant when he said that everything is "prepaid". (there, I just saved you a couple thousand dollars!)
And that is also why it is a "private process" that can only be done by trustees that have access to the treasury. Banks have access to the treasury. Did you know that every courthouse has a Treasury Account they can access? The IRS obviously has access to the treasury. That is the gist... That is the basis of all this... If you understand trust. When something is made private. The Trustee has a fiduciary obligation not to talk about it. Why we in the public are always crying fraud this and fraud that, because they have a "higher principle", some pre-existing trust (first in time, first in line) to maintain some trust... The CAFR funds come to mind, but that is another story.
This is why it takes a little while to learn. You have to learn some definitions. You have to learn stuff that could have been taught to you in public school. Which should be taught in public school. Which we could very easily argue and demand we have a right to have it taught in public schools. In the next post. I will give an example, and logically prove, how the rich use TRUST LAW all the time, right in our faces, and WE STILL CAN'T SEE IT.
And one more piece if you made it this far... That Birth Certificate It is NOT YOU. It is a certificate to a "form of property" the legal title which is HELD (not outright owned, as I just explained!) but HELD by the Government. And the Definitions of that are the following...
(INTERPRETATION; Definitions - Securities Act R.S.O. 1990, c. S-5)
1. (1) In this Act, "security" includes,
(b) any document constituting evidence of title to or interest in the capital, assets, property, profits, earnings or royalties of any person or company,
(d) any document constituting evidence of an option, subscription or other interest in or to a security,
(S.2 Criminal Code of Canada, R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
"property" includes
(a) real and personal property of every description and deeds and instruments relating to or evidencing the title or right to property, or giving a right to recover or receive money or goods.
(Pocket Criminal Code 2009 - Section 2 Definitions, pg 6)
"every one", "person" and "owner", and similar expressions,
include Her Majesty and an organization;
(The Canadian Dictionary of Law:)
PERSON. "persons are of two classes only---natural persons and legal persons. A natural person is a human being that has capacity for rights or duties. A legal person is anything to which the law gives a legal or fictitious existence and personality with capacity for rights and duties. The Only legal person known to our law is the corporation----the body corporate"
You see when they create a liability, it is actually their liability. By holding the legal title they try to trick you into coming into the court so they can get you to breach and invoke a constructive trust and thereby transfer their liability onto you. There is no dispute that they have legal title. What people don't understand is that doesn't give them absolute control. Because they are the legal title holders. They need your "energy" to keep themselves alive (big fat juicy parasites)
It's similar to: if you knew you had an insurance policy. And there was an accident. The insurance company might still contact you and discuss how you wanted to settle the claim. You see, there are options. But either way you pay. Unfortunately we have to "love" them too. You can tell them that you are AUTHORIZING settlement of THEIR LIABILITY. (if you have true understanding...) Likewise, they will get it from the trust (money of account), or they will get it from your pocket (money of exchange). The toughest route is to try and challenge them and negate the charges altogether. And refusing to is dishonour, and contemptible. You are being a "delinquent creditor. And remember why we are the Creditors. Because we all pledged our "actuarial value of lifetime of labour" via the whole BC paperwork process. THAT is the original SOURCE of ALL value. The BC are as Winston Shrout said "transmitting utilities" That transfer all wealth into a public pool. IN TRUST.
That's why we don't own anything. The PERSON owns it. And you got a certificate for that PERSON. In a simplified way, they just added a lot of "steps" between you and your portion of the "securitized" pledge.
And 'of course' this all has to be done within the context of Trust. Private Trust. If people understood this, we could solve ALL the problems in the world, because much of the world is run on Power of Attorney. Every time you put a signature on a piece of paper (you created a property) and gave it to someone else to hold. You pretty much gave them unlimited Power of Attorney, it's ironic, they usually provide you with a list of things they do with your information, because we are that incompetent. But regards your "information" YOU have absolute right to how it can be used (re: access to accounts in the background) Think about the implications of that alone. What would you do differently if you knew and understood that?
Links for my own reference:
Previous:
Re: What The US Government Doesn't Want You To Know About The Driver's License
WHAT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS AND ISN'T (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70728-What-The-US-Government-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-The-Driver-s-License&p=832198&viewfull=1#post832198)
Following:
DHS Funded Report: Sovereign Citizens Greatest Threat To U.S.
EXAMPLES OF PRACTICAL APPLICATION ARE COMING OUT (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73599-DHS-Funded-Report-Sovereign-Citizens-Greatest-Threat-To-U.S.&p=862116&viewfull=1#post862116)
gripreaper
27th July 2014, 17:06
Trust interpretation is the most important thing we can learn. It is how we can break the energetic curse on humanity. Thanks sigma6 for your unrelenting efforts in bringing this forward. Here is a brief outline from the beginning:
In 1302 Pope Boniface issued his infamous Papal Bull Unam Sanctam––the first Express Trust. He claimed control over the whole planet which made him “King of the world”. Unam Sanctam is one of the most frightening documents of history and the one most quoted as the primary document of the popes claiming their global power. It is an express trust deed. The last line reads: “Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” It is not only the first trust deed in history but also the largest trust ever conceived, as it claims the whole planet and everything on it, conveyed in trust.
The 1st Crown of Crown Land
Pope Boniface VIII was the first leader in history to create the concept of a Trust, but the first Testamentary Trust, through a deed and will creating a Deceased Estate, was created by Pope Nicholas V in 1455, through the Papal Bull Romanus Pontifex. This is only one of three (3) papal bulls to include the line with the incipit “For a perpetual remembrance.” This Bull had the effect of conveying the right of use of the land as Real Property, from the Express Trust Unam Sanctam, to the control of the Pontiff and his successors in perpetuity. Hence, all land is claimed as “crown land”. This 1st Crown is represented by the 1st Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born. It deprives us of all beneficial entitlements and rights on the land.
The 2nd Crown of the Commonwealth
The second Crown was created in 1481 with the papal bull Aeterni Regis, meaning “Eternal Crown”, by Sixtus IV, being only the 2nd of three papal bulls as deeds of testamentary trusts.
This Papal Bull created the “Crown of Aragon”, later known as the Crown of Spain, and is the highest sovereign and highest steward of all Roman Slaves subject to the rule of the Roman Pontiff. Spain lost the crown in 1604 when it was granted to King James I of England by Pope Paul V after the successful passage of the “Union of Crowns”, or Commonwealth, in 1605 after the false flag operation of the Gunpowder Plot. The Crown was finally lost by England in 1975, when it was returned to Spain and King Carlos I, where it remains to this day. This 2nd Crown is represented by the 2nd cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born and, by the sale of the birth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation, depriving us of ownership of our flesh and condemning us to perpetual servitude, as a Roman person, or slave
The 3rd Crown of the Ecclesiastical See
The third Crown was created in 1537 by Paul III, through the papal bull Convocation, also meant to open the Council of Trent. It is the third and final testamentary deed and will of a testamentary trust, set up for the claiming of all “lost souls”, lost to the See. The Venetians assisted in the creation of the 1st Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540, to use this papal bull as the basis of Ecclesiastical authority of Henry VIII. This Crown was secretly granted to England in the collection and “reaping” of lost souls. The Crown was lost in 1816, due to the deliberate bankruptcy of England, and granted to the Temple Bar which became known as the Crown Bar, or simply the Crown. The Bar Associations have since been responsible for administering the “reaping” of the souls of the lost and damned, including the registration and collection of Baptismal certificates representing the souls collected by the Vatican and stored in its vaults.
This 3rd Crown is represented by the 3rd Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is baptized. It is the parents’ grant of the Baptismal certificate––title to the soul––to the church or Registrar. Thus, without legal title over one’s own soul, we will be denied legal standing and will be treated as things––cargo without souls––upon which the BAR is now legally able to enforce Maritime law.
A Cestui Que Vie Trust is a fictional concept. It is a Temporary Testamentary Trust, first created during the reign of Henry VIII of England through the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540 and updated by Charles II, through the CQV Act of 1666, wherein an Estate may be effected for the Benefit of a Person presumed lost or abandoned at “sea” and therefore assumed “dead” after seven (7) years. Additional presumptions, by which such a Trust may be formed, were added in later statutes to include bankrupts, minors, incompetents, mortgages, and private companies. The original purpose of a CQV Trust was to form a temporary Estate for the benefit of another because some event, state of affairs, or condition prevented them from claiming their status as living, competent, and present, before a competent authority. Therefore, any claims, history, statutes, or arguments that deviate in terms of the origin and function of a CQV Trust, as pronounced by these canons, is false and automatically null and void.
A Beneficiary under Estate may be either a Beneficiary or a CQV Trust. When a Beneficiary loses direct benefit of any Property of the higher Estate placed in a CQV Trust on his behalf, he do not “own” the CQV Trust; he is only the beneficiary of what the Trustees of the CQV Trust choose to provide. As all CQV Trusts are created on presumption, based upon original purpose and function, such a Trust cannot be created if these presumptions can be proven not to exist.
Since 1933, when a child is borne in a State (Estate) under inferior Roman law, three (3) Cestui Que (Vie) Trusts are created upon certain presumptions specifically designed to deny, forever, the child any rights of Real Property, any Rights to be free, and any Rights to be known as man or woman, rather than a creature or animal, by claiming and possessing their Soul or Spirit.
The Executors or Administrators of the higher Estate willingly and knowingly:
1. convey the beneficial entitlements of the child, as Beneficiary, into the 1st Cestui Que (Vie) Trust in the form of a Registry Number by registering the Name, thereby also creating the Corporate Person and denying the child any rights to Real Property; and,
2. claim the baby as chattel to the Estate. The slave baby contract is then created by honoring the ancient tradition of either having the ink impression of the baby’s feet onto the live birth record, or a drop of its blood, as well as tricking the parents to signing the baby away through the deceitful legal meanings on the live birth record which is a promissory note, converted into a slave bond, sold to the private reserve bank of the estate, and then conveyed into a 2nd and separate CQV Trust, per child, owned by the bank. When the promissory note reaches maturity and the bank is unable to “seize” the slave child, a maritime lien is lawfully issued to “salvage” the lost property and is monetized as currency issued in series against the CQV Trust.
3. claim the child’s soul via the Baptismal Certificate. Since 1540 and the creation of the 1st CQV Act, deriving its power from the Papal Bull of Roman Cult leader Pope Paul III, 1540, when a child is baptized and a Baptismal Certificate is issued, the parents have gifted, granted, and conveyed the soul of the baby to a “3rd” CQV Trust owned by Roman Cult, which has held this valuable property in its vaults ever since. Since 1815, this 3rd Crown of the Roman Cult and 3rd CQV Trust representing Ecclesiastical Property has been managed by the BAR as the reconstituted “Galla” responsible, as Grim Reapers, for reaping the souls.
Each Cestui Que Vie Trust, created since 1933, represents one of the 3 Crowns representing the three claims of property of the Roman Cult: Real Property (on Earth), Personal Property (body), and Ecclesiastical Property (soul). Each corresponds exactly to the three forms of law available to the Galla of the BAR Courts: corporate commercial law (judge is the ‘landlord’), maritime and canon law (judge is the banker), and Talmudic law (judge is the priest).
Santos goes into this here on Red Ice Radio:
https://m.clippercard.com/?p=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vd2F0Y2g%2Fdj1NR XUyX0FZWkxyTQ%3D%3D
And I’ve highlighted some of the other trust agreements, treaties and bankster shenanigans which followed in my thread here (” http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73281-Letter-from-the-Chicago-Archbishop-and-a-Response”) this letter response from a bishop high in the Vatican who “knows” how it works.
I will highlight some of the subsequent trusts, treaties and bankster shenanigan's now:
I direct your attention to the Treaty of Paris which ended the American Revolution and the corollary Treaty of Versailles.
There are three international Trustees named as caretakers of The United States Trust (1789).
They are the Pope, in His Temporal Office, the British Monarch, and The United States Postmaster (Civil).
Now I direct your attention to the Treaty of Westminster (1794) in which the City State of Westminster and the Crown Temple pledge “amity” in “perpetuity” with the newly formed United States.
Next, I direct your attention to the Treaty of Verona (1845) in which the then-Pope and the British Monarch, both Trustees of the American national trust, agreed that the representative form of government was incompatible with Divine Right of Kings and with Papal Supremacy, and so both acted in secretive Breach of Trust.
The British Monarch issued Letters of Marque and Reprisal to the members of the Bar Association (British Crown Commercial Company) which issued licenses to privateers to attack American “vessels” in international jurisdictions of the law. That, Sir, is the genesis of Bar Association Licenses.
A “license” as you must know, is permission to engage in an act which would otherwise be illegal.
The Americans responded by quickly passing an Amendment to their Constitution effectively barring attorneys from holding public office. In 1860, Abraham Lincoln, a Bar attorney, was elected President of the United States (Commercial Company) but could not lawfully act as the President of The United States of America (Major).
This is why representatives of eleven Southern States refused to be seated and left the Congress adjourned sine die.
In 1863, Lincoln was forced to bankrupt the original Trust Management Company doing business as The United States.
After years of bankruptcy reorganization known euphemistically as “reconstruction” a new Trust Management Organization was incorporated by the Church, doing business as the United States of America, Inc.
This entity operated under Church auspices from the end of the Reconstruction to 1912, when the Trust Management Organization was purchased by a consortium of banks doing business as the Federal Reserve.
By 1913 they had pushed through the “Federal Reserve Act” and via legal tender laws began a purposeful agenda to devalue the American Dollar and bankrupt the original corporation doing business as the United States of America, Inc.
In May of 1930, the G-5 nations declared international bankruptcy via joint treaty entered into at the Geneva Conventions.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the representative of the Federal Reserve dba United States of America, Inc.
Three years later, having been elected President, he declared domestic bankruptcy as well.
One of his first acts was to illegally confiscate privately held American gold, which was never repaid.
As the United States of America, Inc. was being prepared for bankruptcy, agents throughout the Congress and the individual states of the Union rushed through a process of “registering franchises”.
They created “states of states” merely named after the actual geographically defined American states. They also created foreign situs trusts named after each and every living American.
At the March 6, 1933, Conference of Governors meeting, the Governors — merely corporate officers of franchises of the bankrupt United States of America, Inc. — pledged the “good faith and credit” of “their States and the citizenry thereof” to stand as sureties for the debts of the United States of America, Inc. during its bankruptcy reorganization.
Imagine that Burger King International went bankrupt in the UK and it called all the local franchise owners together and they all agreed to name their customers as sureties for their corporate debts.
That is what happened in America in 1933. The victims weren’t told a word about this.
The perpetrators were rewarded by the bankers with access to virtually unlimited credit “hypothecated” against the assets of the American States and the private property of the American State Citizens.
All this credit cost the bankers nothing material, as they had inculcated a fiat money system. Issuing credit — “money of account” — cost them nothing but the time to enter digits in an account ledger.
In exchange for this favor to the politicians, they were rewarded with legal tender laws allowing this “system” to exist in America, and given surreptitious title to all real property assets in America, and provided with protection for their activities by the members of the Bar Associations.
In 1944, FDR quit claimed all the juicy service contracts and the assets used to service these governmental service contracts to the IMF.
The IMF took over from the Federal Reserve, gaining control of every logo, name, title, department, and agency of the “United States of America, Inc.” — what Americans believe to be their government — right down to the flag.
They charted a new Trust Management Organization in France doing business as the UNITED STATES, Inc. and moved in. They also took over the “State” franchises and opened their own “STATE OF______” franchises.
For the past 70 years they have enslaved the people of America and plundered the assets of The United States Trust (1789).
The creditors who forced the bankruptcy of the United States of America, Inc. included the World Bank, the International Bank of Development and Reconstruction, and the Federal Reserve — but the priority creditors named in the 1934 Bankruptcy Act were the American States and the American State Citizens.
The banks, being aware of their own schemes, named the Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico to act as their chosen Bankruptcy Trustee. (See Federal Title 5 for details.)
The Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico seized all the bogus “States on Paper” and “Americans on Paper” created by the Roosevelt Administration and rolled all the assets presumed to be part of these trusts into Roman Inferior Trusts (Cestui Que Vie Trusts) operated “in the NAME of” the foreign situs trusts Roosevelt created.
Thus, a living man denoted properly as “john quincy adams” was misrepresented as a foreign situs trust doing business as “John Quincy Adams” and then this entity was declared “dead, presumed missing at sea” by the perpetrators of this massive identity theft scheme, and all the assets of “John Quincy Adams” were rolled over into a Roman Inferior Trust doing business as “JOHN QUINCY ADAMS”.
The Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico also “removed” all these Roman Inferior Trusts to Puerto Rico for “safe keeping” where they came under the foreign jurisdiction of the Puerto Rican Commonwealth and the UK. There they were enslaved and taxed for the privilege of importing revenue to Puerto Rico — otherwise known as the “income tax”.
I’ve also highlighted in my thread how these trusts work energetically to hold the hologram in place, and how we can begin to rebut them and invoke our own energy by declaration. Thanks to sigma6 for his continuing to bring this truth to the forefront, as trust interpretation IS THE MOST IMPORTANT understanding if we are to break the energetic curse of Rome and the Vatican, the alien interlopers who have laid claim to everything, to which we have not rebutted, and we have acquiesced and agreed to support.
The "Ring of Power" series which Santos mentions is a five hour presentation. If you watch it, it will bring you up to speed. Five hours you say? Who has five hours? Most wont, some will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj09gAZqvh4
sigma6
27th July 2014, 18:44
Nice add in Grip
I will post my other 2cents on Roman History and the world it is trying to deprive us of (for our benefit of course)
This shows that Trust itself is just another tool. Necessary to society, but it can be used for both good and evil just like anything else. However it is of interest to note, that it alone incorporates "intention" as fundamental to it's operation and definition. This might be where it bridges into philosophy. And philosophy becomes the basis and "raison d'etre" to all subsequent knowledge, science and technology.
Thus why "Man cannot live on bread alone... " We exist within a context of "information" "knowledge" "philosophy" "purpose"
We are the only species on this planet that is self programming. We have the potential to choose our own destiny, and the entire environment we live in.
ROMAN MATRIX - System Of Control By Deception
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66839-The-Biggest-Time-Line-Shift-ROMAN-MATRIX-System-Of-Control-By-Deception&p=776944&viewfull=1#post776944
The Cestui Que Vie Trust creates the presumption of Power of Attorney in absence of an Expressed Trust. There are a few interpretations on how to deal with that. Including proof of life. Personally I think the fictional "Person" is necessary for accounting purposes, which is necessary in a Bankruptcy based model of accrual accounting. However we can and should be keeping ourselves separate from that world. That should be left to the trustees... It is really a double checking system to validate if we are operating "equitably" in trust. I think that was it's original purpose.
But in a way it has taken on a "life of it's own" (Matrix) and apparently we are all trapped in it... how quaint...
sigma6
27th July 2014, 19:28
What does concern me is , the worst case for earth in the third millennium is triggered when a pope no longer resides in Rome ... All the heat about the corruption of the Vatican could force the pope to leave Rome and not return hence , setting in motion = The words of Henoch ( Enoch) ... you owe it to yourself to read the long prophecies , you will know a possible future of our Earth/time ...
On the other hand imagine a world where there are no more children kidnapped and raped and murdered for pederastic and satanic purposes. Imagine a world where sacred text and information dating back to Roman Egyptian times, maybe even from the Library of Alexandria was released to the world. Imagine a world where the US released even half of the 6,000 suppressed patents. Imagine a world where all the 10-20 trillion spent every year on armaments was spent on DESTROYING and REMOVING ALL WEAPONS of WAR. But was spent instead on Social infrastructure, farms, pollution control, schools, parks, education. Let the military become Forest Rangers, Explorers, Emergency and (REAL) Security forces. Imagine if the entire planet was covered in green foliage, and we had a trust obligation to plant as many trees as we cut down. All this is within our potential today.
Maybe we could start learning about trust and who our trustees are... and the source of power that each of us has as soon as we learn to operate it. :)
But we have to put the highest value on LIFE and we have to recognize the most delicate and priceless part of that is consciousness.
Now honestly, when was the last time ANYBODY has taken the time to contemplate that. To nurture these types of thoughts in their mind... To play with these ideas. Who has fed their imagination along these lines... even superficially?
gripreaper
27th July 2014, 19:49
This shows that Trust itself is just another tool. Necessary to society, but it can be used for both good and evil just like anything else.
Yes. the Magna Carta was just such a trust created by the people, for the people, and of the people. What happened to it? It was pledged to the Vatican through the bankruptcy of Britain.
And the other trust by the people, for the people, and of the people? The original United States Trust of (1789), the original articles of Confederation, of the 13 sovereign colonies. This trust was purchased and pledged against the war of 1812, and fell into the hands of the Vatican shortly thereafter.
So, any time the people put together a trust to go against the cabal, it was ruined, stolen, leveraged, bankrupted, or otherwise rendered mute, it's energy vampired and it's intention dissipated and trampled, murdered by blood flowing in the streets, through terror and mayhem, chaos, fear and confusion!
And THAT is what is going on as we speak. The nations of this planet do not like the reorganization of the international bankruptcy of 1933, and have been haggling over it since 2001. They don't like the fiat system of slavery and indenture, but why has it taken seven centuries to understand trusts and trust interpretation, from the original Express Trust Unam Sanctam, until now, with the rehypotication of all tangibles and intangibles to keep the IMF fiat system of Rome in place?
And this is more of the back story of what was happening in 2001, when the world was to emerge out of this international bankruptcy, but the cabal had other ideas. They had already absconded with all resources for their black projects, and there was nothing to return. All they left the nations of the world with, was useless pledges and useless paper. Small wonder they used mini nukes to blow up all the evidence. Geez.
But they had the "first in line, first in time" claim to it, so &^^%$ everybody else.
gripreaper
27th July 2014, 20:17
What does concern me is , the worst case for earth in the third millennium is triggered when a pope no longer resides in Rome ... All the heat about the corruption of the Vatican could force the pope to leave Rome and not return hence , setting in motion = The words of Henoch ( Enoch) ... you owe it to yourself to read the long prophecies , you will know a possible future of our Earth/time ...
On the other hand imagine a world where there are no more children kidnapped and raped and murdered for pederastic and satanic purposes. Imagine a world where sacred text and information dating back to Roman Egyptian times, maybe even from the Library of Alexandria was released to the world. Imagine a world where the US released even half of the 6,000 suppressed patents. Imagine a world where all the 10-20 trillion spent every year on armaments was spent on DESTROYING and REMOVING ALL WEAPONS of WAR. But was spent instead on Social infrastructure, farms, pollution control, schools, parks, education. Let the military become Forest Rangers, Explorers, Emergency and (REAL) Security forces. Imagine if the entire planet was covered in green foliage, and we had a trust obligation to plant as many trees as we cut down. All this is within our potential today.
Maybe we could start learning about trust and who our trustees are... and the source of power that each of us has as soon as we learn to operate it. :)
But we have to put the highest value on LIFE and we have to recognize the most delicate and priceless part of that is consciousness.
Now honestly, when was the last time ANYBODY has taken the time to contemplate that. To nurture these types of thoughts in their mind... To play with these ideas. Who has fed their imagination along these lines... even superficially?
I have. If we step back from the canvas and look at history from just one day, one precession of the equinoxes, it becomes clearer. Take the 26,000 year cycle and divide it in two, and you have the 12,000 year matriarchal epoch and the 12,000 year patriarchal epoch. Divide by four and you have the quadrant of Leo, Taurus and Pisces, or the reign of the Roman empire, the emergence of the rule of law and the monotheistic slave system.
We've got a little ways to go before we shift into Aquarius, but when the patriarchal system merges with the matriarch, and the waterbearer appears and cleanses us of our duality, and we emerge as conscious co-creators, as self determined and self actualized beings standing sovereign in our own power, and we collectively dream into existence unity consciousness, complete with the emergence of the twin flame reunion, it's gonna be awesome.
But, the road "may be rough", giving up the patriarch, and not throwing it out with the bath water and reintegrating it with the feminine. Should be fun though. I've got my ticket! You got yours?
sigma6
27th July 2014, 20:53
This shows that Trust itself is just another tool. Necessary to society, but it can be used for both good and evil just like anything else.
Yes. the Magna Carta was just such a trust created by the people, for the people, and of the people. What happened to it? It was pledged to the Vatican through the bankruptcy of Britain.
And the other trust by the people, for the people, and of the people? The original United States Trust of (1789), the original articles of Confederation, of the 13 sovereign colonies. This trust was purchased and pledged against the war of 1812, and fell into the hands of the Vatican shortly thereafter.
So, any time the people put together a trust to go against the cabal, it was ruined, stolen, leveraged, bankrupted, or otherwise rendered mute, it's energy vampired and it's intention dissipated and trampled, murdered by blood flowing in the streets, through terror and mayhem, chaos, fear and confusion!
And THAT is what is going on as we speak. The nations of this planet do not like the reorganization of the international bankruptcy of 1933, and have been haggling over it since 2001. They don't like the fiat system of slavery and indenture, but why has it taken seven centuries to understand trusts and trust interpretation, from the original Express Trust Unam Sanctam, until now, with the rehypotication of all tangibles and intangibles to keep the IMF fiat system of Rome in place?
And this is more of the back story of what was happening in 2001, when the world was to emerge out of this international bankruptcy, but the cabal had other ideas. They had already absconded with all resources for their black projects, and there was nothing to return. All they left the nations of the world with, was useless pledges and useless paper. Small wonder they used mini nukes to blow up all the evidence. Geez.
But they had the "first in line, first in time" claim to it, so &^^%$ everybody else.
I am saying that if we understood it properly it would be implemented properly and it would work properly, And we would have solved the distribution of power problem in the world, which in turn would solve the distribution of wealth problem. It actually works even now despite a planet of people, completely ignorant of it's principles (at least directly, consciously and with clear intention) And yet it is still reigning in a lot more terror and evil that would otherwise be unleashed without it...
The PTB at the very least still forced to cultivate their evil hidden in dark places. The US is trying to create a world of contract, a corporation of commerce to replace trust. Which is really just a twisted an limited trust application, in and of itself, on another level. This is largely the cause of most of the evil they get away with. They contracted to take away our rights, redefine words, transfer liability onto us. All of this wouldn't be happening if we were operating and maintaining trust as self aware beneficiaries that know how to exercise our right against our trustees... This applies even right now. Like wealth in the markets it is never truly lost, the power is just transferred to another party. So unfortunately, until we hit that critical mass, there will be trustees operating with no checks and balances...
sigma6
27th July 2014, 21:10
I was a part of the Liberty Bell system in Alaska and supported the common law courts there, unfortunately that all ended when some very shady 3 letter agency actions arrested the "leader" of that movement. After that my interest in law fell away unfortunately.
Yep and it was all done by presumption and assumption I'll bet. Unfortunately your leader was outgunned on what would probably have been "super technicalities" Many people are jailed on contempt alone, especially when there is no real cause. Who knows what they "got" him on, but I can only imagine it was arbitrary and farcical... but technically correct within a "jurisdiction" that they presumed they had over him, and which he failed to identify and rebut...
One of the most important themes in this interpretation is to NOT identify yourself with the PERSON, by signature, by actions, by saying you are that NAME, etc. When you think about this it sounds strange and illogical. Until you realize that it IS NOT US. And the only way to reconcile what is going on is by recognizing there HAS TO BE some kind of trust. I can't see it any other way right now. The focus is on EXPRESSING that old clique of "Who I am" but specifically in relation to the PERSON.
One popular one right now is David Clarence's "occupant of the office of the Executor" which I think has merit, and is certainly one angle... I'm thinking it may be only part of the equation. Because I don't want to just be the Executor, as that too is technically just another trustee! It's playing too much their game against them. (taking the highest trustee position...)
They do target people who would dare. It really is a Roman system in that sense. If you wish to exercise your rights, the key word is "exercise"... It is a combination of understanding, expressing. The system today really is like an "intellectual" war. It is adversarial. That is why I like trust. One of the strategies I can take is to make sure there is no controversy. (i.e. Where is the controversy?... ) Since I am able to authorize settlement of any liabilities created in the public. Can you see why they might not like to have you take that power and control away from them? It exposes they are NOT ONLY concerned about settlement of fines. This clearly EXPOSES it is about CONTROL.
It's like driving, there's a bunch of things you must do very specifically and accurately, while there are a bunch of things you must avoid, and you must do all these things in concert. And you must reach a certain level of proficiency before you can be trusted to drive on your own. And then the more you practice, the better and more confident you become. Walking your walk and talking your talk. It is not just one piece of paper, or one principle, or one magic phrase, etc. It is a body of principles, that includes philosophy, the bible (as much as that scares some people) logic, truth (that would fall under philosophy) obligation, duty, honour, etc. All applied to the trust mechanism. It's a lifestyle, a philosophy, that just happens to operate on MAXIMS. MAXIMS are never questioned in any court, by definition.
No doubt they are keeping us down. It all about control of distribution of power (our right to freedom of expression and action)
UPDATE: ummm... has anyone noticed the biggest thread in the conspiracy section is missing???? :confused:
cloud9
27th July 2014, 23:02
I feel terribly sorry, I don't want to rain in anybody else's parade but..... there's not such a thing as sheriffs in Europe. NONE.
The sheriff figure comes from the wild west era and the USA is the only place in the world where they exist.
Amazing how people want to discuss something like this. These arrests are never going to happen. Didn't they already declare the queen guilty? And pope Benedict? And a few other relevant figures?
sigma6
27th July 2014, 23:36
Amazing how people want to discuss something like this. These arrests are never going to happen. Didn't they already declare the queen guilty? And pope Benedict? And a few other relevant figures?
Read my latest "chain connected post" people shouldn't posting stuff like this without at least making some kind of effort to read the context. In particular read the defintion of Expressed Trust. It was corrected from my original post. I accidently copied it incorrectly... But I truly feel sorry when I hear people with the clearly identified affliction of learned helplessness. The millions of people who share your view are the bedrock and foundation of their power. If you only understood that...
“The most powerful weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed”
― Steve Biko
We are never going to break free of the prison created for our minds if we don't engage our minds. Consider where the key must lie (in this analogy) ;)
cloud9
27th July 2014, 23:57
What I'm saying is that as guilty as they can be we'll never see them arrested. It's not learned helplessness, it's just that the court doesn't have any power it seems, otherwise they would have been already in prison.
gripreaper
28th July 2014, 00:44
What I'm saying is that as guilty as they can be we'll never see them arrested. It's not learned helplessness, it's just that the court doesn't have any power it seems, otherwise they would have been already in prison.
I had to go back and read this entire thread, which I entered half way through with trust interpretation, which "may" help to answer the question about arresting the pontiff and his cohorts. The Common Law court has no jurisdiction, and a de-facto verdict is not enforceable against the "owners" of everything.
Of course, we empaths cry against human rights violations, yet the owners who "own your body" see you as chattel. Go back and review the three Vatican trusts highlighted in previous posts, and also realize that the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington DC fall outside any jurisdiction. They are NOT subject to any Common Law.
The upside to this could be: This shows the world how the Vatican is outside any jurisdiction and we begin to recognize the existence of the psychopathic alien interlopers known as the Archon's who run the world and stand outside ALL jurisdiction and we look at the trusts and we revoke them, take the psychopaths out of power, return the planet to sovereignty, and take responsibility for our own destiny.
We have shown ourselves to be incompetent, vessels lost at sea, in need of salvage. We are NOT considered sentient beings with a soul and no Common Law court can "will" a soul to emerge conscious. It's consciousness which must emerge for the paradigm shift to occur.
Courts are courts, they are tribunals for the lost to be salvaged. Why would the pontiff submit to an inferior jurisdiction?
observer
28th July 2014, 02:37
Here's another conviction by a "people's court" that got hardly any play time:
http://www.ratical.org/radiation/DU/ICTforAatT.html
It's like grip said,
"we begin to recognize the existence of the psychopathic alien interlopers known as the Archon's who run the world and stand outside ALL jurisdiction and we look at the trusts and we revoke them, take the psychopaths out of power, return the planet to sovereignty, and take responsibility for our own destiny.
The more the Mass of Humanity realizes what these Archons are about and how they operate, the more chance We The People can create our own paradigm shift. It's all about the Gnosis of Understanding.
Please don't allow semantics to confuse any member. The Archons and the Reptoids are one-in-the-same. The historic records from all forms of antiquity is permeated with accounts of reptilian characters in one form or another. These are the same hyperdimensional life forms reported as Archons by the ancient Gnostics.
Research Resource:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons.htm
sigma6
28th July 2014, 04:41
What I'm saying is that as guilty as they can be we'll never see them arrested. It's not learned helplessness, it's just that the court doesn't have any power it seems, otherwise they would have been already in prison.
I beg to differ, people of great power (and high responsibility) may very well be harder to get at... that should be common sense. Also, your unsubstantiated claim with no context, doesn't explain why Ratzy stepped down and why the other guy is already suggesting he is resigning... now those actual events speaks to me... what you say doesn't... so even at face value, I don't see any?
And you haven't spoken to anything I have posted which does actually contain some, rationale, explanation, reference... give it a read... :)
sigma6
28th July 2014, 04:49
Go back and review the three Vatican trusts highlighted in previous posts, and also realize that the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington DC fall outside any jurisdiction. They are NOT subject to any Common Law.
I don't think common law applies to entities that operate in trust, at least not in the sense that your suggesting, agreed. In the "court" of common law exists a court of equity. Equity fills the gap the common law doesn't... Common law has many limitations, which is why equity came into being... Also there is no immunity to murder. Regardless what Law form... And there are many different law forms besides Common Law. Just because he is using a court of common law doesn't mean that is the only venue operating.
If McDonalds made a rule that no one is allowed to murder a fellow employee, that doesn't limit the rule to just being a "corporate policy" (which technically it now is). It still has underlying principles that are in effect. Again people who make these contextless, unexplained, no research, no reference type explanations, just not sure where the point is...
gripreaper
28th July 2014, 05:17
I don't think common law applies to entities that operate in trust, within the "court" of common law exists a court of equity. Equity fills the gap the common law doesn't... Common law has many limitations, which is why equity came into being...
That is correct, Common Law does not apply to trusts. Common Law implies two parties in contract, a breach, and a remedy in equity. Yet a true equitable solution is in Chancery, with peers of your peers and a grand jury which operates in Chancery. The jury decides, not the magistrate. Common Law is still used by magistrates who "rule" on cases, under the assumption that they will be equitable. It does not happen.
Also there is no immunity to murder. Regardless what Law form... And there are many different law forms besides Common Law. Just because he is using a court of common law doesn't mean that is the only venue operating.
Murder? Are we not immortal souls? Do we not take on a meat suit for this particular incarnation? The Vatican sees the body as an animal, has no animation, is dead, lost at sea, mute, a ward of the state, and fully indentured. They don't have such notions of murder. Its just salvage of the cargo from the vessel. Murder is constructs and symbols and archetypes of the empaths, who have the ability to emote and who can and do "feel" what other sentient beings are feeling, and therefore have compassion and understanding.
The psychopaths have no such notions. You are mixing two separate venues. There is the private which is alive and the public, which is dead, fictitious, and devoid of empathy and feeling. It is an energy vampiristic blood sucking venue and they will not subject themselves to the private side because they DO NOT recognize it. The two shall never mix.
So, choose whatever venue you wish. Get right down to breach of fiduciary duty, breach of trust, breach of Common Law, breach of equity, THEY DON'T CARE and they don't recognize it. The battle is in the quantum, is above the flesh and is in the spirit, to be totally blunt. Trying to apply any constructs of the rule of law is patriarchal and only leads to more patriarchy.
Its all based on a finite universe and competition for scarce resources. If resources are abundant, then how can there be a breach in equity? If we are immortal, how can there be a trespass or a grievance?
[update]
By the way, I just listened to the Rod Class talkshoe with Debra the ex lawyer. She makes some excellent points.
sigma6
28th July 2014, 15:55
You just messed up a whole bunch of different concepts there. Ironic given your claim that I did. Courts don't deal with "immortal souls" they deal with Persons. In fact if an immortal soul showed up in court, it would be like a man, recognized as a beneficiary in a court of equity. (in truth if it literally happened, everyone would flee the court!) So you are getting too fantastic there. Alfred Adusk may have misinterpreted trust imo, but he nailed the definition of "man" used in statutory law, by clearly understanding grammar better than 99% of the population. And he correctly concluded the courts have defined man as an animal... Consider the following "...man and other animals...." (who knows their grammar? who can see the answer? it's prima facie, self evident)
So in this context... I try to avoid 'glomming' the esoteric spiritual stuff with practical application. It is good for historical context. But what you are saying above is confusing. But granted, more often than not, it's always more complicated then simple definitions. By definition, a connotation is only one facet of a definition. There are multiple connotations, hidden meanings, etc. Which is why I often speak in terms of what I consider to be fundamental concepts. i.e. definitions and the specific context that applies to it. Or direct appeals to authorities and the quotes and research from direct sources. It just trains my mind to maintain a scientific methodology. A good part of the last few years, was clearing out a whole bunch of stuff I realized I couldn't divine whether it was relevant or not because it had no explanation, no reference, no logical interpretation. It was just some arbitrary step by step, with an arbitrary interpretation, and when asked for a source it was just copied from something with no identifiable source or author!!! You would be surprised at how much stuff like that is out there!
So I don't get to heavy into the Vatican, because I could never keep up with Frank O'Collins and UCADIA, and maybe I should have, but I had my hands are full looking at equity. And I decided to stick with equity because today, it is technically more fundamental and more applicable. Although the Vatican stuff definitely provides powerful historical context and etymological background. No doubt about it. So I won't say I exactly disagree. But I see what you are saying above as mixing metaphors. The vessel you refer to is the PERSON. Yes we are referred to as Vessels in the Bible. But in the legal construct mirror image world, the vessel is also a fictional legal entity, like a corporation, and that is why it is dead. It is the Ship in Admiralty. And yes there is much esoteric occult interpretation, how that originated.
Frank's stuff did explain what happened in my personal experience (Judge getting up and spontaneously leaving when I gave a particular notice of interest) Common law and Equity exist within the same court in England and Canada. In England it is the Supreme Court, and in Canada it is Common Law Court, which is the Superior Court. Therefore either can be invoked and it is dependent on the actions and motions of the parties, which one is invoked.
I would imagine these courts evolved from their Roman civil counterparts. But I can't claim to know what goes on in a "Vatican" Court. I have some idea what goes on in Canadian courts to some degree (very little in fact!) The dead lifeless thing you are referring to is a fictional legal entity, the Person. The definitions I have provided are specific and to the point. If you mention these to a lawyer, I have seen them shrug their shoulders and play stupid (imagine the irony ...lol there is no wiggle room in a five word definition like... "Persons" = "include Her Majesty and an organization"... so they have to play dead, excuse the pun) People must grasp this. As much as the court maintains the illusion, (i.e. like they don't notice this, all my years of research, and all the stories I have gathered, and all my own personal research clearly indicates, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that actually MANY in the court, are actually 100% aware of the person (just to varying degrees) I have explained why they are so strongly compelled across the board however NOT to openly discuss it. But if you persist long enough, you can always find people willing to talk, secretly, indirectly, and sometimes spontaneously (before they catch themselves, which is my favourite)
I have even been told by a court clerk behind a counter (who turned out to be a "student lawyer") that he was aware of this, but suggested that my argument would never work (He couldn't have been more wrong, that was my "classic court experience" day!) . And I do remember after 2 minutes of conversation, I negated the limitations of his interpretations, and he COULD NOT answer my specific questions. He was probably right in some senses. It would never work for any employee of the court or lawyer, etc. And that was clearly TRAINED into his mind. Because they have all accepted jurisdiction by definition. But that is another story. Point is, I became keenly away (I journalized that whole event) that almost EVERYONE KNOWS about it to some level. It's kind of like Richard Hoagland said, and I suspect it is similar in the court. The "lie" is different at every level. The police know about it in certain aspects, which is why they require the ID, look at it, AND THEN ask you "Are you John Doe" It's an opportunity to entrap yourself. The court does the same "Who are you, state your name for the record... or Are you JOHN DOE? The lawyers certainly know. The judges certainly know, the dictionary definitions are 3, 4 word sentences. Like I just mentioned it is all laid out but indirectly, because it is a private trust issue. It has also been identified on the commercial level as a Trade Secret (according to CW)
People who have never "pulled back the curtain" and EXPERIENCED what I have experienced won't get it (I get it) I understand how difficult it is to believe something you have never EXPERIENCED. And I have experience BOTH success AND failure. But once you have, on the other hand, there is no going back either. I feel very lucky (or cursed?) These people are putting on a show. There is YOU... and there is a PERSON. And they know it 100% crystal clear. And just because someone lamely tries to tell the court in a weak, fearful, whiny voice... "... but I'm not the PERSON..." is not going to get you anywhere. And it is those people, who always say... "see this didn't work, it's all BS... " and I get that too. But that is the classic example I share, because it is still the first thing that comes into MY OWN MIND! (it is still so universal in the "Commercial Redemption" movement) I still haven't completely trained it out of my own brain! Anyhow, you have to EXPERIENCE a positive outcome to "get it" It really is another world! Sadly I know many will never experience this. In that sense I was "lucky" (I was so focused, and clear in advance exactly what I intended to do, I realized that is what saved me.)
They already know you are not the person. What DID work (in one specific case) That I know of directly from an experiencer, was when she stated I don't claim ownership to the name. There have also been stories from people, where they have claimed I don't claim any legal interest. Both of these are consistent with my interpretation. In both of these incidents, the "issues" simply ceased to be an issue. (see ALL my previous posts connected with "my own reference" links) If you want to learn this you are going to have to REPEATEDLY PRACTICE by REREADING the material, simply understanding while you are reading IS NOT ENOUGH. Can you put the material down and articulate to ANOTHER (or the mirror) what you have just discussed? Try it, and you will realize that more often then not, you can't. These ideas are so radical from everyday thinking, that they don't come naturally. I use this as a test myself. Sometimes I can't remember a 10 word sentence. And it is the "logic" not the words that is impeding me. They don't call it a MATRIX for nothing. IT REALLY IS COMING AT YOU FROM ALL DIRECTIONS.
The PERSON is a real literal separate OTHER ENTITY. To begin your study, you must get it in your head that it is REAL. Whether they "appear" to act like it or not. Many people are taking their cue from the court, and the "actors" in the court, even unconsciously to some extent, and that is STUPID. They are pretending to know something they don't know. i.e. I have seen people, go up to the gate, then bow, and enter the gate. The only reason they are doing that is because like monkeys, they watched and saw lawyers and social workers, etc, do this all day while they are sitting and waiting their turn. This is a small example but shows, the gullibility of limited thinking. They have NO CLUE why the "employees" are doing it. But they do it, and show their lack of spiritual insight and shallowness when they do, and I can assure the courts are "laughing" inside.
Some may claim that I am just making up my own interpretation as well. AND I AM... but I had a prosecutor come up to me in one case, and say "Do your realize I always address her (a magistrate) as "my worship"? And I replied "You do?" "I don't worship anyone but God" He obviously thought he was going to imbue a "suggestion" into me (they were having a hard time with me that day) But I was so "in the zone" that day. I immediately saw what he was attempting for what it was... And his reaction was priceless. The best way to describe it was as if I had pulled out some garlic, and exposed it to a vampire. His eyebrows rose up in surprise and fear and he literally cringed, and immediately turned to get away from me as if under compulsion. I don't completely understand the gist, but apparently God is NOT in a probate court. And I have seen this bizarre reaction on MORE than one occasion by different people when you say certain similar type things.
There have been many interpretations. But there is a lot of consensus, that their is an occult connection to the black robes, and the whole inner workings, and I am starting to believe it more and more. They are engaging in a form of occult practice, they have mixed legal interpretation with occult "magic" ... Magi-strate. i.e. There is the more common interpretation that the black robes signify the dead, and the wigs signify they are like "actors" in another "persona". But I am now very comfortable that the other levels of occult ritual are there. I just don't discuss it as much, because I haven't put the specific focus on specific research, and gathered specific references. I just come across it so often and it fits what I do have and experience.
What I do know for sure, the connection in their legal dictionaries clearly shows that corporations are spelt with UPPER CASE NAMES. There is NO DENYING that these LEGAL FICTIONS (devices of convenience, creations, virtual Persons, etc, It is understood that anything fictional, like Corporations, and Persons are DEAD. Both literally and metaphorically. Remember this world was created before the invention of computers. But it is in principle the same. They are CREATING AN OPERATING SYSTEM without a computer! And thus the law are like computer programs, and in this "virtual environment" they create "virtual entities". If you study computer OS, there is DEFINITELY many concepts that relate to TRUST LAW in fact. Domain servers LEASE IP numbers, And servers at set up in TRUST networks, and there is a COMMAND LINE interface, default settings are "Presumptions" of the Programmers. If you find them you can "rebut" them by setting your own choices. What is a Operating System. It is an "environment" where certain "RULES" or "LAWS" apply. And where certain "OBJECTS" can exist, etc, etc... again very fascinating. The same has been said of language itself. When it first came into being, it was considered such a quantum leap in human behaviour. It was viewed as supernatural. In a way, at the time, IT WAS SUPERNATURAL. (Read Origin Of Consciousness In the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind - Julian Janes) Words appeared to be like voices speaking. There is some interpretation, that before man's mind became bicameral (and apparently this is unique in the animal kingdom) Written words were perceived as "voices" that could actually be heard in people's heads! So yeah all the occult stuff is clearly there. Speaking is considered to be making spells. The only thing that can be summoned ARE DEAD ENTITIES (and then perchance WE show up.... lol ... This is where the game begins) They execute orders, it goes on and on... and it is definitely fascinating, but I don't go there so much unless it is DIRECTLY applicable to my PRACTICAL APPLICATION. nuff said...
In the same sense the virtual computer character in your favourite computer first person player is also DEAD. It's just a collection of lines of code. When you turn on the program it doesn't DO anything. Until YOU MOVE it. Notice the connection with making MOTIONS in the court. Making MOTIONS is how you MOVE DEAD entities. It goes without saying only living souls operate Corporations, and FICTIONS. I mention this because people literalize "fiction" to mean it is just a figment of your imagination. That is TRUE. But It is so much more. (just like the virtual character in your favourite program) Think of it, how do you get to interact with that virtual world in your favourite program? THROUGH YOUR AVATAR! YOUR VIRTUAL REALITY CHARACTER! And how easy does it become to identify yourself with this character? Ask any Dungeons and Dragons player (lol) Again ANOTHER EXCELLENT EXAMPLE, as that game too, was created BEFORE COMPUTERS!. And finally, if anyone has experienced virtual reality programs where you can actually put on goggles and gloves and "stand inside a booth". There was a clear unmistakable "experience" that as I took off the mask and gloves, that I was stepping out of one virtual reality and stepping into another virtual reality (maybe something to it)
People absolutely must grasp this concept. The biggest confusion is NOT PROPERLY separating yourself 100%. YOU MUST NOT IDENTIFY YOURSELF WITH THE PERSON. You must exercise your ability to fight against an instinct entrained in you your whole life. AND it is not easy because the MOST DIFFICULT THING TO ARTICULATE IS EXACTLY WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE NAME... i.e. "Who Are YOU!" This is almost like an endless philosophical discussion even at the cutting edge groups. There is MORE THAN ONE interpretation! Because there is MORE THAN ONE WAY to do it. Nonetheless, when you ACT like you are aware of this, without fail, despite what suggestions, they try to impose on you, AND you do it the right steps. They ABSOLUTELY do respond. It is clearly a theatre, there are clearly specific rules how they "act" in there. But if you think your best lawyer friend is going to sit down over a beer and divulge any of this, you are kidding yourself. As he could lose his job and even go to jail (breach of fiduciary responsibility) NOT going to happen. YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS INFORMATION DIRECTLY. I have gotten some juicy tidbits though, which I have posted in my links. Otherwise you must infer it from thousands of reports, studies, cases, personal experiences, etc.
And I see even people who have been at it for years. STILL make the mistake of slipping back and forth between being the recipient of a PERSON, and being that PERSON. I have come to the conclusion the reason for this is, is because if you look at all the words in our language and how they are redefined in the legal dictionary and all the words they are using. That IT IS THE LANGUAGE and concepts that we are "given" that we take for granted, that are programming us. I know that for the first several years, (and still today) If I don't constantly practice and go over my material and excercise my logic and study all the definitions, that I fall back into the very presumptions "they" want. It is so easy! And I wondered why is this SO HARD TO LEARN. And it is the language and the wall of information in the public, that keeps us in the box. The media, the commercials, the common usage of words. LITERALLY all the BS police, lawyer and judge shows, hospital dramas, etc, etc. The lack of any counter information, the lack of constitutional knowledge. It's simple behavioural conditioning.
Think about it, where do you find OUTSIDE of Commercial Redemption Groups, where do you find any information, where even the most basic topics about your rights, the constitution, trust law, legal definitions. Which btw affect your life and define the world you live in (whether you are aware of it or not) Where do you see this discussed? and presented as I and others are elucidating it? NOWHERE!!! ... THERE IS NOTHING!!! The closest might be BAD BOYS on tv. And that is just a bunch of cops, and they know they are being watched, and it is VERY LIMITED (I give it a 3 out of 10)
So the DEAD ENTITY is the PERSON, that they have created. Like a corporation they have attached privileges, duties and obligations to it, created an account for it, tied it into the Security Exchange system. Monetized it and use it for commercial purposes. You are entitled to USE it, but IF you IDENTIFY with it. You will suffer the consequences.
Quotes from Beneficial Owner pdf
...there has been heated debate among trust authorities over the use of the word “owner” in describing a beneficiary’s interest in trust property.4
...Equity provided the person intended to benefit with a means to enforce the right of enjoyment. This was a personal right, or right in personam, against the trustee. It was not a proprietary right, or right in rem, with respect to the trust property itself.5
...different terminology is often used to describe the same concept; for example, one finds references to the “beneficial” or “equitable” owner or a “beneficial” or “equitable” interest.7 The words “beneficial” and “equitable” both express the concept that the claimant has a right that is recognized in equity and that will be enforced by the courts under its equitable jurisdiction.
...Expressions that include the words “beneficial owner,” “entitlement,” or “interest(s)” have their root in the body of English law known as equity. These expressions import with them notions of a fiduciary obligation, an obligation that has been enforced in equity through nine centuries, first by the king through the lord chancellor, later through the courts of chancery, and in Canada, since the 1880s, by the superior courts of each province. The role of equity at each of these stages has been to bring justice and fairness to the common law. The fiduciary obligation or duty was the main reason for equity’s intervention with the common law.
...The chancellor, to whom the king generally referred these petitions, often held high ecclesiastical office and training in Roman law, canon law, or both. Drawing from these legal principles, the chancellor intervened not to rewrite the common law, but rather to prevent its strict application if such application would be unjust.
...The chancellor and later the courts of chancery also became active in the equitable administration of uses (trusts).
...The chancellor and later the courts of chancery also became active in the equitable administration of uses (trusts). The chancellor’s role in this respect dates back as early as 1225 and was critical to the enforcement of the trust. Specifically, the chancellor ensured that the trustee (feofee to uses) did nothing with the trust property other than what was agreed with the settlor.
...By the end of the 15th century, most people regarded the equitable interest of the cestui que trust as something akin to what we call “equitable title” or “beneficial ownership” today.8 This equitable title was also enforced by the courts of chancery.
...it was generally believed that the fusion of law and equity was procedural and not substantive.10 There would continue to be two bodies of law, equity and common law, but one court would now administer these. The fused Canadian courts would therefore recognize and enforce both the trustee’s legal title to trust property and the equitable
interest of the trust beneficiary
...Thus, equity is very much alive in the modern common law, and the rights of the beneficiary in equity to the trust property are recognized and continue to be enforced by Canadian courts.
And the final kicker... although all this stuff is important. If I didn't mention this, I am CERTAIN everyone would make the same mistake... If you read through all this, who or what is it making reference to? Beneficiaries and Persons. NOT YOU! (maybe several hundred years ago, but NOT today! Remember they didn't have a birth certificate back then... Bingo!)
The trick is it all gets back to the Person. So there is a fundamental "theory of everything" (LOL...mad scientist laughter) That I have discovered. The most important relationship you need to understand is really only one. And that is WHO YOU ARE ... IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PERSON. What makes this tricky is there is a beneficiary in the public (i.e the common law and the equity.... and there is a beneficiary in the private) All that you just read above is the public.
You have to infer a second cestui que in the private... (I wonder if I have said too much... hmm... ) I don't go this far because it won't jive if you haven't even got a basic gist of some of what I am suggesting above, which is all direct quotes,
sigma6
28th July 2014, 17:40
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a THEFT from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children"
- Dwight D Eisenhower
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sigma6
29th July 2014, 17:18
Learn something new every day :)
Funny my whole life I thought the line was
"Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
And most of them are mine"... instead of ...
[ the post-er bear-er cried ] Go figure...
and the funny thing oddly, I still hear it that way
(if you're in a "hurry" and for giggles, you can play it on 1.5,
but it does take away from the whole Pink Floyd Experience)
nDbeqj-1XOo
Us and Them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died
And the General sat, and the lines on the map
moved from side to side
Black and Blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and Down
And in the end it's only round and round and round
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
the poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside
Down and Out
It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
With, without
And who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about
Get out of the way, it's a busy day
I've got things on my mind
For want of the price of tea and a slice
The old man died
observer
30th July 2014, 13:46
(For the full content of gripreaper's comment #26, click-on the forwarding icon)
[snip....]
The "Ring of Power" series which Santos mentions is a five hour presentation. If you watch it, it will bring you up to speed. Five hours you say? Who has five hours? Most wont, some will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj09gAZqvh4
Here is a thread from several years ago where this video was introduced:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3790-More-Evidence-The-Mass-of-Humanity-is-being-Controlled-The-Empire-of-The-City
It didn't receive very much exposure then, perhaps some of the members will be more inclined to watch it now.
I would reiterate, this video is most likely one of the most informative available. It is an "in a nutshell" exposé of how the global elite control the wealth of the planet.
It was recently reported that 86 individuals control more wealth than 3.5 billion of the world's poorest individuals. (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-20/the-worlds-85-richest-now-worth-as-much-as-3-dot-5-billion-poorest) One will gain a better understanding of how this is accomplished if one invests the five hours.
Ultimately, the control mechanism over the Mass Reality goes hyperdimensional.
I have spent my entire adult life studying the evidence; the historic and archeological evidence all the way back to the Dawn of Man, and I can report the evidence all leads to an other-dimensional conclusion.
There is no other logical explanation for an agenda that has spanned millennia of time.
sigma6
31st July 2014, 00:30
Good post. I assume everyone has watched it... (mistaken assumption?) If you haven't you shouldn't be in this section LOL!! I do list it in my "Roman Matrix" Post. I think her name is Gloria Powers, daughter of a FREEMASON. She exposes the secret history that they espouse and have been party to. The implications being that there is a network of Secret Societies that have been using an "aspect" of the Bible's interpretation for their own manipulation purposes, and it goes back centuries. These secret societies were responsible for the murder of JFK, Lincoln, the attempts on Andrew Jackson, the assassination of Duke Ferdinand, the sinking of the Titanic, and on and on, etc, If you watch it once, I am sure you will watch it again. It will change your paradigm. One of those "imagine if everyone on the planet watched this" type videos... Classic.
sigma6
8th August 2014, 04:51
Promised follow up example of someone using trust interpretation, that managed to make it on the front page of a website, hiding in plain sight.
For a perfect example of this, check out this Nigella Lawson article:
In moments of desperation such as this one (for Charles Saatchi...) the media caught a glimpse, and 'things' did slip out, albeit, if only by reference... note the clear reference to "nisi decree"... Now honestly, who on this planet would even know what that is ??? (Most lawyers wouldn't) And notice how the article gives absolutely no explanation either? (because they wouldn't don't know either...)
Article Headline: Nigella Lawson’s ex reportedly threatened to 'commit suicide' in an attempt to win back celebrity chef - (blah blah blah...)
http://arts.nationalpost.com/2013/08/12/charles-saatchi-made-suicide-threats-in-an-attempt-to-win-back-tv-chef-nigella-lawson-u-k-paper-reports/
Using Trust Law Charles Saatchi is essentially using a protocol and strategy which involves turning the tables on her (using the "unclean hands" maxim...) (an equity interpretation in trust, i.e. she smoked crack, the character assassination is consistent with this interpretation, and falls under the same strategy. This guy is using trust interpretation, through and through... to his advantage... (not to worry the Judge will know what is going on...) Sadly even trust can be abused, but it is also more transparent when it is...
Otherwise explain to me, how a guy who is photographed in the public, throttling his wife, can then repeatedly phone her and harass her AFTER being charged with assault??... Did this just completely go over everyone head??? Did anybody not catch this??? Point is... just because most people don't know what a "nisi decree" is doesn't mean that they don't exist, heck I know I couldn't pull that off, but it doesn't become the basis of a "logical argument that it "doesn't exist", nor am I going to retreat into denial and say "I don't buy it, simply because I am too ignorant to know how to apply it myself. I have plenty of clear evidence it EXISTS, my lack isn't an argument for arguing the negative, that would be a vacuous argument indeed. I wouldn't even consider putting myself in such a position. Truth be told...
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:50 PMSubject: Nisi Decree
for supporting context, check out:091107 – MB&T.NTT – Debut NTT – 02.mp3 http://www.4shared.com/mp3/KxwzkQ3S/091107_-_MBTNTT_-_Debut_NTT_-_.html
(excerpt from this Library) http://www.4shared.com/folder/vo3VIWx9/Trust.html
Start listening at approx. 1:00:00 (where it’s worth listening to) - a guy (Liar, Liar) starts talking about a nisi decree:
here is a summation: Interim Decree from a court (which is really you... not the judge!) It’s purpose is to deliver something from the private side to the public side and can be followed up with a Notice of Acceptance and Default (or similar)
In this case it’s applied to a private settlement for example - since it is interim it doesn’t become absolute until the other party fails to show why they shouldn’t have to follow it (which Nigella would have been oblivious to...) - then it is absolute , unconditional, and it stands
And once this becomes absolute, that party can then put in a "Show Order" against the decree that the 'Court' (himself again) demanded
Now, the other side has to follow... AND they will already be in contempt!...
And just by another coincidence, there are other people picking up on this, concept as well, I posted another article, in response to someone else who actually understands that ALL property registered in the public is "owned" by the State. It's the very denial of people who refuse to comprehend this is why they are under control of it... not a perfect understanding, but this guy is showing "awareness" Willingness to expand his understanding... cheers
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70728-What-The-US-Government-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-The-Driver-s-License&p=846837&viewfull=1#post846837
gripreaper
8th August 2014, 06:16
And if you claim it, you are the defacto trustee. The trustee is liable. So, why does most everyone clammer to own things and assume liability?
I'm the name, I'm not the name, I'm the corporation, I'm not the corporation, I'm a citizen, I'm not the citizen, I'm the birth certificate, I'm not the birth certificate...blah...blah..blah...
Why claim anything? Why put the burden of proof on yourself? You become immediately liable.
sigma6
9th August 2014, 13:48
And if you claim it, you are the defacto trustee. The trustee is liable. So, why does most everyone clammer to own things and assume liability?
I'm the name, I'm not the name, I'm the corporation, I'm not the corporation, I'm a citizen, I'm not the citizen, I'm the birth certificate, I'm not the birth certificate...blah...blah..blah...
Why claim anything? Why put the burden of proof on yourself? You become immediately liable.
...might we want to present the BC, and express the trust/our relationship to it, etc?)that worked in a Virginia case-- got it second hand from friend that talked to the guy. He rolled in to "court" with small white flag (neutral non-combatant) I think it was minor traffic case, "judge" called his name- he said "joe...
[2:04:27 AM] Joe said "I believe this is the defendant you are looking for...." and handed certified copy of BC to bailiff. He said I'm not the trustee for that person, I'm the beneficiary. I don't think he ever gave his full name (first and last) as I believe that is consent to jurisdiction if no restrictive statement is said before you say the full name. I believe it is at that time you consent to jurisdiction if you don't make any prefatory statements.
[2:05:08 AM] Anyway... after the "judge' examined the BC for about 2 min. she said to the prosecutor "nolle prosse this case...." (don't prosecute) and it was done and over
[2:05:43 AM] So, I get where you are going and if we had a dozen people test this in a dozen cases we would have a good sample size to see what "worked" and what didn't...
Granted Grip, but this is a "perception" that took me several years to be able to "see", It requires wearing special "glasses" (eyes of equity...lol) It's good to keep reminding myself how difficult it must be for others to "see" something that sounds so utterly fantastic, so foreign to their everyday thinking, the implications that when they walk into a court they are being played for complete fools about to have their wallets picked to satisfy the hunger of a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. That even the kind gestures and seemingly smiling good nature is just a ruse... must be hard for a lot of people to take... (and it gets blocked out...)
Nonetheless...
You are the holder of a Certificate of an "entity", that is very much like a "Corporation", that has been set up as a trust with the State. That entity is the LEGAL OWNER, much like a trust can hold property. YOU are NOT the legal owner of anything YOU have REGISTERED to a PUBLIC REGISTRAR! You are the certificate holder to the "Corporation" that is the owner. You have a security interest. That may help you better see what is going on.
Then you must start contemplating WHAT are all the IMPLICATIONs of that...
Start with the simplest observations and do research to verify this. Believe me the best place to start is the Birth Certificate, (and don't move forward until you are an expert in understanding what that document is...) Look up as many 'legal' definitions of "certificate" "security" "person" "cestui que trust" I will try to add a list of these basic starting point definitions.
sigma6
10th August 2014, 20:46
Oh, this is just too rich to leave out, I have always wondered what happened to Grace Powers? Producer of Empire Of the City - World Superstate aka The Ring Of Power
One of the first and foremost conspiracy theory documentaries to go viral. That tied 911 to a systematic and ruthless hidden cabal of power brokers, namely the The Vatican, Inner City of London and Washington DC. That then goes to Israel and then all throughout history all the way back to Ancient Egypt as it was being overtaken by the Roman Empire. Brilliant... Who would have thought such a chain of connection could be so clearly elucidated.
Seems she has her own little site and is busily making her DVDs bless her rebellious big heart. I hope she is doing well. She deserves it for creating that work alone. If you can find it in your heart to support her you should, I think this stuff is cutting edge. She definitely needs more exposure and I these DVDs are pure meat and potatoes.
Grace Powers
Help Free The Earth
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/
"Evil King Zion"... (better enjoy, her stuff doesn't stay up long and is hard to find... )
ZAnUS3GHfMk
gripreaper
12th August 2014, 03:01
Grace Powers
Help Free The Earth
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/
"Evil King Zion"... (better enjoy, her stuff doesn't stay up long and is hard to find... )
ZAnUS3GHfMk
I'll bookmark it sigma and watch it later this weekend.
observer
18th August 2014, 00:45
From another thread (Re: Child Sacrifice Aborted; Satanists Arrested; Cargill, Sinclair Executives ImplicatedHoping this is true (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73934-Child-Sacrifice-Aborted-Satanists-Arrested-Cargill-Sinclair-Executives-ImplicatedHoping-this-is-true&p=866336&viewfull=1#post866336)) , here's more from The International Common Law Court of Justice (ICLCJ):
Though I'm unsure about "Before It's News, " I'm hoping this is true:
http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2014/08/child-sacrifice-aborted-satanists-arrested-cargill-sinclair-executives-implicated-2467466.html Note: Link Corrected
It appears as though there are actually some successful arrests.
observer
19th August 2014, 15:17
Again, from another thread (Re: Child Sacrifice Aborted; Satanists Arrested; Cargill, Sinclair Executives ImplicatedHoping this is true (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73934-Child-Sacrifice-Aborted-Satanists-Arrested-Cargill-Sinclair-Executives-ImplicatedHoping-this-is-true&p=866336&viewfull=1#post866336)), here's more from The International Common Law Court of Justice (ICLCJ):
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In the case of an indictment handed-down by a Citizens Tribunal, a Citizen's Arrest is quite legal as long as the guide-lines are followed.
From Here: http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/C/CitizensArrest.aspx
"The authority for physically detaining another person varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction but in most cases, involves the surrender of the suspect to the police as soon as possible as well as use of only such reasonable force as is necessary to contain the individual and prevent escape."
With regard to the authority of The International Common Law Court of Justice, ICLCJ consists of a team of legal advisors from over 26 different countries.
From here: http://iclcj.com/
"Natural and Customary Law allows for the establishment of popular courts of justice when the existing legal and governmental authorities are subverting the law and justice, or aiding those who do. Common Law arose historically to uphold the liberties of the people against tyranny, whether religious or secular, and accordingly, has universal jurisdiction when convened as a jury court by more than twelve duly sworn men and women.
Although many members believe this Court has no authority, ultimately any legal system is compelled to hear their evidence, and take custody of any individuals arrested.
If the legal system of authority is so corrupt that all charges are dropped, than I believe you have an argument, kemo. But, does anyone really believe any charges will be dismissed after the public hears the facts of this case?
This is why we, the citizens, must make this information available, far and wide.
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Research References:
Kevin Annett: ITCCS takes down Satanic sacrifice. Exposes Cargill,Sinclair Oil,Bishop,McGill -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNmxtoN1YyM&feature=youtu.be
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Aspen
13th September 2014, 20:33
I have been following Kevin Annet for a number of years now and very much appreciate the work he has done and is doing. He recently posted a video that was life changing for me. It was a two hour video of testimony from a witness in the court case mentioned at the start of this thread. Maybe the video will have a transformative effect on others as well. I caution people that it contains graphic details of childhood sexual abuse and torture at the hands of the elite. So I would caution anyone who had been sexually abused in the past not to watch it unless they have done major amounts of healing work. It was inspirational to see the courage and resilience of the woman telling her story. I am a trauma therapist so have heard some stories like this, but nothing that showed me the depths of depravity and evil depicted in this video. It has helped me to realize and accept that persons at this level of depravity really do exist and have for hundreds of years. http://itccs.org/category/toos-nijenhuis/ I believe that their efforts to bring the truth to light will continue to awaken many people. Momentum is building in my own country regarding the plight of missing and murdered aboriginal women. I am sure this is partly due to the hard work of Kevin Annet and the international common law court.
Unfortunately, due to recent events, I no longer believe Annett is credible. Alfred Webre has exposed Annett's International Tribunal as fraudulent. ANnett has responded by threatening to sue Webre, instead of presenting evidence that could easily clear him of the accusations.
sigma6
14th September 2014, 08:07
There is no doubt in my mind he is changing lives, and ultimately he will be remembered for changing the world... given the content and context of his information, it's just a matter of time... he's a very brave and courageous man. it's people like him that should be put into positions of great power and authority, not these pederastic satan worshipping idiots, who got in because they slept with a midget and gave someone a secret handshake...
Maia Gabrial
14th September 2014, 15:48
It's worth noting that the 'sheriffs' in question have no legal authority to detain anyone.
And the 'warrants' were issued by the 'International Common Law Court', which has no legal authority and no enforcement authority. TE]
I'd say you bought into the lie completely, Curt that none of us have any authority. We ALL have authority, it's called SOVEREIGNTY. These people are legal. All laws are based in Common Law. I think you're kidding yourself....
If this weren't a legal path, why are they scrambling with their assassins to murder these people?
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