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Skyhaven
28th August 2014, 19:37
I've heard of this concept several times before. I'm not sure what to think of it. It feels very counterintuitive to me. Can anyone here help me to shed some light on this topic?
RunningDeer
28th August 2014, 20:07
Back in the mid-1970’s a boy friend and I were about to crash into a rock cliff formation. In those nano-seconds, I experienced myself split off into a whole other life and was pulled back into this one.
That visual is still as clear today as it was then. It was way, way before I understood anything. But somewhere within, I knew it to be ‘right’.
It’s helped me not to have to ponder it so much. What I do know is to allow the mystery to unfold without getting too intellectual about it. All the pieces will come together like most things do. In the meantime, I’m open to fill in the blanks with science, experiences and synchronicity.
RunningDeer <3
RunningDeer
28th August 2014, 20:15
If I can stop time, then it’s easy for me to know I can live in simultaneous time. I experienced this on June 9, 2012:
“Stopping Time”
This never happened before, and it’s a lesson for me to dial up the inner awareness.
Wolfie, my dog, and I were out for a walk at the local shopping mall. There’s patch of woods on the outer skirts where he does his business. This afternoon, he couldn’t wait and picked a spot where everyone is out and about doing their Saturday to-dos.
I’m looking down to see if he’s finished and feeling embarrassed. I’m aware of the inner dialogue of, “I hope no one comes by.” With my head still down, and eyes raised, I saw four cars suspended in time; two on the other side of the median and two with several car lengthens between coming in our direction. No sound. Then, in the next nano second, they drove on.
It took about 30 seconds for me to recollect what just happened. After the initial “can’t be, that’s impossible”, I let it alone and walked for a few moments. Then asked, “What happened just before that point in time?” I ran the tape backwards and came up with the emotion of embarrassment, coupled with wanting a different outcome.
Emotion + Desire = a powerful affirmation of I choose my reality
RunningDeer <3
linksplatinum
28th August 2014, 20:16
Would this consist of the concept of fractal dimensionalities? To be in more than one density at a time? Because to me that makes perfect sense with the OBE/Astral experiences, "you exist, yet you do not exist". George Kavassalis talks about this topic quite a bit, you should look him up. If I understood him correctly, he states that since the dawn of our creation, that our essense has literally left behind breadcrumbs of our soul in each, and every existence/form of being that we have ever been. Also, it was stated that a great majority of souls here now, only partially consist of about 25% of our true soul essense, and the remainder 75% of that soul essense is in each of the other fractal parts of those numerous densities and beings of other forms too. So, I wholly believe that this is the case for us all. It can be a mind blower to think about, but at the same time very humbling...
poetbil
28th August 2014, 20:22
I think Bashar made this concept mainstream
Jake
28th August 2014, 20:24
It is always NOW.. Even when you are living simultaneous lives. No matter what, as you experience it,,, it is NOW... To perceive the passing of moments,, matters not! :) We are multi-dimensionally tasking, even NOW.. ;) I can imagine the Higher Self playing a game of, lets say,, Chess. Each pieces 'experience' is being foreseen by the same, higher perspective,,, though the pieces don't know it..
In this way of thinking, we can be living simultaneous lives, right here in this 'timeline'.. Ha! :) What if I were an ET, in a small craft somewhere hidden, cloaked,, in an orbit around earth?? What if THAT was why I came to Earth in the first place... Perhaps the many lives we live simultaneously can 'heal' each other through a higher self connection.. Perhaps when you suddenly feel an emotional 'riptide',,, it is a bleedthrough from another experience that YOU are having simultaneously. The passing of moments matters NOT. Every PAST live that you have ever lived,,, you experience it in the NOW,,, (though there seemed to be the 'passing of moments'...) And furthermore,,, what if this earth-life experience is actually waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy in the past. But, of course we experience it NOW..
I think my brain hurts,,, ouch...
Jake.
Hervé
28th August 2014, 20:29
"NOW" is always in big troubles because it's always in between what's happened and what's yet to happen.... :)
linksplatinum
28th August 2014, 20:41
Let's go cook up a batch of some primo Ayahuasca, and "trip-out" hard on this, and see where it leads us... Who knows...we might just meet our other selves in the process and unify with our "source". That sounds exciting!!
...that's a joke
...ok not funny
...back to topic
Skyhaven
28th August 2014, 21:06
What if every scenario of reality you can think of is already here in the now in some parallel timeline but these 'circumstances' are just not that important compared to what you get out of it as a soul. Maybe you just 'energetically' get to choose which timeline you are drawn to for any particular lesson or lessons, for instance if you want to go 3000 years back that is fine too.
Maybe you as an individual is really a quantum you consisting of many individuals: many simultaneous lifetimes feeding into the same 'shared' you...
linksplatinum
28th August 2014, 21:21
...Hence we are the masters of our own destiny/journey, which when the lower vibrations get overwhelming can get overlooked at times... Then when that occurs, the practice of grounding can be very beneficial to get back to one's self, to keep from feeling out of touch/loopy, meaning you are literally scattered fractally.
Maunagarjana
28th August 2014, 21:50
I've heard of this concept several times before. I'm not sure what to think of it. It feels very counterintuitive to me. Can anyone here help me to shed some light on this topic?
It's something I've wondered about a lot. I suppose it depends on what level you are looking at it from. From our perspective, incarnations would seem to happen in a linear way. But from a higher level, like the level of the Oversoul, which exists in a higher dimensional level, it may be seen to happen all at once. But it does really seem, when looking at past life and between life regression transcripts that there is a general linear progression from less developed to more developed.
The idea that it could happen all at once does seem counter-intuitive, especially when considering the findings of Dr. Ian Stevenson about people being born with marks on their body where there was a wound from a previous life. And also, people have issues in their lives that are a result of past life traumas that have not yet been processed and healed.
But it could be that there is an illusion of linearity that is built into the whole process, and that the lives are "tied together" in a seemingly consecutive way, even though they happen simultaneously in different time periods. Also, something that we do in this life, might actually effect a life we lived centuries ago. Retro-causality - wrap your brain around that one! We live in a world of illusions within illusions within illusions, and I think perhaps this illusion of linearity just one of them.
Of course, it's not quite satisfying to our linear minds. But the linear reincarnation model isn't really supported by Dr. Michael Newton's exhaustive research. For instance, he found that incarnations can overlap. Meaning incarnations from ones Oversoul can exist during the same time periods simultaneously. This is why one perhaps shouldn't discount that someone could be a reincarnation of someone else because they were born before the other person died. The dates don't have to match up, apparently.
Like, as an example (and I'm just making this up for illustrative purposes), one might wonder, could Russell Brand be the reincarnation of John Lennon? John Lennon died in December 1980 and Russell Brand was born June 1975. Brand isn't a musician, but he does have some of the same personality traits and political views as Lennon. Brand would have been 4½ years old at the time of Lennon's death. But, according to Newton, it wouldn't matter if he was 4½ years old, or 24½ years old, they could still be portions of the same Oversoul, and thus be essentially the "same person", inasmuch as we are the same person as the other incarnations of our Oversoul.
Skyhaven
28th August 2014, 22:01
I've heard of this concept several times before. I'm not sure what to think of it. It feels very counterintuitive to me. Can anyone here help me to shed some light on this topic?
It's something I've wondered about a lot. I suppose it depends on what level you are looking at it from. From our perspective, incarnations would seem to happen in a linear way. But from a higher level, like the level of the Oversoul, which exists in a higher dimensional level, it may be seen to happen all at once. But it does really seem, when looking at past life and between life regression transcripts that there is a general linear progression from less developed to more developed.
The idea that it could happen all at once does seem counter-intuitive, especially when considering the findings of Dr. Ian Stevenson about people being born with marks on their body where there was a wound from a previous life. And also, people have issues in their lives that are a result of past life traumas that have not yet been processed and healed.
But it could be that there is an illusion of linearity that is built into the whole process, and that the lives are "tied together" in a seemingly consecutive way, even though they happen simultaneously in different time periods. Also, something that we do in this life, might actually effect a life we lived centuries ago. Retro-causality - wrap your brain around that one! We live in a world of illusions within illusions within illusions, and I think perhaps this illusion of linearity just one of them.
Of course, it's not quite satisfying to our linear minds. But the linear reincarnation model isn't really supported by Dr. Michael Newton's exhaustive research. For instance, he found that incarnations can overlap. Meaning incarnations from your Oversoul can exist during the same time periods simultaneously. This is why one perhaps shouldn't discount that someone could be a reincarnation of someone else because they were born before the other person died. The dates don't have to match up, apparently.
Like, as an example (and I'm just making this up for illustrative purposes), one might wonder, could Russell Brand be the reincarnation of John Lennon? John Lennon died in December 1980 and Russell Brand was born June 1975. Brand isn't a musician, but he does have some of the same personality traits and political views as Lennon. Brand would have been 4½ years old at the time of Lennon's death. But, according to Newton, it wouldn't matter if he was 4½ years old, or 24½ years old, they could still be portions of the same Oversoul, and thus be essentially the "same person", inasmuch as we are the same person as the other incarnations of our Oversoul.
Great stuff! maybe soulmates are part of the same oversoul too!
Maunagarjana
28th August 2014, 22:09
Great stuff! maybe soulmates are part of the same oversoul too!
Could be. But I think ones Oversoul, which is the sum total of all their incarnations, is part of a larger Over-Oversoul that comprises our soul group. Sort of like a conglomeration of many Oversouls. I'm not sure precisely how all these things might work. Also, we may have more than one soul mate who can come into play in various lives. You know, like a primary soul mate, secondary soul mate, and so forth.
ghostrider
28th August 2014, 23:01
the Bermuda triangle was good example of this , it was said three timelines all converge in that area ... a now earth , a past earth , and a future earth ... thanks to two distant suns whose rays intersect in that very spot , gravity and time are affected ... you were alive yesterday , today now is now , the only thing that changed was earth turned one time on it's axis ... it's still the same day as yesterday ... it is said the speed of the particles determines where your essence would be ... planes fly into those rays , and are sent back , or forward , never to be seen again ... this is the way it makes sense to me ... Waves from stars/Suns affect time/space/reality ...
Skyhaven
29th August 2014, 08:40
Maybe the simultaneous selves are in touch with each other to the point that we share ideas, intuitions, daydreams... or even that the dreamstate is a sort of 'meetingground' where there is some kind of exchange between the various timelines of the self.
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