Asking for your help

[Natalia]

Ok guys, I am going to just come out and ask for help. I see and feel the warning signs and I said that if I need to ask for help, I will. I have been going through a stage of depression and I don't want it to get worse.

I'm not sure what it is, but I feel like I need some extra special help, that is not just to do with love (though that is very nice :) and it is all that I need sometimes) but an opportunity maybe...I don't know exactly...

I need hope for the future - I really need this.

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...

[Omni]

My ET contacts told me earth will eventually be a utopia. I believed that before they told me such... Eventually we will not have wars, heinous crime, etc. If earth was destined for another reset(apocalypse) they wouldn't be giving as much attention as they are(ETs).

Maybe just have faith inside that earth will become utopia. Maybe that will help? Maybe not. I'm not sure I'm good at inspirational talks. hehe :|

[Frank V]

Ok guys, I am going to just come out and ask for help. I see and feel the warning signs and I said that if I need to ask for help, I will. I have been going through a stage of depression and I don't want it to get worse.

I'm not sure what it is, but I feel like I need some extra special help, that is not just to do with love (though that is very nice :) and it is all that I need sometimes) but an opportunity maybe...I don't know exactly...

I need hope for the future - I really need this.

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...

What you need to do, are two things...


Firstly, you have to know what it is that you want, and you have to be sure that this is what you really do want.



Secondly, you need to have faith that Source will provide it for you. You don't have to pray for it, because then you are disempowering yourself. You have to know that it will be given to you, and have faith in - i.e. believe in - that knowledge.


Then, when you're ready, you will have it. :-)

[wnlight]

You know that we all love you, Amethyst. This group will probably give you a lot of advise, but perhaps you should seek professional advise. Depression is nothing to sneeze at.

With that said, have you been successful with meditation? Have you been in communication with your higher self? Try asking for a challenging new project to engage your mind and your emotions. We could help with ideas, but your own spirit knows you best and will nudge you towards something good - if you ask.

Please remember that you are not alone.

[johnf]

I asked a similar thing on this forum a couple of times before.
My goals are to cultivate as much awareness as I can in this life, and share it with others.
The best thing i received was, you will need a guide, at least to a certain point.
What that means to me is, I need to choose some specific tools, and find at least one person who has gone farther ahead with those tools than I.
I have refined my goal to include presence in my body, and the full feeling of my emotions.
I have found a group that can help me with that, and I get certain help from them.
That is what works for me.

If you were to share what sort of tools, or paths seem to work for you folks can share better something that might help you.

John

[vje2]

Amethyst
Not so long ago, I was in the same situation you are currently in and like Aragorn said, you must KNOW that whatever it is that you need, the Creator will be give it to you when you least expect it...usually when we are "at the end of a tether"...

Should you require further assistance, I know of a Human Being that can help you pull yourself out of the situation you are right now and do it fast and you will be amazed. He lives in London.

Hang in there mate!

Send me a PM and I will send you his details.

[Daozen]

Nutritionally, you could try avoiding bread, endocrine disruptors and sugars. SSKI, Potassium Iodide is very cheap and safe, it improved my mood a fair bit.

Spiritually, depression could be a sign from your higher self you are not fulfilling your life mission.
I'd find a mission and try and stick to it. There's plenty of things you can do to raise awareness that don't cost anything.

Peace.

[Robin]

Hey Amethyst,

It takes a lot of courage to reach out in the way you have. I sense that you are a brave, resilient, sensitive soul who is stuck on a planet that makes you feel lonesome.

I, too, have been going through a stage of melancholy, as I prefer to call it. It has been accumulating and escalating throughout my whole life, but it has always been temporary. I call it my "melancholy" because it isn't really internal, which I associate with depression. Most of these melancholic feelings stem from external sources: the negative, low vibrations of other ignorant humans around me, war, poverty, disease, etc.

As the late Robin Williams said: "I used to think the worst thing in life is to end up alone. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone."

I have been talking with people behind the scenes (on Avalon and elsewhere) about my melancholy. I have also reached out to neighbors, and I attend a weekly Men's Group meeting where community members talk about their feelings. Both have been a big help to me.

I know that you are looking for more than just words of encouragement, but I just want you to know that you are NOT alone. It is important for you to understand why you are feeling this melancholy at this point in time. Where is this melancholy stemming from...?

[johnf]

Hey Amethyst,

It takes a lot of courage to reach out in the way you have. I sense that you are a brave, resilient, sensitive soul who is stuck on a planet that makes you feel lonesome.

I, too, have been going through a stage of melancholy, as I prefer to call it. It has been accumulating and escalating throughout my whole life, but it has always been temporary. I call it my "melancholy" because it isn't really internal, which I associate with depression. Most of these melancholic feelings stem from external sources: the negative, low vibrations of other ignorant humans around me, war, poverty, disease, etc.

As the late Robin Williams said: "I used to think the worst thing in life is to end up alone. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone."

I have been talking with people behind the scenes (on Avalon and elsewhere) about my melancholy. I have also reached out to neighbors, and I attend a weekly Men's Group meeting where community members talk about their feelings. Both have been a big help to me.

I know that you are looking for more than just words of encouragement, but I just want you to know that you are NOT alone. It is important for you to understand why you are feeling this melancholy at this point in time. Where is this melancholy stemming from...?

Very interesting point Sam, I also feel that a lot of sadness, and other negative emotions are not internal, this is something
that has come up a lot just prior to and since the loss of Robin Williams.
At the same time I can also contact the feeling of breakthrough that can carry us all through this.
Not as in we are all about to be saved , or the world is about to change radically, but the willingness to experience and feel exactly what is going on right now.
That willingness as an ongoing habit behind whatever actions in the external world we are taking is the real medicine needed.

John

[gardener2]

Dear Amethyst I am so sad for you depression is such a soul destroying illness, I agree with Argorn I think he put's it very well. meanwhile my heart and thought's go out to you, as I am sure everyone here feels for you. fondest regard's Gardener x

[Natalia]

Hi all, thank you so much for your warm support, understanding and advice, it's lovely that you care :) and that we are on this journey together <3

I have suffered from bouts of depression since I was an older child (thank goodness there have been ups and in-betweens, too)...I have had an inner ear virus for the past 4 weeks, have been off work the whole time and cannot do things like I could do before (due to dizzyness and tiredness) so that partly triggered it along with Robin Williams death (it did have a big impact on me - but it's not just about him but also suicide and loneliness and personal suffering as a whole...)...

A few friends have said maybe there was a reason why I got this virus, and maybe there is...it is slowly getting better...

I am going to reply to individual posts tomorrow (too tired now, need bed soon).

I will be ok but I need some support...and really grateful that I have been given that here :)

[Heartsong]

I have been in your shoes. I needed counseling. I needed to talk to someone who was sane, who wouldn't take advantage of me, who wasn't on an ego trip. I asked my "angels" to guide me. The first psychologist I went to was a perfect match. He was an amateur though skilled artist with an interest in the theater. We spoke the same language. He didn't overwhelm me or take over, he listened and offered perspectives and possibilities.
Say a prayer and ask for referrals from people that you respect.

And know that you've started to slowly unravel the knot that is you. It's a long slow journey sometimes but it's worth your life.
Blessings,
Heartsong

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Hi all, thank you so much for your warm support, understanding and advice, it's lovely that you care :) and that we are on this journey together <3

I have suffered from bouts of depression since I was an older child (thank goodness there have been ups and in-betweens, too)...I have had an inner ear virus for the past 4 weeks, have been off work the whole time and cannot do things like I could do before (due to dizzyness and tiredness) so that partly triggered it along with Robin Williams death (it did have a big impact on me - but it's not just about him but also suicide and loneliness and personal suffering as a whole...)...

A few friends have said maybe there was a reason why I got this virus, and maybe there is...it is slowly getting better...

I am going to reply to individual posts tomorrow (too tired now, need bed soon).

I will be ok but I need some support...and really grateful that I have been given that here :)

Have you tried MMS to get rid of that virus swiftly and effectively? Knocked out a serious infection in my jaw in 24 hours last week, my face turned from elephant man to normal in a day( one side of my face was swolen like a balloonfrom my lower jaw upto my right eye, extremely painful).

Perhaps you can give MMS1 and 2 a try, its dirt cheap, will last you a long time and protocols can be found all over the internet, Bill even did an interview with the man who (re)invented it and popularised the stuff ( Jim Humble), its even available in tablet form these days.

[betoobig]

Dont You worry... Your soulmate is waiting for You.
I am with Vje2... Give it a try.
Go for causality..
Love little sister

[Shezbeth]

Besides! It's all bollux anyway!

IIRC Carlos Castaneda describes such feelings as the state of being (something along the lines of) 'pregnant' with a new and exciting revelation, disposition, or realization. Who knows, this could be a good thing. :eek:

[joeecho]

Besides! It's all bollux anyway!

IIRC Carlos Castaneda describes such feelings as the state of being (something along the lines of) 'pregnant' with a new and exciting revelation, disposition, or realization. Who knows, this could be a good thing. :eek:

Is that 'pregnant' or constipated? I am on the toilet...errrr...fence on that one. ;)

Speaking of which, sometimes watching comedy shows, funny animal antics and inspirational videos/ music on YouTube helps me.

{{{{{{{{{Amethyst}}}}}}}}}

[Lifebringer]

Hi all, thank you so much for your warm support, understanding and advice, it's lovely that you care :) and that we are on this journey together <3

I have suffered from bouts of depression since I was an older child (thank goodness there have been ups and in-betweens, too)...I have had an inner ear virus for the past 4 weeks, have been off work the whole time and cannot do things like I could do before (due to dizzyness and tiredness) so that partly triggered it along with Robin Williams death (it did have a big impact on me - but it's not just about him but also suicide and loneliness and personal suffering as a whole...)...

A few friends have said maybe there was a reason why I got this virus, and maybe there is...it is slowly getting better...

I am going to reply to individual posts tomorrow (too tired now, need bed soon).

I will be ok but I need some support...and really grateful that I have been given that here :)

Eat some chicken soup with sliced fresh garlic in the broth. It will strengthen the immune system. Also take some baking soda to ph your body. Disease can't survive in a ph balanced body.

[Joe Sustaire]

Hang in there Amethyst, know that you are loved! Your postings help to brighten my days and many others here. Life is wonderful, but tough at the same time and I also struggle. Funny, as alone as we feel, we know there are many in the same boat. Sending you a hug!

[Star Tsar]

Wishing you health & mental wealth Birthstone girl!!

:grouphug:

[Robin]

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...

I can see that you live in London. Have you given thought to the possibility of city-life -- and the low, negative vibration it carries -- making you feel melancholic?

I don't know what your situation is financially, or if you are able to make big sacrifices, but I would suggest getting out of the city. And I would suggest as soon as possible. Even if it just a mini vacation, exploring rural living and protected wildlife preserves can do wonders to one's well-being.

Have you considered the rural lifestyle? If you are interested in gardening, or have an interest in wanting to learn to garden, I would suggest considering becoming a member of WWOOF (http://www.wwoof.net/)(World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms). There are organic farms all over the world, including in England, who bring on interns to help out. You can go live on a farm for as little as two weeks, or stay for a whole growing season. In return for helping out with gardening and other farm work, you typically are offered meals and housing free (not to mention gaining knowledge and experience).

This organization is all about connecting interested amateur gardeners-- or even experienced ones! -- with organic farms to increase world-wide understanding and appreciation of the planet. This organization offers great value in the experiences you acquire meeting people, being out in nature and growing fresh produce, growing spiritually and learning, and being a part of a healthy lifestyle.

Cities are destructive, unsustainable, filthy places that have been designed to contain people to better control them, to keep a collective low vibration, and to inhibit the creativity and happiness of people. I bet a beautiful, sensitive soul such as yourself would greatly benefit from taking a break from urban living.

I can attest to the integrity of WWOOF, and so can many others. At the very least, I think a break from Babylon-don would be very uplifting. The world is a big place waiting to be enjoyed and experienced, with so many wonderful people to meet. It is easy to feel suppressed, lonely, and anxious when being cooked up in a city for a long time.

I feel that a beautiful soul such as yourself is just waiting to open up her wings and express her sensitivity and creativity to the world. The world needs people like you, and there are people dreaming about crossing paths with such a soul as yourself. So what's stopping you? :)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi Amethyst

So sorry to hear about your troubles. There seems to be a lot of 'those' going around these days. A time of flux we are in - confusing and disrupting. The advice and support of Avalonians is excellent and heartfelt - it has helped me, too. One suggestion I have not yet seen, however, is to get some physical exercise. It's hard, I know, but anything that raises your heartrate and loosens and stretches your muscles and body will lead to some improvement in your outlook. Start small. Even a walk, especially in a natural setting. Try to do a little more each day.
Best wishes for improvement. :hug:

Brian

[Rodrigo]

Hi Amethyst, I'm Biomagnetism therapist and have treated many patients with these symptoms: headache, nightmares, mental confusion, bipolar disorder, memory problems, irritability, but mostly tired and depressed. Maybe you need to get checked by a biomagnetism therapist. I think you are affected by the "Epstein barr" virus; if so you can be cured in one session. As it is a virus, can be removed with magnets. The MMS could also work.
I left a link for you to review the available official information on this virus.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/infectiousmononucleosis.html
Also a link on the biomagnetic therapy discovered by Dr. Isaac Goiz, with English subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udBGk7B9c2o
Is clear to me that you are going to be cured.
Blessings and Greetings from Chile.

[Orph]

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...Yes you can. ...... Yes Amethyst, you can do it. :clap2:

[sandy]

Standing with you Amethyst in your state of being and know you will make the leap forward when the time is right as you are too awake and aware to stay down too long ........hugs and love energy coming your way :)

[gripreaper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIqCHva9c0

[Wind]

Amethyst,

You are loved and not alone. Even though I have not been depressed in a while, I know how it feels and also I can relate to your sensitivity. During the past week the energies have been intense and I have felt it too in my heart. Perhaps you're going through some kind of a transformation, they often feel painful, but also pave way for something new. If meditation isn't your thing then praying works just fine too.

BHf1JzQ4CWc

[WhiteFeather]

Things will get easier. It always does.

Can someone post a YT video for me to Amethyst. Currently I cannot I'm on a mobile device. The song is ooh child by the five stair steps.

[Frank V]

Things will get easier. It always does.

Can someone post a YT video for me to Amethyst. Currently I cannot I'm on a mobile device. The song is ooh child by the five stair steps.

This one?

bmDakhg45rk

[WhiteFeather]

Things will get easier. It always does.

Can someone post a YT video for me to Amethyst. Currently I cannot I'm on a mobile device. The song is ooh child by the five stair steps.

This one?

bmDakhg45rk

Asquali My Kola. That would be it.

[chocolate]

Ok guys, I am going to just come out and ask for help. I see and feel the warning signs and I said that if I need to ask for help, I will. I have been going through a stage of depression and I don't want it to get worse.

I'm not sure what it is, but I feel like I need some extra special help, that is not just to do with love (though that is very nice :) and it is all that I need sometimes) but an opportunity maybe...I don't know exactly...

I need hope for the future - I really need this.

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...

Hi there, Amethyst,

I hope you find some peace of mind and figure things out for yourself.
Help is always welcome, but I think you don't need advice, you may need physical help with restoring your inner balance and working on your subtle energy.
I have been ( probably still am ) at a similar stage as you are experiencing, and it does get worse for a while, but then it gets only better.

One thing I have learned is that we, western kids, suffer from almost total lack of alignment of our energy system. I have learned this by experiencing it, so it is not just quoting from a book or from a popular article.
From all chakras I guess open ones are probably up to the thirst, maximum to the fourth (hearth) one, and that leads to all sort of uncomfortable conditions -- emotionally, physically, spiritually, etc. From there this leads to not well developed and balanced energy centers -- if you have heard of the three dantians, or elixirs. Once in balance and grounded they can provide for you all sorts of answers and guidance without the need of anyone else's involvement. But as a start I would think you will greatly benefit from some help from a person versed in that type of healing.
it is not going to be easy, for the work on the energy system also involves discovering blockages, pain, etc, and before you get better you will definitely get worse, for a while. Just be ready to face some fears and to make some internal choices. I know I went all the way in, and discovered that once you are prepared to die physically, than you will discover you are prepared to live also.

I keep on suggesting here Qigong (tai chi), and I know those who have practiced it understand the principle and the benefits from it, but I have seen very little written here, which only saddens me, because that is the thing that is also meeting for many science(modern) and spirituality(ancient or modern).

When I was experiencing health and emotional problems I kept on reading and exploring, and I was also in and out of emotional disruptions, but the big change occurred for me once I discovered Robert Peng and one of his books.

When people here suggest meditation, I would only hope that some will mention that if your 6-th chakra is not open, you will not be able to meditate the way necessary for you to fully experience the benefits from it. Someone revealed to me that one needs to work on the energy system as a whole, and not on an individual chakra, so that I would say is the way.
Sounds complicated, and long-term, but in my view there is not a cure for one ailment, but for the whole body.
Recently I read that healing occurs when the whole body is healed. Otherwise you will fix one things and disrupt another.

You may benefit from reading TraineeHuman's thread about OBEs.

:)

[chocolate]

Besides! It's all bollux anyway!

IIRC Carlos Castaneda describes such feelings as the state of being (something along the lines of) 'pregnant' with a new and exciting revelation, disposition, or realization. Who knows, this could be a good thing. :eek:

May be we need to mention Castaneda hasn't been 'the happiest' of all the great minds.

[BlueMuffin]

Hi Amethyst -

Some great Advice on here.

I'm going to go a different route and tell you some more practical applications that could be of help.

Some people have extremely sensitive constitutions and are generally just sensitive to energies and the extremely heavy burden the modern world offers with pollution and so forth.

Applications that will surely assist you in this process-

Essential Oils - High Quality Essential oils are extremely potent therapeutic tools, which can shift your general demeanor and cause a cascade of general chemical reactions in the body that are amazing. Research some ones to apply specifically to mood, and maybe even your infection. These phytochemicals are not to be underestimated!

Herbs - Are you familiar with Applied Kinesiology? Find someone locally who will assess your autonomic nervous system as to what strengthens your body and corrects general deficiencies. There a variety of different methods and I'm you'll be able to find some locally, but more favorite system and supplements is the QRA system(Quantum Reflex Analysis).

More on this topic and a specific herb is the well known St. John's Wort. Many studies, especially in other countries, have it outperforming Chemical SSRI's of today which I wouldn't even consider ever dealing with. I've taken it in certain periods in my life and always proved an amicable companion

Specific supplements for Detox and daily adjunct in general well-being - Algae, Algae, Algae.

Algae's are by far the most energy pact, cleansing, nutritionally dense supplements to take in the world. They help balance almost every aspect in the body, where as Chlorella literally traps contaminants such as Heavy metals, pesticides, Xeno-estrogens and so on and carries them out of the body. Look for Micronized Chlorella and team it with cilantro if possible.

Don't forget certain clays such as Zeolite and Calcium betonite, as well Humic and Fulvic acids. Oh and minerals!

I believe detox is one of the most important considerations in today's world.

Subtle Energy and frequency Medicine -

[Skyhaven]

Amethyst,

Try not to fight it. Let the energies pass through without putting too much emphasis on them, they will pass. Do the things you love(d) to do, although you might not feel up to it all that much. Being in nature really helped me a lot.

[Curt]

Amethyst,

Praying that you find the help and inspiration you need to break through.

xIpo93fWiMA

[Stephanie]

:grouphug:



What a treasure trove of healing energies,comfort,love and caring

this thread has become..truely wonderful,helpful and inspiring for

us all.


Hope this brings you healing,harmony and joy,dear Amethyst.

[Sidney]

Hi Ametyst, many ppl re struggling. The world sucks right now. There are valid reasons for the depression epidemic. And it is epidemic.
The book i suggested feeling good, is all about healing depression without drugs. If you search amazon or ebay u can probably find a used copy cheap.
Some suggestions for what u can do now.
Take a walk.. instant endorphine production
Call a trusted friend and talk. Vent. Get it all out.
Go to an animal shelter and pet the animals. They actually need people do volunteer for that.
Draw
Write in a journal
See a doctor preferably a naturalpathic one if possible
Drink water.
Dark chocolate also aids in endorphine production

I have been there. Pm me any time. Im a really good listener. Sending hugs.

[Apulu]

Hi Amethyst, hi all

It would take a lot of guts for me to ask for help in the way that you have here, so if the same was true for you, congratulations! You have some great advice already it seems, and what a cool thing that this type of thread gets this response. This kind of thing really gets my attention, as I can't seem to think of a more important thing than to have a long hard look at one's life (the unexamined is not worth living according to Socrates innit). And I feel that's what this kind of crisis is: an opportunity to do that. Old paradigm not working + Unable to tolerate current paradigm = Must forge new paradigm.

I wouldn't know how to give you specific advice on how to move forward, but I can certainly try to put across a couple of things which seemed to transform my life, which I began putting into practice during a time of seemingly complete hopelessness (for me). And I mean complete. I almost made the choice to end my life. I mention that not for comparison to your situation, but only to emphasize that I had lost all hope of making a full recovery. Now, I do tend to feel I have my life in my hands again; it's not that I don't go through periods of difficulty, I certainly do, but that is now balanced with periods of huge optimism and contentment.

So, if I were now giving advice and telling myself then, what it was I needed to do to get moving again, and feel elation and excitement again, be able to smile convincingly again, I think it would be along the lines of this:

1. Have faith. Put your trust in the universe being able to guide you to exactly where you want to go.

2. Decide where you want to go. Just get your mojo back for now? Fine. Done. Anything else? Done.

3. Drop your expectations about how your desires will manifest. You will be given pointers, intuitions, little, or major from unexpected places, and where you end up may not seem to resemble where you thought you were going. Sometimes (or often), coincidences will happen in connection with where you have asked to go. It's up to you to learn how to follow what comes your way (as a result of your beliefs and desires); you can start to get the most out of what you want to use, and discard what you feel doesn't serve you.. If a certain direction is starting to feel right, go! Do it! You may find that a certain direction seems very scary. You might have to find a way to do it anyway, and learn to accept the fear, which will probably start to dissipate.

4. Lean to forgive. Everyone. Yes, everyone. Even myself? Yes. Lean to recognize that you are responsible for the way that you feel emotionally, and that it's up to you to change how you feel about something or someone, if you don't like how you feel (including your life). It's never anyone else's fault, or the fault of an outside circumstance, if you feel negative. Never!? Never. You may not always be able to act like that, but if can you accept that, many seemingly unsolvable conflicts will suddenly be able to be resolved (at least for you), and some may stop appearing.

5. What's happening to you now is a good thing. That may seem impossible to accept currently, but if you truly want out of this situation, and are willing to do whatever it takes to get out, you will one day look back and be thankful that you went through this. It's the catalyst for change.

6. Many wonderful herbs can help you. They are not the solution to your mental state, but they can help a lot. Your diet can have a huge effect on how you feel. Try to become aware of what food resonates with you and helps you, and what has the opposite effect.

7. Take up yoga, or a physical exercise whereby you learn to become focused in the present. Try to be present at all times, and find out how this can work for you.

8. You are not responsible for how anyone else feels, they are. Drop feeling guilty. This will not stop you caring or doing the right thing by people, it will make you better at it. Feeling guilty or feeling over-responsible for people is not helping you or anyone else; it's actually making things worse. But that's OK! Stop feeling guilty! Stop it!

9. Loads of other stuff.

I hope there is something in the above you can use. This little essay has been really cathartic for me I think. I wonder if my 'past self' is actually now receiving advice and pointers from it's 'future self'. I'd like to think so. I'm glad I was empathetic!

By the way, in my case, there was no quick fix. It took seemingly long periods of hard work, courage, and commitment for me to feel like things were truly looking up. If that's what you need, I'm sure you'll find it in spades.

Laurence

[Natalia]

Thank you all so much <3 :hug: (going to listen to my body and take a nap and come back later to reply).

[Joe Sustaire]

Beautiful post Samwise! And I completely agree about getting out of the city. My wife and I moved back into the woods/mountains 25 years ago, 2 1/2 miles up an abandoned railroad track, off-grid, and have loved it. I can't imagine what my state of soul/mind would be now if I/we were still living in the metro-plex all this time. Truly, nature heals! (My personal difficulty at this time is coming to grips with my soulmate/wife of 43 years descent into alzheimers)

Amethyst you might want to take a look at this thread on sun gazing.... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73077-NASA-Confirms-Super-Human-Abilities-Gained-Through-Sungazing ....

It's funny I have intuitively been drawn to sun bathing this summer, haven't done that since I was a kid. It seems to help me feel better and re-charge. Then I stumbled upon the thread above which felt right and have started doing it. I'm only up to 3 minutes, but it feels right.

We're pulling for you, you have much to give, thanks!

[RunningDeer]

A lot of great advice here to treat from the inside out and the outside in through foods, walks, detox, give self permission to do what brings joy, and slow, deep conscious breathing. I use these and one more when I’m sick and tired, of being sick and tired.

I stop tip toeing around and sit right smack in the middle. I nix the labels of anger, sadness, rage, hopelessness. I feel. What happens is that I’m no longer consumed by its weight. It’s replaced with peace and silence where nothing becomes All.

Drats! I’m not there long (as yet) because tears, laughter, OMGs and ahas!…this is not at all what I thought life is.

Even that quickly fades as I become aware of the bodysuit again. But each time it’s with the wisdom that reminds me to ‘In-joy’ this game. And make a conscious choice to do more of the things I enjoy. It brings balance and raises frequency. Which in turn assists in awareness of what's poking at me, be it physical or emotional. It goes poof much, much quicker now.

RunningDeer <3

[jake gittes]

If you've been putting off a project for a while, tackle it. Just start doing it. You don't have to finish it, but just start it. You will find that it was not as formidable as you dreaded it to be and may just end up finishing it and starting another. This will provide a huge amount of relief and you'll wonder why you dreaded it so much. I was in the same place you are recently and tackled something dreaded yesterday and feel much better. Remember: it's never as bad as it seems.

[grannyfranny100]

Samwise said, "Cities are destructive, unsustainable, filthy places that have been designed to contain people to better control them, to keep a collective low vibration, and to inhibit the creativity and happiness of people. I bet a beautiful, sensitive soul such as yourself would greatly benefit from taking a break from urban living."

I lived in Soho, NY before it became chic. It was the right place to test my professional skills, mingle with colleagues and develop a newly minted marriage. It was fun. Now when I drive on the outskirts of a major city, I know it is not right for this time in my life.

Amethyst, sometimes we need to shift gears if only for a weekend. Communicating with nature is one possibility. Basically, getting out of one's routine presents more opportunities. Good luck!

[Sidney]

You may find some interesting reading here. Free pdf of "Three Magic Words".
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=82737&viewfull=1#post82737

[Roisin]

One example of a "transitional" to help segue from a fugue state to one of awaken-ness and clarity. Music.... like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzgQoGvSKA4

[Frank V]

One example of a "transitional" to help segue from a fugue state to one of awaken-ness and clarity. Music.... like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzgQoGvSKA4

One of my favorite songs, Roisin. Thank you for having good taste. :-)

[Frank V]

And here's another uplifting one by Christopher Cross... ;-)

(This is from 1999, so he was already quite a bit older then, but he's still active today.)

zGhfwjcqqgA

[Frank V]

And another one, from another band... ;-)

I52eefwAKDE

[Frank V]

And while we're at it with the uplifting music, here's another one of my favorites from Neil and friends. I once sang and played this song late at night at a local tavern here in town, together with the singer of a local cover band, but it works equally well in duet with my brother. :-)

ag8XcMG1EX4

[Natalia]

Hi all :) I'm feeling quite a bit better emotionally, not desperate or on the edge, more inner peace...I feel energetically a bit clearer, too...thank you to all who have helped me with this...some really good advice (but I just don't know where to start! and so much, which I am grateful for...I have bought the 2 books that Sidney suggested, and will try some of the other things suggested...just need a little time to bit by bit make some changes, and I will come back to this thread...)...

The music has been lovely to listen to...

Also, yes the move is so important, I have planned to move to Cornwall next year with a friend, but open that there may be somewhere else...and also, I could do with a nature break before I move...

I will also just start to make (voice) music...I sing a lot on my own just for fun but will do more with it and just try...I also want to at some point work with someone who knows how to make music, background music, ummm, play instruments (cause I'm just a singer! hehe :) )

Soulmate I am sure I will meet you, hehe :) I am looking forward to us loving each other and working as part of a team...

It would be nice to have some face book and Skype friends, from here...pm me if you want to

love,

Amethyst <3

[Rich]

As Aragon suggested asking what you want in general or in any specific area of life can be really helpful in my experience. When you really know what you want you will get it for sure, this is certain. 100%.

[chocolate]

A bit off topic, but Aragorn, you totally floored me with those tunes! Long time ago ... some of my favoriets.
I am horrible at remembering names of bands, but I do remember the music. Thank you. Thought I would just share that. :)

Amethyst, you seem to be getting better, I assume?
I learned myslef a few useful tips from all the suggestions, and I wanted to say thank you to everyone who decided to spend time and share here.

[Pris]

I will also just start to make (voice) music...I sing a lot on my own just for fun but will do more with it and just try...I also want to at some point work with someone who knows how to make music, background music, ummm, play instruments (cause I'm just a singer! hehe :) )

No, you are not just a singer lol! Singing is wonderful and since you seem to enjoy that, by all means focus on that, Amethyst.

I'm a sensitive, introverted personality type (INFP). If I'm not careful, boy, can I ever depress myself!

So, I don't know if this will help you... This is how I 'distract' myself out of my depression:

For me, the key to getting out of depression is distraction. It's not 'looking inside' and dealing with it -- it's the opposite. The less I focus on myself and something I don't want, the less hold the depression has on me. And, for me, this seems to work with depression and anything else I don't want in my life (law of attraction?).

Distractions are a great start -- positive, 'good feeling' distractions. Try not to think about it too much. The less introspective you are, the better.

Singing can be a great distraction -- unless you're singing about depression. ;)

Listening to positive music -- it MUST be positive -- is fantastic.

For myself, I like to get distracted with positive, creative projects (animation, art, poetry, music, etc.), ideas, discussions on Avalon (things that I want in my life)... I don't know what the distraction is until I sense my attention -- my interest -- being drawn to it and then I just let it 'take over'.

Oh, and never underestimate the power of nature (eg. a good, long walk) and animals to 'distract'! :biggrin1:

All the best to you!

[Roisin]

And while we're at it with the uplifting music, here's another one of my favorites from Neil and friends. I once sang and played this song late at night at a local tavern here in town, together with the singer of a local cover band, but it works equally well in duet with my brother. :-)

ag8XcMG1EX4

Hmmmm, would love to view this video but it says that it's not available in my country? Any way that can be fixed? I'm in the US.

[Natalia]

I will also just start to make (voice) music...I sing a lot on my own just for fun but will do more with it and just try...I also want to at some point work with someone who knows how to make music, background music, ummm, play instruments (cause I'm just a singer! hehe :) )

No, you are not just a singer lol! Singing is wonderful and since you seem to enjoy that, by all means focus on that, Amethyst.

I'm a sensitive, introverted personality type (INFP). If I'm not careful, boy, can I ever depress myself!

So, I don't know if this will help you... This is how I 'distract' myself out of my depression:

For me, the key to getting out of depression is distraction. It's not 'looking inside' and dealing with it -- it's the opposite. The less I focus on myself and something I don't want, the less hold the depression has on me. And, for me, this seems to work with depression and anything else I don't want in my life (law of attraction?).

Distractions are a great start -- positive, 'good feeling' distractions. Try not to think about it too much. The less introspective you are, the better.

Singing can be a great distraction -- unless you're singing about depression. ;)

Listening to positive music -- it MUST be positive -- is fantastic.

For myself, I like to get distracted with positive, creative projects (animation, art, poetry, music, etc.), ideas, discussions on Avalon (things that I want in my life)... I don't know what the distraction is until I sense my attention -- my interest -- being drawn to it and then I just let it 'take over'.

Oh, and never underestimate the power of nature and animals to 'distract'! :biggrin1:

All the best to you!

(yeah of course me not just singer! hehe :) )

I am INFP too! I sing sad and happy songs...when I feel sad I sing sad songs...when I feel happy I sing happy songs...when I am crazy I sing sad songs when I am happy (perhaps should not do that, but sometimes the tune is so good! lol :)

I want to make healing, spiritual, beautiful, heart music...part of me wants to do very sad, feel sorry for myself songs...(lol)...part of me wants to do higher self/channeling/love spiritual sort of songs...I want to focus more on the latter...

(I just wrote some deep introspective stuff that sounds like how we can talk during a psychotherapy session, but deleted it, sometimes I am too deep to be happy)...

I need to do more of what I love and what makes me feel good...too much deep about certain things doesn't make me happy (some/enough can be very good)...I am light sometimes, playful, singy, laughy, smiley, dancy etc...

Well...you know how, like, you have had to become your own psychotherapist and then you can do it a bit for others as well...and the focus on that stuff...well at times it's too much....part of my journey that I had to go through because of what I went through as a child...

I want more joy and love in my life...and I need it..

(I feel to end there, thank you for your reply :)).

(edit, sometimes I distract myself from joy and happiness!)...

[Sidney]

Hey amethyst,sidenote, you might keep track of the sun stuff thread, solar activity has been way up the last two days,and being a sensitive, you could be physiologically reactive to the energies that have been hitting the last few days. The energies have calmed down today, hence people feeling better.

[Frank V]

And while we're at it with the uplifting music, here's another one of my favorites from Neil and friends. I once sang and played this song late at night at a local tavern here in town, together with the singer of a local cover band, but it works equally well in duet with my brother. :-)

ag8XcMG1EX4

Hmmmm, would love to view this video but it says that it's not available in my country? Any way that can be fixed? I'm in the US.

Well, it's just a YouTube link. I'm sure others will have uploaded the same video a few times, so simply visit YouTube and search for "Crowded House - Weather With You". ;-)

Crowded House is an Australian-based band, but at least one of the members - Neil Finn, the singer/guitarist - is a New-Zealander. I don't know about the other members, though. Neil Finn used to be in another band in New Zealand called Split Enz with his brother Tim before he founded Crowded House. They were very good too. ;-)

[RunningDeer]

And while we're at it with the uplifting music, here's another one of my favorites from Neil and friends. I once sang and played this song late at night at a local tavern here in town, together with the singer of a local cover band, but it works equally well in duet with my brother. :-)

Hmmmm, would love to view this video but it says that it's not available in my country? Any way that can be fixed? I'm in the US.

Here's two versions. For future reference, cut and paste the title into YouTube and other versions come up. :wave:


Crowded House - Weather With You (Live on UKTV)
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Uploaded on Mar 15, 2010
Crowded house - Weather with you. Good Live clip whereby Mark makes a mistake in the 2nd verse and Neil Laughs. One of their last UK TV performances before they split


Crowded House, Weather with you
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Uploaded on Dec 3, 2006

Live at the pinkpop festival 1993

[Frank V]

Hey amethyst,sidenote, you might keep track of the sun stuff thread, solar activity has been way up the last two days,and being a sensitive, you could be physiologically reactive to the energies that have been hitting the last few days. The energies have calmed down today, hence people feeling better.

This is something I myself am susceptible to. When there is a lot of solar activity, this creates an electromagnetic imbalance in the atmosphere. You get lots of plasma formation in the air and a buildup of static electricity in the environment around you: buildings, trees, etc. The same thing happens when there's a stormy wind, or just a great deal of wind raging on incessantly. The friction of the air molecules rubs off electrons and thus ionizes your environment. You may then even notice that such a situation commonly ends with a thunderstorm, and/or that you'll start feeling better once it starts raining, because water is an electrical conductor and the rain causes the electric polarization to even out.

The electromagnetic fields generated during such circumstances affect the neurology of some people. I am one of those, and my brother also has it, as did my dad. This can translate into physical pain - commonly all the stuff in your body that has (internal or visible) scars, and bones which have been broken in the past. However, it also affects the brain, because the brain is an electro-chemical machine. In my case, it often triggers autistic meltdowns - i.e. sensory overload - but there's always some psychological factor involved as well. The psychological factor is what tips you over - and bear in mind here that this can be triggered by our enemies - and the electromagnetic factor is what then keeps you into that state, unable to climb out of the abyss for the time being.

So yes, do not underestimate the influence of the elements of nature. It is very real. My dad would lie awake, howling in pain - due to his condition, of course - whenever there was a storm, and no amount of painkillers could help him.

[Natalia]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

[Wind]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

Of course it is okay to cry, I occasionally (lately too) have had those feelings myself and I'm not ashamed to admit it. :)

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/8d/48/f18d48d6b7b4942f92e51f4a16c696d8.jpg

[Agape]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

It's absolutely normal but not overly helpful. It just does not work .

There have to be better ways to reach out to someone but I'm not on advisor list in these matters, sorry .

:hug:

[Natalia]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

Of course it is okay to cry, I occasionally (lately too) have had those feelings myself and I'm not ashamed to admit it. :)

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/8d/48/f18d48d6b7b4942f92e51f4a16c696d8.jpg

I think that it's good for a man to be in touch with his feelings and not be ashamed of it :) I too am not ashamed...but concerned...(do I have a "broken heart"?...It seems like will keep crying like this until I meet him...)...

btw, I know many others suffer too...and people reading this... <3



Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

It's absolutely normal but not overly helpful. It just does not work .

There have to be better ways to reach out to someone but I'm not on advisor list in these matters, sorry .

:hug:

I find tears can be healing...but perhaps sometimes there is such a thing as too many tears (not saying in terms of judgement, more of concern...)...

Just that you care, means something to me <3 :hug:

[Pris]

(yeah of course me not just singer! hehe :) )

I am INFP too! I sing sad and happy songs...when I feel sad I sing sad songs...when I feel happy I sing happy songs...when I am crazy I sing sad songs when I am happy (perhaps should not do that, but sometimes the tune is so good! lol :)

I want to make healing, spiritual, beautiful, heart music...part of me wants to do very sad, feel sorry for myself songs...(lol)...part of me wants to do higher self/channeling/love spiritual sort of songs...I want to focus more on the latter...

(I just wrote some deep introspective stuff that sounds like how we can talk during a psychotherapy session, but deleted it, sometimes I am too deep to be happy)...

I need to do more of what I love and what makes me feel good...too much deep about certain things doesn't make me happy (some/enough can be very good)...I am light sometimes, playful, singy, laughy, smiley, dancy etc...

Well...you know how, like, you have had to become your own psychotherapist and then you can do it a bit for others as well...and the focus on that stuff...well at times it's too much....part of my journey that I had to go through because of what I went through as a child...

I want more joy and love in my life...and I need it..

(I feel to end there, thank you for your reply :)).

(edit, sometimes I distract myself from joy and happiness!)...

Well, well, well! Another INFP! Hehe. :cool: You're the first INFP I've ever talked with that actually knows they are one. That's a big deal.

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)

I've done that... write depressing poetry or write a sad song just so that I could... wallow in my misery. Sometimes it seems so much easier to create negative stuff. And, when you're in that mode, anything positive seems too fluffy and goofy (lol!). But, it's important to realize that everything we put out has a ripple effect.

I, for example, like to create animations. I share them with people. IMHO, positive -- fluffy, goofy -- errm, uplifting ones are best for sharing with others. I'm surprised at how many people I've 'touched'... and am humbled and grateful for having been a source of inspiration. I mostly avoid creating anything 'dark' because I know there are consequences to everything I do, and I have to live with myself.


(edit, sometimes I distract myself from joy and happiness!)...

Of course! We don't want to allow ourselves to have too much fun now, do we? ;) Awareness of this little bad habit helps to eliminate it. You deserve joy and happiness, Amethyst!


Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

Yes, I would. Myself, I've been in a relationship for over two decades, so I've never really felt lonely (I have been fortunate!). But, lonely romantically? Yes, sometimes. My partner is not a 'romantic' lol! So, once in awhile I find myself crying for 'missed romance'... imagining what that might be like... but, I try not to dwell on that (or put blame/expectation on my partner) because I realize those sad feelings stem from a lack of self-love.

For a relationship to really work (or to start a new relationship!), I think we all need to make ourselves 'whole' first.

I'm still working on it! The more 'whole' I make myself, the more I draw into my life all that I need.

[RunningDeer]

I am INFP too! I sing sad and happy songs...when I feel sad I sing sad songs...when I feel happy I sing happy songs...when I am crazy I sing sad songs when I am happy (perhaps should not do that, but sometimes the tune is so good! lol :)

Well, well, well! Another INFP! Hehe. :cool: You're the first INFP I've ever talked with that actually knows they are one. That's a big deal.

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)
FYI - "Free Personality Test and Type Descriptions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-Type-Descriptions&p=665299&viewfull=1#post665299)" thread: there are approximately 37% INFP’s here on Avalon. I'm an 
INFJ, and there are approximately 21% of us. Both of these groups fall in the "Idealist" category.

RunningDeer <3

[Pris]

I am INFP too! I sing sad and happy songs...when I feel sad I sing sad songs...when I feel happy I sing happy songs...when I am crazy I sing sad songs when I am happy (perhaps should not do that, but sometimes the tune is so good! lol :)

Well, well, well! Another INFP! Hehe. :cool: You're the first INFP I've ever talked with that actually knows they are one. That's a big deal.

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)
FYI - "Free Personality Test and Type Descriptions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-Type-Descriptions&p=665299&viewfull=1#post665299)" thread: there are approximately 37% INFP’s here on Avalon. I'm an 
INFJ, and there are approximately 21% of us. Both of these groups fall in the "Idealist" category.

RunningDeer <3

Thanks for this, RunningDeer! I just read over your thread and cannot believe how many INFP's there are here on Avalon! It's stunning!!! :jaw:

And, so many introverts -- it's like an introvert convention! :rofl:

Geesh, have I lived a sheltered life! It's like I found my family! ;)

UPDATE: I took the test and I'm... shocked! For most of my life I've been an INFP (I took a zillion tests!) According to the newest results, I am an ENFP! :shocked:

I've got to mull this one over...

Sorry! :focus:

[johnf]

I am INFP too! I sing sad and happy songs...when I feel sad I sing sad songs...when I feel happy I sing happy songs...when I am crazy I sing sad songs when I am happy (perhaps should not do that, but sometimes the tune is so good! lol :)

Well, well, well! Another INFP! Hehe. :cool: You're the first INFP I've ever talked with that actually knows they are one. That's a big deal.

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)
FYI - "Free Personality Test and Type Descriptions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-Type-Descriptions&p=665299&viewfull=1#post665299)" thread: there are approximately 37% INFP’s here on Avalon. I'm an 
INFJ, and there are approximately 21% of us. Both of these groups fall in the "Idealist" category.

RunningDeer <3

Thanks for this, RunningDeer! I just read over your thread and cannot believe how many INFP's there are here on Avalon! It's stunning!!! :jaw:

And, so many introverts -- it's like an introvert convention! :rofl:

Geesh, have I lived a sheltered life! It's like I found my family! ;)

UPDATE: I took the test and I'm... shocked! For most of my life I've been an INFP (I took a zillion tests!) According to the newest results, I am an ENFP! :shocked:

I've got to mull this one over...

Sorry! :focus:

Well at the risk of going one more post on what I see as only a slight tangent I am also infp, and am now wondering how many of us have jumped in to help out Amethyst, a fellow infp.

John

[Frank V]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

Yes, it is perfectly okay to feel that way. However, there is a caveat emptor here... You are obviously desperate for romance, and as such, looking for The One ™, but be advised that because you are desperate, you might mistake the first one that comes along and whispers a few nice words to you for The One, and in the end, you'll be left with a broken heart again. So yes, keep your eyes open for The One, but also make sure that he really is who you would want him to be. There are lots of predators out there, my friend.

In the end, it's like I said...: Don't ask for it, don't pray for it, but let it find you, and believe that it will come along. Once you believe in it, you are making it into a reality. I'm sort of in the same boat with you, and I could say a lot more, but I'm not going to do that on a public thread, because it's very personal to me. ;-)

(If you want to know more about my own quest, then contact me via PM. :-))

[chocolate]

Amethyst (and All of us who tend to shed some tears often, I am definitely falling into this category, too ) ,

tears don't just happen because one feels alone. I have been alone my whole life, even when I was not, and usually I have cried for various reasons, but not just because I feel the need for a romantic relationship.
Sometimes we mistake the need for connection, communication and sharing with a need for a 'romantic' relationship. Life is a combination of many various layers and objects/subjects that may play a role in the moments when we start noticing the absence of some of them.

As for distraction(s), it works pretty much as Pris has described for me too, but it is almost never a solution to the problem. It is more like a bandage over a wound. But it does have its purpose and use.

Music is the highest form of art, and lucky are those who can make music.
<3

Add on:
Aragorn, for some of us The One may have many faces (what I mean is that many may fill in the emptiness and make us happy, not just one person), but for some rare cases there is only one that is The One. I am currently exploring the option of being okay on my own, and still finding that I am 'in love' with my temporary human life, quite imperfect at present, too.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

I'll have virtual coffee and hug you any day of the week;), you can light the virtual candles now, but be quick, I have to be on the last train home again, until that time you can squeeze me until orange juice comes out of my ears, and yes when you feel like that you need it, go get it, there is no shame in that, just go get it, forget about that Prince in shining armour, he is a myth, life is not a fairy tale, just be realistic in your expectations, needs and wants are not the same thing dear Amethist, don't wait for that man to come by, go look for him, it takes two to play hide and seek, you can both seek or both find, look where you haven't looked before, don't wait, go fetch, no shame in that, none at all when it doesn't work out, one more lesson learned, catch your breath and next lesson, don't sweat it, that's how it works for many of us, maybe even the most of us, for me it does, go with the flow, but first create flow, get in there woman, go get them, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, put on your eyepatch and peg leg and go for it, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, eat them alive ( add personal preferred spices if needed).

[Natalia]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

I'll have virtual coffee and hug you any day of the week;), you can light the virtual candles now, but be quick, I have to be on the last train home again, until that time you can squeeze me until orange juice comes out of my ears, and yes when you feel like that you need it, go get it, there is no shame in that, just go get it, forget about that Prince in shining armour, he is a myth, life is not a fairy tale, just be realistic in your expectations, needs and wants are not the same thing dear Amethist, don't wait for that man to come by, go look for him, it takes two to play hide and seek, you can both seek or both find, look where you haven't looked before, don't wait, go fetch, no shame in that, none at all when it doesn't work out, one more lesson learned, catch your breath and next lesson, don't sweat it, that's how it works for many of us, maybe even the most of us, for me it does, go with the flow, but first create flow, get in there woman, go get them, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, put on your eyepatch and peg leg and go for it, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, eat them alive ( add personal preferred spices if needed).

Hehehe :)

(I'm out at the mo but want to reply later)

[Sidney]

Hey amethyst,sidenote, you might keep track of the sun stuff thread, solar activity has been way up the last two days,and being a sensitive, you could be physiologically reactive to the energies that have been hitting the last few days. The energies have calmed down today, hence people feeling better.

This is something I myself am susceptible to. When there is a lot of solar activity, this creates an electromagnetic imbalance in the atmosphere. You get lots of plasma formation in the air and a buildup of static electricity in the environment around you: buildings, trees, etc. The same thing happens when there's a stormy wind, or just a great deal of wind raging on incessantly. The friction of the air molecules rubs off electrons and thus ionizes your environment. You may then even notice that such a situation commonly ends with a thunderstorm, and/or that you'll start feeling better once it starts raining, because water is an electrical conductor and the rain causes the electric polarization to even out.

The electromagnetic fields generated during such circumstances affect the neurology of some people. I am one of those, and my brother also has it, as did my dad. This can translate into physical pain - commonly all the stuff in your body that has (internal or visible) scars, and bones which have been broken in the past. However, it also affects the brain, because the brain is an electro-chemical machine. In my case, it often triggers autistic meltdowns - i.e. sensory overload - but there's always some psychological factor involved as well. The psychological factor is what tips you over - and bear in mind here that this can be triggered by our enemies - and the electromagnetic factor is what then keeps you into that state, unable to climb out of the abyss for the time being.

So yes, do not underestimate the influence of the elements of nature. It is very real. My dad would lie awake, howling in pain - due to his condition, of course - whenever there was a storm, and no amount of painkillers could help him.

Great explanation. Yes, the storms rolling affect me the same, and relief comes when the rain falls. It goes from the positively charged ions to negative. Thats also why people feel good thag live near the ocean, as the waves continually crashing also charge the ions negatively.

When the positively charged ions from space hit earth as during a cme or filament eruption, I feel it emotionally. I instantly start crying. I know now, because of researching, all my past scars come rushing the the surface. It really is strange.

The brain is a mysterious electronic gadget :)
Ps. INFP here too. Lol

[Joe Sustaire]

Well I just took the test and what do you know. I'm an INFP also.
Now I have to go and study up on what this means.....

[Wind]

Learning to love oneself is crucial and I too am still on that journey. I have learned to accept myself more and more and I'm not so judgemental and critical towards myself as I used to be (my mind says that I have to be perfect!), but I sometimes do expect way too much from myself and others. It's a huge flaw, I know, but I'm learning. INFJ here (borderline INFP). What a peculiar thing love is. ;)

[RunningDeer]

Off topic.
:focus:

[araucaria]

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)

Careful here: you are all special because you are unique, not because of any specific trait. There are only about 4% psychopaths, which makes them extra special both singly and collectively – so there’s nothing special about being special if you see what I mean. Because special people getting together and comparing notes are sharing their uniqueness, which is a bit of a paradox. You are a bunch of people boasting of being introverts, which, if I may say so, is a very extraverted thing to do :) You are more than meets the eye, that’s for sure. Your quality is both in what you have to give and in what you need to take.

Amethyst too is deliberately acting out of character here. As we know from her Carol Clark reading which she inexplicably broadcast ;), she has been told a move is on the cards this year and that she will likely be meeting her soulmate next year. That is what this is all about, IMHO.

I need hope for the future - I really need this.

I need a big life change...but I need help with it...I'm lost and can't do it all by myself...

Amethyst, you have been told that hope and change is on the way; perhaps you are fretting with impatience. It is not easy integrating future events into living in the present. You have to understand what is going on. Normally speaking, there are not many events in one’s life that are foreseen in this way. If you are getting married, you at least know who the lucky one is, and you kill time by making preparations, so that visualization occurs gradually. Or if you are having a baby, you think of a name and prepare a room with all the kit, as a crutch to wonder what it will look like and be like.

Remember the cautionary tale of Oedipus and his parents who were separately told by an oracle that he would kill his father and marry his mother. His parents reacted immediately by leaving him out to die on a mountain. If they hadn’t done that, he would have been okay with his real parents. Then Oedipus himself reacted by leaving his (adoptive) parents. If he hadn’t done that, he would have been okay. So what happened here? The oracle was not so much a foretelling of the future as a major event in itself which provoked the behaviour leading to the announced outcome. Since it was a negative outcome, it provoked one evasive reaction that misfired, causing the second evasive reaction to backfire. First the parents were unable to kill their son to prevent him killing, but this created an ambiguity over who were his parents. So two sensible reactions cancel each other out in a series of mistaken identities and mistaken moves.

Amethyst, your case is slightly different because the foreseen outcome is positive, but it too involves an unidentified other and an unspecified move. The Oedipus model suggests that the best action is no action at all. Why? Because your feeling/being is only half of the equation, and the other half (pun intended) – the object of your quest or expectation – is acting independently and unknowably. So I think with this prediction you may be getting ahead of yourself, or rather working backwards. Instead of feeling joyful anticipation at a future relationship, you may be feeling the grief that comes after a relationship is over, but without the sweet memories that go with it.

As I said, your quality is both in what you have to give and in what you need to take. A loving relationship is a best combination of the giving and the taking, and having kids is about disseminating variations on this combination. You can know none of this until it actually happens; the mere fact of telling you it is coming tells you nothing of substance, and in my view could provoke a reaction that might well prevent it from happening. Carol Clark may be very accurate, but I’m thinking maybe she should stick to past and present. The best attitude IMO is to relax, and wait and see.

[Pris]

As you know, we are quite rare. That makes us... special! ;)

Careful here: you are all special because you are unique, not because of any specific trait. There are only about 4% psychopaths, which makes them extra special both singly and collectively – so there’s nothing special about being special if you see what I mean. Because special people getting together and comparing notes are sharing their uniqueness, which is a bit of a paradox. You are a bunch of people boasting of being introverts, which, if I may say so, is a very extraverted thing to do :) You are more than meets the eye, that’s for sure. Your quality is both in what you have to give and in what you need to take.

Lol! Thanks for that, araucaria! ;) (notice winky-smiley face) Perhaps, you noticed I used a winky smiley-face when I said we were special? Of course, we are ALL special -- every single one -- right down to the last microbe. I like to joke around. Besides, I just found out being an INFP around here is not such a big deal lol -- practically everyone here is an INFP! ;) (notice winky smiley-face) Well, truth is there's a huge number of them. :)

Also, I do think it is absolutely normal and in character for introverts (particularly INFP types) to express themselves -- particularly with the written word. It's not out-of-character at all and that's why everyone's chatting like crazy around here. Bill Ryan suggests that there are mostly introverts around here typing away at their keyboards (sharing their inner worlds) because all the extroverts* are out partying. :biggrin1:

Note: I know I've got some sociopathic tendancies so does that make me extra special? :madgrin:

Also, I just found out after years and years of being an INFP (like over 70% introvert), I'm now an ENFP (but only by 7%). :peace:

*alternate spelling: extraverts

[Skyhaven]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

Are you very sure that the crying is because of feeling lonely romantically? My intuition says something else is causing these tears...

I personally believe a person should't look for the love of someone else to fill up a gap or a feeling of missing something within them. Self love is in my opinion the only basis for anything romantic being fruitful. And the paradox is, if the self is loved completely you don't depend on the love of anyone else anymore, and that's the point when the love is free to fly in, its no longer caged by expectations and dependence. As the saying goes: "Love is like a bird, see needs to fly"

[Natalia]

First I just want to share what I just wrote on another thread (about soulmates)


so true, and profound in many ways. Thanks Agape.

I am a believer that if you cannot be fully by yourself, alone, independent, you cannot have a real Relationship, you end up with relationships based on your unconscious make up - and dépendent fusion like attitude.


You may just be seeing me that way (as well as some others and whoever it may apply to) because of how I have opened up here on this forum and shared some of my heart, and soul, so openly...and honestly...

If that works for you, and I'm sure it does, then that's fine because it is your path...

I am both an independent and dependent woman, and I am not ashamed of it...that I sometimes feel like I need a man to be there for me...and that is sometimes, not always...

I believe in and luvs interdependence - the healthy kind, different to unhealthy codependency...this is my true nature, I am a team player...I am a giver and a taker...this suits me just fine...

I am not happy all the time when single, neither will I be happy all the time in a relationship...who is to say that I cannot have a (mostly) beautiful, healthy, relationship with a right man for me?

I will never be as independent (or as dependent) as some women...why? because that's just not me...

But, I still deserve love and am worthy of it and know that it can work with the right guy, not that there will be no difficulties

I have a lot of love to give, but at times I need it from others - I am human, and sensitive woman, after all...

I cannot be my own boyfriend or lover (maybe a bit at times, hehe :) but, you know...)...of course, myself and others, if we value and enjoy a loving compatible relationship with the right person, we will be happier and more content in that way when we finally experience that! :)

(btw, I sometimes feel sexy being a bit needy or needing and having some emptiness and longing for a man romantically and sexually...*giggle* :) )...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73289-Soul-Mates-from-an-ET-Perspective&p=867569#post867569

[Natalia]

Guys, is it "normal" to cry so much because of feeling lonely romantically? Would be so nice to have someone to hold and be together...those tears always come back, and often...guess it means that I need it...

I'll have virtual coffee and hug you any day of the week;), you can light the virtual candles now, but be quick, I have to be on the last train home again, until that time you can squeeze me until orange juice comes out of my ears, and yes when you feel like that you need it, go get it, there is no shame in that, just go get it, forget about that Prince in shining armour, he is a myth, life is not a fairy tale, just be realistic in your expectations, needs and wants are not the same thing dear Amethist, don't wait for that man to come by, go look for him, it takes two to play hide and seek, you can both seek or both find, look where you haven't looked before, don't wait, go fetch, no shame in that, none at all when it doesn't work out, one more lesson learned, catch your breath and next lesson, don't sweat it, that's how it works for many of us, maybe even the most of us, for me it does, go with the flow, but first create flow, get in there woman, go get them, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, put on your eyepatch and peg leg and go for it, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, eat them alive ( add personal preferred spices if needed).

hehehe :) (again!) that was what I needed to hear and feel, thank you!

I was feeling a bit sad waiting outside the shop for my mum when I read this, then when I started to read it I got all smiley and girly giggly in the street! :)

I imagine that you have loosened quite a few knickers with your witty and charming sense of humour! I can see why...

Anyway...:o

Yeah, I will, I will join a dating site again, was thinking about it again last night...(and maybe go on a few meet ups - as a mostly introvert, I have to be reminded of this at times, to make more effort to go out and meet new people...)...

I mean, I can connect with men here and elsewhere on the net, and some could be maybes, but they live in others countries, or are too young or too old, or whatever...so yeah...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Thank you all for other replies - I have not read most of the later ones (hense no like on them)...just skimmed a little and at the mo, feel it's not the right time to read and reply to them...later.

[Rich]

Point Three:

These resources help one stare clear of the stalker, sociopath and psychopath:

“The Dark Side of Cupid: Love Affairs, the Supernatural, and Energy Vampirism 2012,” By: Eve Lorgen
“2000 The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships,“ By: Eve Lorgen
“How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved,” By: Sandra L. Brown


RunningDeer <3

Dear Deer, I want to respectfully point out my opinion on this:

Unless your belief system is such that you think you have to read these
things to avoid certain dangers, don't bother with the things you do Not want,
think Only of what you Do want.
Most of these things turn your mind into the possibility of something
'bad' happening, and thoughts/believes create our experience.
That's why it's important to know/BE exactly what you want.
You will automatically attract that which is of your vibration.

[Pris]

I believe in and luvs interdependence - the healthy kind, different to unhealthy codependency...this is my true nature, I am a team player...I am a giver and a taker...this suits me just fine...

I am not happy all the time when single, neither will I be happy all the time in a relationship...who is to say that I cannot have a (mostly) beautiful, healthy, relationship with a right man for me?

I will never be as independent (or as dependent) as some women...why? because that's just not me...

But, I still deserve love and am worthy of it and know that it can work with the right guy, not that there will be no difficulties

I have a lot of love to give, but at times I need it from others - I am human, and sensitive woman, after all...

I cannot be my own boyfriend or lover (maybe a bit at times, hehe :) but, you know...)...of course, myself and others, if we value and enjoy a loving compatible relationship with the right person, we will be happier and more content in that way when we finally experience that! :)

(btw, I sometimes feel sexy being a bit needy or needing and having some emptiness and longing for a man romantically and sexually...*giggle* :) )...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73289-Soul-Mates-from-an-ET-Perspective&p=867569#post867569

Hehe... unhealthy co-dependency lol! I think I may have some of that. ;)

Hey, you know... I think you're over-analyzing everything a wee bit, and perhaps you are too consumed in 'wanting/needing'.

Some people here have suggested to 'just go with the flow'. Don't make yourself 'needy' or you'll end up with someone who'll likely take advantage of you.

Keep yourself in a happy place in your heart, show your zest for life, be care-free (free spirit unbound -- guys seem to like that) (yeah, easier said than done lol) and you won't be able to keep 'em off you! :thumb:

[RunningDeer]

Off topic.
:focus:

[Rich]

Self love is in my opinion the only basis for anything romantic being fruitful.
That is true but until the self love is complete why not fulfill our desires? It is the same thing.
Fulfilling our desires IS self Love!
The way to enlightenment is to fulfill all your desires,
you wont be able to do that without a great degree of self love, I guarantee it -
because you have to know what you Are to know what you want.

I know there can be confusion between material possession and true desire, that's why I said asking ourselves what we really want.

[araucaria]

Note: I know I've got some sociopathic tendancies so does that make me extra special? :madgrin:

Also, I just found out after years and years of being an INFP (like over 70% introvert), I'm now an ENFP (but only by 7%). :peace:
Hi Pris.
Overuse of smileys is likely a commonality of sociopaths and newbie extraverts. If you want to be extra special with me, you would have to communicate in proper writing - and... please watch your spelling.

[Pris]

Note: I know I've got some sociopathic tendancies so does that make me extra special? :madgrin:

Also, I just found out after years and years of being an INFP (like over 70% introvert), I'm now an ENFP (but only by 7%). :peace:
Hi Pris.
Overuse of smileys is likely a commonality of sociopaths and newbie extraverts. If you want to be extra special with me, you would have to communicate in proper writing - and... please watch your spelling.

Now, now... you are not being very nice. You've just insulted a lot of people here. And, I can communikate any way I like. :p

[araucaria]

Note: I know I've got some sociopathic tendancies so does that make me extra special? :madgrin:

Also, I just found out after years and years of being an INFP (like over 70% introvert), I'm now an ENFP (but only by 7%). :peace:
Hi Pris.
Overuse of smileys is likely a commonality of sociopaths and newbie extraverts. If you want to be extra special with me, you would have to communicate in proper writing - and... please watch your spelling.

Now, now... you are not being very nice. You've just insulted a lot of people here. And, I can communikate any way I like. :p
Sure, you can communicate in any way you like, but you cannot dictate to others how they are to react to that communication. They have their freedom too.

I am merely saying that we all need to be more articulate, and that obviously includes me since you completely misunderstand me. Let me explain. A post filled with emoticons from a borderline extravert admitting to slight sociopathic tendencies can have one of two effects. It can indeed seem slightly sociopathic because that condition often involves faking feelings that one doesn’t have, in which case a palette of emoticons would be a very useful tool. Alternatively it may be due to the somewhat forced efforts of an introvert to let their hair down. Either way, they do not show me your feelings as your own words would, they rather tend to hide them.

Beyond a general ‘To whom it may concern’, I had nothing particular to say about a whole bunch of people out there. I was merely reacting to your post and reflecting how to me personally it seemed to match your description of yourself. It is odd you should find that insulting. A little… introspection is in order perhaps. Have a lovely day.

[Natalia]

Sometimes I do quite a few smilies, cause I really am smiling...at times I don't put in another giggle because I think/feel that people will trust me less...seems that some people don't trust my inner child...but you know, with the help of some other inner childs, my inner child and theirs saved me and felt like my broken heart was healed...I got a few emails from people who said it helped to cheer them up, one of those persons was going through a very difficult time and it was nice for her (more than me) that it lifted her...thanks to all who supported me in the gi-gi thread, who understood the reason and energy behind why I made it.

I have chosen, no more psycho analysis (ok I have the book that Sidney suggested that arrived yesterday - but I mean, just as much as I need to)...less of saying and suggesting what is wrong with me...this has just been another part of the self love journey...

Now, I am going to have more fun-fun with inner child! :)

[Swan]

And, I can communikate any way I like. :p

Hello Pris, Please DO communicate any way you like. As far as I am concerned communication is about vibration, and has very little to do with speling.

And Hello Amethyst, I think you might enjoy Mama Gena...

CU9RAGiRdSE

[Natalia]

I will watch that soon this morning, thank you Swan.

[araucaria]

[QUOTE=Pris;867897]
Hello Pris, Please DO communicate any way you like. As far as I am concerned communication is about vibration, and has very little to do with speling.

Her spelling’s ok, that’s not the point. You can communicate how you like and even spell how you like, but you need to be aware that it is only half of the communication protocol. Other people will be sensitive to things you find of little importance and vice versa. It is not necessarily a problem but it can be, and although this comment I am making is a very much relevant to the present discussion, I accept that it may not seem that way to everyone.

[Pris]

Note: I know I've got some sociopathic tendancies so does that make me extra special? :madgrin:

Also, I just found out after years and years of being an INFP (like over 70% introvert), I'm now an ENFP (but only by 7%). :peace:
Hi Pris.
Overuse of smileys is likely a commonality of sociopaths and newbie extraverts. If you want to be extra special with me, you would have to communicate in proper writing - and... please watch your spelling.

Now, now... you are not being very nice. You've just insulted a lot of people here. And, I can communikate any way I like. :p
Sure, you can communicate in any way you like, but you cannot dictate to others how they are to react to that communication. They have their freedom too.

I am merely saying that we all need to be more articulate, and that obviously includes me since you completely misunderstand me. Let me explain. A post filled with emoticons from a borderline extravert admitting to slight sociopathic tendencies can have one of two effects. It can indeed seem slightly sociopathic because that condition often involves faking feelings that one doesn’t have, in which case a palette of emoticons would be a very useful tool. Alternatively it may be due to the somewhat forced efforts of an introvert to let their hair down. Either way, they do not show me your feelings as your own words would, they rather tend to hide them.

Beyond a general ‘To whom it may concern’, I had nothing particular to say about a whole bunch of people out there. I was merely reacting to your post and reflecting how to me personally it seemed to match your description of yourself. It is odd you should find that insulting. A little… introspection is in order perhaps. Have a lovely day.

First off... I'm not a 'borderline' extravert (is that the misspelled word I've bothered you with lol?)... according to the test I'm an extravert who is a borderline introvert. And, yes, I've got sociopathic tendencies and I admit it. I'm the one who let everyone know.

Allow me to explain where I 'come' from. Perhaps my scores on the Myers-Briggs test will help here:

Extraverted 7%, Intuitive 37%, Feeling 68%, Prospecting 27%, Turbulent 16%

I'm extremely sensitive, so, for what it's worth, it's easy to 'insult' me.

Because I feel so much, and because I care so much about others, I do not think I'm capable of faking my feelings. That's why earlier on, I said that my having sociopathic tendencies is an 'odd mix'.

When it comes to 'emoticons' or smiley-faces in general, those truly do state how I feel. I do not use them to hide behind and have found them extraordinarily helpful when communicating with people -- particularly young people. Because I communicate so much with young people, the habit stuck. For me, smiley's are fun and light-hearted. It's rare for me to sense a hidden agenda with the use (or overuse) of smiley's from other people. It suggests the person has a child-like quality that I find rather appealing. :yes4:

And, depending on the subject, I don't always use smiley's.

But, all that about having sociopathic tendencies, being a borderline extravert, and the overuse of smiley's didn't bother me.

This did:


If you want to be extra special with me, you would have to communicate in proper writing - and... please watch your spelling.

I've always felt my English skills are good -- not perfect, but pretty darn good.

Spelling is so unimportant (that part of the comment did not 'insult' me -- it amused me). When I was younger, I used to go after people for bad spelling. I realized later on I was being judgmental and that generally hurts peoples' feelings.

Sorry if I completely misunderstood you.

And, sorry to everyone else. This isn't about me, this is about Amethyst! :focus:

[Pris]

And, I can communikate any way I like. :p

Hello Pris, Please DO communicate any way you like. As far as I am concerned communication is about vibration, and has very little to do with speling.

And Hello Amethyst, I think you might enjoy Mama Gena...

CU9RAGiRdSE

Thank you, Swan! And, thanks for sharing this fantastic video! Yes! Pleasure is key! :bounce:

[Frank V]

[...]
And, yes, I've got sociopathic tendencies and I admit it. I'm the one who let everyone know.

[...]

I'm extremely sensitive, so, for what it's worth, it's easy to 'insult' me.

Because I feel so much, and because I care so much about others, I do not think I'm capable of faking my feelings. That's why earlier on, I said that my having sociopathic tendencies is an 'odd mix'.

[...]


From what you describe here, it does not appear to me as if you would have any degree of sociopathy at all, but more likely that you would be on the autism spectrum, and more specifically, afflicted with high-functioning autism, formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome.

When Hans Asperger first started looking into the phenomenon of autism, autism research was still in its infancy, and the people whom he was doing his research against were adolescents and young adults, as opposed to Leo Kanner in the United States, whose research was conducted against small infants. As such, and with the limited understanding of that time - we're talking the late 1940s here - Asperger initially (and incorrectly) referred to this condition as "autistic psychopathy". Meanwhile, a lot more research has been done in this area, and now the condition is somewhat better understood.

Myself coming from (among other things) a background training in the medical field, in combination with decades of self-analysis and introspection as a still recently enough diagnosed high-functioning autistic person, in combination with my own research into autism, I can see why high-functioning autism was initially perceived as a kind of psychopathy. After all, the entire DSM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5) ("Diagnosistics and Statistics Manual") is to date still based upon observable behavior, not upon an actual neuro-psychological understanding of the condition, and what is then observed is commonly that high-functioning autistic people don't display the emotions or reactions which are normally expected by neurotypical people, and when those emotions or reactions are expected. We don't always externalize what we feel, and sometimes a particular situation has to "sink in" for a while before we can actually feel anything about it at all.

But this is not psychopathy/sociopathy. Psycho-/sociopaths simply don't have any higher-level emotions. They are essentially very cold-blooded people, with only very rudimentary emotions - commonly they know lust, greed and anger, and they get very upset when their ego is bruised. They also don't understand the difference between good and evil, because they don't really have a conscience. There is no such distinction in their minds. They consider themselves superior to other people and treat everyone and everything as a commodity, for them to do with as they please. Although a separate condition, psychopathy quite often goes hand in hand with a narcissistic personality disorder, and sometimes with a Machiavellian personality disorder. When all three disorders are positively accounted for, we speak of the Dark Triad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad). Some researchers have in the meantime also already coined the term Dark Tetrad when there is a clear presence of sadism added to the mix. According to a very recent study, most Internet trolls would be either Dark Triads or Dark Tetrads.

I would also like to point out that just because you've never been diagnosed as autistic doesn't mean that you wouldn't be on the spectrum. In fact, most of the autistic people go by undiagnosed, because a diagnosis is commonly only cast after you've gone to see a psychologist or psychiatrist because of a problem. So long as there isn't any serious problem in interacting with the world around you, there is no incentive for anyone to test someone for an autism diagnosis. That is why autism is commonly equated in the popular opinion with the lower-functioning variants, such as the stereotypical "Rain Man" savant phenomenon, or the boy from "Mercury Rising", and unless you clearly manifest such behavior or difficulties, nobody would suspect that you have an autism spectrum neurology - least of all you yourself.

One thing that is true however is that psychopathy/sociopathy is commonly also linked to the autism spectrum, in the sense that most medically diagnosed sociopaths/psychopaths also typically test positively on autism spectrum tests, and quite often AD(H)D, which is also an autism spectrum manifestation. (Autism is not a single condition, but rather a syndrome with a deeper underlying cause, namely that the autism spectrum brain has a lot more neurons and synapses than a neurotypical brain.)

I'm not trying to derail this thread, but I felt that this elaboration was called for, given that you were being criticized over your personality and that you yourself have - in my opinion - misdiagnosed yourself as someone with psycho-/sociopathic tendencies. ;-)

:focus:

[Natalia]

And, sorry to everyone else. This isn't about me, this is about Amethyst! :focus:

please feel free to write about your own feelings, thoughts, experiences, I don't see it as my thread, I see it as our thread...

we are in this together :)

[Pris]

[...]
And, yes, I've got sociopathic tendencies and I admit it. I'm the one who let everyone know.

[...]

I'm extremely sensitive, so, for what it's worth, it's easy to 'insult' me.

Because I feel so much, and because I care so much about others, I do not think I'm capable of faking my feelings. That's why earlier on, I said that my having sociopathic tendencies is an 'odd mix'.

[...]


From what you describe here, it does not appear to me as if you would have any degree of sociopathy at all, but more likely that you would be on the autism spectrum, and more specifically, afflicted with high-functioning autism, formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome.

When Hans Asperger first started looking into the phenomenon of autism, autism research was still in its infancy, and the people whom he was doing his research against were adolescents and young adults, as opposed to Leo Kanner in the United States, whose research was conducted against small infants. As such, and with the limited understanding of that time - we're talking the late 1940s here - Asperger initially (and incorrectly) referred to this condition as "autistic psychopathy". Meanwhile, a lot more research has been done in this area, and now the condition is somewhat better understood.

Myself coming from (among other things) a background training in the medical field, in combination with decades of self-analysis and introspection as a still recently enough diagnosed high-functioning autistic person, in combination with my own research into autism, I can see why high-functioning autism was initially perceived as a kind of psychopathy. After all, the entire DSM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5) ("Diagnosistics and Statistics Manual") is to date still based upon observable behavior, not upon an actual neuro-psychological understanding of the condition, and what is then observed is commonly that high-functioning autistic people don't display the emotions or reactions which are normally expected by neurotypical people, and when those emotions or reactions are expected. We don't always externalize what we feel, and sometimes a particular situation has to "sink in" for a while before we can actually feel anything about it at all.

But this is not psychopathy/sociopathy. Psycho-/sociopaths simply don't have any higher-level emotions. They are essentially very cold-blooded people, with only very rudimentary emotions - commonly they know lust, greed and anger, and they get very upset when their ego is bruised. They also don't understand the difference between good and evil, because they don't really have a conscience. There is no such distinction in their minds. They consider themselves superior to other people and treat everyone and everything as a commodity, for them to do with as they please. Although a separate condition, psychopathy quite often goes hand in hand with a narcissistic personality disorder, and sometimes with a Machiavellian personality disorder. When all three disorders are positively accounted for, we speak of the Dark Triad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad). Some researchers have in the meantime also already coined the term Dark Tetrad when there is a clear presence of sadism added to the mix. According to a very recent study, most Internet trolls would be either Dark Triads or Dark Tetrads.

I would also like to point out that just because you've never been diagnosed as autistic doesn't mean that you wouldn't be on the spectrum. In fact, most of the autistic people go by undiagnosed, because a diagnosis is commonly only cast after you've gone to see a psychologist or psychiatrist because of a problem. So long as there isn't any serious problem in interacting with the world around you, there is no incentive for anyone to test someone for an autism diagnosis. That is why autism is commonly equated in the popular opinion with the lower-functioning variants, such as the stereotypical "Rain Man" savant phenomenon, or the boy from "Mercury Rising", and unless you clearly manifest such behavior or difficulties, nobody would suspect that you have an autism spectrum neurology - least of all you yourself.

One thing that is true however is that psychopathy/sociopathy is commonly also linked to the autism spectrum, in the sense that most medically diagnosed sociopaths/psychopaths also typically test positively on autism spectrum tests, and quite often AD(H)D, which is also an autism spectrum manifestation. (Autism is not a single condition, but rather a syndrome with a deeper underlying cause, namely that the autism spectrum brain has a lot more neurons and synapses than a neurotypical brain.)

I'm not trying to derail this thread, but I felt that this elaboration was called for, given that you were being criticized over your personality and that you yourself have - in my opinion - misdiagnosed yourself as someone with psycho-/sociopathic tendencies. ;-)

:focus:

Oh, wow. Thanks, Aragorn! This is so fascinating. I love this kind of stuff. :shocked: I'm definitely going to look into this further.

The reason why I may have (incorrectly) diagnosed myself as having sociopathic tendencies is because it runs in my family. And, I used to be a much bigger arse (can I say that?) than I am now. I've really learned to curb my.... tendencies. ;)

Note: I don't know if this matters to anyone, but 'extrovert' is an alternative spelling of 'extravert' (araucaria's got me all paranoid about my spelling now lol).

:focus: (I don't think this sign is working.)

[Frank V]

Note: I don't know if this matters to anyone, but 'extrovert' is an alternative spelling of 'extravert' (araucaria's got me all paranoid about my spelling now lol).


In that case, he would be having a field day with all the non-native English speakers and the dyslexics. (Note: Dyslexia is also an autism spectrum manifestation.) :p



:focus: (I don't think this sign is working.)


Somebody stepped on the power cord. It got unplugged. :p

[kanishk]

Hi, Amethyst

You can watch this movie: Wedding Daze. It might give you some relief.
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This movie is some kind of a American version of arranged marriage (Not talking about some of those horrific arranged marriages in India) like arranged cum love or love cum arranged or may be not, but I like this movie. There are no set social rules for meeting of peoples who would like each other.

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[Natalia]

Thanks kanishk, I will watch it later today, I love romantic comedies!

[thepainterdoug]

hello amethyst/ I'm sorry to hear you are depressed. its good that you reached out to friends here. i have and do feel this way many times. you are not alone. i have read some things that others have said to you here and all care and are concerned. i will offer you this so you know i care. pick your favorite flower, a crystal, an animal etc and i will make you a little painting and then send it to you. at the very least, this will show you i care and give you a surprise to look forward to. : ) my e mail doug@dougauld.com

[Natalia]

hello amethyst/ I'm sorry to hear you are depressed. its good that you reached out to friends here. i have and do feel this way many times. you are not alone. i have read some things that others have said to you here and all care and are concerned. i will offer you this so you know i care. pick your favorite flower, a crystal, an animal etc and i will make you a little painting and then send it to you. at the very least, this will show you i care and give you a surprise to look forward to. : ) my e mail doug@dougauld.com

Hi thepainterdoug, that's very kind of you, thank you, and has given me some more practice in receiving gifts. I will send you an email <3

(btw, I have been feeling quite a bit better the past few days, inner child helped, and I have ongoing ups and downs...had to accept it).

Amethyst

[araucaria]

Spelling is so unimportant (that part of the comment did not 'insult' me -- it amused me).


Good! – you did understand me, without a smiley. Smileys don’t go with deadpan humour.

[QUOTE=Pris;868083]
And, sorry to everyone else. This isn't about me, this is about Amethyst! :focus:
Good! – again, you got my point. Spontaneity in communication is all well and good, but one of the pitfalls is that you can stray off-topic. Amethyst says this is okay, and Amethyst is the boss around here. But why we usually avoid straying off-topic is because that is what trolls like to do; if you respond, they take you with them, and at some point you find yourself stranded, while the main thread is derailed as well.



From what you describe here, it does not appear to me as if you would have any degree of sociopathy at all,
Well, sticking entirely to what Pris actually wrote, we should really take her at her word. It is the old true/false paradox. She is obviously not a sociopath, because sociopaths are too economical with the truth to admit as much, or even to attain that degree of self-awareness. On the other hand, if she is being somewhat untruthful or self-deceiving, then that in itself would be some evidence of the sociopathic tendencies being described, however slight. This is the tendentious gray area that drew my response in the first place. I have a horror of diagnostic labels for mostly normal people, hence my hint that a little more care at the keyboard would be in order. It is certainly preferable to a visit to a mental health professional, especially as we fellow posters are not that, or in any case not acting as such here. We can only respond in lay terms to what is written. Careful writing means understanding that, regardless of one’s perceived level of proficiency, one is always saying more, and less, than one thinks. This is a fact of linguistic life. And past performance is no guarantee of present success: it never is. Complacency will always be found wanting at some stage.


I've always felt my English skills are good -- not perfect, but pretty darn good.

Since this is your truth, which I accept, you will appreciate the slight nuance if I wrote instead: ‘pretty darn good, but not perfect’. Always aim higher.

And of course, spelling is actually somewhat important. There are professional proof-readers in the legal publishing industry who check not only every comma, but also make sure that a comma that should be italicized is not in Roman. Such minutiae can change the entire meaning of a law – which is not to say that poor spellers are breaking the law, or writing BS; simply, it helps if we all do our best.

Have a smiley :)

[Pris]

And, sorry to everyone else. This isn't about me, this is about Amethyst! :focus:
Good! – again, you got my point. Spontaneity in communication is all well and good, but one of the pitfalls is that you can stray off-topic. Amethyst says this is okay, and Amethyst is the boss around here. But why we usually avoid straying off-topic is because that is what trolls like to do; if you respond, they take you with them, and at some point you find yourself stranded, while the main thread is derailed as well.

Isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?



I've always felt my English skills are good -- not perfect, but pretty darn good.

Since this is your truth, which I accept, you will appreciate the slight nuance if I wrote instead: ‘pretty darn good, but not perfect’. Always aim higher.

And of course, spelling is actually somewhat important. There are professional proof-readers in the legal publishing industry who check not only every comma, but also make sure that a comma that should be italicized is not in Roman. Such minutiae can change the entire meaning of a law – which is not to say that poor spellers are breaking the law, or writing BS; simply, it helps if we all do our best.

Have a smiley :)

Are you serious? Stop egging me on and we'll stop derailing this thread. :tongue1:

[Natalia]

Hi guys, whatever thread I start, i don't mind digressions or others sharing or discussing other things...especially if it helps them in some ways...

I am not boss of this thread! But I did start it when going through depression and feeling near the edge...this has past now (partly because of the help and support of others in this thread, thank you again <3). I no longer am feeling that bad...and so perhaps it is best that this thread is closed...?...

[Jake]

Amethyst, you are a gem! :) I am glad you are not feeling so blue!! :):)

Discussion closed by request of O.P.

Love to you all
Jake.

[Jake]

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