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Bob
28th August 2014, 21:13
It is mutating, at an alarming rate, but.. some as recently as two weeks ago have said no .. Have they been mis-informed or was there something else afoot?

-->scientific post in the Forum: HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=870209&viewfull=1#post870209)

Predictions About The Ebola Outbreak (Source (http://www.popsci.com/article/science/four-predictions-about-ebola-outbreak))

* “Ebola is not airborne, and it’s extremely unlikely that it will mutate to be airborne,” Morse says. Although it’s theoretically possible, it’s incredibly rare for a pathogen to change its route of transmission.

(simply mis-informed? - couple studies from bioweapons type of organizations, now are showing it IS airborne (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=868660&viewfull=1#post868660) and the means used to contain it, are not adequate, nor are the means to shield health care workers (who are dying at an alarming rate) )

Financial times saying Ebola is not a super bug, it won't mutate - (Source (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2346ba26-22da-11e4-8dae-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Biq2xBcu)) -

The Ebola virus is one of the nastiest germs known to humanity, in its lethality and in the horrible way it kills, but we should not regard it as an invincible superbug. Its biology and genetics are well known after almost 40 years of scientific study, and about 40 previous outbreaks in central Africa have been stopped. While the present epidemic is the largest and most complex on record – and, lest we forget, by far the most devastating in its effect on affected communities – it too can be beaten through a combination of infection control, contact tracing and local solidarity. Yes, a supply of safe and effective medicines would help enormously, and with sufficient political will we should have one in time for the next Ebola epidemic, but it is not the key to victory." ( Simply mis-informed? )

DATA - IT IS MUTATING at an unbelievable rate
Reuters India 4PM EST reporting - Gene studies of Ebola in Sierra Leone show (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/health-ebola-genome-idINKBN0GS2FV20140828) virus is mutating fast ! )

"Genetic studies of some of the earliest Ebola cases in Sierra Leone reveal more than 300 genetic changes in the virus as it leapt from person to person, changes that could blunt the effectiveness of diagnostic tests and experimental treatments now in development, researchers said on Thursday.

"We found the virus is doing what viruses do. It's mutating," said Pardis Sabeti of Harvard University and the Broad Institute, who led the massive study of samples from 78 people in Sierra Leone, all of whose infections could be traced to a faith healer whose claims of a cure attracted Ebola patients from Guinea, where the virus first took hold.

"The findings, published in Science, suggest the virus is mutating quickly and in ways that could affect current diagnostics and future vaccines and treatments, such as GlaxoSmithKline's Ebola vaccine, which was just fast-tracked to begin clinical trials, or the antibody drug ZMapp, being developed by California biotech Mapp Biopharmaceutical."

Somebody not providing all the data? - (simply mis-informed?) (Source (http://www.examiner.com/article/us-government-mincing-words-to-avoid-widespread-panic-over-ebola-outbreak))

"Stephan Monroe of CDC’s National Center for Emerging & Zoonotic Infectious Diseases said that Ebola “Ebola poses little risk to the U.S. general population,” told reporters in a conference call. It’s because you have to be in direct contact with someone who is ill to become infected and that transmission is through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person.” He also stated that, “Individuals who are not symptomatic are not contagious."

Hindu Business Line -" thankfully ebola has not mutated..." (simply mis-informed?) "While these three viruses have emanated from infected animals, ebola has mercifully not mutated to become an airborne disease. Ebola spreads through body fluids, which means that general circumspection can go a long way in containing its spread. The World Health Organisation (WHO) has been confident enough to say that restrictions on air travel are not warranted. "

It goes on, the amount of reports and articles that can be found prior to August 20th, that it's not mutating, never had, nothing to see here.. spin, damage control or what?

Bob
28th August 2014, 22:09
JULY 30, 2014 - Expert weighs in, Ebola is not going to mutate

(Source (http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-ebola-virus-outbreak/)) - expert reaction to ebola virus outbreak

Concern over the largest Ebola outbreak in history has increased, prompting Foreign Secretary Phillip Hammond to convene COBRA.


Prof Tom Solomon, Director NIHR Health Protection Research Unit in Emerging and Zoonotic Infections, and Professor at Institute of Infection and Global Health, University of Liverpool, said:

Q10. How likely is it that Ebola will mutate into something that can spread more easily?

A10. “There is nothing to suggest this so far. The current outbreak is caused by Ebola Zaire strain, which is the most dangerous strain of the virus.”

(meanwhile gene sequencing studies were showing 300 mutations have happened in the Ebola virus taken from samples of people affected of this strain between May and June, 2014, data was available at LEAST a month prior to the "official informed stance" being told to the public)

Bob
28th August 2014, 22:18
In the blogs and other social media - likely not to mutate..

(Source (http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/75/5517166.page;jsessionid=68DA882CF0C6DB803D0BBF6FD6772C23.dcum1))

"We shouldn't be too concerned about Ebola spreading to the US or other wealthy countries. It's transmitted entirely through exposure to bodily fluids. In settings with Ebola, there's bleeding in a variety of places and the virus is present in those excretions, and people need to come into contact with that to get the virus. The people at risk are the family members who are taking care of sick people, those who are preparing bodies for burial, and health-care workers.

The virus is not transmitted through coughing and sneezing, or through sitting next to someone on a bus, plane or the like. The idea that the virus can somehow mutate and become more readily transmissible from person to person through coughing or sneezing—those are Hollywood scenarios. The idea that Ebola can become more readily transmissible through casual contact is unrealistic."

That is a sample of some of the dialog to poo-poo and repeat data obtained during the original '76 outbreaks, and a few later, where scientists felt that mutation risk was slim..

Flash
28th August 2014, 22:34
In some forms, good if the strain is mutated much faster than planned. This may tell PTB - listen PTB - that their vaccines they have prepared for themselves may not save them after all.

It may be what is necessary for PTB to take the measures to counter this epidemic, spread by air as well as contact.

Roisin
28th August 2014, 22:41
They are following the same pattern of response to questions on Ebola on if it mutates or not as they were and still are doing on the question if it's airborne or not.

You'd think these "experts" would do a simple look-up on the internet to get the correct information on this virus but, so far, it sounds like they are being ordered to remain consistent with a list of permitted talking points about this virus that they are not allowed to deviate from.

This concerns me greatly and it may indicate to us that things are so out of control now with this epidemic, they are out and out lying about things to prevent public panic.

Hervé
28th August 2014, 22:51
Your template is exemplified with the various characters who have been preaching from their "Inconvenient Truth" bible... politicians via scientists to laypersons.

Bob
28th August 2014, 23:15
Your template is exemplified with the various characters who have been preaching from their "Inconvenient Truth" bible... politicians via scientists to laypersons.

Voila ! ils bénéficient et le public perdent !

Matt P
28th August 2014, 23:56
This is not the right conversation to have. The mainstream media and mainstream scientific organizations are not to be trusted or listened to about Ebola. There is nothing to fear if you are willing to think outside the box of the fake reality control matrix. A healthy, alkaline body with a strong immune system, with basic knowledge of minerals and herbs, cannot be impacted by this or any other virus. My "guess" would be the elite DO NOT take vaccines as they would know vaccines do not, were never and will never prevent or cure disease but create it. Put away your fear of this, your concern for this, and learn about how to strengthen your immune system and know all the many natural anti-virals, anti-bacterials and anti-fungals that mother nature has so generously provided for your protection.

Matt

Flash
29th August 2014, 00:10
Matt, you are 43 and in good health. For many reasons, including karmic ones, some people are not in good health or are just plainly older and their immune system is rather on the slow motion. So if it is to kill the old and very Young, here we are. And add to this all those who have a so so system, most of us, because of pollution and chemicals in air and food, you kill everyone.

Add to this the cost of good food and the cost of natural remedies, most families cannot afford it. So yes, if it goes on, this will be for a preselected group to survive.

Also, the ones not impacted as I know of - without any help - will be those that are very very much evolved spiritually, which means a tiny tiny tiny oh so tiny subset of the non psychopath humans.

All this to say I do not agree with you, the prime example being Bob himself, whom, I am sure, is very aware of Health related habits, has himself good habits, and still, to remain alive, has had to use all of his professional knowledge to remain in front of and ever changing virus which killed his older mother.

Most people do not have nor the habits, not the knowledge of natural medecine as you or Bob have Matt, which means most of the population would die if this virus is spread in his actual state.

Do I want to live in an empty world governed by those who manufactured the viral killer? No

Bob
29th August 2014, 00:55
Cross post reference from the Hemorrhagic Fever thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=870324&viewfull=1#post870324)in Alt Medicine part of the Forum.

4 of the protesting "disbelievers" (who were initially in good health) who broke into the Clinic in WestPoint (the district towards the water outside of Monrovia, Liberia) have tested positive, and have come down with the Ebola viral infection. They continued to proclaim THERE IS NO EBOLA (obviously believing it would not affect them, while they were looting and helping to spread the disease by chasing out other infected people..)

When the "informed" try to ignore something that had been proven to be capable of mutating in 1976 (most likely how it transferred from another animal vector), and continue to downplay or poo poo the amazing capabilities of a virus to adapt, and go for ultimate survival for itself, it shows us an agenda is at work. Identifying why that is happening, why the downplaying of the obvious should be tantamount in people's minds.. Why are the officials, and their lackies trying to keep people in the dark, uneducated and superstitious?

Keeping people uninformed is a measure of control. That is where it really is happening, using spin, disinformation, misinformation, and an agenda is able to be pushed out. People that think they can survive an infection super, all power to you ! Just don't go out and infect someone if one becomes a symptom-less typhoid Mary carrier.

There are plenty of discussions about Ebola mutations, and other diseases, such as certain Hepatitis strains and typhoid going fully symptomless in certain individuals. I've started looking at the various medical articles just coming out, identifying the type of proteins and enzymes in such individual's cells, what gene code is allowing for the viruses to be fully active and able to spread, but to keep their host alive... THAT type of data should be understood, not pushed under the rug.

Selene
29th August 2014, 01:50
Bob, thank you so very much for the superb job you have been doing keeping us all informed on Ebola and its implications.

Best of Avalon, for sure.

Cheers and thanks again,

Selene