Don't mention Dr. Judy Wood

[Observer1964]

Interview about the work of Dr. Judy Wood (not with). She did the only real research into the cause of the destruction of the Twin Towers written with any scientific weight. Dr. Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez speaks about his experiences with censorship. A reference to Wikipedia was removed in 2 minutes. She also can not be mentioned on many other prominent sites on 9/11. A ban may be the result of mentioning her name.

Wood presents in her book "Where did the towers go?" her conclusion that a weapon was used in the category; Directed eneregy-Weapons. The idea that such a thing exsists should not occur to you.

Dr. Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez on Field Interference - Draw Your Conclusions From The Evidence

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[Observer1964]

Why Did James Fetzer Menace Dr Judy Wood Over Directed Energy Weapons

This raises serious questions , James Fetzer controls most of the narritive in main stream media , but if you look back 6 years you see James Fetzer mimicking Dr Judy Wood points endlessly . So why the flip and why the threats to silence Dr Woods , Fetzers has no issue with Dr Steven Jones , Dr Greg Jenkins , Dr Neils Harrit , Alienscientist , because they repeat the same lines for a decade about 911 .
Dr Judy Woods gives you endless amount of new info all of it backed up . So why does everyone flock to Jim Fetzers associates and why do they ignore Dr Judy Woods remarkable research , remember James Fetzer is not a engineer he teaches language .

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[AndrewJohnson]

I've written a lot about Architects and Engineers for 911 Lies.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=340&Itemid=60

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=329&Itemid=60

Matt Naus's experience.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=367&Itemid=60

Richard Gage is, indeed a liar (when it comes to 911 evidence) - listen to this clip

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/911/Richard%20Gage%20Witchcraft%20Nuutjob%20-%20Ralph%20Winterrowd%20-%2008%20May%202011.mp3

Then look at this image http://www.checktheevidence.com/images/Richard%20Gage%20WDTTG%20Cheque%20etc.jpg

http://www.checktheevidence.com/images/Richard%20Gage%20WDTTG%20Cheque%20etc.jpg

Is it any wonder people don't know this when somehow, Gage manages to do 30-date tours in the US and Canada

from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!! I think it's time for a tax audit...Just a thought, you know...

http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_01_EO/26-1532493_990_201212.pdf

[Cidersomerset]

I can understand why Richard Gage does not want to engage in
Dr.Woods work. I watched a lot of his presentations a few years
ago, and they were putting a logical argument that thermite
was used and made it clear the official reason presented by
NIST was flawed at best ,deliberate lies and dis info at worst.

For a lot of researchers that's as far as they will go, for them
to go into realms of directed energy weapons and all the questions
that go with that is a step to far , even if they may think about
it privately. When Richard Gage and other went on TV with
their theories he was met mainly with indifference, disbelief
and sceptism. But some at least listened and did not dismiss
him out of hand. If he went on to discuss Dr,Woods work on
any mainstream media, with out studying her work it
would be a recipe for ridicule and put the overall case
that 9/11 was an inside job back into the realms of fantacy.

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I personally think Dr.Judy woods info is legit and
have posted several threads about it......




This is a very good interview introducing Dr.Woods going over some of her
terms and observations and is not to technical. Easy for everyone to understand.
Obviously her presentations go in to much more scientific details.....


Dr. Judy Wood Goes #OffTheGrid [Part 1] | Jesse Ventura Off The Grid - Ora TV



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Published on 30 Apr 2014


The Governor's weeklong investigation into the 9/11 attacks continues...and this is
the episode you've been waiting for. It's Jesse's no-holds barred interview with
none-other than Dr. Judy Wood, author of his Book of the Month selection (and
widely debated), "Where Did The Towers Go?" Nothing is off-limits in this wide-
ranging discussion -- both the Governor and Dr. Wood take on the naysayers, the
doubters and even the truthers. What do you make of Dr. Wood's research? The
debate continues at ora.tv/offthegrid.


Dr. Judy Wood Goes #OffTheGrid [Part 2] | Jesse Ventura Off The Grid - Ora TV

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[AndrewJohnson]

John Lear has got some things right and some things wrong. Best to check it out carefully. http://www.drjudywood.com/ or even better http://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com/

[Cidersomerset]

If you are from my generation the idea of orbiting weapons platforms is
more likely than not......

What if the funding was not pulled and taken under the wing
of the secret space programme ? or other agency.....

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/star-wars.jpg


1983 Reagan Announces Star Wars Missile Defense

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M A D.......Mutual assured Destruction......

In the film below, lasers are briefly mentioned.....




HIGH FRONTIER - Ronald Reagan , Star Wars , SDI Publicity Film 3311

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Published on 27 Sep 2012


High Frontier was a private company that promoted space-based strategic defense
against nuclear ICBMs. It was founded by Daniel O. Graham, a retired lieutenant
general in the U.S. Army who is often called the "father of SDI". This film promotes
Graham's initiative: a kinetic-energy weapon that could take out Soviet ICBMs as
they flew towards the USA. It seemed plausible enough, but eventually the SDI
plan diverged from High Frontier. The final SDI plan as put forward by Reagan's
team relied on directed energy technologies such as lasers and particle beams to
achieve shoot-downs, and even then it proved so challenging as to never be
deployed.

This film is part of the Periscope Film LLC archive, one of the largest historic
military, transportation, and aviation stock footage collections in the USA. Entirely
film backed, this material is available for licensing in 24p HD. For more information
visit http://www.PeriscopeFilm.com

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President Ronald Reagan mentions Alien Threat at Fallston_ UN & National Strategy Forum


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Published on 26 May 2012


http://youtu.be/cewABtsELa0
President Ronald Reagan mentions Alien Threat at Fallston, UN & National Strategy Forum

Uploaded by zzapamiga on Oct 4, 2011
12/4/1985 President Reagan remarks to students and faculty. Fallston High School.
Fallston, Maryland.

9/21/1987 President Reagan's Address to The General Assembly. General Assembly
Hall United Nations. New York.

5/4/1988 President Reagan's Address to Members and Guests of National Strategy
Forum. Grand Ballroom Palmer House. Chicago, Illinois.

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Strategic Defence Initiative Star Wars
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Published on 9 Feb 2012


Strategic Defence Initiative Star Wars. Old Video I found. Quite interesting. SDI
would have worked. It was well on it's way before funding was pulled.



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Who knows what is up there now......

Star Wars: The Next Generation

http://www.greatdreams.com/war/lostinspace.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vkx5uq6MZLE/TxxGOKRdpZI/AAAAAAAAGTM/ZTORUILru8M/s1600/The+Tr-3B+Astra+airplane+1+top+secret+airplanes.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

John Lear has got some things right and some things wrong. Best to check it out carefully. http://www.drjudywood.com/ or even better http://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com/

Yeah when I posted that I was looking for a relatively light response, that's before
I realised an expert on this subject was looking in ....LOL

I changed the John Lear vid .........


Nice to see you add your knowledge to this subject........

[spiritguide]

This issue has been debated here in many different posts. Nothing new in the debate except the russians have brought info along with Sandia labs. No one is discrediting Dr. Woods they have just outlined the type of energy weapon used and have pointed out the case of the increased cancer from nuclear contamination at the area of ground Zero. It's all to be found at Veterans Today web site.

Peace!

[AndrewJohnson]

This issue has been debated here in many different posts. Nothing new in the debate except the russians have brought info along with Sandia labs. No one is discrediting Dr. Woods they have just outlined the type of energy weapon used and have pointed out the case of the increased cancer from nuclear contamination at the area of ground Zero. It's all to be found at Veterans Today web site.

Peace!

It may have been discussed before - but not in a way which dispels the disinfo associated with thermite, nukes etc - and what is actually in Dr Wood's book etc.

Ah - of course! The site run for CIA Veterans! It's has 100% accurate information, right? It being run by Gordon Duff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

Would you trust it for accurate information on 9/11? Have you read my free book? http://tinyurl.com/911ftb Listen to it if you like.

Nukes? Did you not look at the contents page posted above? It's addressed in the book and I addressed it in 2008 and several times since:

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=347&Itemid=60


The cancer in first responders was not the result of ionising radiation from "hot nukes" - it is most likely the result of them inhaling dustified buildings' contents. But Vets today and mainstream will not admit this is what happened - because doing so unravels so many sets of lies - in quite an unequivocal way.

So which "spirit" is guiding you Spiritguide? Is the spirit guiding you to the truth? I do hope so.

How refreshing it would be to see spiritguide post on this thread in a few weeks' time and say "Thanks Andrew for posting the links - I have now studied them and know the truth - I didn't believe it at first but now I KNOW." Trouble is most people prefers belief over knowledge and "discussion and debate" over careful analysis of pertinent details.

[spiritguide]

How refreshing it would be to see spiritguide post on this thread in a few weeks' time and say "Thanks Andrew for posting the links - I have now studied them and know the truth - I didn't believe it at first but now I KNOW." Trouble is most people prefers belief over knowledge and "discussion and debate" over careful analysis of pertinent details.

Truth is relevant. There are many truths and mine are as realistic, as experienced, as any others. Apparently you discount others knowledge of science as well. No problem, go for it. Just posted about previous articles on the different scientific perspectives on the subject for discernment.

Peace!

[ThePythonicCow]

From 2001 until about 2008, I bought into the official story on 9/11.

For the last several years, I've trusted Judy Wood's research above all others.

My current (and fairly recent) view is that while Judy Wood's research on the destruction of the WTC towers remains far and away the best, however Gordon Duff (who self admittedly tells untruths fairly often) is likely also substantially correct in stating that he has received reports from the Russians of the use of small nuclear bombs provided by Israel, and that these reports from the Russians are themselves substantially correct.

The key to my apparently inconsistent view is that nuclear bombs, directed energy weapons and "scalar physics" have more overlap than we usually realize. Nukes can cause strange effects, such as those observed by Hutchinson (using very different means, on a much smaller scale) and nukes apparently can be engineered to have a limited and fairly well defined range and nature of effect.

My present view is that the "directed energy" weapons responsible for the dustification of the towers consisted substantially or primarily of highly engineered nuclear bombs, emitting an intense neutron flux from various positions in the core of the towers sufficient to disassociate (dustify) the molecular bonds of most of the materials in the towers, including human bodies, concrete and steel, but not so much paper.

Whether these same bombs caused all of the more remote effects, such as toasted cars, or whether some other scalar physics mechanism caused those particular effects... I am presently quite undecided. Certainly other means were involved as well for some of the more remote effects, as evidenced by the strange behaviour of hurricane Erin.

There were enough explosions, fireballs and other strange effects, from the time of initial (apparent) airplane impact until the final dustification, and following in the WTC complex and its victims for years following, that it is a near certainty that multiple mechanisms were used.

Certainly, in any case, an immense amount of energy was required, in a very short period of time (10 seconds to dustify each tower) to disassociate that many molecular bonds. As anyone who has ever imagined trying to turn even one cinder block into talcum powder fine dust using a sledge hammer will likely realize, that's "hard work" ... a lot of hard work.

Also, certainly, Judy Wood has been getting more flak than more or less any 9/11 researcher out there. This however does not necessarily mean that she is exactly "over the target", as the bastards in power know well the propensity of those of us trying to think and research outside of their boxes to associate "getting flak" with "being over the target." The mechanical engineering, determined and disciplined research, integrity, and analysis skills of Judy are all unmatched in this arena. She does not however, so far as I am aware, claim to be a world class expert on nuclear weapons, directed energy or their underlying scalar physics.

Thank-you Andrew, and especially thank-you Judy, for all you've done and continue to do to investigate this central aspect of 9/11.

[Lifebringer]

Why Did James Fetzer Menace Dr Judy Wood Over Directed Energy Weapons

This raises serious questions , James Fetzer controls most of the narritive in main stream media , but if you look back 6 years you see James Fetzer mimicking Dr Judy Wood points endlessly . So why the flip and why the threats to silence Dr Woods , Fetzers has no issue with Dr Steven Jones , Dr Greg Jenkins , Dr Neils Harrit , Alienscientist , because they repeat the same lines for a decade about 911 .
Dr Judy Woods gives you endless amount of new info all of it backed up . So why does everyone flock to Jim Fetzers associates and why do they ignore Dr Judy Woods remarkable research , remember James Fetzer is not a engineer he teaches language .

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I think it's because they are afraid of the people finding out and slowly taking them out where ever their shadow is. I get that as the reason and as its dead on. The people would go after them there wouldn't be enough people on the force that would support murdering Americans on their own soil, to start a ME war. Of course they would be hung from the lamp posts on Main St. Possibly in front of a church, they've taken their money and screwed over it too. Probably threatened their families because they couldn't shut them up. Ooooo, this makes me so ready to incarcerate them for the penguin walk, they have no shame. How long Father, how long?

[mojo]

still bummed the supreme "jesters" I mean court wont' take Dr Judy Woods case even when she applied for whistle-blower status. Imagine the program failed her when presenting waste fraud & abuse, and now who would use the whislte blower program today. We have some great new examples, the IRS and Veteran affairs...hope the pres, congress & courts have a great summer vacation... they earned it...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I wasn't aware of Dr. Judy Wood or Dr. Fred Bell's research until a few months before Dr. Fred Bell was killed.
And at this time had not connected the names to the concepts.

I woke up one morning believing that the WTC towers had been compromised by wireless electronic technology,
could not shake the impression, and before long Google had hooked me up with the webpage of a certain "John Hutchison".

I think it was the summer after 2012 Super Bowl that we found out via Jesse Ventura's show that there's a growing movement of scientists who support the "no touch demo" theory.

@_@

It's kind of like a scavenger hunt when you get one of these impressions -- you know the rough concept of what you're looking for but things still get missed.

I really appreciate anyone willing to talk about/reintroduce the theories of any of these 3 people...

[Snoweagle]

From 2001 until about 2008, I bought into the official story on 9/11.

For the last several years, I've trusted Judy Wood's research above all others.

My current (and fairly recent) view is that while Judy Wood's research on the destruction of the WTC towers remains far and away the best, however Gordon Duff (who self admittedly tells untruths fairly often) is likely also substantially correct in stating that he has received reports from the Russians of the use of small nuclear bombs provided by Israel, and that these reports from the Russians are themselves substantially correct.

The key to my apparently inconsistent view is that nuclear bombs, directed energy weapons and "scalar physics" have more overlap than we usually realize. Nukes can cause strange effects, such as those observed by Hutchinson (using very different means, on a much smaller scale) and nukes apparently can be engineered to have a limited and fairly well defined range and nature of effect.

My present view is that the "directed energy" weapons responsible for the dustification of the towers consisted substantially or primarily of highly engineered nuclear bombs, emitting an intense neutron flux from various positions in the core of the towers sufficient to disassociate (dustify) the molecular bonds of most of the materials in the towers, including human bodies, concrete and steel, but not so much paper.

Whether these same bombs caused some of the more remote effects, such as toasted cars, or whether some other scalar physics mechanism caused those ... I am presently quite undecided. Certainly other means were involved as well, as evidenced by the strange behaviour of hurricane Erin.

There were enough explosions, fireballs and other strange effects, from the time of initial (apparent) airplane impact until the final dustification, and following in the WTC complex and its victims for years following, that it is a near certainty that multiple mechanisms were used.

Certainly, in any case, an immense amount of energy was required, in a very short period of time (10 seconds to dustify each tower) to disassociate that many molecular bonds. As anyone who has ever imagined trying to turn even one cinder block into talcum powder fine dust using a sledge hammer will likely realize, that's "hard work" ... a lot of hard work.

Also, certainly, Judy Wood has been getting more flak than more or less any 9/11 researcher out there. This however does not necessarily mean that she is exactly "over the target", as the bastards in power know well the propensity of those of us trying to think and research outside of their boxes to associate "getting flak" with "being over the target." The mechanical engineering, determined and disciplined research, integrity, and analysis skills of Judy are all unmatched in this arena. She does not however, so far as I am aware, claim to be a world class expert on nuclear weapons, directed energy or their underlying scalar physics.

Thank-you Andrew, and especially thank-you Judy, for all you've done and continue to do to investigate this central aspect of 9/11.

Awesome post, great summary.
The weapons used are space based "communications satellites". Clearly having remote tunable oscillators does have a military advantage.

When the next war starts, and it will soon, these will be the weapons of choice to simulate "nuclear bombs". A simple airborne "white" EMP explosion coincident or timed to coincide with a targeted satellite electromagnetic scalar discharge could destroy a city. Actually, the product of interference of scalar waves produces neutrons, so it would be quite fair to call the discharge a neutron ray. And neutron waves will disassociate biological tissue. Exterminates life.

This weapon was used in the second Gulf War against the Iraqi soldiers at Baghdad airport before the American GIs arrived. The Iraqi soldiers were boiled in their own bodies. Skulls exploded from the brain boiling. Bodies evaporated of all its body water leaving a previous six foot man as a two foot heap of compacted flesh.

Am a great supporter of Dr Judy Woods work, it is a disgrace to the Science community that she be left to stand alone.

So, when WWIII starts (Ukraine, Gaza) and there are NO reports of satellites crashing to Earth then you know that weapon is still to be played. Everyone carry's a mobile phone, handy locator for targeting. Forests would be good places to hide but alas the same weapons are being used to set them alight to. Fish stocks are being obliterated by the same weapons as well, that's why those whales and dolphins are running aground mentally blinded and burned. Ancient sites of antiquity are located, weather control and earthquakes as well. These weapons are vile.

Thank Tesla. He didn't trust his American peers so he gave it to their (our) "Masters". Oh the irony.

To have some understanding of the energy available for scalar weapon satellites that are being used against us in so many evil ways, can be found in the following thread posted by Paul depicting Dr Michael Claradge at the Electric Universe Conference earlier this year.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71066-The-Earth-s-Electric-Environment--EU2014-

[Cidersomerset]

John Lear has got some things right and some things wrong. Best to check it out carefully. http://www.drjudywood.com/ or even better http://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com/



This is a very good presentation.....


Dr. Judy Wood - Breakthrough Energy Movement conference in Holland, 2012

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Dr Judy Wood - Several good interviews in early 2013

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57234-Dr-Judy-Wood-Several-good-interviews-in-early-2013

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"Where Did The Towers Go?" - Dr Judy Wood in the UK....Sky 200 TV with Theo Chalmers.



One Step Beyond TV show with Theo Chalmers on SKY 200 in the U.K..25 /10/2011

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41614-Where-Did-The-Towers-Go-Dr-Judy-Wood-in-the-UK....Sky-200-TV-with-Theo-Chalmers

[Cidersomerset]

This interesting...........Not space lasers but aircraft lasers...
Then print your own warhead .....

Lasers may allow civilian airliners to fend off missiles

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Published on 31 Jul 2014


With the recent downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, many are
once again questioning what can be done to protect civilian aircraft
from missiles and other projectiles. The idea gaining the most traction
is equipping airliners with anti-missile defense systems mounted on
the belly of the crafts. Using lasers, the systems would lock onto
incoming projectiles and scramble their electronics, causing them to
explode a safe distance from the plane. RT’s Manila Chan takes a look
at the evolving technology and its implementation.

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Army looks at 3D printing warheads

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Published on 30 Jul 2014


3D printing may soon revolutionize warfare. The Army is working on a project
to “print” warheads, modernizing the manufacturing process of the complex
devices that have not dramatically changed since WWII. Allowing for intricate
designs to control “detonation physics,” blasts radiuses and other aspects of
the explosive capsules can be tailor-made for specific circumstances. RT’s
Meghan Lopez takes a look at the innovative plans

[iceni tribe]

i stopped listening to the Judy and Andrew show when they repeatedly deny the 3 months of heat in the pile ,Glen Stout,Charles Vitchers and Robert Gray who were at ground zero for 9 months during the clean up operation, and they tell us that when they were pulling the steel from the pile it was still cherry red and the firefighters would have to continually spray the beams before they could load them on the trucks.
As Robert was the crane operator and Charles Vitchers was the man in charge of the clean up operation i would go with their testimony,which is in their book 9 months at ground zero ............check the evidence Andrew

[ThePythonicCow]

i stopped listening to the Judy and Andrew show when they repeatedly deny the 3 months of heat in the pile
If you stop listening to everyone who, in your view, gets something clearly wrong ... you must be living a quiet life :). We all get stuff wrong, in the light of our own hindsight or others insight ... and most of us (at least myself) do so rather frequently.

[Mac]

Aint dat the truth ! Paul.Imo it's what shapes us keeps us growing.

[jerry]

I've written a lot about Architects and Engineers for 911 Lies.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=340&Itemid=60

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=329&Itemid=60

Matt Naus's experience.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=367&Itemid=60

Richard Gage is, indeed a liar (when it comes to 911 evidence) - listen to this clip

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/911/Richard%20Gage%20Witchcraft%20Nuutjob%20-%20Ralph%20Winterrowd%20-%2008%20May%202011.mp3

Then look at this image http://www.checktheevidence.com/images/Richard%20Gage%20WDTTG%20Cheque%20etc.jpg

http://www.checktheevidence.com/images/Richard%20Gage%20WDTTG%20Cheque%20etc.jpg

Is it any wonder people don't know this when somehow, Gage manages to do 30-date tours in the US and Canada

from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!! I think it's time for a tax audit...Just a thought, you know...

http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_01_EO/26-1532493_990_201212.pdf
You have to approach the topic with KID GLOVES while Judy has all the stuff , its not something most of the public will give a second look at before dismissing it, Gage has it straight and anyone who will try to discredit this man is most likely a shill and has an agenda like all the others who don't buy this was an inside job

[jerry]

"Is it any wonder people don't know this when somehow, Gage manages to do 30-date tours in the US and Canada

from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!! I think it's time for a tax audit...Just a thought, you know..."


This is laughable to anyone that has any "smidget" (as Obama would say) of what it cost to run the campaign Gage has run. Banners, Billboards, Books, Flyers ect, ect ,ect, its called expenses .I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's spent a lot of his own money .

[jerry]

How in the hell can you help a campaign by attacking one with the same objective at hand. And yes I get it, he took the stuff of Judy off his site ....start your own site and leave their work alone. He has made millions more awake and aware than she has. When you compare the 2 side by side, Gage makes sense to more people than Judy does, even though she may have it nailed. Anyway Gage doesn't give himself any time on the topic of the twin towers, his focus is building 7. ITS CONVINCING EVEN TO STUPID PEOPLE. BECAUSE people don't get space age weapons and the arm chair critics will dismiss it without a second look. So the point I want to make here is that any who are for adding the fringe in with the understandable, are most likely part of a campaign for the scoundrels and probably nothing more than paid shills.

[Oouthere]

Just a little evidence that at least one of Judy's "beamed" cars was moved to a different location which suggest only fire damage.

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Richard Gage also withdrew his support of CIT concerning no plane impact of the Pentagon after further investigation. I think too often we veer from common sense and physical evidence and instead grasp at what we want to believe happened.

I still cannot fathom how people can believe no plane hit the Pentagon when there are pictures of aircraft debris inside and outside.

http://www.rense.com/general32/Damage9.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/landinggear002.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/aedrive6.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/trou1moyenne.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/pentagonplanetire.jpg

And don't forget John Judge (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/PAandAAF77.html) knew a flight attendant that was supposed to have been on the flight that impacted the Pentagon, but she missed the flight due to her father being ill. The flight attendant identified her best friend's severed arm by the bracelet.

John (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/PAandAAF77.html) also mentions about a lady that could not talk after the impact, a piece of landing gear had partially sheered off the passenger side of her car.

And don't forget planes do burn.

http://911review.com/reviews/physics911/missing_wings/docs/afc_747fire1.jpg

And not all witnesses are right. April Gallop was seen leaving a set of normally locked double doors by SSgt Braman and at least another female I cannot currently identify, not through the impact hole as she claims. Besides, she can walk through fire? SSgt Braman had his lungs damaged from the jet fuel, complete opposite of what April claims. In her initial interview (http://bluecollarrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/neit214.pdf), she stated she did not remember how she got out of the building, only waking-up up at a hospital after finding her baby in the rubble. Memory loss is typical in a concussion of which she stated she received.

[AndrewJohnson]

. Apparently you discount others knowledge of science as well. No problem, go for it. Just posted about previous articles on the different scientific perspectives on the subject for discernment.

Peace!

Oh - where do you get that idea from? Is pointing out that 2 + 2=4 "discounting someone else's knowledge" when they claim 2+2=5? Do I take it from your post that you are not willing to read my book and therefore make more statements based on assumptions rather than evidence and truth? If that is the case, just say "I am not going to read your book because I don't want to." Then at least we will all know where we stand - and that's fine. It would then just make it clearer that you are not actually making statements based on the truth, only on your assumptions of what it might or might not be.

[ThePythonicCow]

Apparently you discount others knowledge of science as well.


It would then just make it clearer that you are not actually making statements based on the truth.

Seems that we've gotten distracted from the important topic by some more personal evaluations. Looking back on this thread, I can see where each of you might have good reason to figure that the other one "started it".

Nevermind who started it ... I'm hoping that I can end it ... here :).

[ThePythonicCow]

I still cannot fathom how people can believe no plane hit the Pentagon when there are pictures of aircraft debris inside and outside.
Judy Wood has not analyzed the Pentagon much, so far as I recall, so that's a bit off topic for this thread.

Also keep in mind that some of us are not claiming that no "flying airplane like object" hit the Pentagon ... just that it wasn't American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757-223, nor any similar such passenger jet.

:focus:

[iceni tribe]

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What we have here is nick-named the pit a massive amount of concrete went into the pit and the bedrock has been vitrified, in layman’s terms it means there was so much heat generated in this one spot the rock actually melted.

Dr. Christopher Busby is one of the preeminent experts on nuclear fallout and radiation.

Dr. Chris Busby is director of the independent environmental consultancy, Green Audit. He has a first-class Honours degree in Chemistry from London University and a PhD in chemical physics from the University of Kent. He is Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk and a member of the UK Department of Health Committee Examining Radiation Risk for Internal Emitters (CERRIE).
Chris also sits on the UK Ministry of Defence Depleted Uranium Oversight Board and is National Speaker on Science and Technology for the Green Party of England and Wales. Chris is a fellow of the University of Liverpool in the Faculty of Medicine. He is also scientific advisor of the Low Level Radiation Campaign which he helped to set up in 1995.

Here is a snip from a translated radio interview with host Jim Fetzer and Leuren Moret who is an independent geoscientist and Dr Busby, the whole interview can be read at the link below the interview is titled, New Bombs and War Crimes in Fallujah and what is being discussed is a new weapon.

Dr. Busby: Well, that is an interesting question there and it has to do with this story of tritium in the water in the basement of the Twin Towers. Now if you look at tritium in the Twin Towers, there is a proper, peer reviewed scientific paper by a number of quite eminent chemical analysts who measured the concentration of the element tritium, which is a form of radioactive hydrogen [used in nuclear weapons and produced in some nuclear reactions] in the basement waters of the Twin Towers, and they concluded that the amount of tritium there was absolutely impossible – it could not have got there except as a consequence of some “unusual happening”.

http://www.veteranst...es-in-fallujah/

9.11.10 by Claire Calladine, 9/11 Health Now- Brian Cosmello was the quintessential All-American--former U of PA fullback with an economics degree and a hot job on Wall St. Then 9/11 struck: A bystander caught in the dust cloud during the building collapse, Cosmello survived only to return to his job two blocks from Ground Zero for the next seven months. Eight years later at the age of 31, Cosmello was diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia his doctors attribute directly to 9/11 toxins...

Snip from article

Mind swirling from the diagnosis, Cosmello began fielding questions from the doctors: What is your profession? “Finance and investments.” Has this always been your profession? “Yes.” Where did you practice? “For the past seven years in Charlotte NC; before that, two years in the New York-New Jersey area.” Have you ever been exposed to radiation of any sort? “Excuse me?” Did your profession have you handling certain types of equipment or machinery that may have inadvertently exposed you to radiation or chemicals of any sort? “No. What? No!”


http://www.911health...Responders.html

lots more articles here

http://www.911health...thnow/Home.html

[Hervé]

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What we have here is nick-named the pit a massive amount of concrete went into the pit and the bedrock has been vitrified, in layman’s terms it means there was so much heat generated in this one spot the rock actually melted.

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Honestly I don't see vitrified rocks.

What I see are differentially eroded bedrock layers to a high polished sheen, either via water or ice (presumably both).

[iceni tribe]

i stopped listening to the Judy and Andrew show when they repeatedly deny the 3 months of heat in the pile
If you stop listening to everyone who, in your view, gets something clearly wrong ... you must be living a quiet life :). We all get stuff wrong, in the light of our own hindsight or others insight ... and most of us (at least myself) do so rather frequently.

Hello Paul
Funnily enough I don’t have a quiet life, but that’s immaterial, I read and enjoyed Judy’s book and have even defended some of the points she makes, but when she is trying to sell the “hot things glow but not everything that glows is hot” line ,I don’t buy it for one second ,firstly the fire burnt until the 19th of December 2001 when New York governor George Pataki finally announces that the fires have been extinguished under the pile, this blaze represents the longest commercial building fire in American history.

Charlie Vitchers , who was in charge of the clean-up operation states


hoses melted and there was a lot of damage to tires, some of them melted just from being to close. I mean, the bottom of your shoes would melt on some of the steel. Some of that was so hot you could feel the hair on the back of your neck start to burn when you walk by. There were cherry red pieces of steel sticking out of the ground.it was almost like being in a steel manufacturing company, you just couldn’t physically go near that stuff.
Every time a grappler grabbed a piece of steel and shook it out, it would just fan the fire, like a fan in the fireplace all of a sudden there’d be smoke billowing out.
The Army Corps of Engineers eventually supplied us with infrared aerial shots where the heat was.it was like looking at the blob. The fire was moving under the pile. One day it would be hot here, it would be 1,400 degrees, and the next day it would be 2,000 degrees and then five days later it wouldn’t register over 600 degrees.

Bobby Gray crane operator at Ground Zero


depending on which way the wind was blowing, the grapplers would sometimes disappear. The smoke was that bad. The fire department was just constantly spraying water on the pile, hoping it would seep through to where the main heat was. I remember pulling columns up that were cherry red. Especially at night, that was incredible to see. A 30 foot column carried high above the ground would be cherry red. It wasn’t in molten stage, but it was certainly too hot to put on a truck because the truck beds are all wood. We’d have to leave it on the side to cool. Sometimes the fire trucks would come along and hose them down.

These are but just two eye witnesses who were there and report intense heat in the pile; I have many many more at hand, which makes me raise an eyebrow to Judy and Andrews’s denial of heat in the pile.
I also wonder where Judy’s research would have taken her if Andrew Johnson hadn’t introduced her to John Hutchinson as claimed in her earlier interviews.