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Natalia
15th August 2014, 08:29
Just looking into this a bit more (and reaching out) because Carol Clark said that I am from there...(and home is very important to me)...I've had a few people before tell me that I am from Pleiades and while I did feel a connection there (and had dreams of being a blond woman here or somewhere like here thousands of years ago - before they told me, and dream of a blond man ET visiting me)...the Pleiades feel familiar to me but then I felt that there was more to me...another strong connection and place that I lived in, somewhere else...

I remember years ago (before reading about "starseeds") looking at Sirius in the night sky and feeling such a strong connection...then later I felt that a soulmate was from there...

For years I have felt that my spiritual home is a peaceful loving place without any cruelty, anger, violence...this is what Carol Clark told me it was like in Cassiopeia, and so that resonated with me...(sounds similar to Pleiades...)...

I read somewhere that cassiopeians are also called andromedans, is this true? I know they are close together...

(here: ""(A-06) The Andromedains; the Andromedains also known as Cassiopaeans are beings that are said to be from the Cassiopeia star system and the ones that stemmed the myths about the gods of ancient greece and others. they are said to be humanoid/reptilian/chameleon hybrids and some had serpentine DNA like Medusa. "
http://elitejaz.webs.com/listsofaliens.htm)

Has anyone else here been told that they are from Cassiopeia? Or feel a connection there...?...

araucaria
15th August 2014, 12:18
Hi Amethyst. There was thread on this a few years back, someone telling people where they came from. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

Curt
15th August 2014, 13:07
Here's a link to the thread you mentioned. The member who had been providing readings, Eternal One, may no longer be active.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin


Hi Amethyst. There was thread on this a few years back, someone telling people where they came from. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

Natalia
15th August 2014, 13:21
Thank you, I will read it later.

araucaria
15th August 2014, 13:51
Apparently Eternal One got swamped by the demand. He was using Dr David Hawkins' kinesiology. In The Emotion Code, Dr Bradley Nelson offers a protocol for self-administered kinesiology to clear repressed emotions that seems to work, and it would probably work for this issue if one substituted star systems for emotions.

BlueMuffin
15th August 2014, 14:51
You know, interestingly enough, I've had more than a few individuals that have no connection with each other who've said I am a "pleiadian" in-which resulted in me granting some sort of credence on the matter. In my teenage years I was heavily into this line of thinking, had an avid interest in channeling material, psychics, developing PSI and so on.

However, as time has went along and I further observed and was even involved in such groups that deemed themselves "starseeds" and so on, time and time again all this channeled material and predictions never played out, seemed to be misleading in many ways or just down right ridiculous. Many of the groups simply fizzle out and as I got older and continued to grow myself I realized they weren't all that spiritual or enlightened in the first place...

To be quite honest, I'm of the notion these claims are fed to us as a sort of Ego-gratification, if you will, to make us feel "special" and nice and lubed up to further pursue control endeavors dressed up as the "spiritual path".
I now hold the opinion that the very same source that people are taping into, whether it be psychics, mediums, channels is something of the Astral(human illusion, ideas, and thoughts) and often feeds us half-truths to hook us in while inundating us with false realities and pursuits so as to properly control us. Many "New Age" principals and so forth if examined meticulously, can be discerned just as a modern control system being propagated for the reason that organized religions of today are weakening their hold and no longer adequate. People need a new source to reach out to them and tell them they're special and give them a purpose...

I'd also like to say in no way am I saying you're not special, nor can I prove any of this is true; but it's simply my take on my matter... If anything, aren't we all made of stars and dust in the first place, and even perhaps a genetic hybrid of many universal races?

I suppose all we can do is explore, speculate, and apply what has meaning to us all the while remaining open and unattached so as to prosper further growth.

I think we're all Starseeds, in a way... : )

Sloppyjoe
15th August 2014, 15:04
Just looking into this a bit more (and reaching out) because Carol Clark said that I am from there...(and home is very important to me)...I've had a few people before tell me that I am from Pleiades and while I did feel a connection there (and had dreams of being a blond woman here or somewhere like here thousands of years ago - before they told me, and dream of a blond man ET visiting me)...the Pleiades feel familiar to me but then I felt that there was more to me...another strong connection and place that I lived in, somewhere else...

I remember years ago (before reading about "starseeds") looking at Sirius in the night sky and feeling such a strong connection...then later I felt that a soulmate was from there...

For years I have felt that my spiritual home is a peaceful loving place without any cruelty, anger, violence...this is what Carol Clark told me it was like in Cassiopeia, and so that resonated with me...(sounds similar to Pleiades...)...

I read somewhere that cassiopeians are also called andromedans, is this true? I know they are close together...

(here: ""(A-06) The Andromedains; the Andromedains also known as Cassiopaeans are beings that are said to be from the Cassiopeia star system and the ones that stemmed the myths about the gods of ancient greece and others. they are said to be humanoid/reptilian/chameleon hybrids and some had serpentine DNA like Medusa. "
http://elitejaz.webs.com/listsofaliens.htm)

Has anyone else here been told that they are from Cassiopeia? Or feel a connection there...?...

Hi Amethyst, interesting that you mention that because Carol also told me that I am from Cassiopeia.

Frank V
15th August 2014, 17:38
Just looking into this a bit more (and reaching out) because Carol Clark said that I am from there...(and home is very important to me)...I've had a few people before tell me that I am from Pleiades and while I did feel a connection there (and had dreams of being a blond woman here or somewhere like here thousands of years ago - before they told me, and dream of a blond man ET visiting me)...the Pleiades feel familiar to me but then I felt that there was more to me...another strong connection and place that I lived in, somewhere else...

I remember years ago (before reading about "starseeds") looking at Sirius in the night sky and feeling such a strong connection...then later I felt that a soulmate was from there...

For years I have felt that my spiritual home is a peaceful loving place without any cruelty, anger, violence...this is what Carol Clark told me it was like in Cassiopeia, and so that resonated with me...(sounds similar to Pleiades...)...


There are many peaceful and loving places in the universe, my friend - and even outside of the universe as humanity understands it. :-) However, it is important to acknowledge that the whole New Age movement has been milking out the Pleiades and visitors from there - or visitors who pretend to be from there - and that its spiritually idyllic nature appeals to everyone's imagination and goes hand in hand with the whole "Space Brothers", "Galactic Federation of Light and "Ashtar Command" thing. It generates a kind of "black & white" thinking, where other possibilities are ruled out - think "US Democrats versus US Republicans, and other parties are irrelevant" - and it feeds into the disenfranchising of humanity by presenting the Pleiadeans, Cassiopeians, Orions or whomever as The Cavalry That Will Come And Save Us All ™.

As for dreams, they are by no means necessarily a representation of the truth. The human mind is very powerful, and when we sleep, our consciousness has to make do with an only partially "functional" brain, and our imagination starts playing into our fantasies, our fears, things we've subconsciously picked up during the day (or several days earlier), and so on. In addition to that, we do also pick up information which is genuine, as well as communications - "downloads", if you will - but this may include manipulative (mis-/dis-)information.

That all said, Earth is currently populated by a very high percentage of souls who are not indigenous to Earth. Most of those souls are Volunteers, and others are Emissaries. All have come here to help uplift the global human consciousness via the mechanism of sympathetic vibration. It has nothing to do with "raising the frequencies" or "shifting into 5D" or all those New Age promises. There is no such thing. But to repeat myself from an earlier analogy I've expounded elsewhere on Avalon a while ago already, if you take an acoustic guitar, and you pluck one string, all the other strings will start resonating as well, even though they are tuned differently. This is because of the mechanical vibrations from the string you plucked, which are being transmitted into the whole guitar body via the bridge and the neck of the guitar, and so the other strings will begin vibrating as well. This is the principle of sympathetic vibration.

Now, this is what the Volunteers and Emissaries came here to do at the energetic level. Due to our nature, we will also vocalize our dissent with the flaws of Earth's civilization and/or take physical action, but our most significant power lies in the unseen sympathetic vibrations we generate, because we are far more energetic at the spiritual level. That's what a higher consciousness is like. And so, our energy will emanate into society and touch others, causing them to vibrate energetically at a stronger level, which means that their consciousness will expand. They will become more aware, more alert, more in touch with what's really going on, and more in touch with their own thoughts and feelings, instead of continuing to live like perfect little cogs in the financial-economic industrial machine, who never question anything and accept all that the mainstream media and the political caste are telling them.



I read somewhere that cassiopeians are also called andromedans, is this true? I know they are close together...


Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two million years. :-)



(here: ""(A-06) The Andromedains; the Andromedains also known as Cassiopaeans are beings that are said to be from the Cassiopeia star system and the ones that stemmed the myths about the gods of ancient greece and others. they are said to be humanoid/reptilian/chameleon hybrids and some had serpentine DNA like Medusa. "
http://elitejaz.webs.com/listsofaliens.htm)

Has anyone else here been told that they are from Cassiopeia? Or feel a connection there...?...

Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot has done an interview with Laura Knight-Jadczyk, who communicates with the Cassiopeians, and although Laura's words could be interpreted in a metaphorical sense, she says that "the Cassiopeians are us in the future". That can be interpreted in many ways, of course. ;-)

If you really seek to explore your origins, then you could always look into Dolores Cannon's work. There are several people - including some here on Avalon - who have taken Dolores' courses and are now capable of regressing someone to their previous lives using Dolores' methods. This has already yielded some very startling information, and this is one of the ways by which we - there is no "we" ;-) - have become aware of the Volunteers and Emissaries.

In light of this, I would also like to point at this thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70843-No-past-lives-anywhere----Let-s-talk-), which was started by my two "colleagues" and myself in an attempt to find Volunteers and Emissaries who had never lived a physical, mortal life before, and who had thus never incarnated before. The thread is cold now, but some interesting stuff was presented and discussed there. I am also going to include two videos of the interview that Project Camelot did with Dolores Cannon herself. Even though it doesn't directly answer your question, it may be interesting to you nevertheless. :-)

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You can find Dolores Cannon's e-book "The Three Waves Of Volunteers And The New Earth" here (http://projectavalon.net/Dolores_Cannon_The_Three_Waves_of_Volunteers_and_the_New_Earth.pdf), and a link to her blog on the Three Waves here (http://www.blog.dolorescannon.com/waves-volunteers-earth-generations-souls/).

As for some other trivia, in 2011, I have partly written - but not yet completed (if I ever do) - an intergalactic science-fiction saga in which I mention the Cassiopeians as one of the Galactic Guardian civilizations in the Milky Way, who have seeded humanity on Earth and on a few other Earth-like planets, albeit that the actual heroes of my story come from the Triangulum Galaxy. :-)

Natalia
15th August 2014, 18:23
Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe...

I do hear what you guys are saying about new age deception and egos and etc...that all comes into it at times...

But I genuinely have a feeling and desire that just won't stay away...and I feel there is something missing in my life (and in me...)...a few months ago this guy in email said that he saw me as complete...I told him that I do not feel this way and for years have felt something missing...and I am not talking about finding my spiritual home is to fill a low self esteem hole - it is not to do with that...it is a heart longing...yearning...

I also thought about it a bit today after reading your posts here, and asked myself with a newness and openness to it - Why do I feel like I need to find home? And then I felt and thought that it is because it will help me to be more of who I am...I do feel a bit lost...so it's not just about me wanting to feel home and a belonging (though it is that too), it is also about what I am building, growing in myself here in human form, and connecting to...

What ever anyone sais, it won't go away...

Natalia
15th August 2014, 18:54
hehehe :)

iyFijjikkeM

Fairy Friend
15th August 2014, 19:14
Interesting you say that, I wanted to show you the Andromeda galaxy, it is 2.5 million light years away and has over a trillion stars in it. It is visible with the naked eye but it will look like a star because it is so big and very similar to ours. The story of Cassiopeia is actually Greek but the Romans would have copied it and often carried over a lot of the mythology, even though sometimes they changed the names, sometimes they didn't. The constellation Cassiopeia 'the Queen' actually points to the Andromeda galaxy and the way home. If you were a Roman scribe you would have been educated in Greek mythology. Just some facts that may help you.

Frank V
15th August 2014, 19:50
Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe...

I do hear what you guys are saying about new age deception and egos and etc...that all comes into it at times...

But I genuinely have a feeling and desire that just won't stay away...and I feel there is something missing in my life (and in me...)...a few months ago this guy in email said that he saw me as complete...I told him that I do not feel this way and for years have felt something missing...and I am not talking about finding my spiritual home is to fill a low self esteem hole - it is not to do with that...it is a heart longing...yearning...

I also thought about it a bit today after reading your posts here, and asked myself with a newness and openness to it - Why do I feel like I need to find home? And then I felt and thought that it is because it will help me to be more of who I am...I do feel a bit lost...so it's not just about me wanting to feel home and a belonging (though it is that too), it is also about what I am building, growing in myself here in human form, and connecting to...

What ever anyone sais, it won't go away...

It is not so strange that you don't feel at home here if you are not from here. All of us Volunteers and Emissaries feel that. This world is not our home, and the ways of humanity are not our ways.

So yes, we will always have that need to find a home here, a place where we can feel comfortable, and that too, in itself, is one of the things we will be playing out in our existence on this planet, so that humanity itself will eventually find its own sheltering home. Right now, it's a jungle, and "dog eats dog". :-/

Frank V
15th August 2014, 19:58
Interesting you say that, I wanted to show you the Andromeda galaxy, it is 2.5 million light years away and has over a trillion stars in it. It is visible with the naked eye but it will look like a star because it is so big and very similar to ours. The story of Cassiopeia is actually Greek but the Romans would have copied it and often carried over a lot of the mythology, even though sometimes they changed the names, sometimes they didn't. The constellation Cassiopeia 'the Queen' actually points to the Andromeda galaxy and the way home. If you were a Roman scribe you would have been educated in Greek mythology. Just some facts that may help you.

Andromeda is also where - at least, according to some sources - the Milky Way's own galactic council resides. It is said - among others by Alex Collier - that the Andromedans were once in charge of guarding the Milky Way, and more specifically, Earth and its solar system.

As the story goes - and please take this with a grain of salt - the Andromedans then left the care of Earth and its solar system into the hands of the Plejaran (i.e. the Pleiadeans), but the Plejaren were forced to leave Earth's solar system due to a sudden attack on their home world, and in their absence, an evil force came in and took over Earth. According to Chris Thomas, this evil force would be the Velon - Jinn-like creatures from the general direction of the Sagittarius constellation. In the end, the attack on the Plejaran home world, Erra, may have been a decoy to allow the Velon (or whoever they were) to come in and take over Earth via the Illuminati structure.

Natalia
15th August 2014, 20:48
Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe...

I do hear what you guys are saying about new age deception and egos and etc...that all comes into it at times...

But I genuinely have a feeling and desire that just won't stay away...and I feel there is something missing in my life (and in me...)...a few months ago this guy in email said that he saw me as complete...I told him that I do not feel this way and for years have felt something missing...and I am not talking about finding my spiritual home is to fill a low self esteem hole - it is not to do with that...it is a heart longing...yearning...

I also thought about it a bit today after reading your posts here, and asked myself with a newness and openness to it - Why do I feel like I need to find home? And then I felt and thought that it is because it will help me to be more of who I am...I do feel a bit lost...so it's not just about me wanting to feel home and a belonging (though it is that too), it is also about what I am building, growing in myself here in human form, and connecting to...

What ever anyone sais, it won't go away...

It is not so strange that you don't feel at home here if you are not from here. All of us Volunteers and Emissaries feel that. This world is not our home, and the ways of humanity are not our ways.

So yes, we will always have that need to find a home here, a place where we can feel comfortable, and that too, in itself, is one of the things we will be playing out in our existence on this planet, so that humanity itself will eventually find its own sheltering home. Right now, it's a jungle, and "dog eats dog". :-/

Good reminder of the feeling home and belonging, here on Earth to come...

I have time traveled, too...maybe I feel like just settling down...(I hardly know anything about time travel, but I know that I've done it, and had a "feel real" dream about it once where me and this guy time traveled together, after being on a space ship)...

And for "wanderers" well part of that is not staying anywhere for long? (until no more wandering)...but is there one (special to me) place that feels like home the most?...the place that I will go to after this life...but while here, need to make a home here, I know...

Frank V
15th August 2014, 22:31
Good reminder of the feeling home and belonging, here on Earth to come...

I have time traveled, too...maybe I feel like just settling down...(I hardly know anything about time travel, but I know that I've done it, and had a "feel real" dream about it once where me and this guy time traveled together, after being on a space ship)...


Well, I think that your best option of getting a "total recall" moment is to seek out someone who does hypnotic regressions using Dolores Cannon's method. I don't know whether there are any such people in the UK, but I presume there must be, because Dolores has travelled the world and has held seminars everywhere. One of my "colleagues" with regard to our thread and group has met Dolores in Australia and has attended the courses and workshops there. So I presume that the UK will have some attendees too, because I'm pretty sure that Dolores has held seminars there as well. :-)



And for "wanderers" well part of that is not staying anywhere for long? (until no more wandering)...but is there one (special to me) place that feels like home the most?...the place that I will go to after this life...but while here, need to make a home here, I know...

Well, I myself am not a Wanderer. This is my first and last incarnation, anywhere. However, I don't want to derail this thread and I have already expounded on my nature and origins elsewhere, albeit that I haven't spoken in public about the latest discoveries yet. But maybe one day I will, and in the meantime, if you want to know, then you know how you can reach me. :-)

As for feeling at home... Well, insofar as it is possible for someone like me to feel home anywhere on Earth, I do have a place where I would like to spend the rest of my life, but alas, at the moment I cannot afford to move there. It's a very lovely small borough at the Belgian coast where I used to spend my summer vacations with the family when I was much younger. It's beautiful, peaceful, and yet not too quiet either, because it does attract a number of tourists, especially during the season. It is my dream to go and live there. :-)

BlueMuffin
16th August 2014, 00:16
hehehe :)

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You're quite cute Amethyst, I must say.

I understand what you're saying from long-standing personal experience, as I've always felt a bit out of place with a certain affinity towards the stars.

I've always oft pondered why I was walking around with all this pain and no idea where it came from... I seemed to show people parts of themselves they wouldn't see and didn't want to see simply by being in my presence, and people always reacted strangely towards me. This may come off awfully ego driven, but I say it not really as a positive attribute.

I've always felt particularly driven with passion to stand up against injustice and misgivings, and not really being afraid in doing so. I've always questioned the power structure and never dealt well with rigid guidelines and a "one way to do it" kind of attitude. Even from an early age I've been this way...

I think the emptiness you feel may be simply being expressed as you belong elsewhere as an attempt to explain it, even off planet... I'm sure if you found yourself in the right circumstances in the right environment surrounded with the right people, you would feel right at home!

I also believe that when one discovers true purpose in life that truly motivates them it elevates one beyond such feelings, as life is filled with new animation the spark of inspiration pushes them forward..

In a sense, while I've tasted a bit of each, I'm still ultimately looking for what may qualify as mine.

Robin
16th August 2014, 00:55
Hey Amethyst,

It is easy to get caught up in the search for our soul origins. I have spent countless hours analyzing my soul by digging deep into my psyche and working with various Hypnotic therapies, including the method practiced by Dolores Cannon.

I am not from Cassiopeia, nor the Andromeda galaxy, as far as I have gathered. I was visited by my cosmic "family" last year, which was the start of my awakening. My entire reality was obliterated in two hours on the ship. They told me some things about my past, but ultimately left me with more questions than answers. After the occurrence, I did everything I could to validate the information they told me, including where my soul originates.

I did Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy, which didn't necessarily work given my ego was governing my consciousness. But what did slip out was I blurted out the word "Procyon" when the healer asked me where I came from. I never heard of "Procyon" before, and the word just slipped out of my lips without even thinking about it. So as far as I can tell, my origin may very well be from Procyon.

Having found this out, many things started to make more sense. But I also found that the more time I spent trying to figure out what my soul is all about, the less time I focused on this earthly existence. I felt a longing much like you to understand, but I realized that I am a human on Earth at this point in time, and I better make the best of it.

The more I think about my true origin, the worse off I end up feeling knowing that I could be spending my time in Utopia rather than this living-Hell we call Earth.

I hope you find answers, but remember that you write your own story, irregardless of your origin. :)

seehas
16th August 2014, 05:21
On Dolores Cannons website you can find lists for every country, people that gained her certificate. Ive also contacted persons from that list and you should be carefull and listen to your intuition, some people want to make a lot of money with it instead of helping.

But you should try it yourself here is the link
http://www.dolorescannon.com/find-practitioner

Btw. greetings from somewhere near alpha centauri :)

araucaria
16th August 2014, 09:07
Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two)[/QUOTE]
Not quite ;): the Andromeda galaxy is located in the constellation of the same name, just next to the constellation of Cassiopeia, so I guess Andromedans might come from any of the stars in the Andromeda constellation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28constellation%29

SunSea
16th August 2014, 16:37
Hello Everyone, I d like to share my experience of "being special" after hearing the starseed/indigo information years ago connected to new age thought. This idea/feeling of being special is a manifestation of the lower, ego mind. Obvious, you probably say and that is correct. At this time I have worked some years on recognizing the negative ego or predator mind(archontic mind) in myself which is the predominant mind of humanity. This mental patterning is constructed of dualist concepts such as better then, less then, at its bases and creates endless suffering within the self and conflict with other people.

At this time I still consider myself to be from another, more advanced plane of existence and I'm likely one of the beings Aragon speaks of. But there is no specialness in this and I feel none. The issue is, humanity has been kept in such a VERY limited perspective where the knowledge of multi-dimensions, other worlds and beings IS the reality. Kept in a cage where our own higher self, which is at the core of all humanity, cant be experienced and the broader knowing of reality isn't perceived. I understand and experience this broader reality as just the way it is. If one is in fact a being with more insight or from a advanced plane of existence, then they see the value in all life and every persons "specialness". One is not above or below another as all have value. Its been my experience when telling others I am a starseed, they will immediately place me in this dualistic mental construction where I am implying that I am "better than", then conflict arises within them and so conflict with me.

Excuse me for getting off topic here Amethyst. I've gone through this feeling of not belonging most of my life and have yearned to go or be at home. This feeling has also passed. My guides and star family are with me and I hold a purpose of helping to move the precious life here along in this one plain of existence. This is done in a very humble way for I am not allowed to be anything but humble. I've always been sort of invisible, not a leader, not recognized, no praise. At this time in my life I see the great value in this. Its been a form of protection, has allowed me to develop inwardly without a lot of outward distractions. I used to wonder a great deal where I come from, Pleiadean, Sirian etc. I would like to know but its more a curiosity now without much consequence. I consider this was a need I had for a certain sense of identity. I've applied many different labels or identities to myself over the years. I now see this as a by product of the control system we live in. Since we are cut off from our true selves(identity) and the broader understanding, one is compelled to find that identity somewhere. This is also a construction of the archon, lower mind that seeks to keep us trapped in circumscribed areas of identity or archetypes such as teacher, artist, parent, Pleiadian etc. As we over identify with these roles we are affectively cut off from our true selves and experiencing a more wholeness of being which is outside limited mental fixations. Hope that makes sense. I am only sharing MY experience, not saying this is yours in any way.

Enough rambling, hope this is helpful. Love SunSea

BlueMuffin
16th August 2014, 16:44
Hey Amethyst,

It is easy to get caught up in the search for our soul origins. I have spent countless hours analyzing my soul by digging deep into my psyche and working with various Hypnotic therapies, including the method practiced by Dolores Cannon.

I am not from Cassiopeia, nor the Andromeda galaxy, as far as I have gathered. I was visited by my cosmic "family" last year, which was the start of my awakening. My entire reality was obliterated in two hours on the ship. They told me some things about my past, but ultimately left me with more questions than answers. After the occurrence, I did everything I could to validate the information they told me, including where my soul originates.

I did Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy, which didn't necessarily work given my ego was governing my consciousness. But what did slip out was I blurted out the word "Procyon" when the healer asked me where I came from. I never heard of "Procyon" before, and the word just slipped out of my lips without even thinking about it. So as far as I can tell, my origin may very well be from Procyon.

Having found this out, many things started to make more sense. But I also found that the more time I spent trying to figure out what my soul is all about, the less time I focused on this earthly existence. I felt a longing much like you to understand, but I realized that I am a human on Earth at this point in time, and I better make the best of it.

The more I think about my true origin, the worse off I end up feeling knowing that I could be spending my time in Utopia rather than this living-Hell we call Earth.

I hope you find answers, but remember that you write your own story, irregardless of your origin. :)


Is it really hell, or perhaps a great gift of experience? Despite the fact we live in a troubled world, the many luxuries a large number of us are afforded in today's world, would make it's long enduring past of struggle and difficulty look like paradise. Maybe to eventually gain actual paradise and an advanced state of living a capable race most advance through difficulty so as to actually deserve it and appreciate it. I don't always agree with peoples claims of the seemingly inefficient system of Karma and the punishments carried out in recurring lifetimes, but I do believe that struggle, even suffering acts a greatest catalyst to growth. This reflects in my life, and my guess is to some degree is mirrored in many others. Saying this place is a hell is but a perspective to take and probably directly contributes to it on a general level, and most certainly on a personal level to anyone who takes such a position.

If you don't mind me asking, was this visitation by your "cosmic" family undertaken while you were dreaming or under any other form of altered perception, or was it all as physically real as daily life occurrence? I'm particularly fascinated by such recollections that claim it happened by means solely when they were completely grounded in their senses. While I don't completely discount methods such as hypnotic regression and find them interesting, I think they are vulnerable to being fed distortions and thus not reliable, similar to many other means coming from outside ourselves and by fault of our own imaginations.

Natalia
16th August 2014, 17:53
Hello Everyone, I d like to share my experience of "being special" after hearing the starseed/indigo information years ago connected to new age thought. This idea/feeling of being special is a manifestation of the lower, ego mind. Obvious, you probably say and that is correct. At this time I have worked some years on recognizing the negative ego or predator mind(archontic mind) in myself which is the predominant mind of humanity. This mental patterning is constructed of dualist concepts such as better then, less then, at its bases and creates endless suffering within the self and conflict with other people.

At this time I still consider myself to be from another, more advanced plane of existence and I'm likely one of the beings Aragon speaks of. But there is no specialness in this and I feel none. The issue is, humanity has been kept in such a VERY limited perspective where the knowledge of multi-dimensions, other worlds and beings IS the reality. Kept in a cage where our own higher self, which is at the core of all humanity, cant be experienced and the broader knowing of reality isn't perceived. I understand and experience this broader reality as just the way it is. If one is in fact a being with more insight or from a advanced plane of existence, then they see the value in all life and every persons "specialness". One is not above or below another as all have value. Its been my experience when telling others I am a starseed, they will immediately place me in this dualistic mental construction where I am implying that I am "better than", then conflict arises within them and so conflict with me.

Excuse me for getting off topic here Amethyst. I've gone through this feeling of not belonging most of my life and have yearned to go or be at home. This feeling has also passed. My guides and star family are with me and I hold a purpose of helping to move the precious life here along in this one plain of existence. This is done in a very humble way for I am not allowed to be anything but humble. I've always been sort of invisible, not a leader, not recognized, no praise. At this time in my life I see the great value in this. Its been a form of protection, has allowed me to develop inwardly without a lot of outward distractions. I used to wonder a great deal where I come from, Pleiadean, Sirian etc. I would like to know but its more a curiosity now without much consequence. I consider this was a need I had for a certain sense of identity. I've applied many different labels or identities to myself over the years. I now see this as a by product of the control system we live in. Since we are cut off from our true selves(identity) and the broader understanding, one is compelled to find that identity somewhere. This is also a construction of the archon, lower mind that seeks to keep us trapped in circumscribed areas of identity or archetypes such as teacher, artist, parent, Pleiadian etc. As we over identify with these roles we are affectively cut off from our true selves and experiencing a more wholeness of being which is outside limited mental fixations. Hope that makes sense. I am only sharing MY experience, not saying this is yours in any way.

Enough rambling, hope this is helpful. Love SunSea

SunSea, I hope that you understand where I am coming from when I say this, but this is not at all to do with me wanting to feel special...

If someone has African roots and they want to find out more about them, does that mean that they want to feel more special and better than other people? Or does it mean that they want to find out more about their roots? Or both? To me, it is the same thing when it comes to our out there home...or our out there places that we have lived in...just that they are much further away and not known about by many humans...

Not everyone talks/shares about it for the same reasons...you talk about you always being invisible, and no praise, etc...well I have hidden this part and other parts of myself most of my life...it's not that I go around talking about it to people...here on this forum I bring it up at times because it is safer than else where, even if some people judge you as being egotistical, unhumble and wanting to feel better and more special than other people...when all you want do is find out more about who you are, and about your home, and connect with people who relate and understand (this would not happen if I did not share any of this or other things about my life, here or anywhere - and I did that for years and it was very lonely).

Every now and then I look more into my spiritual home and "out there" experiences, and soul connections...it is not a liner thing...like a phase that I "get over forever"...

What is right for the person at the time...as we go and flow along in life...our unique lives that are the same and different...

I see/feel and believe that every human being is important and has value and beauty and something "special/unique/weird" about them...

But we do not all have the same journey (well none of us do)...just because it is unusual in the whole of the world's human population, to be looking at these things (spiritual home on other planets/star systems/dimensions), and some might not do it for really deep reasons, does not necessarily mean that we all do it to feel special...or better...

But it seems to me that there will always (on forums or in public speaking) be someone/s who assume that that is why (or big partly why) you are talking/writing/sharing about it...

Frank V
16th August 2014, 18:05
Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two)

Not quite ;): the Andromeda galaxy is located in the constellation of the same name, just next to the constellation of Cassiopeia, so I guess Andromedans might come from any of the stars in the Andromeda constellation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28constellation%29

Well, the constellation as described there is a two-dimensional view and does not represent depth - read: distance from Earth. As I wrote earlier, Andromeda is a separate galaxy, approximately 2.5 million lightyears from the Milky Way, and approaching us at approximately 100 kilometers per second, or some 360'000 kilometer per hour. Cassiopeia on the other hand is still within the Milky Way and thus a lot closer to Earth - the diameter of the entire Milky Way galaxy is approximately 100'000 lightyears.

:-)

Wind
16th August 2014, 18:35
Earth is both heaven and a hell... We are co-creators in this reality and we chose to come here. These are very special times. I have been to a QHHT regression session, but my mind is so dominant that the session was not a full success and I thought that it could have been fantasy created by mind, but I do believe that many people can be hypnotized and information can be accessed from the higher mind.

I've always felt and known that I am from the stars and it has been confirmed (by Carol Clarke and others) to me that I've been at least in Orion, Pleiades, Apollonia and many other places. Especially the place Orion has always been in my mind, the three stars of Orion. I have felt longing to somewhere else and towards my real home, as a human being I feel that I am more "weaker". When a soul is old, it tends to feel weary in this world. When you have experienced so much, what is there left for you to experience any longer? I know that some souls in Avalon can relate to that feeling. I also know that I've been on Earth for a very long time and seen and experienced much torture and bloodshed. This planet has been very violent and only now it's starting to become more peaceful. Of course suffering (http://viewonbuddhism.org/4_noble_truths.html) is the most effective teacher there is... But it only acts as a temprary catalyst for spiritual growth.

I am not sad, but my life has been by a certain kind of melancholy which is perhaps coming from Mother Earth. I wish that we all get through these changes without too much of pain and find true happiness. Everyone deserves it.

Robin
16th August 2014, 18:37
Is it really hell, or perhaps a great gift of experience? Despite the fact we live in a troubled world, the many luxuries a large number of us are afforded in today's world, would make it's long enduring past of struggle and difficulty look like paradise. Maybe to eventually gain actual paradise and an advanced state of living a capable race most advance through difficulty so as to actually deserve it and appreciate it. I don't always agree with peoples claims of the seemingly inefficient system of Karma and the punishments carried out in recurring lifetimes, but I do believe that struggle, even suffering acts a greatest catalyst to growth. This reflects in my life, and my guess is to some degree is mirrored in many others. Saying this place is a hell is but a perspective to take and probably directly contributes to it on a general level, and most certainly on a personal level to anyone who takes such a position.

I agree. When I say "living-Hell" I mean walking around in this false-reality matrix that has been set up by an Archonic parasite. Earth is beautiful, and I bathe in the wonders that this planet offers every day, and I find reverie listening to and observing Natural Law operate outside of this Archonic system. There is great beauty and tranquility that exists where humans have established themselves, and I have been privileged to live among such communities. But the external world, the societal system of the masses based off of money and power, is nothing short of a living Hell.

The suffering I feel isn't necessarily an internal one, but rather an accumulation of unwanted negative, low-vibration frequencies that I'm being bombarded with by ignorant, selfish, apathetic, and rude humans. This living-Hell matrix was brought on by the collective free-will of the masses of humanity, and I do not hesitate when I say that they are to blame for this Hellish reality that operates within this current societal construct.

Sure, humans are being bombarded with an infinite amount of mind-control methods and have an unfair disadvantage because of an external E.T. influence, but that does not validate this corrupt system that was accepted by humans. Everybody has the capability of waking up and fighting the matrix, and many do, but most choose to stay in a state of ignorance, and it is because of these people the rest of humanity suffers. This to me gives righteous cause to place blame.

Sure, suffering is a good catalyst for growth, but that gives no good reason for this suffering to exist on this planet unabated.



If you don't mind me asking, was this visitation by your "cosmic" family undertaken while you were dreaming or under any other form of altered perception, or was it all as physically real as daily life occurrence? I'm particularly fascinated by such recollections that claim it happened by means solely when they were completely grounded in their senses. While I don't completely discount methods such as hypnotic regression and find them interesting, I think they are vulnerable to being fed distortions and thus not reliable, similar to many other means coming from outside ourselves and by fault of our own imaginations.

The visitation was in the physical, on a ship, face-to-face interaction. Though, they did not reveal themselves to me out of fear I would be scared, and they erased most of my memories so I would be able to cope in this false-reality. I completely agree with your feelings about hypnotic regressions, and I do not hesitate to say that my ego interfered with a regression I undertook, which I decided to do just out of curiosity. My feeling that my soul is from Procyon, which was a word that slipped out of my mouth, is therefore, speculative.

But the E.T. interaction was physical, and they did tell me many things. The main points they stressed were that my soul is not from Earth, that reincarnation is real (they told me I had one past life on Earth), and that the history of humanity told to us in books is filled with half-Truths. They expounded a bit on humanity's real history, but they only showed me enough information to steer me in the right direction on my path to Awakening.

But this is Amethyst's thread, and I do not wish to make this about me.

araucaria
16th August 2014, 19:18
Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two)

Not quite ;): the Andromeda galaxy is located in the constellation of the same name, just next to the constellation of Cassiopeia, so I guess Andromedans might come from any of the stars in the Andromeda constellation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28constellation%29

Well, the constellation as described there is a two-dimensional view and does not represent depth - read: distance from Earth. As I wrote earlier, Andromeda is a separate galaxy, approximately 2.5 million lightyears from the Milky Way, and approaching us at approximately 100 kilometers per second, or some 360'000 kilometer per hour. Cassiopeia on the other hand is still within the Milky Way and thus a lot closer to Earth - the diameter of the entire Milky Way galaxy is approximately 100'000 lightyears.

:-)
Andromeda is a constellation just like Cassiopeia, i.e. a 2D projection of a 3D star field. The distances are all there: (in light years) 97, 198, 358, 105, 502, 130, 44, 217, 598, 177, 316, 990, 1250, 2720, 10.3. For Cassiopeia, the distances given by Wikipedia are 228, 54, 99, 442, 10,000, 142, 1500, 93. Taking both constellations together, the two closest stars, at 10.3 and 44 light years are both in Andromeda.

It may well be that we have visitors from a neighbouring galaxy, but, comparing apples with apples, they are much more likely to be coming from our local area. A star at only 10.3 light years is one of the very closest, in our backyard so to speak. You would expect those folk to call in if they possibly could. :)

Frank V
16th August 2014, 19:27
Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two)

Not quite ;): the Andromeda galaxy is located in the constellation of the same name, just next to the constellation of Cassiopeia, so I guess Andromedans might come from any of the stars in the Andromeda constellation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28constellation%29

Well, the constellation as described there is a two-dimensional view and does not represent depth - read: distance from Earth. As I wrote earlier, Andromeda is a separate galaxy, approximately 2.5 million lightyears from the Milky Way, and approaching us at approximately 100 kilometers per second, or some 360'000 kilometer per hour. Cassiopeia on the other hand is still within the Milky Way and thus a lot closer to Earth - the diameter of the entire Milky Way galaxy is approximately 100'000 lightyears.

:-)

Andromeda is a constellation just like Cassiopeia, i.e. a 2D projection of a 3D star field. The distances are all there: (in light years) 97, 198, 358, 105, 502, 130, 44, 217, 598, 177, 316, 990, 1250, 2720, 10.3. For Cassiopeia, the distances given by Wikipedia are 228, 54, 99, 442, 10,000, 142, 1500, 93. Taking both constellations together, the two closest stars, at 10.3 and 44 light years are both in Andromeda.


Considering that Andromeda is 2.5 million lightyears away from the Milky Way, that last sentence is simply incorrect. If that is what Wikipedia says - I'll have to read it again in greater detail to know whether it did - then Wikipedia is wrong. But then again, that wouldn't be the first time, either. ;-)



It may well be that we have visitors from a neighbouring galaxy, but, comparing apples with apples, they are much more likely to be coming from our local area. A star at only 10.3 light years is one of the very closest, in our backyard so to speak. You would expect those folk to call in if they possibly could. :)

With quantum teleportation - or "hyperspace jumping", if you will - distances would be irrelevant as time itself is factored out. We get visitors here who aren't even from the local cluster. ;-)

Fairy Friend
16th August 2014, 19:47
I was lucky enough to find fellow travelers when I was young like you. One of them claimed to have been from Jupiter and that there was life there but he passed on 2008. I too keep this to myself and still found people I had intense bonds with. This planet is a beautiful place and worth traveling. Stonehedge, great wall of China, the grand canyon, swimming with mantas and dolphins. There's a lot to do, just leave it a better place than when you came. Some of us are quite unique. There are quite a few in your age group and one needs friends.

It sounds like you're also incline towards music and are artistic. We are entering a very creative phase. I decided to try a reading with Carol Clark myself but I am on her waiting list.

SunSea
16th August 2014, 20:49
Hi Amethyst, Whoops! Some misunderstanding here. No, I don't get the impression you are feeling/being special by expressing this. lol! I did mention I was getting off topic here(the point of your discussion). Perhaps this was not the best place to share my perspective on archontic mind control. I didn't mean to imply that this was your point of view here and I'm sorry you took it that way.

It was my way of commenting on a few things others have said here such as BlueMuffin who said, "To be quite honest, I'm of the notion these claims are fed to us as a sort of Ego-gratification, if you will, to make us feel "special" and nice and lubed up to further pursue control endeavors dressed up as the "spiritual path". This was my main point of reference that I wished to comment on and which I agree with. It is "one" aspect of this topic. In my early years on the path, I was pulled into this trap to some degree and worked my way out fortunately so I have some first hand knowledge. It would have been better to add this quote beforehand for clarity.

I don't speak of my life much with others either as my point of view is quite different and I also appreciate places like PA because others share my "weirdness" here. Yes, some will think we are being egotistical when we talk of these things about ourselves which was one point I was trying to make. I endeavor to be outside this limited thinking.

I understand and appreciate you wanting to know more about this special place for you. It would be truly wonderful to know more about these places, I agree. I would love the same. This is your topic after all and I'm a bit of a derail :loco:

Peace and Love

David Trd1
16th August 2014, 22:50
and it feeds into the disenfranchising of humanity by presenting the Pleiadeans, Cassiopeians, Orions or whomever as The Cavalry That Will Come And Save Us All ™.


I heartily agree times ten with this!!.This is the danger and many times the truth of dipping your toes unwarily into such waters,We are the cavalry,now,here....there is nothing after that.

It is a dupe to believe otherwise.

Natalia
17th August 2014, 01:28
Thank you all for sharing in this thread <3

feel free to digress, I'm ok with that.

araucaria
17th August 2014, 09:16
Not quite. :-) Cassiopeia is a star system within the Milky Way, which is the galaxy we're currently occupying. Andromeda is the name of another galaxy, and currently the one closest to the Milky Way. The Milky Way, Andromeda and the Triangulum are three separate galaxies forming a local cluster. Andromeda is closest to us, but that's a very relative term, considering that it's still some two million lightyears away from us. That means that when you look up at the night sky and you spot Andromeda, the light from Andromeda has actually already been on its way over to your eyes for two)

Not quite ;): the Andromeda galaxy is located in the constellation of the same name, just next to the constellation of Cassiopeia, so I guess Andromedans might come from any of the stars in the Andromeda constellation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28constellation%29

Well, the constellation as described there is a two-dimensional view and does not represent depth - read: distance from Earth. As I wrote earlier, Andromeda is a separate galaxy, approximately 2.5 million lightyears from the Milky Way, and approaching us at approximately 100 kilometers per second, or some 360'000 kilometer per hour. Cassiopeia on the other hand is still within the Milky Way and thus a lot closer to Earth - the diameter of the entire Milky Way galaxy is approximately 100'000 lightyears.

:-)

Andromeda is a constellation just like Cassiopeia, i.e. a 2D projection of a 3D star field. The distances are all there: (in light years) 97, 198, 358, 105, 502, 130, 44, 217, 598, 177, 316, 990, 1250, 2720, 10.3. For Cassiopeia, the distances given by Wikipedia are 228, 54, 99, 442, 10,000, 142, 1500, 93. Taking both constellations together, the two closest stars, at 10.3 and 44 light years are both in Andromeda.


Considering that Andromeda is 2.5 million lightyears away from the Milky Way, that last sentence is simply incorrect. If that is what Wikipedia says - I'll have to read it again in greater detail to know whether it did - then Wikipedia is wrong. But then again, that wouldn't be the first time, either. ;-)



It may well be that we have visitors from a neighbouring galaxy, but, comparing apples with apples, they are much more likely to be coming from our local area. A star at only 10.3 light years is one of the very closest, in our backyard so to speak. You would expect those folk to call in if they possibly could. :)

With quantum teleportation - or "hyperspace jumping", if you will - distances would be irrelevant as time itself is factored out. We get visitors here who aren't even from the local cluster. ;-)


Thank you Amethyst for letting us drift off-topic :)

Aragorn, Wikipedia is far from perfect but its imperfections do not explain every misunderstanding. I am telling you that there are two Andromedas. There is the distant galaxy you mention, which was only identified as such in the 20th century, after Hubble discovered the existence of such extragalactic objects. M31 is only called Andromeda because of its position in the Andromeda constellation, which is the group of fairly local stars next to Cassiopeia. These two naked eye constellations were so named, along with the rest, thousands of years ago by the ancient Greeks, who knew nothing about other galaxies, and would have just seen a nebulous… nebula. If you don’t trust Wiki, try this:
http://www.stargazing.net/david/constel/constel/andromeda.html


According to the myth, Perseus found Andromeda tied to a rock waiting to be eaten by a sea monster after her mother Cassiopeia had claimed that the two of them were more beautiful than the Nereids. Perseus arranges with the parents that if he rescues her he will marry her. Cassiopeia tries to renege on the deal but Andromeda insists on the marriage. When the goddess Athene places their images among the stars (and Perseus also gets a constellation), Robert Graves writes, Cassiopeia ‘for her treachery, is tied in a market-basket which, at some seasons of the year, turns upside-down so that she looks ridiculous. But Athene afterwards placed Andromeda’s image in a more honourable constellation, because she had insisted on marrying Perseus, despite her parents’ ill-faith.’ Graves comments on this myth that its source is probably Marduk who, according to Sitchin, rewrote Annunaki history (myth) wholesale in his own favour:


Andromeda’s story has probably been deduced from a Palestinian icon of the Sun-god Marduk, or his predecessor Bel, mounted on his white horse and killing the sea-monster Tiamat. This myth also formed part of Hebrew mythology: Isaiah mentions that Jehovah (Marduk) hacked Rahab in pieces with a sword (Isaiah li. 9); and according to Job x. 1 and xxvi. 12, Rahab was the Sea. In the same icon, the jeweled, naked Andromeda, standing chained to a rock, is Aphrodite, or Ishtar, or Astarte, the lecherous Sea-goddess, ‘ruler of men’. But she is not waiting to be rescued. Marduk has bound her there himself, after killing her emanation, Tiamat the sea-serpent, to prevent further mischief. In the Babylonian Creation Epic, it was she who sent the flood. Astarte, as Sea-goddess, had temples all along the Palestinian coast, and at Troy she was Hesione, ‘Queen of Asia’, whom Heracles [Hercules] is said to have rescued from another sea-monster. While obviously we do have seem to have visitors from all over, including other dimensions, when asked where they come from, they usually answer that names wouldn’t mean anything to earthlings. When you have entities coming from a whole patch of local sky from Cassiopeia to the Pleiades to Sirius to Orion, and using our names to describe their origins, you would expect Andromeda to fit into that pattern. Why do so many come from fairly close stars? Presumably because there are different levels of technology that make short-distance flights more feasible than longer ones – just like small ships were invented before big ones.

Beyond this logical explanation, I have no reason or motive to prefer either Andromeda the constellation or Andromeda the constellation galaxy; I am just intrigued that you should fail to see my point. I expect you have some documentary evidence to back up the galaxy hypothesis, but you haven’t shown us yet.

Stephanie
17th August 2014, 16:57
Here's a link to the thread you mentioned. The member who had been providing readings, Eternal One, may no longer be active.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin


Hi Amethyst. There was thread on this a few years back, someone telling people where they came from. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

Eternal one says in one of his posts....

' ...for those I have not been able to pinpoint,

you are certainly from the Angelic realms'

Frank V
17th August 2014, 17:15
It may well be that we have visitors from a neighbouring galaxy, but, comparing apples with apples, they are much more likely to be coming from our local area. A star at only 10.3 light years is one of the very closest, in our backyard so to speak. You would expect those folk to call in if they possibly could. :)

With quantum teleportation - or "hyperspace jumping", if you will - distances would be irrelevant as time itself is factored out. We get visitors here who aren't even from the local cluster. ;-)

Thank you Amethyst for letting us drift off-topic :)

Aragorn, Wikipedia is far from perfect but its imperfections do not explain every misunderstanding. I am telling you that there are two Andromedas. There is the distant galaxy you mention, which was only identified as such in the 20th century, after Hubble discovered the existence of such extragalactic objects. M31 is only called Andromeda because of its position in the Andromeda constellation, which is the group of fairly local stars next to Cassiopeia. These two naked eye constellations were so named, along with the rest, thousands of years ago by the ancient Greeks, who knew nothing about other galaxies, and would have just seen a nebulous… nebula. If you don’t trust Wiki, try this:
http://www.stargazing.net/david/constel/constel/andromeda.html


According to the myth, Perseus found Andromeda tied to a rock waiting to be eaten by a sea monster after her mother Cassiopeia had claimed that the two of them were more beautiful than the Nereids. Perseus arranges with the parents that if he rescues her he will marry her. Cassiopeia tries to renege on the deal but Andromeda insists on the marriage. When the goddess Athene places their images among the stars (and Perseus also gets a constellation), Robert Graves writes, Cassiopeia ‘for her treachery, is tied in a market-basket which, at some seasons of the year, turns upside-down so that she looks ridiculous. But Athene afterwards placed Andromeda’s image in a more honourable constellation, because she had insisted on marrying Perseus, despite her parents’ ill-faith.’ Graves comments on this myth that its source is probably Marduk who, according to Sitchin, rewrote Annunaki history (myth) wholesale in his own favour:


Andromeda’s story has probably been deduced from a Palestinian icon of the Sun-god Marduk, or his predecessor Bel, mounted on his white horse and killing the sea-monster Tiamat. This myth also formed part of Hebrew mythology: Isaiah mentions that Jehovah (Marduk) hacked Rahab in pieces with a sword (Isaiah li. 9); and according to Job x. 1 and xxvi. 12, Rahab was the Sea. In the same icon, the jeweled, naked Andromeda, standing chained to a rock, is Aphrodite, or Ishtar, or Astarte, the lecherous Sea-goddess, ‘ruler of men’. But she is not waiting to be rescued. Marduk has bound her there himself, after killing her emanation, Tiamat the sea-serpent, to prevent further mischief. In the Babylonian Creation Epic, it was she who sent the flood. Astarte, as Sea-goddess, had temples all along the Palestinian coast, and at Troy she was Hesione, ‘Queen of Asia’, whom Heracles [Hercules] is said to have rescued from another sea-monster. While obviously we do have seem to have visitors from all over, including other dimensions, when asked where they come from, they usually answer that names wouldn’t mean anything to earthlings. When you have entities coming from a whole patch of local sky from Cassiopeia to the Pleiades to Sirius to Orion, and using our names to describe their origins, you would expect Andromeda to fit into that pattern. Why do so many come from fairly close stars? Presumably because there are different levels of technology that make short-distance flights more feasible than longer ones – just like small ships were invented before big ones.

Beyond this logical explanation, I have no reason or motive to prefer either Andromeda the constellation or Andromeda the constellation galaxy; I am just intrigued that you should fail to see my point. I expect you have some documentary evidence to back up the galaxy hypothesis, but you haven’t shown us yet.

I thank you for your explaining your view more clearly. I had overlooked the fact that ancient cosmogony based upon 2-dimensional descriptions of constellations could indeed still be in use today. When someone talks to me of Andromeda, then I am naturally always assuming that they're talking of the galaxy by that name, which together with the Triangulum and the Milky Way makes up for the local cluster of galaxies. And I assume that this is what they're talking about because this is the scientifically more recent and more correct representation.

On the other hand, many testimonies from whistleblowers and contactees also do mention that we do indeed get intergalactic visitors here, and from far beyond Andromeda or Triangulum, for that matter. Some even claim to come from different universes - or at least: insofar as how humanity itself defines the word "universe". And just as there are significant differences in technology between what is known in the mainstream here on Earth and what is seen from contacts with extraterrestrial visitors, I presume there are equally big differences in technology between these various extraterrestrial civilizations. According to whistleblowers, even the secret space program uses many types of advanced propulsion systems on their alien reproduction vehicles - some use traversable wormholes, others use an electrogravitic propulsion mechanism, yet others use a warp drive, et al.

That all said...

:focus:

:-)

Natalia
20th October 2014, 01:02
A moment that I have been waiting for...

Tonight (can't sleep) I have had plasma beings and Cassiopeia (which Carol Clark said was my origin) on my mind...and I had a feeling to search for them...on wikipidia I had a feeling to click on every object listed and in doing so I will find a picture that I was drawn to before (the reading by Carol)...so I clicked and finally as soon as I saw it, I got butterflies in my stomach, and an ache...this was the one...and how I know...is because about a year ago, I was looking at astronomy pictures on my phone at work (I have loved this since as I was a child, looking at the stars and planets, etc)...and I have at times felt drawn to supernovas...well this particular picture really got me when I first found it, it was amazing and had one of the biggest impacts on me in my whole life of seeing these pics of the cosmos...it was in Cassiopeia! I remember that Carol Clark said that if I look at the constellation of Cassiopeia I will know what one is my star home

Omg! It is this one! (I strongly feel, or, it is closest to my home star?)

Just wow (I just looked at the picture again and got this powerful burning and tingling in my gut, this is it! *giggle* :)

SN 1572

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Tycho-supernova-xray.jpg

Natalia
20th October 2014, 10:40
There isn't much information on the net about Cassiopeians, but these 2 seem to resonate with me

This is exactly how Carol Clark described my home world

"Cassiopeia: a very gentle, harmonious system; explore variations of love and gratitude; hold tremendous compassion, called to help Earth; not a common system to align with."
http://bigpicturequestions.com/tag/cassiopeia

This could be "me" and my soul family

"The Laquinon species are non-planetary, as their planet was destroyed long ago. There is still a powerful light-grid where this planet used to be, and it is used by this species as a Galactic Archive Records Library. Like braids of rainbow light and geometric structures, where their cities used to be are now complex resonant pillars with multidimensional information lattices woven throughout them, and deep networks running through the interior of the planet's lightbody.

These species can enter Physical or Etheric Form at will, having learned how to vibrate their bodies into higher and lower density states. These teachings are shared and used by highly-developed beings of other species within the Galactic Council, and are of course open to anyone within the Galactic Federation of species to explore and study if they wish to do so.

The Laquinon are Elders in the Galactic Council, as their species has been around since a very early period in our Galaxy's development.

Recent Update:

I have received confirmation that the constellation Cassiopeia is a primary reference and communication portal for this species. Also, it is highly likely that the remnant of a supernova around Cassiopeia A is the actual location where their primary planet used to reside before the star exploded. The radio frequencies being released in this area are very extreme, even for a supernova."

http://adamapollo.info/img/galactic/galactic-laquinon.jpg
http://adamapollo.info/galactic_network/galactic_council/

darren
21st October 2014, 21:02
Hi Amethyst,glad you feel you are getting/found some answers :) I too have been thinking alot (everyday lol) about what Carol said ,still don't have a clearer picture yet though! One of the confusing things she said,was that i'm not a starseed,i'm something more than that! No idea what she meant.It is a little frustrating not knowing certain things!

darren
21st October 2014, 21:11
Here's a link to the thread you mentioned. The member who had been providing readings, Eternal One, may no longer be active.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin


Hi Amethyst. There was thread on this a few years back, someone telling people where they came from. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.


Interestingly i also asked for a reading on this thread and got the answer of Andromeda/Orion.And reading the info on Andromedans,it did feel like that i could have been from there but i wasn't sure if it was just my mind/ego talking.Maybe i should take another look in that direction!?

Fairy Friend
21st October 2014, 21:35
I received the Carol Clarke reading recently myself and found I am from the Ariuga system possibly Cappella or M 35 M36 M37 or M38.

We're practically neighbors.
Hi neighbor.

Natalia
22nd October 2014, 02:03
Hi Amethyst,glad you feel you are getting/found some answers :) I too have been thinking alot (everyday lol) about what Carol said ,still don't have a clearer picture yet though! One of the confusing things she said,was that i'm not a starseed,i'm something more than that! No idea what she meant.It is a little frustrating not knowing certain things!

ahhhhh! :) (I have an idea, but doesn't mean that it is true...)



Here's a link to the thread you mentioned. The member who had been providing readings, Eternal One, may no longer be active.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin


Hi Amethyst. There was thread on this a few years back, someone telling people where they came from. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.


Interestingly i also asked for a reading on this thread and got the answer of Andromeda/Orion.And reading the info on Andromedans,it did feel like that i could have been from there but i wasn't sure if it was just my mind/ego talking.Maybe i should take another look in that direction!?

I don't usually like to point out when I don't believe in something that someone is doing "spiritually" and very much most often I keep quiet about it, but, for me, I did not see/feel that that person could accurately find someone's true star origin/home for most people using that method at the time - I could be wrong and I'm not saying that he is not intuitive in other ways and this is nothing against the person who I know nothing about...

And, he only has listed the most new agey popular star systems on there...mine was not on there...and neither was Fairy Friends...but perhaps we have visited places on that list...?...)

Natalia
22nd October 2014, 02:10
I received the Carol Clarke reading recently myself and found I am from the Ariuga system possibly Cappella or M 35 M36 M37 or M38.

We're practically neighbors.
Hi neighbor.

Hi Fairy Friend! :)

I want to look up your home system and those places now!

Fairy Friend
22nd October 2014, 02:41
Auriga is like a big Pentagon in the sky and Capella is a very bright star in it. Next to the constellation Perseus. Which I think is next to Cassiopeia. Capella is actually four stars too big suns and two little suns rotating around each other.

Fairy Friend
22nd October 2014, 03:50
By the way, that's a very happening area of space........ I'm just saying.

Natalia
22nd October 2014, 04:16
By the way, that's a very happening area of space........ I'm just saying.

hehehehe :)

darren
22nd October 2014, 17:12
I don't usually like to point out when I don't believe in something that someone is doing "spiritually" and very much most often I keep quiet about it, but, for me, I did not see/feel that that person could accurately find someone's true star origin/home for most people using that method at the time - I could be wrong and I'm not saying that he is not intuitive in other ways and this is nothing against the person who I know nothing about...

And, he only has listed the most new agey popular star systems on there...mine was not on there...and neither was Fairy Friends...but perhaps we have visited places on that list...?...)

I have no idea how he/she came up with the locations.At the time i just saw it as a bit of fun.It was more the description of Andromedans that got me intrigued,but as i said,could just be wishful thinking on my part! The mystery continues lol

Natalia
22nd October 2014, 19:26
I don't usually like to point out when I don't believe in something that someone is doing "spiritually" and very much most often I keep quiet about it, but, for me, I did not see/feel that that person could accurately find someone's true star origin/home for most people using that method at the time - I could be wrong and I'm not saying that he is not intuitive in other ways and this is nothing against the person who I know nothing about...

And, he only has listed the most new agey popular star systems on there...mine was not on there...and neither was Fairy Friends...but perhaps we have visited places on that list...?...)


I have no idea how he/she came up with the locations.At the time i just saw it as a bit of fun.It was more the description of Andromedans that got me intrigued,but as i said,could just be wishful thinking on my part! The mystery continues lol

Well I took it quite seriously when you mentioned it as I wanted you to know the truth about your home...and was going by my own feeling to share that but it could have been wrong. You will find it, I don't know where it is...Perhaps you have been to Andromeda?...

darren
22nd October 2014, 21:04
Well I took it quite seriously when you mentioned it as I wanted you to know the truth about your home...and was going by my own feeling to share that but it could have been wrong. You will find it, I don't know where it is...Perhaps you have been to Andromeda?...

Yeah perhaps i've been there! I know a couple of hynotherapists who are friends of the family,so may ask one of them to do a past life regression.It would be interesting to see if the same sort of info would present it's self,as from the reading from Carol.Not sure how accurate something like that can be,but may be worth exploring....especially if i can get done for free :D