Ready to share your fears?

[<8>]

Hi guys

I put this thread under the healing thread, because anyone who has overcome a fear. Can testify to the release of the tremendous burden we have sometimes carried around for a lifetime.

If you feel that you like to share your fears here, it will not automatically solve them.
But together we might get insights into how others did, to face their fears.
Consider this thread to be a first step, to open that can of worms together with people who has the experience and are willing to guide through sharing their experience.

I would like to share a brief story how I challenge myself, with a small but to me annoying fear.

I had a problem with making eye contact, the girls were either too beautiful or the guys were to threatening. So one day about 3 years ago I walked out and forced myself to look people in the eyes.

Needless to say I did had good intentions, but when the worst terror had gone and I slovely became conscious that most people turn their eyes away after a sec or two.

After 3 years eye staring investigation, I can with certainty say, 99,9% live in fear.
I have only met a handful of people, who have not turned away. As we have with no words gazed at each other.

Well their was one who might not been one of us, with other words she was not from here if you know what I mean. But that might be for an other thread.:P

I am now proud to announce the I have a straight back as I walk along and I now smile as I look at the people who is passing me by. And from not knowing any one in the new neighborhood I moved to, people are now waving to me from a distance.

And I got the feeling that my loving thoughts as I smile at them, make all the difference in the world.

[etheric underground]

Good on ya <8>.... I used to be very shy...and in my culture it is customary to look down at the ground to respect
people older than you...many used to think I was rude or snobby it took me years to accept that I was equal, even to
elders and I also began looking into peoples eyes ( souls)
My biggest FEAR is being father to a daughter. Many may think this is terrible, but I would be so protective and worried
that I may end up shunning the love of my own offspring through my concern of this often despicable world destroying her.

[betoobig]

I can´t thank you enough this issue... not a trheat...anymore
i am full of fear...
(don´t feel like mking the list)
but even here in avalon we all fear what we migth say... aha!!
got you all in the issue....
Thanks so much 8
PD: where were you at??

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i guess i am not ready yet.... dammm it.. i´ll have a beer or two... we´ll see

[betoobig]

got it
I FEAR MYSELF

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felling naked ...

[Robin]

I would agree with Eowen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgk0ncJ8EPs

Here is the quote:

Aragorn: You have some skill with a blade.
Eowyn: The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them. I fear neither death nor pain.
Aragorn: What do you fear, my lady?
Eowyn: A cage. To stay behind bars until use and old age accept them and all chance of valor has gone beyond recall or desire.
Aragorn: You are a daughter of kings, a shield maiden of Rohan. I do not think that will be your fate.

For me, the only fear that I truly have is the chance that I may not complete my mission here on Earth. That I will fail and the dark forces will have won, putting humanity into total bondage and evermore suffering. That I will not be able to lend my knowledge and experience for humanity's evolution. That my ideas and gift of foresight will vanish with no ears to hear them.

This is the only thing that is keeping me going right now. I have so much to offer humanity, and my ideas can truly change the world for the better. It is all a matter of holding on through this tough time so I can bring my ideas to the forefront of human ingenuity.

I am slipping, and it is so difficult to keep going. But I'm holding on to the notion that I have so much to give to humanity, and I would be a failure if I give up. But I am slipping...

[Shezbeth]

Psych wards; I have always had a lingering fear of being imprisoned or "committed" within a psych ward, force-fed all manner of brain-altering chemicals, and where one's every word - not matter how coherent or sapient - was dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic.

But then I realized that whether there are apparent walls or white-coats running around, the whole world is a psych ward!

[Heartsong]

I fear growing old alone, not being able to take care of myself and not having anyone who cares.

[Natalia]

I have "worked on" and/or been going through the process of healing and rising above fears for years...

Today a current one in me is the fear of disappointing people, especially a man I am attracted to romantically...truth is that some men get disappointed in me when they see something (like a need or honest expression or trait that was not obvious at first, etc)...but, some men like those same things about me (or are ok with them and see past them)...and I know that most people experience that, and I have to keep the faith...the more open you are to more people, the more people like you but the more people don't like you...

As well as working on it myself, it is sometimes so nice to feel "honey, I am not disappointed in you, you are beautiful as you are"...

Sometimes I feel like a "weirdo woman" (good one), on the wrong planet...just being honest with no censorship (right now)...I'm scared of not being good enough...but intuitively I know, that I am good enough to some people...and not others...I know that at times I am sensitive to it because something in me tells me that I am not good enough...which mostly stems from childhood...

It's my choice to "give love a chance"...and to know that I am worthy and deserving...it might seem like I really don't love myself but I think that some people don't understand that accepting yourself as being a highly sensitive person and allowing yourself to be, is love...(though yes I can grow/connect to more self love but it is there...)...

[annacherie]

Fear?? he he....I know thee well. Early onset parkinsons disease has been ample training ground in becoming famaliar with the sympathetic nervous system and using cortisol instead of dopamine to even breathe.

It has been the tremendous love and patience of many healers, loved ones, and community that helped me to learn the grace of joy and reverence.

Recently the fear in me is that I don't have enough time...so my daily efforts sometimes seem futile and what I "do" doesn't matter .

[<8>]

[QUOTE=
My biggest FEAR is being father to a daughter. Many may think this is terrible, but I would be so protective and worried
that I may end up shunning the love of my own offspring through my concern of this often despicable world destroying her.[/QUOTE]

Hi there Etheric...

I like to find the positive and focus on that, but when we are in the middle of things it can sometimes be hard to know whats really the best thing.
One thing I can see, is that you are conscious of the problem and that is huge thing. For most people it's hard to admit that they are themselves causing the problem.

So you should start to be really proud of that and turn that into your strength, next time you find yourself with those thoughts and the emotions. Know that they are only just that,
and know that you can choose either to act on them OR be aware that. If you can stand your ground, you can feel just after a few times how those emotions starts to diminish.

The emotions trigger us that's what the elite use to shape and form their agenda, to be aware gives you a choice it's up to yourself of course. face it or keep suffering.

[<8>]

oops.......::P

[<8>]

got it
I FEAR MYSELF

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felling naked ...


Hi Betoobig..

I just love how you spontaneously come in here and say what's on your mind, with a few jokes you try to convince yourself it's all just fun and games.
And ironically you right of course, keep up the good work my friend

Heeey! About being afraid for yourself, I don't blame ya. I hade to face death in my mind before I was ready to know who I really am.

[<8>]

I would agree with Eowen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgk0ncJ8EPs

Here is the quote:

Aragorn: You have some skill with a blade.
Eowyn: The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them. I fear neither death nor pain.
Aragorn: What do you fear, my lady?
Eowyn: A cage. To stay behind bars until use and old age accept them and all chance of valor has gone beyond recall or desire.
Aragorn: You are a daughter of kings, a shield maiden of Rohan. I do not think that will be your fate.

For me, the only fear that I truly have is the chance that I may not complete my mission here on Earth. That I will fail and the dark forces will have won, putting humanity into total bondage and evermore suffering. That I will not be able to lend my knowledge and experience for humanity's evolution. That my ideas and gift of foresight will vanish with no ears to hear them.

This is the only thing that is keeping me going right now. I have so much to offer humanity, and my ideas can truly change the world for the better. It is all a matter of holding on through this tough time so I can bring my ideas to the forefront of human ingenuity.

I am slipping, and it is so difficult to keep going. But I'm holding on to the notion that I have so much to give to humanity, and I would be a failure if I give up. But I am slipping...



Hi Samwise...

I would like to say it more like Aragorn said, Samwise my dear friend you are soo brave. I do not think that will be your fate.

[<8>]

Psych wards; I have always had a lingering fear of being imprisoned or "committed" within a psych ward, force-fed all manner of brain-altering chemicals, and where one's every word - not matter how coherent or sapient - was dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic.

But then I realized that whether there are apparent walls or white-coats running around, the whole world is a psych ward!


Hi Beth..

Imagine your worst fears seem to be a common theme in this world, and I don't blame ya for notice that this world seem to be upside down.
We are all caught in our own drama and I like to think that if I was born as anyone else, I would think and act just like they are doing.

My point is, we are all caught in our own thoughts and we emotionally act on our fears that shape this reality.
A point of view can change with one thought, now aren't that an empowering thought.:)

[Cara]

For this life: I fear becoming a mother. I doubt that I can be responsible for a child in the all-encompassing way that I think it needs to be to nurture a child in this hair-raising world we are in. Also, I fear the loss of myself in the all-consuming role of a mother.

For longer: I fear choosing and following my own purpose. I have lived so long and through so many lives in service of the purposes of others. I just know I have to have a purpose that is my own but I am terrified of choosing the wrong thing.

[<8>]

I fear growing old alone, not being able to take care of myself and not having anyone who cares.



Hi Heart..

Thoughts of the future so real even though most of the time they never come to pass, nevertheless the lingering fear won't let go.
Your mind keep your eyes fixed at the horizon to what might come, trapped by your own mind you are unable to really relax.

I became aware of my own thoughts about 4 years ago, and more people seem to wake up to just this. That your thoughts and emotions are just that and nothing more.
If you are ready to look within yourself and face that future tormenting thought, than you can soon drop that annoying thought.

[<8>]

I have "worked on" and/or been going through the process of healing and rising above fears for years...

Today a current one in me is the fear of disappointing people, especially a man I am attracted to romantically...truth is that some men get disappointed in me when they see something (like a need or honest expression or trait that was not obvious at first, etc)...but, some men like those same things about me (or are ok with them and see past them)...and I know that most people experience that, and I have to keep the faith...the more open you are to more people, the more people like you but the more people don't like you...

As well as working on it myself, it is sometimes so nice to feel Sometimes I feel like a "weirdo woman" (good one), on the wrong planet...just being honest with no censorship (right now)...I'm scared of not being good enough...but intuitively I know, that I am good enough to some people...and not others...I know that at times I am sensitive to it because something in me tells me that I am not good enough...which mostly stems from childhood..."honey, I am not disappointed in you, you are beautiful as you are"...



It's my choice to "give love a chance"...and to know that I am worthy and deserving...it might seem like I really don't love myself but I think that some people don't understand that accepting yourself as being a highly sensitive person and allowing yourself to be, is love...(though yes I can grow/connect to more self love but it is there...)...


Hi Ameth..

The only thing we really can change is ourselves, are a phrase we through around now and then. I like to say, the only thing you can change is "the" thoughts. I would hope it would make a lot of sense to know who you are first.
To me you seem aware of yourself and how your thoughts and feelings affect not only yourself, but also others around you.

It's nothing wrong to be sensitive, it's a strength that making you more aware of the important things. But not only around yourself, you are on a emotional rollercoaster within.
Because your emotions letting you know what's right and wrong in a sense, but like you said some things might be from your childhood.
And don't really make any sense now, negative thoughts will never leave you. They will follow you right through the thing we call death, and there you will continue in another setting but with the same fears.

I would like you make you alert to a trap most sensitive people seem to fall into, (including myself) and what I mean is.
It's so easy to fall into the blame game as I call it, as the strong emotions affect us and we easily start feeling sorry for ourselves.
And we start to worry what other people may think and what they might do, if and when they discover this and that about me.

The mind through endless scenarios at us, the real question is, if you are aware of your fears are you ready to face them?



P.s.. "honey, I am not disappointed in you, you are beautiful as you are"

[<8>]

Fear?? he he....I know thee well. Early onset parkinsons disease has been ample training ground in becoming famaliar with the sympathetic nervous system and using cortisol instead of dopamine to even breathe.

It has been the tremendous love and patience of many healers, loved ones, and community that helped me to learn the grace of joy and reverence.

Recently the fear in me is that I don't have enough time...so my daily efforts sometimes seem futile and what I "do" doesn't matter .


Hi Anna..

On the other side of the coin we might find, as you said the grace of things most people aren't aware of, these are blessings behind the suffering we endure.
I got a tingeling feeling in my hands that my last words on forums like this will make the difference, not because my spidey senses are tingling.
It's because the diabetic are taking a toll on this body, that makes every letter precious to me. And I will not accept any thoughts to distract me.

This is my choice and I am letting you know, you have one to. The irony is that your thought about not having enough time.
Is the very thought who is stealing your last time away, but we can't blame it because we are the only one who can choose.
If we are ready to face it that is...

[annacherie]

Hi Anna..

On the other side of the coin we might find, as you said the grace of things most people aren't aware of, these are blessings behind the suffering we endure.
I got a tingeling feeling in my hands that my last words on forums like this will make the difference, not because my spidey senses are tingling.
It's because the diabetic are taking a toll on this body, that makes every letter precious to me. And I will not accept any thoughts to distract me.

This is my choice and I am letting you know, you have one to. The irony is that your thought about not having enough time.
Is the very thought who is stealing your last time away, but we can't blame it because we are the only one who can choose.
If we are ready to face it that is...[/QUOTE]

Hello <8>,
I have fostered the thought about time all of my life subconsciously or so it seems as the concept of it is my best attempt to translate my feelings and awareness to language. Somehow that thought appears born many preceding generations before mine....thus the layers become confusing.
I too search for paradox in my daily attempts to understand and appreciate this amazing life in a world potent with mystery and even tho my body ages my heart ever continues to make its presence known thankfully for the only real death I can conceive of is the loss of being unable to feel... it is an exquisite thing to embody sensuality in all its glory and I can only imagine you have traversed far and wide that landscape through your heart and in your vision. Now if only my tremors become as tingles and shimmers and your hands and feet awaken from this dream. :)

[<8>]

For this life: I fear becoming a mother. I doubt that I can be responsible for a child in the all-encompassing way that I think it needs to be to nurture a child in this hair-raising world we are in. Also, I fear the loss of myself in the all-consuming role of a mother.

For longer: I fear choosing and following my own purpose. I have lived so long and through so many lives in service of the purposes of others. I just know I have to have a purpose that is my own but I am terrified of choosing the wrong thing.


Hi Searcher...

It's alright at this point in this life to make a conscious decision to not raise a child in this environment.
The thought that are beating you down are just a thought, nothing more.

I think you should empower yourself with the thought of how aware you are and be proud, how you consciously made a informed decision.
I would just like to note, it's easy to start pointing how others make a crazy decision rasing their child in this this environment.
I would say, mind your thoughts. And by respecting yourself it will become easy to respect other people's choices.
It's easy to become the one who is shooting to others how they should live their lives.

Choosing your purpose, I just love that trap. It made me run in in circles for a long time.
The easy answer is, you are the purpose, how can you choose what you already have chosen.
All thoughts making you questing yourself and we start to assume a lot of things. Not realising it's those thoughts making you unhappy.

Imagine yourself strip away all negative thoughts, would you have any problem?, would you chase your purpose through life times. no of course not.
Pay attention to your thoughts but don't necessarily follow them all, some can easily fool you.

[*penumbra]

My fear is too many people dwelling on negative energies and causing self-fulfilling prophecies...

[<8>]

.

Hello <8>,
I have fostered the thought about time all of my life subconsciously or so it seems as the concept of it is my best attempt to translate my feelings and awareness to language. Somehow that thought appears born many preceding generations before mine....thus the layers become confusing.
I too search for paradox in my daily attempts to understand and appreciate this amazing life in a world potent with mystery and even tho my body ages my heart ever continues to make its presence known thankfully for the only real death I can conceive of is the loss of being unable to feel... it is an exquisite thing to embody sensuality in all its glory and I can only imagine you have traversed far and wide that landscape through your heart and in your vision. Now if only my tremors become as tingles and shimmers and your hands and feet awaken from this dream. :)[/QUOTE]


Dear friend...

Time is a notion that keeps us in a loop that never ends and that is the very thing that making this experience possible.
Unconsciously and sometimes consciously thoughts bleeds through the thing we call dreaming, this is a window into other lives you simuntainsly experiencing.
One have to understand that the universe is timeless, consider that you are moving forward frame by frame, just speed it up and you get your timeline.

What most people don't consider is the thing we call space it's the very thing that make it appear like things are moving, we are the universe we are space, that makes us formless. And like a mist we hang around forever, experiencing ourselves as form.

Sensuality and endless pleasure endless love, we would like to believe. They are all important and the strong emotions shape our experience.
It's alright to lose yourself and experience it all, I am however at a point where I experiencing love consciously and I have to get back on this subject.

You as I will awake when we shed this bodies, but most people will only wake up to a similar scenario we are in now.
And like you wake up in the morning, this dream will quickly fade away.
I like to say, don't hurry my friends make the most of it here and now..

[<8>]

My fear is too many people dwelling on negative energies and causing self-fulfilling prophecies...


Hi Penum...


Would you agree that those negative energies stems from negative thoughts? How would you interpret that thought you fear, positiv or negative?
My friend you are helping them fulfilling the prophecy, because two negative thoughts cannot become a positive one.

No worries, you are just a thought away from stop feeding that negative energy.::)

[Natalia]

Hi <8>, thank you for your reply, and sweet message at the end, don't feel up to discussing it at the mo but just to say that, yes, it's important that we face and rise above our fears....they don't have to rule us and we also can connect to the love inside of us, too - cause both exist in everyone, and some are more open about it than others (this is also a reply to the self fulfilling prophecy comment by penumbra)

I respect everyone for being brave enough to share their fears here, and it can be quite adorable sometimes as well (to me and some others), none of us are free from personal fears totally always...we can share our fears and still be loved and believed in and even heal from them somewhat...(it's not always best to share fears, there are some that I will not share...and not with certain people)...

[<8>]

(it's not always best to share fears, there are some that I will not share...and not with certain people)...

Ameth...

Thanks for sharing this, I actually had just that thought as I created this thread.
And I have to agree people should NOT share thoughts and feelings if they are not ready to share their fears.
And no one have the right to force you into sharing.

I have to admit that I consciously choose not to wright this more or less warning message, because consciously or unconsciously we all make that decision.
As we choose to write anything here.

Anyways it's nothing wrong to be clear, thx guys.:)

[Natalia]

(it's not always best to share fears, there are some that I will not share...and not with certain people)...

Ameth...

Thanks for sharing this, I actually had just that thought as I created this thread.
And I have to agree people should NOT share thoughts and feelings if they are not ready to share their fears.
And no one have the right to force you into sharing.

I have to admit that I consciously choose not to wright this more or less warning message, because consciously or unconsciously we all make that decision.
As we choose to write anything here.

Anyways it's nothing wrong to be clear, thx guys.:)

I can understand why you chose to not post that in your original post - which was encouraging...from me it wasn't a warning (though I can see that it can seem that way), it was more to do with letting those who judge others for sharing fears that I know that it's not always wise to do...ahhhhh...now I am feeling like I am coming across all feary! lol

Sometimes I have moments like this

http://cdn.attackofthecute.com/September-09-2012-11-43-57-d2fSe.jpeg

Feel better now after I laughed about it! :)

[<8>]

Feel better now after I laughed about it! :)

As you should Amethyst.:)

It's easy to become a bit too serious when you spend most of a day writing the same thing, dang now I owe you twice.

Please stop..:P

[Unicorn]

I had a problem with making eye contact.

The eyes, those inquisitors. I don't have any problems to make eye contact with others. But what I really avoid is looking at myself. Looking at my own eyes. They hold all my fears. Makes me feel so sad. I always wear dark sunglasses. Even indoors or in dark places. Not to avoid looking at others. Not to hide something from others. Just to deny my own eyes.

[apokalypse]

one of most fear of all fear is Public Speaking/doing Speech or what people call it stage fright...during school days i make up reasons not to delivering presentation.

might not a fear but one of the problem i have is making eye contact...

I'm that type of person being a loner, some people i just able talked straight of the bat when we first meet but some i just really can't. I really tried bring up topic but went blank.

[<8>]

I don't have any problems to make eye contact with others. But what I really avoid is looking at myself. Looking at my own eyes. They hold all my fears.


Hi Unicorn..


It's a rare thing when people consciously facing themselves, there is nowhere to hide, and that thought can be one of the most terrifying thoughts one are about to face.
Yet, it's only a thought, is it not? In a situation like this, you have literally corned your own mind, and there is only two things that can happen.
Either you take a deep breath and push through your fears OR you believe that thought and counting live with that fear.

Remember there isn't a right or wrong here, the question is if you are ready to break free from the created belief.
I would suggest you should start asking yourself, where does thoughts come from and are they really your thoughts?
It's a non threatening situation, the only thing you have to do is like the NSA, you eavesdropping on what's really going on upstairs.

Your mind will most likely feed you with several excuses how busy you are etcetera, being aware of that and challenge your mind is the key.
Lets say you gather the curaga and take the first step and start challenging your mind, this is "THE" shift in consciousness, that many people are talking about.

Remember most thoughts aren't really your thoughts, the mind gather everything you experience, even unconsciously.
You aren't consciously trying to scare yourself, right? Of course not, no one wants to live in fear.

Happy eavesdropping..:)

[<8>]

one of most fear of all fear is Public Speaking/ i make up reasons not to delivering presentation.

might not a fear but one of the problem i have is making eye contact...

I'm that type of person being a loner, i just really can't. I really tried bring up topic but went blank.



Hi Apokalpse......

When we boil every thought down, there is only one of two things a thought can represent. And that is Love OR fear, when your mind are telling you that it might not be fear.
It's just a slight problem, it's obviously a fear based thought, right? So by criticaly questioning your own thoughts, will ultimately simplify your life.

Truth and love is simple, and they feel right. You can't prove that you are crazy in love, but you would be ready to bet your life on it, and people around you are able to feel it.
Now ain't that amazing. Your stage fright feels equally real, you can physically feel it in your body, that's how powerful our emotions are.

Let's boil down the notion of the thought your mind are giving you, your mind are telling "you're a loner". But are you really? or might there be fear based thoughts throughout your life who has made you believe this thought?. it's obviously up to you if you are ready to examine this.

[doetem]

I believe I fear not being what I imagined myself to be while I'm here on Earth. What if I don't use my time wisely in order to find out what I need to find out in this life? I fear supporting a purpose that was not meant for me

[<8>]

I believe I fear not being what I imagined myself to be while I'm here on Earth. What if I don't use my time wisely in order to find out what I need to find out in this life? I fear supporting a purpose that was not meant for me



Hi Doetem and thanks for sharing..

First of all, that is alot of fears to carrying around, however it's a more common thing to do for most people.
The good thing is you feel you want to do the right thing and it's so important for you can tell your minds fears are clouding your judgment, so you doubt your own choices.

If you could put all those fears in a box, would you know what the right thing to do is? First of all, you would be at peace going with the flow.
But you would not necessarily know what to do until a moment of opportunity presented itself, and then you would not question yourself if the thing felt right.

The same applies now, go with the things that feels right, and the most important thing, be yourself that's why we all are here.
I understand that we make up different senarios that might happened, and that is just fine. But sometimes we are needed just there we are.
To be the light of truth, to just listen to the old lady with compassion to smile and say hi to all around you.

P.s.. it can't be wrong if it feels right..:)

[AriG]

I don't fear being dead. I fear the act of dying*. Will it be painful? What will I encounter between "here and there"? What does one experience when the lungs no longer expand to take in the life giving air? Does one feel one's heart stop? Then what? Is it like an astral projection? An OBE? Do we control our destination or does something else? Without sounding like a Carlos Castenada yarn, the thought of the act of dying darkens my psyche and shakes me to the core. Almost makes one want to embrace transhumanism. Go ahead... upload me to the toaster. At least I will understand my place in this quadrant.

* Irrational fear completely unsupported by experience and inner knowing, let alone the countless reports of others who have briefly visited the other side having left their physical bodies altogether. Fears are not rational....

[<8>]

I don't fear being dead. I fear the act of dying*. Will it be painful? What will I encounter between "here and there"? What does one experience when the lungs no longer expand to take in the life giving air? Does one feel one's heart stop? Then what? Is it like an astral projection? An OBE? Do we control our destination or does something else? Without sounding like a Carlos Castenada yarn, the thought of the act of dying darkens my psyche and shakes me to the core. Almost makes one want to embrace transhumanism. Go ahead... upload me to the toaster. At least I will understand my place in this quadrant.

* Irrational fear completely unsupported by experience and inner knowing, let alone the countless reports of others who have briefly visited the other side having left their physical bodies altogether. Fears are not rational....


Hi AriG and thanks for sharing...


No words I say here will automatically take away those fears, I would like to share how I approach a similar situation.
There were a nagging feeling that refused to let go, no matter how much I understood that we survive the thing we call death.
That is because I had no personal experience and that is the only way to get the knowing, instead of understanding and believing.

I started on a journey there I absorbed most of the NDE,OBE videos that is out on the web, I even went and did a regression.
But nothing seem to fill that void of fear inside and at this point I had even picked up more fears, because there are a lot of people out there
claiming they have gone to hell and back. And obe people who had research for 30 years or more, reported hellish environments on their travels.
So I understood this I cant ignore, it just take one as they say.

I finally decided to consciously have an OBEl, that would take care most of my fears. If I only could have that one experience.
Needless to say I failed because I had too much fear, I however know there was another way to become conscious within a dream.
I picked one of many ways to wake yourself up that felt right to me and I put all my effort into recalling my dreams as I woke up.

I decided not to assume and jump to conclusions, I just gathered information with the feeling it would all make sense at some point.
After a few month I recalled 5-10 dreams each day, and one day I finally woke up inside a dream, just for a few sec, but so profound there were no doubt.
After this experience my dreams slowly started to shift into another level, I started to experience death, I died several times each night.
I woke up each time and I had to go outside to calm myself, after a few month I was exhausted I could barely funktion during day time.

I finally gave up and faced my own death within a dream, I was ready to experience it all. I was sitting in a helicopter that was about to go down.
I was totally calm as I looked how my friends were screaming in panic, I remember looking down because I wanted to see when we hit the water below us.
I didn't want to miss a thing, a wonderful feeling.

I still continue a while after this and I had a few more awakenings within a few dreams, but the important thing was.
I could actually feel how the fears has left me, and I now know we all leave our bodies each night we go to sleep.
The illusions is so real we can't help to believe in it.

[Sunny-side-up]

I had a problem with making eye contact.

The eyes, those inquisitors. I don't have any problems to make eye contact with others. But what I really avoid is looking at myself. Looking at my own eyes. They hold all my fears. Makes me feel so sad. I always wear dark sunglasses. Even indoors or in dark places. Not to avoid looking at others. Not to hide something from others. Just to deny my own eyes.

I used to where sunglasses a lot, thinking it was saving my eyes from harm of the sun. I used to where sunglasses as a shade/defense from others Doh

But now I Sun-Gaze a lot and vertically never where Sunglasses!

So while your hiding from your eyes you are also deigning yourself the beauty of the sun and it's health given rays!

So don't stop yourself seeing all the possible beauty that is around and inside yourself, look at your eyes with Love and you will see Love looking back at you my friend!

One fear that I overcome was intense-social-shyness, I was so ill from it, if I went outside my legs and muscles would tench-up/Lock up so that I would end up unable to move!
I used to stay indoors, only going out when, for some reason I just had enough confidence to do so, which wasn't often :(

I overcome that illness by making/dyeing my own cloths, I walked around looking like a hippy/Native-American-Indian mix but! because I was showing my true inner self to the world I had confidence!

I used to get laughed at but! I would think 'Great' I've given someone a laugh ;)
I also got a lot of 'Peace Signs' from awake people, so great again!
I was happy, made other people happy so Great ;)

I was socially very shy because I wasn't safe/happy/me in the Main-Stream given image/attire!
when I stepped out as my self I didn't really care what other people thought, I was cool :)

[Natalia]

Isn't it lovely when the opposite of your fears happen? :)

[AriG]

I don't fear being dead. I fear the act of dying*. Will it be painful? What will I encounter between "here and there"? What does one experience when the lungs no longer expand to take in the life giving air? Does one feel one's heart stop? Then what? Is it like an astral projection? An OBE? Do we control our destination or does something else? Without sounding like a Carlos Castenada yarn, the thought of the act of dying darkens my psyche and shakes me to the core. Almost makes one want to embrace transhumanism. Go ahead... upload me to the toaster. At least I will understand my place in this quadrant.

* Irrational fear completely unsupported by experience and inner knowing, let alone the countless reports of others who have briefly visited the other side having left their physical bodies altogether. Fears are not rational....


Hi AriG and thanks for sharing...


No words I say here will automatically take away those fears, I would like to share how I approach a similar situation.
There were a nagging feeling that refused to let go, no matter how much I understood that we survive the thing we call death.
That is because I had no personal experience and that is the only way to get the knowing, instead of understanding and believing.

I started on a journey there I absorbed most of the NDE,OBE videos that is out on the web, I even went and did a regression.
But nothing seem to fill that void of fear inside and at this point I had even picked up more fears, because there are a lot of people out there
claiming they have gone to hell and back. And obe people who had research for 30 years or more, reported hellish environments on their travels.
So I understood this I cant ignore, it just take one as they say.

I finally decided to consciously have an OBEl, that would take care most of my fears. If I only could have that one experience.
Needless to say I failed because I had too much fear, I however know there was another way to become conscious within a dream.
I picked one of many ways to wake yourself up that felt right to me and I put all my effort into recalling my dreams as I woke up.

I decided not to assume and jump to conclusions, I just gathered information with the feeling it would all make sense at some point.
After a few month I recalled 5-10 dreams each day, and one day I finally woke up inside a dream, just for a few sec, but so profound there were no doubt.
After this experience my dreams slowly started to shift into another level, I started to experience death, I died several times each night.
I woke up each time and I had to go outside to calm myself, after a few month I was exhausted I could barely funktion during day time.

I finally gave up and faced my own death within a dream, I was ready to experience it all. I was sitting in a helicopter that was about to go down.
I was totally calm as I looked how my friends were screaming in panic, I remember looking down because I wanted to see when we hit the water below us.
I didn't want to miss a thing, a wonderful feeling.

I still continue a while after this and I had a few more awakenings within a few dreams, but the important thing was.
I could actually feel how the fears has left me, and I now know we all leave our bodies each night we go to sleep.
The illusions is so real we can't help to believe in it.

Thanks 8!

I have been having OBEs for years. Astral projection and remote viewing and lucid dreaming. Still with one "leg" in this realm though. And of course, these experiences are a conscious choice. Dying is not always a conscious choice... or is it. As I said... completely irrational fear. I was fine before I got here and I will be fine when I leave here. Just don't want to jump on the roller coaster of dying. Hope its like flipping a switch or as David Icke states, "putting down the telescope".

[chocolate]

When I see everyone's fears here I feel a bit embarrassed that my fears are mostly material. What I mean is that I fear(-ed) things that were not so high up there in the philosophical/spiritual spectrum.

* I feared driving a car. It was like I was submerged in a sea of monsters who wanted to smash into me, or that I would make a mistake and hit someone. After an year of elevated heart rate during driving I think i am starting to feel a bit better while I drive.

* I also feared I wasn't good enough at my job. I work in a very stressful and dynamic environment, where everyone seems to think they are the greatest artists, so I also thought I am inferior in some way. This fear I think I got because I was raised by a perfectionist father who always doubted my abilities. There is a background story to his fear of me being an inferior person, but that is for another time and space.

* I feared living with someone who would turn out to be dishonest with me. Well, that almost happened to me (we only did not live together in one house, just shared for a while a 'relationship', if it could be called like that), and I think what happened, as you imagine the worst I feared happened, it cured me from my fear. It actually showed me that I can well exist on my own and be 'happy'. I guess one may say I was afraid of being alone, or of what people would thinking if I was still a single person in my late 20s going to 30s.

* When I was a kid I feared my parents would divorce. I think in retrospect that could have been the easier solution to all (their) problems, and the problems of the two kids they have, but anyway. It didn't happen, and my mother didn't give me in a school for children that are left without a family. It was one thing she always used to scare me with if I wouldn't act on her commands.
Probably because of this dysfunctional family life we had with my sister I fear also of being married, and having children. I just don't know what people expect 'normal' to look like when you are married, or when you live with someone. I probably have been on my own for a very long time.

* And I was afraid to start painting again, because I did not know what I wanted to say with those paintings, thus they would have been a waste of time, material and a source of another disappointment.

* I feared I will not have a job when my family needed money. It was during the time of the 'revolution' in eastern europe, and it was really very hard on people.

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I think I'd better stop here :).

Thank you for the thread, <8>.

[Wind]

Fears are quite dominating, I know that. It's kind of ironic that I have never had a fear of death (not that I would like to die painfully - like I have), but perhaps the most challenging one for me has been fear of not being good enough and it's related to intimacy with others. I'm kind of shy when it comes to sharing deep emotions, I can use my witty humour to hide my real self which is a really sensitive one. According to society you should be tough and assertive. Or at least that's what seems to be expected from my gender...

Due to experiences from past, I learned that revealing your real self can cause tremendous emotional pain, but I have learned to accept myself more and more and the fear has thankfully subsided, but not fully. Yet I don't like my active mind, because it likes to bring up the false illusions about myself. When I learn to know and trust someone, I am able to relax more and let my real self shine through more without fear of judgement... This was quite a leap for me, but I still have much to learn.

[Natalia]

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[whenyournex2me]

I fear the loss of love... and that which means most to me, the loss from sharing something special with someone special. It has made relationships difficult in the past, but I am glad they are past. Now... Im scared ****less of messing up, pushing too much, being "to intense" etc... She says she is going no where, I believe her, I want to believe her too. Im afraid my mind is infected... lol... help?