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TargeT
7th August 2014, 14:46
:shocked:

Yes, we've seen this topic floating around, but really, if you try to; you can pull together some nearly conclusive proof that we are in an artificial reality. :suspicious:



"Doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block code," first invented by Claude Shannon in the 1940's, has been discovered embedded WITHIN the equations of superstring theory!

Why does nature have this? What errors does it need to correct? What is an 'error' for nature? More importantly what is the explanation for this freakish discovery? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Joe Rogan & NASA Physicist: We're Living in the Matrix
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Brakeman
7th August 2014, 14:52
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

;)

TargeT
7th August 2014, 15:06
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

;)

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

Operator
7th August 2014, 15:13
Computer code should reflect a model of real life in order to 'work' ...
So, perhaps not so surprising if it also works in the other direction :noidea:

sirdipswitch
7th August 2014, 15:25
Y'all gonna laugh, when ya find out who we really are,

:wizard:and the game we play with... ourselves. ccc.:wizard:

donk
7th August 2014, 15:35
Cool thread, it is why I thought the StarGate Universe series was neat…the reality there is that the Atlanteans sent out a ship (the Destiny) a bazillion years ago whenever they existed to experience the universe, seeking out the meaning of the “background radiation” that seemed to be a pattern/intelligent design.

Pam
7th August 2014, 15:51
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

;)

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.


Thanks for this wonderful thread. I agree with your theory TargeT. I often wonder if the Parallel Universe concept is actually the same game but each parallel universe is the vantage point of each "splinter" of consciousness. Each would be separate and yet interactive at the same time. I find this info fascinating at the intellectual level but I also have this really strong intuitive feeling that we are in this matrix like game.

Agape
7th August 2014, 15:56
It's an interesting idea but I don't think it means exactly that we live in simulated reality unless we are able to reconstruct such a virtual reality by our means .

If you look closely to anything from abstract maths to physical laws , we are not creating these things, these 'matrix fractions' or 'pixels' , we are merely drafting them , rediscovering what's always been there, the way that energy is related to matter and what way are both of them related to us .
The 'laws' = 'the matrix' are holistic phenomenon ..in reality ..or 'in nature' if you wish , they don't exist as bunch of separate equations ,
in reality they are all one .

It's our mind ( thinking process ) at the moment that is fragmented and keeps breaking the 'reality matrix' to individual fractions for simplicity and to be able to solve 'individual laws' while at the same time,
any hidden law we establish here is an approximation .. and secondly, it's a law with both ends open . It means it contains two unknown values ( at least ) that are part of another equations and laws . And so forth.

They are approximations for the same reason perhaps , the same way as when you are trying to use the same ruler to take measure of size of rocks .
The ruler is 'constant approximation' . The nature contains some of the most complicated measures and relationships within itself in the meantime .

And where is the process all contained ? In us, definitely , we are running simulations in our 'brains' and all living intelligence works on simulating the surrounding environment all the time , if only to be able adjust to it .

What happens is that the surrounding reality sends us feedback to whatever simulation we run and keeps correcting our inaccuracy and discrepancies .
We have to interact with the 'reality matrix' via our consciousness and intelligence and through the same gate we receive feedback .

I'm surprised , sometimes .. when even some of those people like physicists or biologists etc . remain unaware of the fact that we keep merely discovering reality as it stands , we are not creating laws , chemical reactions that the Universe would not have created long before us . What a surprise we keep hitting the walls ?


:)

TargeT
7th August 2014, 17:08
Thanks for this wonderful thread. I agree with your theory TargeT. I often wonder if the Parallel Universe concept is actually the same game but each parallel universe is the vantage point of each "splinter" of consciousness. Each would be separate and yet interactive at the same time. I find this info fascinating at the intellectual level but I also have this really strong intuitive feeling that we are in this matrix like game.

absolutely, we are all, with in our own perception based existence experiencing a unique "reality"; if you only count humans (I don't) that's at least 8 billion (rough guesstimate) separate "universes" based on the perception of each individual. I think the perception of a rock is another reality, and that of the individual elements that make it up (ad infinitude....) this is probably why the vegan approach both confuses and amuses me (though I try my best not to disturb the perception based reality of my fellow experiencers; sometimes its hard not to & probably by design, since we need to interact with each other for this game to work as intended).

I'd take it further (and this is mostly evidence free intuition, which I'm not always the biggest fan of): Each of these separate experiences is "custom" designed for this expression of our consciousness (I'd say ego here, but I think that is just a tool, a set of programs to help re-enforce the "individual-ness" of our existence... we apparently need constant reminding of "me" for it to stay effective). We have a set of lessons or experiences that we go through to learn more about ourselves (why else would we desire to objectively experience our selves?) and every experience is entirely valid.

Now I am aware of the implications of this, does this mean that mass murder is valid? does this mean that child rape and sacrifice is valid?

What are this theories implications on morality?

Can you treat your self immorally?

Do we need these experiences so that we can reject them (as clearly the vast majority do)? (an experience not fully explored is an experience not fully understood).

Could this be the reason why the "Psychopaths/Sociopaths" exists? Who else would do these things we find distasteful & how would we define our boundaries and limits with out pushing past them to see where the edge is?

Another interesting thought: clearly we strive to do this (experience reality from a frame outside of our own), any game, but especially computer games are basically the exact same thing as I am talking about here... a simulated world that we go to to experience things that we couldn't experience in our original form, I assume this is why "gaming" is such a HUGE industry, it taps into a fundamental desire (and fractally it makes sense that we would create more simulations inside of a simulation that is fractal/holographic).

I like this idea because it gives me an anchor from which to alter my perception of events in my particular universe, and since perception IS the master of our reality, it seems that becoming flexible in your perception of events is a very empowering skill to have.

TargeT
7th August 2014, 17:35
It's an interesting idea but I don't think it means exactly that we live in simulated reality unless we are able to reconstruct such a virtual reality by our means .

Well I'm not so much defining the nature of the simulation (matrix, virtual reality, what have you...), I'm not saying it's running on a computer somewhere (though I suppose that is possible? I guess it depends on how you define computer) I guess it's more of a realization that our reality has a very defined set of rules, and "computers" that we are used to function off these same rules. That means that there is a design, there are specific elements, there is a quantifiable framework and "rule" set out there and we mirror it with what we do on computers and simulations. Again, fractally this makes a lot of sense.


If you look closely to anything from abstract maths to physical laws , we are not creating these things, these 'matrix fractions' or 'pixels' , we are merely drafting them , rediscovering what's always been there, the way that energy is related to matter and what way are both of them related to us .
The 'laws' = 'the matrix' are holistic phenomenon ..in reality ..or 'in nature' if you wish , they don't exist as bunch of separate equations ,
in reality they are all one .

But from the inside of a simulation, wouldn't these things "seem" holistic?



And where is the process all contained ? In us, definitely , we are running simulations in our 'brains' and all living intelligence works on simulating the surrounding environment all the time , if only to be able adjust to it .

This is semantics really, and I don't mean to detract from your point (I agree with the concept of it) but I don't think the important stuff happens "inside our brains" I'm pretty convinced we are just an antenna for consciousness, much like an avatar in a game is the conduit of the player, and this appears to be corroborated in quite a few studies.



I'm surprised , sometimes .. when even some of those people like physicists or biologists etc . remain unaware of the fact that we keep merely discovering reality as it stands , we are not creating laws , chemical reactions that the Universe would not have created long before us . What a surprise we keep hitting the walls ?


:)

Yes, there is a problem when you become too focused on the details and exclude the rest of the system... Everything should be considered as a part of a system or "the" system/matrix/reality/nature what ever you choose to label it.

778 neighbour of some guy
7th August 2014, 17:39
Nice thread, very cool and interesting stuff, reminds me very much of my iboga experience, I saw the individual particles that up my 3 d meat suit as grains of sand and could create and make myself fall apart, with a single thought, the fun part was, I fell apart in no particular order, but the recreating started in a very particular order ( from the inside out, structural integrity first, all the rest followed as it had something to hang on to, it IS supposed to be that way, it is the law, or the code if you will). Consequently, these days everything I see, read, hear cant hold a candle to that experience and what it taught me, deconstructing ones self to the core is a very valuable lesson.

Btw, Joe Rogan usually impresses me, he is a very smart dude, he gets it but is never afraid to call himself an insignificant idiot, this gives the man high value, him being a fighter and challenging himself every day to go face to face with his own possible physical destruction means a lot more to then the opinions of armchair theorists and know-it-alls. I consider him to be a deep soul diver who knows what tools to use to arrive at a destination with light speed and see for him self what's up. Experience beats bullsh!t every time.

TargeT
7th August 2014, 17:56
Nice thread, very cool and interesting stuff, reminds me very much of my iboga experience, I saw the individual particles that up my 3 d meat suit as grains of sand and could create and make myself fall apart, with a single thought, the fun part was, I fell apart in no particular order, but the recreating started in a very particular order ( from the inside out, structural integrity first, all the rest followed as it had something to hang on to, it IS supposed to be that way, it is the law, or the code if you will). Consequently, these days everything I see, read, hear cant hold a candle to that experience and what it taught me, deconstructing ones self to the core is a very valuable lesson.



I've heard some great stuff about Iboga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernanthe_iboga) and would like to explore it, currently I am looking into the San Pedro cacti and traditions that surround it... if you have some time listen to this experience:
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it literally brought me to tears when he talked about his experience with his dead relative (even the memory of it now gets me a little "misty"; and I'm the least emotional person I know).






Btw, Joe Rogan usually impresses me, he is a very smart dude, he gets it but is never afraid to call himself an insignificant idiot, this gives the man high value, him being a fighter and challenging himself every day to go face to face with his own possible physical destruction means a lot more to then the opinions of armchair theorists and know-it-alls. I consider him to be a deep soul diver who knows what tools to use to arrive at a destination with light speed and see for him self what's up. Experience beats bullsh!t every time.

Oh yes, I've been listening to Joe's pod casts (most of them) for a while now(almost a year). I'm fortunate that I work an IT job and can have it running in the background and absorb the 3 hour blocks of fascinating conversation; Joe is an exemplary "human" though he still has a few failings (which I like even more! I'd not deify him, nor should anyone.. he's human and his perception is based on his environment; which makes his current mental state even more impressive(given his "Hollywood" environment)).



I would love to do a JRE-like podcast myself (I think I have a few skill sets that would naturally lend to the format), but then I'd also like to become a Shaman (which I also think I have a few beneficial skill sets) but I'm hesitant to take the responsibility of this type of teaching and educating. (which honestly, I also see as an indication that I probably should pursue something along those lines... I think I'm slowly psyching myself up for it).


Anyway, I highly suggest his podcasts, though I personally skip over quite a bit of the MMA stuff.

778 neighbour of some guy
7th August 2014, 18:19
Joe is an exemplary "human" though he still has a few failings (which I like even more! I'd not deify him, nor should anyone.. he's human and his perception is based on his environment; which makes his current mental state even more impressive(given his "Hollywood" environment)).

Well his environment might even be helpful I think, he is very close to what NOT to become and that could be his whole purpose of being there in the first place "keep your enemies closer", his personal failings, everyone has them, but at least he has the nerve to doubt himself in public ( loud) and the sincerity and authenticity of that is something that cannot be denied and I like it, deifying is the last thing he wants or needs I think, that floatation tank must have taught him a great deal as well, literally losing all of ones senses, besides presence of consciousness is mind boggling and very confronting 'wtf is it that's in this tank???'.


I would love to do a JRE-like podcast myself (I think I have a few skill sets that would naturally lend to the format), but then I'd also like to become a Shaman (which I also think I have a few beneficial skill sets) but I'm hesitant to take the responsibility of this type of teaching and educating. (which honestly, I also see as an indication that I probably should pursue something along those lines... I think I'm slowly psyching myself up for it).

You can be who ever you want to be man, your audience has the same responsibility for discernment as everyone else has, they lend their own weight they want or want to see or hear to your message, you are just another voice, all you have to hang on to is your own personal integrity when you share whatever it is you wish to share, from then on its out of your hands. ( take a good look around on this forum for example, people will run off with a lot of crap just because it fits their current perspective, talk to them next year and you'll get a completely different answer, grin).


Anyway, I highly suggest his podcasts, though I personally skip over quite a bit of the MMA stuff.

His Rickson Gracie interview was quite good actually. I listen to them too sometimes, the man is OK and uses a lot of discernment, "Joe Rogan questions everything" is not a bad series at all for example, not what most people on this forum want to hear, but its not a bad thing at all to want tangible evidence and use common sense and logic to get it. The guy is living the dream, created his own world and explores everything else on his own terms and within his means of understanding, takes responsibility for it and shares his personal interests and questions publicly, that is something to be admired, and he's not being stuck up about it either.

Apologies for dragging your thread of topic.

Aubrey did Ibogaine too btw, it can be intense;) but the lesson is worth it, if you can make sure you are not surrounded by people puking it will make the experience easier, ghehehe.

johnf
7th August 2014, 18:32
Anything that is created, that is as complex and as dynamic as the multiverse would need
something analogous to error trapping code, self monitoring loops, as well as security protocols, fire walls etc.
All living things have these things in some form or another.

Artificial, or natural might be arbitrary divisions.
But it certainly does seem to be created, self referencing, self organizing.
Another arbitrary division might be is it a trap or a ride?
Seeing it as a ride makes things simpler to most, but irregardless of the filter the multiverse is what we are doing.

John

Brakeman
7th August 2014, 19:03
This code is mirrored through nature.

Cells in the body have a code in which they "self destruct" to balance their environment.

Apoptosis.

60 billion cells in your body undergo apoptosis daily.

DNA is the conduit.

And a physical, measurable manifestation of the governing codes and equations that dictate the flesh of the universe.

Agape
7th August 2014, 20:07
Well I'm not so much defining the nature of the simulation (matrix, virtual reality, what have you...), I'm not saying it's running on a computer somewhere (though I suppose that is possible? I guess it depends on how you define computer) I guess it's more of a realization that our reality has a very defined set of rules, and "computers" that we are used to function off these same rules. That means that there is a design, there are specific elements, there is a quantifiable framework and "rule" set out there and we mirror it with what we do on computers and simulations. Again, fractally this makes a lot of sense.

Actually, yes , the way I see it also supports the idea that there is an intelligent design to the Universe ..however and especially in the case of the bigger, physical Universe - or Multiverse - the design is big enough for us to ever encompass fully and secondly - and this may not sound like a good news - it's a moving design .
It keeps reorganising itself , restructuring indefinitely in ways that leave many layers of itself in chaotic state which is basically also free state , permitting possibilities .

There is ( or should I say may be ) basic grid , like a crystalline or fractal structure to the way Universes are formed but at the same time ..there is vast amount of 'poorly organised' energy and matter that is 'free' to great deal and can become part of the design yet, in future .
I don't think it's easy to answer whether the Universe is Perfect because it may be perfect from its own inherent viewpoint and IF the extreme of the 'matrix theory' would be correct , by knowing its laws we would be able ( or are able ) to manipulate all sort of nature of physical reality
however , the question begs , would no one, even hypothetically , done so before this moment ?
Would they (not) keep record of what they've done or would they consider such knowledge too risky and if so , why at all ?

And unless .. the Universe IS conscious from deep within as some people suggest , as sort of 'Universal computer' able to correct its mistakes .. for here, again, we stand on the edge of presumption that even 'perfect computer' has number of glitches ,
unless the Universe is super-conscious in such manner .. what could allow us to think that we could , even potentially , reach a level of such super-intelligence,
one that created us in the first place ..






But from the inside of a simulation, wouldn't these things "seem" holistic?

Indeed . The reality of most intelligent life is that the sense of reality we experience while being 'part of the larger whole' makes us somehow 'peer shaped' , even if holistic .
I am more in favour of open systems and relativity , in this part of theoretical physics because what I saw and tried for concepts thought before through various cosmological systems , concepts to do with 'perfectly structured' Universe and perfectly cyclical space-time ended up usually ( over thousands of years of humanistic debate ) as either unprovable or close systems that could not make it further .







This is semantics really, and I don't mean to detract from your point (I agree with the concept of it) but I don't think the important stuff happens "inside our brains" I'm pretty convinced we are just an antenna for consciousness, much like an avatar in a game is the conduit of the player, and this appears to be corroborated in quite a few studies.


That may be also very correct but ..the point I was trying to make is that we actually simulate the quality of physical laws in learning process, as other kinds of intelligent organisms all do .

I don't mean only the brain as piece of computer or 'antenna' for higher consciousness , I am quite certain that complex and complicated mathematical processes are actually taking place in our 'brain and body system' and the 'extension' of our 'peer shaped' physical structure itself serves as antenna or antennas , as one of its functions, extensions of the neocortex supplying it with information and allowing it to learn by experiment .

For example .. young toddler who learns to walk - pretty fast from the horizontal baby state he/she has been in for couple of months can not walk 'straight' , out of sudden ,
he has to learn how to calculate gravity , weight , velocity of motion and so on.
It's not only his own evolution either allowing or not to stand straight and walk ,
the ability has to be tested .. though he knows nothing yet of Newton or Einstein , he learns to calculate distance and when ball you throw at him reaches the aim and when does it come back and where if thrown at wall .

Even adult monkey hanging from tree branches is capable of simple calculation and has to master it well , pretty fast .. but newborn baby does not know . And if you bring him up in environment without any branches to hold on , an empty room for example , and return him back too late in his life he/she would have much less motor skills than his tree grown peers .

Similarly , a child put to water early can learn to swim fast .. without necessarily understanding laws of physics , simply by adopting them .. and using its own internal processing to calculate the power of wave .. versus motion, weight and so on.

Top gymnasts who perform complicated acrobatic feats or dancers who are trained in swirls and jumps have to learn a lot about torsion fields and have testable greater spatial intelligence than average populace ..while most of them did not study maths or physics .

Physicist and mathematicians .. from the other end .. are sometimes also great philosophers because all abstract laws seem to play multiple sense to our understanding of the whole .

I don't think I've explained myself quite well yet ..later times .


:angel:

truth4me
7th August 2014, 23:05
Y'all gonna laugh, when ya find out who we really are,

:wizard:and the game we play with... ourselves. ccc.:wizard: Well who are we for I really want to know.....

TargeT
7th August 2014, 23:53
Joe Rogan & NASA Physicist: We're Living in the Matrix
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Joe Rogan, simulation theory, computer code, quantum physics, Duncan Trussell, Tom Campbell, Thomas Campbell, matrix, James Gates Jr., Neil DeGrasse Tyson, digital universe, multiverse, information, holographic universe, Chris Delamo

I like this one a lot, succinct enough to share with others that aren't innately interested in this topic, testing on the wife now.... I'm already aligned with the concepts in this video so it's nice to see the reaction of those that aren't.

T Smith
8th August 2014, 02:07
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

;)

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

Methinks you're on to something.... Which reminds me of the B-poem from the little-known and unsung philosopher Dooharvey Cantsabody:

A bushel of oranges once said
How we wish we were dead!
Isn't there any more like us?
We're All There Is
Why even fuss?

So the oranges hemmed and hawed
And searched the trees
Prayed to God, got on their knees
Oh Lord, can't there be Something More?
Groves of oranges we implore!

Well... just one more orange?
We humbly peep
To throw upon our modest heap?

When no answer came from God Within
As they realized Yang was really Yin
They came upon the only cure
That which rendered infinity pure

Faith...we'll have in One More Orange
Faith...we'll have in Something More

Woe O Oranges!
Reality Be:
We're All There Is!
Faith, dear friends, is Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door

Ah! Then despite knowing the painful lore
Faith we'll have in one more orange!
Then we may fuss, then we may say
We're not All There Is!
There's Something More across the way!

And then to All's surprise
Amid the fuss of Something More
They came... upon... one...more....orange!
In spite of the painful lore!
(And Yin and Yang, who lived next door!)

Alas! There's one more orange upon our heap!
All There Is and Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door!

Faith restored!
Nary a ruse!
One More Orange!
We paid our dues!

And the bushel of oranges
Sang and danced
And came upon a new romance
Until one cleaver young orange declared
Why, nothing's changed!
We're still All There Is!
Just re-arranged!

Isn't there anymore like us?

Alas...We're All There Is...
Why even fuss?

Reality Be All There Is
Faith is Something More
And Yin and Yang, who live next door....

guayabal
8th August 2014, 06:47
I tend to think that chaos (randomness) is a lie, it is just not really possible, it doesn't exist. All information is just a reflection of how the universe is (highly and beautifully) ordered. We do not live in a simulation. The world simulation is just a trick to keep the lie alive, we live in the real thing.

Aurvandil
8th August 2014, 10:21
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

;)

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

Methinks you're on to something.... Which reminds me of the B-poem from the little-known and unsung philosopher Dooharvey Cantsabody:

A bushel of oranges once said
How we wish we were dead!
Isn't there any more like us?
We're All There Is
Why even fuss?

So the oranges hemmed and hawed
And searched the trees
Prayed to God, got on their knees
Oh Lord, can't there be Something More?
Groves of oranges we implore!

Well... just one more orange?
We humbly peep
To throw upon our modest heap?

When no answer came from God Within
As they realized Yang was really Yin
They came upon the only cure
That which rendered infinity pure

Faith...we'll have in One More Orange
Faith...we'll have in Something More

Woe O Oranges!
Reality Be:
We're All There Is!
Faith, dear friends, is Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door

Ah! Then despite knowing the painful lore
Faith we'll have in one more orange!
Then we may fuss, then we may say
We're not All There Is!
There's Something More across the way!

And then to All's surprise
Amid the fuss of Something More
They came... upon... one...more....orange!
In spite of the painful lore!
(And Yin and Yang, who lived next door!)

Alas! There's one more orange upon our heap!
All There Is and Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door!

Faith restored!
Nary a ruse!
One More Orange!
We paid our dues!

And the bushel of oranges
Sang and danced
And came upon a new romance
Until one cleaver young orange declared
Why, nothing's changed!
We're still All There Is!
Just re-arranged!

Isn't there anymore like us?

Alas...We're All There Is...
Why even fuss?

Reality Be All There Is
Faith is Something More
And Yin and Yang, who live next door....



Oh, I really liked this poem! Wonderful! We are never really content, are we? ;)

Cidersomerset
8th August 2014, 12:07
this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.


I like it.....This is the Targe T version of the ion material....LOL


We are all the gods and manifest everything in this reality
so sooner or later , everyones theories will play out one
way or another.......

TargeT
8th August 2014, 12:37
I tend to think that chaos (randomness) is a lie, it is just not really possible, it doesn't exist. All information is just a reflection of how the universe is (highly and beautifully) ordered. We do not live in a simulation. The world simulation is just a trick to keep the lie alive, we live in the real thing.

Well given the situation in this thread is accurate: there can be something similar to "chaos" but only in the context of the rule set of "the game"... much like we "randomly" generate numbers now (which turn out to rarely be wholly random).

But your right, even the "chaos" follows the rules of this game, I think the "simulation" is the lie that needs to be hidden to keep the simulation alive; and there is more and more evidence that this is the case (things we have only found recently really).

I wonder if that is why there are occasional "planetary resets" (global disasters like meteor strikes that put the planet into an iceage etc...); this game doesn't work as well when you know it's just a game. Regardless of the disaster our chosen avitar always seems to be present (humans) even though millions of life forms have gone extinct on this planet due to these "resets" (I always wondered at that....)

Though perhaps not... that's a half baked theory (maybe not even half)

Arak
8th August 2014, 13:58
Yes. Simulation or hologram, I dont care. I just want to learn to hack this code and bend the universe around us. If there is a code, there is a way to hack it.

TargeT
8th August 2014, 14:16
Yes. Simulation or hologram, I dont care. I just want to learn to hack this code and bend the universe around us. If there is a code, there is a way to hack it.

EXACTLY my thought.

this is where "Zero Point" energy will come from, and everything else we so desire.... and the funny (to me) thing is, everything we need to study and learn is right here in front of us, no mysteries.

I think there has been a very concentrated effort to confuse certain aspects of the simulation, so the majority do NOT know how to manipulate the rule set of this game to their greatest benefit.

For example, why do we consider Electricity to be a singular phenomenon? Electricity always comes in a trinity... Electric Magnetic and Gravitational forces ALWAYS come grouped together, why are we not considering that?

There are many more examples out there of techniques that have been quietly shunned or actively suppressed. Like how adding sonic vibration and electricity to water allows for burning of hydrogen with out completely breaking the h20 bond.

Jake
8th August 2014, 15:01
Potentials and Probabilities!! :) Nothing really existing unless it is engaged by consciousness... The inseparability of matter and consciousness is a big clue... imho... The studies into consciousness is a journey back to being whole again. :) And not just a Matrix,, Matrices, Plural.

Target,, I like your big picture! Not too far off from mine! :) There are manymany creational realities. Physicality just being one of them... I believe it came down to a choice. To be, or not to be? The core, of the soul of ALL being,, chose life!

Fractal Matrices...
Jake.

Agape
8th August 2014, 15:09
Yes. Simulation or hologram, I dont care. I just want to learn to hack this code and bend the universe around us. If there is a code, there is a way to hack it.

Are you sure that IF you break the Universal code that it will be the same code as the one before it was 'broken' and more so that the code itself , won't break you, in return ?

Of course, I don't believe the 'target problem' represents 'absolute equation' . If it did , it would not allow full access to any 'partial intelligence' , maybe fraction of access ..

....

Of reality .. when a butterfly flies around living room and i am not really chasing it but the ceiling lamp glass , one of 8 .. falls down and breaks to million pieces ..
I think the butterfly wants to ask me if we've heard of 'butterfly effect' . It just happened hour ago ..the butterfly laughed and flew away.

It's how butterflies hack to PA forum. Beware ;)

araucaria
8th August 2014, 15:26
Of reality .. when a butterfly flies around living room and i am not really chasing it but the ceiling lamp glass , one of 8 .. falls down and breaks to million pieces ..
I think the butterfly wants to ask me if we've heard of 'butterfly effect' . It just happened hour ago ..the butterfly laughed and flew away.

Tell her yes, and that we understand that it is in retaliation for the Madama Butterfly effect, whereby colonialist humans toy with and ultimately destroy anyone gentler than themselves. We are working on this and hopefully a truce will be called: no more squashed butterflies, and no more tornadoes.
:)

jackovesk
8th August 2014, 15:48
Potentials and Probabilities!! :) Nothing really existing unless it is engaged by consciousness... The inseparability of matter and consciousness is a big clue... imho... The studies into consciousness is a journey back to being whole again. :) And not just a Matrix,, Matrices, Plural.

Target,, I like your big picture! Not too far off from mine! :) There are manymany creational realities. Physicality just being one of them... I believe it came down to a choice. To be, or not to be? The core, of the soul of ALL being,, chose life!

Fractal Matrices...
Jake.

..............


Potentials and Probabilities!! Nothing really existing unless it is engaged by consciousness... The inseparability of matter and consciousness is a big clue... imho... The studies into consciousness is a journey back to being whole again. And not just a Matrix,,

Spot On there Jake...:thumb:

...and you definitely won't need any modern form of computer to HACK the Code...:nono:

Yep, just a standard sized healthy human brain should do the trick...:yes4:

I was going to suggest to TargeT, that very same thought...

All done through ((Meditation)) :phone: The only direct line to SOURCE...:)

TargeT
8th August 2014, 17:25
Yep, just a standard sized healthy human brain should do the trick...:yes4:

I was going to suggest to TargeT, that very same thought...

All done through ((Meditation)) :phone: The only direct line to SOURCE...:)

I agree, we have all the tools needed; but we just have been too distracted and convinced that it's not possible.


I think technology used correctly can assist with this as well, meditation seeks to find the state that can be reached easily by the average person in a float tank.

Psychedelics allow the mind to overcome it's own programmed blocks and (with the right intent) access to lessons and knowledge that can advance a person greatly.


it appears, that the tool is less important than the intent, which makes a lot of sense given this "simulation" scenario.

13th Warrior
8th August 2014, 20:10
I think Marko Rodin's Vortex Based Mathematics illustrates the fractal based code you are talking about...

Brakeman
8th August 2014, 20:35
Sometimes our brains have trouble reading the code.

The McGurk Effect.

:p

Agape
8th August 2014, 20:45
Of reality .. when a butterfly flies around living room and i am not really chasing it but the ceiling lamp glass , one of 8 .. falls down and breaks to million pieces ..
I think the butterfly wants to ask me if we've heard of 'butterfly effect' . It just happened hour ago ..the butterfly laughed and flew away.

Tell her yes, and that we understand that it is in retaliation for the Madama Butterfly effect, whereby colonialist humans toy with and ultimately destroy anyone gentler than themselves. We are working on this and hopefully a truce will be called: no more squashed butterflies, and no more tornadoes.
:)

I think you are right , and 'she' ( definitely it's her ) keeps visiting me for couple of days now and flies out again . It's one of those : Vanessa Atalanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_atalanta)

Mayans believed in the same thing , you never know what the butterfly knows and does not say .

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/gbs_zps470dc488.gif (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/gbs_zps470dc488.gif.html)

jackovesk
9th August 2014, 00:46
Yep, just a standard sized healthy human brain should do the trick...:yes4:

I was going to suggest to TargeT, that very same thought...

All done through ((Meditation)) :phone: The only direct line to SOURCE...:)

I agree, we have all the tools needed; but we just have been too distracted and convinced that it's not possible.


I think technology used correctly can assist with this as well, meditation seeks to find the state that can be reached easily by the average person in a float tank.

Psychedelics allow the mind to overcome it's own programmed blocks and (with the right intent) access to lessons and knowledge that can advance a person greatly.


it appears, that the tool is less important than the intent, which makes a lot of sense given this "simulation" scenario.




EXACTLY my thought.

this is where "Zero Point" energy will come from, and everything else we so desire.... and the funny (to me) thing is, everything we need to study and learn is right here in front of us, no mysteries.


The 'KeY' to unlocking ones mind has a lot to do with what I like to term the 'Saturation Effect'

Meditate on this - After you have learned all you can about the (Underlying Mathematics) of the Problem



Allow your mind to 'Flow' around the formulas
Visualise a (Solution) without thinking about it, if that makes sense (Think about it)...
& Let the 'Flow' take you where you need to go to find the answers


The answers will come to you in a visual form, so have a notebook & pen ready for that (Ah-Ha) moment...

Arak
9th August 2014, 04:18
Yesterday I participated to this huge global meditation session held by Deepak Chopra. It had over 100 000 people joining around the globe all focusing on in peace, love and light. I had waited this for long for many reasons, but this event was also perfect test to see if our meditations will steer our path? Ofcourse 100 000 is not that many if there are 7 000 000 000 people who think the opposite, but anyway, being the biggest group meditation of all-times it was the best we can do at the moment. Now I am quite anxious to see if there are any results in a planetary scale or in a personal level.

These results would indicate that mind had power over matter in a large scale. I ofc am aware of certain individuals, mainly Buddhist monks, who are told to be able to shape the physical reality with their minds. These skills are usually attained through deep meditation and ascetism.

But could it really be so simple to hack the code? Or is it also in the code that if person does this deep meditation and ascetism succesfully, he/she is able to do this and that? That would not yet be hacking the code, but just using a feature in the program.

araucaria
9th August 2014, 07:29
Of reality .. when a butterfly flies around living room and i am not really chasing it but the ceiling lamp glass , one of 8 .. falls down and breaks to million pieces ..
I think the butterfly wants to ask me if we've heard of 'butterfly effect' . It just happened hour ago ..the butterfly laughed and flew away.

Tell her yes, and that we understand that it is in retaliation for the Madama Butterfly effect, whereby colonialist humans toy with and ultimately destroy anyone gentler than themselves. We are working on this and hopefully a truce will be called: no more squashed butterflies, and no more tornadoes.
:)

I think you are right , and 'she' ( definitely it's her ) keeps visiting me for couple of days now and flies out again . It's one of those : Vanessa Atalanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_atalanta)

Mayans believed in the same thing , you never know what the butterfly knows and does not say .

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/gbs_zps470dc488.gif (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/gbs_zps470dc488.gif.html)
A Red Admirable, known chauvinistically as a Red Admiral.
Listening to the radio just now, a listener has requested (and obtained) a miracle: Faurés 'Le Papillon et la fleur' (the butterfly and the flower): the poor earthbound flower needs a pair of wings! See the link below for the poem by Victor Hugo.

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http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=8536

ponda
9th August 2014, 09:23
Great thread TargetT




I think Marko Rodin's Vortex Based Mathematics illustrates the fractal based code you are talking about...


Very interesting 13th Warrior.Thanks for posting this.


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Digital Physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics) might somehow tie in with all of this



In physics and cosmology, digital physics is a collection of theoretical perspectives based on the premise that the universe is, at heart, describable by information, and is therefore computable. Therefore, according to this theory, the universe can be conceived of as either the output of a deterministic or probabilistic computer program, a vast, digital computation device, or mathematically isomorphic to such a device.

Digital physics is grounded in one or more of the following hypotheses; listed in order of decreasing strength. The universe, or reality:

is essentially informational (although not every informational ontology needs to be digital)

is essentially computable (the pancomputationalist position)
can be described digitally

is in essence digital

is itself a computer (pancomputationalism)

is the output of a simulated reality exercise






I find the title of one of Phillip K Dick's sci-fi novels interesting here as well.VALIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VALIS) - Vast Active Living Intelligent System



VALIS is a 1981 science fiction novel by Philip K. Dick. The title is an acronym for Vast Active Living Intelligence System, Dick's gnostic vision of one aspect of God.


Very interesting topic and lots of food for thought


cheers

araucaria
9th August 2014, 10:24
Erwin Schrodinger was saying a long time ago in What is Life? that the human body has the number of cells it has in order statistically to rule out random catastrophic failures. I guess it is a form of redundancy, whereby backup cells are available to replace any ‘rogue’ cells. Computer codes like checksum are a compressed, economical form of redundancy. Can we say that life imitates computer code and is therefore a form of virtual reality, or isn’t it perhaps the other way round? Which came first, triple redundancy of aircraft components or the millions-of-times redundancy in for example the reproductive systems of many life forms?

The same thing seems to be happening at the level of the species. Perhaps the population explosion is not a bad thing at all but the mechanism whereby humanity can reach a statistically failsafe condition? And meanwhile, the computer explosion would be the mechanism whereby AI can reach statistically failsafe status as a life-form itself. In other words, hardware and wetware are both forms of intelligent life, as different as butterflies and flowers, and the question of which one parented the other is, viewed from here, an insoluble and ultimately uninteresting chicken-an-egg issue.

Agape
9th August 2014, 10:32
A Red Admirable, known chauvinistically as a Red Admiral.
Listening to the radio just now, a listener has requested (and obtained) a miracle: Faurés 'Le Papillon et la fleur' (the butterfly and the flower): the poor earthbound flower needs a pair of wings! See the link below for the poem by Victor Hugo.



Thank you Araucaria . Beautiful song ..

there was a lots of synergy in the event . The chandelier itself looks like the Hunab Ku now or perhaps , like Maltese Cross ;)
It's almost 30 years old now ..we've once got it with mum when her 'Mr Butterfly' took the previous one with him . He was typical example of 'principal humanity' , he took all that he thought he can use ( big boy going to woods ) .
It stayed intact for 20 years despite its obvious frailness - speaking of the chandelier now - looking like 8 petalled flower hanging down , till ..and when I was not here .. mums friend smashed his head against it and two 'glass petals' broke down .

I was in the middle of stress and cleaning and thoughts of number of things at the same time and when the thing slipped from my hand .. I had definitely 'clear light moment' ;) It was just about everything ..

Back to the 'Hunab Ku' , the 'Cosmic Butterfly'

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/gbs_zps470dc488.gif (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/gbs_zps470dc488.gif.html)

It's my impression that the 'cosmic code' may work about that way . Like a butterfly, it's not static , it keeps moving , passing through the cycles of creation in waves ,
it's always present but not in the same way .
It keeps repeating itself and trying to install order but it is not easy to anticipate . Many of the old cultures calendars were believed to represent the 'code' or its reflection .

If there is such a code that can be figured out from within the string theory equations ( for example ) - and it's what I believed we have referred to as 'beautiful maths' earlier in history , a hypothetical presumption that there is hidden pattern , natural symmetry embedded to physical laws and constants and the way they're related .. and once the 'correct version' of maths and physics will be established, or an 'ultimate theory ' it will be like a holistic pattern ..
if there is such a code, it's going to be moving one . If it seems to make an appearance of periodical evolution it may be 'the code' .
If it makes appearance of static system , it's an illusion or a fraction /reflection of it or not .

P.S. The little visitor is here again but it does not want to settle ...


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/IMG_0211_zpsb839d3c4.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/IMG_0211_zpsb839d3c4.jpg.html)

Valle
9th August 2014, 11:02
Thank you for the information!!

Reminded me of a qoute in the book that i have read this summer, VALIS

"Apollonius of Tyana, writing as Hermes Trismegistos, said 'That which is above is that which is below.' By this he meant to tell us that our universe is a hologram, but he lacked the term."

Philip K. Dick

TargeT
9th August 2014, 18:07
apparently these thoughts mirror concepts presented in A Course of miracles (http://www.courseinmiracles.com/); my mom and I were talking in the shade of a rubber tree today discussing this threads topics and she said it is very close to a course on miracles, which apparently is channeled material (and that is probably why I haven't heard of it, I generally stay away from channeled material) but anything that is true and a part of the fractal reality will have repeated patterns in different contexts (like Pocahontas and avatar are the same pattern just expressed in different contexts).

I think this can also help to understand ritual magic, the ritual is just the introduction of a pattern in a context that can be managed, that's why the bigger the ritual the better and the more it can be repeated the best.

13th Warrior
9th August 2014, 19:26
Magick is one way of "hacking the code".

To a Magician, it's just natural...to a laymen; it's magic.

Arak
9th August 2014, 20:18
Magick is one way of "hacking the code".

To a Magician, it's just natural...to a laymen; it's magic.
No, magic is just a advanced user keyboard shortcut.

ponda
10th August 2014, 01:06
Arak said-

No, magic is just a advanced user keyboard shortcut


"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
— Arthur C. Clarke

Carmody
10th August 2014, 15:17
(OBE) = (idclip) (idqd)

As for the self correcting code. it is the idea of interaction vs resonance and polarization (multi axis spin)

It exists due to the sheer mass of what one is attempting to integrate with.

This integration forces a correction upon that which is trying to integrate, as the 'person' is of less mass or connectivity of said larger 'worldly' mass.

Energetic discipline in the area of not interacting allows for an increase in energy differential.

In effect, one separates themselves from the norms, accrues energies ...and then, like a pilot on high (higher position in the sky), has the ability to maneuver in a dogfight from the increased energy.

For a 'time'. When it is expended.... one is in the 'norm' again.

To do the same again...one has to go back to being separate, to accrue energies, again. But what is really going on is that the self is separated and can then 'increase', if you will.

Thus the monk in the cave, the vegetarianism, the breatharianism, and so on. proper foods, proper thoughts, etc. Increase. Accumulation. Intake of the polarization and/or energetic differential. That is what the 'white powder of gold' in it's 'charged' form -- is all about.

Seek detachment.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then the deal with astrology, which tells the tale of the multidimensional fundamentals in polarization differential patterns, how that plays out in the 'world' of 3d-time. Basically, multidimensional magneto-hydrodynamic flow patterns in integrative oscillation with 'reality'. we get to see the residual patterns it creates via the planets and their positions. The 'matter' as we know it, being the 1% junior partner in this 99% plasma aspect of the known universe. The integrational aspects play out in the organizational considerations of the plasma fields, their resonances, and so on.

To clarify, the interstellar plasma is single atom, and low atom count nano-particle distribution, in a stress field (Volt-amp) differential, so quantum function dominates..... and patterns form... which are elastic-resonant and geometric.


The planets bob like apples in the wake of this and also serve as foci points in the patterns. We discern the patterns and call it astrology. Which has 'out of time' aspects, obviously. Which is why astrology is so accurate and predictive, statistically speaking. Exactly like that of quantum function. Astrology and quantum predictive statistical averaging, they are the same.

We, as humans, with our visible light and body as a viewing paltform...see planets and stars and think of this as 'the universe', when in fact, it is the 1% junior partner, the other 99% dominates - absolutely.


3d-timespace, as we know it, is a specific localized awareness bubble resonance zone. Nothing more.

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000Hvl2CKzVj8k/s/700/sg14-10236.jpg

EC1000
11th August 2014, 14:55
I think the master yogis can manipulate "form" in this "reality" by using detached intention-which for me, personally is really tough.

"magicians" do it with "spells/ rituals" which just work with the vibrations or frequencies of this "reality" which is based all on vibration just as electricity is vibration and electricity is present everywhere in the universe. Especially in the 99% we can’t see Carmody talks about above. Under magnification 99% of our bodies are also unseen or empty space. Hmmm...wonder if there is a connection there? :)

ps I'm not sure why I quoted reality above. Either everything is real or everything isn't. Even the matrix can be real (even though it may not be) as we are all experiencing it, even if we are experiencing it in different ways.

anyway, groovy thread

TargeT
13th August 2014, 17:35
Debunking Scientific-Materialism: Do We Live In a Purely Material Reality?
We're told we live in a purely material world, but that's purely wrong
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TargeT
26th August 2014, 20:39
Holographic universe experiment begins
The Holometer experiment will test whether our universe is coded into 2-D packets many trillion times smaller than an atom.
http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/sites/default/files/styles/lead_image/public/images/standard/holometer-s_0.jpg
A unique experiment at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory has started collecting data that will answer some mind-bending questions about our universe—including whether we live in a hologram.

Much like characters on a television show would not know that their seemingly 3-D world exists only on a 2-D screen, we could be clueless that our 3-D space is just an illusion. The information about everything in our universe could actually be encoded in tiny packets in two dimensions.

Get close enough to your TV screen and you’ll see pixels, small points of data that make a seamless image if you stand back. Scientists think that the universe’s information may be contained in the same way and that the natural “pixel size” of space is roughly 10 trillion trillion times smaller than an atom, a distance that physicists refer to as the Planck scale.

“We want to find out whether space-time is a quantum system just like matter is,” says Craig Hogan, director of Fermilab’s Center for Particle Astrophysics and the developer of the holographic noise theory. “If we see something, it will completely change ideas about space we’ve used for thousands of years.”

Quantum theory suggests that it is impossible to know both the exact location and the exact speed of subatomic particles. If space comes in 2-D bits with limited information about the precise location of objects, then space itself would fall under the same theory of uncertainty. The same way that matter continues to jiggle (as quantum waves) even when cooled to absolute zero, this digitized space should have built-in vibrations even in its lowest energy state.

Essentially, the experiment probes the limits of the universe’s ability to store information. If there is a set number of bits that tell you where something is, it eventually becomes impossible to find more specific information about the location—even in principle. The instrument testing these limits is Fermilab’s Holometer, or holographic interferometer, the most sensitive device ever created to measure the quantum jitter of space itself.

Now operating at full power, the Holometer uses a pair of interferometers placed close to one another. Each one sends a 1-kilowatt laser beam (the equivalent of 200,000 laser pointers) at a beam splitter and down two perpendicular 40-meter arms. The light is then reflected back to the beam splitter where the two beams recombine, creating fluctuations in brightness if there is motion. Researchers analyze these fluctuations in the returning light to see if the beam splitter is moving in a certain way, being carried along on a jitter of space itself.

“Holographic noise” is expected to be present at all frequencies, but the scientists’ challenge is not to be fooled by other sources of vibrations. The Holometer is testing a frequency so high—millions of cycles per second—that motions of normal matter are not likely to cause problems. Rather, the dominant background noise is more often due to radio waves emitted by nearby electronics. The Holometer experiment is designed to identify and eliminate noise from such conventional sources.

“If we find a noise we can’t get rid of, we might be detecting something fundamental about nature—a noise that is intrinsic to space-time,” says Fermilab physicist Aaron Chou, lead scientist and project manager for the Holometer. “It’s an exciting moment for physics. A positive result will open a whole new avenue of questioning about how space works.”

The Holometer experiment, funded by the US Department of Energy Office of Science and other sources, is expected to gather data over the coming year.

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/august-2013/holographic-universe-experiment-begins

Sean
27th August 2014, 01:39
Fascinating stuff here. I don't know if "simulation" is the right concept. Our reality certainly is an illusion, but I'm not sure I buy our universe as a gigantic computer program on some future/alien hard drive. What IS most interesting to me is, like all computer programs, this program/reality can be reprogrammed, altered, bent to our individual and collective will..if only we can fully understand the code itself. Think of it: if we fully understood the code of the universe, we'd unlock all secrets of space/time. We'd eventually be able to travel throughout this universe/multiverse with a thought, not a ship. This man here has made the most important scientific discovery in this planet's history.

I'm not sure we're fully understanding the magnitude of this. this is the kind of discovery an advanced alien civilization would make. The fact that such a breakthrough would happen on Earth..I'm starting to truly believe the "Marciniak/Pleaidian" idea of earth as a waypoint/living library.

TargeT
27th August 2014, 13:39
Fascinating stuff here. I don't know if "simulation" is the right concept. Our reality certainly is an illusion, but I'm not sure I buy our universe as a gigantic computer program on some future/alien hard drive. What IS most interesting to me is, like all computer programs, this program/reality can be reprogrammed, altered, bent to our individual and collective will..if only we can fully understand the code itself. Think of it: if we fully understood the code of the universe, we'd unlock all secrets of space/time. We'd eventually be able to travel throughout this universe/multiverse with a thought, not a ship. This man here has made the most important scientific discovery in this planet's history.

I'm not sure we're fully understanding the magnitude of this. this is the kind of discovery an advanced alien civilization would make. The fact that such a breakthrough would happen on Earth..I'm starting to truly believe the "Marciniak/Pleaidian" idea of earth as a waypoint/living library.

It seems to be an analogy, not really a direct description; comparing it to a computer makes the concept easier to grasp.


anyway, your right, the point is that once we completely understand the information we will be able to leverage it to our advantage.

Ahnung-quay
1st September 2014, 16:08
The number nine and the base ten system have something to do with the code as evidenced by all of the synchronicities with the digital root numbers and the matrix numbers. The ancients seem to have been aware of the code and how to work inside of the matrix to their own advantage. The elites have at least some of this knowledge today as evidenced by their use of the seven, the nine and the eleven in planning events by the calender for us...

This is a long but, interesting page.

The Number 9 is Everywhere In Plain Sight!

The number 9 is the last number in a base 10 system which is the last and limit of all that is. Nine is a number which has many interesting qualities that other numbers do not have and has been used to hold a hidden code that affects every person on earth. If you think nine is just another number, you are in for a big surprise. The number 9 is very interesting and suspect looking like an upside down 6. Even more interesting, there is something about it that most people and scientists don't know. As you will soon discover, there is a hidden code that reveals the greatest truth of all and it is encoded into the construction of our universe and affects our lives called the 9 code which many times appears as 911. If you are ready for the truth and willing to go down the rabbits hole understand just one thing Mr. Anderson. You can take the blue pill or the red pill but choose wisely because once you've made your decision and get this knowledge, there is no turning back.

Read more:

http://rickzepeda.hubpages.com/hub/Number-9#

Ahnung-quay
1st September 2014, 16:16
I also believe that the digital roots are encoded into the binary system but, I don't know exactly how it fits. The I Ching can be reduced to binary as a calender; that much I do know. I'm working on so many different things regarding the matrix that I haven't had time to go into it more fully.

One of the things that I noticed is that the zodiac of constellations also encodes the nine and the six. The clue that it does is the glyph for the constellation of the Crab; the nine and the six turned on its side.

If anyone has done research into the binary system and its application to the matrix, I would be interested!

TargeT
10th September 2014, 14:47
I think binary is very likely, but the trinity seems important too; the strongest forces in nature come in an inseparable grouping of 3.. we have a Strong force (magnetism) and a weak force (gravity) and "dielectricity" (aka electricity); though maybe those forces aren't as simple as I think and they can be further broken down..



I had a thought yesterday:

I think the archons (or what ever you choose to label it,) have effected change in the game, they have directed us by subtle influence to make decisions that are not in our own interest, like restricting ourselves from the various psychoactive substances that are produced naturally, which is very possibly the same substances that prompted the massive explosion in human innovation and brain growth; perhaps this is a stalling tactic to keep us at a stage that we are easy to manipulate, feed off of, or what ever is actually going on.

donk
10th September 2014, 15:22
I think binary is very likely, but the trinity seems important too;


I think binary is a trinity...0 isn't really nothing, it's a thing--it's just one just different than the other one. So you have ones, zeros, and whatever the ones and zeroes exist within.

Neal Donald Walsch describes it welll in "Conversation with God", talking about relativity/relationship: something like you have here, there, and what's in between...you have this and that and the space that seperates them.

You can't really have binary (2 things) without also a "matrix" for them to exist within...making it a trinity, right?

TargeT
10th September 2014, 15:35
I think binary is very likely, but the trinity seems important too;


I think binary is a trinity...0 isn't really nothing, it's a thing--it's just one just different than the other one. So you have ones, zeros, and whatever the ones and zeroes exist within.

Neal Donald Walsch describes it welll in "Conversation with God", talking about relativity/relationship: something like you have here, there, and what's in between...you have this and that and the space that seperates them.

You can't really have binary (2 things) without also a "matrix" for them to exist within...making it a trinity, right?

Great explanation, that makes a lot of sense and ties the theory together a bit more.

TargeT
11th September 2014, 20:33
I was watchinig this video (for probably the 31st time.. haha) and it's indirectly very very supportive of the ideas expressed in this thread.

If you haven't seen me suggest this one before, it's definitely one of my favorite youtube videos.
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Camilo
11th September 2014, 22:21
Y'all gonna laugh, when ya find out who we really are,

:wizard:and the game we play with... ourselves. ccc.:wizard:

I'm already laughing!......it's another cosmic joke!

Ara
17th November 2014, 07:48
Computer Code Discovered In Superstring Equations
Published on May 31, 2012
S. James Gates is Toll Professor of Physics and Director of the Center for String and Particle Theory at the University of Maryland in College Park. He serves on President Obama's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4NkItgf0E


This is a longer interview - it is extremely interesting.

http://onbeing.org/program/uncoverin...s-reality/1457


"S. JAMES GATES JR.
is Toll Professor of Physics and Director of the Center for String and Particle Theory at the University of Maryland in College Park. He serves on President Obama's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

One of the things James Gates and some of his colleagues have “seen,” for example, are underlying codes embedded in the cosmos — error-correcting codes, like those that drive computer programs. (Full disclosure: he’s a fan of The Matrix — so am I — and we hear a little bit of that iconic movie in our one-hour podcast.) This is just one of many observations he makes that raises questions, he says, that physics alone can neither answer nor probe.

He is also working on an interesting frontier of expanding science’s own imagination about mathematical equations in describing reality. He and his colleagues have recently employed something called adinkras, visual symbols that may be able to unlock truths that equations alone cannot capture, just as there are truths that only poetry can convey."

ponda
17th November 2014, 09:37
Ara said

He is also working on an interesting frontier of expanding science’s own imagination about mathematical equations in describing reality. He and his colleagues have recently employed something called adinkras, visual symbols that may be able to unlock truths that equations alone cannot capture, just as there are truths that only poetry can convey."

Yes very interesting stuff Ara.

Here are some of those symbols and adinkras from this article (http://www.onbeing.org/program/uncovering-codes-reality/feature/symbols-power-adinkras-and-nature-reality/1460).(Symbols of power - Adinkras and the nature of reality)


http://www.onbeing.org/sites/onbeing.org/files/migrate/programs/2012/codes-for-reality/images/adinkras1.jpg


http://www.onbeing.org/sites/onbeing.org/files/migrate/programs/2012/codes-for-reality/images/multi-adinkras.jpg


http://www.onbeing.org/sites/onbeing.org/files/migrate/programs/2012/codes-for-reality/images/adinkras-in-adinkras.jpg

http://www.onbeing.org/sites/onbeing.org/files/migrate/programs/2012/codes-for-reality/images/coded-adinkras.jpg

Hervé
17th November 2014, 13:55
Computer Code Discovered In Superstring Equations
Published on May 31, 2012
S. James Gates is Toll Professor of Physics and Director of the Center for String and Particle Theory at the University of Maryland in College Park. He serves on President Obama's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

Hi Ara,

I merged your new thread with a pre-existing one at the request of the pre-existing OP (Opening Poster).

Thank you for your understanding.

Hervé

Ara
18th November 2014, 06:06
Computer Code Discovered In Superstring Equations
Published on May 31, 2012
S. James Gates is Toll Professor of Physics and Director of the Center for String and Particle Theory at the University of Maryland in College Park. He serves on President Obama's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

Hi Ara,

I merged your new thread with a pre-existing one at the request of the pre-existing OP (Opening Poster).

Thank you for your understanding.

Hervé

Hi Herve

Thanks! What a wonderful thread of information. :)

Ponda, thank you for posting pictures of Adinkras - they remind me of computer icons - 'press this icon and begin this programme'. :)

belljoshua565
22nd November 2014, 22:24
Operator
why should computer code reflecta model of real life in order to 'work'??

belljoshua565
22nd November 2014, 23:17
where do yu get iboga?

TargeT
23rd November 2014, 01:48
Operator
why should computer code reflecta model of real life in order to 'work'??

Well if you understand the fractal nature of reality (or perhaps its just this "simulation"?) there is no way that the code and reality would not reflect EACH OTHER. You can call it "fractal" or "Holographic" but either way the out come is the same:
The small will include the large, ie: patterns are repeated, and at all levels and all things and all contexts, this is why we see a resurgence of holistic ancient knowledge in todays technologically advanced world; once the pattern is recognized (regardless of the method of recognition) it is applicable to everything (given that it is accurate).


where do yu get iboga?

Legally? Mexico.

Otherwise, google is your friend :)

iotaherculis
11th January 2015, 19:40
Lets imagine we are in a "Virtual Reality" that is a Multiverse.
The question we must ask is why would we be in a virtual reality?
What logic did the programmers use to create it?
Was this multiverse meant to be a test of some kind?
What would the Programmers be testing looking for?

For this I present 1 question:
If there was a man, and he knew how to move faster than light, he would catch all iterations of himself in all dimensions/multiverses. At this point, all iterations looked at each other and made the same decision. What would happen?
(at the speed of light normally all iterations would make different choices)

Sorry if this is kind of confusing, SuSy is kind of complex (but simple).

TargeT
23rd September 2015, 20:08
This is a great addition to this discussion...

Strange mathematical formula appear to be embedded everywhere we look:
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TargeT
29th September 2015, 21:21
Life and death, a very binary topic.

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Selene
29th September 2015, 23:30
Oh geez - where has this wonderful YouTuber been all my life.... :sun:


This is a great addition to this discussion...

Strange mathematical formula appear to be embedded everywhere we look:
fCn8zs912OE

Wonderful!

Cheers,

Selene

Daozen
30th September 2015, 01:13
Another thread hitting on the Topic of Topics.

TargeT
30th September 2015, 17:02
Oh geez - where has this wonderful YouTuber been all my life.... :sun:
Selene

Prepare for countless amazing videos, Michael does an amazing job, and he's only 28... he has some great Ted talks as well.



Another thread hitting on the Topic of Topics.

I thought that was the Mind Flyers ? ("Their mind" or "wetiko" or "Archons" or any of the other named facets of that phenomenon).

Selkie
30th September 2015, 17:09
Another thread hitting on the Topic of Topics.

I thought that was the Mind Flyers ? ("Their mind" or "wetiko" or "Archons" or any of the other named facets of that phenomenon).

Yeah...as far as I know (which isn't much, :silent:) the topic of topics is predation.

Inversion
11th September 2025, 02:01
Danny Goler is on the Danny Jones show (https://www.youtube.com/@dannyjones/videos) talking about a DMT (https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Dimethyltryptamine) experiment. While on that drug and shinning a red laser he and other could see code. One description was of Katakana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana) characters like those depicted in the green Matrix code.

Google AI

The Matrix code and Japanese language
Backwards katakana: The green digital rain seen throughout The Matrix is based on reversed half-width katakana characters, a syllabary used in Japanese writing.

Matrix digital rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J761xGw9C4U).

This is the 2:43:02 video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJp2rASRKMc) version I haven't gone through.

11/25/24 (11:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FotuAE-e1JI

seekingtruth
11th September 2025, 10:55
Danny Goler is on the Danny Jones show (https://www.youtube.com/@dannyjones/videos) talking about a DMT (https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Dimethyltryptamine) experiment. While on that drug and shinning a red laser he and other could see code. One description was of Katakana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana) characters like those depicted in the green Matrix code.

Google AI

The Matrix code and Japanese language
Backwards katakana: The green digital rain seen throughout The Matrix is based on reversed half-width katakana characters, a syllabary used in Japanese writing.

Matrix digital rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J761xGw9C4U).

This is the 2:43:02 video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJp2rASRKMc) version I haven't gone through.

11/25/24 (11:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FotuAE-e1JI

First thing I thought of too.

Also this - "Scientists Can’t Explain What AI Just Found Hidden in the Shroud of Turin!"

_AwISHHiNAM

Perfect quote from the comments:

"Mathematics is the Language with which God wrote the universe." Galileo Galilei