Military Intervention being discussed to stop the spread.. [Archive]

View Full Version : Military Intervention being discussed to stop the spread..

Bob

3rd September 2014, 19:40

Military containment may be the only solution

Speaking at the United Nations, on the Second of September, 2014, the director-general of the World Health Organisation Dr Margaret Chan said: "Ebola has become a global threat which requires urgent global efforts in solidarity with the affected countries.

"The outbreak will get worse before it gets better and it requires a well-coordinated big surge and huge scale-up of outbreak response urgently."

The epidemic constituted a 'public health emergency of international concern' has not led to decisive action, and states have essentially joined a global coalition of inaction."

Medecins san Frontier head Joanne Liu explains the scale of the crisis:

MSF said military and civilian teams capable of dealing with a biological disaster were needed immediately as the spread of Ebola "will not be prevented without a massive deployment".

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/08/20140830_ebola.jpg
(Note: the DR Congo deaths has been updated to 31 as of 2 Sept.)

"A global military intervention is needed to curb the largest ever Ebola outbreak, according to the medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres.

"In a damning criticism of world leaders, it says the global response has so far been "lethally inadequate".

(Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29031987))

A post in 2Paragraphs dot com points out - (link (http://2paragraphs.com/2014/09/can-only-the-military-now-contain-ebola/))

"The idea of US and UK troops, for instance, appearing in West Africa (as in the film Outbreak) and manning cordons and shooting infected people who try to escape is an image that neither government would want to even consider.

"But now might be the time for military action to contain the virus in West Africa–and it must be a genuine option to prevent the Armageddon scenario of Ebola appearing on the streets of New York or London.

http://chanlo.com/images/kids-slide-1.jpg

"This outbreak is defying all known norms of the disease and, as MSF is now saying, extraordinary measures are required. With US, UK and other military forces poised to battle the Islamic State, it may well be that Ebola is–at the moment–an equal threat to global security.

"Military personnel are trained and equipped to operate in contaminated areas which include areas devastated from biological weapons attacks.

"Ebola is today a biological weapon which must be contained in order to be destroyed, and unpalatable as it is, this may now be a job for the military."

http://chanlo.com/images/dia-slide-1.jpg
(The above picture was from the Denver International Airport when it opened - this Mural at Denver Airport depicts what? Could Ebola be the plague that this Denver Airport mural portrays? The future viewed, or time-track unfolded..)

What do you think, should the MILITARY now take over the handling of the spreading of disease?

Apparently, Africa is the first continent for this precedent. Your thoughts?

--Update FOX news live, now is saying over 2000 dead which would mean close to 4000 infected using the 50% survival rate for this outbreak. WHO is saying 20,000 is likely by end of October, some are saying 100,000 by January 2015..

sheme

3rd September 2014, 20:16

The trouble is this was what we have been told the plan was, remember (the coffins, the camps, the bullets,) self isolation on a mass scale should do it, perhaps the army can deliver the supplies, may be the plan is to get us all to stay locked indoors while 'they' go underground and wait out the passing of the epidemic. Divide and conquer could it be that easy for them to do?

Bob

3rd September 2014, 20:23

It's long, but here it is:
PRESS CONFERENCES

Deputy Secretary-General's Joint Press Conference with Dr. Margaret Chan, the Director-General of the World Health Organization, and Dr. David Nabarro, the UN System Coordinator for Ebola Virus Disease
New York, 2 September 2014

Spokesman: We are joined by the Deputy Secretary-General Jan Eliasson as well as the Director General of the World Health Organization, Dr. Margaret Chan and Dr. David Nabarro, the UN system coordinator on the fight against Ebola.

As many of you will have seen from the open General Assembly briefing just concluded and they briefed the Member States on the situation on Ebola. I will ask the Deputy Secretary-General to open followed by Dr. Chan and Dr. Nabarro. Sir, DSG, the floor is yours.

DSG Jan Eliasson: Thank you very much, Stéphane. And I hope that you saw the webcast; otherwise, I will just repeat to you that we had an overview over the Ebola situation and the response to the Ebola situation. And the words that I used was that the current outbreak is critically serious and deeply worrying. And I also said that this is one of the most serious health challenges we have ever faced in the UN

I pointed to the fact that this is not only a health crisis; it is also growingly a humanitarian, developmental and security crisis potentially. So the whole UN System is now mobilized for action, but not only the UN System as such. We will growingly be dependent on actions taken by Member States. The capacity that is available in their realm is of great importance. You may recall the Tsunami of 2004, later you can recall also the Haiti earthquake that we were working very closely with Member States with the capacity to help. We were also underlining the need for immediate action taken. We are -- we are playing with the time factor, which is very critical. And we need to have action very soon; and, therefore, you will hear from Margaret Chan and David Nabarro, very concrete asks, demands, requests that we have to the Member States, which we ask them to convey to their Governments as soon as possible.

This is going to be a test of the national capacities of these countries and their health systems are very much strained and so is their infrastructure, but it's also going to be a test of multilateralism; a test of international solidarity for people in dire need right now. So I will leave it at that and hope that you picked up most of the elements from the webcast, but I will give the floor now to Margaret Chan and if you could expand on my comments.

Dr. Margaret Chan: Mr. Deputy Secretary-General, good afternoon to all of you and let me once again just repeat some of the comments I have made for the benefit of those colleagues who have not seen the webcast.

WHO together with other partners make an assessment - this is the largest and the most severe and most complex Ebola outbreak ever seen in the nearly 40-year history of the disease. No one, even outbreak responders with experience dating back to 1976, to 1995, who have managed those outbreaks have ever seen anything like it.

Now, as of this week, we have more than 3,500 cases confirmed in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia and more than 1,500 died. Now, the outbreaks and the way we describe it as they are raising ahead of the control efforts.

Now, let me perhaps say a few words about Nigeria. Nigeria had an important case by a traveler from Liberia, by air. And the robust efforts in Lagos was seeing results. And the unfortunate thing is one of those contacts escaped contact tracing and moved to Port Harcourt so there they are crossing and we are reporting three deaths and many more people are under surveillance by the Government together with CDC [US Center for Disease Control and Prevention], MSF [Médecins Sans Frontières], WHO and of course UNICEF [UN Children’s Fund].

Now, Senegal also reported its first case on 29 of August and this is an important case from Guinea and a contact again escaped monitoring and traveled by car to Senegal. The Government is mounting a robust response supported by partners and we hope that they can quickly bring it under control.

DRC [Democratic Republic of the Congo] - the outbreak is smaller and the Government is again working with partners to make sure that they can smother that outbreak. Now, I want to make a difference between the DRC outbreak and those that are happening in West Africa. They are different outbreaks. The DRC outbreak we have proven by epidemiological evidence as well as spy scientific analysis of the viruses. It is different. It is not what I call spread from West Africa to DRC. So it is a coincidence happening in DRC.

As I have said, Ebola has become a global threat which requires urgent global efforts in solidarity with the affected countries. The national authorities should take the lead and by coordinating all the actors that can bring to bear to help us to control the outbreak. And that speaks volume of the need for a well-coordinated mechanism, a platform to bring together partners. At this point in time at the country office, at the regional level, we have what we call EOC, Emergency Operating Centers, where WHO, together with MSF, CDC., UNICEF, World Food Programme, Red Cross and red Crescent - these are regular members. But going forward we will bring the assets of many other countries and agencies together, we may need to have a bigger platform so that we can have a coherent and well-coordinated big search going forward.

Let me make it very clear, this outbreak can and will be controlled. We know what is needed and we know how to do it. WHO is coordinating also the scientific community for the first time to look at potential experimental therapies. And, as you well know, on this Thursday and Friday in Geneva a meeting will be convened by the World Health Organization bringing all the scientists from the world, from US, from Canada and many other countries; but also more than 20 scientists from the African continent to look at all the potential therapies, some vaccines, some medicines. We need to look at what are some of the things we can do and fast-track in terms of clinical trial and to make sure that before we do any good we want to be doubly sure we are not doing harm. So we are going to test all these modalities to make sure that their safety profile is satisfactory according to the international community before we move forward and work with the industry in a big way.

So let me once again stop here and I'll be happy to answer any questions, you know, afterwards. But let me turn over to the DSG.

DSG Jan Eliasson: And I will turn it over to David immediately. Thank you.

Dr. David Nabarro: I saw eager hands coming up, so this will be very short. Colleagues, I was appointed to be the coordinator on this issue on the 12th of August. I was here in this room on the 19th of August. On the 21st of August I was in West Africa and I just returned at the end of last week. I'm glad to be back again.

As Dr. Chan has pointed out, this is an unusual challenge for the world and it needs an exceptional response by the world. There are 12 points to this exceptional response that I'd like to pick out. Firstly, there is a real need to improve understanding of the issue and to mobilize societies around that better understanding of Ebola disease.

Number two, control efforts require care for infected people.

Number three, the diagnosis of people who have the disease has to be available, and good and contacts have to be identified.

Number four, within the affected countries, basic health services need to be maintained.

Number five, there are food shortages emerging in the affected communities and beyond.

Number six, it's very hard for people to work to control Ebola if they can't be sure of getting their salaries, incentives that are due to them and the necessary materials for operating and they need help to avoid infection.

Number seven, in order to do that they need materials such as protective equipment and they need also the basic requirements for running their treatment unit.

Number eight, those who provide services need also to be sure that if they get ill for any reason they can get access to healthcare.

Number nine, transport is a real priority. Motorcycles and flatbed trucks are vitally needed.

Number ten, some of the policies that are being applied around travel of people from Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea to the rest of the world are not appropriate and need to be remedied.

Number 11, we've got to find a way to bring supplies into the region with commercial flights not working properly and that means setting up air bridges.

And, Number 12, the affected countries were doing quite well economically in recent years. This is having a really bad effect on their economies. And so recovery needs to be supported.

Different parts of the United Nations System have a role in all of these priorities. Obviously the World Health Organization is central but UNICEF, the World Food Programme, the World Bank, the African Development Bank, and also the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, UN Development Program and right at the center of the Office of the Deputy Secretary-General and the Secretary-General, together with all parts of our headquarters operators, all have roles to play. And my job is to coordinate all these different organizations as they scale up significantly over the next few weeks, supporting the World Health Organization, supporting the Governments with the kind of coordination that Dr. Chan just identified as being vital for our task.

I look forward to returning again, hopefully in a few weeks, and being able to say to you that that scale up is happening. And, certainly, within the system we will stop at nothing to get it happening because it's necessary for the future of the affected countries, for the future of Africa, for the future of the world.

Spokesman: Thank you very much and we will take your questions. And if I could ask you to just ask one question per hand because we have a lot of people up, Pam.

Question: I'm Pamela Falk from CBS News and on behalf of the UN Correspondent Association, Dr. Chan, Dr. Nabarro and DSG has been very active on this very critical issue. My question is about the experimental vaccine. You have gotten some examples or some samples, 800 to 1,000 from Canada. Who will be tested? How will it be tested? And how can you get enough to enough people fast enough in terms of the UN distribution? Thank you.

Dr. Margaret Chan: Thank you for that question. As we are speaking we have two to three potential vaccines. And, as I said, you know, it is important for the scientific community to come together and look at under this very unprecedented situation what are some of the things that they can -- can be done quickly without compromising the safety of all these modalities. So, you know, Canada, yes, has invested and developed a vaccine. We were approached by the Canadian authorities. They are willing to donate 800 to 1,000 vaccines to us so we will want to look at the safety profile and how to allocate very limited resources and how do we allocate in a fair manner, in an ethically acceptable manner. So these are the discussion and debate that are ongoing. And I look forward to the meetings, experts, to provide us advice on the way forward.

Spokesman: Thank you. Yes, ma'am, go ahead.

Question: Is it me?

Spokesman: Yes.

Question: Sorry [inaudible] the Japanese newspaper. Dr. Chan, you mentioned the word escaped a couple of times and I just wanted to clarify. When you say escape, did you mean consciously avoiding the screening at travel checkpoints or do you mean slip through these checkpoints with symptoms undetected? Are there people consciously avoiding the screenings and do you know if this is contributing to the curbing of flights?

Dr. Margaret Chan: Contact tracing is an extremely important health measure to reduce the spread or contain the spread. Now, the first Liberian person moving to Nigeria, that happened before WHO’s emergency committee was convened under the international health regulations to advise countries of the world that they need a coordinated approach to deal with this. And so that was a situation. And, in fact, you know, the history we are getting, this person, without giving too much, protecting his personal details, was taking care of the sister who died of Ebola and then, you know, he traveled to Nigeria and that is the story.

Now, the other case, going through Senegal, this is a young person who, again, was one of those, should be under monitoring for 21 days and often times in these situations people get worried. They are really scared and let's be clear about that. And they may want to, you know, seek treatment elsewhere or they may want to go and visit their families before they take the eventuality. And there are multiple reasons why people who are supposed to be under the monitoring of the authorities seek ways to, you know, go for different reasons beyond -- before the 21 days.

Spokesman: Thank you. And the television, your microphone please. Thank you. Go ahead.

Question: I will address my question to Mr. Nabarro in French if he doesn't mind, is that okay?

Spokesman: Yes.

Question: [In French]

Spokesman: The question: the CDC says it's worse, what is your opinion about the CDC assessment and then on the airlines.

Dr. David Nabarro: Thank you very much indeed. [In French]

Spokesman: If you can recap in English because I think they were two very critical questions. Thank you.

Dr. David Nabarro: I said that we have, of course, been looking very hard at the figures. And our colleague, Dr. Thomas Frieden of the Center for Disease Control together with our colleague Dr. Keiji Fukuda from the World Health Organization who is sitting in this room have both studied the epidemiology. And Dr. Chan explained it very clearly, but I would like to use my own words.

The outbreak is advancing ahead of us. It's accelerating ahead of us and we in our control efforts collectively are falling behind. And the more we fall behind and the more the outbreak accelerates ahead of us, the harder it is to overtake it and to control it. And so that's why we are talking now about a major surge in the response and why we want to see that surge in place quickly so that we can get back in line with the outbreak and ahead of it as quickly as possible.

And, secondly, I said that we do understand why some airlines have discontinued their flights. We understand the fear. But we also believe to the proper application of precautions when people are preparing to board flights, it's possible to avoid risk both to the airline personnel and other passengers. And we hope that as the airlines understand these issues and come to terms with them that they will then work with us to reconnect the affected countries with the rest of the world because the current situation makes controlling the outbreak extremely difficult.

Spokesman: Of course, please, please.

Dr. Margaret Chan: There is one piece of information I would like to share with you and that is in connection with the second question that Dr. David Nabarro referred to. And if you recall the Liberian person who traveled to Nigeria and we managed to work with the airline companies to check all the passengers that have traveled from Liberia and Monrovia and they stop over in Accra and went to Toga, none of the passengers on that flight was infected.

So that is why I said it is legitimate and understandable airlines and crews are worried and they are anxious; but, you know, there are measures that can be taken to further reduce that risk. So the person who was actually quite sick, he was traveling on the plane and none of the co-travelers was infected. Thank you.

Spokesman: Matthew.

Question: Sure, Matthew Lee Inner City Press on behalf of the Free UN Coalition of Access. And thanks for the briefing. I was listening earlier on the Médecins Sans Frontières, they said the world is failing and obviously that was kind of a headline, which obviously that was kind of a headline, but they also said that coercive measures such as laws criminalizing the failure to report suspected cases and forced quarantines are driving people underground and breed fear and unrest. So I wonder is that the UN's position as well and is that being conveyed, for example, to Liberia where the West Point neighborhood was quarantined and to Sierra Leone where there is a law making it illegal to not report or to somehow hide victims?

Dr. Margaret Chan: Matthew, thank you for that very excellent question. It is important to realize that the International Health Regulation, when it was negotiated by countries of the world took to consideration the human rights element of it. Yes, quarantine or in some cases people call it isolation, it is a gold standard insofar as public health measures is concerned. But in certain situations, the application, the application, is truly causing problem.

What do I mean by that? Ebola, the incubation period is 21 days. And unlike other diseases the incubation period could be three days or seven days. It is difficult for people to be isolated for 21 days with no support of food, water and other material. And that is why we encourage Governments who impose quarantine or isolation, to reduce the spread of the disease; they need to pay attention that all the material support are provided to the person in question as well as their family. And that was actually articulated in the Mano River Union Communique. But I think, you know, in this instance, you know, you will refer to clearly the application of the public health measure needs to be done much better.

Spokesman: Thank you. Gentleman in gray here.

Question: [Inaudible]… the leading French radio, MSF, the Doctors without Borders said this morning that the world is losing the battle against Ebola. And, Dr. Chan, are you losing this battle do you think?

Dr. Margaret Chan: It's fair to say that, you know, all organizations involved in this underestimated the complexity and the magnitude. As I said in the last 40 years, almost 40 years, Ebola happened in locations that isolated, relatively speaking, but this time 40 years later population has grown, movement of people within a country and between countries, especially where they share common border, and their friends and relatives and talking to the people in the three countries where they have common border, I mean, it's inconceivable for them not to visit their friends especially sick ones. So these complexities add to the fast spread of the disease. We are not going to let go and say that we are going to let the outbreak have the upper hand. We cannot allow that to happen. Yes, it's going to be a big challenge. Difficult… so that is why we need to talk to all the countries that can contribute. The UN system will leave no stone unturned, but with support of all Governments and supporting the affected countries I think we can do it and we will do it and in the past we did it.

Spokesman: DSG, you wanted to add something?

DSG Jan Eliasson: We simply cannot accept to lose this battle. And we have to do everything we can now. It's a huge task. We may be in a situation where things may get worse or what. But we have to cope with it. And the crisis and the epidemic is manageable if we do the right things. But what we are asking for today is immobilization of efforts that goes beyond the normal and the United Nations. We are asking Member States to provide immediate assistance in all the areas practically that David Nabarro mentioned, the 12 areas. And we need to have unconventional coordination ; we need to work hand and hand with Member States that can contribute and we hope certain nations take certain responsibilities in these three countries in a rather major scale and we are in talks with such nations right now. We will have a coordination mechanism that involves not only the UN System but also these Member States. We work hand in hand with Médecins Sans Frontières who were at the podium with us today. And we will mobilize all the capacity available and do it in as quick way as possible in order not to lose this battle. Thank you.

Spokesman: Evelyn.

Question: Thank you. There have been reports that Liberia no longer really has a health system, and it has collapsed. You were there, Mr. Nabarro, and I'm wondering if that is the case and if so are peacekeepers helping or who is helping?

Dr. David Nabarro: Thank you very much indeed. The health system in Liberia, in the view of the Minister for Health and the Chief Medical Officer who I was speaking with and in the view of many health workers, is not anything like its normal state and that's because the health workers have unfortunately borne the brunt of the infections with Ebola disease and also because most of the health workers that are still active are very occupied in the Ebola issue itself. And so the health system is not strong.

The peacekeepers have their responsibilities. And it would be not appropriate for me to make any comment on the extent to which they're able to contribute to other aspects of the health system except to say that they are a very limited group and the real challenge for us is to help the Liberian health system get back on its feet again and that means working directly with the authorities to do just that, which is what we are going to do.

DSG Jan Eliasson: Can I just add to that our peacekeepers are doing, in my view, a very good job already helping with transportation, helping with communications and even have a radio channel out there. And so it's one of the functioning structures but we know they are not health workers but they will do whatever they can under the circumstances. And I hope the Member States, the troop contributors will accept this very specific, very special situation in which we find ourselves.

Spokesman: Sangwon…

Question: Sangwon Yoon from Bloomberg News and I have two questions for Dr. Chan and one for Dr. Nabarro.

Spokesman: Just one and keep it tight.

Question: Dr. Chan, the WHO has been criticized for reacting too slowly to the outbreak and do you think any of that criticism is fair? And also considering that the WHO has declared first polio, Ebola, as well as the Middle East the virus syndrome, do you feel that it's become extremely taxing for the organization? What kind of cracks are you seeing, if any, in your operations and responding to this crisis? And for Dr. Nabarro the world --

Spokesman: Please, that is fine, let's start with Dr. Chan. Thank you.

Dr. Margaret Chan: Thank you for that question. And, as you well know, there is a lot of expectation of WHO; but we also need to be honest. WHO is a specialized health agency. We are not the first responder and that is an important point to underscore. Governments are the primary provider of care. But, of course, on the invitation of Government, at the request of Government, we would provide guidance and technical advice. For the response, since the start of the outbreak, we have mobilized our partners, agency under the global outbreak alert response. We have mobilized for more than 400 doctors, nurses, experts, to support the effort. I still remember my meeting with His Excellency President Alpha Condé, before May, that was April/May period, I have made it very clear, the country has done excellent work at that stage to bring the outbreak under control. I reminded him this is a ball that he should not drop and we should not drop. But, as I said, the complexity and there are multiple reasons, including the denial of community, scared people running away, you know, feel the escalation of the outbreak.

And as I said earlier in another question, we must admit, all of us, all actors on the ground underestimated the magnitude and the complexity of this outbreak.

Spokesman: Thank you. We will leave. The DSG needs to leave, but we will -- if I can ask Dr. Nabarro and Dr. Chan to stay behind a few more minutes.

DSG Jan Eliasson: See you later.

Spokesman: Matthew Carpenter.

Question: Hi, my name is Matthew Carpenter and I'm a reporter for Yomiuri Shimbun, the Japanese newspaper. You said that the participation of Member States is key. My question is: Other than the affected countries which Member States are you most actively cooperating with and what capacity are you working with them in?

Dr. Margaret Chan: Thank you. Of course, the affected countries we work closely with them. But countries like US, CDC in particular and France Institute [inaudible] and as well as UK Public Health England, these are providing experts, technical support in laboratory areas, in diagnosis, and also, you know, infection control and in some instances they are actually providing experts to WHO to provide patient care. So these are a few countries, but we have more than that. The other countries would provide materials or support or cash.

Spokesman: Thank you. Kristen Saloomey, Al Jazeera.

Question: Thanks. Dr. Nabarro, you mentioned food shortages. Can you elaborate on that, where is this happening? Why is this happening?

Dr. David Nabarro: Communities that are affected by Ebola virus disease are also experiencing disruption in being able to move around and that can lead to and has led to shortages of food which are dealt with locally. But we have asked the World Food Programme to help, to make sure that there is the capacity for local citizens to respond. Perhaps a more worrying thing is that in the longer term the capacity of the food system in affected countries to work properly has been diminished. There are reports that planting by farmers is reduced and also that delivery of food that comes in from outside by ship has reduced because a number of ships have not docked in the ports of both Sierra Leone and Liberia recently. That in turn is making us concerned about the longer term reduction in food availability. Both issues are being kept under very careful observation and the World Food Programme and Food and Agriculture Organization are helping us to deal with them.

Spokesman: Thank you, Somini, New York Times.

Question: Thank you very much. I meant to ask that the DSG this but I wonder if either of you could comment on whether any special precautions are necessary for the General Assembly. And, additionally, Dr. Chan, specifically, if you could address whether you should have declared a global emergency prior to August 8 when you did?

Dr. Margaret Chan: Thank you for that question. Sorry. Let me get the microphone. And, yes, the first question is whether or not we need specific precaution for the UN General Assembly. I think the emergency committee temporary recommendation is very clear and there should not be any travel ban. A travel ban or closure of border is not going to help stop the outbreak from preparedness and response is the most important point. And now the question whether or not the emergency committee can be called earlier, as I said, the emergency committee, and the most important thing is we need to look at whether or not a global coordination effort is required. And, of course, we have to make the assessment together with the experts on the ground. I think, you know, to us, the end of July. And I see that, you know, when you have airport traveling somebody from Liberia, moving to Nigeria and it becomes an international travel what we call public health emergency of international concern. So I think that is the right time to call it. And, of course, as you said, we call emergency committee like on MERS cold virus and on polio. But there are multiple considerations under the international health regulations, when is the right call. And judgment has to come in place as well. And I am guided by the advice of experts.

Spokesman: Thank you. George.

Question: Dr. Chan, I saw this morning on CNN they had I think it was Dr. Frieden and he made a great point of saying you can't close down these country, you can't isolate these countries and you have alluded to that response to previous questions as well. Can you tell me, if that being true, how do you stop it? What can be -- I remember years ago I was in Israel and there was talk of cholera somewhere and anybody leaving the airport got a free cholera shot, and, of course, I had to get the second one in London, is there something like that being done on any of these places?

Dr. Margaret Chan: I liked that question, George; and I fully support Dr. Tom Frieden's comment. Isolating these countries is not the solution. If anything at all, it complicates the outbreak control. Why do I say that? As we are speaking, experts from the world through the generosity of many of your countries cannot travel to the affected countries because there is no commercial airline flying and because of the fear. Some countries are in West Africa are closing their airlines and not airlines, their airports, not allowing UN planes to fly. So there are consequences.

Now, the appropriate way to deal with it, to reduce anxiety and fear in the international community is to have very robust exit screening. What do we mean by that? Of course, any patient with Ebola must not travel. Any contact, people who have come into contact with Ebola patients should be monitored for 21 days. They would only be allowed to travel when they don't have symptoms.

So if countries implement that exit strategy in a robust manner, the risks of exporting Ebola case is really minimal. And at this point in time this is, as you said, George, it's not like cholera and we don't have a vaccine and we don't have a treatment. But let's also not forget early attention, medical attention for Ebola patients, the survival rate is higher. And we celebrate, we should celebrate, you know, survivors as well.

Spokesman: Thank you. There is a small hand behind the tall BBC correspondent and I will take -- go ahead.

Question: Small hand.

Spokesman: Maybe the two of you should switch seats. Go ahead.

Question: I'm Alexandra Olson from the Associated Press. I was wondering if you could be a little bit more specific on what kind of contributions you're looking for from Member States in this search. Are we talking about many -- sending many more health workers or experts? The Doctors without Borders talked about sending military expertise or is it more material help, equipment and that sort of thing? Thank you.

Dr. David Nabarro: So there is a clear menu of requirements. Most important is to make sure that the existing services and their staff within the affected countries can work effectively and so that does mean materials in terms of what we call consumables, the things that are used up as well as basic equipment, vehicles and the support that is required, particularly training. And then we do need people as well. We need both healthcare professionals, but we also need people to help with the organization of support, people who know about crisis management and people who know about coordination. Most importantly we need people who are very experienced in working to support national authorities to work as efficiently and effectively as possible. Remember that these are countries which are experiencing a very frightening emergency right now and so, therefore, those who work with the citizens and Governments of the affected countries need to be able to display a great deal of understanding of some of the challenges they face. I hope that is clear.

Spokesman: We will take two more short questions and Abdul Hameed and then Nick.

Question: Thank you. My name is Abdul Hameed from the London-based Arabic daily. I hope you don't mind, Dr. Chan, to distract you a bit from Ebola epidemic and ask you about the health situation and the hazard in Gaza.

Spokesman: I'd like to stick to Ebola for the time being. Nick.

Question: Dr. Nabarro, Nick from BBC, you say the outbreak is accelerating ahead of us and it's getting harder to overtake it. I wonder what that looks like over the coming weeks and months in terms of numbers of people infected in terms of numbers of countries affected?

Dr. David Nabarro: Well, it's not for me to make those projections. I think that actually it's not a wise thing to do to make those kinds of predictions because it really is not at all possible to predict. What I am indicating to you, and I think it's well-known to everybody, is that the numbers of cases being reported are rising more and more rapidly every day. But I think we should be prepared for the likelihood that there will continue to be more cases of Ebola being reported in coming days and weeks and this will happen that as at the same time we gather all the energies that are available internationally to get ahead of the outbreak and get it under control.

And, secondly, I think we must anticipate that there will be cases appearing in other countries, that's what happens with these kinds of diseases. But we should take some -- I think some solace from the reality that when it has spread to other countries there has been a very rapid response, which is the way it should be. Thank you.

Spokesman: Great. Thank you very much, and thank you very much.

http://www.un.org/sg/dsg/dsgoffthecuff.asp?nid=289 - press conference

Bob

3rd September 2014, 20:29

Example of military used during quarantine in WestPoint a district outside of Monrovia Liberia a few weeks ago..

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-content/photos/000/828/cache/82846_990x742-cb1408566977.jpg?01RI=4B2D93C44946D01,cm:akamai.mathtag.com%2fevent%2fimg%3fakam_state%3d0%26no_log% 26mt_nsync%26mm_bnc%26relay%3dhttp%253A%252F%252Fak-sync.datasvc.mediamath.com%252Ffcgi.insight-drp%253Furl%253D-%2526referer%253Drelaytest%2526ip_address%253D127.0.0.1%2526cpcode%253D52202%2526akid%253D3MPBOCwerT VJuVT0xFOGNpiEZtFSiAxiSH2GmzBeGD3N5_b5mRJZBig%2526blob-id%253D7%2526blob%253D%255BMM_UUID%255D%255Cr%255Cn&01NA=ck&

http://gdb.voanews.com/D27AF0CF-1DA5-4DA3-AA02-AAD843F40E65_cx0_cy10_cw0_mw1024_s_n.jpg

Other troops used:

http://gdb.voanews.com/B4F273F8-B62B-462C-8FF2-2678B9CCD05C_cx0_cy8_cw0_mw1024_s_n.jpg
(http://www.voanews.com/content/liberia-sierra-leone-deploy-troops-to-contain-ebola/2407268.html - Sierra Leone and Liberia deploy troops to contain..)

Tesla_WTC_Solution

3rd September 2014, 20:39

This will surely test humanity beyond much of our experience. :(

It's not good to talk about magic when dealing with a medical emergency like Ebola,
but I can't help thinking there are some bad entities thriving off the misery of these people,
and watching us abandon each other to a common enemy.

There are so many ways to die, and each of us will (probably) succumb to old age, accident or disease, yet we as a culture seem very afraid of death in this form.

John said: "And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."
...

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

sheme

3rd September 2014, 21:11

Just read that report quickly not very reassuring at all, they are basically saying unless there is a supreme world effort we are all going to see this disease go global, shortage of masks and gowns and food and medical personnel. so where did this virus come from?- no cases to a pandemic makes you wonder- Not.

Thanks for that Bob.

Matt P

3rd September 2014, 21:17

Here we go again.
All sources listed, FOX (666) "News", the UN, the WHO, are propaganda arms of the Fake Reality Control Matrix, which is owned and controlled by the world banking elite/Cabal.
This is such a tired game plan. They do this over and over and over and over. Fear! Fear! Fear! Boo! Problem, reaction, solution.
Too bad they don't just explain to people how they can be protected from this and any other virus. Ah, but that doesn't sell drugs or enable new police state laws or inspire folks to give away their freedoms begging for big brother to come send their military to protect them from the evil bugs.
[sigh]

Matt

Bob

3rd September 2014, 21:21

Listening to what is being made public too is revealing. What is not being talked about is revealing. The timing of multiple events coming together is interesting.

Just read that report quickly not very reassuring at all, they are basically saying unless there is a supreme world effort we are all going to see this disease go global, shortage of masks and gowns and food and medical personnel. so where did this virus come from?- no cases to a pandemic makes you wonder- Not.

Thanks for that Bob.

GoodETxSG

3rd September 2014, 21:23

None of this should be a shock, suspected "infected" people of all ages have been massacred and unreported while the MSM keeps reporting the "Over 1,500 dead" from Ebola numbers on the networks.

Not to mention that if you overlay the maps of disputed resources or let's say COVETED RESOURCES... They match the Outbreak Region's almost exactly. There seems to be a common demoninator with Africa and a "Promise" of that Continent made to... Well... "People" (Think back to rumors of Nelson Mandela's Funeral) who want to settle there.

I think a Genocide Bomb was dropped (Metaphore) based on hear say from some AFRICOM Sources I have heard from admittedly second/third hand. All IMHO.

There has been info that shows this strain of Ebola is engineered and NOT the natural occuring one. This one shows signs of being weaponized and the "New Drugs" seem to work mainly on non-indiginous peoples. Again, hear say from unverified military intel.

Note: Pardon spelling errors, no spell check on this device.

Bob

3rd September 2014, 21:36

None of this should be a shock
,[..]
There has been info that shows this strain of Ebola is engineered and NOT the natural occurring one.

This one shows signs of being weaponized and the "New Drugs" seem to work mainly on non-indigenous peoples.

Again, hear say from unverified military intel.

We have a lot of data in the Haemorrhagic Fever Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon) that looks like Ebola - Zaire is the weaponized strain most likely from a bioweapons factory, probably gene modified from Marburg. Many of those labs weaponizing were in the Ukraine during the ex-Soviet block days. The thread goes over different "fevers" which the Soviets were expert on in bioweaponizing.

GoodETxSG

3rd September 2014, 21:41

Yes indeed,
It goes back much further... Think "Project Paperclip". Both the US and Soviet's got some nasty Bio-Engineer's.

None of this should be a shock
,[..]
There has been info that shows this strain of Ebola is engineered and NOT the natural occurring one.

This one shows signs of being weaponized and the "New Drugs" seem to work mainly on non-indigenous peoples.

Again, hear say from unverified military intel.

We have a lot of data in the Haemorrhagic Fever Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon) that looks like Ebola - Zaire is the weaponized strain most likely from a bioweapons factory, probably gene modified from Marburg. Many of those labs weaponizing were in the Ukraine during the ex-Soviet block days. The thread goes over different "fevers" which the Soviets were expert on in bioweaponizing.

Bob

3rd September 2014, 21:42

[..]
Too bad they don't just explain to people how they can be protected from this and any other virus.

Ah, but that doesn't sell drugs or enable new police state laws or inspire folks to give away their freedoms begging for big brother to come send their military to protect them from the evil bugs.
[sigh]

Matt

This link here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74422-Stopping-the-Epidemic-NOW-is-possible-practically-ZERO-COST-too--&p=871346&viewfull=1#post871346) discusses something found in 2013 which is exactly that, a low cost, (about the cost of a good vitamin supplement), generic, out of patent, treatment with 100% effectiveness. Odd, the report appears to have been suppressed, or otherwise kept from big billion $ bux pharma.. It could be distributed safely, with a side effect of people actually getting healthier and more fertile too :) quite to the contrary of a population reduction plan, to their dismay no doubt.. anyway, here is the link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74422-Stopping-the-Epidemic-NOW-is-possible-practically-ZERO-COST-too--&p=871346&viewfull=1#post871346

Bob

3rd September 2014, 22:40

Guardian is sharing this - "The epidemic can be stopped, said Liu, but only if governments send in biohazard teams and equipment."

"Ebola outbreak: call to send in military to west Africa to help curb epidemic"

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2014/9/2/1409667628914/Medical-workers-of-the-Jo-011.jpg

Military teams should be sent to west Africa immediately if there is to be any hope of controlling the Ebola epidemic, doctors on the frontline told the United Nations on Tuesday, painting a stark picture of health workers dying, patients left without care and infectious bodies lying in the streets.

The international president of Médecins sans Frontières (MSF), Dr Joanne Liu, told member states that although alarm bells had been ringing for six months, the response had been too little, too late and no amount of vaccinations and new drugs would be able to prevent the escalating disaster.

"Six months into the worst Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it," Liu said.

"Riots are breaking out. Isolation centres are overwhelmed. Health workers on the frontline are becoming infected and are dying in shocking numbers.

"Others have fled in fear, leaving people without care for even the most common illnesses. Entire health systems have crumbled."

She said Ebola treatment centres had been reduced to places where people went to die alone.

"It is impossible to keep up with the sheer number of infected people pouring into facilities. In Sierra Leone, infectious bodies are rotting in the streets," she said. "Rather than building new Ebola care centres in Liberia, we are forced to build crematoria."

"To curb the epidemic, it is imperative that states immediately deploy civilian and military assets with expertise in biohazard containment.

"I call upon you to dispatch your disaster response teams, backed by the full weight of your logistical capabilities.

"This should be done in close collaboration with the affected countries. Without this deployment, we will never get the epidemic under control."

This is bio-containment for grade 4 infectious agents

http://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/biohazard1.jpg

This is what is being used (if at all)

http://www.trbimg.com/img-53dacf92/turbine/la-american-doctor-diagnosed-with-ebola-virus--003/750/16x9

This clearly was not adequate:

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-DX260_0730br_G_20140730154048.jpg

THIS is a proper biological hazard suit with contained air, or properly filtered air, or "shop-air" and this should be what the Agencies are saying would be most likely going to be needed to contain this spread.

http://www.cdc.gov/media/dpk/2013/images/dpk-2013-review/car-2-lg.jpg

This is a proper portable bio containment TENT (in London)

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1393802/ebola-london.jpg

This is the tragedy - a "clinic" in Africa trying to cope, the "screening step"

Cidersomerset

3rd September 2014, 23:49

Hi Bob I know this is off the wall and pure 'rabbit hole ' stuff, but what keeps coming
to mind is the possible clearance of Africa. I know this is unlikely and illogical but......

In Kerry's Project Camelot interview with Captain Philips , she says he told her that
Africa has been given to a ET race to colonise.

I don't know if it was part or the whole continent. This does sound far fetched
but if there was nuclear war involving Israel . The of the battle of Armageddon
on the plains of Meggido set up by TPTB. This could effect areas of North Africa
if designed to do so.

http://www.acceptingtruth2012.com/valley_of_megiddo.jpg

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

West , Central and Eastern Africa by the spread of Ebola.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/thematic-maps/maps/ebola-outbreak.jpg

I know cures are being developed and tested and some already work , and there
are plenty of other theories to what is going on with Ebola .....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is the Aids virus still rampant in South Africa ?

http://bizweekpopularity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/hiv-aids-south-africahivaids-in-africa-publish-with-glogster-ihdzhpch.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/health/aids-south-africa-success-pepfar.html?_r=0

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/7/18/1405701907920/a183d806-69d2-4c2e-9a74-9875dc15d0ea-460x276.jpeg

It just so happened some of the passengers on MH17 were experts going to an Aids conference

http://newsfirst.lk/english/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Aids-Doctor.jpg

This is all speculation and probably wrong. But you must admit its a script to a classic sky fy thriller movie...LOL

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh there was one a few years ago set in South Africa about Aliens landing there...

hwz_Xjxq7JA

District 9 (2009) Trailer (Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt)

GoodETxSG

4th September 2014, 00:14

This is what I was hinting at...

Hi Bob I know this is off the wall and pure 'rabbit hole ' stuff, but what keeps coming
to mind is the possible clearance of Africa. I know this is unlikely and illogical but......

In Kerry's Project Camelot interview with Captain Philips , she says he told her that
Africa has been given to a ET race to colonise.

I don't know if it was part or the whole continent. This does sound far fetched
but if there was nuclear war involving Israel . The of the battle of Armageddon
on the plains of Meggido set up by TPTB. This could effect areas of North Africa
if designed to do so.

http://www.acceptingtruth2012.com/valley_of_megiddo.jpg

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

West , Central and Eastern Africa by the spread of Ebola.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/thematic-maps/maps/ebola-outbreak.jpg

I know cures are being developed and tested and some already work , and there
are plenty of other theories to what is going on with Ebola .....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is the Aids virus still rampant in South Africa ?

http://bizweekpopularity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/hiv-aids-south-africahivaids-in-africa-publish-with-glogster-ihdzhpch.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/health/aids-south-africa-success-pepfar.html?_r=0

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/7/18/1405701907920/a183d806-69d2-4c2e-9a74-9875dc15d0ea-460x276.jpeg

It just so happened some of the passengers on MH17 were experts going to an Aids conference

http://newsfirst.lk/english/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Aids-Doctor.jpg

This is all speculation and probably wrong. But you must admit its a script to a classic sky fy thriller movie...LOL

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh there was one a few years ago set in South Africa about Aliens landing there...

hwz_Xjxq7JA

District 9 (2009) Trailer (Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt)

Bob

4th September 2014, 01:39

Agree with both yas, GoodeTXSG and Cidersomerset - - with the military in place how long will they be there? Just for containment? LOTS of diseases as UN director has pointed out, not just Ebola.. dr. WHo comes to mind.. just then, U.N.I.T. in place where-ever..

Bob

4th September 2014, 02:04

This is what I was hinting at... [..]

Hi Bob I know this is off the wall and pure 'rabbit hole ' stuff

[..]

I had an opportunity in the States and over in Nigeria to discuss exactly that concept with a Yoruba shaman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_religion). Over in Nigeria I talked with a wonderful Ibo/Igbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_people) spiritual gifted one. The discussion did turn to history.. Exactly WHEN such contact happened, and was it really much earlier than anyone "recently" turning 'Africa' over.. Still though, recalling that is when the U.N.I.T. (agency concept) stirred in my mind.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Igbo_contemporary_masquerade.jpg/255px-Igbo_contemporary_masquerade.jpg

http://africa.si.edu/exhibits/resonance/images/44yoruba-92.54.jpg

Inaiá

4th September 2014, 02:42

...Not to mention that if you overlay the maps of disputed resources or let's say COVETED RESOURCES... They match the Outbreak Region's almost exactly...

Hi All!

GoodeTXSG, could you please share something showing this overlay?

Thanks!

GoodETxSG

4th September 2014, 04:04

Sure,
I will try to get the maps shown to me. I doubt I will be provided the current AFRICOM Intel Maps of Natural Resources that I was shown.

They are mostly the ones now bought up by China since the US first wanted to beat them to the punch.

The "Natural Resources" that have been found in these west african poor countries are not as advertised as they will be once they have been carved up by the various economic super powers including BRICS.

Washington is targeting China’s Achilles heel (Africa)

http://www.gasandoil.com/oilaround/2011/10/washington-is-targeting-china2019s-achilles-heel
http://www.gasandoil.com/oilaround/2011/10/resolveuid/6e84d9e3d1821a4b04547c74d777ce71

NOTE: This is not an accurate representation of the map I was shown of Western through Central and Southern Africa in the April/May time frame. There were a lot more Gem, Precious Metals, Oil and Uranium deposits along side national interest flags (Mostly Chinese) marked on the map than the ones I find on "Google".

http://bushdewitt.weebly.com/uploads/9/8/1/5/9815251/__________2165470_orig.gif

Even this older "CIA Factbook" Map shows this older distribution of Resources...

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/world-commodities-map_536bebb20436a_w670.png

http://www.mapsofworld.com/thematic-maps/maps/ebola-outbreak.jpg

Cara

4th September 2014, 06:00

Bob

4th September 2014, 06:09

The rape, pillage, decimation and denigration of Africa and its people continues while most in the rest of the world look on with nothing more than superficial sympathy, relief that "it's not like that over here", and a thinly veiled boredom and arrogant belief that the "savages" themselves must be to blame. Somehow if the tragedy happens to those "brown" people over there far away, it means less than if it happens to "whiter" people from "civilized" cultures. What an appalling world we live in where another crisis in Africa is "yet another basket-case" that people have no desire to look at until it might affect them.

Sorry for the rant, Bob. As you can tell, this affects me deeply.

I do agree with you on your linkages to a wider plan to keep Africa destabilized, on the back foot and weak. And depopulated... Or just populated enough to be unwilling workers in mineral and resource extraction.

/ Searcher

What you say is no Rant. I am just as focused and just as concerned.. staying emotionally centered does take some focus.

(as an aside, has Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum weighed in? There are solutions that are cost effective, and his Highness has been noted to help out in instances like this. I am familiar with the Al Nahyan family in Abu Dhabi.. didn't get a chance to head over to Dubai..)

Cara

4th September 2014, 06:27

Thanks Bob. I don't move in the high flying circles of the Sheik :-) so have no particular intel, but I did find this in the daily National, published 2nd September :

Arabian Gulf countries may be key to unlocking Africa’s riches (http://www.thenational.ae/business/economy/arabian-gulf-countries-may-be-key-to-unlocking-africas-riches)
http://www.thenational.ae/business/economy/arabian-gulf-countries-may-be-key-to-unlocking-africas-riches

Here are a couple of paragraphs:

Perhaps the world was approaching the continent from the wrong direction. When global investment patterns were determined by Americans and Europeans, it was they who decided how and where to invest in Africa, with little success apart from the booming profits of commodities companies.

That has begun to change. Even before the financial crisis, China was beginning to invest big time in Africa (with mixed success, it should be noted). Since 2009 and the “tilt to the east”, the Middle East has begun to consider itself as the hub of the giant global investment wheel, and the UAE in particular has woken up to the potential of Africa.

In the next few weeks, Dubai will host two events that confirm this new-found interest in the continent, and offer a different approach to it.

Next week, the West Africa Investment Forum comes to Dubai, with eight heads of state and the leaders of financial organisations from the region. In early October, the Dubai Chamber of Commerce hosts the Africa Global Business Forum, a pan-continental get-together of business leaders and policymakers.

Potential investors, of course, are welcome, and expected, at both events. Senior representatives of the region’s big sovereign wealth funds, private equity and other big moneymen are on the invitation list. The West Africa meeting will focus on the attractions of a part of the continent sometimes left out of the investment equation: the largely francophone nations that comprise the West African Economic and Monetary Union (UEOMA, in its French acronym).

The eight, of which Senegal is the biggest, share a common currency (no mean achievement), the CFA franc, and a customs union with other West African states. As economic unions go, it has been relatively enduring, despite the political and social troubles that have plagued the region.

...

The economic and investment implications of the Ebola disease are bound to be a prominent topic at the forum. But perhaps the lesson is that if West Africa had the essential infrastructure of roads, logistics and medical facilities in place before the outbreak took place, it would have been a lot easier to take measures against it.

The Arabian Gulf countries, and the UAE in particular, have shown their expertise in infrastructure investment and management. The region has huge pools of liquidity looking for a good return, but finding that difficult to achieve in the more competitive markets of the West or Asia.

So perhaps there is going to be some kind of help from here, though the tone of the article seems to be more about exploiting the resources and investment opportunities.

/ Searcher

Cidersomerset

4th September 2014, 08:03

They are mostly the ones now bought up by China since the US first wanted to beat them to the punch.

I posted an article on Bobs other thread in a similar context....I have been hearing
from various sources among discussions in vids I've watched/listened to over te
past few years that China has had direct backing from one ET group since the
mid 1990's ( As are alleged other countries from earlier on going contacts)
Whether this is connected with Chinas Africa strategy who knows ?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74342-UK-Threat-Level-raised-to-SEVERE&p=872140#post872140

China Is Africa's New Colonial Overlord

http://www.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/02/18/chinese-assistance-africa-afp.jpg-large?itok=9mZaxBCt

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/02/18/chinese-investment-africa.png?itok=LmnfiZyQ

http://www.ibtimes.com/china-africas-new-colonial-overlord-says-famed-primate-researcher-jane-goodall-1556312

Cidersomerset

4th September 2014, 08:15

Africa has also been connected in the past with the Annunaki and the Dogon and probably
many others. The TV series the EVENT some say was a partial disclosure of a upcoming
scenario and it was weird how it was cancelled after one season just as the worlds were
about to come together either in a very close orbit or collision ? I cannot remember which....

I also cannot remember if Kerry said the new ET's to colonise Africa are a new group or old ?

I'm just throwing it into the pot....LOL

TqYX-qI9oxw

The Event season 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELcNSqzUldAXU

Part of the finale plot was about a 'biological weapon'....Just saying how the TPTB are supposed to put all upcoming events in the public eye so to speak ......

The Event "The Arrival"

CGIaNrk0QZo

"NEW" THE EVENT EP. 1.22 "ARRIVAL" PROMO
8hyzBb1CXEs

====================================================
====================================================

CT9WUlM7a6k

_5useSIUUwE

U9fJ5KnSonY

Uploaded on 12 Feb 2011

The Dogons: An extraordinary set of people from Mali, West Africa have baffled
Nasa Astronauts and well known Rocket Scientists around the world with their
sophisticated and advanced knowledge of the universe. The Dogon are believed to
be of Egyptian decent fleeing religious persecutions and their astronomical lore
goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. The Dogon star, which scientists call
Sirius B, wasn't even photographed until it was done by a large telescope in 1970.
How did the Dogon gain this knowledge thousands of years ago without any known
ancient telescopes yet to be found???????

DOGONS also found that the INVISIBLE star (sirius B) had an elliptical orbit of 60
years around sirius A as well as an orbit of 1 year on it's own axis, as well as other
complex findings that NASA (National Association of Stupid AROGANTS) is still
trying to "CONFIRM" with their ADVANCED telescopes and SPACE shuttles.

Cidersomerset

4th September 2014, 09:47

VJiiiqSMv-U

vje2

4th September 2014, 09:50

Hi there,

People, please, stop listening to this FEARMONGERING news coming from UN, CDC MSF etc...
This is nothing but a way to instigate fear so that they can begin their DEPOPULATION agenda!
Africans have been subjected to the most horrendous experiments and still standing strong, Ebola, Marburg, genocides (instigated by the powers to be that create the problem, feed the problem and then present the solution...and all for profit, of course).

There are natural remedies that can treat viruses and equally effective or better than the big pharma drugs and or vaccines.

Did I said vaccines? my goodness rumours has it that big pharma has a vaccines for Ebola...how convenient!
World Health Organisation, why don't they spread the use of natural remedies, like colloidal/nano silver, MMS, liposomal vitamin C etc... to treat this virus?

Is all too cnvenient for some.
So PLEASE, if you are reading these words, do not give yourselves to FEAR, that is precisely what they want.

By the way I live in West Africa and we are very happy, calm and content...nothing like the news media is portaying to the outside world.

tnkayaker

4th September 2014, 14:58

26997 Is this the next global epidemic? this is the image of a mining cart with the symbols au/ag this is the symbol for gold and silver but more importantly it is the abbreviation of a possible epidemic called Australian Antigen, this is a symbol placed in the new denver airport, this could or could not be a piece of this global epidemic puzzle, or is this maybe the next or the "big" epidemic waiting to be unleashed?....

Bob

4th September 2014, 15:46

Some genetic studies appearing have said a form of the FiloViri have existed AND have been incorporated INTO the gene code.. (laying there for what reason?) or simply that the cells have developed a relationship where the viral proteins do not kill the cells (making them virus factories).

How long have they existed? Thousands of years in the primates, millions of years in the reptiles. Hundreds of thousand of years in the shrew-like creatures.. Just laying dormant. (? hmm..)

The supposition in the earlier posts suggest an off-world intervention in civilization in Africa. I've wondered if possibly 'contact' would have been also viral, not just a higher bi-pedal organism, but the microscopic coming along with the bi-pedals. Would life be able to withstand an "infection" or some such..?

Is the military then being called in only for containment (in proper-bio-suits) of this virus, or is there something deeper that needs military intervention?

How deep does "invection - (new word, infiltration and infection combined..) go?

The assumption given us, in some of the media presenting new " series' " goes into suggesting that a "higher intelligence" than what would be expected in normal viruses (survival engine for the viri) is presenting itself. Does the military believe this to be true?

Folks have suggested (as have I in other posts) that there are and have been very effective ultra-low-cost preventative, and protective substances, that are known about for instance, within the US FDA (and thereby USAMRIID, and the militaries medical research organizations) - substances which serve as universal protectorants.. But instead big biopharma is out developing custom anti-viral for a virus which mutates, and the subsequent mutations may not be affected by the treatment or vaccine.. Bigpharma then makes beaucoup bux from someone who ends up paying (they right now get fantastic grants worth hundreds of millions of US dollars) to continue to 'research' and experiment..

Is all that dance then part of a larger game or is it part of the same ole, same ole "conspiracy of the buck flows here" mentality to those with the golden spoons.. ? Probably a bit of both maybe?

Establishing a military maintained "anti-invection" authority would be logical, not just for this "outbreak" but what could become more.

When the vaccines don't work, because of mutations, and people saying NOPE won't take the vaccine, then what? What are the people going to do with the military presence? The microscopic assaulting agent is there, and people try all sorts of substances on their own, which amount to drinking pesticides.. and they don't get over the virus.. People seem to think that the vaccine is going to get them, when the viral engine, in a fully active "living virus" is much more devious than ANYTHING that can be put into any vaccines.. A programming tool, an "invection tool", that spreads by air and only one or two 90 nanometer sized particles is needed to start the program transferal.. Think about a computer virus that spreads, and spreads throughout the "network", replicating and making more "zombie-bots"... INFEVECTION...

Is there a counter-program running, for instance the off-world invection, and the on-world powers that be conspiracy program - Militaries being used by one faction or the other to "deal" with the out-of-control programs?

So maybe this current "outbreak" with all the mutations, more mutations than any of them have talked about in the biofields for this "strain"... is part of something very old, becoming activated now..

thoughts?

Cidersomerset

4th September 2014, 18:47

So maybe this current "outbreak" with all the mutations, more mutations than any of them have talked about in the biofields for this "strain"... is part of something very old, becoming activated now..

thoughts?

Good question and the one that runs parallel with that is.....Are there viruses buried in the permafrost of Siberia or in the lakes under Ant Artica ?

4ygiTdVeQm8

Scientists revive giant virus from 30,000-year-old Siberian permafrost: Possibly from Space

Published time: March 05, 2014 00:15
Edited time: March 06, 2014 13:06

French and Russian researchers have revived a 30,000-year-old living virus from
deep below the frozen Siberian tundra, which they say is the largest ever
discovered. It targets amoebae, but hints that other ancient viruses could be in the
Earth's soil.

The giant virus was discovered by a group of scientists led by Jean-Michel Claverie
and Chantal Abergel, a husband-and-wife duo at Aix-Marseille University in France.

The contagion, which has been dubbed Pithovirus sibericum due to its oddly long
and narrow shape, infects amoebae and presents no threat to humans, Nature
scientific journal reported.

The Greek word “pithos” represents a large container used by the ancient Greeks to
store wine and food. “We’re French, so we had to put wine in the story,” said the
researchers, who published their results in the Proceedings of the National Academy
of Sciences.

Scientists have long known that viruses can survive for thousands of years. For
example, latent smallpox virus genes were discovered in 400-year-old mummies.

However, the Siberian virus is not latent. It has shown to be able to infect host cells
and replicate.

Using permafrost samples extracted from a Siberian riverbank and provided by the
Russian Academy of Sciences, the researchers fished for giant viruses with
amoebae to see if the ancient contagion could infect them.

After it was discovered that the amoebae were dying off, the scientists were
surprised to find that the viruses were multiplying inside the amoebae.

The pithovirus is certainly unique in its characteristics, measuring 1.5 micrometers
long and 25 percent larger than any virus previously found.

"Sixty percent of its gene content doesn't resemble anything on earth," Abergel said.

“This guy is 150 times less compacted than any bacteriophage (viruses that infect
bacteria). We don’t understand anything anymore!” Claverie said.

Though the giant virus presents a threat only to amoebae, the researchers suggest
that while the Earth's ice melts, the soil may hold other viruses harmful to humans
or animals. “At the moment, there’s no reason to believe they [are not] also
resistant for a long time under the same conditions,” Claverie added.

Claverie pointed to the risks associated with a thawing tundra, which could attract
people to the region.

“There will be people where there were no people before, and those people are
going to manipulate and disturb those [soil] layers that have not been disturbed for a million years.”

As for how giant viruses evolved, Claverie admitted, “at the moment, your guess is
as good

http://rt.com/news/virus-siberia-permafrost-france-776/

===================================================

Unknown life form found in Antarctic lake, miles under the ice...

SqfQHX4pz_g

Published on 12 Mar 2013

"It looks like drilling through 2.3 miles of ice may have paid off:

The Russian scientists who did just that last year at Antarctica's Lake Vostok say
the samples they recovered contain an

"unclassified and unidentified" life form, reports the BBC.The bacteria's DNA
measured less than 86% similar to that of

previously existing life forms—which the team's leader explains is "basically zero"
when it comes to DNA.

"A level of 90% usually means that the organism is unknown."

"If this had been found on Mars everyone would have undoubtedly said there is life
on Mars," continued the scientist,

who says fresh samples will be retrieved from the subglacial lake in May. "But this
is bacteria from Earth."

Lake Vostok is so oxygen-rich—about 50 times more so than freshwater lakes—that any microbes living in it must

have evolved special adaptations to survive there, notes the Daily Galaxy."

==================================================

As you have said in previous posts Bio scientists / military have been doing
this for many years, recovering such deadly viruses like Spanish Flu and
others. Like you also mentioned the Russians are at the cutting edge of
this field along with western countries and probably others like China.

Bob

5th September 2014, 04:15