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Cidersomerset
5th September 2014, 22:16
Myth , legend and history..........This has always fascinated me because a lot of
mainstream history especially medieval and before are based on church records,
monks , scribes and a few historical accounts usually written by the victor...

With the recent discovery of Richard 111's body under a Leicester shire car park,
and questions about King Arthur on a recent thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74566-Richplanet-TV-King-Arthur-Pro-Animus-Artorius&p=872747&highlight=King+Arthur#post872747

If these relatively recent events can be proven true rather than legend it opens
up the question of all the many other myths that probably have truths to them.
From Atlantis to the Secret space programme...LOL


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TV hunt for body of King Harold: Author's quest to prove Anglo Saxon monarch died 30
years after Battle of Hastings and is buried in Essex churchyard
Search is being carried out for remains at church in Waltham Abbey, Essex
Project is chartered by Oval Films - who helped find Richard III's remains
Will follow author Peter Burke in proving theory he died 30 years later

By Andrew Levy For Daily Mail

Published: 00:51, 5 September 2014 | Updated: 12:45, 5 September 2014

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A search for the remains of King Harold is due to be carried out at a church in Waltham
Abbey in Essex. Tradition has it his body was cut to bits after he was killed by an arrow
in the eye at the Battle of Hastings.But nearly 1,000 years on, a search is being carried
out for the remains of King Harold at a church in Waltham Abbey, Essex. The project
will be charted by Oval Films, which also helped to find Richard III’s remains in a car
park in Leicester.

It will follow amateur historian Peter Burke, who has written two historical novels on the
times of Harold, and claims the king was wounded but survived.He believes he died 30
years later and was buried near the east wall of the former abbey that dates to the late
11th century.A stone monument to the king stands in the grounds, although not where
the search is taking place.

Mr Burke, a stonemason who has spent years researching his theory at the British
Museum and British Library, is sponsoring a £2,000 search of the site using ground
penetrating radar. A film crew are recording the work.

He said: ‘I am convinced Harold survived the Battle of Hastings.

‘If we find the complete remains of an old man in his late 70s with scarring to his
temple from a battle wound then we need to do a DNA test.’

David Hatton, of Oval Films, added: ‘We are very excited by the whole concept that
there is another, even more plausible, story to the life and times of King Harold.

‘If we find what we are hoping then this could change history.’

Anglo-Saxon rule over England ended in 1066 when the Norman invaders arrived, led
by William the Conqueror.But some believe Harold fled England or lived out his life as a
hermit at Chester or Canterbury.There have also been a variety of claims about his
resting place, including at Bosham Church in West Sussex.

The search in Essex was due to begin on Tuesday but has been delayed for a fortnight
while the team wait for a licence to be issued by English Heritage.Historians remains
sceptical about the chances of finding Harold’s remains, however, with one describing
them as ‘extremely minute’.

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The search at Waltham Abbey Church in Essex was due to begin on Tuesday but has
been delayed a fortnight.Chris Sumner, chairman of Waltham Abbey Historical Society,
said: ‘The site that they will searching for the remains has been disturbed so many
times by building works that it will prove very unlikely that the remains will be located.’

The remains of Richard III were discovered under a car park in Leicester last year.

Earlier this year archaeologists excavating from the grounds of Hyde Abbey in
Winchester found a piece of a pelvis that could belong to Alfred the Great or his son,
Edward the Elder.


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Fact or Fiction E03 King Harold ....Narrated by Tony Robinson...

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Time Team S20 Special - 1066 The Lost Battlefield

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Published on 12 Dec 2013

Tony Robinson gives the history books one in the eye by discovering where the
Battle of Hastings was really fought. The battle is the most famous in English
history but not a single bit of archaeological evidence for it has ever been found.
Have historians put the battlefield in the wrong place?

Time Team set themselves the task of uncovering the true location of England's
most famous defeat.

For decades there has been dispute over the site, even though Battle Abbey is
supposed to stand exactly where Harold fell. In 2012 a bestseller claimed that
Caldbec Hill, a mile away, was the real site. But most historians still believe the
main focus of the fighting was in the fields below the Abbey.

Time Team excavate both sites to seek evidence of either one being a battlefield.

Digging alone is inconclusive. But a cutting edge aerial technology called LIDAR to
map the terrain proves that the traditional battlefield would have been too boggy
for William's Norman cavalry.

So military analysts study the data to see where Harold, a skilled commander,
would most likely have mounted his defence against William's invading army.

They identify the only ideal battlefield. It seems Harold's fearsome Saxon shield
wall straddled a narrow strategic pass that is on today's A2100.

It leads to a surprising conclusion about where the heart of the battle was fought,
and why William won and Harold lost.

Cidersomerset
5th September 2014, 22:53
Fact or Fiction E04 Robin Hood

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ROBIN HOOD's True Story

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Published on 3 Dec 2013


ROBIN HOOD's True Story

Cidersomerset
5th September 2014, 23:53
Fact or Fiction E01 Braveheart

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Published on 5 Nov 2013
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Braveheart William Wallace - Documentary

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Published on 28 Jul 2014


William Wallace is one of Scotland's greatest national heroes, undisputed leader of
the Scottish resistance forces during the first years of the long and ultimately
successful struggle to free Scotland from English rule at the end of the 13th
Century.

Cidersomerset
6th September 2014, 22:19
Richard III - The Scientific Outcome

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Published on 6 Feb 2013


http://www.le.ac.uk/richardiii - Richard III Educational Resources

On the 4th February 2013 the University of Leicester announced it
had discovered the remains of King Richard III. During this live
recording the researchers put forward the evidence and present
their conclusions.

This film was shot and edited by Carl Vivian and Hayley Evans of
Multimedia Services at the University of Leicester.

Cidersomerset
8th September 2014, 15:56
In Search Of Myths and Heroes - King Arthur

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Uploaded on 23 Jun 2011


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History of Britain Suppressed Part 7 = King Arthur - The Proof


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Published on 2 Apr 2013


Richard D Hall has extensively covered the work of Wilson and Blackett who have
found undeniable evidence of King Arthur and his place of burial. A number of
experts now agree King Arthur lived in the 6th century and his resting place is in
Wales.

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Richplanet TV - March 2014 Show - Hidden Welsh Archaeology

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Published on 5 Mar 2014


Please visit Richard D Hall's website RICHPLANET.NET http://www.richplanet.net/starship.php to see all his past shows, and so much
more, covering all types of alternate issues that the mainstream refuses to
acknowledge.

Anthony Williams has been researching the archaeology of Garndiffaith and
surrounding areas since the 1980's. His friend Dennis Nash was working on a
building site as a labourer in Garndiffaith in 1968. Whilst digging the foundations
for new council housing, Denis and his workmates uncovered a huge lead slab
buried several feet under the ground. The slab was positioned over the apex of a
uniform stone structure which resembled an ancient pyramid. Until now this
incredible story has been kept from public view. In this programme Dennis and
Anthony examine maps of the local area looking for clues to the ancient
archaeology of this mysterious site. Anthony is seeking permission to have the area
excavated in an attempt to discover what could be records of some of the oldest
known civilisations in Britain.

Mare
8th September 2014, 16:21
Thanks Cidersomerset, I'll try and view this later. I've been to Tintagel myself and remember a piece of slate being discovered there by English Heritage marked 'Artognov' in 1998. Very interesting indeed!

http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/articles/artstone.html

Cidersomerset
8th September 2014, 19:44
Michael Wood - In search of Beowulf

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Published on 11 Oct 2012

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History of Britain The Anglo Saxon Invasion BBC Documentary

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Historian Michael Wood returns to his first great love, the Anglo-Saxon world,
to reveal the origins of our literary heritage. Focusing on Beowulf and drawing
on other Anglo-Saxon classics, he traces the birth of English poetry back to the Dark Ages.

Cidersomerset
9th September 2014, 11:34
King Alfred the Somerset levels and a birth of a nation......

3rd February 2014 22:41

I started this thread a couple of hours ago after watching episode 3 of the BBC
history of king Alfred and the beginings of modern England. This was about
Aethelstan the first overlord King of Britain and was interesting in looking at how
Britain developed from the pieces we know coming out of the Dark ages mainly in
England and the many ways events could of changed. This led me to parallel in the
weather now with the heavy flooding and Alfreds time when he fought a guarilla
war against Guthrum and the Danes.I cannot find the Aethelstan vid, but started a
thread anyway for those interested in their Anglo Saxon roots across the world.

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Somerset and the Vale of Avalon has played an historic and enchanted part in the
history and upheavals of Romano Britain & Anglo Saxon England. BBC Three have
been showing a history of Alfred the Great and tonights third episode was about
Aethelstan the first king of Britain. Earlier Arthur the legendry leader of the
Romano/Britains fought against the encroaching European invader/settlers chiefly
Saxon,Dutes, Angles , Friesians and others who eventually forged Angleland before
Harold another son of Wessex lost to the Norman Duke William and a start of
another 1000 years of Royal misfits some good, some bad most indifferent to the
people they claimed to rule. Infact the last pitched battle fought on English soil
was at Sedgmoor in 1685. The Pitchfork rebellion when many sons of somerset
were sold into slavery by the infamous Judge Jeffries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedgemoor


The levels were drained by Dutch experts in the 16th century and has developed into
lush Dairy farmland thru a system of drainage ditches, and although winter flooding
is common the last two years have been more severe than usual and has turned the
landscape back to something like Alfreds time. Infact where my house is in the centre of
Bridgwater would have been flooded if the defences in the town were not improved in
the 1980's.

The Levels flooded 2014
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Somerset levels from glastonbury tor
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UK floods: January rain breaks records in parts of England

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King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons Alfred of Wessex EP1 BBC Documentary 2013 guerrilla war



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Published on 6 Aug 2013


King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons Alfred of Wessex BBC Documentary 2013
King Alfred the Great fights a desperate guerrilla war in the marshes of Somerset -
burning the cakes on the way- before his decisive victory at Edington. Creating towns,
trade and coinage, reviving learning and literacy, Alfred then laid the foundations of a
single kingdom of 'all the English'. Filmed on location from Reading to Rome, using
original texts read in Old English, and interviews with leading scholars, Michael Wood
describes a man who was 'not just the greatest Briton, but one of the greatest rulers of
any time or place'.


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King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons EP 2 The Lady of the Mercians BBC documentary 2013

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Published on 13 Aug 2013


In this second episode, Alfred's children continue the family plan to create a kingdom of all the English.

Michael Wood recovers the story of Alfred's daughter Aethelflaed, the ruler of Mercia,
from a copy of a lost chronicle written in Mercia in her lifetime which in the film we hear
read in Old English. One of the great forgotten figures in British history, Aethelflaed led
armies, built fortresses, campaigned against the Vikings and was a brilliant diplomat.
Her fame spread across the British Isles, beloved by her warriors and her people, she
was known simply as 'the Lady of the Mercians'. Without her, concludes Michael
Wood, 'England might never have happened'.


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King Arthur Avalon

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Many other regions from Cornwall, wales and even France have claimed links to
the Legendry Hero....

Read more....

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