Navy feels Laser weapons on Helicopters can become a reality

[Bob]

Navy feels that the monsterously large MIRACL style lasers previously used on large transport aircraft and on the ground (for shooting down incoming missiles) can be reduced in size and weight to be able to be carried on an attack helicopter.

Source (http://www.intelligent-aerospace.com/articles/2014/08/ia-laser-weapons.html)


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China Lake Naval weapons station is located in Ridgecrest, California where the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division feels that Industry "is ready" and technology is probably ready to create these new types of light weight laser weapons..

The program is called High Energy Fiber Laser, and will seek to develop and demonstrate prototype integrated high-energy laser weapon subsystems for installation in a helicopter for airborne laser weapon demonstrations.

Navy officials say they plan to issue the High Energy Fiber Laser program solicitation around 18 Aug. 2014, with a contract award planned for December 2014.

The solicitation proposal reminds me of what is done by the various agencies to "test the waters" and take the pulse of industry, seeing how much free information they will provide to show the current level of tech (industry tends to clamor all over each other providing "free data" in hopes to woo contracts in their direction, sorta like how lobbying works when manufacturers try to influence where funds will be deployed..)


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[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Thanks a million dear Bob for reporting on this -- our world is changing SO fast.
Imagine what types of similar weapons exist, things that cannot be disclosed...

the recent downing of aircraft has me scratching my head, wondering what sort of "cold war" we're really engaged in.

eek? :)

[Bob]

Seems with the bioweapons stuff happening out there, the various global conflagrations happening, there is no lessening what-so-ever of military development, either in weapons systems, intel systems, counter-measures (for all of the above). One faction wants ascension, the other faction seems to say, reality is about brute force, make it more effective. Others sympathetically say send love, and flowers make no war, and instead, the intensity increases apparently.. Who to believe?

I suppose if we didn't try to lesson the impact with positive quantum "thoughts", it would be worse.. plenty of discussion material I suppose.


Thanks a million dear Bob for reporting on this -- our world is changing SO fast.
Imagine what types of similar weapons exist, things that cannot be disclosed...

the recent downing of aircraft has me scratching my head, wondering what sort of "cold war" we're really engaged in.

eek? :)

[Limor Wolf]

Thanks Bob, These weapon toys are given to human beings to kill off each other and regretfully they also cause quite a lot of electromagnetic shock to the planet, but certainly these 'military development' or 'DARPA developments' or 'HAARP developments' are of no threat in a way of means of combat to the galactic invisible power who continue to do all they can for such a discussion to always stay on the human to human level, while these weapons and the humans promoting it are doing the job for them.

In that case, true awarness may be the real counter-measure to the currently possesed human beings, usually scientists, military people and politicians, who are following a mind controlled 'development' which is in effect a degredation of a species.

Quantom thoughts which you mentioned- as an 'inner technology' is just the opposite to that, it is a development that leads to evolution, a one which constitutes a real threat to the planners and perpetrators which will be forced to withdrawn if that one was sufficiently developed and pursued within enough earthly human beings and individuals

[BlueMuffin]

Just what we need for the ills of today's world... Helicopters endowed with sophisticated laser technology!

Why hadn't I thought of this earlier?

On a lighter note, this reminds me of the first Austin Powers movie where as Dr. Evil Ordered "sharks with frickin' laser beams" attached to their heads, but instead got mutated Sea Bass. : )

[ghostrider]

We are moving right in the direction of the ancient people of Mars , repeating history , they had global war with their laser weapons and destroyed the atmosphere of Mars and had to come here ... another step of taking technology and using it for War instead of the good of humanity ... sad

[Bob]

Thanks Bob, These weapon toys are given to human beings to kill off each other and regretfully they also cause quite a lot of electromagnetic shock to the planet, but certainly these 'military development' or 'DARPA developments' or 'HAARP developments' are of no threat in a way of means of combat to the galactic invisible power who continue to do all they can for such a discussion to always stay on the human to human level, while these weapons and the humans promoting it are doing the job for them.

In that case, true awarness may be the real counter-measure to the currently possesed human beings, usually scientists, military people and politicians, who are following a mind controlled 'development' which is in effect a degredation of a species.

Quantom thoughts which you mentioned- as an 'inner technology' is just the opposite to that, it is a development that leads to evolution, a one which constitutes a real threat to the planners and perpetrators which will be forced to withdrawn if that one was sufficiently developed and pursued within enough earthly human beings and individuals

Hi Limor - very well thought out - thanks

Something to ponder.. consider that the laser can be programmed with a thought too which neutralizes the operator's intent to use it.. (that can be done remotely, quantumly).

If in consciousness a type of population inversion (the laser stimulation equation) is used, consciousness can create a laser-like effect of not disruption but quantum manifestation..

And thereby remove the weapons concepts and uses (again using their "technology" to undo it)..

[Limor Wolf]

Thanks Bob, These weapon toys are given to human beings to kill off each other and regretfully they also cause quite a lot of electromagnetic shock to the planet, but certainly these 'military development' or 'DARPA developments' or 'HAARP developments' are of no threat in a way of means of combat to the galactic invisible power who continue to do all they can for such a discussion to always stay on the human to human level, while these weapons and the humans promoting it are doing the job for them.

In that case, true awarness may be the real counter-measure to the currently possesed human beings, usually scientists, military people and politicians, who are following a mind controlled 'development' which is in effect a degredation of a species.

Quantom thoughts which you mentioned- as an 'inner technology' is just the opposite to that, it is a development that leads to evolution, a one which constitutes a real threat to the planners and perpetrators which will be forced to withdrawn if that one was sufficiently developed and pursued within enough earthly human beings and individuals

Hi Limor - very well thought out - thanks

Something to ponder.. consider that the laser can be programmed with a thought too which neutralizes the operator's intent to use it.. (that can be done remotely, quantumly).

If in consciousness a type of population inversion (the laser stimulation equation) is used, consciousness can create a laser-like effect of not disruption but quantum manifestation..

And thereby remove the weapons concepts and uses (again using their "technology" to undo it)..

Not one to argue with you about that.. I may argue, however, that the time is short, the work is plentiful and there is a shortage in manpower, if you know what I mean.

Cheers ~

[Bob]

Zero hour - bootstrapping

Something to think about and it is painful.

If one needs to undo a pattern of what has happened, one needs to know the pattern to remove it (phase cancelling).

Not removing it completely and the pattern can fractaly expand back into the full blow "disease" lets say..

To KNOW the pattern, may mean living it completely, having the pain.

IF we were to assume that quantum time travel is possible
then
one would be able to use the exact pattern
to remove
the event... and end up with a permanent correction for the damage (the pain)..

It is ugly having the experience, but the solution is when quantumly un-done, it is done with.

Folks have heard me harp IDENTIFY, the first step, see what is happening, identify what when where why (and for how long has it happened).. then steps are possible.

[Limor Wolf]

Zero hour - bootstrapping

Something to think about and it is painful.

If one needs to undo a pattern of what has happened, one needs to know the pattern to remove it (phase cancelling).

Not removing it completely and the pattern can fractaly expand back into the full blow "disease" lets say..

To KNOW the pattern, may mean living it completely, having the pain.

IF we were to assume that quantum time travel is possible
then
one would be able to use the exact pattern
to remove
the event... and end up with a permanent correction for the damage (the pain)..

It is ugly having the experience, but the solution is when quantumly un-done, it is done with.

Folks have heard me harp IDENTIFY, the first step, see what is happening, identify what when where why (and for how long has it happened).. then steps are possible.

Zero hour - bootstrapping

Viewing the half full glass always seems to be worthwhile :)

So, if I read you correct, what is needed is a complete exploratory work and pedaling through the pain.. that is a reciepe not to be forgoten, but I am familiar with the truth in it and recognize the importance of getting this 'job' done, Individually and planetary. Untangling whatever knots were made, and then wrap it with a new surface.

Ready, set, go ~

[Bob]

I've look at the idea, that besides going backwards to undo the pattern (by fully having the pattern), possibly, if one can get sufficient "projection" (or projected 'what-if') data, moving ahead may be possible in etheric space.. I am uncertain as to the stability of such data though obtained that way.. (something like a viewing step, but it requires sufficient observations of the moment to get synched into that viewing method..)



Zero hour - bootstrapping

Viewing the half full glass always seems to be worthwhile

So, if I read you correct, what is needed is a complete exploratory work and pedaling through the pain.. that is a reciepe not to be forgoten, but I am familiar with the truth in it and recognize the importance of getting this 'job' done, Individually and planetary. Untangling whatever knots were made, and then wrap it with a new surface.

Ready, set, go ~

[Christine]

Hear, hear Bob and Limor.. (something like a viewing step, but it requires sufficient observations of the moment to get synched into that viewing method..)

Ready, set, go…

[Limor Wolf]

I've look at the idea, that besides going backwards to undo the pattern (by fully having the pattern), possibly, if one can get sufficient "projection" (or projected 'what-if') data, moving ahead may be possible in etheric space.. I am uncertain as to the stability of such data though obtained that way.. (something like a viewing step, but it requires sufficient observations of the moment to get synched into that viewing method..)



Zero hour - bootstrapping

Viewing the half full glass always seems to be worthwhile

So, if I read you correct, what is needed is a complete exploratory work and pedaling through the pain.. that is a reciepe not to be forgoten, but I am familiar with the truth in it and recognize the importance of getting this 'job' done, Individually and planetary. Untangling whatever knots were made, and then wrap it with a new surface.

Ready, set, go ~

That is an intersting idea, Bob, and I keep getting back to it in my mind. It seems that you gave it some thought.. In today's world and in the nature of reality we are in, it is valuable to explore what needs to be explored. So, is it possible to deprogram a planet, as much as it is possible to do so with the individual? is it possible to intervene in the etheric and have results in the physical at the current stage we are in?

Simply curious and interested to know how far did you get with this theory.. Thank you

[Bob]

I've look at the idea, that besides going backwards to undo the pattern (by fully having the pattern), possibly, if one can get sufficient "projection" (or projected 'what-if') data, moving ahead may be possible in etheric space.. I am uncertain as to the stability of such data though obtained that way.. (something like a viewing step, but it requires sufficient observations of the moment to get synched into that viewing method..)



Zero hour - bootstrapping

Viewing the half full glass always seems to be worthwhile

So, if I read you correct, what is needed is a complete exploratory work and pedaling through the pain.. that is a reciepe not to be forgoten, but I am familiar with the truth in it and recognize the importance of getting this 'job' done, Individually and planetary. Untangling whatever knots were made, and then wrap it with a new surface.

Ready, set, go ~

That is an intersting idea, Bob, and I keep getting back to it in my mind. It seems that you gave it some thought.. In today's world and in the nature of reality we are in, it is valuable to explore what needs to be explored. So, is it possible to deprogram a planet, as much as it is possible to do so with the individual? is it possible to intervene in the etheric and have results in the physical at the current stage we are in?

Simply curious and interested to know how far did you get with this theory.. Thank you

Hi Limor :)

I've highlighted what I think are the key words/points. I'll identify what I think are some observations and steps below, in the order of expanding the highlighted key words/points.

I'd say when we have tried with working on things like "habits", to create a new pattern, what happens? What are the steps done to do that - to deal with a habit? Some can quit "cold turkey" (meaning decision is made, and one just does it, and the habit can be changed).. Others need various gradient steps (one day at a time, one step at a time, one problem at a time).. A skilled healer will access a situation and look at what can be done in the moment with the tools at hand. I'm a firm believer we 'always' have the tools/energy to work with what is the most immediate step that helps us move forward. Moving forward could be subjectively defined.. A step forward for one person may be different for another, or for a planet (scaling up the micro to a larger macro perspective).

In quantum holographic reality, there is no time direction. Defining that as, "inside" our beliefs are programmed based on the perceived sensory, and the resultant stimulus responses (as modified by self programmed ethics/morals/wishes-desires and similar physically externally programmed ethics/morals/wishes-desires). When those beliefs are "running" in a living body, or a quantum computer duplicating the similar vibratory signals, physical space gets modified. (this is the thoughts can become things concept).. Quantum "noise" though, tends to erode away conscious programming.. Quantum noise can be organically created or created by physical objects that are "out of synch".

In the laser (this is somewhat why we are able to discuss this in this particular thread, of using a laser as a weapons system), the random-ness of the medium is continually excited over and over in a coherent alignment until the "population" of random patterns are placed in an orderly stable vibratory pattern, in-synch.. Then that in-synch pattern is able to be directed to create some sort of "work". Work means efforts expended to change the direction of something.

Same can be applied in consciousness to correct a habit, or make a habit.

I started research with lasers in 1964 developing methods to adjust the quantum content, not just the photon coherence. What I realized is information present in a system that is in-synch can be amazing.. Over the years, looking at the threshold levels, or the chaos vs alignment came up with a certain amount of value needed to keep the system running in a synchronous and coherent level. And then doing such one is able to note what is inducing chaos, or "system breakdown".. Health for instance can be viewed similarly, with the quantum hologram, applying the same observations and techniques.

As I see it, the key is what has been highlighted in the quote sections.. to address those points, through a first step of "observation", ID (identify), and determine where is one at (or where is one's group at, or society at, or planet at - simply changing gradients).. A person may feel overwhelmed at addressing anything past their own body.. (some may not be able to address even their own body or deal with their personal 'monsters/demons or other psychosis'), for others it may be easy to honestly and accurately (not delusionally) perceive sensory data coming in from other quantum vibratory sources (in the environment) and then access.. the step is to access then, what is happening with that data. IS it coherent in itself? Is it coherent with oneself? So...

At that point, the evaluation step comes in. I tend to feel a group consensus is a good idea as no-one person should be meddling with the rest of reality. Call it an honest evaluative council is needed to apply the observational points, determine what societal ethics are, and individual rights are, and come up with a way of balancing the system. An individual gets really upset when they believe their rights to be (an asshole, a monster, a compassionate, a free - - in short 'whatever' are abrogated).. And then the arguments happen, a monster for one group may be perfectly acceptable in that group but horrendous to the rest of the world - who is right? Generally the strongest brute force, or the strongest "programmer" wins, and the looser complains to no end.. Not a workable system where the stronger overwhelms the weaker... That is the way the world was setup = therefore that is the first group issue to deal with in correcting an early engrained habit..

I'll leave it at that for the moment - much more, but the early key points are starting to be discussed.. If the solutional outcome is to have coherence, freedom, ability, outreach, security and "overall-feel-good" then steps can be achieved to get such accomplished. Working from the two extremes ('end result' and what started it (the rightness or wrongness is arbitrary for the model) ) one is able to look at the quantum program that is in-place.. That quantum program is what is running, is what has setup things as-they-are. So we loop back on IDENTIFICATION (ID) where are we in the quantum program, at the beginning or at the end or somewhere in the middle... (ASSESS STEP).. then we can steer if that is it, or change the whole program.

--Bob


Hear, hear Bob and Limor.. (something like a viewing step, but it requires sufficient observations of the moment to get synched into that viewing method..)

Ready, set, go…

:)

[naste.de.lumina]

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Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/11/israel-unleashes-death-ray-on-gaza/

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Hey Bob. thanks for the warning

[Bob]

Hi Naste - that image above has been debunked in other threads - that pix depicts a white phosphorus bomb explosion. See the Israel tonite thread.. - b.

UPDATE with LINK - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72897-This-evening-in-Israel&p=864286&viewfull=1#post864286

.. sigh, one can see what the white phosphorus weapon does to people, places.. the "ray" like effect is a burning particle.. (those phosphorus weapons are criminal cause they continue to destroy tissue after they hit)

Here is another post in the Israel Tonignt thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72897-This-evening-in-Israel&p=864570&viewfull=1#post864570) depicting Israel use of illegal white phosphorus weapons (be sure to read the NY Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/29/opinion/29tue1.html?_r=0) on US SUPPORT of white phosphorus in the Afghanistan conflicts - link in the post..)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72897-This-evening-in-Israel&p=864570&viewfull=1#post864570

With the white phosphorus AIR BURST and ground burst component, glowing particles track from the sky downwards. Folks have seen "fireworks" displays and seen how the particle streams continue to glow.. Here is an example:


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All the above in this post are fireworks examples.. When the particles are hot they glow.. And make visible tracks the trajectory and shape dependent on the size and speed of the particles.

Laser target damage is very different than white phosphorus weapons use.

[Bob]

NAVY cancels helicopter laser project

(So they say...) hmm.. must be a high priority now maybe?

(Source (http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2014/08/laser-program-scrapped.html?cmpid=EnlMAEspecSeptember22014))

As pointed out in the OP and elsewhere in the forum, the High Energy Fibre Laser system is being funded by other military organisations as THE LASER of choice for weapons use.

But now they are backpedaling ?

"Navy scraps anticipated program to develop prototype laser weapons for helicopter operations at sea"

"Navy laser weapons experts say they are scrapping a plan to develop a high-energy laser weapon for manned and unmanned helicopters to perform a variety of military operations at sea.

Officials of the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division at China Lake Naval Weapons Station in Ridgecrest, Calif., announced Tuesday that they are cancelling -- at least for the time being -- the anticipated High Energy Fiber Laser industry competition to develop a prototype laser weapon for demonstrations aboard a Navy helicopter.

"No reasons for the program cancellation were given in an industry announcement released Tuesday.

"Should the Government choose to advertise this opportunity in the future, a new synopsis will be issued," the announcement says. "

---> Strange, the image in the OP supplied by group interested in these lasers is showing HELICOPTER FIRING ON LAND, (not sea..) (snicker.. wonder if that program is still going on and is now sufficiently "black" and the vendors have responded to the Navy's satisfaction..)

REVIEW this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74033-Military-knows-UAV-s-can-be-deadly-wants-new-LASERS-to-shoot-them-down&p=866853&viewfull=1#post866853) to understand the high energy fibre laser systems used by the military AND industry..


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