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angelfire
4th August 2014, 22:40
This makes so much sense to me - a view of mental illness as an imbalance in a person's spirit which is often caused by intruders from other dimensions.........

http://http://earthweareone.com/what-a-shaman-sees-in-a-mental-hospital/


What a Shaman Sees in A Mental Hospital
June 12, 2014 / 430301 views

http://http://earthweareone.com/what-a-shaman-sees-in-a-mental-hospital/


The Shamanic View of Mental Illness

In the shamanic view, mental illness signals “the birth of a healer,” explains Malidoma Patrice Somé. Thus, mental disorders are spiritual emergencies, spiritual crises, and need to be regarded as such to aid the healer in being born.

What those in the West view as mental illness, the Dagara people regard as “good news from the other world.” The person going through the crisis has been chosen as a medium for a message to the community that needs to be communicated from the spirit realm. “Mental disorder, behavioral disorder of all kinds, signal the fact that two obviously incompatible energies have merged into the same field,” says Dr. Somé. These disturbances result when the person does not get assistance in dealing with the presence of the energy from the spirit realm.

One of the things Dr. Somé encountered when he first came to the United States in 1980 for graduate study was how this country deals with mental illness. When a fellow student was sent to a mental institute due to “nervous depression,” Dr. Somé went to visit him.

“I was so shocked. That was the first time I was brought face to face with what is done here to people exhibiting the same symptoms I’ve seen in my village.” What struck Dr. Somé was that the attention given to such symptoms was based on pathology, on the idea that the condition is something that needs to stop. This was in complete opposition to the way his culture views such a situation. As he looked around the stark ward at the patients, some in straitjackets, some zoned out on medications, others screaming, he observed to himself, “So this is how the healers who are attempting to be born are treated in this culture. What a loss! What a loss that a person who is finally being aligned with a power from the other world is just being wasted.”

Another way to say this, which may make more sense to the Western mind, is that we in the West are not trained in how to deal or even taught to acknowledge the existence of psychic phenomena, the spiritual world. In fact, psychic abilities are denigrated. When energies from the spiritual world emerge in a Western psyche, that individual is completely unequipped to integrate them or even recognize what is happening. The result can be terrifying. Without the proper context for and assistance in dealing with the breakthrough from another level of reality, for all practical purposes, the person is insane. Heavy dosing with anti-psychotic drugs compounds the problem and prevents the integration that could lead to soul development and growth in the individual who has received these energies.

On the mental ward, Dr Somé saw a lot of “beings” hanging around the patients, “entities” that are invisible to most people but that shamans and psychics are able to see. “They were causing the crisis in these people,” he says. It appeared to him that these beings were trying to get the medications and their effects out of the bodies of the people the beings were trying to merge with, and were increasing the patients’ pain in the process. “The beings were acting almost like some kind of excavator in the energy field of people. They were really fierce about that. The people they were doing that to were just screaming and yelling,” he said. He couldn’t stay in that environment and had to leave.

In the Dagara tradition, the community helps the person reconcile the energies of both worlds–”the world of the spirit that he or she is merged with, and the village and community.” That person is able then to serve as a bridge between the worlds and help the living with information and healing they need. Thus, the spiritual crisis ends with the birth of another healer. “The other world’s relationship with our world is one of sponsorship,” Dr. Somé explains. “More often than not, the knowledge and skills that arise from this kind of merger are a knowledge or a skill that is provided directly from the other world.”

The beings who were increasing the pain of the inmates on the mental hospital ward were actually attempting to merge with the inmates in order to get messages through to this world. The people they had chosen to merge with were getting no assistance in learning how to be a bridge between the worlds and the beings’ attempts to merge were thwarted. The result was the sustaining of the initial disorder of energy and the aborting of the birth of a healer.

“The Western culture has consistently ignored the birth of the healer,” states Dr. Somé. “Consequently, there will be a tendency from the other world to keep trying as many people as possible in an attempt to get somebody’s attention. They have to try harder.” The spirits are drawn to people whose senses have not been anesthetized. “The sensitivity is pretty much read as an invitation to come in,” he notes.

Those who develop so-called mental disorders are those who are sensitive, which is viewed in Western culture as oversensitivity. Indigenous cultures don’t see it that way and, as a result, sensitive people don’t experience themselves as overly sensitive. In the West, “it is the overload of the culture they’re in that is just wrecking them,” observes Dr. Somé. The frenetic pace, the bombardment of the senses, and the violent energy that characterize Western culture can overwhelm sensitive people.

Schizophrenia and Foreign Energy

With schizophrenia, there is a special “receptivity to a flow of images and information, which cannot be controlled,” stated Dr. Somé. “When this kind of rush occurs at a time that is not personally chosen, and particularly when it comes with images that are scary and contradictory, the person goes into a frenzy.”

What is required in this situation is first to separate the person’s energy from the extraneous foreign energies, by using shamanic practice (what is known as a “sweep”) to clear the latter out of the individual’s aura. With the clearing of their energy field, the person no longer picks up a flood of information and so no longer has a reason to be scared and disturbed, explains Dr. Somé.

Then it is possible to help the person align with the energy of the spirit being attempting to come through from the other world and give birth to the healer. The blockage of that emergence is what creates problems. “The energy of the healer is a high-voltage energy,” he observes. “When it is blocked, it just burns up the person. It’s like a short-circuit. Fuses are blowing. This is why it can be really scary, and I understand why this culture prefers to confine these people. Here they are yelling and screaming, and they’re put into a straitjacket. That’s a sad image.” Again, the shamanic approach is to work on aligning the energies so there is no blockage, “fuses” aren’t blowing, and the person can become the healer they are meant to be.

It needs to be noted at this point, however, that not all of the spirit beings that enter a person’s energetic field are there for the purposes of promoting healing. There are negative energies as well, which are undesirable presences in the aura. In those cases, the shamanic approach is to remove them from the aura, rather than work to align the discordant energies

Alex: Crazy in the USA, Healer in Africa

To test his belief that the shamanic view of mental illness holds true in the Western world as well as in indigenous cultures, Dr. Somé took a mental patient back to Africa with him, to his village. “I was prompted by my own curiosity to find out whether there’s truth in the universality that mental illness could be connected with an alignment with a being from another world,” says Dr. Somé.

Alex was an 18-year-old American who had suffered a psychotic break when he was 14. He had hallucinations, was suicidal, and went through cycles of dangerously severe depression. He was in a mental hospital and had been given a lot of drugs, but nothing was helping. “The parents had done everything–unsuccessfully,” says Dr. Somé. “They didn’t know what else to do.”

With their permission, Dr. Somé took their son to Africa. “After eight months there, Alex had become quite normal, Dr. Somé reports. He was even able to participate with healers in the business of healing; sitting with them all day long and helping them, assisting them in what they were doing with their clients . . . . He spent about four years in my village.” Alex stayed by choice, not because he needed more healing. He felt, “much safer in the village than in America.”

To bring his energy and that of the being from the spiritual realm into alignment, Alex went through a shamanic ritual designed for that purpose, although it was slightly different from the one used with the Dagara people. “He wasn’t born in the village, so something else applied. But the result was similar, even though the ritual was not literally the same,” explains Dr. Somé. The fact that aligning the energy worked to heal Alex demonstrated to Dr. Somé that the connection between other beings and mental illness is indeed universal.

After the ritual, Alex began to share the messages that the spirit being had for this world. Unfortunately, the people he was talking to didn’t speak English (Dr. Somé was away at that point). The whole experience led, however, to Alex’s going to college to study psychology. He returned to the United States after four years because “he discovered that all the things that he needed to do had been done, and he could then move on with his life.”

The last that Dr. Somé heard was that Alex was in graduate school in psychology at Harvard. No one had thought he would ever be able to complete undergraduate studies, much less get an advanced degree.

Dr. Somé sums up what Alex’s mental illness was all about: “He was reaching out. It was an emergency call. His job and his purpose was to be a healer. He said no one was paying attention to that.”

After seeing how well the shamanic approach worked for Alex, Dr. Somé concluded that spirit beings are just as much an issue in the West as in his community in Africa. “Yet the question still remains, the answer to this problem must be found here, instead of having to go all the way overseas to seek the answer. There has to be a way in which a little bit of attention beyond the pathology of this whole experience leads to the possibility of coming up with the proper ritual to help people.

Longing for Spiritual Connection

A common thread that Dr. Somé has noticed in “mental” disorders in the West is “a very ancient ancestral energy that has been placed in stasis, that finally is coming out in the person.” His job then is to trace it back, to go back in time to discover what that spirit is. In most cases, the spirit is connected to nature, especially with mountains or big rivers, he says.

In the case of mountains, as an example to explain the phenomenon, “it’s a spirit of the mountain that is walking side by side with the person and, as a result, creating a time-space distortion that is affecting the person caught in it.” What is needed is a merger or alignment of the two energies, “so the person and the mountain spirit become one.” Again, the shaman conducts a specific ritual to bring about this alignment.

Dr. Somé believes that he encounters this situation so often in the United States because “most of the fabric of this country is made up of the energy of the machine, and the result of that is the disconnection and the severing of the past. You can run from the past, but you can’t hide from it.” The ancestral spirit of the natural world comes visiting. “It’s not so much what the spirit wants as it is what the person wants,” he says. “The spirit sees in us a call for something grand, something that will make life meaningful, and so the spirit is responding to that.”

That call, which we don’t even know we are making, reflects “a strong longing for a profound connection, a connection that transcends materialism and possession of things and moves into a tangible cosmic dimension. Most of this longing is unconscious, but for spirits, conscious or unconscious doesn’t make any difference.” They respond to either.

As part of the ritual to merge the mountain and human energy, those who are receiving the “mountain energy” are sent to a mountain area of their choice, where they pick up a stone that calls to them. They bring that stone back for the rest of the ritual and then keep it as a companion; some even carry it around with them. “The presence of the stone does a lot in tuning the perceptive ability of the person,” notes Dr. Somé. “They receive all kinds of information that they can make use of, so it’s like they get some tangible guidance from the other world as to how to live their life.”

When it is the “river energy,” those being called go to the river and, after speaking to the river spirit, find a water stone to bring back for the same kind of ritual as with the mountain spirit.

“People think something extraordinary must be done in an extraordinary situation like this,” he says. That’s not usually the case. Sometimes it is as simple as carrying a stone.

A Sacred Ritual Approach to Mental Illness

One of the gifts a shaman can bring to the Western world is to help people rediscover ritual, which is so sadly lacking. “The abandonment of ritual can be devastating. From the spiritual view, ritual is inevitable and necessary if one is to live,” Dr. Somé writes in Ritual: Power, Healing, and Community. “To say that ritual is needed in the industrialized world is an understatement. We have seen in my own people that it is probably impossible to live a sane life without it.”

Dr. Somé did not feel that the rituals from his traditional village could simply be transferred to the West, so over his years of shamanic work here, he has designed rituals that meet the very different needs of this culture. Although the rituals change according to the individual or the group involved, he finds that there is a need for certain rituals in general.

One of these involves helping people discover that their distress is coming from the fact that they are “called by beings from the other world to cooperate with them in doing healing work.” Ritual allows them to move out of the distress and accept that calling.

Another ritual need relates to initiation. In indigenous cultures all over the world, young people are initiated into adulthood when they reach a certain age. The lack of such initiation in the West is part of the crisis that people are in here, says Dr. Somé. He urges communities to bring together “the creative juices of people who have had this kind of experience, in an attempt to come up with some kind of an alternative ritual that would at least begin to put a dent in this kind of crisis.”

Another ritual that repeatedly speaks to the needs of those coming to him for help entails making a bonfire, and then putting into the bonfire “items that are symbolic of issues carried inside the individuals . . . It might be the issues of anger and frustration against an ancestor who has left a legacy of murder and enslavement or anything, things that the descendant has to live with,” he explains. “If these are approached as things that are blocking the human imagination, the person’s life purpose, and even the person’s view of life as something that can improve, then it makes sense to begin thinking in terms of how to turn that blockage into a roadway that can lead to something more creative and more fulfilling.”

The example of issues with an ancestors touches on rituals designed by Dr. Somé that address a serious dysfunction in Western society and in the process “trigger enlightenment” in participants. These are ancestral rituals, and the dysfunction they are aimed at is the mass turning-of-the-back on ancestors. Some of the spirits trying to come through, as described earlier, may be “ancestors who want to merge with a descendant in an attempt to heal what they weren’t able to do while in their physical body.”

“Unless the relationship between the living and the dead is in balance, chaos ensues,” he says. “The Dagara believe that, if such an imbalance exists, it is the duty of the living to heal their ancestors. If these ancestors are not healed, their sick energy will haunt the souls and psyches of those who are responsible for helping them.” The rituals focus on healing the relationship with our ancestors, both specific issues of an individual ancestor and the larger cultural issues contained in our past. Dr. Somé has seen extraordinary healing occur at these rituals.

Taking a sacred ritual approach to mental illness rather than regarding the person as a pathological case gives the person affected–and indeed the community at large–the opportunity to begin looking at it from that vantage point too, which leads to “a whole plethora of opportunities and ritual initiative that can be very, very beneficial to everyone present,” states. Dr. Somé.

The Shamanic View of Mental Illness

by Stephanie Marohn (featuring Malidoma Patrice Somé)

(Excerpted from The Natural Medicine Guide to Schizophrenia,

pages 178-189, or The Natural Medicine Guide to Bi-polar Disorder)

Joe Sustaire
4th August 2014, 23:17
Very interesting stuff here!

linksplatinum
5th August 2014, 04:33
Makes perfect sense!

Carmen
5th August 2014, 07:44
Dr Some is a fascinating person if he is the person I think he is! His book of his own life is a "must read". It's called "Of Water and the Spirit".

Natalia
5th August 2014, 08:17
If only there was (much more of) that understanding in psychiatric homes and society in general...(and if there was, some people would not even be there in the first place), this is something that I have wished for...someone that I know is in a psychiatric home...

Agape
5th August 2014, 13:40
If only there was (much more of) that understanding in psychiatric homes and society in general...(and if there was, some people would not even be there in the first place), this is something that I have wished for...someone that I know is in a psychiatric home...

They have a new diagnostic classification nowadays that includes something called ''psycho-spiritual crisis '' .
It did not exist years back within the realms of clinical psychology/psychiatry but nowadays it does .
There are people in this field ( therapists ) who themselves studied or are oriented to one of more shamanic or spiritual traditions , few I know of are actually very deep to it . Unfortunately , the medical system does not , generally, allow to pursue this very far and most patients do not expect ( or could even complain ) shaman instead of doctor .

The way leads somewhere to crystallisation of principles in my opinion, found in both western psychology and eastern spiritual 'sciences' .

For example, many well known and famed neurologists and psychologists take some inspiration in Tibetan Buddhism .. as well as yogic practises . They try to establish the validity of 'compassionate thought' in our brain .

http://www.investigatinghealthyminds.org/cihmProjects.html

The value of 'meditation practice' and so forth . They've been ignoring importance of mental and ethical criteria in health of civilisation for over too long now .

Here there's a long article , a study focusing on what sort of meditation effects can make on prolonging human life , among else ..

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140701-can-meditation-delay-ageing


The problem with most medical institutions as we know them is that they are seldom well funded to work with people in such a manner that would nurture them back to health . The village shaman in Africa or elsewhere , who survives on minimum of food and other resources , paradoxically ..can sometimes do that .
Our medical system cries for 'we don't have money' . It's ridiculous .


There is also one good trend I know of that should become part of academic curriculums in future called 'ethicotherapy ' .

http://www.etikoterapiecindler.cz/english.php

I can imagine that this is one big wound ( or cause for many wounds ) that need to be addressed and healed by human society from inside .
Especially since we live in such a secular society nowadays where very few people discriminate from right and wrong and navigate others .
The 'system' , its offices and administrators are seldom good example of honesty and humane values . School teachers, doctors, priests, scientists .. those who were once reliable category of people and at least some of them lived by moral principles , and passed them to next generations ..
many of them too nowadays , are spiritually 'young' and confused .

The science seems to tell them that behaviour is but a brain function, that life&death have about similar value and maybe it's the computer machine having more value than human life .

There is so much illness, mental and physical that could be healed , in this world if people were taught and shown how to be gentle , sincere to each other , compassionate , kind , controlled their aggression , recognised their instincts ,
and most of all were honest .

I don't believe that prisons or mental institutions can teach people right that .



:pray:

Tesla_WTC_Solution
5th August 2014, 13:43
I recall in Carl Jung's books some of his patients suffered "visitations" (whether delusional or not) from extra-dimensional beings.
One woman reminded me somewhat of John Constantine until Jung's sessions helped lessen the intrusions into her awareness.

Most of the people in the ER/Psych Ward/Weeklong Lockdown are there for suicidal feelings or other such outbursts, but some do come in complaining of hearing voices for the first time (in adulthood). Others come in with extreme paranoia after having an unwanted psychic attack, believe it or not. I.e. they learn too much or are a few too many months/years ahead of the news and start losing their minds.

The stress of responding to life's varied experiences is quite great -- the 'Overlords' are WAY too happy pointing the finger at the working class and saying we're all mentally ill...

the Shaman has it right and always has

Natalia
5th August 2014, 15:36
I recall in Carl Jung's books some of his patients suffered "visitations" (whether delusional or not) from extra-dimensional beings.
One woman reminded me somewhat of John Constantine until Jung's sessions helped lessen the intrusions into her awareness.

Most of the people in the ER/Psych Ward/Weeklong Lockdown are there for suicidal feelings or other such outbursts, but some do come in complaining of hearing voices for the first time (in adulthood). Others come in with extreme paranoia after having an unwanted psychic attack, believe it or not. I.e. they learn too much or are a few too many months/years ahead of the news and start losing their minds.


Also, some people who have been labelled as having "schizophrenia" have said that they have seen dark beings coming out of the telly, and they are afraid of them and don't want to watch telly...(I have not experienced this but have experienced other "strange" things that could seem "mad"). This can seem really mad and unrealistic to most people (even with me, I doubted it at first...)...but, with highly sensitive people with highly active third eye, they can see things that many others don't...I want to know the truth behind if beings actually come out of tvs...it kinda makes some sense to me because they can travel through walls and hard materials, so why not tvs? There could be something in the tv that attracts them (the frequency/vibration?).

Has anyone heard of this before?

Natalia
5th August 2014, 15:41
btw, I believe that we are all "mad" in some ways...a mix of sane and mad, some more than others, and in different ways...

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Tesla_WTC_Solution
5th August 2014, 19:18
I recall in Carl Jung's books some of his patients suffered "visitations" (whether delusional or not) from extra-dimensional beings.
One woman reminded me somewhat of John Constantine until Jung's sessions helped lessen the intrusions into her awareness.

Most of the people in the ER/Psych Ward/Weeklong Lockdown are there for suicidal feelings or other such outbursts, but some do come in complaining of hearing voices for the first time (in adulthood). Others come in with extreme paranoia after having an unwanted psychic attack, believe it or not. I.e. they learn too much or are a few too many months/years ahead of the news and start losing their minds.


Also, some people who have been labelled as having "schizophrenia" have said that they have seen dark beings coming out of the telly, and they are afraid of them and don't want to watch telly...(I have not experienced this but have experienced other "strange" things that could seem "mad"). This can seem really mad and unrealistic to most people (even with me, I doubted it at first...)...but, with highly sensitive people with highly active third eye, they can see things that many others don't...I want to know the truth behind if beings actually come out of tvs...it kinda makes some sense to me because they can travel through walls and hard materials, so why not tvs? There could be something in the tv that attracts them (the frequency/vibration?).

Has anyone heard of this before?



there are people who think of the same thing thats about to be said on TV and it freaks them out tremendously.
also there are lots of homeless people who seem to be crazy but if you listen they are able to tell you things that no one should normally know.
sometimes about the future.

i've met weirdos at my yard sales who knew things like what you are describing. one said the cell phone towers were making her feel sick.

the TV thing happened to me once, where i was sitting with family and was accidentally predicting the things that were being said on TV.
i.e. a thought would pop into my head and then some commercial or announcer would say the same thing, and my family would look at me kind of crosseyed,
"did that really happen (again)" sort of thing, but they didn't really wake up - it just made them more afraid/superstitious/asleep in the long run.

the film POWDER depicted a young man who was so electrically sensitive that for this reason he is unable to watch tv or be outside in a storm...
or even a cloudy day lol


there are people who get sick or feel weird when earthquakes are happening too, but it's healthier to try to do without that if possible.
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there is so much already in the world to worry about.

p.s. people like Edgar Cayce and many many others are able to psychically diagnose complicated illnesses where other doctors fail.
i.e. some people are born w/ the gift of healing as well as future sight

mahalall
5th August 2014, 20:34
We have a duty to expand the narrow thinking in the westen industry of mental health.
Shamen and meditation systems have a lot to share with these Consultant Psychiatrists who speak and act from a completely different theorectical model. Sadly their professional cage of learning supports an ego that finds in difficult to look beyond. Recent collaborations has highlighted the shocking treatment strategies and poor service communication of employees who work within the mental health act and in child secure mental health facilities in the UK.
One has to challenge every aspect of practise to defend those in thier hands.
Example, confronting them when administering anti-psychotics to children by asking if that product/drug is licensed, then through exploring their response doubt arises that often results in them omitting the drug being prescribed.Community services are expanding and offering more creative systems of energy management.


As for interdimensional entities in these facilities, well what you can measure through observation is the behaviour traits adopted and created by individuals who are struggling to cope with these environments. The shocking and sad aspects is staff assess,diagnose and treat this artificial behavioural constructs.