How Many Advanced Extraterrestials Die

[Omni]

This subject has come up in my ET contact. I'll get right to the point. They said the leading cause of death for advanced extraterrestrials is suicide(among the service to truth group)... Might sound crazy but hear me out... Advanced ETs have natural ways of regenerating their bodies so they do not age nearly as fast as us(or age at all past a certain point if they choose). Also they have superior evolutionary traits which lead to slower aging as well.. No advanced ET is haggard and dysfunctional like some of us at like 100+ years old... Main point being advanced ETs live as long as they want to, there indeed is a fountain of youth.... They do not have heart attacks, they do not get cancer. They can cure every ailment, they have ways of keeping cellular structure well.

I was told in many cases of ETs, once you have lived long enough, you are just ready for a fresh start(reincarnation), ready to experience it all as brand new again. You know pretty much everything you wish to at that point, and have experienced practically everything there is to experience within reason...

What they said happens is they simply lay down and lower the consciousness down to asleep, and take the soul out of the body, give a technological afterlife, and they are born into suitable genetics for their soul(suitable in terms for self, and soul mate/family)in a newborn.

In saying all that I am saying the service to truth ones die by suicide typically. Maybe don't let standard NLP of the word suicide effect you as much(if I can estimate the NLP of the word may be different than the concepts I am conveying)...

I'm not sure how reptilians die, I'll ask Simon that in his thread and update if he answers... I'm not sure if Greys even die. If they do it is after an extremely long time. Maybe some of the Greys that are emotional(the original greys perhaps who were created by my estimations, by nuclear fallout) die sooner. But the more synthetic greys who have almost plastic-like skin that doesn't age much if at all, they live an extremely long time by my estimations... Maybe the leading cause of death among greys is reptiles killing them.. Who knows how their hierarchy and system works. Maybe they are more enlightened. I am aware of the concepts of "dark enlightened" which some of the more dark beings have... If anyone knows how the dark side of beings dies mostly feel free to post... I'm curious..

This goes with the normal disclaimer of telepathic contact. Any being can be impersonated telepathically exactly how they communicate... The ones claiming to tell me this info was from an anonymous telepathic source claiming to be ET. I found it credible so that's why I post it..

[shadowstalker]

This a very kewl subject, i would still love to an interview with you maybe about this particular subject only.

[johnf]

It is pretty hard to separate the word suicide with it's negative emotional baggage.
We do have traditions on this planet of conscious death.
Perhaps the idea of leaving when the life is complete is what you are getting at?

John

[giovonni]

i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ... :)

[Agape]

If they get stuck on Earth , sure they have to die some day ..from grief or otherwise .

[Agape]

i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ... :)

''And you know that I know that you know that I know that those are the words of Confucius on that wall ..and he said that no real man touches his sward unless he's ready to die by it '' ( PuYi , The Last Emperor )


No one dies unless their days and hours were fulfilled . That's my ET faith though.


:hug:

[Omni]

Perhaps the idea of leaving when the life is complete is what you are getting at?
Yes, exactly.


i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ... :)

One experience I had, I was given allegedly the chakra energies of a grey that had lived a long time. It seems after some time the chakras start to diminish and become very dim. Maybe that is not age though, and is another factor, like their soul's, genetics, etc..

[Robin]

I had a bit of trouble fully understanding your claim, Omniverse. Are you suggesting:

1.) Many E.T.s commit suicide by placing their souls in another similar body to continue spiritual transcendence, kind of like trading an old, dusty body for a new one?

or

2.) Many E.T.s commit suicide because they feel they have learned everything that can possibly be learned and are simply bored, so they wipe their soul memory and start back at level 1 of spiritual evolution, so to speak?

And are you suggesting that they never commit suicide out of melancholy?

[Omni]

I had a bit of trouble fully understanding your claim, Omniverse. Are you suggesting:

1.) Many E.T.s commit suicide by placing their souls in another similar body to continue spiritual transcendence, kind of like trading an old, dusty body for a new one?

or

2.) Many E.T.s commit suicide because they feel they have learned everything that can possibly be learned and are simply bored, so they wipe their soul memory and start back at level 1 of spiritual evolution, so to speak?
More 1. They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again. And like john said it's more like their life is complete. I'm not sure if any ETs do not have amnesia from life to life. I found that a potential flaw in universal design if beings are born with amnesia every lifetime even in the most advanced races. And possibly a real type of ascension, goign to a race that does not have amnesia... It's possible they make people aware of themselves and the soul does not have amnesia for some of them though... It's possible they have amnesia like us just live to the point to where amnesia from life to life is preferable..


And are you suggesting that they never commit suicide out of melancholy?
No advanced ET commits suicide because of negative reasons by my understanding. Their lives are good enough to where they never commit suicide in ways humans typically do.

[Robin]

They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again.

I still don't understand what you mean by this...

When I think of reincarnation, I think of a soul transferring into another body to undergo another lifetime, usually with amnesia. The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment. Like a human's body dying, and the soul staying on Earth and transferring into a completely different body, perhaps from a different culture, gender, and race on the other side of the world.

How can an E.T. learn "everything new again" without amnesia? It's just a new body and the same memories...

[Omni]

They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again.

I still don't understand what you mean by this...

When I think of reincarnation, I think of a soul transferring into another body to undergo another lifetime, usually with amnesia. The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment. Like a human's body dying, and the soul staying on Earth and transferring into a completely different body, perhaps from a different culture, gender, and race on the other side of the world.

How can an E.T. learn "everything new again" without amnesia? It's just a new body and the same memories...

If they don't have amnesia, they wouldn't be learning things as new. But the ones with amnesia would be. I'm not sure if both exist. Maybe all races have amnesia since birth.


The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment.
Not a bad philosophy but I find it limiting. Once the soul has all lessons one can work on character and also specifics/energetics of the soul, honing what you want to be. After that there is no purpose for growth of the soul, and it becomes more about experience and manifestation. As well as keeping your soul 'fit' kind of(meaning keeping the qualities you want).

[Jovian]

My energy overall is perhaps more aligned with many lifetimes spent elsewhere, as the concept of an unpleasant physical 'old age' has always seemed like something we weren't meant to experience. ...I have a strong sense of many other lifetimes, yet I feel as if I manage to depart before having to spend time being incapacitated as an 'old' person.

I've always imagined I'd just will myself to die when I was ready, rather than be in some helpless, less than fully-abled physical body for years before death.

As well, the short length of current human lifetimes has always seemed bizarre to me. I always felt more right about the biblical accounts of people living for centuries...or longer.

...I'm sure there are others here who feel similarly.

[GoodETxSG]

If this be so we must be speaking of a certain group with a certain belief system (IMHO). We would have to be speaking with IN a framework to limit the evolution of a species physically and spiritually to a point where they follow this path. We are held within the confines of Space/Time within Dimensions, Densities (W/Alternate Realities/Multi-verses parallel to those).

Most of the Physical Entities we deal with that ARE from our own or neighboring Densities understand that there are beings and existences above and below their own. They understand the true nature of everything which is that it is based on Vibration and Consciousness, and the Conscious Manipulation of Vibrations (Vibrations of a Spectrum we are only aware of a very small ribbon of...).

They being "Advanced" and of a higher consciousness, vibration and having an understanding that all is connected by a vibratory field that they can consciously interact with and can manipulate their vibrations to "ascend" to a higher frequency/vibration to phase from the lower one to a higher one why would they need to do something so ritualistic as "Turning Off Their Container" (End their fulfilled life) to set their consciousness free?

Those choosing to incarnate into a lower Density body/life without their memories on a "Star-seed Mission" of course may be a different story, though this I believe is more of an exception than a rule... After experiencing one lifetime on a prison planet like this one would probably be enough to deter them from "Signing Up" for that type of mission again.

I am respectfully saying my experiences/interactions have somehow departed unto me a slightly different ET/ED understanding. IMHO as always... (There are many groups out there and many theological views as to what "Their" part is in this layered cake and even some "ED/ET's" have fooled them selves that they are "Higher" Being's and are Service to Others while truly being Service to Self... Just like there are many Humans who have the same delusions. We can convince our selves pretty quickly that we are "special" or Elite some times with all the "Tricksters" out there, the Governments fell for the "Trickster God Model" already (Broken Secret Gov & Alien Treaties for Tech/Human Experiment Trade etc...).

There really are many beings from many "places" to keep straight and contend with. It is far more complicated than most would think.

I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

[Omni]

I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

Would you be able to say how you think advanced ETs die if you think my OP is inaccurate? I'm curious how you think they die.

[GoodETxSG]

In my one time and brief response,

Relative to the Being we are discussing and their current level of Vibrational Development...

Beings Physical Bodies are killed in accidents and conflicts in their vibrational solid state, no argument on that. They are not caught up in the same incarnation cycle we are and are able to re-incarnate into another body within that reality and retain their memory of past experiences/lessons.

For some reason some of these beings choose to incarnate into a lower vibrational existence on a pilgrimage or mission as a “Star-seed”. I would think that after one lifetime of coming back for a mission on a planet like ours would detir them from signing up for further ones after their assignment is completed.

There is also the beings on every layer it would seem that as they get toward the top of the Vibrational Frequency of their Densities Spectrum they would then have the ability to Consciously adjust their physical vibration to match and then “Blink Out” of the perception of those observing them from their previous Density.

This is how it was shared with me and that it becomes exponentially so the higher you go vibrationally. So it is more so and known the higher you go. It is possible though unlikely on the consciousness level we are breaking into just now as a species (For a long time for some like those from Tibet/Rainbow Bodies).





I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

Would you be able to say how you think advanced ETs die if you think my OP is inaccurate? I'm curious how you think they die.

[Omni]

They are not caught up in the same incarnation cycle we are and are able to re-incarnate into another body within that reality and retain their memory of past experiences/lessons.

So basically you agree that with their physical bodies, they die by choice, if one is to word it that way i guess in that terms it wouldnt be dying so much as just the body dying... Suicide isn't the best term...

Also how do you suggest they keep all their memories? I do not believe the soul can retain a life of memories acutely by my understandings of it and observations... What you are saying it would seem they would need to implant all memories into their new physical body to retain all of that. I'm not sure that is what they do. And are they infants? Or fully grown? It seems it would be annoying to be an infant.... I could see some imperfections there..

One thing I have learned is every universal mechanic is as perfect as it can be. So you can figure out the end game of the universe by logic if your logic is good enough.. One could see it as 'perfect', to be remembering who you are from lifetime to lifetime. I could also see it not being that way in a perfect 'design' so to say when it comes to living so long you would rather experience it all brand new again... So I'm on the fence about that. I do believe that 80 years is not long enough to be perfect really. Although perfection is subjective of course.

[GoodETxSG]

They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

[Omni]

They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

I'm not so sure our souls can retain memory like our brains can. I'm not sure you are accurate there. And you didn't answer, are they infants in their new bodies or do they grow the full body??

It is very possible every past life case of full memories was due to covert technology. They keep track of all our thoughts and life situations from life to life etc so it wouldn't nec. be a delusion... I think you can energetically feel out details in the soul if they are imprinted with enough depth, but things like pictures etc I do not believe are within the soul... I think it is more energetic.

[GoodETxSG]

They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

I'm not so sure our souls can retain memory like our brains can. I'm not sure you are accurate there. And you didn't answer, are they infants in their new bodies or do they grow the full body??

It is very possible every past life case of full memories was due to covert technology. They keep track of all our thoughts and life situations from life to life etc so it wouldn't nec. be a delusion... I think you can energetically feel out details in the soul if they are imprinted with enough depth, but things like pictures etc I do not believe are within the soul... I think it is more energetic.

Why wouldn't it be possible? Are we really in a place to judge what is and is not possible in the Cosmos at this point as a species?

Even within the Break Away Civilizations and Secret Space Programs and all that has been learned and left unknown I would answer that question myself as... No.

There is no way of KNOWING is there? I have seen the mental/spiritual/vibratory "Tech" of who We/I dealt with and no matter who we are, we are susceptible to dis-info.

As for the question... There are as many groups of beings with protocols and technologies out there and individuals with free will as there are answers to that question... A key point is that not all beings experience time. If they are from our space/time they may not experience time the way we do nor do they have the biological life cycle of being "infant, child, adult, elder and so on".

But I assumed we were talking about "Advanced". Maybe some time needs to be spent on the term "Advanced" and what we are considering advanced. Just Technologically Advanced a little more than us and interacting with us or the ones that are Advanced in the true sense of the word. Some of what we would consider "Advanced Aliens" are considered the "Scurvy" of the Galaxy.

Anyway, ty for the conversation... I'd like to see some others speak on the subject.

Disclaimer: Remember, as I said this is info imparted to me while in a program and outside of a program dealing with this issue (As my previous posted Threads probably indicate)... They are not a part of my belief system. We were taught not to get caught up and loose yourself in the data. That is very hard when you loose sense of reality as it is being deconstructed and reconstructed before your eyes using vibratory and consciousness based technology.

I believe that is it... Someone else have any thoughts?

[Omni]

Why wouldn't it be possible? Are we really in a place to judge what is and is not possible in the Cosmos at this point as a species?

I'm not aware I said anything was impossible. I'm confused what made you say this.


If they are from our space/time they may not experience time the way we do nor do they have the biological life cycle of being "infant, child, adult, elder and so on".
I'm a firm believer in time. I think all beings who experience life, are involved in time. I agree they may experience it differently, but they have a linear life in the cosmos is what I mean. you didn't really answer the question though. Are their new bodies babies or fully grown? This is the biggest problem I can find if no amnesia life to life... And wouldn't things get a bit boring after a while? Say you had been experiencing the universe for 50,000 years continuously without a new life. How would that be eventually? I'd think you would have to resort to synthetic means to stay interested in much after a long time...

And I can only go on what I have observed. I haven't observed pictures from my soul. I do believe we can logically deduce pictures from soul energetics though.

[GoodETxSG]

Why wouldn't it be possible? Are we really in a place to judge what is and is not possible in the Cosmos at this point as a species?

I'm not aware I said anything was impossible. I'm confused what made you say this.

I said that is response to your quote:
"I'm not so sure our souls can retain memory like our brains can. I'm not sure you are accurate there. And you didn't answer, are they infants in their new bodies or do they grow the full body??

It is very possible every past life case of full memories was due to covert technology. They keep track of all our thoughts and life situations from life to life etc so it wouldn't nec. be a delusion... I think you can energetically feel out details in the soul if they are imprinted with enough depth, but things like pictures etc I do not believe are within the soul... I think it is more energetic."


If they are from our space/time they may not experience time the way we do nor do they have the biological life cycle of being "infant, child, adult, elder and so on".
I'm a firm believer in time. I think all beings who experience life, are involved in time. I agree they may experience it differently, but they have a linear life in the cosmos is what I mean. (Time/Space - Space/Time are illusions, our minds can't wrap around the concepts, the hardware & software won't process it... Yet are we placing possibilities on what we cannot fathom?) you didn't really answer the question though. Are their new bodies babies or fully grown? (I FULLY answered the question...) This is the biggest problem I can find if no amnesia life to life... And wouldn't things get a bit boring after a while? (That is what Ascension to the higher vibratory Densities is supposed to be all about, different level of experiences)... Say you had been experiencing the universe for 50,000 years continuously without a new life. How would that be eventually? I'd think you would have to resort to synthetic means to stay interested in much after a long time... (YES, I am the first to say that would suck... sounds like being stuck in a cosmic toilet bowl for eternity, good thing that is not how it is said to work.)

And I can only go on what I have observed. I haven't observed pictures from my soul. I do believe we can logically deduce pictures from soul energetics though.

I too ONLY go with WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED and EXPERIENCED... That is what we should go off of and not off of crazy second hand stories and hear say... Keep up with chasing your truth at your speed. Like I have said before we are all floating around in our own reality bubbles. We barely understand Consciousness let alone these other concepts which are far less important to us at the moment. Consciousness and our ability to expand it and open more of the subconscious mind to our waking existence will help us fix the issues on this little planet that for now keep us all so separated from the answers to these other questions we have. IMHO as always...

K, that is about as far as I think I can go on the topic right now. Thanks again for the post.

[Robin]

I would definitely disagree with you on this topic, Omniverse.

There really isn't anything that I would disagree with concerning Corey's assessment. There are some things that I would like to add, however.

Based on my research and observations, it does seem that there is a spiritual progression written into the fabric of the cosmos which all souls climb, like the rungs of a ladder (think: Freemason Jacob's Ladder). Some people call these dimensions, but I prefer to call them Densities.

If I'm not mistaken, I recall that you do not "believe" in the Densities that make up spiritual progression. To me it makes a whole lot of sense on a quantum level. Taken from Mark Passio's presentation on Natural Law:

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Think of the three strait, parallel lines as being Truth. The three colored wavelengths (red, green, and blue) represent the perceptions of three different souls. The red wavelength is a slow vibration that does not align with the Truth as much as the blue vibration, which is aligned with the Truth a lot more. This is indicative of how often the colored lines touch the strait white lines.

As a soul progresses and aligns itself with Truth by living WITH Natural Law, it accumulates a higher vibration that touches the white strait line much more often. When it reaches a certain frequency, it "ascends" to the next Density or evolves into a new state of being, where it learns new lessons. It's frequency matches the Density that has a prerequisite vibration for the soul to enter.

The levels are called "Densities" because vibration has everything to do with mass/volume. The third Density, which is what many claim Earth humans are in, would be considered a LOW density, because most people do not align themselves with Truth at a high rate. Even those who do align themselves with Truth are still in Kindergarten compared to advanced E.T.s. Earth human souls are extremely dense, because their awareness is compacted in a very tight box (mass/volume), so to speak.

Advanced E.T. races, say, from the sixth Density, are at a much higher vibration. They would be represented as the blue wavelength, because they align themselves with Natural Law much more than those on a lower Density. The blue line hits the horizontal white line (Truth) much more frequently because they are molding themselves with the Truth to the point where they are almost indistinguishable to it.

The goal of the soul is to reach the point where the colored line (wavelength) vibrates at such a high frequency where it is completely indistinguishable to the Truth, and has melted into the fabric of the universe. The souls has reached the destination of being one with the universe, instead of a fractal of the whole.

The lower the Density Unit Number, the more "dense" a soul is because of twisted perceptions. The higher the Density Unit Number, the less "dense" a soul is because of a lack of perceptions.

That being said, my experience, research, and observations suggest that advanced E.T.s have conquered death. When their body (physical vehicle) dies, they get a new body that looks exactly like their damaged one. Or if they prefer, they get a different body that suits their preferences. But nonetheless, they retain ALL of their memories, and simply get a new body to continue learning lessons in their current Density.

When an advanced E.T., say, from the 4th Density has learned all of the lessons 4th Grade offers (4th Density), their high vibration fits into a grade that is conducive for the higher vibration. They move to the 5th Grade because their soul is vibrating with a high frequency because they aligned themselves with Truth. The 5th Density offers a variety of new lessons for them to acknowledge, understand, and grow from. And up, up, up they go until they become one with the universe.

Just like a 4th grader on Earth cannot enter the 5th grade without prerequisite knowledge and understanding, the Laws of the universe disallow a soul to progress without learning the necessary lessons.

They are so advanced that it is unheard of to have memories wiped clean. Third Density is a special case because it is the toughest frequency to match. A soul must reincarnate with amnesia to learn new lessons. But advanced E.T.s do not reincarnate...they just switch bodies when their meat suit is damaged or they want a different body to appeal to their needs and desires.

I have also been told that E.T.s can CHOOSE when they want to "ascend" because they can acknowledge when they learned the necessary lessons, so they move up to the next Density when they feel they are ready. This is very different to Earth humans who have no idea how this all works, and will most likely "ascend" without consciously understanding why. But it's because they aligned themselves with Truth.

Concerning "starseeds," I think that this is also a special case. I would bet that most of these E.T. souls coming in to volunteer (much like a 5th grader volunteering their time to tutor 4th graders), do so out of kindness. But what most people do not think about is that these E.T. souls are also doing this for the sake of their own spiritual evolution.

Just like a 5th grader tutors a 4th grader because it makes them look good to their teachers, and they get rewarded with special benefits compared to other 5th graders. E.T. souls most likely get a "boost" in their own spiritual evolution, because experiencing the LOW vibration of a third Density planet probably offers them IMMENSE understanding at their higher Density life.

Kind of like a college student going abroad to immerse themselves with a culture, they learn SO MUCH more from the interaction and going out in the field than staying inside their university and memorizing a book. Experiencing a different culture gives them a greater awareness and understanding and alignment with Truth.

These starseeds/indigos/wanderers most likely get a spiritual boost, so when they leave this lifetime on Earth, they snap back into their real bodies in the higher Density and are ready to move on to the next grade (Density).

I feel that I could write a whole book about this...:)

[Omni]

I would definitely disagree with you on this topic, Omniverse.

There really isn't anything that I would disagree with concerning Corey's assessment. There are some things that I would like to add, however.
I'm not sure how. He said basically the same thing I did except his idea is they know who they are life to life. Mine is it could be either way...




If I'm not mistaken, I recall that you do not "believe" in the Densities that make up spiritual progression. To me it makes a whole lot of sense on a quantum level.
I think the densities are one of the biggest works of disinformation out there in the new age personally. If it is not real, they used lots of correlating things in an ingenius way. They know the micro/macrocosmic nature of the universe and associated them with chakras. If it is real, there is interwoven within the Ra material disinformation about densities IMO.

Can you give even a shred of scientific evidence of the densities? I'd like to see it. If there was higher and lower densities you'd think we could observe such things by observing matter in other areas.

I also am not sure about the whole "higher frequency" concepts. I'm not sure if the highest frequencies of mind, is what you would even want. And I doubt that such is really an apex of consciousness.. Also, truth does not make your mind a higher frequency by my experiences, maybe temporarily but you will return to your normal idle brainwaves eventually.... It does have effects on the soul though..

Is love truly a higher frequency than fear? I'd like to know that. I mean in neuroscience not new age beliefs. I have had some very high frequency fear put into me synthetically before.


Taken from Mark Passio's presentation on Natural Law:
Are you saying Mark Passio believes in densities? Or you just took the image from Mark Passio and are writing your own version based on his ideas? I can't view the image, too small :(


Just like a 4th grader on Earth cannot enter the 5th grade without prerequisite knowledge and understanding, the Laws of the universe disallow a soul to progress without learning the necessary lessons.

Isn't 4d some earth ascension thing? And not individual? How would you explain planetary ascension? What causes it?

[Robin]

I think the densities are one of the biggest works of disinformation out there in the new age personally.

I agree. But isn't there disinformation in every facet of the Truth movement...?


Can you give even a shred of scientific evidence of the densities? I'd like to see it. If there was higher and lower densities you'd think we could observe such things by observing matter in other areas.

Yes, I can. Look at a radio and how it functions. There are many stations tuned to different frequencies. But a radio can only tune into one frequency for it to function properly. But that does not mean the other stations are not there. Just like a radio has higher frequencies, a human can only pick up on one at a time. Our five-senses limit us to only pick up on the frequencies the radio puts out, but that does not mean that there aren't higher frequencies we cannot access.

On an evolutionary level, wolves have evolved the capability of hearing higher frequencies than humans. This is only one example, but a simple one that illustrates that evolution does work when it comes to the capability of being grounded in a new state of being. The ancestors of wolves were not able to pick up on high frequencies, and therefore, operated on a different level with different behavior depending on their surroundings.

On a spiritual level, it makes sense that an intelligent, self-aware race can evolve the capability of operating on a higher frequency, but first they must learn the necessary lessons to be able to. Metaphorically, in order for a person to hear a high frequency that a radio puts out, they need to acquire the necessary traits to do so. Like a wolf evolves advanced ears to hear prey, a human evolves a higher awareness by aligning to the Truth. Like a wolf evolves the advanced hearing capacity to be fit in its environment, a human aligns itself with Truth to develop the capacity to be fit in its environment. Just like a wolf evolves to a new state of being and interacting with its environment differently, a human evolves into a new state of being and interacts with its environment differently.

It's all written into the fabric of biology.


Is love truly a higher frequency than fear?

Yes, because Love is operating in alignment with Natural Law. Love is also written into the fabric of the universe, and this is speaking scientifically. I also dislike New Age crap, but this CAN be explained scientifically. There have been experiments where a beautiful tone was played to water, which turned into beautiful, functional snowflakes, and angry tones being played to water that turned into mis-shaped, dysfunctional flakes. Which snowflake do you think would achieve its purpose, that is, to fall from the sky at a rate conducive to the natural climate?


Are you saying Mark Passio believes in densities? Or you just took the image from Mark Passio and are writing your own version based on his ideas?

I do not know how Mark feels about the Density system. I only used that picture because it illustrated my point.


Isn't 4d some earth ascension thing? And not individual? How would you explain planetary ascension? What causes it?

Because humans are tied with the planet they are born on, and their mood, behavior, and actions correlate with the mood, behavior, and actions of the planet. Humans share a collective consciousness, which can also be explained by science. If people are in a constant state of fear and anxiety, then Mother Earth will produce weather patterns that match that state of mind. If humans are aligned with the Truth, then the planet will also align itself with the Truth. Humans are like the cells of the Earth who are fractal representations of the entity's personality.

[Omni]

I think the densities are one of the biggest works of disinformation out there in the new age personally.

I agree. But isn't there disinformation in every facet of the Truth movement...?
Pretty much...


Yes, I can. Look at a radio and how it functions. There are many stations tuned to different frequencies. But a radio can only tune into one frequency for it to function properly. But that does not mean the other stations are not there. Just like a radio has higher frequencies, a human can only pick up on one at a time. Our five-senses limit us to only pick up on the frequencies the radio puts out, but that does not mean that there aren't higher frequencies we cannot access.
I don't see that as evidence for densities though. Other dimensions surely exist. The densities are in microcosms and macrocosms yes. But that is not enough to make them credible to me.


Yes, because Love is operating in alignment with Natural Law. Love is also written into the fabric of the universe, and this is speaking scientifically. I also dislike New Age crap, but this CAN be explained scientifically.
That still doesn't answer the question though. Fear is woven into the nature and fabric of the universe as well. All emotions are.

As for it being a higher frequency, where did you find that information? I have never seen a neuroscience document saying that higher frequency things are the good things, and lower frequency things are the bad things. In fact I am going to contact a neuroscientist of some sort to ask that question....


There have been experiments where a beautiful tone was played to water, which turned into beautiful, functional snowflakes, and angry tones being played to water that turned into mis-shaped, dysfunctional flakes. Which snowflake do you think would achieve its purpose, that is, to fall from the sky at a rate conducive to the natural climate?
Our thoughts and energies no doubt effect our surroundings.

By your philosophy humans are way off course. 99.99999% of the world is delusional. lol :(

Enjoying the conversation though. Thanks.