You create your experience

[Rich]

Bashar:

~You do not have to learn how to manifest, this is automatic.
Physical reality is really nothing but a mirror, a reflection, of what you
believe most strongly is possible, is probable, is true for you.


Shortened transcript from a Bashar audio :

You understand that you have already a core natural vibration that represents
the unique you that you are, yes? That core frequency beams from you all the
time just like a lighthouse beacon, you can't help it, you're always radiating that
core vibration that represents the true natural you.

Everything - everything that is in in alignment and is reflective of that core vibration
is doing it's best to get to you. Everything that is not representative of that core
true vibration is doing it's best to get as far away from you as it possibly can.

The things that are out of alignment with your true vibration that seem to still
stick around, is not because you're not attracting what is in alignment, it's
because your not letting go of what is out of alignment.

Everything that is attempting to get to you that is in alignment, if it's not coming
to you, it's not because you're not attracting it, it's because your keeping it at
bay with your believes.
That said the law of attracting is really about letting go, and letting in.


~What you say goes! Absolutely! But you have to pay attention to what
you are saying,because the Universe is always listening and always
responding and will not contradict you.


~You already have everything you desire. You contain it all. ~Bashar

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~To know yourself as fully as you can, is to recognize you already
contain everything your mind wants.


~What you get is what you chose, consciously or unconsciously.
To believe what's the most likely kind of thing you are capable of getting...

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~Nothing is happening to you, it can't, it can only happen through you,
because you are all there is in your reality.



Lester Levenson:

However, I began to see that I could regulate the amount of power and
intelligence for my own use and that I could have control of it. I liked that so I
began to dig at it.
I began to examine thinking, and its relationship to what was happening. And I
saw that whatever was happening had a thought behind it at some time prior.
And that the reason I had never before related the two was because of the
element of time between the thought and the happening.
But I did discover that with everything that was happening to me I'd had a
thought of it before it happened; and that, if I could grab hold of this concept and
find a way to use it, I could consciously pre-determine everything that would
happen to me!
Above all, I saw that I was responsible for everything that had happened to me,
formerly thinking that the world was abusing me! And I saw that my tremendous
effort to make money and then losing it was due only to my thinking; that I had
been always seeking happiness, and thought that making money would do it. So
whenever the business started to make money, and the money did not bring me
the happiness I wanted, I began to lose interest and the thing collapsed. I had
always blamed it on other people and circumstances, not realizing that it was
simply my subconscious knowledge that this is not happiness which caused me
to lose interest and that, in turn, caused the business to collapse.
This was a tremendous piece of freedom, to think that I am not a victim of this
world, that it lies within my power to arrange the world the way I want it to be;
that rather than be an effect of it, I can now be in control of it and arrange it the
way I would like it to be. That was a tremendous realization, a tremendous
feeling of freedom.
~Excerpt from Lester Levenson Story


Let me conclude with the following: You are responsible
for everything that you feel. It's your feelings; it's your
thoughts. You turn them on; you think them, and no one
else but you does it, and you act as though you have no
control! You turn a faucet on your head and you say.
“Oh, someone is getting me all wet.” It's you who's
turning on the faucet and getting yourself wet. So your
direction has been, remains, and will be, take full
responsibility for what's happening to you.
~Lester Levenson (from the book Keys to Ultimate Freedom)



Ramana Maharshi:

The world does not exist in sleep and forms a projection of your mind in
the waking state. It is therefore an idea and nothing else.

[joeecho]

Excellent 'stuff' (thanks) but that is just me reflecting (my reality)....

Wait, did 'I' just thank 'myself'? ;)

[Omni]

Sorry but I have to call the BS card on this one. In many forms we create our own lives, but we also live with others. Some of this premise holds merit IMO, but try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.


The things that are out of alignment with your true vibration that seem to still
stick around, is not because you're not attracting what is in alignment, it's
because your not letting go of what is out of alignment.
And it's not because we inhabit reality with other people who also affect us?...... :bs:

[Skyhaven]

Sorry but I have to call the BS card on this one. In many forms we create our own lives, but we also live with others. Some of this premise holds merit IMO, but try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.


The things that are out of alignment with your true vibration that seem to still
stick around, is not because you're not attracting what is in alignment, it's
because your not letting go of what is out of alignment.
And it's not because we inhabit reality with other people who also affect us?...... :bs:

But we do have a choice to turn things around... Bashar is all about flexibility, to not hold on to things that don't work, or to not be a victim, to lighten up and learn that circumstances do not 'matter' that only state of being 'matters' (meaning that circumstances do not create things of matter, but state of being does)... if one truly wants to change and one has their belief system (and the definitions in them) of what is true sorted out, then it will cost much less effort to create more harmony in ones life.

Of course negative outside forces can come into a person's life, but that doesn't mean they are going to mess up your alignment if you are willing to stand up for it, and take action according that alignment.

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[joeecho]

In many forms we create our own lives, but we also live with others. Some of this premise holds merit IMO, but try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.


(Food for thought, no need to try it if it looks too exotic for your taste)

“The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are." - Bill Hicks

[Rich]

Omniverse, that is true from a personal perspective but from a higher
perspective the unconditionally loving Being that You are
allows everyone and everything to be as they are, allows everything to be
as it is(because it is all of it), otherwise it could not be.


Lester Levenson recommended taking responsibility for everything that happens to us.
When something would happen to me I asked myself ''How did I cause this?''
as Lester Levenson taught and then look into my mind and find the thought or
at least the attitude that caused the incident.
By taking responsibility for what happened to me I could change it.
As Bashar said nothing happens to you, it happens through you because you are all of it.

[DeDukshyn]

Sorry but I have to call the BS card on this one. In many forms we create our own lives, but we also live with others. Some of this premise holds merit IMO, but try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.


The things that are out of alignment with your true vibration that seem to still
stick around, is not because you're not attracting what is in alignment, it's
because your not letting go of what is out of alignment.
And it's not because we inhabit reality with other people who also affect us?...... :bs:

You are correct in the sense we do live with "others" but we still fully create our experiences with or without those "others". For example, One may see one person as "a miserable manipulative controlling being" and another may experience that same being as "a being in need of love and satisfaction for his own experiences." -- these choices, or creations of experience are truly our own.

However there is what I call "the human conspiracy" where we silently agree to support each other's suffering, so as to cater to agreements that only "others" create bad experiences for us and we ourselves only create "good" experiences for ourselves. I don't see this as being accurate in the grand scheme of things ... my 2 cents ;)

[Mu2143]

yes, indeed you create your reality but that does not mean you
your physical self creates it.
It is your soul that creates it. But for most your not in control of creating
that reality that you want ,because everyone does not use 100% of the
brain and for most only around 10% is what your are using.
What your are really are doing is when you a sleep and if
you are showen and see it then you know what it is going on.
But that are just snapshots of your real actions.

So in a nut shell most people are creating there reality according
to the program that is running which you want to break free of and
does thing aren't spirit and yet everyone is holding on to
the things that this world has created keeping you enslaved to it.

This also has do with the color of your aura ,because this is your life path your on
for does who want to know. If you have white and/or a golden aura or lower color

it is important not to fight and hold on to stuff and live a simple life and only look for what you need and if some one needs help that you help them
if you can even if it was by giving some one money for
food when you just had enough to buy for your self that day.

This is called righteousness and is the only way to get free.
I know Jessica Schab was put in that situation and did
the right thing by trusting that everything would come out fine.
This is the fear of having no money to buy food

So that it is letting go of is harder then you think to get free of the system you are born in to.
But it is very simple if you know what do and if your are willing to let go of does things you are more prepared for it.

Does things you are holding on to aren't always known to your self ,because
it are the action in the spiritual realm that where you do most of the action.
And most of the people will defend what they have.

healing your self is by practicing righteousness and trust that everything will be fine.

it all sounds great that you create your own reality ,but it can be a big trap
if you think you can do what every you want to do.
because everything you can do can kill the spirit or not. So choose wisely!!!

[Rich]

Thank you MU, I feel you've made some very important points.

Lester has told us the only happiness there is is the Self.

What I want is, to BE what I am.

[Rich]

Every single individual on this planet is already powerful as he or she needs to be to create any reality desired,
without having to hurt yourself or anyone else to get it. That's how powerful you are. ~Bashar

[Rich]

It is impossible that anything should come to me unbidden by myself.
Even in this world, it is I who rule my destiny.
What happens is what I desire.
What does not occur is what I do not want to happen.
This must I accept.
~ACIM

[rgray222]

Allowing ourselves to observe experiences allows us to make more informed and educated decisions. Observation is an important element in the development of our evolution. Much of today’s society revolves around ‘doing’ rather than ‘being’ and observing. Take notice of your experiences. Too often we overlook, turn away, and do not learn from our experiences. Rarely do we take a long hard look at our experiences and learn from them. We walk right back into the same old patterns and bad habits. Only by observing as the great masters do, can we learn and understand that our experiences are neither good nor bad. It is how we perceive them and what we learn from these experiences that make a difference. We must ask ourselves, what did I learn from that experience and what can I take away from it? Why did this happen to me? What impact did my actions have on others and the environment? The choices we make and how we interpret interactions creates our experience of life. It is the choices we make that determine what kind of life we live. Do we want to live a life of misery or happiness? Our thoughts control how we react to others and our environment. By understanding we are in charge, we control our destiny can we move from a world of separation to one of connectedness, love and compassion.


Sorry but I have to call the BS card on this one. In many forms we create our own lives, but we also live with others. Some of this premise holds merit IMO, but try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.


The things that are out of alignment with your true vibration that seem to still
stick around, is not because you're not attracting what is in alignment, it's
because your not letting go of what is out of alignment.
And it's not because we inhabit reality with other people who also affect us?...... :bs:

Anger can be used to motivate an individual or society, when that anger moves to hatred and is passed from generation to generation it severely damages society. Once that hatred becomes so entrenched (a way of life) then that damaged society uses their human and natural resources for war. It really does not matter who is right and wrong in this conflict, the point is neither society is stopping long enough to take a hard look at what they are doing.

[Rich]

The only reason the world doesn't serve us with affluence and an abundance of everything,
is that we are holding on to thoughts to the contrary. We must make the subconscious, conscious,
and let go of these non-winning feelings and programs... ~Lester Levenson

[Skyhaven]

This one of Bashar's is also one of my favs that makes a lot of sense to me, and is also relevant with regards to this topic:


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[Rich]

We are creating all the time. It is just that our subconscious is [getting produced] out there and we don’t like it. ~Lester Levenson

[Delight]

I respect the information form Bashar though it challenges me and like other nformation, the truth seems to be found where great paradox is also seen. So for instance one can find truth in a lie and a lie in truth depending on many factors? I KNOW that there are aspects of the idea that do not seem to make sense. Also, over my life, I saw more and more how this is true by my own experience. As one of my friends said: There are different contexts and when people try to communicate, if the context is not in alignment, the communication cannot be understood.

I do think that I am creating my experience and find support to this idea from many sources. Lately i feel very frustrated because I cannot find meaning in the activities that were importnt. Because I am 59, I am dealing personally with many programs and I actually think I chose this null zone state because I am rewriting my life script.

Bashar says that here are certain directions we have already chosen (like a hallway) and yet HOW we proceed is up to us...like skipping, jumping, running dawdling, or maybe flying? I wonder, are we actually choosing to begin a whole new direction THIS TIME without dying?

Bashar also says there is no inherent "meaning" and we "make the meaning. I see and many others see too that the Technosphere is not the answer AND an "Archaic Revival" where we go back to some old way is also seeming to be unsatisfying??

Bashar aslo says "Circumstances do not matter, only state of being matters" Well, if our state of being is changing very wildly and not conformng to any past experience, won't there seem to be a point of chaos and confusion?

So, my question is "what if we do not know HOW to create something that wa never created?"
That is where I agree that I am willing to surrender to my larger beingness. This means that given I cannot see any future, I feel my "meaning" is so unfamiliar and so strange that I must trust that there is a larger "knowing" beyond anything I could possible have a meaning on.

So I will not despair at this so strange juncture in creating a reality that looks impossibly "blank" for the moment. I will deliberately choose the meaning that Benevolence leads through the hallway. I can personally choose to be joyous in this weird "place" so I will. This is a principle of metaphysics to feel good just because one may do that in any "circumstance".

I appreciate Bashar and Lester Levenson and all those who speak to me about the rightness of the "principles" in any crazy seeming "circumstance".

Just curious: has anyone else been struggling with not having a connection to one's purpose?
Maggie

[Sidney]

This is a great thread, and an insightful OP. BUT.. we also need to acknowledge that we do not live in a black and white reality, but many many shades of grey (and color :) ) my point being, you can try to manifest all the will and happy reality you want, but there ARE forces that are playing against (some) peoples free will.
When living sise by side with other dimensions,entities,and even other humans playing around with black magic and the likes, it is just not that simple to say we all created our own reality.
That said, it is good to remind ourselves that we do have SOME power that we may have given up on using, because of being beaten down.

[Rich]

So for instance one can find truth in a lie and a lie in truth depending on many factors?
I KNOW that there are aspects of the idea that do not seem to make sense.

Then discard the info that does not resonate or look at it from a perspective that makes sense to you. (Bashar's advice)
I read your post 3 times but not sure what you are saying.


Sidney, there are certain rules/laws for this 'game' but Bashar has clearly said there is nothing outside of you, there is No outside.

[Finefeather]

try telling people who live in the Gaza strip they create their own reality... Doesn't work that way IMO as we are living in the same reality as others, and they can influence us as well.

And it's not because we inhabit reality with other people who also affect us?...... :bs:
The reason you don't live in the Gaza strip is exactly because that life is not your chosen reaping...but all those living in the Gaza strip are there for a very specific reason...and their choice...even if you or I or any one of them may have no idea of the reason.

According to karma...which is not as simple as we may imagine...everything that happens to us is a direct response or effect of our own past actions...however we should try not to be too clever and see this as a literal eye for an eye form of 'justice' ...because every action or thought leads to a vibration or energy signature in us which needs to be harmonised with the laws of life...this harmonising process is karma, and it can come in the form of many different situations which we choose in order to work out...or enjoy...the karma...we have accumulated...be it 'good' or 'bad'.

We are each, as individuals, part of a clan or family of Beings, at a similar state of development...together we incarnate in large or smaller groups, or even twos and threes, to work through and assist each other with our development as humans...and, development is consciousness expansion...

Even our place of birth...our mother and father...our city...our country...our suburb etc etc, have things to do with our development that we are mostly completely unaware of...unless we start paying more attention.

Take care
Ray

[Grizz Griswold]

Great thread EmEx.

Lester Levenson had much insight.

To put this to use one needs to take responsibility.

We usually prefer to see all difficulty as being from outside our self.

Keep it up. EmEx...All the best...barry

[Finefeather]

but there ARE forces that are playing against (some) peoples free will.
Yes...ONLY if we do not have the knowledge and awareness of the nature of life and what it can be like if we are blind and inexperienced...when you live in the jungle you must know that there are things out there who want to eat you :)

[Jake]

Let's not forget that through manipulation and deceit,, one can get SOMEBODY ELSE to create THEIR reality... Just because they don't know that they are being manipulated,,, doesn't mean that they aren't. Amazing creator beings, fooled into thinking that they are just smart monkeys,, creating what they are told to create!!!

Jake.

[Daughter of Time]

While I appreciate what the OP is telling us, I cannot agree!

Lead me to a way to free myself of all the programmings, manipulations, brain washings, traumas, conditionings, etc., etc., etc., that I've received in this lifetime and others, and then you can tell me that I'm experiencing what I'm creating myself, on my own, of my own free will!

Until then, I may be part co-creator, but definitely not full creator of my own reality!

[Finefeather]

While I appreciate what the OP is telling us, I cannot agree!

Lead me to a way to free myself of all the programmings, manipulations, brain washings, traumas, conditionings, etc., etc., etc., that I've received in this lifetime and others, and then you can tell me that I'm experiencing what I'm creating myself, on my own, of my own free will!

Until then, I may be part co-creator, but definitely not full creator of my own reality!
Because you do not see the reason, and your part in the 'tough' life you think you are having, does not mean you are not responsible...it may just mean you don't want to believe it...or don't want to admit it.
Only we, individually, can see the truth, if we let the truth of the matter rise into our consciousness...but alas, not many of us can see the bigger picture of our past actions and how our current life fits into this picture...so all we can do is claim innocence and "not my fault".

You will just have to wait till you die before you get the whole picture...I guess :)

Love to you
Ray

[Jake]

I am fascinated by this subject... (to say the least, lol) :) Of course we create our own realities. Please allow me to refer to a couple of parables. (probably not the kind of proof that we are looking for,, but)...

Consider the following short parable. To me, it reflects the ability of a single being to manipulate the reality of others,,, while the others have no idea that they are creating a reality that is NOT their own..


Once there was a very rich magician who had a great many sheep. But at the same time this magician was very mean. He did not want to hire shepherds, nor did he want to erect a fence about the pasture where his sheep were grazing. The sheep consequently often wandered into the forest, fell into ravines, and so on, and above all they ran away, for they knew that the magician wanted their flesh and skins and this they did not like.

At last the magician found a remedy. He HYPNOTIZEd his sheep and suggested to them first of all that they were immortal and that no harm was being done to them when they were skinned, that, on the contrary, it would be very good for them and even pleasant; secondly, he suggested that the magician was a GOOD MASTER who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them; and in the third place, he suggested to them that if anything at all were going to happen to them it was not going to happen just then, at any rate not that day, and therefore they had no need to think about it. Further, the magician suggested to his sheep that they were not sheep at all; to some of them he suggested that they were lions, to others that they were eagles, to others that they were men, and to others that they were magicians.

And after this all his cares and worries about the sheep came to an end. They never ran away again but quietly awaited the time when the magician would require their flesh and their skins.




Now consider this parable.. To me, it reflects how we create, and recreate reality at the heart level.. Manifestation of the physical, is secondary.. Also, this parable reflects how easily 'reality' is misunderstood, based on what we, ourselves have blinded ourselves from... (The eyes are not just receivers, they are also projectors,,, Jim Carrey.)


From Illusions, by Richard Bach...
Once there lived a village of creatures along the bottom of a great crystal river. The current of the river swept silently over them all -- young and old, rich and poor, good and evil -- the current going its own way, knowing only its own crystal self.
Each creature in its own manner clung tightly to the twigs and rocks of the river bottom, for clinging was their way of life, and resisting the current was what each had learned from birth.

But one creature said at last, "I am tired of clinging. Though I cannot see it with my eyes, I trust that the current knows where it is going. I shall let go, and let it take me where it will. Clinging, I shall die of boredom."

The other creatures laughed and said, "Fool! Let go, and that current you worship will throw you tumbled and smashed against the rocks, and you will die quicker than boredom!"

But the one heeded them not, and taking a breath did let go, and at once was tumbled and smashed by the current across the rocks.

Yet in time, as the creature refused to cling again, the current lifted him free from the bottom, and he was bruised and hurt no more.

And the creatures downstream, to whom he was a stranger, cried, "See a miracle! A creature like ourselves, yet he flies! See the messiah, come to save us all!"

And the one carried in the current said, "I am no more messiah than you. The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go. Our true work is this voyage, this adventure."

But they cried the more, "Savior!" all the while clinging to the rocks, and when they looked again he was gone, and they were left alone making legends of a savior.



Just some food for thought.
Love to all
Jake.

[Delight]

So for instance one can find truth in a lie and a lie in truth depending on many factors?
I KNOW that there are aspects of the idea that do not seem to make sense.

Then discard the info that does not resonate or look at it from a perspective that makes sense to you. (Bashar's advice)
I read your post 3 times but not sure what you are saying.


OK, just to try to communicate more clearly.

example...the OP is "you create your experience". It looks like I do create. I see a different context now for me than earlier. I am NOT creating a meaning as I once experienced it. The trajectory may be that as I am "aging", I am seeing that the reality offered is a series of programs toward death?
Like retirement, like disability and illness pending.

My experience is that I do see these as un-necessary if i stop giving meaning to the "normal" program. But I am also rather "bored" by the old interests so what does this "life" mean to me?

Before:
Belief in a direction
Focus on the "desired reality"
create the moves toward a realization of "success"
SUCCESS happens (despite life issues and struggle)

Now
Disillusionment about the value of what was once meaningful
have stuff, do things, relationships, all this becomes less meaningful
Having these "creations" is seeming not "success"
The "desired reality" is questioned

What now?
That is why I ask if other people have some sense of lost purpose?
If no amount of "creating" seems relevant but I am still not seeking death, it feels like a weird place.
Is a NEW Plan unknown so that is whay it seems so "zero".
Is this cooperating in "rebirth"? that happens without dying?
Seeing a null zone in the "hallway" What am I "creating?"

So then the dependence on trust in a larger context is necessary and the idea that maybe this trust "is the purpose"???
Maybe this is just me but hope this communicates more clearly?

[Finefeather]

it reflects the ability of a single being to manipulate the reality of others,,, while the others have no idea that they are creating a reality that is NOT their own..

Hi Jake
I agree with this idea...it happens all around us...even parents are doing it to their children...but the prime cause of this is ignorance...and the prime cause of ignorance is a lack of knowledge and personal experience of life...even after 1000s of incarnations.

I cannot help noticing how, mostly, people think they are so 'un foolable' when in fact we are far from the highly intelligent being we thing or claim to be...we are still babies, and easily manipulated...unfortunately our ego's are still just a tad still in total command...but this is 'normal' for our state of consciousness, and in another few 100 incarnations or so, we will begin to realise a little more about who we are and what we're doing here...and probably look back, and smile, at how stupid we were, and how great we thought we were, and how easily we were manipulated by the dark forces, back then...just like we are doing to those who lived on earth way back in the old old days...and guess what...those stupid people were us :)

With Love
Ray

[donk]

Sure, maybe a 1000 years from now, when we ascend to a greater awareness (less ignorance) of our existence, no longer able to be manipulated by “dark forces”, this may be a practical train of thought….but the level I exist on now, to me, Bashar and Lester cross the line of just taking your OWN personal responsibility to what I almost perceive as almost an arrogance.

I experience a reality with beings and existence outside of what I consider myself to be (whether nothing exists outside of you in your reality or not). Whether I created this reality subconsciously is irrelevant and mostly impractical to me, even if you are correct and I am lying to myself that this external “exists”.

I used to try to understand what I consider my smartest friend understood when he knows there is NO free will…that is his reality. I have considered it, thought deeply on it, examined any emotions tied to the idea, and decided, sure—maybe he is right, it may be true it is only the illusion of free will. That’s real enough to me.

Same with this. Maybe everything outside of myself is some illusion or projection or a lie to myself. That’s fine, but it feels real enough to me that it doesn’t make any difference, it is not useful in shaping my behavior.

I take responsibility for the things that feel like free will to me. Maybe that is what you are saying. But I would personally never limit my reality to that being All That Is, which is what I fel like Lester and Bashar do.

[Delight]

I take responsibility for the things that feel like free will to me. Maybe that is what you are saying. But I would personally never limit my reality to that being All That Is, which is what I fel like Lester and Bashar do.

There is definitely something that we know to be our own "reality". but what is so interesting and also known is that when one changes one's perception, as for instance with the other "people", everything changes.

The example was given by Mu2143


live a simple life and only look for what you need and if some one needs help that you help them
if you can even if it was by giving some one money for
food when you just had enough to buy for your self that day.

I know that when I have ever let go of worry about my own needs and given freely from a place knowing that there is always enough, there is always enough. There is a tendency to "grasp" out of reluctance in case we "need" something. It can well be proved that when expected that there is not enough, there is never enough in my experience. This is always proved false if I ignore The fear. So, how can this be true if we are not at least connected to "All That IS"??

[donk]

I didn't say I wasn't conneted, I didn't even mean to imply that I was not part of All That Is...the thing that bothers with this (what appears to me to be) near-solopsism is saying that there is nothing outside of me.

I am not saying it is not true, like i would never say that it is true that free will exists...I am just saying that I live in the at-least-an-illusion-of an existence that is greater than me that others (that are not me and therefore EXTERNAL or outside of me) can effect, with at-least-the-illusion-of free will, a self that can effect it (admittedly the less ignorance about it, the MORE i can effect it).

[donk]

If a tree dramatically misemphasizes a syll-AB-le
Channeled by Bashar
In the reality that I created
Which YOU do not exist outside of
Does the forest exist?

[Finefeather]

i would never say that it is true that free will exists...
Free will does exist...it is just that we seem to have the wrong idea about what free will is...

The idea that having free will gives us complete freedom to act as one wishes is just not correct in my experience...
Free will still lives inside the laws of life...which says that each have free will...provided it does not impinge on the free will of another...

If we live by this then freedom is attained...because everyone is considered.

[rgray222]

To have a happy life is to live without fear. Human beings are primarily motivated by two underlying emotions, love and fear. These two extremes influence every aspect of our lives. Fear is situated at one end of the spectrum while love is at the other end. On an economic and societal scale we can see that entire industries are dedicated to and thrive on fear.

Wisdom teaches us to release fear,one who lives life through tenderness and kindness needs no approval from any man or society. External forces are pulling us in the the direction of fear and internal forces are pulling us in direction of love and kindness that it why we need to be centered, balanced in the middle. It allows us to understand fear but live our lives with compassion and love.

It is so important that we step back and learn from our experiences and our conditioning. It is critical to stop all the chatter around and evaluate what has transpired and what we are going to do with that information. It is the only way to create the next experience in your life that is meaningful and moves your soul forward.

[Jake]

Interesting that the concepts of 'free will' and 'creation' seem to be inseparable. :) That makes me smile and grin with great joy.. :):)

Free will and creation are only limited by our capacity to engage them, and our limited understanding of the Universe.. Tom Campbell (for one) has explained it brilliantly..

We have free will up to a point,, and that point is 'everything that we know'. Within those limits, we are all forced to make our choices. Yet 'everything that we know' is clearly very limited, so our concepts of 'free will' are not quite accurate. IMHO... I have always considered 'creation' and 'experience' the same thing. These things (everything we know, creation, experience) are all that we have to use to make our free will decisions, and to project our futures...

We have to take responsibility for our own souls... If our EVERY THOUGHT does not start there,,, then what is being created, and what will manifest,, may not be (to our knowledge) what we asked for...

Love to all
Jake.

[Rich]

Accept Reality as a reflection of you.
You're not a victim in any way, shape or form, on any level whatsoever.
Unless you decide that's the game you want to play, and if you do,
it will be allowed, because you are always supported in everything
you decide is true. ~Bashar

[Sidney]

Tell that to the millions of children who have been raped over the years, many even in infancy. They did not create that reality, I am sorry but there IS such thing as being victim. That is a reality.

[Omni]

While I appreciate what the OP is telling us, I cannot agree!

Lead me to a way to free myself of all the programmings, manipulations, brain washings, traumas, conditionings, etc., etc., etc., that I've received in this lifetime and others, and then you can tell me that I'm experiencing what I'm creating myself, on my own, of my own free will!

Until then, I may be part co-creator, but definitely not full creator of my own reality!

The problem is, people who believe this philosophy have never had an external force in their lives to the degree others(like you and I) have. Is it really me creating my reality when an electric signal forces me to puke, as they have done to me countless times? How about when I lay down to sleep and I have synthetic pain signals flowing in severe fashions. Or when my mind is being controlled in ways that I cannot stop. Or when I'm talking to someone and they delete my train of thought or totally take control of my speech while I sit there and listen to them control what comes out of me, as a complete observer... I find bashars take on this ridiculous personally.

It is very easy to see bashars take as reality when you are not adversely affected by a group perpetrating injustices to you, beyond your control, and absolutely impossible to stop beyond becoming complicit, or being fed an illusion meant to propagate disinfo as to how to stop it. I personally think Bashar is manipulated. I found proof of this when bashar said the vibration of his channeler show him it is not deceptive.. And that to channel someone you have to be similar to them.... This is extremely naive on his part. Any vibration or frequency can be put into the mind via technology while conversing telepathically(or channeling). Essentially there is no 100% verification for any being speaking to you telepathically. Essentially every energy is on the table when it comes to technology. I do know for sure Bashar has naivety when it comes to how channeling works... I highly doubt the thought of it being technological ever crossed his mind. I do respect him. I believe he is a pretty grounded and wise person... But that said I believe he is a US government asset if I had to guess(one of their finest!).


Tell that to the billions of children who have been raped over the years, many even in infancy. They did not create that reality, I am sorry but there IS such thing as being victim. That is a reality.

The children who get raped vibration's isn't high enough to transcend into a timeline where they do not get raped! *rolleyes*(I dont roll my eyes IRL but on the net i find a use for the premise)

I totally agree with you sidney.

[Rich]

Oh, dear this was not my intention at all.
I am not saying that your ego is an all powerful creator, but that which you really are, the Beingness/Higher Self/God.
Reality is in your consciousness this video explains it:
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[Rich]

Lead me to a way to free myself of all the programmings, manipulations, brain washings, traumas, conditionings, etc., etc., etc., that I've received in this lifetime and others,

Dear DoT,
there are many that tell you how to do this, what teachers do you feel drawn to?
It is still you that has to Do the work.

[citsym]

Every single individual on this planet is already powerful as he or she needs to be to create any reality desired,
without having to hurt yourself or anyone else to get it. That's how powerful you are. ~Bashar

Mmmm, I have this fleeting feeling from time to time that this is exactly how it is. Just for brief moments I feel as if I can create my own world ... trouble is the feeling is only just there, but not yet substantial enough to "know" it. It’s like trying to remember something, but not quite grasping the whole picture!

[Mu2143]

Remember this, there is a veil over us that basically makes everyone blind of what
you are really are doing when you are experiencing this reality,.
So if you are experiencing a recurring problem in your life over and over again then it is your
self triggering the program over and over again until you get healed from it.

What I also have experienced this week is ;I had normal
conversation with a person who could not do that and always
had to be funny making funny faces etc.
But the day, I was talking about a view subjects with him also
asking question about it and responding how I normally would.

Did not notice anything right away, But some time later another person made
a remark to that person and said "I did not know you could be also
that serious without being funny all the time" , because he never was known
to do that at all.
basically he changed that day for a moment
(Have not payed attention to it if this still is) , just because of
how I reflect this back to some one.

To get to the core of the subject if he is trying to be funny and you react to it
he is going to accept this as normal and his behavior will not change.
trying to tell him it is not funny is also not going to work and I have seen
this and does who try it fail al the time because at first they get angry (react) when they made a remark about this
saying " I have told this before I don't like that or it is not funny" .
(Remember that it is a learned behaviour out of fear and fear get is energy from anger)

People keep repeating the same thing and expect different
results all the time and not seeing it. Happens a lot on this planet
The intend behind this is "The person who is angry wants that
he changes his behaviour by breaking his free will" that is not going to work ever.

So accept it they way it is and let go is one of the keys of things to
get free of your self imposed prison and then do not try to react to it in a way your normaly used to it.
Yes your own emotions can back fire on your self all the time.

[Pris]

it reflects the ability of a single being to manipulate the reality of others,,, while the others have no idea that they are creating a reality that is NOT their own..

Hi Jake
I agree with this idea...it happens all around us...even parents are doing it to their children...but the prime cause of this is ignorance...and the prime cause of ignorance is a lack of knowledge and personal experience of life...even after 1000s of incarnations.

I cannot help noticing how, mostly, people think they are so 'un foolable' when in fact we are far from the highly intelligent being we thing or claim to be...we are still babies, and easily manipulated...unfortunately our ego's are still just a tad still in total command...but this is 'normal' for our state of consciousness, and in another few 100 incarnations or so, we will begin to realise a little more about who we are and what we're doing here...and probably look back, and smile, at how stupid we were, and how great we thought we were, and how easily we were manipulated by the dark forces, back then...just like we are doing to those who lived on earth way back in the old old days...and guess what...those stupid people were us :)

With Love
Ray

You'd think that after 1000s of incarnations, we'd have figured it out a long, long time ago. Nope. We're still 'stupid'. Why? Oh, right -- no memory... how convenient. Gee, that sounds reasonable to me (for learning purposes, growth etc.). Not. That sounds like a self-perpetuating 'ouroboros' trap to me.

I can't help but think that we ARE highly intelligent. Something tells me we are not babies. And, the only reason why we are easily manipulated is because we chose to come here with our memories wiped clean. Somehow, despite our 'intelligence', we fell for the old soul trap over and over and over. And, here we are. Again.

The good news? Knowledge is power.

I think that once we realize we were conned into a soul trap (the one that shoots us back to planet Earth with our memories erased), we simply refuse to go back into that trap (white light at the end of the tunnel) 'next time 'round'. And voilà! We finally escape this 'reality/matrix' that we seem to be feeding with our soul's energy.

I think we are meant to incarnate/reincarnate anywhere we wish with our memories intact (should we choose to). That is our true power and our true nature -- we certainly do create our own reality.

[Rich]

You are loved and your Being wants to give you everything.

Asking this thread to be locked now.

[karelia]

Thread closed for now, as requested by OP.