Such sad news... Robin Williams has died at 63

[AriG]

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/comedy-legend-robin-williams-found-dead-63-n178176

[Kez]

I just heard that too, he was a child hood favourite of mine, RIP Sir.

[Robin]

This has brought great sadness to my heart, for Robin Williams has had a large influence on my life.

He was one of the many reasons that I have given myself the name 'Robin,' which I plan to change my birth-name to legally as soon as possible.

He was never a role-model to me when it came to his life, as he has been involved in some deplorable situations. But looking beyond his "mistakes," his soul resonated with me on such a profound level. Inside this man I felt a feeling of beautiful art trapped inside a physical body, which was his only limitation. I felt that he had a feeling of profound empathy for people he has encountered, and this is reflected in the films that he had a role in.

Some of my favorite films that have left a deep, emotional impact on me have been ones with Robin Williams as a lead actor. Some of these films include: Bicentennial Man, Good Will Hunting, Patch Adams, and Hook. I feel that these films specifically embody his true persona that was masked by his comedic, silly other half.

His "silly other half" was the side of him that he felt a need to project to the outside world, to cover up what he felt on the inside. As somebody who has struggled with depression my whole life, I can most certainly relate to his empathetic burden.

Again, this brings great sadness to me.

[Roisin]

My sister and her family lived in Tiburon, CA for many years and it is without question one of the most beautiful spots to live on the planet. To think someone would end their life in such a paradise like that boggles the mind but that, in this case, it's one of my favorite actors who brought so much joy to the world where ever he went.... well, this is so sad. R.I.P Robin Williams, you will be missed.

[giovonni]

"You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it."

Robin Williams


PS

back in the days ...

Robin Williams Crazy First Appearance on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr1DSLoHni0

[Robin]

If somebody who projects themselves as the personification of satire, comedy, optimism, and empathy (at least in their films) lives a depressed life, then you know that something is seriously wrong with this planet. Alas! may the warm-hearted and empathetic perish and the indifferent, ignorant, apathetic linger. What a world we live in. :(

[AriG]

My favorite RW movie was "The World According to Garp". I felt that it demonstrated his ability for comedy and serious drama simultaneously and was as tragic as he. What a loss.

" Watch out for the under toad! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBGrTbbV_aQ

[EC1000]

RIP, Robin. I used to love mork and mindy when i was a kid. He did many great things and brought smiles to millions.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Great man.. did great things, he helped my friend Eddy Izzard when he decided to hit the states. Robin totally took care of him by meeting him at the airport and getting him all the line up gigs to set him on his way.

Although he did have a sneaky side that us entertainers know about and this info isn't really known. He would go into comedy festivals around the world in disguise and he'd steal material.. many comedians when spotting him in a venue would warn the others and they'd all sigh meaning they couldn't use new material.

But his heart was good and if it wasn't for fame I think he would of been a much better entertainer. Sometimes the pressure is far too high for a comic at that level. He pulled it off though and I'll seriously miss him. He had a great way with people and a genuine kindness and was very understanding. But most important is that he made people laugh in a variety of ways. Very gifted in that respect.

Hope you are at peace now and can move on to your next experience.

[LivioRazlo]

I always have loved Robin Williams - especially movies like Hook, Jumanji and Mrs. Doubtfire. The latter I loved the most because it showed not all divorces have to be a bad thing for the children. RIP my friend.

[Fellow Aspirant]

I loved his positive energy (he wasn't always being positive, but ...) He took the improv genius of Jonathan Winters and ran with it in his own wild way, eventually far surpassing his inspiration.

One of his more obscure films was "The Fisher King", one I highly recommend if you like to be awash in artfully crafted metaphor. Arthurian, Christian and Alchemical symbolism surge across the screen. The restaurant scene, where he (as a Mercury character) eventually accomplishes his goal of uniting the opposites, amid a setting of rich golds and reds, is stunning.

I miss him already.

B.

[GoodETxSG]

My Wife and I were shocked and saddened...

Nanoo... Nanoo... My Friend.

He was so full of life and always brought a laugh to my day. He was a Deep guy and I guess his pain ran deep as well. He will be missed by so many. It is still hard to believe.

[truth4me]

Yes it is sad and more will come out about his death. I was shocked when I read that he, Robin Williams, and Robert DeNiro were with John Belushi a few hours before he died......

[Zaya]

This news has made me so so sad today. I can't even find the right words to express it, but samwise, you said it better:


His "silly other half" was the side of him that he felt a need to project to the outside world, to cover up what he felt on the inside. As somebody who has struggled with depression my whole life, I can most certainly relate to his empathetic burden.

Me too, friend, me too. It hits me right in the gut.

[giovonni]

his last photo ...

making a monkey smile ...

how befitting ... :)


3 weeks ago
Happy Birthday to me! A visit from one of my favorite leading ladies, Crystal.

http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10570189_1484822441759544_1162837298_n.jpg

[Natalia]

oh no :( *tears*

he was one of my fave actors, touched many people's lives with his heart and soul touching films.

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Bless you Robin Williams, you made a difference to many people's lives

[gripreaper]

The best movie Robin William's ever did, in my opinion, was "What Dreams May Come", which is in my all time favorite top ten of all the movies I've ever seen... If you have not seen it, it may shed some light on what he was going through. (Good Will Hunting was excellent too)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDltAArbfFk

Remember, we are immortal souls and we transition. That's all. What we choose to believe and what we choose to feel are but a part of who we are.

I would venture to guess, if I was to look through all of my past lives, there would be a life where I ended it myself. When the lower three terrestrial chakras are all fully and intensely polarized, that is more than anyone can take.

RIP Robin, go gently into the night...

[Natalia]

If somebody who projects themselves as the personification of satire, comedy, optimism, and empathy (at least in their films) lives a depressed life, then you know that something is seriously wrong with this planet. Alas! may the warm-hearted and empathetic perish and the indifferent, ignorant, apathetic linger. What a world we live in. :(

Sad thing is, if he had expressed that side of himself more, more people would have been disappointed in him (which might have made him feel even more alone). I wouldn't, I would still see him as a beautiful soul. No one needs to be happy all the time around me for me to deeply value them.

[Carmody]

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[jagman]

Robin was such a good performer! One of my favorite movies was the 2002 Insomnia.
If you have not seen it? I highly recommend it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_mETVsCac&feature=player_detailpage

[Robin]

This video puts a smile on my face...:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GorgFtCqPEs

[Debra]

While alive, he certainly seized the day. Peace be with you Sir and love goes out to your family.

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[Natalia]

Robin Williams was a mixed person, the happiness, laughter, humour, kindness, the depression, loneliness and empathy - it was all real (edit, not meaning that he did not where a mask sometimes, just that he experience it all).

Many people who experience depression hide it sometimes, or as much as they can...because we don't want to effect others negatively, or to feel even more alone and misunderstood, ourselves...so it's true that we can't show it to everyone, but most of us hopefully have someone to turn to if we need it...I made a big mistake once of not doing this...I have learned that if I ever feel that way again, I will tell someone...

One of my closer friends told me that the reason why she loves to spend time with me is because I am happy, I am a mixed up person, too.

[Robin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyctIk4YwZk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-JUF3xHdbI

[Shezbeth]

Oh Captain my Captain.

[chocolate]

My Wife and I were shocked and saddened...

Nanoo... Nanoo... My Friend.

He was so full of life and always brought a laugh to my day. He was a Deep guy and I guess his pain ran deep as well. He will be missed by so many. It is still hard to believe.

!
People come and people go, and what is left...
I didn't know Robin Williams as a person, but I did know Nanoo a little for a while.

Those of us who make jokes constantly... it takes one to know one.

PS. How many of us remember Nanoo when he was on the forum? ...
How many noticed when he left? and why? ...
I remember I did.
It was the same person, but of course Nanoo was not ' famous' to notice him while he was there.
(forgive me for the harshness, but when I see what is going on sometimes I have my own reaction to it)

It is sad of course, but it is more sad when we don't respect and love the living and think of them when they cross over.

[8Adamas8]

Thanks for all the laughs and beauty you brought to the world Robin.

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[DNA]

I'm hearing folks stating Robin Williams was diagnosed with depression. I wonder if he was taking antidepressants for this?



While antidepressants are designed to decrease the symptoms of depression, they occasionally have the opposite effect and can increase suicidal thoughts and actions.

Folks have been linking antidepressant use among US soldiers returning home and the huge up tick in suicide among those soldiers.

Is there a link with Robin Williams here?

[meeradas]

Damn mofo 'left' before me...
Didn't change anything, though - still loving you, Robin!

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and, how [ambivalently] fitting:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73778

[778 neighbour of some guy]

OI........Orson, oi Orson, oi Orson, oi Orson!!! Guess who's coming home, ADHD!!!

[fifula]

Thank you for every single laugh Robin :(

[Wind]

A truly saddening start for this day when I saw the news about his death. Robin was one of my favorite actors and comedians, he gave us so many laughs and now he has left the earthly stage and finally can be at peace. I could sense and see his sensitivity from his eyes, bless his soul.

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[dim]

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil

William Shakespeare - Hamlet

[Agape]

This video puts a smile on my face...:)



But it also says .. never let the guerrillas tickle you . That's how much things can go down in ones life , lights and shadows ..

Meant as a metaphor of course . Sad news :tea:

[GoodETxSG]

I was making a reference to one of his characters not the former forum member, FYI...

"Nanoo... Nanoo..." was a famous and often quoted line from Robin Williams first TV show "Mork and Mindy". It was the greeting from "His Planet". I believe it was from the late 70's or early 80's (Someone correct me if I am wrong on dates). It was my first introduction to Robin and I followed his career from that point to the end.

From another comment, it is true comedians often come from a world of despair and comedy was their Xanax. I too came from a crazy background and was the family "Monkey Boy" that made people in my family laugh when the pain was the worst. We need more people here bringing joy and laughter to offset the daily pain of the human condition... IMHO.

It is sad that his flame burned bright and burned out so quickly.



My Wife and I were shocked and saddened...

Nanoo... Nanoo... My Friend.

He was so full of life and always brought a laugh to my day. He was a Deep guy and I guess his pain ran deep as well. He will be missed by so many. It is still hard to believe.

!
People come and people go, and what is left...
I didn't know Robin Williams as a person, but I did know Nanoo a little for a while.

Those of us who make jokes constantly... it takes one to know one.

PS. How many of us remember Nanoo when he was on the forum? ...
How many noticed when he left? and why? ...
I remember I did.
It was the same person, but of course Nanoo was not ' famous' to notice him while he was there.
(forgive me for the harshness, but when I see what is going on sometimes I have my own reaction to it)

It is sad of course, but it is more sad when we don't respect and love the living and think of them when they cross over.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Please remember as was mentioned in the more recent PA thread on suicide today, that Aug 11 in the USA was "THe GLorious 12th" in great britain, the day they start shooting/harvesting the wild birds (pheasant grouse ptarmigan), all the "red birds" of the autumn start to be killed this week. it's a symbolic death perhaps.

it brings to mind concerns held by the Quaids, my fixation on the strange death of Hoffman earlier this year,
and who hasn't seen:

http://images.niceartgallery.com/image/data/104/104781.jpg



I loved Robin Williams' films as well, who cares what the other actors said about him, he put 2 + 2 together and made great movies... put energy into impossible roles and made them possible. not many actors tried that hard.


truly a sad morning.

p.s. please say a prayer also for Sage Stallone and Princess Di. it's close to that time. :(

[Jake]

Damn,,, I am shedding tears.. Robin, wherever you are.. It's not your fault.. Peace be with you,,, Jake.

The most epic scene in a Robin Williams movie...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYa6gbDcx18

Jake.

[johnf]

I just saw this just now and cried when I read what his daughter quoted to him last night.

http://news.yahoo.com/robin-williams-daughter-zelda-tweet-115016057.html

Indeed Robin was one of those with some very tragic aspects of his life all along, and especially the way he went out.
However as many of us saw there was a shining soul behind it all, and his daughter's tweet expresses that so well.
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

[Pris]

Oh my gosh... Robin!
Who else here doesn't think it was suicide?

[Wind]

Oh my gosh... Robin!
Who else here doesn't think it was suicide?

I must admit that sometimes when celebrities die in mysterious circumstances I do wonder if they're suicided and perhaps sacrificed. Certainly that's the case sometimes, but also celebrities too are just people and they struggle with their pains and depressions like we do.

[Pris]

Oh my gosh... Robin!
Who else here doesn't think it was suicide?

I must admit that sometimes when celebrities die in mysterious circumstances I do wonder if they're suicided and perhaps sacrificed. Certainly that's the case sometimes, but also celebrities too are just people and they struggle with their pains and depressions like we do.

Yes, indeed. I've just become so distrusting of everything I hear... I can't help but question it.

If he did commit suicide, I wouldn't blame him at all. On top of whatever he may have been going through, this world sucks big time right now.

[jagman]

This is my all time favorite movie of Robin Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0o0sKekpec

[Shezbeth]

Who else here doesn't think it was suicide?

It is far too early to rule out the situation having been other than suicide, I wholeheartedly agree with your thinking on that. A whole lot of royalties and franchise rights just exchanged hands, lest anyone forget. ^_~

[Natalia]

I feel that it was suicide...

[Billy]

Just watching Awakenings.

Rest in peace Robin. And thank you.

[seeker/reader]

Who else here doesn't think it was suicide?

It is far too early to rule out the situation having been other than suicide, I wholeheartedly agree with your thinking on that. A whole lot of royalties and franchise rights just exchanged hands, lest anyone forget. ^_~

I heard a report on MSNBC from the coroner saying it was asphyxiation by hanging.

How very sad. :( I just recently watched him in, The Fisher King. A wonderful movie that highlights his range of talent. There will never be another like him.

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[Roisin]

Tiburon is an unincorporated "village" and a speed trap too and if you want to see how big the police dept. is, just google it up. But here is a fact, small police departments like that have a history of corruption. I find it very suspicious how they seemed to rule, albeit tentatively, R.W.'s death as a suicide so quickly.

[Agape]

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28753326

They write he was 'bipolar' . And then they go in length to explain how more than half of our comedians and artists have abnormal personalities .
I think that this society is abnormal as it stands .

If you go back to so called 'primitive societies' or what remains of the old, aboriginal cultures , most of these modern psychological traumas were unknown to them .
Sure , you may get 3 or 4 insane individuals in every 100 , people who are obviously 'out of the ball' for most of their lives , even they are entitled to life and seldom dangerous . If treated with kindness they too can survive .

But what we get in our civilisation is 'blooming madness' . Depression is something we all experience due to the nature of this world and ways it's treating us .
Getting 'diagnosed' became almost fashionable in Hollywood and certain class of people who hoped at some point that someone will take them more seriously .
What do we get in return then new classes of psycho active substances, given and taken by approval that have so many side effects including 20% increase in suicide rate that they exceed damage done by many street drugs and alcohol together.
Drug and alcohol abuse are called 'serious problem' , these drugs are passed on quietly and without enough warnings.

They make people submissive to extreme , taking lives away .. quietly , without ever treating the cause for no such drug can ever treat the cause of suffering ,
they send people on endless swing of dependance , feelings of inadequacy , highs and lows , away from healthy reasoning and will over ones fate .

It merely makes me ask .. would the same , obviously gifted and intelligent individual with great feeling for others do the same thing if he lived in balanced society ,
one that treats kids like kids and elders like elders, both with respect , society that shares their skills .. instead of placing some sort of superhuman responsibility on one shoulders , and takes away from everyone else ,

...and who knows what all is behind ..

[Natalia]

As selfish at it might sound and be to express it here, I have been crying a lot today, crying right now again...not only did I feel grief for Robin, I felt my own grief, over and over...and what's missing in my life...I know that others did too...

I will never commit suicide, I understand why some do...though I do not support it...

[giovonni]

As selfish at it might sound and be to express it here, I have been crying a lot today, crying right now again...not only did I feel grief for Robin, I felt my own grief, over and over...and what's missing in my life...I know that others did too...

I will never commit suicide, I understand why some do...though I do not support it...

i sense and support what you are sharing here...

In oh so many ways Robin's death represents an accumulative loss and wake up call to us all...

To seemingly on the surface to have had it all - fame, fortune and the supposed respect from his peers ...

In the end he was alone, facing the demons of this false illusion of a world...

If there's anything positive to be garnered from this tragic incident ...

It might be perhaps, for us all not to forget what we came here for ...

And that is to love and respect the gift of life itself.

Bless you and thank you Robin Williams for that poignant reminder.

[Roisin]

There could have been those around him who intentionally engaged in "gas lighting" type maneuvers to drive him toward suicide. This type of gorilla tactic first came into public consciousness in a famous old movie called "Gaslight".
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Gaslight-1944.jpg/220px-Gaslight-1944.jpg

And it's certainly one that we've seen in a lot of espionage movies that came thereafter right up to the present day.

[Frank V]

There could have been those around him who intentionally engaged in "gas lighting" type maneuvers to drive him toward suicide. This type of gorilla tactic first came into public consciousness in a famous old movie called "Gaslight".
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Gaslight-1944.jpg/220px-Gaslight-1944.jpg

And it's certainly one that we've seen in a lot of espionage movies that came thereafter right up to the present day.

But if so, then what would have been the motive?

People do commit suicide, and especially so people with bipolar disorder. I know several bipolar people, and they all play with the idea of ending their lives. Even people who are not bipolar contemplate ending their life from time to time.

In 2007, Brad Delp, lead singer and rhythm guitarist of Boston and RTZ (as well as that he had worked on several other projects), was also going through a severe depression - he was not bipolar though - and chose to asphyxiate himself by way of the exhaust fumes of his car. He was even so considerate as to leave a note with advice for the police officers on how they could avoid the hazardous effects of the vehicle's exhaust gases when recuperating his body. Tom Scholtz, lead guitarist and founder of Boston, wrote on Boston's website "Today, the world has lost the nicest guy in rock & roll."

That said, British singer Amy Winehouse, who was bipolar, also ended her life prematurely after a long struggle with alcohol and drug abuse. Rumor has it that she was killed by the Illuminati over breaking free from them - she actually talked about a producer "who wanted to turn her into a little triangle, and she said 'nooooooo'" in one of her interviews. But did the Illuminati kill her, or did she simply sink too deep to climb back out of the abyss? Same thing for Michael Jackson. The Illuminati tried to control him, and he broke free from them, but did they actually kill him, or was it just an accidental overdose of the painkillers he needed to take?

There are some cases where it is evident that the Illuminati were involved in the death of a celebrity who was trying to resist them, such as Tupac Shakur. However, seeing a conspiracy in everything isn't healthy either. I honestly believe that Robin simply found himself too deep and due to his emotional nature, too vulnerable to climb back out of the abyss on his own account, and that he chose to end his life. It makes perfect sense.

I do respect your opinion, though, and what you say does indeed happen, as I've just come to illustrate. However, in this case, no, I don't think there was any coaxing involved.

[nancyb]

I posted this on another thread and wanted to add it here also ...

Just wondering if anyone else is questioning that it may not have been a suicide? The only reason I say it, is because Robin Williams seemed to be an introspective and sensitive person with three relatively young children whom he seemed to love. It just seems to me that his intellect and soulfulness don't go with suicide. That is not to say that I understand the depth of pain that may override all of that. Just my thoughts....

[Zaya]

I find it very suspicious how they seemed to rule, albeit tentatively, R.W.'s death as a suicide so quickly.

Well they found him with a belt around his neck attached to a door, and he had recently been in rehab. The word is that he had also disclosed to close friends that he was deeply depressed, though that part is hearsay. Circumstantial evidence points to suicide.

[Zaya]

As selfish at it might sound and be to express it here, I have been crying a lot today, crying right now again...not only did I feel grief for Robin, I felt my own grief, over and over...and what's missing in my life...I know that others did too...

I will never commit suicide, I understand why some do...though I do not support it...

I have experienced a similar response as you have, amethyst (ps that is also my birthstone. beautiful, right?)

I have been unable to shake my sadness about this one myself, and have shed many tears. I always felt a kindred spirit kind of connection to him even as a child. It is not selfish of you feel something about this. His entire career was based on the premise that he could elicit all kinds of genuine feelings from us. A GREAT actor not only convinces you that he feels what his characters do, he actually does, and then he teaches you to feel it too. Robin did that for many.

It's ok that his pain made you more aware of yours. We all share this pain, I think.

[Robin]

It disheartens me to see the chatter turning into a possible conspiracy. I have delved deep into the conspiratorial world myself well enough to know that practically nothing that happens on this planet is by accident, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Just because somebody is well-known and died early does not mean that they are part of an elaborate conspiracy. It isn't necessarily harmful to postulate, but it is wise to understand that he was human like anybody else. Just because he was part of Hollywood does not mean that he was a puppet or that he was trying to expose anything.

Robin was a genuine, warm-hearted individual who succumbed to the heavy weight of societal pressure. What about the thousands of people who commit suicide every day for depression, but go unnoticed because they are not part of Hollywood?

This planet is difficult to tread unwavering, and it would be nice every once in a while to look at suffering from an internal perspective rather than solely external. There is room for conspiratorial speculation, but I for one have been enjoying basking in the warm comments on this thread which seems to be dedicated to preserving Robin's everlasting embrace on people.

[Pris]

I absolutely loved Robin Williams. That is why I question whether or not he really did commit suicide. For some people, that 'darkens' his memory. Maybe he had a little 'help' hanging himself. That's not too far fetched considering what's happened to celebrities in the past. He's not here. He can't speak for himself.

Of course I don't trust a single thing I hear from mainstream news anymore so why not postulate?

Personally, like I already said, if he did commit suicide, I wouldn't blame him one little bit. Getting out of here sooner than later doesn't seem like such a bad idea... all things considered -- especially if you suffer. Who am I to judge?

[Daughter of Time]

Thank you, everyone, for posting the videos.

To say that this is a sad occurrence is an understatement.

People like Robin should not die (suicide or otherwise) until very old age. They should live to be well over 100 and continue to remind us of the absurdity of life and the world with their comedic skills. When a light like this goes out, the void is felt far and wide. It reverberates to every person who was touched by his work.

Not only was he an extremely talented performer, but also an extremely generous man. When Christopher Reeves had his accident, he was left with millions of dollars in debt from hospital bills which he could not pay. The bills were paid by Robin Williams!

RIP dear Robin!

[Agape]

People do commit suicide, and especially so people with bipolar disorder. I know several bipolar people, and they all play with the idea of ending their lives. Even people who are not bipolar contemplate ending their life from time to time.



It's only 'too difficult to under-stand' for any so called 'normal self' how possibly can anyone turn against life here , so profoundly .
As Amethyst said as well ... under normal circumstances , no sane individual 'supports suicide' ,
'supporting suicide' is not quite like 'supporting euthanasia' , it's worse than 'supporting murder' would be . If I hate someone ( hypothetically ) and can't control myself and go and kill them , I will spend life in prison and pray for mercy ,
but if I instead , make their life hell , and make them to kill themselves on my behalf because 'I am sociopath' , and I'll not even repent but feel I won .. what kind of redemption can be considered ?

The truth about it all is in our hearts ...

I've contemplated that a lot of recent and how much we think we know of ourselves and others , and see 'through' but there are chambers , intents of heart .. when no one else can enter than you alone . It's hard to guess .. why a person takes such n such step at this point where I'd have done something entirely different . It's what makes us all unique . As the French say .. “The heart has reasons that reason does not understand.”

The truth about 'being suicidal' is that either you are .. and it may be a result of any severe hurt or major psychological trauma, including illness - or you are not , and from the other bank to another it is - metaphysically , very far to go .

But when it comes to such life circumstances .. it's important to be able to step out of ones own sufferings and attachments for a moment and see that it's not me , I'm not the sufferer , I'm merely 'taking part ' and living in heart of society that can be extremely cruel and hurtful from one person to another . And if I'm not worth a penny to anyone around , not worthy their understanding ..
why bother to sacrifice life to them .


:p

[grannyfranny100]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2014/aug/12/robin-williams-suicide-and-depression-are-not-selfish by Dean Burnett

"Robin Williams's death: a reminder that suicide and depression are not selfish
News of Robin Williams’s death due to apparent suicide, said to be a result of suffering severe depression, is terribly sad. But to say taking your own life because of such an illness is a ‘selfish’ act does nothing but insult the deceased, potentially cause more harm and reveal a staggering ignorance of mental health problems

The “selfish” accusation also often implies that there are other options the sufferer has, but has chosen suicide. Or that it’s the “easy way out”. There are many ways to describe the sort of suffering that overrides a survival instinct that has evolved over millions of years, but “easy” isn’t an obvious one to go for. Perhaps none of it makes sense from a logical perspective, but insisting on logical thinking from someone in the grips of a mental illness is like insisting that someone with a broken leg walks normally; logically, you shouldn’t do that."

Read entire article http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2014/aug/12/robin-williams-suicide-and-depression-are-not-selfish by Dean Burnett

Watch the movie "Patch Adams" to better understand the depth of Robin Williams'
viewpoint and how difficult it is to have insights that stand so distant to societal norms.

The real Patch Adams is still alive and continues his compassionate vision of medicine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SARHCS8DRJE

[Wind]

Somehow I have felt that this event of "collective grief" has somehow brought people more together so I guess that every cloud has a silver lining.

KWK6RIXtOag

[Robin]

As selfish at it might sound and be to express it here, I have been crying a lot today, crying right now again...not only did I feel grief for Robin, I felt my own grief, over and over...and what's missing in my life...I know that others did too...

I will never commit suicide, I understand why some do...though I do not support it...

You are not the only one to shed tears, dear Amethyst. I share similar sentiment. I'm currently watching some of my favorite films by Robin, and tears have been streaming down my face. As a man, I'm not afraid to admit this.

[Roisin]

It's funny but I couldn't put a finger on it wrt to how I felt the moment when I found out that Robin William's was dead until just a few minutes ago when I recalled how I felt when another immense raw talent of cosmic proportions died suddenly .... Michael Jackson. They only come around once in a century or so but the vid below shows M.J. at his best throughout the years in his live performances. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4JI-RbMaF4

[AriG]

It's funny but I couldn't put a finger on it wrt to how I felt the moment when I found out that Robin William's was dead until just a few minutes ago when I recalled how I felt when another immense raw talent of cosmic proportions died suddenly .... Michael Jackson. They only come around once in a century or so but the vid below shows M.J. at his best throughout the years in his live performances. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4JI-RbMaF4

I was thinking about that mass collective today. I think the difference between the two is that Robin Williams was a real, approachable human being. Michael Jackson, sadly, became a meme...and not a positive one.

[Roisin]

I'm looking at it in terms of the kind of electrified energy both of them possessed and gave off in their performances throughout the years. To me, they each had that certain incredibly charismatic spark, unmatched by any other performers in their era of time when they were at their peak. And yes, both seemed to peak around the same time.

They each gave it their "ALL" to the point that it almost seemed to border on "super-human".

[Frank V]

I'm looking at it in terms of the kind of electrified energy both of them possessed and gave off in their performances throughout the years. To me, they each had that certain incredibly charismatic spark, unmatched by any other performers in their era of time when they were at their peak. And yes, both seemed to peak around the same time.

There are many more artists (and other people) with an outspoken charisma and power, Roisin. It is however an unfortunate human tendency to only appreciate them after they're already gone from this world. And even then some.

[AriG]

I was hit with an impression after watching one of Robin's most recent movies last night.."Father of the Year". Where do I begin.. perhaps with the plot: (please note that this will be graphic and perhaps offensive to some):

Robin plays a divorced father of an adolescent boy, a boy who, mind you is a complete sociopathic misanthrope who is only tuned into one thing... his phallus. He clearly has and participates in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6666761 - the act of masturbation and axfixiation that supposedly produces a cataclysmic orgasm beyond compare.

Per recent media releases, Robin's third wife of only three years, was sleeping in separate quarters and left the house the next morning without checking on his well being ( a completely foreign concept in a healthy marriage, in my humble experience).

Robin's most recent "World Tour" was addled with sexual innuendo. Funny in spots, but completely graphic and offensive to a thinking person ( no doubt he was pandering to the lowest common denominator for profit).

The Coroner reports that Robin was found in a quasi-squat position with a belt around his neck ( exactly the way the boy in the movie passed during extreme maturbation).

By no means am I trying to impugn the character of a beloved person, that said, there are clearly parallels here and as in the plot of the "Father of the Year" is it possible that his family is trying to spare his memory the humiliation?

edit to add: what was that movie that RW was in wherein he played an undertaker of the future who re-lived the deceased person's memories via video and erased the embarrassing parts?

Question: Was RW a "method actor"? If so, the proof might be in that pudding...

[Roisin]

I'm looking at it in terms of the kind of electrified energy both of them possessed and gave off in their performances throughout the years. To me, they each had that certain incredibly charismatic spark, unmatched by any other performers in their era of time when they were at their peak. And yes, both seemed to peak around the same time.

There are many more artists (and other people) with an outspoken charisma and power, Roisin. It is however an unfortunate human tendency to only appreciate them after they're already gone from this world. And even then some.

Well, what I was saying was very subjective of course and you could be right... time will tell but, in my book, both of those performers were extraordinary. Sometimes even beyond belief.

[Roisin]

My favorite RW movie was "The World According to Garp". I felt that it demonstrated his ability for comedy and serious drama simultaneously and was as tragic as he. What a loss.

" Watch out for the under toad! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBGrTbbV_aQ

One of my favorite books and R.W's was perfect in that movie. Along with "The Dead Poet's Society", both of these R.W.movies are my favorite. Oh, and I like "Mrs. Doubtfire" too. lol

[AriG]

My favorite RW movie was "The World According to Garp". I felt that it demonstrated his ability for comedy and serious drama simultaneously and was as tragic as he. What a loss.

" Watch out for the under toad! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBGrTbbV_aQ

One of my favorite books and R.W's was perfect in that movie. Along with "The Dead Poet's Society", both of these R.W.movies are my favorite. Oh, and I like "Mrs. Doubtfire" too. lol

In my first marriage, I was the "step monster" to two very lovely, yet quite traumatized little girls. That movie, "Mrs. Doubtfire" had quite a healing effect on them. I too, was a traumatized little girl of divorce. There is nothing more debilitating than the realization that one of your parents doesn't want to be part of the family any longer. Daddies take note: You don't just divorce Mommy, the little ones feel divorced as well. (that very well have been the moment that my ovaries stopped producing viable eggs)....sorry... not trying to play the victim... just in the moment..... memories.

[Spellbound]

I find it very suspicious how they seemed to rule, albeit tentatively, R.W.'s death as a suicide so quickly.

Well they found him with a belt around his neck attached to a door, and he had recently been in rehab. The word is that he had also disclosed to close friends that he was deeply depressed, though that part is hearsay. Circumstantial evidence points to suicide.

This may be a morbid question (and perhaps I'm missing something here). However, how does one asphyxiate themselves with a belt and a door?? I understand that his wrist had been cut (or attempted to be cut).....but I don't understand the asphyxiation part with simply a door. If you're going to hang yourself....do it from the rafters or something up high. Reminds me of when Michael Hutchence (INXS) was suspected of committing suicide while hanging from a door...which imo isn't high enough for someone wanting to end their life by means of hanging themselves. Personally, I think Michael Hutchence went too far with auto eroticism (sometimes referred to as scarfing....cutting off the flow of oxygen to the brain thus intensifying orgasm....not intention of actually killing himself....but as they say, **** happens). Not saying this is what happened here with Robin Williams (I somehow doubt that would be the case here).....but I don't understand how someone does themselves in with a belt and a door.

Dave - Toronto

[Robin]

'Aladdin' Genie Voice Actor Performs Tribute to Robin Williams (https://www.yahoo.com/movies/aladdin-genie-voice-actor-performs-tribute-to-robin-95004397367.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwR3Fm2q_i0

By Jason Hughes

Voice talent Jim Meskimen was touched by the loss of Robin Williams in a unique and personal way. Since 2008, he has been the voice of Disney’s Genie character from Aladdin, having voiced him in a series of Disney video games. Williams, of course, famously brought the Genie to life in the original Disney classic.

The character is one of Williams’s signature performances, leading Meskimen to wonder if he should continue voicing the character now that the actor who originated him has died.

In a video tribute to the late comedian, Meskimen explained that he chose to answer that question by putting pen to paper. “I decided to write this poem, to work it out for myself, and to answer the question,” he said.

Meskimen then presented the poem, in the voice of Robin Williams. See the full tribute in the video above or read it below:


"In Memory Of Robin Williams" by Jim Meskimen

They didn’t burn all the pianos
When Fredrick Chopin died

Didn’t outlaw oil paints
when Picasso took his final ride

No one put a stop to baseball
When Mickey Mantle’s time was up

Or banned all Russian novels
When Tolstoy went belly up

On Shakespeare’s death, nobody said
“Now hath arrived the day —

From this point hence let none dare
Put forth pen to write a play!”

We celebrate what’s left
By the departed, it’s our choice

Yet it does seem sacriligeous
To do Robin Williams’ voice

A voice that was designed to soothe,
Soft, deep tones that resonate

And cascade gently outward
From behind a smiling face

A voice that could accelerate
To catch up with the mind

Like shifting into overdrive
To not get left behind

A voice that could change character
Like seconds on a clock

Or hijack nationalities
For a spin around the block

Shift age, shift viewpoint, shift I.Q.,
Whatever’s not nailed down

Destroy, rebuild, destroy again,
A formidable clown

We’ll hear this voice in future times
In reruns on TV,

It will occupy the world wide web
Live on, digitally

We’ll hear its echoes come
From other mouths and other lips

In tributes and homages, and,
Like psychedelic trips

We’ll think the owner’s back again
With his familiar sound

But they’ll all be imitations —
Just an audible rebound

New jokes aren’t in the pipeline now,
Not that the well went dry —

But the jester who possessed this voice
Just chose to say goodbye

With the wealth of joy he left us
We should probably rejoice

But it’s hard to grasp we lost the guy
Who used to have this voice.