Ascension - a few questions (?)

[doetem]

So, I've been doing some of my own research aside from viewing Avalon threads
And I've come across many videos speaking on Earth (and humanity?) ascending.

I just wanted to understand what there was to understand on this topic. Correct me where I'm wrong.

We are being prepared to ascend into a higher consciousness as a mass, correct? Or maybe it would be better to say that as individuals we are being prepared for this awakening. Does anyone have any leads as to how this is going to happen? I know one's own awakening is a gradual process but what happens when it's time? What happens to those who haven't bothered to reach this point?

I guess the question more to my interest is: how do we know if we've reached the enlightenment that's required?

[Omni]

It is my belief that we do not magically gain spiritual intelligence in some mass awakening. The biggest thing of that kind IMO is global first contact when very advanced ETs, masters really, can speak their mind's and enlighten humanity with their knowledge/wisdom.

Ascension is largely an idea because of channeling. And channeling in my opinion is largely psy ops.

You will find many who disagree with me on this(and rate my threads one star lol), but I do not believe in densities either. I haven't even looked into it at all really and already found a gaping hole in the densities explanations. Supposedly 4d is all natural telepathy. I'm not sure how 4d happens but I imagine they say it's some kind of mass shift in humanity. Everyone on earth suddenly going telepathic seems like a pretty ridiculous thought... Granted these are just my own views from my own learning experience(s).

I think ascension in reality is much slower. It's not some instantaneous magical event that transpires on planets without any work IMO.

Ascension obtained by not actually being worthy of such and not achieving such by working on it(whether consciously or just by the mechanics they are attached to), is not likely by my estimations.

I'll try to sum up ascension in 2 words: Soulular growth.

Soulular growth is ascension. The real kind that you can taste, touch smell etc. The kind that doesn't require a certain level of faith(as there is no real verifiable science behind ascension claims from what I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong there) ... I guess you could claim a theory that the galactic center has some sort of ascension mechanic, and that is science. But I have studied that idea and do not find it practical without a God behind it controlling the ascensions... As I do not believe in a conscious being that is a god.. I just do not find it practical...

Also evolution of genetics is ascension for a race. A meat a potatoes type of ascension... As time goes on genetics become more spiritual by my estimations. A lot of problems with humanity can be tied to genetics.

So the 2 biggest factors for ascension in my view are:

Soulular Growth
Genetic Evolution

I may add more upon thinking about this more....

Soulular Growth: I theorize by learning more and gaining wisdom in life, your soul grows wiser(a very slow process compared to ones intelligence getting wiser in life). It is also tangible ascension in a lifetime. Ones accumulation of knowledge and wisdom. These are the type of ascensions I believe in.. Not the fairy tale type. I could be wrong. Maybe one day I'll wake up and everyone else will be telepathic too. lol :peep:

[Yetti]

Good news for you. If you are digging into the subject is because you are already waking up.
The thing goes on at an individual level but affects the whole planet ( every single one of us) , is like: Do your own ascension ,your vibrations will help others and your fisical reality that surround you as the law of attraction works for everyone no mater what.
Do not forge ,positive love vibrations are hi freqs and a cohercitive force, negative thoughs and vibes are disruptive by escence and very low freq, so Both cannot coexist in a same plane, dimension or reality if you want to call it. I can't put it in a better way I hope you can get the idea . I'm investigating all the metaphysical subject for about 42 yrs now and I can tell you WE ARE INMORTAL SOULS LIVING A HUMAN EXPERIENCE, take this to begin to chew your life from now on and you will see everything with a totally different way, your way , so you are the center of your reality, ( do not confuse with EGO). Namaste YETTI

[chocolate]

Greetings, doetem!

I will address my reply to you since you are asking the question. But anyone is welcome to take whatever resonates with them.

I am guessing since you are a young individual long spiritual explanations would seem a bit boring and a bit difficult, so I will try to express myself simply. But in case you are up to a longer exploration, I can kindly refer to TraineeHuman and his thread about Out of Body experiences and the higher soul/mind/self. Here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52121-OBEs-What-are-they-how-to-make-them-happen-and-where-does-the-Higher-Self-fit-in&p=585017&viewfull=1#post585017) and in particular may be here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52121-OBEs-What-are-they-how-to-make-them-happen-and-where-does-the-Higher-Self-fit-in&p=850216&viewfull=1#post850216).

If for a moment you could forget that which you already know about humanity/earth ascending, you can think about it positioning yourself at the center of your question. If you understand how this would work for you personally, you can later on apply with a bit of logic the same principal when thinking about humanity, and about the earth as a whole.

As above so below, and as below so above, right? :)

What this means about the single individual is a process of evolving. Here one needs to educate oneself about the extend of what a single individual is comprised of, what kinds of layers exist about every one of us. There is the physical, mental, emotional, 'spiritual', subtle, etc. You may have heard of those terms. If not, you can research them. I myself found the book from Max Heindel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Heindel) very helpful in explaining the invisible layers of human and Earth life.
The Rosicrucian Mysteries An Elementary Exposition of Their Secret Teachings (http://www.amazon.com/Rosicrucian-Mysteries-Elementary-Exposition-Teachings-ebook/dp/B004TQIHF6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407661176&sr=8-1&keywords=max+heindel)

Don't get scared by the name, nothing conspiratorial there. And the book can be found free of charge, on amazon and elsewhere. I can attest that it is easy to read, and very informative. You can find more from this author on the same subject(s), also freely available, too.

So, if you can imagine yourself progressing in all of the described areas, than you will be walking the path of evolving, enlightenment/ ascension. And since every person is connected to everyone else, and to the Earth on ALL of those layers, that means that this is a process of walking together on this path. Have you heard of Indra's Net (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra's_net)? It is a simple story that goes pretty much like that:



"Far away in the heavenly abode of the great god Indra, there is a wonderful net which has been hung by some cunning artificer in such a manner that it stretches out infinitely in all directions. In accordance with the extravagant tastes of deities, the artificer has hung a single glittering jewel in each "eye" of the net, and since the net itself is infinite in dimension, the jewels are infinite in number. There hang the jewels, glittering "like" stars in the first magnitude, a wonderful sight to behold. If we now arbitrarily select one of these jewels for inspection and look closely at it, we will discover that in its polished surface there are reflected all the other jewels in the net, infinite in number. Not only that, but each of the jewels reflected in this one jewel is also reflecting all the other jewels, so that there is an infinite reflecting process occurring."


Each pearl or eye here represents one point of view to life, in the web of creation and life.

We all walk the path together. When you are happy, fulfilled, gaining knowledge and transmuting it into wisdom, creating better relationships, environment, homes, family and so on, you are ascending. And all of us together with you. Imagine yourself being the earth and the universe, and than imaging yourself becoming better on some of the levels, starting with the physical. Since everything is connected, that will advance you in ascending on all other more invisible layers.

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I hope that was helpful to you!

[Skyhaven]

There are many paths to the same place. It's all a game between the positive and negative polarities. Some even leap from the most dark, depressing states of being into the brightest light. In fact I believe we need to experience the extremes of one polarity to experience the other more fully.

I think ascension is not a certain fixed state to be reached. It has been going on forever, and always will.

[betoobig]

It is a done deal... Love to all
Thanks for sharing yourselfs....
Enjoy the crussing

[doetem]

Thank you all !!!

[Mu2143]

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[Anchor]

(You said correct me if I am wrong, but I cant do that, because I dont know if you are wrong or right, all of my opinion below is just that and your mileage may vary!)


We are being prepared to ascend into a higher consciousness as a mass, correct?

Can't say correct or incorrect.

The environment we are currently experience gives many opportunities to ascend as you say. The planet has now completed its ascension (seen as a density shift) and 3rd density life on Earth is now on the wane as the Earth moves more fully into the new light she experiences. In up to a couple of hundred years 3rd density life will be all gone as she wont support it. Most of the incoming human life now possesses dual density bodies which express consciousness at the appropriate level for ongoing life. Since there is still a lot of dark (love challenged!) 3rd density consciousness at play in the world this gives some of the new comers a pretty hard time.


Or maybe it would be better to say that as individuals we are being prepared for this awakening.

Insofar as the opportunities exist on a large scale, then shifts in consciousness are naturally catalysed to the same scale. If you see this as "preparation" as in some kind of grand plan, then I think its basically a yes.


Does anyone have any leads as to how this is going to happen?

Yes - its down to each individual and how they respond to the "catalysts" they face in their "chosen" lives/incarnations.


I know one's own awakening is a gradual process but what happens when it's time?

You just know. Seriously everything just clicks.


What happens to those who haven't bothered to reach this point?

Spiritually nothing much. Opportunities missed.

Physically... the usual...

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;


I guess the question more to my interest is: how do we know if we've reached the enlightenment that's required?

I don't know if this actually matters, but if it does, I don't know the answer!

You didn't ask for any hints on what to do but I got a one word one anyway: MEDITATE.

Similar to what mu2143 said, the keys to unlock all this in your mind is in your silence.

[WhiteFeather]

I believe Earth/Gaia is shifting consciousness herself as she is an organism, and if we don't adapt to her, well we won't adapt to her, thus meaning some will move forward with Gaia's Energy whilst others will fall behind, but some day will catch up to her eventually when they are ready.

[Mu2143]

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[Hogswitch]

So called "Ascension" is a pile of horse pooh fed to the gullible to distract them from what's actually going on around them. Seriously the earth and all the "spiritually advanced" souls are going to float away in a bubble of positivity any time now? Nah, it's bollocks man. Do yourself a favour forget you ever heard the word "Ascension".

[Anchor]

How did you get to this conclusion?

I was rather careful to be inconclusive actually. It is my opinion, and that opinion is based on things I have learned and backed up by personal experiences and opportunities to discern some things which I consider truths, none of which I can use to convince anyone of anything.


And I know how much time I have to prepare my self for
what is coming and is lot closer 0 then is to 100 years

Please note I was talking about the planet, not those alive on it.

Time is an illusion in spirit. In our incarnate forms, opportunity knocks in the present.

So, I think we agree, no time like the present!

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So called "Ascension" is a pile of horse pooh fed to the gullible to distract them from what's actually going on around them. Seriously the earth and all the "spiritually advanced" souls are going to float away in a bubble of positivity any time now? Nah, it's bollocks man. Do yourself a favour forget you ever heard the word "Ascension".

What is going on around you is also a distraction of sorts.

I think there is a balance to be struck between the inner reality and the outer reality.

It is impractical to go all out and focus totally on either one or the other.

[Hogswitch]

I think there is a balance to be struck between the inner reality and the outer reality.

It is impractical to go all out and focus totally on either one or the other.

Honestly I don't think any of the vast amount of garbage talked about "Ascension" comes from anywhere other than the outer reality. It's a man made concept originating from a few dodgy channellers, propagated by a few dodgy teachers and parroted mindlessly by a throng of good intentioned but hopelessly mislead sheep.

Hog.

[Mu2143]

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[Pam]

So, I've been doing some of my own research aside from viewing Avalon threads
And I've come across many videos speaking on Earth (and humanity?) ascending.

I just wanted to understand what there was to understand on this topic. Correct me where I'm wrong.

We are being prepared to ascend into a higher consciousness as a mass, correct? Or maybe it would be better to say that as individuals we are being prepared for this awakening. Does anyone have any leads as to how this is going to happen? I know one's own awakening is a gradual process but what happens when it's time? What happens to those who haven't bothered to reach this point?

I guess the question more to my interest is: how do we know if we've reached the enlightenment that's required?


I think there are a lot of interpretations of ascension. I am addressing the concept where 3d earthlings ascend to a higher dimension leaving behind this material, polarized state of this existence. It seems to me very similar to the Christian idea of the second coming when Christians will be swept up into the sky to heaven. Those chosen in both scenarios are ones who have achieved a certain level that make them acceptable to advance. The christians need faith and the ascentioners need a level of spiritual purity.

The whole thing does not make sense to me. Thus far, our spiritual advancement has occurred through our experiencing and responding to the environment that we are in. We can move along the spectrum of "service to self" to "service to others" in which ever direction we choose. We can create our frequency of consciousness in how we respond to the world and through the choices we make. If we are to ascend in the blink of an eye , due to an arbitrary cut off line determined by??, all of that is thrown out the window. The chosen get a free advance to the next level. Intuitively, I don't think it fits with the rest of creation that I have observed. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind being snapped up into some kind of utopia but I just don't see it happening.

Now the Earth on the other hand may be a different story. There is no doubt in my mind that the Earth is evolving. The Schumann resonance changes are a case in point. I believe those changes have to effect all living things but I don't think these changes will manifest a dramatic ascension. It seems the changes will occur over time. Well, that my 2 cents on the topic.



Pam

[Mu2143]

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